July 30, 2025 • 43 mins
Why is it sometimes easier to be patient with strangers than with the people we love most? In this episode of Faithfully Invested, Allen and Stacy Jo Thorne dive deep into what it really means to love and serve your family like Jesus—with humility, grace, and intentionality.
Through personal stories (yes, even toilet paper emergencies!), biblical truth from Ephesians 5–6, and practical takeaways, they unpack how to break selfish cycles, heal generational wounds, and lead your home with a servant’s heart.
You’ll hear candid reflections on marriage, parenting, forgiveness, and the counter-cultural call to die to self—plus five practical ways to start living this out today. Whether your home is full of little ones, grown kids, or just you and your spouse, this conversation will challenge and encourage you to reflect Christ’s heart right where it matters most.
In this episode you’ll discover:
✅ Why mutual love and respect must start at home
✅ How to serve without expecting anything in return
✅ The role of humility, patience, and grace in family life
✅ How to flip the script on frustration and irritation
✅ The power of praying together and building surrendered hearts
If you’re ready to strengthen your marriage, deepen your family bonds, and leave a godly legacy, this is your roadmap.
📖 Key Scriptures: Ephesians 5:25, 5:33 • Ephesians 6:1–4 • Matthew 16:24 • John 13:14–15 • Philippians 2:3 • Galatians 6:9–10 • Proverbs 15:1 • Colossians 3:23
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Hey friends.
Welcome to Faithfully Invested,the podcast where we explore
God's blueprint for leadership,marriage, and mission, one
Kingdom Principle at a time.
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I am Allen And I'm Stacy Jo, andwe are glad you're here today as
we jump into our topic of lovingour family like Jesus.
Yeah, loving him.
Sounds a little cliche, but asChrist followers, that's.
Who we're called to be, and it'swho we need to be.
Today we're gonna chat about howoddly funny it is, uh, that we
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can serve strangers or nearstrangers all day long, and
that, that we get bent outtashape, uh, when the bathroom is
void of any toilet paperwhatsoever.
Really?
You're gonna bring that up.
Well, you know, so, geez.
It's kind of funny now, but itwas not so funny at the time.
So I got in there the other day.
I, I mean, this is like.
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Five in the morning.
I got in there in an emergencyfashion, if you know what I
mean.
And there was nothing, nothing.
I mean, I mean, seriously, am Ithe only one living here that
can put toilet paper in theroom?
Let's just say that I was notsinging the psalm.
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During my shuffle to the otherbathroom, oh my Lord.
Oh man.
Oh babe, what an example.
I hope when you put it on, youput it on the right way because
you know when you put it on theother way, it's not the way it's
supposed to be.
There's a time and the place fordebates here, I'm just saying
this is neither the time nor theplace be, but it goes to the
point.
So why is it so much easier tobe polite to people at church or
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at work?
Rather than Right to our spouse.
I mean, you didn't like go offthe handle about it at five
o'clock in the morning.
No.
Didn't So that wasn't bad thatyou were annoyed wasn't I wasn't
ha.
I was a little annoyed because,you know, head emergency anyway.
But you know, we haveexpectations.
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Yeah.
Gotta watch out for thoseexpectations of people.
And it's easier sometimes.
To when people we don't knowdrop the ball on expectations,
then it is when our familymembers drop the ball.
Right?
Yeah.
That's the point.
So let, let's jump into what itshould look like to serve our
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family like Jesus would.
Yeah, I bet Jesus would'veprobably put toilet paper on the
roll, but seriously, butseriously, there was no time for
that.
Moving on.
Yeah.
So bringing it back to JesusMutual love, respect, and
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submission should start at home.
In fact, it must start at home,not just when we're otin ab boot
amid the, uh, the public eye,you know, and, uh, that's otin
abut is Canadian for theAmerican out and about.
Very good.
Thank you for clarifying.
But our, our character is trulydefined by, by who we are when
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no one's looking right?
So, so here we can refer to, um,husbands.
Uh, listen up, man.
'cause it really preaching tomyself, talking to myself,
teaching to myself.
This is, you know, I didn'twrite it, but we, we are called
to abide by it.
Ephesians five, uh, 25 A.
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The first part of Ephesians 25says, husbands love your wife,
just as Christ also loved thechurch and gave himself up for
her.
Right.
But 5 33 lady says the wife mustsee to it that she respects her
husband, right?
Love and respect.
Love and respect.
Love and respect.
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Mm-hmm.
And then, uh.
Uh, Ephesians six.
Paul goes on in in the nextchapter, and, uh, Ephesians six,
the first three verses, uh,about the, the children.
And I, I kind of find it funny.
It's not documented that Paulhad any children, so you know,
it's, anyway, Paul writes,children, obey, obey your
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parents in the Lord for this isright.
Honor your mother and father sothat.
It may be well with you and youmay live long on the earth.
So, so is is Paul saying that ifyou don't honor your mother and
father, it's not gonna be wellfor you?
Well, and you might not livewell on this earth.
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Well, I used, well, I used totell my kids, I brought you into
this world.
I take you out this world if Iso choose.
Yeah.
Well, that's not, that's notwhat Jesus would say.
Probably not what Jesus would'vesaid.
But anyway, uh, so finally.
Uh, still in Ephesians six, uh,chapter four, back to the
Fathers.
Mm-hmm.
You know, dad's, husbands, it,it lands on us.
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We're kings and priests of ourhome, and, and we're we're it
man.
We're our mm-hmm.
We are.
If it's not going right.
It lands on us.
You know, what could we be doingbetter?
What should we have done better?
Uh, so concerning theirchildren, fathers, do not
provoke your children to anger,but bring them up in discipline
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and instruction of the Lord andthe instruction.
So the instruction of the Lordfairly simple.
Love, discipline.
Forgiveness.
Yeah, babe, those gr uh, greatscriptures.
I know you didn't write'em greatscriptures, but, and they're so
on point because the Bible is soclear about our rules.
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I didn't write'em our rules andNo, you didn't write'em.
Paul wrote those.
Paul, you know, Paul, it, thosewere just, but the live and by
'em, right.
But the Bible.
But it's clear, he made it veryclear about our roles in, in the
family.
And here's where I think thechallenge comes into play.
So we live in a world Yeah.
That constantly tells us to dowhat makes us happy.
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Yeah.
Protect your peace.
Just do you boo.
Just don't do that.
Don't do that.
Don't prioritize your dreams atall costs.
Right.
You know, step on whoever youneed to, to step on to get there
and, and.
I'm not gonna say there's notwisdom, there's, there's
definitely wisdom in self careand healthy boundaries, but
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culture has taken like that,like 10 steps further.
I mean, redefining love culture,redefines love basically as a
transaction and service asoptional.
Mm-hmm.
And as Christ followers we'recalled to die self.
Right.
We're not called to.
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Service is not optional for us.
Yeah.
And so do you wanna be right ordo you wanna have peace?
Right.
I mean that's newsflash asChrist followers we're
counter-cultural.
That's right.
Counter-cultural.
Yes.
So that's, um, that's a greatpoint.
You make some great pointsthere, babe.
Thank you for that.
Um, and I've, in marriage andparenting, you know, we often
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feel underappreciated.
Often Sure.
Feel underappreciated.
But, uh, so we gotta askourselves, are we loving and
respecting each other as God'sword designates?
Mm.
Are, are, are we even, do weknow what God's word designates?
We, we just gave you a snapshot,uh, in Ephesians five and six,
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what it designates.
So, so are we loving andrespecting each other as, mm.
Is designated per the, per theLord's word.
Um, just the same.
Are, uh, are we following Jesusas well as we want to?
Do we want to be followingJesus?
Are we following as close as weneed to be?
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Mm-hmm.
Um, he tells us in Matthew 16that if any of us, this is a big
deal.
If any of us desire to followhim, we must.
It's not an option.
If we're gonna follow Jesus, wemust deny ourselves.
Pick up our cross and followhim.
Uh, that's a bold call tocommit.
Mm-hmm.
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Commit.
There's, there's a, a challengein American society today,
commitment and consistency.
But, uh, to deny ourselves, pickup our cross and follow Christ
is a bold call to commit, to putothers before ourselves to, to,
um, and sacrifice our wants, uh,for the sake of someone else's
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needs, uh, and consistentlyfollow Christ through life.
Loving and forgiving along theway.
Yeah, and it's a process.
We're, we're not born to this.
This is something that we learn.
And I love what Jesus says inMatthew 11.
He says, uh, take my yoke uponyou and learn from me.
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Right?
That was, uh, that was the, hehit me with that over the head
several times last year.
Take my yoke upon you and learnfrom me.
So it's a, it's a process wherewe're learning.
From Christ, uh, learning, uh,through the Holy Spirit to, to
be like Christ.
Uh.
Mm-hmm.
And I gotta admit, you know,I've gone around that mountain.
