July 13, 2025 • 24 mins
The world we live in today is fracturing along lines of race, culture, religion, and identity—a reality that stands in stark contrast to the America many immigrants envision when arriving on these shores. This raw, heartfelt episode explores one woman's journey from Guyana to the United States and the discrimination she faced from both white and Black communities as she struggled to find belonging.
What does it mean to live in "the greatest country on earth" when that country continuously fails to embrace its rich diversity? Through personal stories and challenging questions, this episode cuts to the heart of America's ongoing struggle with acceptance and belonging. From the painful experience of being told to "go back to your country" to the uncomfortable reality of being rendered invisible in professional settings, we confront the everyday prejudice that undermines our collective humanity.
Beyond simply identifying problems, this conversation offers a path forward grounded in love and mutual respect. We challenge listeners to check their own biases, speak up against discrimination, and embrace differences rather than fearing them. The message is clear—we cannot claim to embody faith while rejecting those who differ from us. True greatness, both personal and national, comes through acceptance and celebration of our beautiful diversity. As Martin Luther King Jr. fought not just for Black rights but for human rights that would benefit everyone, we too must stand for unity rather than division. Ready to be the change you want to see in the world? This episode will inspire you to start today.
Ready to break down barriers in your own life and community? Share this episode with someone who needs to hear this message, and join us next week as we continue redefining what it means to be a Christian woman living authentically in today's world.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to Faith Unmuted.
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how they feel.
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Speaker 2 (00:33):
So I was born in Guyana, south America, and I
came over here as a child.
My parents immigrated over hereand you know, because of course
America is this great place, aplace of freedom and equal
opportunity and just so manywonderful things and so my
(00:56):
parents came.
My father is in ministry andthe church brought him over.
My mother was an entrepreneurand she came over here and
started her early childhoodcenters and of course I followed
in her footsteps with that Um,and life was good and then it
wasn't.
I remember just going to schooland the white kids didn't like
(01:27):
me because I was black and theblack kids sometimes didn't care
for me because I didn't soundlike how they sound right,
because my English was totallydifferent and in my home my
parents never taught us aboutprejudice or the difference.
I mean one of the reasons wecame to America.
(01:48):
You know, america is a diversecountry.
It's got everybody that's here,it's great, it's all of these
different things.
And yet in some ways, way backthen, I did not experience that
as a matter of fact, Iexperienced a lot of prejudice.
As a matter of fact, Iexperienced a lot of prejudice.
Moving forward to where we areright now, that prejudice is
(02:13):
still there.
Y'all, here we are.
We live in a country thatpeople are coming in from all
over the world and they come toAmerica for better opportunities
and they do well in America forthe most part, but the America
that we're living in right nowis not the America that people
(02:33):
are expecting it to be.
As a matter of fact, when Ithink about it, there are so
many other countries where thediversity and the acceptance for
who you are is so much betterthan right here in the United
States of America, which is thegreatest country on earth.
That's what we all say, and thisisn't a political conversation,
trust me.
This is really, I want to say,a morality conversation.
(02:57):
It has everything to do withyour morals.
Who are you?
The bottom line is is that weshould be able to accept people
for who they are, despite theirrace, their culture, their
sexual orientation, theirreligion, anything, anything.
(03:28):
Because God doesn't say oh,there's a black, there's a black
.
If you believe in heaven orhell, there's a black.
Heaven, there's a white.
Oh, there's the Hispanic one,you know, there's the Asian one.
There's none of those.
Why is it that we can't livetogether and accept people for
who they are and who they chooseto be.
See, I'm not God, so I don'thave a heaven or hell to put you
in, so I just accept you forwho you are.
(03:50):
And here we are.
We're living in a place to now.
If you don't believe like Ibelieve, if you don't look like
I look, then you're not worthy.
Then you're not worthy.
(04:10):
Go back to where you come from,when the bottom line is in
America.
All of us came from somewhere.
The only people that's reallyfrom America are the Native
Americans, and even they'rediscriminated against In America
, in their own land.
How do we stop this madness,y'all?
(04:30):
How do we stop it?
I am so tired to the point towhere, if I see there's any
level of prejudice, any level ofdiscrimination, I don't really
want to have anything to do withyou.
Like I don't even want to sitand have a meal with you,
(04:53):
because that's not who I am.
I have fought against prejudiceever since I came to the United
States of America and therewere times I've kept my mouth
shut when I should have spokenup, but I didn't know how to
Long gone are those days.
