November 19, 2025 • 60 mins
In this powerful episode of Faithfully Invested, Allen and Stacy Jo open their hearts and invite you into a conversation that matters deeply to every family, every leader, and every follower of Christ: Generational Unity and Passing the Baton Well.
Whether you’re leading a business, a ministry, a family, or simply navigating your own personal walk with the Lord, this episode will help you understand what it really looks like to steward legacy through humility, reconciliation, mentorship, and Kingdom-centered purpose.
Allen and Stacy Jo share personal stories from their own blended family journey—raising four adult children, working alongside their daughters in business, healing from the messiness of the past, and learning how daily choices shape generational impact. You’ll hear raw honesty, biblical wisdom, practical encouragement, and powerful reminders that legacy isn’t what we leave to our children—it’s what we leave in them.
Inside this episode you’ll hear about:
• The beauty of reconciliation between generations
• Why humility and listening matter more than ever
• How to mentor without controlling
• What it takes to pass the baton well in business and family
• Why God’s vision is always generational
• How faith is caught more than taught
• The power of speaking life and breaking old patterns
• Why legacy requires releasing, receiving, and running your race with intention
If you’re navigating the tension between “how it was done” and “how it’s done now,” this episode will speak life into your home, your leadership, and your legacy.
Be encouraged. Be challenged. Be strengthened.
And remember — when we invest in His Kingdom, He brings the increase.
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Are you ready to build a life,business and legacy that truly
lasts?
Welcome to Faithfully Investedwith Allen and Stacy Jo Thorne,
where Faith meets real talk.
Biblical wisdom meets everydaylife and leadership meets
laughter.
Together we will uncover God'sblueprint for leadership,
marriage, and mission, helpingfaith-driven leaders invest in
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what matters most.
Each episode, we explorebiblical wisdom, have real
conversations, and of course,have some fun along the way
because let's be real.
Walking in faith is anadventure.
It sure is.
So pull up a seat, grab yourcoffee or your sweet tea, and
join us as we steward ourcallings with intention, because
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when we invest in his kingdom,he brings the increase.
Welcome back to FaithfullyInvested.
I am Stacy Jo, and I am, I'm notStacy Jo.
I'm Allen.
No, thank you.
You are Allen.
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That's an A.
Two Ls and an N.
Right?
Right.
Not the A LAN.
That's just wrong.
Right.
Anyway, sorry guys.
Anyhow, today we are leaninginto a topic that speaks to
legacy leadership and the heartof the kingdom.
We're talking about generation,generational unity and passing
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the baton.
Well, yeah, you gotta pass it.
Well, yeah.
'cause if you're not passing itwell, you know, you're dropping
it, you're dropping it.
That's it.
You know, I've dropped a fewbatons in my time, but, uh,
anyways, are we all thisconversation Yeah.
It's not the drop in of thebaton, it's how well we pick it
back up and run.
That's right, that's right.
Um, the con this conversationmatters to us personally.
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Um,'cause.
As I, I was, I was inserted, uh,about midway through the, the
kids youth.
And, uh, even as I was, youknow, we, we've done our best,
uh, through challengingcircumstances to raise four kids
who are all grown now.
Uh, one daughter lives outtastate, uh, our son.
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Uh, is in the Navy in Washingtonstate, and, uh, two of our
daughters live here, uh, andwork alongside Stacy Jo and, uh,
Freedom Support Solutions andthe Association of Christian
Business Women.
Very successful businesses.
Well, just to clarify, all ofour girls work with me, but one
just works part-time and worksremotely from outta state.
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Right.
But, but that dynamic brings.
Both joy and challenges.
So when you work with your adultkids, you're not just building a
business, you're actuallyshaping a legacy.
And we've learned that passingthe baton isn't a one-time
event.
It's a daily choice to lead withhumility and live with a loving
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perspective.
Yeah, a daily choice, I thinkreally key.
A daily choice key.
That's the key there.
We gotta, yeah, for sure.
We gotta choose, uh.
Choose love daily, choose.
Mm-hmm.
Uh, you know, gotta followChrist Daily.
That's right.
And that, that's, uh, that'swhat it really comes down to.
Uh, it's about realizing God'svision.
Uh, it's always generational.
His, his, uh, what he startswith one of us, he intends to
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continue through the nextgeneration and, and so on and so
forth.
And a great place to start.
Just about anywhere, but agreat, uh, so, but we're gonna
start here.
Mm-hmm.
Uh, is gratitude.
Yeah, gratitude's always a greatplace to start.
Um, our umbrella company,grateful Hearts.
Yeah.
Uh, man, I'm telling you that,uh, a Grateful Heart is, uh, is
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a great place to start from.
It does so gratitude is it, uh,regardless of our circumstances,
we all have something to begrateful for.
Psalmss 100 (03:49):
5-6 declares for us to enter his gates with
thanksgiving and his courtswould praise.
I give thanks to him.
Bless his name.
For the Lord is good.
Yeah.
His loving kindness iseverlasting and is faithful and
he, he is faithful to allgenerations.
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How many generations?
All generations.
Generations.
Yeah.
You know the Hebrew, uh.
A Hebrew word for that meansall.
All.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Not some.
All generations.
All generations moving on.
Yeah.
I think every leader eventuallycomes to that moment of
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awareness where they're like,this can't end with me.
Yeah.
And as Christ followers, ourfamilies are a wholly
responsibility, and we muststeward that well.
And regardless of whether theywork for you or not.
Yeah.
But we must steward it.
Well, you're either gonna cometo the awareness or you're gonna
come to the awkwardness.
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Very good.
You know, so that's so true's.
You gotta be aware.
Mm-hmm.
And, uh, if we, if you wannapass it on, and quite honestly,
I, I dropped the ball early onmore times than I care to
mention, you know?
And, uh, and that's all right.
'cause it's, mm-hmm.
Uh, it was, it was highlychallenging back then.
I was highly challenging backthen.
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And, uh.
Uh, those circumstances affectedour kids' identity, uh, and
relationship with the Lord.
However, um.
He informed me.
He, he's informed us, uh,through prayer as we do, we, I
mean, y'all pray for your kids,right?
You pray over your kids, and,uh, and if, and if you don't
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pray for your kids, yeah.
Pray for your kids.
'cause through prayer, uh, over,over time, he's informed us that
he has'em all and they all willreturn to him.
Mm-hmm.
Uh, so we stand on his declaredrhema word.
Um, people might be like, what'sa rhema word?
Right.
Uh, the rhema word first, the,the, uh, the logos word is, is
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the Bible.
God's written word is the logosword, uh, and the rhema word,
it's, it's R-H-E-M-A.
And the rhema word is as wepray.
Uh, and in this case, as we prayover and for our children, the
word that we get back from thespirit, uh, is that, uh, that's
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the rhema word, the, theinformation, the truth mm-hmm.
That we receive from the HolySpirit, uh, in our quiet time.
Uh, it's what he says.
Uh, in our prayer.
'cause as we, we, as we pray,uh, with, uh, as we pray, we,
it's not just requests, youknow?
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Right.
It's not just speaking.
Uh, the greater part ofcommunication, uh, is, is
listening.
Mm-hmm.
And communication is key torelationship.
So if we're, if we're gonna havea strong relationship with the
Lord, um.
Not only should we speak less,we should listen more.
Mm-hmm.
And as we're listening, what hesays to us as, as, as, yeah.
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As we're listening is that's theRhema word.
Yeah.
Uh, I hope that makes sense.
Right.
Um, yeah.
So, uh, so through the Rhemaword, he said that they're, uh,
all of her kids are, arereturning to him.
Yes.
They, they've had challenges,uh.
Won't go into the challenges,uh, but Right.
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You know, they, they kinda rodeour coattails and kind of
mm-hmm.
Kind of went through the motionsand kind of, uh, just.
They rode, uh, rode the wave ofour faith, right?
Which was, uh, quite honestly,back in those days was, was, uh,
growing and, uh, sketchy at thetime.
My, at least mine was, I, I canspeak to that.
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I was, I was in and out and Ilike to, I, I, I don't like to
say, but I have said, uh, inthose days as I was, uh, coming
out of addiction, uh, was, uh, Isprinkled a little Jesus on my
otherwise drunken existence.
Uh, so it was, it waschallenging, but.
Uh, he has, uh, informed us.
The, the, the Lord's informed usthat, uh, they're all coming
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back.
They're back.
He's got'em all.
Uh, because we, we don't everlose our salvation.
Right.
We don't lose our salvation.
So, and, and if someone told youthat you lose your salvation,
then pack your step and get outof there.
'cause that's a lie.
Uh, we don't lose our salvation.
So, but we started to witnessthem coming back.
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Yeah.
In, yeah.
And that's a, that was ablessing.
It was an absolute joy towitness them.
Yeah.
Coming back into their ownrelationship mm-hmm.
With God, uh, as each one ofthem, uh, stepped into their own
callings in his timing, not ourtiming.
You know, we want everythingnow.
You know, bring'em back now,Lord.
How about it?
Right.
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You know?
Uh, so, but it's so cool towatch him come back and, uh, and
be healed and be reconciled and,uh.
Just move into their owncallings in his timing.
Mm-hmm.
And, um, only, it's only becauseof him, uh, that they think
differently.
They lead differently than thanever before because they believe
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and that's it.
That's it.
They believe and they walk inhis love.
Therefore, they carrytransformed hearts.
For his kingdom.
Yeah.
And that's, and that's thebeauty of generational unity.
It's not about duplication, butit's actually about impartation.
Yeah.
And the greatest service that wecan do for any of our kids is to
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display the love of the fatherthrough Jesus.
Right.
You know, we believe that it istrue for kids of any age that
what they take away from ourhome is more caught than taught.
It's proven.
Yeah.
And lead.
So just lead in love always.
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It's the best thing you can do.
Lead in love.
Lead in love.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
And we've learned this throughmany life lessons and, uh, how
many of you know that, uh, ourgreatest life lessons are
learned from our greatestmistakes?
Yeah, me.
I know.
Truth, truth.
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Um, but through it all, um, I'vementioned this before, I, I've
dropped a lot of balls, but, um,I also learned that it's not the
falling down that defines me.
It's not the, that's right.
Any of us.
It's not the falling down thatdefines any of us.
It's, it's how we get back upand who we follow or who we
decide to follow.
And that that's what defines us.
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Oftentimes forward progress isreleasing the lie.
We gotta, we gotta release thelie so we can receive the truth
and as we release the lie.
Uh, that success, uh, one of,one of the biggest lies we gotta
release is that, that successequals control.
Oh, right.
Yeah.
Uh, yeah.
That's a lot that there might bea challenge if, if we're trying
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to control the situation.
'cause regardless of what wethink we're, we're not in
control.
Mm-hmm.
Uh, God's always, always hasbeen, always will be in control.
And I, I don't believe that thattrue success ever means
perfection, but.
That through the trials that ourkids witness our perseverant
faith as an example, so thatthey'll go forward, uh, and
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they'll thrive without ourconstant direction.
Uh, but, but that they would,that, that they would see how we
have come to rely on the HolySpirit's direction so that they
will, uh.
Be inspired or like, like youmentioned, they, they will have
caught that more.
More.
Yeah.
There's more caught than taughtand so they will consistently
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rely on the Holy Spirit'sdirection.
And we, we appreciate, uh, justabout ev not just about
everything, everything theApostle Paul, uh, wrote and uh,
his encouragement in Romans5:3-5 says, uh, that, that hope
must ensue through tribulations,uh, knowing that tribulation
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brings perseverance andperseverance.
Proven character and provencharacter.
Hope and, and hope does notdisappoint because the love of
God has been poured out withinthe hearts.
Through the Holy Spirit thathe's given us.
So let our kids see this in us.
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Yeah.
That's it.
That's, that's a legacy Worthleaving.
That's a legacy.
Let if, if they only ever seeChrist in us, you know that's
enough.
Amen.
Yeah.
Legacy isn't measured by what weleave to our children, but it's
measured by what we leave inthem and it's.
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The faith they've seen, tested,it's the forgiveness that
they've watched lived out, andthey've seen a lot of
forgiveness here.
Our kids have seen a lot offorgiveness, and I bet if you
ask them, they would tell youover the course of the last 10
years.
It's been a lot, a lot, a lot.
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But it's also the love that hasremained.