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The, uh, the whole deny yourselfmountain, the whole, uh, you
know, it's, it's more than justbeing a better person.
It's denying ourselves the wholedeny yourself thing.
I've gone around that mountain.
A lot, uh, before I began tolearn to let it go and, and, and
deny myself.
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And even then you still go with,around that mountain?
I mean, I go through, I goaround that mountain like
weekly.
Well, yeah.
It's, it's not daily.
It's, it's, it's when I, when Ibegan to learn.
Right?
Yeah.
It's a, the process.
It's a, the process is learning,you know?
Yeah.
And we gotta start somewhere.
So, uh, you know.
Yeah, around and around we goround and around where we stop.
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Yeah.
I mean, holy Jesus knows, right?
I mean, sometimes it feels likewe give everything and we still
fall short.
Mm-hmm.
I mean, serving, you know, let'sjust face it.
I mean, serving your spouse,your kids, your aging parents,
it is not glamorous.
There's no applause.
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There's no Instagram post goingviral when you fold the laundry
or stay up late with a sickchild.
But in God's kingdom, thoseunseen acts of love, that's what
matters the most.
Yeah.
You know, we're not called to befulfilled first.
We're called to be faithful.
And fulfillment comes everytime.
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Every time after obedience.
Yeah.
Not before it.
You know, marriage and mar, youknow, I don't know.
Marriage and parenting can,those things can really expose
our selfishness.
Our impatience quickly.
Our pride.
I mean our pride.
Come on.
Yeah.
And I'll be the first to admitthat I have been selfish.
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I've been impatient, I've beenprideful both as a parent and in
marriage.
And I have regrettably Yeah.
Said very hurtful things.
Yeah.
And put my selfish ways aboveeveryone else in the family.
And I had to go back and I hadto apologize to you and I had to
apologize to the kids.
Right.
And and apologize to the Lordfor doing that.
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Yeah.
That's, and ask for forgivenessfrom.
All three of you repent andforgive.
Repent.
Right.
You know?
Yeah.
But we have to, we have to putother people first in the
family.
It is, you know, and because webelieve in the, the family,
because we believe in the, thenuclear family.
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Yeah.
You know, and, and we've, wechecked out some statistics and,
uh, and we got, you got somestatistics here.
Do you you wanna share that withour friends?
I mean, sadly.
Folks.
I mean, marriage burnout isreal.
Selfishness.
Going back to the selfishness.
And patience.
And pride.
Yeah.
I mean, the current stats ondivorce rates, which aren't too
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different in the church as theyare from outside the church.
Hmm.
But first marriages.
Yeah.
41% of marriages fail.
Second marriages, 60% ofmarriages fail.
Yeah.
And third marriages, 73%.
And I will say that, you know,uh, I'm gonna be totally
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transparent.
Alan is my third husband and weare, are so times a charm baby.
Well anyway, we don't believe incharms, but we don't do believe
in, in coming together as aspouse and as spouses and being
in the word and, and, you know,trusting the Lord with our
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marriage.
Yeah.
That's it.
And we refuse, we refuse to be apart of that.
73%.
Yeah.
That's not even an option.
We refuse.
It's not an option.
It's not even an option.
So, but so it, it is a crisis.
So, I mean, go ahead.
I mean, the why, why, why?
There's the question, why arethose statistics so high in the
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church?
Just the same as it is in theworld.
Why?
Yeah.
Why is, is divorce, uh, so, um,rampant?
Yeah.
Uh, why do we just give up?
Mm.
Um, because most of us are moreconcerned with, I gotta get
mine.
Mm-hmm.
We're pretty selfish.
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Lot.
Uh, when we should be concernedwith, with Jesus's call to die,
to self dying, to selfsacrificially.
Mm-hmm.
Um, I've been that selfish guy.
Uh, say it isn't so.
Um, it's, so, I, I've been thatguy and I, and I these days as
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I'm just doing my best to, tofollow him.
Mm.
Uh, more than just believingthat he existed, but.
Understanding that he existsand, and follow him now.
Yeah.
Not just in the, from readstories from the first century,
but follow him in the 21stcentury and die to self
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sacrificially.
Mm-hmm.
Um, most people walking aroundbreathing air are more
interested in being right thanhaving peace in their homes or
having peace with the people allaround them.
And, and the word says, youknow, if it be up to you.
Live at peace with all men.
Yeah.
Um, so likewise, uh, I want toshout out to my brothers out
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there, men listen up.
Uh, this, this is for you.
This is a disturb.
You thought the other stats weredisturbing, disturbing stat
about 19.5 million kids in theUnited States alone.
Uh, live in a, live in a homewithout a father.
Wow.
No father in a 19.5 million kidsjust in the United States, and
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mind you, United States leadsthe, uh, the world and
fatherlessness lousy stat.
Guys.
Um, over 80% of single parenthomes in America today are led
by women, and I hope thataggravates you as much as it
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aggravates me.
Yeah.
Um, there's a huge rabbit trailhere.
What, when we ask why, why isthat statistic so disturbingly
high, uh, that we can go down arabbit trail, but we're gonna
save that.
That's an episode for anothertime.
But in a nutshell, I mean, wecould say that, oh, well, well,
men are just irresponsible.
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Children and they, they, youknow, they just, they just need
to pick it up and they're just abunch of sluggards.
Well, well, yeah.
Mm-hmm.
But why?
Right.
You know?
Yeah.
And we don't wanna just placelabels, you know, we wanna Why
is that?
Mm-hmm.
Uh, and like I said, that's anepisode for another time, but in
a nutshell is it's because ofunrecognized, untreated and
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ignored generational wounds.
Yeah.
Men have remained boys withbeards and they shirk their
responsibilities because, uh,they have responsibilities to
their would be wives, uh, andtheir children.
Uh.
Because of, of the wounds thatthey've accumulated Yeah.
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Are most likely from theirfathers who accumulated wounds
from their fathers generationalwounds that have gone
unaddressed.
Mm-hmm.
Uh, and I, and I will tell youfrom experience that the, the
only one, the only way thatthese wounds are healed are
through belief that JesusChrist, the savior of all
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mankind, no other name.
Heaven and our earth by which wemust be saved by Jesus Christ
and the Holy Spirit.
Uh, we gotta believe that theycan do for us what we cannot do
for ourselves.
They can heal those wounds.
Yeah.
Uh, we'll come back to that inan episode later on down the
line.
Yeah, absolutely, babe.
I mean, that, that hits so deepand it's not just a stat, I mean
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this, it's a soul level crisis.
Yeah.
And we're watching, like youstarted to say, we're watching a
generation grow up.
Longing for their fathers theynever had and repeating the same
cycle over and over.
Yeah.
And I think that it's a certainsubject that we definitely
should, you know, talk aboutmore on another episode as it's
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crucial.
But I just wanna, I wanna pointout, you know, I sit on the
Board of Hearts for Moms, whichis an organization in Palm Beach
County that Hearts for moms.
Yeah.
That, that serve.
We should be wearing our jerseysright now.
We should be that serve singlemoms.
And in Palm Beach County alone,we have over a thousand single
moms.
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A thousand single moms on thewaiting list.
On the waiting list.
Yeah.
I mean, we serve, I am not evensure how many we're serving
right now, but over a thousandon the waiting list, you know,
and it is a crisis.
Right.
And that's a thousand dadsfathers really.
Right.
You got, you know, it takes aspecial person to be a dad.
That's, that's a thousand men.
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Just walking around doing theirown thing while, while, you
know, yeah.
Baby mama raising their kids.
Right.
You know?
Yeah.
I mean, I understand parenting.
Can feel thankless.
A lot of ti a lot of times.
I mean it can, I've been amother to four and you know,
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sometimes we do.
And we do.
And we do.
Mm-hmm.
But good solid parentingrequires selflessness.
Extreme patience.
Yeah.
And humility.
And I'm gonna place a strongemphasis on humility.
You know, Jesus is the perfectexample.
Large emphasis.
Strong, large emphasis onmelody.
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Huge melody.
You know, John 13, 14 to 15says, if I then the Lord and the
teacher washed your feet, oh,you also ought to wash one
another's feet for, I gave youan example that you also should
do as I did for you.
And Jesus showed us that no oneis above serving, no one.
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He didn't say, oh, you know,just serve when it's convenient.
Serve when it's comfortable foryou.
Right?
No.
He knelt with a towel.
Yeah.
With a basin.
Yeah.
And he washed the feet of peoplewho were going to betray him.
Yeah.
He laid down his life, not justat the cross.
Yeah.
But day after day after day.
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Yeah.
And moment by moment, you know,with compassion, with patience,
with unshakeable, unshakeablelove.
Yeah.
She's preaching.
I'm preaching right now.
My girl, my girl's preaching.
But come on, I should wear mypreach girl shirt.
No, But, but seriously, I mean,it takes humility to be a
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parent.
Yeah, yeah.
To be a spouse.