I know how to speak up now.
(05:14):
I heard someone say that and Ithought how disrespectful,
because you don't evenunderstand.
I heard someone say that oh,february is Black History Month.
Why do they get a month?
Why white people don't get ahistory month?
Well, that's because everymonth, every month, black
history isn't taught in theschools.
(05:35):
Not like that, but history is,and the history that's taught in
the schools, believe it or not,it's really white history.
It's not Latino history.
It's not Latino history.
It's not black history, it'snot any, because many times we
leave out all of the othercultures that really build this
country up to where it is now.
It wasn't just white people, itwasn't just black people, it
(05:55):
wasn't just Latinos, it was, itwas everybody coming and
building the country up.
Listen, listen, y'all Slavesbuilt up this country and yet we
struggle to live in a communitythat has everybody.
When everybody's the same in acommunity, that's not a good
(06:16):
community.
A community needs diversity,because we learn from each other
, we can appreciate each other.
Can you learn from me and can Ilearn from you?
We should be coming together asa people to fight against
(06:41):
what's wrong in this world, butwe're not doing that.
What we are doing is a lot ofdiscrimination, and it's
happening everywhere.
It's in the schools, it's inour communities, it's in our
churches, it's in our synagogue,it's everywhere, and it
shouldn't be.
Whatever happened to love,whatever happened to love,
(07:06):
whatever happened to love thyneighbor as you love yourself.
You know what I've concluded?
That many of us, we don't loveourselves.
That's why we struggle withloving our neighbor.
That's why we struggle withloving people who don't look
like us.
That's why we're saying go backto your country.
Well, if everybody in Americawent back to their country, the
(07:29):
only people that will be hereare the Native Americans.
Those are only people.
So, everybody now go back andfind out where your heritage is,
find out where your ancestorscame from, and go back to your
country.
Can we live together?
Can we accept each other?
(07:50):
America, if I'm not mistaking,when it was built, and our
forefathers, as you know, they,they speak, and they, they
brought the constitution.
The constitution was foreveryone.
The constitution wasn't for onegroup of people, it's for
(08:11):
everyone.
People say Black History Month.
No, black History should beevery month.
And why do we have BlackHistory Month?
So we could recognize.
That's why, that's why there'sthe Latino Heritage Day,
hispanic Heritage Day, andthat's why the Asians have to
know why, because everybody hasthe need to be represented and
feel worthy and to feel as ifthey belong.
(08:33):
And since we don't celebrate itevery day, every month of the
year, then we have to have thosespecific times, just like our
birthday.
We celebrate our birthday oneday a year.
Well, I celebrate mine allmonth, in April.
All right, all month.
But we don't celebrate theother cultures.
And that's why we've got thisparticular day or this
(08:58):
particular month, because,honestly, we don't know all of
the African Americans that'scontributed to the investment of
(09:19):
America war and served in themilitary to build this country
up so we could all be free andlive a life of joy and peace and
opportunity.
That's really what this countryis about.
We shouldn't I shouldn't beconcerned about my black son
(09:40):
driving while being black so hegets stopped Right, or my Latino
friend that just got stoppedand assumed that they weren't a
citizen of the United States andhad to show their passport.
What's wrong with that?
(10:01):
What's wrong with us?
That there's crimes againstAsian Americans?
It shouldn't be happening.
There's crimes against theLGBTQ community.
Shouldn't be happening, becausewe are all people, we're all
human beings and, by the way,when Jesus came, he came for
every last one of us.
That's what I believe, and heloves all of us.
(10:24):
He loves us.
So in the words of is it Rodney?
I can't remember his name.
Can't we all just get along?
Can we live together?
If you say that you're aChristian and you've got the
love of God, then show your loveto all people, not just to some
people.
See, I don't have to agree withyou to love you.
(10:49):
I could love you despite,because I am created for love.
I'm created to love.
I was created from love, so Ihave no other choice but to love
, to love.
(11:11):
And what's happening now in ourcommunities and in our country,
in our cities, is that it'slacking love.
It's lacking love and it's sosad that when we're looking at
(11:32):
leadership, that even leadershipisn't showing love.
Even leadership isn't showinghumanity, but what it's showing
is discrimination, lack ofacceptance.
Shouldn't be this way at all.
It's separating everyone.
(11:53):
Long gone are those days, orthey should be gone, but they're
not.