Through it all that speaks theloudest, and I think sometimes
we forget that the story God iswriting through our family isn't
about perfection, but it'sactually about redemption.
Mm-hmm.
That's good.
Yeah.
I mean, every season, everyscar, every turnaround has
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purpose.
When it's surrendered to him,when we give it to him, when we
lay it down at his feet, he canuse it for good.
And when our kids see that, whenthey begin to understand that in
their own walk with him, theybecome to understand that their
walk, their own walk with theLord isn't about striving, but
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it's about abiding with him.
And that's when truetransformation begins.
And that's when generationalfaith really can take root.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
Every generation.
Uh, every generation has tensionbetween, you know, how it was
done and, and how it's currentlydone.
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Uh, fortunately, our, ourcreator father God, remains the
same through generations.
The author of Hebrews, um,really nails down generational
legacy, uh, regardless of timeor circumstances.
He writes, remember who led you,uh, who spoke the word of God to
you?
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And consider the result of theirconduct, imitate their faith.
Jesus Christ is the sameyesterday, today, and for
whatever forever.
Yeah.
We all most likely wanna leave alegacy, uh, that extends through
generation.
And I'll tell you this, JesusChrist is that legacy.
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Yes.
Yes, he absolutely is.
And you know, Psalms 145:3-4says, great as the Lord.
And highly to be praised and hisgreatness is unsearchable.
Yeah.
One generation shall commendyour work to another and shall
declare your mighty acts.
And God expects movement.
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He expects communication of histruth between generations.
So how are you allowing him towork through you?
How does your faith shinethrough to your kids and others
around you?
That's a good, those are acouple good questions to reflect
on.
I was just gonna say, those aresome pretty good questions,
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lady.
We need to reflect on'em.
Yeah.
Put those in the show notes.
They'll be in the show notes.
Right.
How are you allowing him to workthrough you?
Yeah.
How does your faith.
Shine through to your kids andthe others around you.
Yeah.
Oftentimes older generationsfeel unheard and younger
generations feel underestimated.
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Yeah.
And, and in all of this, theenemy thrives and, and the
deafening silence between thetwo generations.
And that si mm-hmm.
That silence creates isolationthat drives a wedge between the
generations.
Uh, but it doesn't have to belike that.
It doesn't have to be this way.
Did you know that your family'senemy.
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Only has the sway that you, thatyou allow him to have.
That's right.
The enemy of our, of our soul,Satan, he only has the sway that
you allow him to have.
And, and also since we're onsome dig, you knows, did you
know that Jesus.
Stripped Satan of all authorityat the cross, and more so when
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he walked outta that tomb, threedays later, he stripped Satan of
all authority.
Did you know that Jesus wasgiven the, the word clearly
states in the word that Jesuswas given all authority in
heaven and on earth from theFather.
Do you know that?
What?
Do you know what he gave?
What, what, what he did with allthat authority?
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He gave it to his believingfollowers.
He gave it to his disciples,saysso in Luke's gospel.
He, he shares his authoritygiven to him from the father.
Uh, and, and, and.
Everywhere in heaven and onearth.
He's got it all.
He's, he's got all the authorityand he's like, I'm gonna give it
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to you.
His believing followers.
Not everyone.
Not everyone that says a, aprayer.
Not everyone who just says, uh,you know, we have to.
We have to be following Jesus.
We have to be honoring the Lord.
Uh, and a, a believing followermeans that, that we are denying
ourselves.
We're picking up our cross andwe're following Jesus.
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We're a disciple.
His, he gave He, this is notedto his first century disciple.
So are you a 21st centurydisciple?
Are you a believing follower ofJesus?
Christ because in Luke, he says,behold.
I have given you all authority.
I have given you the authorityto, to trample on snakes and
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scorpions, and that's, uh,figurative language for the
demonic.
He's given us authority to standagainst all the power of the
enemy, and he says that nothingwill harm you.
So if you're gonna stand on atruth, embrace his authority,
and I would encourage you standon the truth, not a truth, not a
subjective truth, but theobjective truth, the capital T
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truth, the JC truth, JesusChrist.
And embrace his authority andstand firm between your family
and the enemy who seeks todivide you.
Speak truth, believe truth.
Are you with him?
Wow.
You're like wound up.
Are you with him?
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I love it.
Yeah.
You know, unfortunately thoughthe wedge that you mentioned
happens more often than itshould.
It does.
You know, in business, olderleaders clinging to the control.
Out of fear of aging out maybe.
Right.
Or, you know, not having, notthings being done the way that
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they want them to be done.
Right.
And the new generation can rushinto burnout and frustration,
and both of them then lose sightof the proper stewardship that
requires God first.
Right?
So based on our experience whenhe is out in front.
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Relations are vastly moreproductive.
Yeah.
We gotta ask ourselves, who'sreally in control?
Who's really in control, and wehave to yield to his
realization.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
Whether it's in family orbusiness, um, we'll always do
best to yield to him.
Yeah.
That's, that's the, the, he'sreally hit me with that word,
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uh, not just the latter part ofthis year.
Yield.
I think that was really yourword for the year, this year.
Yeah.
Was yield.
Yield.
Yeah.
Yeah.
If, if I, if I don't do anythingelse, I, I must yield, we must
yield to his principles andprecepts.
We must yield to, to his ways.
'cause his ways are alwayshigher and greater than our own.
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You know, and so, so yield, wegotta yield to him in all that
we do and all that we say, and,and, and all in our, in our fam
family and our parenting and ourbusiness practices.
Uh, and these days it's easy toget distracted.
Yeah.
It's easy to not yield.
Uh, that takes focus.
We gotta keep our eyes fixed onthem.
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Uh, if we get tangled up in theliar's distraction, we can find
ourself trying to manage adultchildren instead of mentoring
them.
If we mentor them, we don't needto manage them when they grow
up.
Or we see adult children rerejecting potential mentorship
over resentment, uh, from pastneglect or worse abandonment.
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Hmm.
This, this, uh, abandonment.
This gets me pretty wound up.
I know it does.
Uh, sadly, fathers, um, in thiscountry are abdicating their
responsibilities.
That bears a disgusting, adisgusting statistic of 80%.
Eight out 10 dads walk away fromtheir kids.
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Mm, mm-hmm.
Yeah.
That gets him rolling.
Yeah.
Yeah.
This is not, it gets himrolling.
This is not, this is not anysort of legacy to leave men.
Wake up, stand up and stand firmand, and raise your kids.
Yeah.
Be a dad, not just a father.
Don't be a donor.
Be a father.
Ooh, moving on.
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Zing.
Sorry.
Not sorry.
Uh, 80 percent's a ridiculous,uh mm-hmm.
Generational thing.
Uh, a ridiculous statistic.
It is.
Um, but this didn't happenovernight.
It's a, it's a generationalchallenge.
Uh, this is what happens when weallow society to take God, uh,
uh, from our foundation inChrist.
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Uh, he there.
They rejected the, uh, thestone, the cornerstone.
The cornerstone.
They have rejected thecornerstone.
Mm-hmm.
And, and we need, and this is aresult that 80%, eight outta 10
dads walking away, uh, uh, anepidemic of fatherlessness.
Uh, and, and whatever else.
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Uh, I don't want to get on a, ona complaining tyrant, uh, or,
um, whatever a diatribe.
Diatribe.
That's it.
Yeah.
Uh, but you know, this is whathappens when you take God outta
things.
It is, um, this is what happenswhen you remove Christ as the
cornerstone of our in, in ourfoundation, because he is the
foundation.
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He is the cornerstone.
And, and for builders, you, youput that cornerstone up, you
pour the foundation, you put thecornerstone up first, and then
you build from that and it'slevel and plum.
Yeah.
You know, he's the cornerstone.
So what do we do here?
You know, we're, we're offkilter.
Mm-hmm.
As a society, we can return tohim, we can repent and people
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get freaked out by Repent.
Oh, repent.
Right.
Uh, repentance is nothing morethan than changing our mind and
making that 100 degree, a 180degree turnaround to follow
Jesus.
To make him the Lord of ourlife.
James puts it simply that wemust humble ourselves before the
Lord and he will lift us up.
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Yeah, and humility.
I'd rather be lifted up by theLord and try to elevate myself
Sure.
That that doesn't, that doesn'twork too well.
And it's built on pride and, andpride comes before the fall.
Mm-hmm.
A better way is, is humilitythat leads us to forgiveness and
mm-hmm.
And, uh.
And reconciliation.
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Yeah.
And I, I, I mean, who doesn'tneed that?
Right?
Who doesn't need forgiveness andreconciliation?
I just wanna go back to repentfor a minute because repent
means taking it.
I mean, you said making the 180,but you also have to take it to
the Lord and you have to belike, Lord, I am sorry.
Yeah, I amm, sorry.
And I'm not going to do thisagain.
I'm going to make that 180.
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That's it.
That's it.
That, that's saying it, it ismore than sorry, but what, what
Christ said is See that you are,he's he, yeah.
He told, uh, see that you'rehealed.
Mm-hmm.
Uh, now go and sin no more.
Right.
Right.
And, uh, and that, that's, andthat's, and that takes humility.
And humility is the bridge toreconciliation.
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It is.
So unity between generations,you know, requires courage and.
And the curiosity to curiosityto ask, you know, what can I
learn from them instead of howcan I outperform them or how can
I prove them wrong?
Right.
And I've seen that time and timeagain in business and, and you
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know, other places that I'veworked and it's one thing that I
have wanted to carry intoFreedom Support Solutions and
ACBW with not that sort ofattitude.
Yeah.
Because it's not about that.
I do have something to learnfrom my daughters.
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You know, they have ideas and,and they have good ideas.
Yeah.
And I, the difference betweenthat is what fuels our ambition,
you know?
Is it pride or is it humility?
Is it resentment or is itreconciliation?
Yeah.
And I want it to be humility andreconciliation.
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Absolutely.
You know, absolutely.
I, I'll go on to say that, youknow, through the years we've
walked through a lot as afamily.
A lot again, a lot, a lot.
And we've, you know, we've hadseasons of distance.
We've had healing.
And a lot of grace.
A lot of grace.
And we've learned firsthand.
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Hold on.
Hold on, babe.
Grace.
Grace, yeah.
And we've learned firsthandthat.
You know, reconciliation isalways possible when we lean
into God's ministry ofreconciliation.
Now having our daughters workingalongside me at Freedom Support
Solutions and ACBW, I findmyself really in a new and a
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beautiful season of mentoringthem in business while still
being mom.
Right.
And I'm, I'm still, you know,keeping that bound, trying to
keep that boundary line because,you know.
Sometimes off business hours, Ican start bringing up business.
But I have to say, you know,when they came to me and, and
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they, and they put me online,they're like, mom, they do, it's
not, it's not time to talkbusiness.
Hey, it's family time.
And I'm like, ah, you know what?
You're right.
You're right.
It's not.
So I've been trying to get awhole lot better at that.
But they, like yesterday theycame to me and said, Hey mom,
you wanna get a breakfast?
It was a Saturday.
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Mm-hmm.
And it wasn't a workday.
They weren't asking to go outand, you know, talk about
business.
They just wanted to spend timewith me.
Right.
Although we did end up talkingabout business so that we could,
I could pay for it, but I said,if we can have like a little
business meeting here, then, youknow, even though we had, we had
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mom daughter time too, but youknow, it was good that the
business could pay for it andthey didn't have to, and I
didn't have to, but, you know,but it stretches me in the best
ways, having them working withme.
But here's the truth, it's onlythrough the reconciling work of
Jesus that I'm even able tolead.
To love and to guide them.
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Right.
And to to, to, as they see howyou allow how you are stretched.
Yeah.
They see how they must bestretched as well.
Mm-hmm.
And, and that willingness Yeah.
Flows.
And it's such, it's such a giftto see reconciliation, not just
restore relationships, but alsostrengthen the legacy that we're
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building as, as a family.
Yeah.
Uh, and for me, you know,witnessing the, uh, the
challenges of our past and howour, our, our family's faith and
our love and our forgivenessempowers our lives together is
nothing short of God'sbrilliance.
Yeah.
It's nothing short of God'sbrilliance.
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He's, he's seen us through a lotand I.
I think that we've, uh, no.
I know that we've seen eachother at our worst, uh, but I've
also witnessed each other'sfaith that brought us to today.
Being stronger for the trials.
You know, he, he who knows outthere, who understands out there
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that we, we go through, we'regonna, challenges don't end.