It's a sacrifice.
It is.
And it's a sacrifice.
It worth, oh, it's so worth it.
It's, it's worth, it's so worthit.
So, yes.
So I, I'll share a personalstory here.
There's a time, uh, early.
In my walk with Jesus when I wasvery immature in my faith.
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You know, we gotta startsomewhere, right?
You know, uh, pretty immature inmy faith.
And I was all of the above.
I was selfish, I was prideful,and I was very.
Very quick to anger and, uh, Iwas an absolute mess.
Um, I, I was gonna say, she, shewas there.
We've all been that mess though,right?
If we're gonna be fair.
Um, the ridiculous, myridiculous expectations of
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others, uh, debilitating fatigueand unmet wants and needs.
Uh, it just created, um,heinous, passive aggressive,
yuck.
It was, it was yuck.
The yuck.
Ugh.
Uh, and that just poured into,uh, fueled the, the yuck, fueled
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the anger and the rage.
Mm.
And there's ridiculous amount ofrage.
Uh, it was not cool.
It wasn't, it wasn't cool atall.
Yeah.
Not, uh, but it was, uh, it wasa, uh, a, a time of learning, a
time of, uh, yeah.
Many teachable moments there.
You know, so, but too, I mean, Ican remember coming home from,
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from work back in the day and,and just being so worn thin and
from this or that.
Mm-hmm.
You know, just, and justsnapping at the kids or at you
Yeah.
Over something that was soinsignificant because I was just
tired and I was empty.
Yeah.
And you know, at home, whenwe're at home, they see the real
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us.
Yeah.
They see the tired us.
They, they do, they see thefrustrated us.
Right.
And sometimes the selfish us.
Yeah.
Um, but Jesus didn't servebecause people deserved it.
Right.
He served because he loved them,period.
Right.
So I guess my point is don't letserving at home and, and
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elsewhere become a got toinstead of a get to.
Yeah.
We get to be parents.
We get to be a spouse.
Yeah.
We get to serve in ourcommunities and in our churches.
I mean, I know we're focused onthe home today.
Yeah.
But if we, if we flip the, flipthe script on, got to or get to,
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and we really focus on the getto aspect.
Be grateful for the opportunity.
I think we gotta live in the getto.
Yes.
We gotta we to stay on the getto.
Yeah.
But we, I mean we both had torelearn why we serve our family
and others.
Yeah.
Serving others while can't,cannot be out of duty.
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It has to be from a loving and acaring heart.
And, and we were both brokenreally badly back then.
I mean, I was broke.
We came into our marriage.
Yeah.
Both.
Broken really badly.
Right?
It was rough.
Yeah, it was rough.
But man, look what the Lord hasdone.
But look what the Lord has done.
Some of that.
Come on, babe.
But it it, and it's not possibleto serve or lead well from any
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kind of undealt with brokenness.
Yeah.
So we had to stop and we had totrust the Holy Spirit to lead us
and teach us and to love andforgive ourselves.
So that we can love and forgiveothers.
And that's, you know, we, that'ssomething we teach right in our
unbound as well.
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Unbound reviving recovery.
Unbound reviving, recoveryunbound.
Yeah, absolutely.
Jump in, message us.
If you wanna learn more aboutthat, send us a message.
We'd love to share that withyou.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
But anyhow, anyhow, you, youmentioned, uh, Jesus in his.
And his, uh, his foot washingmm-hmm.
As John noted in chapter 13.
Yeah.
And I wanted to, I wanted toelaborate on that.
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Yeah, of course.
Uh, is that, uh, you know, somepeople, people are difficult,
you know?
Mm-hmm.
I've, I've, I'm difficultsometimes.
Imagine that if you, if youwill.
Um, but, um.
People are difficult and, uh,people don't always meet our
expectations and, and betrayalis out there, but we gotta
remember that as Christfollowers remember this, that
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Jesus washed all of thedisciples feet and, uh, and John
1311, uh, it's noted that, thathe knew the one who was
betraying him.
Jesus knew.
Hmm.
That Judas was the one.
He knew that Judas was the onewhen he chose Judas and he knew
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Ju.
Wow.
And even knowing that at thetable when he knelt before
Judas, he knew that Judas wasgonna betray him and he washed
his feet anyway.
So serving isn't reciprocated inthe moment.
It's not always reciprocated inthe moment, and we shouldn't
serve to get something right.
Uh, but it.
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When we're serving from agrateful heart, it always comes
back around.
Well, yeah, it always comes backaround.
Well, so, absolutely.
So how do you want to be known?
How do you want to beremembered?
Do you want to be remembered as,as selfish or selfless?
Do you want to be remembered asprideful or humble?
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Uh, do you want to be rememberedas a rage?
That rage, dude, do you wanna berageful or patient?
I've been all three.
I've been that selfish guy.
I've been prideful, I've beenrageful, uh, and I'm so grateful
that the Holy Spirit has guidedme to a more mature mindset.
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Amen.
Amen.
Same right on.
I mean, I'm grateful for that aswell.
I'm sure you are.
But I, but I'm also gratefulthat he's done the same thing in
me because I've also been there.
I've also been those threethings.
Absolutely.
And I'm grateful he will, hewill move us to how he wants us.
He will recenter us, and hisword will recenter us, uh, so
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that we might find our truth,identity, uh, as long as we
allow him.
Right.
As long as we enter in arelationship with our creator,
with our savior, with the HolySpirit, uh, with the pliable
heart.
Mm-hmm.
Let them do what they do.
Nobody repairs the creation likethe creator.
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Amen.
So, are you guys ready forpractical, y'all?
If you've been listening for awhile or if, uh, you know that I
love practical, we got somepractical solutions here for
you.
Uh, we're gonna start withnumber one.
We, we wanna start small andstay consistent.
Yes.
Stay consistent.
Ask Daily.
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Ask him.
What's, or ask yourself, what'sone thing?
Uh.
One way that I could serve myspouse or my child today, uh,
could, I could make theircoffee.
Oh, you did that for me today.
I did You do that on anoccasion?
On several, several occasion.
Yeah.
On occasion.
Occasion.
I do.
Uh, yeah, I do make your coffee.
Yes.
And you make it very well withlove.
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Right on.
And, uh.
Speak their love language.
Do you know your spouse's lovelanguage?
Do you know your children's lovelanguage?
So that's a good one.
It's, it's important to know thelove language, and it's
important to know that lovelanguages change over time.
So if you've been in thatmarriage for a while, you know,
love languages do change.
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Um, honey Bunny here.
She has, she was once, uh, very,uh, stout with, with time and
touch and she, and now I likegifts.
She likes gifts, so I got thatgoing for me anyway.
But what about you?
I mean, where, where are yourlove language languages right
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now?
I, I, no, I used to be gifts.
Yeah, you used, used to begifts.
And I've shifted more to totime.
I, I appreciate time.
Acts of service.
Acts of service.
I was gonna say that's, I, Ireally know acts of service is a
big for if I get, if I go to dosomething and it's already been
done.
Yeah.
Ho that's good.
So, so know the love language.
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Yeah.
And, and do that, you know.
Right.
Put the fa but here, here it is.
In this day and age, put thephone down and be present.
Yeah.
Be present.
Yeah.
Right.
Come on.
So number two is we need tochoose humility over hustle.
Yeah.
So service, you know, isn'tabout perfection, right?
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It is about our heart posture.
Philippians two, three says, donothing outta selfish ambition,
but in humility, value othersabove yourselves.
Right?
So serve them like I, going backto what I said before, you know,
serve them for the sake ofserving them.
Yeah.
Serving them because you get to,not because you want something
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in return.
Yeah.
I mean, you said that earliertoo.
Not because we should neverserve term motive from that
place.
And you know, choose humilityover hustle.
We don't have to be doing allthe things.
Mm-hmm.
You know, we can take time toput the phone down.
Mm-hmm.
And to just.
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Not do it for our own self, butfor them.
That's it.
Yeah, that's it.
And number three is flip thescript on frustration.
If you're irritated it's, orwhen you're irritated, ask the
Lord.
Ask him, take time to stop andask.
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What wound or skewed belief, uh,is behind my unfavorable
behavior?
If you're irritated, there's,there's something in you that's,
that's caused that.
Yeah.
Uh, so what, what is thatbelief?
What is that wound?
Where is that irritation comingfrom?
Lord, what is that Holy Spirit?
What is that?
Where's this coming from?
Why am I so irritated by?
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This now?
Yeah.
And then take time to listen.
I like, uh, what Paul writes inColossians three, uh, 23.
He says, uh, and all you do workat it from your heart working as
unto the Lord.
And it might ask yourself, youknow, how does that, how does
that play into this?
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What's that got to do with it?
And if you're working, if you'reworking.
Uh, if you're working as untothe Lord, then you're more
likely to, um, ask him in thatmoment, in that irritation, uh,
to, Hey, what, what's causingthis?