Martin Luther King fought for somuch, and when he fought, he
just didn't fight for blackpeople, he fought for white
people, he fought for Asians, hefought for East Asians, he
fought for everyone Latinos, hefought for everyone.
(12:16):
And what are we doing now.
If you don't agree with me,then you're not like me, you got
to go.
If you don't agree with me,then you're not like me, you got
(12:38):
to go.
If you don't love like me,you're not like me, you got to
go.
You have no place.
It's wrong.
Suppose God said that to us.
Suppose God actually said youknow what I don't like, what
you're doing, I don't like this,I don't like that, I don't like
that.
So let me, let me just removeyou.
Suppose he did that, oh my God,that all of us would be removed
(12:59):
, every last one of us, becausewe all have our isms and our
schisms and so many things.
But I got to tell you you, it'sso disturbing for me to see the
(13:21):
discrimination that's going on.
It hurts my heart and whatreally bothers me is that our
young children.
They're growing up in a worldright now that's filled with a
lot of hate, and what's sad isthat the hate is accepted as if
it's normal.
People say they.
You know, hate is such a strongword.
Use it, because that's what'shappening right now, and it's
(13:45):
happening from the top.
So what is it that we do aboutit?
Can we start with ourself, likefor me?
Can I start with me and beginto really do some inward
cleaning up?
And I know and I believe thatthere is a level of prejudice in
all of us.
There is just a little.
(14:07):
And so when I say that, I sayto me like I may not like that,
I mean you know, or like youknow we may do a stereotype, not
knowing that's what we're doing.
So begin to check yourself withthis.
Bottom line is all black peopledon't like fried chicken or
watermelon.
All Asian people don't eat rice.
(14:28):
All Mexicans don't like taco.
I know some that don't eat rice.
All Mexicans don't like taco, Iknow some that don't.
Can we be so open-minded that wesee the person for who they are
and we love them anyway?
And even if we'd say I don'treally care, I don't believe it,
but can we love them despite ofor in spite of of or in spite
(15:01):
of?
God said, out of everything,the greatest of these is love.
And if I could just love myfellow human being, if I could
love you enough to work togetherwith you, if I could love you
enough to say you know, I don'treally agree with you in this,
but we could still love on eachother, we could still go out to
(15:21):
dinner together, we could stilllaugh and talk.
See, what happens is that we'rea nation that still needs
healing and America, as a nation, needs to realize who we are
and to embrace that we are acountry.
We are a nation that needs tobe healed Before the womb
spreads more.
(15:41):
Right now, the hatred isspreading faster, I think, than
stage four cancer Boom, boom,boom, boom, boom.
It's taking people out, it'scausing people to live out of
alignment, and here it is.
When you choose to live inalignment, then you're
(16:02):
discriminated against.
If you choose to live inalignment with love, and peace
and embracing the other cultures, embracing the other people,
then all of a sudden you'rewrong.
Other cultures embracing theother people then all of a
sudden you're wrong.
You're wrong because you chooseto love, you choose to say this
(16:26):
is not right.
Then you're out of alignmentwith what they're saying and so
then you're the one you'recanceled.
When are we going to begin tospeak up and embrace the
beautiful world that God hascreated us, with everybody's
(16:47):
culture, the diversity?
I just personally believe thatwhen we could all come together
and embrace each other's culture, we are so much richer for that
.
When I can begin to understandyou.
I don't have to agree with you,but if I can begin to
understand you and understandwhere you come from and embrace
(17:08):
you, my life is that much morericher when I can begin to love
you.
It is that much more richerwhen I can begin to love you.
It's that much more richer whenyou can begin to love me and
say that your dark skin, yourlips and all of that is just
absolutely beautiful.
When I could see the beauty inyou and you could see the beauty
(17:30):
in me, then we could livetogether and we could work
together.
But we can't do it if we seeanother person as a lesser being
, if we see the other person asnot being worthy, we see that
(17:50):
woman that's not worthy.
We see her as the lesser.
We see that person as they haveto serve us.
They could only be this.
They don't reach up to myexpectations.
(18:12):
They don't have what I have.
They don't believe like Ibelieve.
I've been there to where I wastold I'm too black, too dark.
I talk funny.
(18:36):
You don't believe like Ibelieve you dance funny.
Oh my God.
(18:58):
Sometimes I've been in roomswith people that they forgot
that I was there.