You know, it, it's one challengeafter another and the, the
question isn't.
Why me?
The question is, what are youshowing me here, Lord?
What, what's the teachablemoment in this challenge?
And, and the teachable moment inthe, in the current challenge,
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uh, gets us to the other side ofthat challenge and prepares us
for the next challenge on downthe line.
Yeah.
So, so we've grown through ourtrials, uh, so that we continue
to persevere into and throughthe next trial, uh, together.
He's really brought us together.
And that's what it's all about,learning through the mess so
that we can teach others how hesaw us through the mess.
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Yeah.
That without, without the mess.
There's no message there.
There's a little old, uh, rightadage or recovery adage without
the mess, there's no message.
And there's been some messeshere.
Um, and I, I would just, andwithout the test, there's no
testimony.
There's no testimony.
Right, right.
So I would take it to.
To Proverbs, you know, theydidn't call Solomon the wisest
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one of all time, and, and he waschallenged too, man.
Get in the word man.
Solomon wasn't perfect, but heknew enough when, when the a
when when he was asked what hewanted from the Lord, he, uh, he
asked for wisdom.
And, and he and he, there is alegacy.
He's passed that wisdom onto us.
And right now we're gonna pullit from Proverbs 3:5-6, which
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simply says, trust in the Lordwith all of your heart.
Lean not on your ownunderstanding, but in all your
ways, acknowledge.
Him and he will make your pathsstraight.
Yeah, exactly.
Exactly.
Faith stretches us all andempowers us to grow together.
Yeah.
I learned that growth doesn'thappen in our comfort zones.
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Did you know that?
Faith, you know, yeah.
Growth does not really happen inour comfort zones.
It happens in the stretch, andif we're not being stretched,
we're not growing, and sometimesthat's fucked.
And sometimes they'restretching, meaning my
daughter's stretching.
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Or you can put it in perspectiveof any children, um, requires my
silence.
And that's hard.
But it required my silence as wehoped, and we trusted in God's
timing, not in my timing.
You know, like we said before,you know, we want things now,
you know, but his hope doesn'tever disappoint.
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And his timing is always righton time.
That's a, that's a, and what'smore is that these, uh, these
fine ladies are now as, as we'vegrown together, as they've been
mentored.
Well, um.
Through all the reconciliation.
They are currently drivenChristian business, women
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mm-hmm.
Who add fresh creativity, newsystemic opportunities and ideas
that have strengthened thecompany for sure.
It is brilliant.
Yeah.
To I just brilliant to observe.
Mm-hmm.
Um, that's what generate, that'sgenerational partnership and
action.
Uh, and uh, under.
Under and in his authority byand in the name of Jesus Christ.
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And what I love about, um, and,and it sounds cliche to some
and, and whatever on cliche,and, and I get a little bothered
by cliche sometimes, but this,but what my point is here is
that, that you and the girlshave absolutely made, uh.
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Jesus Christ, the CEO of FreedomSupport Solutions and American,
or, uh, I wanna always sayAmerican Christian Business
Women Association.
We are American Christianbusiness women, but it's
association of Christianbusiness women.
Right.
He is the CEO.
He's, he's the COO.
He, he's the mm-hmm.
He is the, the alpha, the omega.
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Yeah.
You know, and you know, it'shumbling though, because as
parents we admittedly.
Face planted often through theyears.
Yeah.
You know that.
Yeah.
That, yeah.
That's face planning.
Yeah.
And, but through it all, I mean,God's grace is more sufficient
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and has seen us through to todaywhere we, where we can now all
believe that the best is yet tocome.
Yeah.
And it's humbling to havetrusted God, to build us to
hear.
So that we can trust him fromhere to stretch us, to keep
building his purpose, to leavein our daughter's hands.
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Yeah.
Yeah.
I was, uh, I mean, and maybeeven in our son's hands, who
knows what he's gonna do afterthe Navy.
I mean, who knows?
Hard to tell him, but.
He is, they're all prettyspecial.
Yeah.
Not pretty special.
They're all super special.
They are.
Uh, but I, the, I rememberhearing our, our, some of our
original marriage mentors, Dickand Brenda Smith.
Mm-hmm.
And the, uh, I remember beingin, uh, just being really in, in
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the, in the challenge and, and,uh, as faith was growing and,
and Dick is like, the best isyet to come, and I'd be like,
mm-hmm.
Whatever dude.
And, but, and now, now I'm thatguy.
The best is yet to come.
And we, and we believe it.
I don't say it.
So yeah.
So that's what we tell our, our,our friends, our brothers and
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sisters in recovery, uh, on thelife speaking declarations
'cause.
That's what he was doing.
That's what the word says.
It says, the best is yet tocome.
As we trust in Jesus, the thebest is yet to come.
He has, uh, the abundant lifefor us more than we could ever
ask or imagine.
Uh, and, uh, so we, we encourageour friends or brothers and
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sisters to, if you don't, if youdon't believe that biblical.
Uh, life speaking declaration.
Mm-hmm.
Speak it out anyway.
That's right.
Be speak it out over yourselvesand others.
Speak it, put it on yourmirrors, put it on your
dashboard.
Put it on your refrigerator andkeep saying it.
Mm-hmm.
Until it comes true.
'cause I'm telling you what Iwas adverse to.
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The best is yet to come, but Iwould tell you right here, right
now, we're living it.
Mm-hmm.
And the best is yet to come.
Yeah.
All right.
Do you believe it?
Yeah.
So.
It's, uh, it's been great to,uh, to watch'em grow and to
that, and, and, and that theybelieve the best is yet to come.
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Yeah.
Uh, so my question is, is, um,who do you, who do you look up
to?
Who's mentoring you?
'cause we all need mentors,right?
We all need mentors.
'cause you know, the, the.
The older needs to mentor theyounger, uh,'cause the younger's
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got passion.
But passion without wisdom burnsout quick, you know?
And, uh, so we hope that, uh,when, when you're answering the
question, who are you mentoringor who are you being mentored
by?
We hope that your answer firstand foremost is Jesus Christ.
Right?
'cause he, there is one person,uh, one.
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Well person, the God man.
Mm-hmm.
The cool thing about Jesus ishe's 200% right.
He was a hundred.
He was a hundred percent man anda hundred percent God.
Yeah.
Uh, so he's the only one everwho won't steer you wrong.
That's right.
He'll never let you down.
That's right.
You know, generationalreconciliation requires us to
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release and receive.
We must release the past lies,and we talk about this in
unbound all the time.
You know, releasing the pastlies and turmoil so that we can
receive his truth and embraceour forward facing freedom
together.
And just the same passing thebaton requires us to release and
receive.
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Our generation must release, wehave to release.
What we've learned.
Yeah.
To the next.
And the next must respectfullyreceive their proven wisdom so
that they can carry ongeneration to generation to
generation.
That's it.
That's it.
So we got, that's what Legacy'sall about.
It is.
That's what Legacy's all about.
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So we got five Kingdomprinciples.
We always.
As we're winding down, we alwayshave some solutions that we like
to leave you with.
And we got five today.
Yeah.
And, and the first one is honorMust flow both ways.
Absolutely.
Honor is absolutely essential.
It isn't earned.
It is given.
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And we must honor God first andas he leads us.
When we honor him first, he willlead us to honor others through
our generation, which opens thedoor for his generational
blessings, right?
We have to honor up and we haveto honor down, and we have to
honor all around.
That's it.
That's it.
Up, down, all around, right?
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And honoring God first.
I, uh, that's, that's.
It's key first.
It is key.
Mm-hmm.
You know, honor means respectfulacknowledgement.
Mm-hmm.
Honor recognizes that each oneof us are created in God's
image.
Let me say that again.
Honor.
When we honor someone, werecognize that every one of us,
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whether you believe it or not,the truth is that we are created
in his image.
Yeah.
And in such reverence.
Uh, the older generation blessesthe younger publicly, while the
younger generation honors theolder privately and consistently
for sure.
Our second one is communicationmust be intentional.
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You know, generational unitydies in assumptions, so we have
to talk and I mean, really talk.
And in our family and businessmeetings, we've learned to pause
and ask, tell me what you'veheard.
Not just, did you hear me right,but tell me what you heard
instead of assuming clarity.
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Yeah.
Yeah.
Did you hear me?
Did you hear me?
Did you hear me?
That's that, that's a little,that can be, uh, um.
All right.
Can be, anyway.
I don't know what I was gonnasay though.
Okay.
Disregard.
Um, so disrespectful.
Perhaps it could bedisrespectful.
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No confrontational con.
Oh yes, there you go.
Confrontational.
Could be confrontational.
Yeah.
But, uh, but tell me what youheard.
Right.
You know,'cause sometimes, and,and that, that sometimes between
you and I, sometimes somethingI'll say, you know, I, I thought
it was clear, but, you know, youresponded differently than I
expected.
And I'm like, ah.
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What, how did you understandthat?
And vice versa too, you know?
So it's important.
That's a great question to add.
Tell me what you heard.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, so we, we've learned over,over time and also another
lesson from, from my man DickSmith.
You know, he told me he got twoears and one mouth for a reason,
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so we can listen twice as muchas as we speak, right?
And we've learned over time.
Uh, and, and business and, and,and at home.
That, that listening is thebetter part of communication.
Uh, it's so important for us tolisten without defensiveness.
You know, I like back toSolomon.
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Solomon 18:13 says, you meanProverbs 18:13?
Did I say, what'd I say?
You said Solomon.
Solomon, Solomon.
18:13.
He wrote it right?
What's the matter with that?
Jack?
Uh, pro proverbs, Solomon'sProverbs 18:13 says to answer
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before listening is folly andshame.
Mm.
Yeah.
So don't do that.
Don't be that guy.
Generational listening takesdiscipline.
Uh, and it builds trust over thelong run.
Right.
And we want the long run.
Yeah.
As from one generation to thenext.
So.
Yeah.
And our third would beempowerment.
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Must replace control.
So you can't say you trustsomeone and micromanage them.
And this has been a pet peeve ofmine for many, many, many years
as an employee.
You know, coming, I wasn'talways, I, I was always an
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entrepreneur from the time I was10 years old, but I wasn't
always like the.
I wasn't always, you know, Ididn't, I wasn't always the
boss.
Right.
Right.
That's what I'm trying to say.
Right.
Spit it out later.
I, I was working for otherpeople and it drove me crazy.
You, you tell me that you wantme to do something and you trust
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me to do it, but then you,you're trying to micromanage me
and keep me under your thumb.
Right.
You can't say you trust someoneand micromanage them.
There's absolutely no faith inthat.
Yeah.
Uh, let them try, right?
Let them lead and maybe even letthem make a few mistakes.
Sure.
But be there to field theirquestions.
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But if you're gonna actuallytrust someone to do something,
let them do it.
And that's how wisdom and solidbuild a solid business.
Um.
Relations are formed.
Yeah, absolutely.
I think that's why, uh, I do sowell in the position I'm in now
is that I'm not micromanaged.
Right.
Uh, they, this is what the, thisis what the position requires.
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Uh, do that.
Yeah.
And, and I mean, if you're notdoing that, if I'm not doing
that, I expect to be called outon it.
Yeah.
But there's, there's, there's nonot doing that here.
Wouldn't you say though, thatthe generation prior to ours,
like.
They, they were huge atmicromanaging on micro, and I
know there are still some nowtoo, but Yeah.
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But I would say that generation,oh, I've been micromanaged.
Yeah.
You know, and, uh, yeah.
So, and it's not ever pleasant.
No.
So it's not no faith there.
Right.
But, uh, so I th what I thinkthere is that, uh, control
protects comfort.
Mm, that's very true.
Yeah.
But empowerment producescapacity, and that's what we're
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looking for.
Whoa.
Can you say that again?
Yeah.
And, uh, only if you promise toput it in the show notes.
Anyway, it'll be in the shownotes.
Control protects comfort,control, protect.
She's turning the, turning it upon me.
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Right.
Control protects comfort whileempowerment.
Produces capacity.
And capacity is what multiplieslegacy.
Oh, that's really good.
Yeah.
Write that down.
Yeah.
You can quote scripture all day.
Oh, but well, let me, I wanna,and we do mo most days.
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Yeah.
There's nothing wrong with that,but, but faith must be lived
out, not just taught.
Yeah.
So that's number four.
Faith must be lived out, notjust taught.