Well?
And really, if you're doing itunto the Lord, are you even
gonna be frustrated to beginwith that?
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There you go.
There's another good point.
I mean, if you're doing it untothe Lord and not for selfish
ambition, right.
Then from a grateful heart.
From a grateful heart, right?
Then you're not gonna befrustrated about it.
So flip the script.
I think that deserves a Blammo.
Blammo.
Thank you there.
It's, I love it when I get aBlammo Blammo.
So, uh, so all you do, you know,serve of the grateful heart as
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unto the Lord?
Uh, today?
Yeah.
Today and every day.
I would say that we have toconsider other people's
position.
Mm.
Gotta, you know, I, I, yeah.
We gotta consider, I see I wasgoing down a rabbit trail there
and we're gonna reel it back inthere.
Nice catch.
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Reeling it back in there.
Alright.
Uh, so it's important for us toconsider what other people are
going through mm-hmm.
Because it's beneficial toconsider, uh, what other people
are going through and, and maybeask yourself, Hey, you know.
Maybe, maybe there's somethingthat I don't know.
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Mm.
And I was in California and I,and I was getting a little, a
little judgy, uh, imagine that.
Uh, and, and the spirit justkind of bludgeoned me as it was
a nice bludgeon.
It was a, it was like, it wasthat.
That tap, like with a, like atap with a, with a baguette pop.
Uh, a crusty on the outside, youknow?
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Yeah.
Dough, are you hungry insideBaguette, he's like, he's like,
Hey, smart guy.
Maybe there's something youdon't know here.
And, uh, I was like, maybethere's something you don't
know.
Yeah, I pondered on that.
I wrote that down and ponderedon that for days.
So, so we have to consider otherpeople's positions.
Yeah.
So, um, and I think that goesreally well into the fourth one,
which is speak life and modelgrace.
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I mean, words create atmosphereand there is death and life in
the tongue, right.
And we don't know what otherpeople are going through, right?
So we have to model grace.
We have to, um, if, if aquestion is asked, you know,
Proverbs, sometimes questionswill annoy me.
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Mm-hmm.
I'm just gonna be honest.
But Proverbs 15, one says that agentle answer turns away wrath.
Right.
And so.
I have to know that when someoneis coming to me with a question,
they genuinely need an answer.
They wouldn't be coming.
So I have to answer them withgrace and I have to speak life.
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We have to speak life over ourchildren, over our spouse.
And that again, that's anotherover our coworkers.
Yeah, over everyone.
But we're talking about hometoday, so we are, we're talking
about him.
So, you know, speak life overyour children.
Yeah.
You'll be amazed at what thatcan do.
And I wish I would've knownabout that as a young mother.
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Right.
I really wish I would have.
Right.
But speaking life is soimperative over your, over your
family.
Um, and understanding that, youknow, I can remember when our
kids were in middle school.
Uh, you know, I go back to thewhole middle school days because
those were really the roughestdays.
Oh.
And they would come home fromschool.
Rough.
Imagine what they were goingthrough.
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Right.
That's my point.
Right.
And they've had a rough day.
Right.
And maybe we wanted them to dosomething and they didn't do it.
You know, have meet them withgrace.
Yeah.
Because middle school's tough.
Yeah.
We found out things that wedidn't even know, like years
later.
Sure.
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About what.
Our kids went through in school.
Right.
You know, middle school and highschool and, and, uh, so meeting
them with grace, understandingthat we may not know.
Right.
Everything, like it comes withmaturity back down.
Yeah.
It comes with maturity and, andyou know, just understanding
where people Right, uh, comefrom and understanding what
people are going through.
Mm-hmm.
You know, we have to askourselves.
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You know, hey, like I saidearlier, maybe there's something
we don't know.
So, so how can we help insteadof hinder right in the moment,
right?
We don't, we, we certainly don'twanna make it worse.
We don't wanna be that person.
Sure.
Right.
Right.
So, uh, number five, practicalapplication, practical pray
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together.
Yes.
Doesn't much more practical thanthat together.
It doesn't get much more thatthat's square one.
Right, right.
Pray together.
Uh, even if it feels awkward.
And I would, and I would saygentlemen.
You know, if, if it feelsawkward to pray with your wife
or your kids, or, or, or wives,if it feels awkward to pray with
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your husband and your and yourchildren, then you should
definitely.
I wouldn't say, even if it feelsawkward, I say especially if it
feels awkward, you should pray.
Yeah.
Together.
Remember, servant hearted homesare built on surrendered hearts.
Oh, that's so good.
Will you say it again?
Servant hearted homes are builton surrendered hearts.
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Yeah.
To Christ Jesus, our Lord.
Yeah.
Praying together is servingChrist in our homes.
Yeah.
Do we want peace?
We all want peace.
And I, I, I want, I want to sayI want peace, and I hope that
you want peace, not as the worldgives it, but only as Christ
Jesus gives it.
So in prayer with each other,with our spouse, with our
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children, we should seek hispeace.
Yeah.
The Proverbs, uh, 27, um, Ithink it's 18 through 19, says,
he who tends a fig tree will eatits fruit.
Mm.
And he who cares for his masterwill be honored as, as in the
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water.
As in water face reflects face.
So the heart of a man reflectsman.
Mm-hmm.
So how do you want to be thoughtof everything that we, and we're
gonna, we'll talk about thisand, and, um.
Another episode.
Uh, everything we have flowsfrom our heart.
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Yeah.
And we want to guard our heart.
Um, because, you know, our heartref is a reflection of us, you
know?
Right.
And, and, and.
Uh, the Lord will transform ourheart when we allow him.
Uh mm-hmm.
So, so how do we want to beremembered?
Do we, how do we want to beseen?
How do we, how do we want to bethought of?
Yeah.
You know, how do you want yourchildren to remember you?
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How do you want your childrento, uh, yeah.
Yeah.
To remember to, yeah.
Yeah.
I mean,'cause they're gonna be,they're gonna be given our
eulogy, so, you know.
Anyway, moving on.
Yes.
Anyhow, as we reel it back in,as we reel in again, why don't
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you, why don't you give, let,let's, let's skip to the chase
here and why don't you give usthe, the call to action, right.
We're gonna wrap it up here.
Yeah.
As we're wrapping up.
Call to action.
Action item for the week is.
Ask yourselves, what's one waytoday that you could
intentionally serve someone inyour home?
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Serve your spouse, serve yourchildren.
Yeah.
Uh, how can you serve at homethis week?
Uh, maybe leave a kind note.
Maybe do the chore first.
Mm-hmm.
Uh, maybe say yes when you'drather not, uh, when it's
responsible to do so.
Right.
Um, expect.
Nothing in return give withoutexpecting anything in return.
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There's no need to mention thegood deed.
Just go ahead and do that.
Yeah.
And see.
And see.
And see the blessing that comesafter that.
Yeah.
And if it doesn't comenaturally, you know, don't
worry.
Just serve happy.
Go ahead, Alan.
I know you wanna sing it.
Don't worry.
Don't worry.
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Serve happy.
Don't worry.
Serve happy.
There you go.
There you've got it.
You know, the disciples didn'tget it at first either, so
praying into it, I mean, it'salways, they really didn't get
it.
Don't worry, serve happy.
Right.
But the Holy Spirit empowers us.
I mean, our, we are empowered bythe Holy Spirit to serve
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joyfully.
Yeah.
So pray into that.
I mean, that's the, the bestthing I can tell you.
Right.
Um, and let's wash feet, right.
Not just.
In theory, but in the kitchen,in the marketplace.
On the highway.
On the highway, would you pleasemerge kindly?
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Yes.
Yield.
Alan will be very happy ifyou're the person on the highway
yielding and merging.
Kindly right lane.
Ending one mile ahead.
Anyhow.
Yes.
So in the kitchen, in themarketplace, on the highway and
in the quiet In the everydaymoments.
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Yeah.
In the everyday moments.
In the everyday moments.
Yeah.
That's it, man.
Yeah.
And, uh, remember husbands,wives, children, uh, Jesus
didn't call us to be the hero ofour home because he is the hero
of our lives.
Yes.
And he just asked us to reflecthis heart.
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So take his yoke upon you andlearn from him daily.
Mm-hmm.
Um, Paul writes in, we, we'lltake it back.
Take Galatians six, nine through10.
Uh, let us not lose heart indoing good for, in due time, we
will reap if we do not growweary.
Yeah.
Uh, so then when we have theopportunity, while we have the
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opportunity, let us do good for.
Uh, for some people, for, forthe people that we, for the
people we really liked.
Let's read that again.
That's not what he said at all.
That's not at all.
Paul said, let us do good to allpeople.
All people.
All people.
Especially those who are in thehousehold of faith.
Right, right.
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Well.
We are to the end of our, of ourepisode, so you know, we have
been glad that you've joined us.
Yeah.