They forgot that I was there, Iwas invisible to them, and they
would begin to talk aboutforeigners coming into the
country taking jobs.
They forgot that I was there.
(19:20):
I was invisible.
I remember one time inparticular.
I'm in a group these are allnow listen to what I'm saying.
These are all CEOs.
We're at a meeting.
They forgot that I was therebecause I was the only person of
color and so, while they didn'ttalk about the color issue
(19:42):
right they began to talk aboutthe immigrants, the foreigners,
as they called them, all theforeigners coming in.
But yet those foreigners weregood enough to clean your house,
work on your farms, help you toget to where you are, make sure
(20:05):
food the foreigners.
And they began sure food theforeigners.
And they began to talk aboutthe foreigners.
And I sat there quietly becauseI was invisible.
And finally, when they were alldone and everybody's laughing
yeah, da-da-da-da, we're doingall this I spoke up.
I spoke up and I said you guysknow that I'm from Guyana, south
(20:39):
America, and that my wholefamily, every last one of us,
are foreigners, and we came tothis country and we worked in
this country and build up thiscountry and, yes, this country
has been a blessing to us, butwe've also been a blessing to
the country.
And you could have heard a pindrop.
It got quiet.
(21:01):
Don't try to backpedal now,because what I saw, what was
really in your heart and whatyou felt about me, and the only
reason you didn't bring in therace is because at least you
could look and see my race, butI was invisible.
See, if you were alwayslistening to me and you were
always like on my side, we weretogether you would have already
known I was a foreigner.
You would have known thatbecause it wasn't like I kept it
a secret.
(21:23):
Stand up for who you are secret,stand up for who you are.
Know that, wherever you're from, that you are worthy and you
belong in this country.
You belong here because that'swhy you're here.
Embrace diversity, embrace thedifference.
Don't discriminate againstanyone, because remember that
(21:46):
someone could discriminateagainst you.
You're not above everyone.
No, we're all human beingsworking together for change.
Let's embrace each other, let'slove.
Let's really stand up for what'sgoing on in this country right
now and let's make a difference.
Be the change you want to see.
(22:07):
We always say that.
Mahatma Gandhi said it.
So let's actually do that.
Whatever change you want to seehappen in this country, then
you be that change.
Start speaking up against thediscriminatory acts that's going
on.
Don't agree with someonebecause you're afraid.
Speak up, speak up, use yourvoice, stand up for what's right
.
Stand up for what's right inthis country and don't use, by
(22:40):
the way, your religion, yourbelief system, as a tool to
discriminate, to say others arewrong.
Don't use that.
Don't.
Don't even use your race, don'tuse your sexual orientation,
don't use any of that todiscriminate against someone
else.
Let's come together as humanityto build a better world, not
just for us, but for ourchildren and their children and
(23:00):
their children for generationsto come.
This is America.
This is a land of opportunity.
This is a land of diversity.
Let's work together.
Let's live together.
Yeah, love you guys.
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You are listening to Faith Unmuted.
The place where Christian womenget the opportunity to press
the button and say what theywant, how they want and exactly
how they feel.
The one place where, together,we can collectively walk through
our truths, liveunapologetically and stop hiding
.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
So I was born in Guyana, south America, and I
came over here as a child.
My parents immigrated over hereand you know, because of course
America is this great place, aplace of freedom and equal
opportunity and just so manywonderful things and so my
(00:56):
parents came.
My father is in ministry andthe church brought him over.
My mother was an entrepreneurand she came over here and
started her early childhoodcenters and of course I followed
in her footsteps with that Um,and life was good and then it
wasn't.
I remember just going to schooland the white kids didn't like
(01:27):
me because I was black and theblack kids sometimes didn't care
for me because I didn't soundlike how they sound right,
because my English was totallydifferent and in my home my
parents never taught us aboutprejudice or the difference.
I mean one of the reasons wecame to America.
(01:48):
You know, america is a diversecountry.
It's got everybody that's here,it's great, it's all of these
different things.
And yet in some ways, way backthen, I did not experience that
as a matter of fact, Iexperienced a lot of prejudice.
As a matter of fact, Iexperienced a lot of prejudice.
Moving forward to where we areright now, that prejudice is
(02:13):
still there.
Y'all, here we are.
We live in a country thatpeople are coming in from all
over the world and they come toAmerica for better opportunities
and they do well in America forthe most part, but the America
that we're living in right nowis not the America that people
(02:33):
are expecting it to be.