Because if you're quotingscripture all day, every day,
your children and your teams arelearning more from how you
handle conflict.
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Yeah.
Than from what you post online.
Right.
So we can, you know, we can tellyou, it goes back to the old
adage, do what I say, not as Ido.
Yeah.
Don't you know, which I used toget.
Don't, don't be.
That guy used to get told to.
Um, but.
It's gonna, it goes back to morebeing caught than taught.
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Yeah.
Isn't that that do, as I say,not as I do.
Isn't that like the, uh, uh, adefinition of hypocrisy?
Yeah.
I, I would say so.
Yes.
Yeah.
Yes.
Don't be that guy.
Right?
All right.
Yeah.
Don't be that person.
So, so, uh, our kids need to seeour humility.
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Mm-hmm.
Right?
Pride's rampant.
Mm-hmm.
So I think our, our kids, ournext generation, our coworkers,
each other, uh, we need toexhibit that humility, uh, in
our, in our repentance.
We can't, we cannot shy awayfrom repentance.
Repentance, uh, for Christianshould, I mean, we're, we're not
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perfect.
Mm-hmm.
He, he doesn't make us perfect.
He just reconciles us before thefather.
Yes.
Uh, and as we, uh.
As we walk, we will fall, butwhen we get back up, we, we, we
must repent on that.
Mm-hmm.
Which is, uh, which is Lord.
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I apologize for that, and I'mnot gonna do that no more.
I'm gonna, I'm gonna make thatturn.
I'm gonna release that.
Uh, thank you for forgiving me.
Uh, and, uh, and we're gonna,I'm gonna walk this way now.
Yeah.
All right.
It's a lesson learned, right?
And, uh, and a realignment.
Uh, they should see that they,they, they need to see the
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humility and repentance.
Mm-hmm.
Uh, they need to see consistencyin our devotion.
Uh, this genera, the nextgeneration needs to see the
gratitude for our blessings.
Oh yeah.
Gratitude is huge.
Gratitude changes perspectivenearly instantly.
Mm-hmm.
You know, and if you're not, ifyou're not expressing gratitude,
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uh, then I would encourage youto sit down and write three
things that you're grateful for.
Yeah.
'cause everybody's gotsomething, right.
Uh.
Because they're gonna rememberthat far longer than they're
gonna remember a sermon.
Right.
You know, or just throwing outscripture without explanation,
you know?
Or, or if we're throwing outscripture and we're not actually
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living it, man, there's somehypocrisy.
Right.
And that'll be, that'll becaught.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
So, and we don't want that.
But, um, anyway.
Yeah.
Caught more caught than taught.
So, yeah.
I mean, when faith is modeled.
It not mandated.
Yeah.
It transfers really well.
Yeah, I know.
I remember my mom said, and it,and it just popped in my head.
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Mom used to say, a Alec actionsspeak louder than words.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
And I'm like, all day, everyday.
Okay.
All day, every day.
Yeah.
The fifth one is purpose muststay kingdom centered.
Kingdom centered.
Kingdom centered, my goodness.
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Absolutely.
You know, every generationwrestles with this, uh, the
temptation to make it about mylegacy instead of.
His legacy.
Yeah.
But, uh, kingdom there as we, asChristians, we're to advance the
kingdom or to build a kingdom orto, to, uh, come into agreement
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for the kingdom.
Uh, so it's never about keepingour name, uh, alive.
It's about lifting his namehigh.
Amen.
Uh, again, uh, we gotta humbleourselves before the Lord.
Are you, are you tired of thatverse yet?
Because here it comes again.
We gotta humble ourselves beforethe Lord and he will exalt us.
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He will lift us up and.
I think I said this before, I'drather be lifted, uh, lifted up
by the Lord than lifted up bymyself or someone else.
Right.
We gotta be, gotta be aware ofthat flattery, you know, and the
battle.
That's a, that can be deception.
Yeah.
And it can build pride and.
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It's always important toremember that pride comes before
the fall anywhere in scripture.
Pride doesn't bear a ne, italways bears a negative
connotation.
Yeah.
And it, and it, and it's, youknow, from Psalms to Proverbs
to, to James Pride comes beforethe fall.
Yeah.
And when we, but when we alignon his purpose.
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Style differences, stop dividingus.
So the old generation bringswisdom that guards the mission
and the younger bringsinnovation that carry it
forward.
And I can tell you thatfirsthand for me, um, that when
I allowed them to bring theinnovation, it brought unity.
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Yeah.
Because they've got great ideas.
Don't just count the ideas thatthey have.
Yeah.
You may not go with everythingthat they have.
But at least hear them out andhear what their thoughts are.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They, uh, and I think we canlook at our daughters and
realize that they're carryingthings that I once prayed for.
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Yeah, that's cool.
They, they're carryinginfluence.
They're carrying impact.
They're carrying opportunity.
And, but it's all happeningbecause of their unique
expression.
Absolutely.
And that's what legacy's allabout abs.
Yeah, for sure.
That's legacy.
Mm-hmm.
That's saying well done.
Yeah.
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And, uh, let's keep moving.
'cause the work, the, the workand the legacy builds, you know,
and we, and it, and it movesforward.
It's like we mentioned in, inthe beginning of this.
Uh, episode is that he, uh, webuilt it with this generation
and to generation.
To generation to generation.
Mm-hmm.
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And, uh, and we've done, we'vedone well, you've done really
well here.
Yeah.
And they're doing really well.
It's like, it's, uh, watchingGod's, uh.
Answer, answering prayers, uh,through someone else's
obedience.
Yeah.
You've been obedient and, uh,and I've, I've, I've heard your
prayers.
I've watched your prayers and,uh, and you've been, you've been
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obedient to what, how he'sinstructed you.
And it, it's just watching allthat come to fruition, it's
pretty sweet.
Well, it's a reminder thatlegacy doesn't just live in
bloodlines.
It lives in every person thatwe've poured into.
Yeah.
In our teams, not all of our,not all of my employees are.
Not all of my employees are mychildren.
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Right.
Um, so it pours out into ourteams, into our clients, into
our community, and each onerepresents a piece of the baton
that God has asked us to carry.
Yeah.
And you might drop the baton,but I think maybe you said
earlier, it's not, it's not howmany times you drop the baton.
It's how many times.
How many times it up, you pickit back up and run.
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That's right.
Run.
You know, and, uh.
Run the race before us.
Mm-hmm.
You know, and, uh, yeah.
Yeah.
It's not how we, it's not, yeah.
It's not the fall that definesus, it's how we get back up and
keep moving forward.
Yeah.
And who we follow, uh, throughthe race that defines us.
Mm-hmm.
So maybe you're listening today,um, and you say, I don't have
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kids.
Yeah.
So we would ask you, do you haveinfluence.
Where's your influence at?
Uh, there's always someonethat's watching your faith and
learning from your consistencyor your inconsistency.
Mm-hmm.
So who's your next generation?
Yeah.
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So let's talk about what itlooks like in practice.
I mean, maybe you're a businessowner like me.
Um, start by inviting youryounger team members into the
why behind what you do.
Make sure they know the whybehind what you do, and don't
just assign tasks, but actuallyshare the vision that you have
so that they can roll with thatvision as they move forward.
(52:30):
Yeah, sure.
And the team needs to know thevision.
Yeah, absolutely.
And if you're a parent of adultchildren, do your very best.
To resist the urge to consist tocorrect every decision they
make.
Uh, it's important to pray moreand advise less, and always
encourage and love them rightwhere they are.
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Hmm.
Encourage them through thetrials.
Love them through the trials,uh, for who they are, uh,
because.
Every one of us is made in God'simage.
Mm-hmm.
Uh, and it's important tounderstand that, that God's
still writing our story and he'sstill writing their story as
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well.
Yeah.
And you're a part of that story.
That's right.
And if you're the youngergeneration, take initiative and
be intentional.
Don't, don't wait to be invited.
Don't wait until someone asksyou to do something.
Step up to the plate and say,Hey, why don't I take care of
that for you?
I love it when one of the girlssays.
Hey, let me take care of thatfor you.
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Yeah.
Because I have so much on myplate, and you never know what a
blessing that's going to be tosomeone.
So, so don't wait to be invited.
Um, ask questions.
Honor, honor the sacrifices thatbuilt what you're stepping into,
because trust me, there weresacrifices that were.
To build that business and thathumility, it opens doors faster
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than ambition ever will.
Yeah, absolutely.
And what about ministry?
If you're in ministry, beintentional about mentorship.
Legacy doesn't happen at thepulpit.
It happens in the hallway.
Uh, when somebody older takestime and they pause long enough
to pour wisdom into.
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That younger generation.
Exactly.
That's, that's how we buildlegacy.
Exactly.
Legacy isn't just about a fewmoments.
It's about a lifestyle ofteaching, trusting and
testifying.
Mm-hmm.
And I, I, I think there's a goodparallel here with Elijah and
Eisha.
Oh yeah.
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Uh, uh what a mentorship thatwas right.
Elijah knew how to mentor andYeah.
Elijah and Elisha and, uh.
Yeah, it was, uh, I, uh, I thinkthat, um, yeah, they, uh, that
was powerful.
Uh, when Elijah.
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As, as the, uh, he was apowerful prophet.
Mm-hmm.
Uh, he didn't wait until, uh,his final breath to pour into.
Right.
Elijah, he invited him to walkbeside him.
Uh, he, uh, he invited him towitness, to learn and to grow
with him.
Yeah.
Beside, and, and Jesus did thesame thing, right.
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Uh, with, I mean, he, they didlife together.
Right.
That.
Yeah.
And that proximity createdpreparation.
Yeah.
So when the mantle fell, finallyfell, Elisha was ready.
Not because of a ing, notbecause of one moment, not
because it was, oh, okay.
That's, that time has come forthe mantle to fall.
Mm-hmm.
But it's because of theconsistent mentorship.
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That he received.
Absolutely.
And we can't expect a doubleportion impact without a double
portion investment.
Mm-hmm.
Right.
Yeah.
So Unity Unity's costly.
Uh, but the harvest that itproduces is generational for
sure.
So if you're listening right nowand you're realizing that
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there's maybe a relationshipthat needs mending, perhaps it's
between generation gengenerations in your family, or
maybe it's in your team, ask theLord to show you where pride or
fear has created distance,because you can be guaranteed.
It's one of those two pride andfear, and they go hand in hand.
They do.
They do.
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And then we'd encourage you totake one humble step.
Mm-hmm.
Humility over pride.
Every time.
Be the first you make the phonecall, you send the text, you set
the meeting.
Yeah.
Legacy always starts withreconciliation.
Is there someone you need toreconcile with today?
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Make that call.
Yeah.
Because when we humbleourselves, God restores
relations between generations.
You know, maybe it's a childthat has gone away.
Maybe it's a team member who'sdisappointed with what's
happening in business right nowwith them, but he removes the
wedge and he heals what distancehas damaged.
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It's powerful when you humbleyourself and allow God to make
that restoration.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
Let's recap here.
We got five recap points.
Yeah.
And they're really good.
So grab your paper, write'emdown unless you're driving and
don't do that.
Just come back and listen later.
Don't be that guy, right?
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Or gal.
Uh, so, uh, or.
Our, uh, wrap up points is thatevery generation has something
to give and something toreceive.
Yes.
And honor builds bridges whereage gaps create divides, right?
And legacy is built when faithis lived and passed to our next
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generation.
Our fourth one is empowermentsustains what Control destroys.
Big one.
That's a big one.
Big one.
They're all good.
But I really like that one.
Yeah.
Uh, the baton of faith.
Uh, five.
Last but not least, the baton offaith is passed through
reconciliation andrelationships.
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Yeah.
And, and reconciliation is,there will be disagreements,
but, and, and if we're gonnahave solid, uh, family and
business relationships, theremust be reconciliation.
Yeah.
So as we close down, as we'rewrapping up today, let's, let's
take a moment.
Just take a moment with us and,and picture the people who
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invested in you, who, the, yourparents, your pastors, your
mentors, your teachers, you knowwho they are.
They're, they're, they're rightthere at the forefront, right,
right there at your prefrontalcortex, right?
They're, they're right there.
Uh, you, you see'em?
Now, now, now, picture thepeople that you are called to
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invest next and.
The people who invested in youand who you will invest in.
That's the flow of Kingdomlegacy.
Right.
And it doesn't requireperfection.
