The author Corrie Ten Boom wrote: "When a train goes through a tunnel and it gets dark, you don't throw away the ticket and jump off. You sit still and trust the engineer."
That perspective on faith sounds all well and good in theory, but what does it actually look like in practice? I never cease to find it deeply humbling to speak with people who are right in the middle of that darkness and yet their trust in God remains. Patricia is most definitely one such person and I know that you will find this episode both deeply moving and hugely inspiring.
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