As a matter of fact, when Ithink about it, there are so
many other countries where thediversity and the acceptance for
who you are is so much betterthan right here in the United
States of America, which is thegreatest country on earth.
That's what we all say, and thisisn't a political conversation,
trust me.
This is really, I want to say,a morality conversation.
(02:57):
It has everything to do withyour morals.
Who are you?
The bottom line is is that weshould be able to accept people
for who they are, despite theirrace, their culture, their
sexual orientation, theirreligion, anything, anything.
(03:28):
Because God doesn't say oh,there's a black, there's a black
.
If you believe in heaven orhell, there's a black.
Heaven, there's a white.
Oh, there's the Hispanic one,you know, there's the Asian one.
There's none of those.
Why is it that we can't livetogether and accept people for
who they are and who they chooseto be.
See, I'm not God, so I don'thave a heaven or hell to put you
in, so I just accept you forwho you are.
(03:50):
And here we are.
We're living in a place to now.
If you don't believe like Ibelieve, if you don't look like
I look, then you're not worthy.
Then you're not worthy.
(04:10):
Go back to where you come from,when the bottom line is in
America.
All of us came from somewhere.
The only people that's reallyfrom America are the Native
Americans, and even they'rediscriminated against In America
, in their own land.
How do we stop this madness,y'all?
(04:30):
How do we stop it?
I am so tired to the point towhere, if I see there's any
level of prejudice, any level ofdiscrimination, I don't really
want to have anything to do withyou.
Like I don't even want to sitand have a meal with you,
(04:53):
because that's not who I am.
I have fought against prejudiceever since I came to the United
States of America and therewere times I've kept my mouth
shut when I should have spokenup, but I didn't know how to
Long gone are those days.
I know how to speak up now.
(05:14):
I heard someone say that and Ithought how disrespectful,
because you don't evenunderstand.
I heard someone say that oh,february is Black History Month.
Why do they get a month?
Why white people don't get ahistory month?
Well, that's because everymonth, every month, black
history isn't taught in theschools.
(05:35):
Not like that, but history is,and the history that's taught in
the schools, believe it or not,it's really white history.
It's not Latino history.
It's not Latino history.
It's not black history, it'snot any, because many times we
leave out all of the othercultures that really build this
country up to where it is now.
It wasn't just white people, itwasn't just black people, it
(05:55):
wasn't just Latinos, it was, itwas everybody coming and
building the country up.
Listen, listen, y'all Slavesbuilt up this country and yet we
struggle to live in a communitythat has everybody.
When everybody's the same in acommunity, that's not a good
(06:16):
community.
A community needs diversity,because we learn from each other
, we can appreciate each other.
Can you learn from me and can Ilearn from you?
We should be coming together asa people to fight against
(06:41):
what's wrong in this world, butwe're not doing that.
What we are doing is a lot ofdiscrimination, and it's
happening everywhere.
It's in the schools, it's inour communities, it's in our
churches, it's in our synagogue,it's everywhere, and it
shouldn't be.
Whatever happened to love,whatever happened to love,
(07:06):
whatever happened to love thyneighbor as you love yourself.
You know what I've concluded?
That many of us, we don't loveourselves.
That's why we struggle withloving our neighbor.
That's why we struggle withloving people who don't look
like us.
That's why we're saying go backto your country.
Well, if everybody in Americawent back to their country, the
(07:29):
only people that will be hereare the Native Americans.
Those are only people.
So, everybody now go back andfind out where your heritage is,
find out where your ancestorscame from, and go back to your
country.
Can we live together?
Can we accept each other?
(07:50):
America, if I'm not mistaking,when it was built, and our
forefathers, as you know, they,they speak, and they, they
brought the constitution.
The constitution was foreveryone.
The constitution wasn't for onegroup of people, it's for
(08:11):
everyone.
People say Black History Month.
No, black History should beevery month.
And why do we have BlackHistory Month?
So we could recognize.
That's why, that's why there'sthe Latino Heritage Day,
hispanic Heritage Day, andthat's why the Asians have to
know why, because everybody hasthe need to be represented and
feel worthy and to feel as ifthey belong.
(08:33):
And since we don't celebrate itevery day, every month of the
year, then we have to have thosespecific times, just like our
birthday.
We celebrate our birthday oneday a year.
Well, I celebrate mine allmonth, in April.