It only requires faithfulness.
Yeah.
So be willing to receive, torelease, and to run your leg of
the race with excellence.
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Absolutely.
Because when one generationfinishes well, the next begins
stronger.
Yes.
So.
Let's be found faithful, notonly in what we build, but in
how we pass it on.
Yeah.
Passing that baton to the nextgeneration.
So if this episode encouragedyou, share it with a friend.
Share it with someone that youknow may need to hear what?
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Hear this, right?
Share it with your children.
Share it with absolutely yourteam members.
Whoever the Lord leads you toshare it with, share it with
them, and don't forget tosubscribe.
That's right.
And remember.
Yep.
Go ahead babe.
When we invest in the kingdom,we can trust and believe that he
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will bring the increase.
Every time.
Every time.
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Welcome back to FaithfullyInvested.
I am Stacy Jo, and I am, I'm notStacy Jo.
I'm Allen.
No, thank you.
You are Allen.
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That's an A.
Two Ls and an N.
Right?
Right.
Not the A LAN.
That's just wrong.
Right.
Anyway, sorry guys.
Anyhow, today we are leaninginto a topic that speaks to
legacy leadership and the heartof the kingdom.
We're talking about generation,generational unity and passing
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the baton.
Well, yeah, you gotta pass it.
Well, yeah.
'cause if you're not passing itwell, you know, you're dropping
it, you're dropping it.
That's it.
You know, I've dropped a fewbatons in my time, but, uh,
anyways, are we all thisconversation Yeah.
It's not the drop in of thebaton, it's how well we pick it
back up and run.
That's right, that's right.
Um, the con this conversationmatters to us personally.
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Um,'cause.
As I, I was, I was inserted, uh,about midway through the, the
kids youth.
And, uh, even as I was, youknow, we, we've done our best,
uh, through challengingcircumstances to raise four kids
who are all grown now.
Uh, one daughter lives outtastate, uh, our son.
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Uh, is in the Navy in Washingtonstate, and, uh, two of our
daughters live here, uh, andwork alongside Stacy Jo and, uh,
Freedom Support Solutions andthe Association of Christian
Business Women.
Very successful businesses.
Well, just to clarify, all ofour girls work with me, but one
just works part-time and worksremotely from outta state.
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Right.
But, but that dynamic brings.
Both joy and challenges.
So when you work with your adultkids, you're not just building a
business, you're actuallyshaping a legacy.
And we've learned that passingthe baton isn't a one-time
event.
It's a daily choice to lead withhumility and live with a loving
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perspective.
Yeah, a daily choice, I thinkreally key.
A daily choice key.
That's the key there.
We gotta, yeah, for sure.
We gotta choose, uh.
Choose love daily, choose.
Mm-hmm.
Uh, you know, gotta followChrist Daily.
That's right.
And that, that's, uh, that'swhat it really comes down to.
Uh, it's about realizing God'svision.
Uh, it's always generational.
His, his, uh, what he startswith one of us, he intends to
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continue through the nextgeneration and, and so on and so
forth.
And a great place to start.
Just about anywhere, but agreat, uh, so, but we're gonna
start here.
Mm-hmm.
Uh, is gratitude.
Yeah, gratitude's always a greatplace to start.
Um, our umbrella company,grateful Hearts.
Yeah.
Uh, man, I'm telling you that,uh, a Grateful Heart is, uh, is
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a great place to start from.
It does so gratitude is it, uh,regardless of our circumstances,
we all have something to begrateful for.
Psalmss 100 (03:49):
5-6 declares for us to enter his gates with
thanksgiving and his courtswould praise.
I give thanks to him.
Bless his name.
For the Lord is good.
Yeah.
His loving kindness iseverlasting and is faithful and
he, he is faithful to allgenerations.
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How many generations?
All generations.
Generations.
Yeah.
You know the Hebrew, uh.
A Hebrew word for that meansall.
All.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Not some.
All generations.
All generations moving on.
Yeah.
I think every leader eventuallycomes to that moment of
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awareness where they're like,this can't end with me.
Yeah.
And as Christ followers, ourfamilies are a wholly
responsibility, and we muststeward that well.
And regardless of whether theywork for you or not.
Yeah.
But we must steward it.
Well, you're either gonna cometo the awareness or you're gonna
come to the awkwardness.
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Very good.
You know, so that's so true's.
You gotta be aware.
Mm-hmm.
And, uh, if we, if you wannapass it on, and quite honestly,
I, I dropped the ball early onmore times than I care to
mention, you know?
And, uh, and that's all right.
'cause it's, mm-hmm.
Uh, it was, it was highlychallenging back then.
I was highly challenging backthen.
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And, uh.
Uh, those circumstances affectedour kids' identity, uh, and
relationship with the Lord.
However, um.
He informed me.
He, he's informed us, uh,through prayer as we do, we, I
mean, y'all pray for your kids,right?
You pray over your kids, and,uh, and if, and if you don't
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pray for your kids, yeah.
Pray for your kids.
'cause through prayer, uh, over,over time, he's informed us that
he has'em all and they all willreturn to him.
Mm-hmm.
Uh, so we stand on his declaredrhema word.
Um, people might be like, what'sa rhema word?
Right.
Uh, the rhema word first, the,the, uh, the logos word is, is
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the Bible.
God's written word is the logosword, uh, and the rhema word,
it's, it's R-H-E-M-A.
And the rhema word is as wepray.
Uh, and in this case, as we prayover and for our children, the
word that we get back from thespirit, uh, is that, uh, that's
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the rhema word, the, theinformation, the truth mm-hmm.
That we receive from the HolySpirit, uh, in our quiet time.
Uh, it's what he says.
Uh, in our prayer.
'cause as we, we, as we pray,uh, with, uh, as we pray, we,
it's not just requests, youknow?
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Right.
It's not just speaking.
Uh, the greater part ofcommunication, uh, is, is
listening.
Mm-hmm.
And communication is key torelationship.
So if we're, if we're gonna havea strong relationship with the
Lord, um.
Not only should we speak less,we should listen more.
Mm-hmm.
And as we're listening, what hesays to us as, as, as, yeah.
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As we're listening is that's theRhema word.
Yeah.
Uh, I hope that makes sense.
Right.
Um, yeah.
So, uh, so through the Rhemaword, he said that they're, uh,
all of her kids are, arereturning to him.
Yes.
They, they've had challenges,uh.
Won't go into the challenges,uh, but Right.
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You know, they, they kinda rodeour coattails and kind of
mm-hmm.
Kind of went through the motionsand kind of, uh, just.
They rode, uh, rode the wave ofour faith, right?
Which was, uh, quite honestly,back in those days was, was, uh,
growing and, uh, sketchy at thetime.
My, at least mine was, I, I canspeak to that.
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I was, I was in and out and Ilike to, I, I, I don't like to
say, but I have said, uh, inthose days as I was, uh, coming
out of addiction, uh, was, uh, Isprinkled a little Jesus on my
otherwise drunken existence.
Uh, so it was, it waschallenging, but.
Uh, he has, uh, informed us.
The, the, the Lord's informed usthat, uh, they're all coming
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back.
They're back.
He's got'em all.
Uh, because we, we don't everlose our salvation.
Right.
We don't lose our salvation.
So, and, and if someone told youthat you lose your salvation,
then pack your step and get outof there.
'cause that's a lie.
Uh, we don't lose our salvation.
So, but we started to witnessthem coming back.
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Yeah.
In, yeah.
And that's a, that was ablessing.
It was an absolute joy towitness them.
Yeah.
Coming back into their ownrelationship mm-hmm.
With God, uh, as each one ofthem, uh, stepped into their own
callings in his timing, not ourtiming.
You know, we want everythingnow.
You know, bring'em back now,Lord.
How about it?
Right.
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You know?
Uh, so, but it's so cool towatch him come back and, uh, and
be healed and be reconciled and,uh.
Just move into their owncallings in his timing.
Mm-hmm.
And, um, only, it's only becauseof him, uh, that they think
differently.
They lead differently than thanever before because they believe
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and that's it.
That's it.
They believe and they walk inhis love.
Therefore, they carrytransformed hearts.
For his kingdom.
Yeah.
And that's, and that's thebeauty of generational unity.
It's not about duplication, butit's actually about impartation.
Yeah.
And the greatest service that wecan do for any of our kids is to
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display the love of the fatherthrough Jesus.
Right.
You know, we believe that it istrue for kids of any age that
what they take away from ourhome is more caught than taught.
It's proven.
Yeah.
And lead.
So just lead in love always.
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It's the best thing you can do.
Lead in love.
Lead in love.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
And we've learned this throughmany life lessons and, uh, how
many of you know that, uh, ourgreatest life lessons are
learned from our greatestmistakes?
Yeah, me.
I know.
Truth, truth.
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Um, but through it all, um, I'vementioned this before, I, I've
dropped a lot of balls, but, um,I also learned that it's not the
falling down that defines me.
It's not the, that's right.
Any of us.
It's not the falling down thatdefines any of us.
It's, it's how we get back upand who we follow or who we
decide to follow.
And that that's what defines us.
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Oftentimes forward progress isreleasing the lie.
We gotta, we gotta release thelie so we can receive the truth
and as we release the lie.
Uh, that success, uh, one of,one of the biggest lies we gotta
release is that, that successequals control.
Oh, right.
Yeah.
Uh, yeah.
That's a lot that there might bea challenge if, if we're trying
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to control the situation.
'cause regardless of what wethink we're, we're not in
control.
Mm-hmm.
Uh, God's always, always hasbeen, always will be in control.
And I, I don't believe that thattrue success ever means
perfection, but.
That through the trials that ourkids witness our perseverant
faith as an example, so thatthey'll go forward, uh, and
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they'll thrive without ourconstant direction.
Uh, but, but that they would,that, that they would see how we
have come to rely on the HolySpirit's direction so that they
will, uh.
Be inspired or like, like youmentioned, they, they will have
caught that more.
More.
Yeah.
There's more caught than taughtand so they will consistently
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rely on the Holy Spirit'sdirection.
And we, we appreciate, uh, justabout ev not just about
everything, everything theApostle Paul, uh, wrote and uh,
his encouragement in Romans5:3-5 says, uh, that, that hope
must ensue through tribulations,uh, knowing that tribulation
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brings perseverance andperseverance.
Proven character and provencharacter.
Hope and, and hope does notdisappoint because the love of
God has been poured out withinthe hearts.
Through the Holy Spirit thathe's given us.
So let our kids see this in us.
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Yeah.
That's it.
That's, that's a legacy Worthleaving.
That's a legacy.
Let if, if they only ever seeChrist in us, you know that's
enough.
Amen.
Yeah.
Legacy isn't measured by what weleave to our children, but it's
measured by what we leave inthem and it's.
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The faith they've seen, tested,it's the forgiveness that
they've watched lived out, andthey've seen a lot of
forgiveness here.
Our kids have seen a lot offorgiveness, and I bet if you
ask them, they would tell youover the course of the last 10
years.
It's been a lot, a lot, a lot.
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But it's also the love that hasremained.
Through it all that speaks theloudest, and I think sometimes
we forget that the story God iswriting through our family isn't
about perfection, but it'sactually about redemption.
Mm-hmm.
That's good.
Yeah.
I mean, every season, everyscar, every turnaround has
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purpose.
When it's surrendered to him,when we give it to him, when we
lay it down at his feet, he canuse it for good.
And when our kids see that, whenthey begin to understand that in
their own walk with him, theybecome to understand that their
walk, their own walk with theLord isn't about striving, but
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it's about abiding with him.
And that's when truetransformation begins.
And that's when generationalfaith really can take root.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
Every generation.
Uh, every generation has tensionbetween, you know, how it was
done and, and how it's currentlydone.
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Uh, fortunately, our, ourcreator father God, remains the
same through generations.
The author of Hebrews, um,really nails down generational
legacy, uh, regardless of timeor circumstances.
He writes, remember who led you,uh, who spoke the word of God to
you?
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And consider the result of theirconduct, imitate their faith.
Jesus Christ is the sameyesterday, today, and for
whatever forever.
Yeah.
We all most likely wanna leave alegacy, uh, that extends through
generation.
And I'll tell you this, JesusChrist is that legacy.
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Yes.
Yes, he absolutely is.
And you know, Psalms 145:3-4says, great as the Lord.
And highly to be praised and hisgreatness is unsearchable.
