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May 14, 2025 68 mins

Featuring: Rohadi Nagassar, Janice Lagata, LetGregLive, Kristian A. Smith

The term: Deconstruction defined in Rohadi’s book, When We Belong, is: the work to reclaim what gives life; discard what does not; and create beautiful stories. Welcome to Episode 8 where we venture through the land of religious deconstruction, only this time through the Black and brown church experiences.

In this episode we hear from Janice Lagata who shares her story about the eventual implosion of Hillsong New York. Followed by Greg, who provides some insight on the work of deconstruction and decolonization out of a Black church experience. Lastly, Kristian A Smith and Rohadi talk about what faith can look like beyond the gaze of white hegemony. All this and more in Episode 8.

Episode 8 Show Notes

(00:00-04:00) Introduction with Rohadi (04:24) Janice Lagata (09:00) Broaching the Death of Hillsong New York (26:00) Interrogating the deconstruction space on socials. (29:40) Intro to Greg (31:00) Greg intro (34:00) Black Deconstruction (39:20) Christian supremacy (44:00) Intro Kristian A Smith (45:00) A different take on deconstruction. (53:20) The weird in Black and brown church traditions. (57:00) Reclamation project. Where to find life. (1:02:00) on decolonizing

Featuring your host, Rohadi (from Rohadi.com)

Rohadi’s books can be found here, including his latest publication, When We Belong. Reclaiming Christianity on the Margins. Visit his online church community: https://abeautifultable.ca/

Janice Lagata – Musician and Podcaster Find more from Janice on her website. Stream her latest album “Toxic Empathy” on Spotify or AppleMusic.

Greg – Muscian and Teacher Educator. Baritenor. Musical Theatre Enthusiast. Sinfonian. B.M.Ed, M.S., Ed.S.

Kristian A Smith – Pastor and Podcaster Find him on Instagram. Community Builder; Founder & Pastor @tfc.virtual; Host @holysmokesmovement; Curator of Greatest Commandment Theology. Find him over at kristianasmith.com

Bumper music by Janice Lagata; Intro by Jesse Peters

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