All right, all month.
But we don't celebrate theother cultures.
And that's why we've got thisparticular day or this
(08:58):
particular month, because,honestly, we don't know all of
the African Americans that'scontributed to the investment of
(09:19):
America war and served in themilitary to build this country
up so we could all be free andlive a life of joy and peace and
opportunity.
That's really what this countryis about.
We shouldn't I shouldn't beconcerned about my black son
(09:40):
driving while being black so hegets stopped Right, or my Latino
friend that just got stoppedand assumed that they weren't a
citizen of the United States andhad to show their passport.
What's wrong with that?
(10:01):
What's wrong with us?
That there's crimes againstAsian Americans?
It shouldn't be happening.
There's crimes against theLGBTQ community.
Shouldn't be happening, becausewe are all people, we're all
human beings and, by the way,when Jesus came, he came for
every last one of us.
That's what I believe, and heloves all of us.
(10:24):
He loves us.
So in the words of is it Rodney?
I can't remember his name.
Can't we all just get along?
Can we live together?
If you say that you're aChristian and you've got the
love of God, then show your loveto all people, not just to some
people.
See, I don't have to agree withyou to love you.
(10:49):
I could love you despite,because I am created for love.
I'm created to love.
I was created from love, so Ihave no other choice but to love
, to love.
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And what's happening now in ourcommunities and in our country,
in our cities, is that it'slacking love.
It's lacking love and it's sosad that when we're looking at
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leadership, that even leadershipisn't showing love.
Even leadership isn't showinghumanity, but what it's showing
is discrimination, lack ofacceptance.
Shouldn't be this way at all.
It's separating everyone.
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Long gone are those days, orthey should be gone, but they're
not.
Martin Luther King fought for somuch, and when he fought, he
just didn't fight for blackpeople, he fought for white
people, he fought for Asians, hefought for East Asians, he
fought for everyone Latinos, hefought for everyone.
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And what are we doing now.
If you don't agree with me,then you're not like me, you got
to go.
If you don't agree with me,then you're not like me, you got
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to go.
If you don't love like me,you're not like me, you got to
go.
You have no place.
It's wrong.
Suppose God said that to us.
Suppose God actually said youknow what I don't like, what
you're doing, I don't like this,I don't like that, I don't like
that.
So let me, let me just removeyou.
Suppose he did that, oh my God,that all of us would be removed
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, every last one of us, becausewe all have our isms and our
schisms and so many things.
But I got to tell you you, it'sso disturbing for me to see the
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discrimination that's going on.
It hurts my heart and whatreally bothers me is that our
young children.
They're growing up in a worldright now that's filled with a
lot of hate, and what's sad isthat the hate is accepted as if
it's normal.
People say they.
You know, hate is such a strongword.
Use it, because that's what'shappening right now, and it's
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happening from the top.
So what is it that we do aboutit?
Can we start with ourself, likefor me?
Can I start with me and beginto really do some inward
cleaning up?
And I know and I believe thatthere is a level of prejudice in
all of us.
There is just a little.
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And so when I say that, I sayto me like I may not like that,
I mean you know, or like youknow we may do a stereotype, not
knowing that's what we're doing.
So begin to check yourself withthis.
Bottom line is all black peopledon't like fried chicken or
watermelon.
All Asian people don't eat rice.
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All Mexicans don't like taco.
I know some that don't eat rice.
All Mexicans don't like taco, Iknow some that don't.
Can we be so open-minded that wesee the person for who they are
and we love them anyway?
And even if we'd say I don'treally care, I don't believe it,
but can we love them despite ofor in spite of of or in spite
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of?
God said, out of everything,the greatest of these is love.
And if I could just love myfellow human being, if I could
love you enough to work togetherwith you, if I could love you
enough to say you know, I don'treally agree with you in this,
but we could still love on eachother, we could still go out to
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dinner together, we could stilllaugh and talk.
See, what happens is that we'rea nation that still needs
healing and America, as a nation, needs to realize who we are
and to embrace that we are acountry.
We are a nation that needs tobe healed Before the womb
spreads more.
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Right now, the hatred isspreading faster, I think, than
stage four cancer Boom, boom,boom, boom, boom.
It's taking people out, it'scausing people to live out of
alignment, and here it is.
When you choose to live inalignment, then you're
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discriminated against.