Yeah.
One generation shall commendyour work to another and shall
declare your mighty acts.
And God expects movement.
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He expects communication of histruth between generations.
So how are you allowing him towork through you?
How does your faith shinethrough to your kids and others
around you?
That's a good, those are acouple good questions to reflect
on.
I was just gonna say, those aresome pretty good questions,
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lady.
We need to reflect on'em.
Yeah.
Put those in the show notes.
They'll be in the show notes.
Right.
How are you allowing him to workthrough you?
Yeah.
How does your faith.
Shine through to your kids andthe others around you.
Yeah.
Oftentimes older generationsfeel unheard and younger
generations feel underestimated.
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Yeah.
And, and in all of this, theenemy thrives and, and the
deafening silence between thetwo generations.
And that si mm-hmm.
That silence creates isolationthat drives a wedge between the
generations.
Uh, but it doesn't have to belike that.
It doesn't have to be this way.
Did you know that your family'senemy.
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Only has the sway that you, thatyou allow him to have.
That's right.
The enemy of our, of our soul,Satan, he only has the sway that
you allow him to have.
And, and also since we're onsome dig, you knows, did you
know that Jesus.
Stripped Satan of all authorityat the cross, and more so when
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he walked outta that tomb, threedays later, he stripped Satan of
all authority.
Did you know that Jesus wasgiven the, the word clearly
states in the word that Jesuswas given all authority in
heaven and on earth from theFather.
Do you know that?
What?
Do you know what he gave?
What, what, what he did with allthat authority?
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He gave it to his believingfollowers.
He gave it to his disciples,saysso in Luke's gospel.
He, he shares his authoritygiven to him from the father.
Uh, and, and, and.
Everywhere in heaven and onearth.
He's got it all.
He's, he's got all the authorityand he's like, I'm gonna give it
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to you.
His believing followers.
Not everyone.
Not everyone that says a, aprayer.
Not everyone who just says, uh,you know, we have to.
We have to be following Jesus.
We have to be honoring the Lord.
Uh, and a, a believing followermeans that, that we are denying
ourselves.
We're picking up our cross andwe're following Jesus.
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We're a disciple.
His, he gave He, this is notedto his first century disciple.
So are you a 21st centurydisciple?
Are you a believing follower ofJesus?
Christ because in Luke, he says,behold.
I have given you all authority.
I have given you the authorityto, to trample on snakes and
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scorpions, and that's, uh,figurative language for the
demonic.
He's given us authority to standagainst all the power of the
enemy, and he says that nothingwill harm you.
So if you're gonna stand on atruth, embrace his authority,
and I would encourage you standon the truth, not a truth, not a
subjective truth, but theobjective truth, the capital T
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truth, the JC truth, JesusChrist.
And embrace his authority andstand firm between your family
and the enemy who seeks todivide you.
Speak truth, believe truth.
Are you with him?
Wow.
You're like wound up.
Are you with him?
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I love it.
Yeah.
You know, unfortunately thoughthe wedge that you mentioned
happens more often than itshould.
It does.
You know, in business, olderleaders clinging to the control.
Out of fear of aging out maybe.
Right.
Or, you know, not having, notthings being done the way that
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they want them to be done.
Right.
And the new generation can rushinto burnout and frustration,
and both of them then lose sightof the proper stewardship that
requires God first.
Right?
So based on our experience whenhe is out in front.
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Relations are vastly moreproductive.
Yeah.
We gotta ask ourselves, who'sreally in control?
Who's really in control, and wehave to yield to his
realization.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
Whether it's in family orbusiness, um, we'll always do
best to yield to him.
Yeah.
That's, that's the, the, he'sreally hit me with that word,
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uh, not just the latter part ofthis year.
Yield.
I think that was really yourword for the year, this year.
Yeah.
Was yield.
Yield.
Yeah.
Yeah.
If, if I, if I don't do anythingelse, I, I must yield, we must
yield to his principles andprecepts.
We must yield to, to his ways.
'cause his ways are alwayshigher and greater than our own.
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You know, and so, so yield, wegotta yield to him in all that
we do and all that we say, and,and, and all in our, in our fam
family and our parenting and ourbusiness practices.
Uh, and these days it's easy toget distracted.
Yeah.
It's easy to not yield.
Uh, that takes focus.
We gotta keep our eyes fixed onthem.
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Uh, if we get tangled up in theliar's distraction, we can find
ourself trying to manage adultchildren instead of mentoring
them.
If we mentor them, we don't needto manage them when they grow
up.
Or we see adult children rerejecting potential mentorship
over resentment, uh, from pastneglect or worse abandonment.
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Hmm.
This, this, uh, abandonment.
This gets me pretty wound up.
I know it does.
Uh, sadly, fathers, um, in thiscountry are abdicating their
responsibilities.
That bears a disgusting, adisgusting statistic of 80%.
Eight out 10 dads walk away fromtheir kids.
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Mm, mm-hmm.
Yeah.
That gets him rolling.
Yeah.
Yeah.
This is not, it gets himrolling.
This is not, this is not anysort of legacy to leave men.
Wake up, stand up and stand firmand, and raise your kids.
Yeah.
Be a dad, not just a father.
Don't be a donor.
Be a father.
Ooh, moving on.
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Zing.
Sorry.
Not sorry.
Uh, 80 percent's a ridiculous,uh mm-hmm.
Generational thing.
Uh, a ridiculous statistic.
It is.
Um, but this didn't happenovernight.
It's a, it's a generationalchallenge.
Uh, this is what happens when weallow society to take God, uh,
uh, from our foundation inChrist.
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Uh, he there.
They rejected the, uh, thestone, the cornerstone.
The cornerstone.
They have rejected thecornerstone.
Mm-hmm.
And, and we need, and this is aresult that 80%, eight outta 10
dads walking away, uh, uh, anepidemic of fatherlessness.
Uh, and, and whatever else.
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Uh, I don't want to get on a, ona complaining tyrant, uh, or,
um, whatever a diatribe.
Diatribe.
That's it.
Yeah.
Uh, but you know, this is whathappens when you take God outta
things.
It is, um, this is what happenswhen you remove Christ as the
cornerstone of our in, in ourfoundation, because he is the
foundation.
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He is the cornerstone.
And, and for builders, you, youput that cornerstone up, you
pour the foundation, you put thecornerstone up first, and then
you build from that and it'slevel and plum.
Yeah.
You know, he's the cornerstone.
So what do we do here?
You know, we're, we're offkilter.
Mm-hmm.
As a society, we can return tohim, we can repent and people
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get freaked out by Repent.
Oh, repent.
Right.
Uh, repentance is nothing morethan than changing our mind and
making that 100 degree, a 180degree turnaround to follow
Jesus.
To make him the Lord of ourlife.
James puts it simply that wemust humble ourselves before the
Lord and he will lift us up.
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Yeah, and humility.
I'd rather be lifted up by theLord and try to elevate myself
Sure.
That that doesn't, that doesn'twork too well.
And it's built on pride and, andpride comes before the fall.
Mm-hmm.
A better way is, is humilitythat leads us to forgiveness and
mm-hmm.
And, uh.
And reconciliation.
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Yeah.
And I, I, I mean, who doesn'tneed that?
Right?
Who doesn't need forgiveness andreconciliation?
I just wanna go back to repentfor a minute because repent
means taking it.
I mean, you said making the 180,but you also have to take it to
the Lord and you have to belike, Lord, I am sorry.
Yeah, I amm, sorry.
And I'm not going to do thisagain.
I'm going to make that 180.
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That's it.
That's it.
That, that's saying it, it ismore than sorry, but what, what
Christ said is See that you are,he's he, yeah.
He told, uh, see that you'rehealed.
Mm-hmm.
Uh, now go and sin no more.
Right.
Right.
And, uh, and that, that's, andthat's, and that takes humility.
And humility is the bridge toreconciliation.
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It is.
So unity between generations,you know, requires courage and.
And the curiosity to curiosityto ask, you know, what can I
learn from them instead of howcan I outperform them or how can
I prove them wrong?
Right.
And I've seen that time and timeagain in business and, and you
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know, other places that I'veworked and it's one thing that I
have wanted to carry intoFreedom Support Solutions and
ACBW with not that sort ofattitude.
Yeah.
Because it's not about that.
I do have something to learnfrom my daughters.
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You know, they have ideas and,and they have good ideas.
Yeah.
And I, the difference betweenthat is what fuels our ambition,
you know?
Is it pride or is it humility?
Is it resentment or is itreconciliation?
Yeah.
And I want it to be humility andreconciliation.
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Absolutely.
You know, absolutely.
I, I'll go on to say that, youknow, through the years we've
walked through a lot as afamily.
A lot again, a lot, a lot.
And we've, you know, we've hadseasons of distance.
We've had healing.
And a lot of grace.
A lot of grace.
And we've learned firsthand.
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Hold on.
Hold on, babe.
Grace.
Grace, yeah.
And we've learned firsthandthat.
You know, reconciliation isalways possible when we lean
into God's ministry ofreconciliation.
Now having our daughters workingalongside me at Freedom Support
Solutions and ACBW, I findmyself really in a new and a
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beautiful season of mentoringthem in business while still
being mom.
Right.
And I'm, I'm still, you know,keeping that bound, trying to
keep that boundary line because,you know.
Sometimes off business hours, Ican start bringing up business.
But I have to say, you know,when they came to me and, and
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they, and they put me online,they're like, mom, they do, it's
not, it's not time to talkbusiness.
Hey, it's family time.
And I'm like, ah, you know what?
You're right.
You're right.
It's not.
So I've been trying to get awhole lot better at that.
But they, like yesterday theycame to me and said, Hey mom,
you wanna get a breakfast?
It was a Saturday.
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Mm-hmm.
And it wasn't a workday.
They weren't asking to go outand, you know, talk about
business.
They just wanted to spend timewith me.
Right.
Although we did end up talkingabout business so that we could,
I could pay for it, but I said,if we can have like a little
business meeting here, then, youknow, even though we had, we had
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mom daughter time too, but youknow, it was good that the
business could pay for it andthey didn't have to, and I
didn't have to, but, you know,but it stretches me in the best
ways, having them working withme.
But here's the truth, it's onlythrough the reconciling work of
Jesus that I'm even able tolead.
To love and to guide them.
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Right.
And to to, to, as they see howyou allow how you are stretched.
Yeah.
They see how they must bestretched as well.
Mm-hmm.
And, and that willingness Yeah.
Flows.
And it's such, it's such a giftto see reconciliation, not just
restore relationships, but alsostrengthen the legacy that we're
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building as, as a family.
Yeah.
Uh, and for me, you know,witnessing the, uh, the
challenges of our past and howour, our, our family's faith and
our love and our forgivenessempowers our lives together is
nothing short of God'sbrilliance.
Yeah.
It's nothing short of God'sbrilliance.
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He's, he's seen us through a lotand I.
I think that we've, uh, no.
I know that we've seen eachother at our worst, uh, but I've
also witnessed each other'sfaith that brought us to today.
Being stronger for the trials.
You know, he, he who knows outthere, who understands out there
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that we, we go through, we'regonna, challenges don't end.
You know, it, it's one challengeafter another and the, the
question isn't.
Why me?
The question is, what are youshowing me here, Lord?
What, what's the teachablemoment in this challenge?
And, and the teachable moment inthe, in the current challenge,
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uh, gets us to the other side ofthat challenge and prepares us
for the next challenge on downthe line.
Yeah.
So, so we've grown through ourtrials, uh, so that we continue
to persevere into and throughthe next trial, uh, together.
He's really brought us together.
And that's what it's all about,learning through the mess so
that we can teach others how hesaw us through the mess.
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Yeah.
That without, without the mess.
There's no message there.
There's a little old, uh, rightadage or recovery adage without
the mess, there's no message.
And there's been some messeshere.
Um, and I, I would just, andwithout the test, there's no
testimony.
There's no testimony.
Right, right.
So I would take it to.
To Proverbs, you know, theydidn't call Solomon the wisest
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one of all time, and, and he waschallenged too, man.
Get in the word man.
Solomon wasn't perfect, but heknew enough when, when the a
when when he was asked what hewanted from the Lord, he, uh, he
asked for wisdom.
And, and he and he, there is alegacy.
He's passed that wisdom onto us.
And right now we're gonna pullit from Proverbs 3:5-6, which
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simply says, trust in the Lordwith all of your heart.