And next week we're going to betalking about serving in
business, uhoh KingdomLeadership in the marketplace.
In the marketplace.
In the marketplace.
And we're gonna dive into somescriptures that'll help us
better see what the eyes of ourheart, so that we may catch the
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spirit's vision for how to livefaithfully in the marketplace.
That's awesome.
Awesome Jesus in themarketplace.
That's right.
Yeah.
Yes.
I cannot wait.
And until then, remember, stayfaithfully invested and believe
that God will bring theincrease.
Yes, he will.
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I am Allen And I'm Stacy Jo, andwe are glad you're here today as
we jump into our topic of lovingour family like Jesus.
Yeah, loving him.
Sounds a little cliche, but asChrist followers, that's.
Who we're called to be, and it'swho we need to be.
Today we're gonna chat about howoddly funny it is, uh, that we
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can serve strangers or nearstrangers all day long, and
that, that we get bent outtashape, uh, when the bathroom is
void of any toilet paperwhatsoever.
Really?
You're gonna bring that up.
Well, you know, so, geez.
It's kind of funny now, but itwas not so funny at the time.
So I got in there the other day.
I, I mean, this is like.
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Five in the morning.
I got in there in an emergencyfashion, if you know what I
mean.
And there was nothing, nothing.
I mean, I mean, seriously, am Ithe only one living here that
can put toilet paper in theroom?
Let's just say that I was notsinging the psalm.
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During my shuffle to the otherbathroom, oh my Lord.
Oh man.
Oh babe, what an example.
I hope when you put it on, youput it on the right way because
you know when you put it on theother way, it's not the way it's
supposed to be.
There's a time and the place fordebates here, I'm just saying
this is neither the time nor theplace be, but it goes to the
point.
So why is it so much easier tobe polite to people at church or
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at work?
Rather than Right to our spouse.
I mean, you didn't like go offthe handle about it at five
o'clock in the morning.
No.
Didn't So that wasn't bad thatyou were annoyed wasn't I wasn't
ha.
I was a little annoyed because,you know, head emergency anyway.
But you know, we haveexpectations.
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Yeah.
Gotta watch out for thoseexpectations of people.
And it's easier sometimes.
To when people we don't knowdrop the ball on expectations,
then it is when our familymembers drop the ball.
Right?
Yeah.
That's the point.
So let, let's jump into what itshould look like to serve our
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family like Jesus would.
Yeah, I bet Jesus would'veprobably put toilet paper on the
roll, but seriously, butseriously, there was no time for
that.
Moving on.
Yeah.
So bringing it back to JesusMutual love, respect, and
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submission should start at home.
In fact, it must start at home,not just when we're otin ab boot
amid the, uh, the public eye,you know, and, uh, that's otin
abut is Canadian for theAmerican out and about.
Very good.
Thank you for clarifying.
But our, our character is trulydefined by, by who we are when
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no one's looking right?
So, so here we can refer to, um,husbands.
Uh, listen up, man.
'cause it really preaching tomyself, talking to myself,
teaching to myself.
This is, you know, I didn'twrite it, but we, we are called
to abide by it.
Ephesians five, uh, 25 A.
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The first part of Ephesians 25says, husbands love your wife,
just as Christ also loved thechurch and gave himself up for
her.
Right.
But 5 33 lady says the wife mustsee to it that she respects her
husband, right?
Love and respect.
Love and respect.
Love and respect.
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Mm-hmm.
And then, uh.
Uh, Ephesians six.
Paul goes on in in the nextchapter, and, uh, Ephesians six,
the first three verses, uh,about the, the children.
And I, I kind of find it funny.
It's not documented that Paulhad any children, so you know,
it's, anyway, Paul writes,children, obey, obey your
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parents in the Lord for this isright.
Honor your mother and father sothat.
It may be well with you and youmay live long on the earth.
So, so is is Paul saying that ifyou don't honor your mother and
father, it's not gonna be wellfor you?
Well, and you might not livewell on this earth.
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Well, I used, well, I used totell my kids, I brought you into
this world.
I take you out this world if Iso choose.
Yeah.
Well, that's not, that's notwhat Jesus would say.
Probably not what Jesus would'vesaid.
But anyway, uh, so finally.
Uh, still in Ephesians six, uh,chapter four, back to the
Fathers.
Mm-hmm.
You know, dad's, husbands, it,it lands on us.
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We're kings and priests of ourhome, and, and we're we're it
man.
We're our mm-hmm.
We are.
If it's not going right.
It lands on us.
You know, what could we be doingbetter?
What should we have done better?
Uh, so concerning theirchildren, fathers, do not
provoke your children to anger,but bring them up in discipline
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and instruction of the Lord andthe instruction.
So the instruction of the Lordfairly simple.
Love, discipline.
Forgiveness.
Yeah, babe, those gr uh, greatscriptures.
I know you didn't write'em greatscriptures, but, and they're so
on point because the Bible is soclear about our rules.
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I didn't write'em our rules andNo, you didn't write'em.
Paul wrote those.
Paul, you know, Paul, it, thosewere just, but the live and by
'em, right.
But the Bible.
But it's clear, he made it veryclear about our roles in, in the
family.
And here's where I think thechallenge comes into play.
So we live in a world Yeah.
That constantly tells us to dowhat makes us happy.
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Yeah.
Protect your peace.
Just do you boo.
Just don't do that.
Don't do that.
Don't prioritize your dreams atall costs.
Right.
You know, step on whoever youneed to, to step on to get there
and, and.
I'm not gonna say there's notwisdom, there's, there's
definitely wisdom in self careand healthy boundaries, but
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culture has taken like that,like 10 steps further.
I mean, redefining love culture,redefines love basically as a
transaction and service asoptional.
Mm-hmm.
And as Christ followers we'recalled to die self.
Right.
We're not called to.
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Service is not optional for us.
Yeah.
And so do you wanna be right ordo you wanna have peace?
Right.
I mean that's newsflash asChrist followers we're
counter-cultural.
That's right.
Counter-cultural.
Yes.
So that's, um, that's a greatpoint.
You make some great pointsthere, babe.
Thank you for that.
Um, and I've, in marriage andparenting, you know, we often
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feel underappreciated.
Often Sure.
Feel underappreciated.
But, uh, so we gotta askourselves, are we loving and
respecting each other as God'sword designates?
Mm.
Are, are, are we even, do weknow what God's word designates?
We, we just gave you a snapshot,uh, in Ephesians five and six,
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what it designates.
So, so are we loving andrespecting each other as, mm.
Is designated per the, per theLord's word.
Um, just the same.
Are, uh, are we following Jesusas well as we want to?
Do we want to be followingJesus?
Are we following as close as weneed to be?
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Mm-hmm.
Um, he tells us in Matthew 16that if any of us, this is a big
deal.
If any of us desire to followhim, we must.
It's not an option.
If we're gonna follow Jesus, wemust deny ourselves.
Pick up our cross and followhim.
Uh, that's a bold call tocommit.
Mm-hmm.
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Commit.
There's, there's a, a challengein American society today,
commitment and consistency.
But, uh, to deny ourselves, pickup our cross and follow Christ
is a bold call to commit, to putothers before ourselves to, to,
um, and sacrifice our wants, uh,for the sake of someone else's
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needs, uh, and consistentlyfollow Christ through life.
Loving and forgiving along theway.
Yeah, and it's a process.
We're, we're not born to this.
This is something that we learn.
And I love what Jesus says inMatthew 11.
He says, uh, take my yoke uponyou and learn from me.
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Right?
That was, uh, that was the, hehit me with that over the head
several times last year.
Take my yoke upon you and learnfrom me.
So it's a, it's a process wherewe're learning.
From Christ, uh, learning, uh,through the Holy Spirit to, to
be like Christ.
Uh.
Mm-hmm.
And I gotta admit, you know,I've gone around that mountain.
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The, uh, the whole deny yourselfmountain, the whole, uh, you
know, it's, it's more than justbeing a better person.
It's denying ourselves the wholedeny yourself thing.
I've gone around that mountain.
A lot, uh, before I began tolearn to let it go and, and, and
deny myself.
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And even then you still go with,around that mountain?
I mean, I go through, I goaround that mountain like
weekly.
Well, yeah.
It's, it's not daily.
It's, it's, it's when I, when Ibegan to learn.
Right?
Yeah.
It's a, the process.
It's a, the process is learning,you know?
Yeah.
And we gotta start somewhere.
So, uh, you know.
Yeah, around and around we goround and around where we stop.
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Yeah.
I mean, holy Jesus knows, right?
I mean, sometimes it feels likewe give everything and we still
fall short.
Mm-hmm.
I mean, serving, you know, let'sjust face it.
I mean, serving your spouse,your kids, your aging parents,
it is not glamorous.
There's no applause.
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There's no Instagram post goingviral when you fold the laundry
or stay up late with a sickchild.