If you choose to live inalignment with love, and peace
and embracing the other cultures, embracing the other people,
then all of a sudden you'rewrong.
Other cultures embracing theother people then all of a
sudden you're wrong.
You're wrong because you chooseto love, you choose to say this
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is not right.
Then you're out of alignmentwith what they're saying and so
then you're the one you'recanceled.
When are we going to begin tospeak up and embrace the
beautiful world that God hascreated us, with everybody's
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culture, the diversity?
I just personally believe thatwhen we could all come together
and embrace each other's culture, we are so much richer for that
.
When I can begin to understandyou.
I don't have to agree with you,but if I can begin to
understand you and understandwhere you come from and embrace
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you, my life is that much morericher when I can begin to love
you.
It is that much more richerwhen I can begin to love you.
It's that much more richer whenyou can begin to love me and
say that your dark skin, yourlips and all of that is just
absolutely beautiful.
When I could see the beauty inyou and you could see the beauty
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in me, then we could livetogether and we could work
together.
But we can't do it if we seeanother person as a lesser being
, if we see the other person asnot being worthy, we see that
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woman that's not worthy.
We see her as the lesser.
We see that person as they haveto serve us.
They could only be this.
They don't reach up to myexpectations.
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They don't have what I have.
They don't believe like Ibelieve.
I've been there to where I wastold I'm too black, too dark.
I talk funny.
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You don't believe like Ibelieve you dance funny.
Oh my God.
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Sometimes I've been in roomswith people that they forgot
that I was there.
They forgot that I was there, Iwas invisible to them, and they
would begin to talk aboutforeigners coming into the
country taking jobs.
They forgot that I was there.
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I was invisible.
I remember one time inparticular.
I'm in a group these are allnow listen to what I'm saying.
These are all CEOs.
We're at a meeting.
They forgot that I was therebecause I was the only person of
color and so, while they didn'ttalk about the color issue
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right they began to talk aboutthe immigrants, the foreigners,
as they called them, all theforeigners coming in.
But yet those foreigners weregood enough to clean your house,
work on your farms, help you toget to where you are, make sure
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food the foreigners.
And they began sure food theforeigners.
And they began to talk aboutthe foreigners.
And I sat there quietly becauseI was invisible.
And finally, when they were alldone and everybody's laughing
yeah, da-da-da-da, we're doingall this I spoke up.
I spoke up and I said you guysknow that I'm from Guyana, south
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America, and that my wholefamily, every last one of us,
are foreigners, and we came tothis country and we worked in
this country and build up thiscountry and, yes, this country
has been a blessing to us, butwe've also been a blessing to
the country.
And you could have heard a pindrop.
It got quiet.
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Don't try to backpedal now,because what I saw, what was
really in your heart and whatyou felt about me, and the only
reason you didn't bring in therace is because at least you
could look and see my race, butI was invisible.
See, if you were alwayslistening to me and you were
always like on my side, we weretogether you would have already
known I was a foreigner.
You would have known thatbecause it wasn't like I kept it
a secret.
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Stand up for who you are secret,stand up for who you are.
Know that, wherever you're from, that you are worthy and you
belong in this country.
You belong here because that'swhy you're here.
Embrace diversity, embrace thedifference.
Don't discriminate againstanyone, because remember that
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someone could discriminateagainst you.
You're not above everyone.
No, we're all human beingsworking together for change.
Let's embrace each other, let'slove.
Let's really stand up for what'sgoing on in this country right
now and let's make a difference.
Be the change you want to see.
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We always say that.
Mahatma Gandhi said it.
So let's actually do that.
Whatever change you want to seehappen in this country, then
you be that change.
Start speaking up against thediscriminatory acts that's going
on.
Don't agree with someonebecause you're afraid.
Speak up, speak up, use yourvoice, stand up for what's right
.
Stand up for what's right inthis country and don't use, by
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the way, your religion, yourbelief system, as a tool to
discriminate, to say others arewrong.
Don't use that.
Don't.
Don't even use your race, don'tuse your sexual orientation,
don't use any of that todiscriminate against someone
else.
Let's come together as humanityto build a better world, not
just for us, but for ourchildren and their children and
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their children for generationsto come.
This is America.
This is a land of opportunity.
This is a land of diversity.
Let's work together.
Let's live together.
Yeah, love you guys.
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faith unmuted has allowed usonce again to ask ourselves the
kind of questions that will helpus get to the next level and
live this life unapologetically.
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