Lean not on your ownunderstanding, but in all your
ways, acknowledge.
Him and he will make your pathsstraight.
Yeah, exactly.
Exactly.
Faith stretches us all andempowers us to grow together.
Yeah.
I learned that growth doesn'thappen in our comfort zones.
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Did you know that?
Faith, you know, yeah.
Growth does not really happen inour comfort zones.
It happens in the stretch, andif we're not being stretched,
we're not growing, and sometimesthat's fucked.
And sometimes they'restretching, meaning my
daughter's stretching.
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Or you can put it in perspectiveof any children, um, requires my
silence.
And that's hard.
But it required my silence as wehoped, and we trusted in God's
timing, not in my timing.
You know, like we said before,you know, we want things now,
you know, but his hope doesn'tever disappoint.
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And his timing is always righton time.
That's a, that's a, and what'smore is that these, uh, these
fine ladies are now as, as we'vegrown together, as they've been
mentored.
Well, um.
Through all the reconciliation.
They are currently drivenChristian business, women
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mm-hmm.
Who add fresh creativity, newsystemic opportunities and ideas
that have strengthened thecompany for sure.
It is brilliant.
Yeah.
To I just brilliant to observe.
Mm-hmm.
Um, that's what generate, that'sgenerational partnership and
action.
Uh, and uh, under.
Under and in his authority byand in the name of Jesus Christ.
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And what I love about, um, and,and it sounds cliche to some
and, and whatever on cliche,and, and I get a little bothered
by cliche sometimes, but this,but what my point is here is
that, that you and the girlshave absolutely made, uh.
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Jesus Christ, the CEO of FreedomSupport Solutions and American,
or, uh, I wanna always sayAmerican Christian Business
Women Association.
We are American Christianbusiness women, but it's
association of Christianbusiness women.
Right.
He is the CEO.
He's, he's the COO.
He, he's the mm-hmm.
He is the, the alpha, the omega.
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Yeah.
You know, and you know, it'shumbling though, because as
parents we admittedly.
Face planted often through theyears.
Yeah.
You know that.
Yeah.
That, yeah.
That's face planning.
Yeah.
And, but through it all, I mean,God's grace is more sufficient
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and has seen us through to todaywhere we, where we can now all
believe that the best is yet tocome.
Yeah.
And it's humbling to havetrusted God, to build us to
hear.
So that we can trust him fromhere to stretch us, to keep
building his purpose, to leavein our daughter's hands.
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Yeah.
Yeah.
I was, uh, I mean, and maybeeven in our son's hands, who
knows what he's gonna do afterthe Navy.
I mean, who knows?
Hard to tell him, but.
He is, they're all prettyspecial.
Yeah.
Not pretty special.
They're all super special.
They are.
Uh, but I, the, I rememberhearing our, our, some of our
original marriage mentors, Dickand Brenda Smith.
Mm-hmm.
And the, uh, I remember beingin, uh, just being really in, in
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the, in the challenge and, and,uh, as faith was growing and,
and Dick is like, the best isyet to come, and I'd be like,
mm-hmm.
Whatever dude.
And, but, and now, now I'm thatguy.
The best is yet to come.
And we, and we believe it.
I don't say it.
So yeah.
So that's what we tell our, our,our friends, our brothers and
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sisters in recovery, uh, on thelife speaking declarations
'cause.
That's what he was doing.
That's what the word says.
It says, the best is yet tocome.
As we trust in Jesus, the thebest is yet to come.
He has, uh, the abundant lifefor us more than we could ever
ask or imagine.
Uh, and, uh, so we, we encourageour friends or brothers and
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sisters to, if you don't, if youdon't believe that biblical.
Uh, life speaking declaration.
Mm-hmm.
Speak it out anyway.
That's right.
Be speak it out over yourselvesand others.
Speak it, put it on yourmirrors, put it on your
dashboard.
Put it on your refrigerator andkeep saying it.
Mm-hmm.
Until it comes true.
'cause I'm telling you what Iwas adverse to.
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The best is yet to come, but Iwould tell you right here, right
now, we're living it.
Mm-hmm.
And the best is yet to come.
Yeah.
All right.
Do you believe it?
Yeah.
So.
It's, uh, it's been great to,uh, to watch'em grow and to
that, and, and, and that theybelieve the best is yet to come.
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Yeah.
Uh, so my question is, is, um,who do you, who do you look up
to?
Who's mentoring you?
'cause we all need mentors,right?
We all need mentors.
'cause you know, the, the.
The older needs to mentor theyounger, uh,'cause the younger's
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got passion.
But passion without wisdom burnsout quick, you know?
And, uh, so we hope that, uh,when, when you're answering the
question, who are you mentoringor who are you being mentored
by?
We hope that your answer firstand foremost is Jesus Christ.
Right?
'cause he, there is one person,uh, one.
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Well person, the God man.
Mm-hmm.
The cool thing about Jesus ishe's 200% right.
He was a hundred.
He was a hundred percent man anda hundred percent God.
Yeah.
Uh, so he's the only one everwho won't steer you wrong.
That's right.
He'll never let you down.
That's right.
You know, generationalreconciliation requires us to
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release and receive.
We must release the past lies,and we talk about this in
unbound all the time.
You know, releasing the pastlies and turmoil so that we can
receive his truth and embraceour forward facing freedom
together.
And just the same passing thebaton requires us to release and
receive.
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Our generation must release, wehave to release.
What we've learned.
Yeah.
To the next.
And the next must respectfullyreceive their proven wisdom so
that they can carry ongeneration to generation to
generation.
That's it.
That's it.
So we got, that's what Legacy'sall about.
It is.
That's what Legacy's all about.
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So we got five Kingdomprinciples.
We always.
As we're winding down, we alwayshave some solutions that we like
to leave you with.
And we got five today.
Yeah.
And, and the first one is honorMust flow both ways.
Absolutely.
Honor is absolutely essential.
It isn't earned.
It is given.
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And we must honor God first andas he leads us.
When we honor him first, he willlead us to honor others through
our generation, which opens thedoor for his generational
blessings, right?
We have to honor up and we haveto honor down, and we have to
honor all around.
That's it.
That's it.
Up, down, all around, right?
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And honoring God first.
I, uh, that's, that's.
It's key first.
It is key.
Mm-hmm.
You know, honor means respectfulacknowledgement.
Mm-hmm.
Honor recognizes that each oneof us are created in God's
image.
Let me say that again.
Honor.
When we honor someone, werecognize that every one of us,
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whether you believe it or not,the truth is that we are created
in his image.
Yeah.
And in such reverence.
Uh, the older generation blessesthe younger publicly, while the
younger generation honors theolder privately and consistently
for sure.
Our second one is communicationmust be intentional.
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You know, generational unitydies in assumptions, so we have
to talk and I mean, really talk.
And in our family and businessmeetings, we've learned to pause
and ask, tell me what you'veheard.
Not just, did you hear me right,but tell me what you heard
instead of assuming clarity.
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Yeah.
Yeah.
Did you hear me?
Did you hear me?
Did you hear me?
That's that, that's a little,that can be, uh, um.
All right.
Can be, anyway.
I don't know what I was gonnasay though.
Okay.
Disregard.
Um, so disrespectful.
Perhaps it could bedisrespectful.
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No confrontational con.
Oh yes, there you go.
Confrontational.
Could be confrontational.
Yeah.
But, uh, but tell me what youheard.
Right.
You know,'cause sometimes, and,and that, that sometimes between
you and I, sometimes somethingI'll say, you know, I, I thought
it was clear, but, you know, youresponded differently than I
expected.
And I'm like, ah.
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What, how did you understandthat?
And vice versa too, you know?
So it's important.
That's a great question to add.
Tell me what you heard.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, so we, we've learned over,over time and also another
lesson from, from my man DickSmith.
You know, he told me he got twoears and one mouth for a reason,
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so we can listen twice as muchas as we speak, right?
And we've learned over time.
Uh, and, and business and, and,and at home.
That, that listening is thebetter part of communication.
Uh, it's so important for us tolisten without defensiveness.
You know, I like back toSolomon.
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Solomon 18:13 says, you meanProverbs 18:13?
Did I say, what'd I say?
You said Solomon.
Solomon, Solomon.
18:13.
He wrote it right?
What's the matter with that?
Jack?
Uh, pro proverbs, Solomon'sProverbs 18:13 says to answer
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before listening is folly andshame.
Mm.
Yeah.
So don't do that.
Don't be that guy.
Generational listening takesdiscipline.
Uh, and it builds trust over thelong run.
Right.
And we want the long run.
Yeah.
As from one generation to thenext.
So.
Yeah.
And our third would beempowerment.
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Must replace control.
So you can't say you trustsomeone and micromanage them.
And this has been a pet peeve ofmine for many, many, many years
as an employee.
You know, coming, I wasn'talways, I, I was always an
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entrepreneur from the time I was10 years old, but I wasn't
always like the.
I wasn't always, you know, Ididn't, I wasn't always the
boss.
Right.
Right.
That's what I'm trying to say.
Right.
Spit it out later.
I, I was working for otherpeople and it drove me crazy.
You, you tell me that you wantme to do something and you trust
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me to do it, but then you,you're trying to micromanage me
and keep me under your thumb.
Right.
You can't say you trust someoneand micromanage them.
There's absolutely no faith inthat.
Yeah.
Uh, let them try, right?
Let them lead and maybe even letthem make a few mistakes.
Sure.
But be there to field theirquestions.
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But if you're gonna actuallytrust someone to do something,
let them do it.
And that's how wisdom and solidbuild a solid business.
Um.
Relations are formed.
Yeah, absolutely.
I think that's why, uh, I do sowell in the position I'm in now
is that I'm not micromanaged.
Right.
Uh, they, this is what the, thisis what the position requires.
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Uh, do that.
Yeah.
And, and I mean, if you're notdoing that, if I'm not doing
that, I expect to be called outon it.
Yeah.
But there's, there's, there's nonot doing that here.
Wouldn't you say though, thatthe generation prior to ours,
like.
They, they were huge atmicromanaging on micro, and I
know there are still some nowtoo, but Yeah.
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But I would say that generation,oh, I've been micromanaged.
Yeah.
You know, and, uh, yeah.
So, and it's not ever pleasant.
No.
So it's not no faith there.
Right.
But, uh, so I th what I thinkthere is that, uh, control
protects comfort.
Mm, that's very true.
Yeah.
But empowerment producescapacity, and that's what we're
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looking for.
Whoa.
Can you say that again?
Yeah.
And, uh, only if you promise toput it in the show notes.
Anyway, it'll be in the shownotes.
Control protects comfort,control, protect.
She's turning the, turning it upon me.
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Right.
Control protects comfort whileempowerment.
Produces capacity.
And capacity is what multiplieslegacy.
Oh, that's really good.
Yeah.
Write that down.
Yeah.
You can quote scripture all day.
Oh, but well, let me, I wanna,and we do mo most days.
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Yeah.
There's nothing wrong with that,but, but faith must be lived
out, not just taught.
Yeah.
So that's number four.
Faith must be lived out, notjust taught.
Because if you're quotingscripture all day, every day,
your children and your teams arelearning more from how you
handle conflict.
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Yeah.
Than from what you post online.
Right.
So we can, you know, we can tellyou, it goes back to the old
adage, do what I say, not as Ido.
Yeah.
Don't you know, which I used toget.
Don't, don't be.
That guy used to get told to.
Um, but.
It's gonna, it goes back to morebeing caught than taught.
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Yeah.
Isn't that that do, as I say,not as I do.
Isn't that like the, uh, uh, adefinition of hypocrisy?
Yeah.
I, I would say so.
Yes.
Yeah.
Yes.
Don't be that guy.
Right?
All right.
Yeah.
Don't be that person.
So, so, uh, our kids need to seeour humility.
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Mm-hmm.
Right?
Pride's rampant.
Mm-hmm.
So I think our, our kids, ournext generation, our coworkers,
each other, uh, we need toexhibit that humility, uh, in
our, in our repentance.
We can't, we cannot shy awayfrom repentance.
Repentance, uh, for Christianshould, I mean, we're, we're not
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perfect.
Mm-hmm.
He, he doesn't make us perfect.
He just reconciles us before thefather.
Yes.
Uh, and as we, uh.
As we walk, we will fall, butwhen we get back up, we, we, we
must repent on that.