But in God's kingdom, thoseunseen acts of love, that's what
matters the most.
Yeah.
You know, we're not called to befulfilled first.
We're called to be faithful.
And fulfillment comes everytime.
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Every time after obedience.
Yeah.
Not before it.
You know, marriage and mar, youknow, I don't know.
Marriage and parenting can,those things can really expose
our selfishness.
Our impatience quickly.
Our pride.
I mean our pride.
Come on.
Yeah.
And I'll be the first to admitthat I have been selfish.
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I've been impatient, I've beenprideful both as a parent and in
marriage.
And I have regrettably Yeah.
Said very hurtful things.
Yeah.
And put my selfish ways aboveeveryone else in the family.
And I had to go back and I hadto apologize to you and I had to
apologize to the kids.
Right.
And and apologize to the Lordfor doing that.
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Yeah.
That's, and ask for forgivenessfrom.
All three of you repent andforgive.
Repent.
Right.
You know?
Yeah.
But we have to, we have to putother people first in the
family.
It is, you know, and because webelieve in the, the family,
because we believe in the, thenuclear family.
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Yeah.
You know, and, and we've, wechecked out some statistics and,
uh, and we got, you got somestatistics here.
Do you you wanna share that withour friends?
I mean, sadly.
Folks.
I mean, marriage burnout isreal.
Selfishness.
Going back to the selfishness.
And patience.
And pride.
Yeah.
I mean, the current stats ondivorce rates, which aren't too
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different in the church as theyare from outside the church.
Hmm.
But first marriages.
Yeah.
41% of marriages fail.
Second marriages, 60% ofmarriages fail.
Yeah.
And third marriages, 73%.
And I will say that, you know,uh, I'm gonna be totally
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transparent.
Alan is my third husband and weare, are so times a charm baby.
Well anyway, we don't believe incharms, but we don't do believe
in, in coming together as aspouse and as spouses and being
in the word and, and, you know,trusting the Lord with our
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marriage.
Yeah.
That's it.
And we refuse, we refuse to be apart of that.
73%.
Yeah.
That's not even an option.
We refuse.
It's not an option.
It's not even an option.
So, but so it, it is a crisis.
So, I mean, go ahead.
I mean, the why, why, why?
There's the question, why arethose statistics so high in the
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church?
Just the same as it is in theworld.
Why?
Yeah.
Why is, is divorce, uh, so, um,rampant?
Yeah.
Uh, why do we just give up?
Mm.
Um, because most of us are moreconcerned with, I gotta get
mine.
Mm-hmm.
We're pretty selfish.
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Lot.
Uh, when we should be concernedwith, with Jesus's call to die,
to self dying, to selfsacrificially.
Mm-hmm.
Um, I've been that selfish guy.
Uh, say it isn't so.
Um, it's, so, I, I've been thatguy and I, and I these days as
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I'm just doing my best to, tofollow him.
Mm.
Uh, more than just believingthat he existed, but.
Understanding that he existsand, and follow him now.
Yeah.
Not just in the, from readstories from the first century,
but follow him in the 21stcentury and die to self
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sacrificially.
Mm-hmm.
Um, most people walking aroundbreathing air are more
interested in being right thanhaving peace in their homes or
having peace with the people allaround them.
And, and the word says, youknow, if it be up to you.
Live at peace with all men.
Yeah.
Um, so likewise, uh, I want toshout out to my brothers out
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there, men listen up.
Uh, this, this is for you.
This is a disturb.
You thought the other stats weredisturbing, disturbing stat
about 19.5 million kids in theUnited States alone.
Uh, live in a, live in a homewithout a father.
Wow.
No father in a 19.5 million kidsjust in the United States, and
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mind you, United States leadsthe, uh, the world and
fatherlessness lousy stat.
Guys.
Um, over 80% of single parenthomes in America today are led
by women, and I hope thataggravates you as much as it
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aggravates me.
Yeah.
Um, there's a huge rabbit trailhere.
What, when we ask why, why isthat statistic so disturbingly
high, uh, that we can go down arabbit trail, but we're gonna
save that.
That's an episode for anothertime.
But in a nutshell, I mean, wecould say that, oh, well, well,
men are just irresponsible.
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Children and they, they, youknow, they just, they just need
to pick it up and they're just abunch of sluggards.
Well, well, yeah.
Mm-hmm.
But why?
Right.
You know?
Yeah.
And we don't wanna just placelabels, you know, we wanna Why
is that?
Mm-hmm.
Uh, and like I said, that's anepisode for another time, but in
a nutshell is it's because ofunrecognized, untreated and
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ignored generational wounds.
Yeah.
Men have remained boys withbeards and they shirk their
responsibilities because, uh,they have responsibilities to
their would be wives, uh, andtheir children.
Uh.
Because of, of the wounds thatthey've accumulated Yeah.
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Are most likely from theirfathers who accumulated wounds
from their fathers generationalwounds that have gone
unaddressed.
Mm-hmm.
Uh, and I, and I will tell youfrom experience that the, the
only one, the only way thatthese wounds are healed are
through belief that JesusChrist, the savior of all
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mankind, no other name.
Heaven and our earth by which wemust be saved by Jesus Christ
and the Holy Spirit.
Uh, we gotta believe that theycan do for us what we cannot do
for ourselves.
They can heal those wounds.
Yeah.
Uh, we'll come back to that inan episode later on down the
line.
Yeah, absolutely, babe.
I mean, that, that hits so deepand it's not just a stat, I mean
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this, it's a soul level crisis.
Yeah.
And we're watching, like youstarted to say, we're watching a
generation grow up.
Longing for their fathers theynever had and repeating the same
cycle over and over.
Yeah.
And I think that it's a certainsubject that we definitely
should, you know, talk aboutmore on another episode as it's
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crucial.
But I just wanna, I wanna pointout, you know, I sit on the
Board of Hearts for Moms, whichis an organization in Palm Beach
County that Hearts for moms.
Yeah.
That, that serve.
We should be wearing our jerseysright now.
We should be that serve singlemoms.
And in Palm Beach County alone,we have over a thousand single
moms.
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A thousand single moms on thewaiting list.
On the waiting list.
Yeah.
I mean, we serve, I am not evensure how many we're serving
right now, but over a thousandon the waiting list, you know,
and it is a crisis.
Right.
And that's a thousand dadsfathers really.
Right.
You got, you know, it takes aspecial person to be a dad.
That's, that's a thousand men.
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Just walking around doing theirown thing while, while, you
know, yeah.
Baby mama raising their kids.
Right.
You know?
Yeah.
I mean, I understand parenting.
Can feel thankless.
A lot of ti a lot of times.
I mean it can, I've been amother to four and you know,
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sometimes we do.
And we do.
And we do.
Mm-hmm.
But good solid parentingrequires selflessness.
Extreme patience.
Yeah.
And humility.
And I'm gonna place a strongemphasis on humility.
You know, Jesus is the perfectexample.
Large emphasis.
Strong, large emphasis onmelody.
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Huge melody.
You know, John 13, 14 to 15says, if I then the Lord and the
teacher washed your feet, oh,you also ought to wash one
another's feet for, I gave youan example that you also should
do as I did for you.
And Jesus showed us that no oneis above serving, no one.
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He didn't say, oh, you know,just serve when it's convenient.
Serve when it's comfortable foryou.
Right?
No.
He knelt with a towel.
Yeah.
With a basin.
Yeah.
And he washed the feet of peoplewho were going to betray him.
Yeah.
He laid down his life, not justat the cross.
Yeah.
But day after day after day.
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Yeah.
And moment by moment, you know,with compassion, with patience,
with unshakeable, unshakeablelove.
Yeah.
She's preaching.
I'm preaching right now.
My girl, my girl's preaching.
But come on, I should wear mypreach girl shirt.
No, But, but seriously, I mean,it takes humility to be a
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parent.
Yeah, yeah.
To be a spouse.
It's a sacrifice.
It is.
And it's a sacrifice.
It worth, oh, it's so worth it.
It's, it's worth, it's so worthit.
So, yes.
So I, I'll share a personalstory here.
There's a time, uh, early.
In my walk with Jesus when I wasvery immature in my faith.
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You know, we gotta startsomewhere, right?
You know, uh, pretty immature inmy faith.
And I was all of the above.
I was selfish, I was prideful,and I was very.
Very quick to anger and, uh, Iwas an absolute mess.
Um, I, I was gonna say, she, shewas there.
We've all been that mess though,right?
If we're gonna be fair.
Um, the ridiculous, myridiculous expectations of
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others, uh, debilitating fatigueand unmet wants and needs.
Uh, it just created, um,heinous, passive aggressive,
yuck.
It was, it was yuck.
The yuck.
Ugh.
Uh, and that just poured into,uh, fueled the, the yuck, fueled
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the anger and the rage.
Mm.
And there's ridiculous amount ofrage.
Uh, it was not cool.
It wasn't, it wasn't cool atall.