Mm-hmm.
Which is, uh, which is Lord.
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I apologize for that, and I'mnot gonna do that no more.
I'm gonna, I'm gonna make thatturn.
I'm gonna release that.
Uh, thank you for forgiving me.
Uh, and, uh, and we're gonna,I'm gonna walk this way now.
Yeah.
All right.
It's a lesson learned, right?
And, uh, and a realignment.
Uh, they should see that they,they, they need to see the
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humility and repentance.
Mm-hmm.
Uh, they need to see consistencyin our devotion.
Uh, this genera, the nextgeneration needs to see the
gratitude for our blessings.
Oh yeah.
Gratitude is huge.
Gratitude changes perspectivenearly instantly.
Mm-hmm.
You know, and if you're not, ifyou're not expressing gratitude,
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uh, then I would encourage youto sit down and write three
things that you're grateful for.
Yeah.
'cause everybody's gotsomething, right.
Uh.
Because they're gonna rememberthat far longer than they're
gonna remember a sermon.
Right.
You know, or just throwing outscripture without explanation,
you know?
Or, or if we're throwing outscripture and we're not actually
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living it, man, there's somehypocrisy.
Right.
And that'll be, that'll becaught.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
So, and we don't want that.
But, um, anyway.
Yeah.
Caught more caught than taught.
So, yeah.
I mean, when faith is modeled.
It not mandated.
Yeah.
It transfers really well.
Yeah, I know.
I remember my mom said, and it,and it just popped in my head.
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Mom used to say, a Alec actionsspeak louder than words.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
And I'm like, all day, everyday.
Okay.
All day, every day.
Yeah.
The fifth one is purpose muststay kingdom centered.
Kingdom centered.
Kingdom centered, my goodness.
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Absolutely.
You know, every generationwrestles with this, uh, the
temptation to make it about mylegacy instead of.
His legacy.
Yeah.
But, uh, kingdom there as we, asChristians, we're to advance the
kingdom or to build a kingdom orto, to, uh, come into agreement
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for the kingdom.
Uh, so it's never about keepingour name, uh, alive.
It's about lifting his namehigh.
Amen.
Uh, again, uh, we gotta humbleourselves before the Lord.
Are you, are you tired of thatverse yet?
Because here it comes again.
We gotta humble ourselves beforethe Lord and he will exalt us.
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He will lift us up and.
I think I said this before, I'drather be lifted, uh, lifted up
by the Lord than lifted up bymyself or someone else.
Right.
We gotta be, gotta be aware ofthat flattery, you know, and the
battle.
That's a, that can be deception.
Yeah.
And it can build pride and.
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It's always important toremember that pride comes before
the fall anywhere in scripture.
Pride doesn't bear a ne, italways bears a negative
connotation.
Yeah.
And it, and it, and it's, youknow, from Psalms to Proverbs
to, to James Pride comes beforethe fall.
Yeah.
And when we, but when we alignon his purpose.
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Style differences, stop dividingus.
So the old generation bringswisdom that guards the mission
and the younger bringsinnovation that carry it
forward.
And I can tell you thatfirsthand for me, um, that when
I allowed them to bring theinnovation, it brought unity.
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Yeah.
Because they've got great ideas.
Don't just count the ideas thatthey have.
Yeah.
You may not go with everythingthat they have.
But at least hear them out andhear what their thoughts are.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They, uh, and I think we canlook at our daughters and
realize that they're carryingthings that I once prayed for.
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Yeah, that's cool.
They, they're carryinginfluence.
They're carrying impact.
They're carrying opportunity.
And, but it's all happeningbecause of their unique
expression.
Absolutely.
And that's what legacy's allabout abs.
Yeah, for sure.
That's legacy.
Mm-hmm.
That's saying well done.
Yeah.
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And, uh, let's keep moving.
'cause the work, the, the workand the legacy builds, you know,
and we, and it, and it movesforward.
It's like we mentioned in, inthe beginning of this.
Uh, episode is that he, uh, webuilt it with this generation
and to generation.
To generation to generation.
Mm-hmm.
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And, uh, and we've done, we'vedone well, you've done really
well here.
Yeah.
And they're doing really well.
It's like, it's, uh, watchingGod's, uh.
Answer, answering prayers, uh,through someone else's
obedience.
Yeah.
You've been obedient and, uh,and I've, I've, I've heard your
prayers.
I've watched your prayers and,uh, and you've been, you've been
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obedient to what, how he'sinstructed you.
And it, it's just watching allthat come to fruition, it's
pretty sweet.
Well, it's a reminder thatlegacy doesn't just live in
bloodlines.
It lives in every person thatwe've poured into.
Yeah.
In our teams, not all of our,not all of my employees are.
Not all of my employees are mychildren.
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Right.
Um, so it pours out into ourteams, into our clients, into
our community, and each onerepresents a piece of the baton
that God has asked us to carry.
Yeah.
And you might drop the baton,but I think maybe you said
earlier, it's not, it's not howmany times you drop the baton.
It's how many times.
How many times it up, you pickit back up and run.
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That's right.
Run.
You know, and, uh.
Run the race before us.
Mm-hmm.
You know, and, uh, yeah.
Yeah.
It's not how we, it's not, yeah.
It's not the fall that definesus, it's how we get back up and
keep moving forward.
Yeah.
And who we follow, uh, throughthe race that defines us.
Mm-hmm.
So maybe you're listening today,um, and you say, I don't have
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kids.
Yeah.
So we would ask you, do you haveinfluence.
Where's your influence at?
Uh, there's always someonethat's watching your faith and
learning from your consistencyor your inconsistency.
Mm-hmm.
So who's your next generation?
Yeah.
(52:07):
So let's talk about what itlooks like in practice.
I mean, maybe you're a businessowner like me.
Um, start by inviting youryounger team members into the
why behind what you do.
Make sure they know the whybehind what you do, and don't
just assign tasks, but actuallyshare the vision that you have
so that they can roll with thatvision as they move forward.
(52:30):
Yeah, sure.
And the team needs to know thevision.
Yeah, absolutely.
And if you're a parent of adultchildren, do your very best.
To resist the urge to consist tocorrect every decision they
make.
Uh, it's important to pray moreand advise less, and always
encourage and love them rightwhere they are.
(52:54):
Hmm.
Encourage them through thetrials.
Love them through the trials,uh, for who they are, uh,
because.
Every one of us is made in God'simage.
Mm-hmm.
Uh, and it's important tounderstand that, that God's
still writing our story and he'sstill writing their story as
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well.
Yeah.
And you're a part of that story.
That's right.
And if you're the youngergeneration, take initiative and
be intentional.
Don't, don't wait to be invited.
Don't wait until someone asksyou to do something.
Step up to the plate and say,Hey, why don't I take care of
that for you?
I love it when one of the girlssays.
Hey, let me take care of thatfor you.
(53:35):
Yeah.
Because I have so much on myplate, and you never know what a
blessing that's going to be tosomeone.
So, so don't wait to be invited.
Um, ask questions.
Honor, honor the sacrifices thatbuilt what you're stepping into,
because trust me, there weresacrifices that were.
To build that business and thathumility, it opens doors faster
(53:58):
than ambition ever will.
Yeah, absolutely.
And what about ministry?
If you're in ministry, beintentional about mentorship.
Legacy doesn't happen at thepulpit.
It happens in the hallway.
Uh, when somebody older takestime and they pause long enough
to pour wisdom into.
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That younger generation.
Exactly.
That's, that's how we buildlegacy.
Exactly.
Legacy isn't just about a fewmoments.
It's about a lifestyle ofteaching, trusting and
testifying.
Mm-hmm.
And I, I, I think there's a goodparallel here with Elijah and
Eisha.
Oh yeah.
(54:40):
Uh, uh what a mentorship thatwas right.
Elijah knew how to mentor andYeah.
Elijah and Elisha and, uh.
Yeah, it was, uh, I, uh, I thinkthat, um, yeah, they, uh, that
was powerful.
Uh, when Elijah.
(55:01):
As, as the, uh, he was apowerful prophet.
Mm-hmm.
Uh, he didn't wait until, uh,his final breath to pour into.
Right.
Elijah, he invited him to walkbeside him.
Uh, he, uh, he invited him towitness, to learn and to grow
with him.
Yeah.
Beside, and, and Jesus did thesame thing, right.
(55:22):
Uh, with, I mean, he, they didlife together.
Right.
That.
Yeah.
And that proximity createdpreparation.
Yeah.
So when the mantle fell, finallyfell, Elisha was ready.
Not because of a ing, notbecause of one moment, not
because it was, oh, okay.
That's, that time has come forthe mantle to fall.
Mm-hmm.
But it's because of theconsistent mentorship.
(55:44):
That he received.
Absolutely.
And we can't expect a doubleportion impact without a double
portion investment.
Mm-hmm.
Right.
Yeah.
So Unity Unity's costly.
Uh, but the harvest that itproduces is generational for
sure.
So if you're listening right nowand you're realizing that
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there's maybe a relationshipthat needs mending, perhaps it's
between generation gengenerations in your family, or
maybe it's in your team, ask theLord to show you where pride or
fear has created distance,because you can be guaranteed.
It's one of those two pride andfear, and they go hand in hand.
They do.
They do.
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And then we'd encourage you totake one humble step.
Mm-hmm.
Humility over pride.
Every time.
Be the first you make the phonecall, you send the text, you set
the meeting.
Yeah.
Legacy always starts withreconciliation.
Is there someone you need toreconcile with today?
(56:47):
Make that call.
Yeah.
Because when we humbleourselves, God restores
relations between generations.
You know, maybe it's a childthat has gone away.
Maybe it's a team member who'sdisappointed with what's
happening in business right nowwith them, but he removes the
wedge and he heals what distancehas damaged.
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It's powerful when you humbleyourself and allow God to make
that restoration.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
Let's recap here.
We got five recap points.
Yeah.
And they're really good.
So grab your paper, write'emdown unless you're driving and
don't do that.
Just come back and listen later.
Don't be that guy, right?
(57:30):
Or gal.
Uh, so, uh, or.
Our, uh, wrap up points is thatevery generation has something
to give and something toreceive.
Yes.
And honor builds bridges whereage gaps create divides, right?
And legacy is built when faithis lived and passed to our next
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generation.
Our fourth one is empowermentsustains what Control destroys.
Big one.
That's a big one.
Big one.
They're all good.
But I really like that one.
Yeah.
Uh, the baton of faith.
Uh, five.
Last but not least, the baton offaith is passed through
reconciliation andrelationships.
(58:14):
Yeah.
And, and reconciliation is,there will be disagreements,
but, and, and if we're gonnahave solid, uh, family and
business relationships, theremust be reconciliation.
Yeah.
So as we close down, as we'rewrapping up today, let's, let's
take a moment.
Just take a moment with us and,and picture the people who
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invested in you, who, the, yourparents, your pastors, your
mentors, your teachers, you knowwho they are.
They're, they're, they're rightthere at the forefront, right,
right there at your prefrontalcortex, right?
They're, they're right there.
Uh, you, you see'em?
Now, now, now, picture thepeople that you are called to
(58:57):
invest next and.
The people who invested in youand who you will invest in.
That's the flow of Kingdomlegacy.
Right.
And it doesn't requireperfection.
It only requires faithfulness.
Yeah.
So be willing to receive, torelease, and to run your leg of
the race with excellence.
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Absolutely.
Because when one generationfinishes well, the next begins
stronger.
Yes.
So.
Let's be found faithful, notonly in what we build, but in
how we pass it on.
Yeah.
Passing that baton to the nextgeneration.
So if this episode encouragedyou, share it with a friend.
Share it with someone that youknow may need to hear what?
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Hear this, right?
Share it with your children.
Share it with absolutely yourteam members.
Whoever the Lord leads you toshare it with, share it with
them, and don't forget tosubscribe.
That's right.
And remember.
Yep.
Go ahead babe.
When we invest in the kingdom,we can trust and believe that he
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will bring the increase.
Every time.
Every time.
God bless.
Take care.
Drive safely.
God bless.
Thanks for joining us onFaithfully Invested with Allen
and Stacy Jo, if today'sconversation encouraged you,
challenged you, or helped yousee your calling more clearly,
don't keep it to yourself.
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Share it with a friend.
Leave a five star review andkeep leaning into God's
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So until next time, remember,when you invest in his kingdom,
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