Yeah.
Not, uh, but it was, uh, it wasa, uh, a, a time of learning, a
time of, uh, yeah.
Many teachable moments there.
You know, so, but too, I mean, Ican remember coming home from,
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from work back in the day and,and just being so worn thin and
from this or that.
Mm-hmm.
You know, just, and justsnapping at the kids or at you
Yeah.
Over something that was soinsignificant because I was just
tired and I was empty.
Yeah.
And you know, at home, whenwe're at home, they see the real
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us.
Yeah.
They see the tired us.
They, they do, they see thefrustrated us.
Right.
And sometimes the selfish us.
Yeah.
Um, but Jesus didn't servebecause people deserved it.
Right.
He served because he loved them,period.
Right.
So I guess my point is don't letserving at home and, and
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elsewhere become a got toinstead of a get to.
Yeah.
We get to be parents.
We get to be a spouse.
Yeah.
We get to serve in ourcommunities and in our churches.
I mean, I know we're focused onthe home today.
Yeah.
But if we, if we flip the, flipthe script on, got to or get to,
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and we really focus on the getto aspect.
Be grateful for the opportunity.
I think we gotta live in the getto.
Yes.
We gotta we to stay on the getto.
Yeah.
But we, I mean we both had torelearn why we serve our family
and others.
Yeah.
Serving others while can't,cannot be out of duty.
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It has to be from a loving and acaring heart.
And, and we were both brokenreally badly back then.
I mean, I was broke.
We came into our marriage.
Yeah.
Both.
Broken really badly.
Right?
It was rough.
Yeah, it was rough.
But man, look what the Lord hasdone.
But look what the Lord has done.
Some of that.
Come on, babe.
But it it, and it's not possibleto serve or lead well from any
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kind of undealt with brokenness.
Yeah.
So we had to stop and we had totrust the Holy Spirit to lead us
and teach us and to love andforgive ourselves.
So that we can love and forgiveothers.
And that's, you know, we, that'ssomething we teach right in our
unbound as well.
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Unbound reviving recovery.
Unbound reviving, recoveryunbound.
Yeah, absolutely.
Jump in, message us.
If you wanna learn more aboutthat, send us a message.
We'd love to share that withyou.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
But anyhow, anyhow, you, youmentioned, uh, Jesus in his.
And his, uh, his foot washingmm-hmm.
As John noted in chapter 13.
Yeah.
And I wanted to, I wanted toelaborate on that.
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Yeah, of course.
Uh, is that, uh, you know, somepeople, people are difficult,
you know?
Mm-hmm.
I've, I've, I'm difficultsometimes.
Imagine that if you, if youwill.
Um, but, um.
People are difficult and, uh,people don't always meet our
expectations and, and betrayalis out there, but we gotta
remember that as Christfollowers remember this, that
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Jesus washed all of thedisciples feet and, uh, and John
1311, uh, it's noted that, thathe knew the one who was
betraying him.
Jesus knew.
Hmm.
That Judas was the one.
He knew that Judas was the onewhen he chose Judas and he knew
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Ju.
Wow.
And even knowing that at thetable when he knelt before
Judas, he knew that Judas wasgonna betray him and he washed
his feet anyway.
So serving isn't reciprocated inthe moment.
It's not always reciprocated inthe moment, and we shouldn't
serve to get something right.
Uh, but it.
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When we're serving from agrateful heart, it always comes
back around.
Well, yeah, it always comes backaround.
Well, so, absolutely.
So how do you want to be known?
How do you want to beremembered?
Do you want to be remembered as,as selfish or selfless?
Do you want to be remembered asprideful or humble?
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Uh, do you want to be rememberedas a rage?
That rage, dude, do you wanna berageful or patient?
I've been all three.
I've been that selfish guy.
I've been prideful, I've beenrageful, uh, and I'm so grateful
that the Holy Spirit has guidedme to a more mature mindset.
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Amen.
Amen.
Same right on.
I mean, I'm grateful for that aswell.
I'm sure you are.
But I, but I'm also gratefulthat he's done the same thing in
me because I've also been there.
I've also been those threethings.
Absolutely.
And I'm grateful he will, hewill move us to how he wants us.
He will recenter us, and hisword will recenter us, uh, so
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that we might find our truth,identity, uh, as long as we
allow him.
Right.
As long as we enter in arelationship with our creator,
with our savior, with the HolySpirit, uh, with the pliable
heart.
Mm-hmm.
Let them do what they do.
Nobody repairs the creation likethe creator.
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Amen.
So, are you guys ready forpractical, y'all?
If you've been listening for awhile or if, uh, you know that I
love practical, we got somepractical solutions here for
you.
Uh, we're gonna start withnumber one.
We, we wanna start small andstay consistent.
Yes.
Stay consistent.
Ask Daily.
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Ask him.
What's, or ask yourself, what'sone thing?
Uh.
One way that I could serve myspouse or my child today, uh,
could, I could make theircoffee.
Oh, you did that for me today.
I did You do that on anoccasion?
On several, several occasion.
Yeah.
On occasion.
Occasion.
I do.
Uh, yeah, I do make your coffee.
Yes.
And you make it very well withlove.
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Right on.
And, uh.
Speak their love language.
Do you know your spouse's lovelanguage?
Do you know your children's lovelanguage?
So that's a good one.
It's, it's important to know thelove language, and it's
important to know that lovelanguages change over time.
So if you've been in thatmarriage for a while, you know,
love languages do change.
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Um, honey Bunny here.
She has, she was once, uh, very,uh, stout with, with time and
touch and she, and now I likegifts.
She likes gifts, so I got thatgoing for me anyway.
But what about you?
I mean, where, where are yourlove language languages right
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now?
I, I, no, I used to be gifts.
Yeah, you used, used to begifts.
And I've shifted more to totime.
I, I appreciate time.
Acts of service.
Acts of service.
I was gonna say that's, I, Ireally know acts of service is a
big for if I get, if I go to dosomething and it's already been
done.
Yeah.
Ho that's good.
So, so know the love language.
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Yeah.
And, and do that, you know.
Right.
Put the fa but here, here it is.
In this day and age, put thephone down and be present.
Yeah.
Be present.
Yeah.
Right.
Come on.
So number two is we need tochoose humility over hustle.
Yeah.
So service, you know, isn'tabout perfection, right?
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It is about our heart posture.
Philippians two, three says, donothing outta selfish ambition,
but in humility, value othersabove yourselves.
Right?
So serve them like I, going backto what I said before, you know,
serve them for the sake ofserving them.
Yeah.
Serving them because you get to,not because you want something
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in return.
Yeah.
I mean, you said that earliertoo.
Not because we should neverserve term motive from that
place.
And you know, choose humilityover hustle.
We don't have to be doing allthe things.
Mm-hmm.
You know, we can take time toput the phone down.
Mm-hmm.
And to just.
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Not do it for our own self, butfor them.
That's it.
Yeah, that's it.
And number three is flip thescript on frustration.
If you're irritated it's, orwhen you're irritated, ask the
Lord.
Ask him, take time to stop andask.
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What wound or skewed belief, uh,is behind my unfavorable
behavior?
If you're irritated, there's,there's something in you that's,
that's caused that.
Yeah.
Uh, so what, what is thatbelief?
What is that wound?
Where is that irritation comingfrom?
Lord, what is that Holy Spirit?
What is that?
Where's this coming from?
Why am I so irritated by?
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This now?
Yeah.
And then take time to listen.
I like, uh, what Paul writes inColossians three, uh, 23.
He says, uh, and all you do workat it from your heart working as
unto the Lord.
And it might ask yourself, youknow, how does that, how does
that play into this?
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What's that got to do with it?
And if you're working, if you'reworking.
Uh, if you're working as untothe Lord, then you're more
likely to, um, ask him in thatmoment, in that irritation, uh,
to, Hey, what, what's causingthis?
Well?
And really, if you're doing itunto the Lord, are you even
gonna be frustrated to beginwith that?
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There you go.
There's another good point.
I mean, if you're doing it untothe Lord and not for selfish
ambition, right.
Then from a grateful heart.
From a grateful heart, right?
Then you're not gonna befrustrated about it.
So flip the script.
I think that deserves a Blammo.
Blammo.
Thank you there.
It's, I love it when I get aBlammo Blammo.
So, uh, so all you do, you know,serve of the grateful heart as
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unto the Lord?
Uh, today?
Yeah.
Today and every day.
I would say that we have toconsider other people's
position.
Mm.
Gotta, you know, I, I, yeah.
We gotta consider, I see I wasgoing down a rabbit trail there
and we're gonna reel it back inthere.
Nice catch.
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Reeling it back in there.
Alright.
Uh, so it's important for us toconsider what other people are
going through mm-hmm.
Because it's beneficial toconsider, uh, what other people
are going through and, and maybeask yourself, Hey, you know.
Maybe, maybe there's somethingthat I don't know.
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Mm.
And I was in California and I,and I was getting a little, a
little judgy, uh, imagine that.
Uh, and, and the spirit justkind of bludgeoned me as it was
a nice bludgeon.
It was a, it was like, it wasthat.
That tap, like with a, like atap with a, with a baguette pop.
Uh, a crusty on the outside, youknow?
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Yeah.
Dough, are you hungry insideBaguette, he's like, he's like,
Hey, smart guy.
Maybe there's something youdon't know here.
And, uh, I was like, maybethere's something you don't
know.
Yeah, I pondered on that.
I wrote that down and ponderedon that for days.
So, so we have to consider otherpeople's positions.
Yeah.
So, um, and I think that goesreally well into the fourth one,
which is speak life and modelgrace.
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I mean, words create atmosphereand there is death and life in
the tongue, right.
And we don't know what otherpeople are going through, right?
So we have to model grace.
We have to, um, if, if aquestion is asked, you know,
Proverbs, sometimes questionswill annoy me.
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Mm-hmm.
I'm just gonna be honest.
But Proverbs 15, one says that agentle answer turns away wrath.
Right.
And so.
I have to know that when someoneis coming to me with a question,
they genuinely need an answer.
They wouldn't be coming.
So I have to answer them withgrace and I have to speak life.
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We have to speak life over ourchildren, over our spouse.
And that again, that's anotherover our coworkers.
Yeah, over everyone.
But we're talking about hometoday, so we are, we're talking
about him.
So, you know, speak life overyour children.
Yeah.
You'll be amazed at what thatcan do.
And I wish I would've knownabout that as a young mother.
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Right.
I really wish I would have.
Right.
But speaking life is soimperative over your, over your
family.
Um, and understanding that, youknow, I can remember when our
kids were in middle school.
Uh, you know, I go back to thewhole middle school days because
those were really the roughestdays.
Oh.
And they would come home fromschool.
Rough.
Imagine what they were goingthrough.
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Right.
That's my point.
Right.
And they've had a rough day.
Right.
And maybe we wanted them to dosomething and they didn't do it.
You know, have meet them withgrace.
Yeah.
Because middle school's tough.
Yeah.
We found out things that wedidn't even know, like years
later.
Sure.
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About what.
Our kids went through in school.
Right.
You know, middle school and highschool and, and, uh, so meeting
them with grace, understandingthat we may not know.
Right.
Everything, like it comes withmaturity back down.
Yeah.
It comes with maturity and, andyou know, just understanding
where people Right, uh, comefrom and understanding what
people are going through.
Mm-hmm.
You know, we have to askourselves.
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You know, hey, like I saidearlier, maybe there's something
we don't know.
So, so how can we help insteadof hinder right in the moment,
right?
We don't, we, we certainly don'twanna make it worse.
We don't wanna be that person.
Sure.
Right.
Right.
So, uh, number five, practicalapplication, practical pray
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together.
Yes.
Doesn't much more practical thanthat together.
It doesn't get much more thatthat's square one.
Right, right.
Pray together.
Uh, even if it feels awkward.
And I would, and I would saygentlemen.
You know, if, if it feelsawkward to pray with your wife
or your kids, or, or, or wives,if it feels awkward to pray with
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your husband and your and yourchildren, then you should
definitely.
I wouldn't say, even if it feelsawkward, I say especially if it
feels awkward, you should pray.
Yeah.
Together.
Remember, servant hearted homesare built on surrendered hearts.
Oh, that's so good.
Will you say it again?
Servant hearted homes are builton surrendered hearts.
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Yeah.
To Christ Jesus, our Lord.
Yeah.
Praying together is servingChrist in our homes.
Yeah.
Do we want peace?
We all want peace.
And I, I, I want, I want to sayI want peace, and I hope that
you want peace, not as the worldgives it, but only as Christ
Jesus gives it.
So in prayer with each other,with our spouse, with our
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children, we should seek hispeace.
Yeah.
The Proverbs, uh, 27, um, Ithink it's 18 through 19, says,
he who tends a fig tree will eatits fruit.
Mm.
And he who cares for his masterwill be honored as, as in the
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water.
As in water face reflects face.
So the heart of a man reflectsman.
Mm-hmm.
So how do you want to be thoughtof everything that we, and we're
gonna, we'll talk about thisand, and, um.
Another episode.
Uh, everything we have flowsfrom our heart.
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Yeah.
And we want to guard our heart.
Um, because, you know, our heartref is a reflection of us, you
know?
Right.
And, and, and.
Uh, the Lord will transform ourheart when we allow him.
Uh mm-hmm.
So, so how do we want to beremembered?
Do we, how do we want to beseen?
How do we, how do we want to bethought of?
Yeah.
You know, how do you want yourchildren to remember you?
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How do you want your childrento, uh, yeah.
Yeah.
To remember to, yeah.
Yeah.
I mean,'cause they're gonna be,they're gonna be given our
eulogy, so, you know.
Anyway, moving on.
Yes.
Anyhow, as we reel it back in,as we reel in again, why don't
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you, why don't you give, let,let's, let's skip to the chase
here and why don't you give usthe, the call to action, right.
We're gonna wrap it up here.
Yeah.
As we're wrapping up.
Call to action.
Action item for the week is.
Ask yourselves, what's one waytoday that you could
intentionally serve someone inyour home?
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Serve your spouse, serve yourchildren.
Yeah.
Uh, how can you serve at homethis week?
Uh, maybe leave a kind note.
Maybe do the chore first.
Mm-hmm.
Uh, maybe say yes when you'drather not, uh, when it's
responsible to do so.
Right.
Um, expect.
Nothing in return give withoutexpecting anything in return.
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There's no need to mention thegood deed.
Just go ahead and do that.
Yeah.
And see.
And see.
And see the blessing that comesafter that.
Yeah.
And if it doesn't comenaturally, you know, don't
worry.
Just serve happy.
Go ahead, Alan.
I know you wanna sing it.
Don't worry.
Don't worry.
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Serve happy.
Don't worry.
Serve happy.
There you go.
There you've got it.
You know, the disciples didn'tget it at first either, so
praying into it, I mean, it'salways, they really didn't get
it.
Don't worry, serve happy.
Right.
But the Holy Spirit empowers us.
I mean, our, we are empowered bythe Holy Spirit to serve
(40:19):
joyfully.
Yeah.
So pray into that.
I mean, that's the, the bestthing I can tell you.
Right.
Um, and let's wash feet, right.
Not just.
In theory, but in the kitchen,in the marketplace.
On the highway.
On the highway, would you pleasemerge kindly?
(40:39):
Yes.
Yield.
Alan will be very happy ifyou're the person on the highway
yielding and merging.
Kindly right lane.
Ending one mile ahead.
Anyhow.
Yes.
So in the kitchen, in themarketplace, on the highway and
in the quiet In the everydaymoments.
(41:01):
Yeah.
In the everyday moments.
In the everyday moments.
Yeah.
That's it, man.
Yeah.
And, uh, remember husbands,wives, children, uh, Jesus
didn't call us to be the hero ofour home because he is the hero
of our lives.
Yes.
And he just asked us to reflecthis heart.
(41:23):
So take his yoke upon you andlearn from him daily.
Mm-hmm.
Um, Paul writes in, we, we'lltake it back.
Take Galatians six, nine through10.
Uh, let us not lose heart indoing good for, in due time, we
will reap if we do not growweary.
Yeah.
Uh, so then when we have theopportunity, while we have the
(41:46):
opportunity, let us do good for.
Uh, for some people, for, forthe people that we, for the
people we really liked.
Let's read that again.
That's not what he said at all.
That's not at all.
Paul said, let us do good to allpeople.
All people.
All people.
Especially those who are in thehousehold of faith.
Right, right.
(42:09):
Well.
We are to the end of our, of ourepisode, so you know, we have
been glad that you've joined us.
Yeah.
And next week we're going to betalking about serving in
business, uhoh KingdomLeadership in the marketplace.
In the marketplace.
In the marketplace.
And we're gonna dive into somescriptures that'll help us
better see what the eyes of ourheart, so that we may catch the
(42:31):
spirit's vision for how to livefaithfully in the marketplace.
That's awesome.
Awesome Jesus in themarketplace.
That's right.
Yeah.
Yes.
I cannot wait.
And until then, remember, stayfaithfully invested and believe
that God will bring theincrease.
Yes, he will.
(42:51):
God bless you, and we'll see younext time.
Bye-bye.
Thanks for joining us onFaithfully Invested with Allen
and Stacy Jo, if today'sconversation encouraged you,
challenged you, or helped yousee your calling more clearly,
don't keep it to yourself.
That's right.
Share it with a friend.
Leave a five star review andkeep leaning into God's
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blueprint for your life, yourleadership, and your legacy.
So until next time, remember,when you invest in his kingdom,
he brings the increase.
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