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TD Flenaugh (00:00):
TD, how do you make
your kid into a bookworm? Well,
(00:07):
today, we have a special guestwho is a young child and a
bookworm.
She's here to tell them, tell usabout their reading journey. And
of course, we have our alsoresident master educator Lauren
Moseley, you don't want to missthis episode for the latest tips
(00:28):
and strategies to get your kidto love reading.
Hi. Thank you so much forjoining the Falling for Learning
Podcast. We have this podcast tohelp parents and caregivers with
having the resources, strategiesand tools needed to make sure
that their children are on trackfor learning and to stay on
track for success.
Sagie the Bookworm (00:49):
Welcome, hi.
My name is Sage. You could callme Sagie the bookworm, though,
TD Flenaugh (00:56):
love it. Okay?
Sagie the Bookworm, tell us thegrade that you just completed,
because I know we're in oursummer months.
Sagie the Bookworm (01:04):
I just
completed grade four, and I'm
going to grade five.
TD Flenaugh (01:08):
Ooh, okay, upper
grades. So we you're calling
yourself a bookworm. So how dida self How did you become a self
professed bookworm, like Whatmade you start loving to read?
Sagie the Bookworm (01:23):
What made me
start loving to read is
sometimes when I was in first orsecond or second grade, I used
to go to the park down thestreet from me, and I used to
sit in a tree where the treescut down. Now I used to sit in a
tree and reading just made melove. Reading
TD Flenaugh (01:43):
love is so a
special place to read, right?
Okay, hmm, who do you creditwhen teaching you how to read?
Was it just like one person or alot of different people?
Sagie the Bookworm (01:56):
So when I
was I started reading in pre K
for I think so I was so there'sthis tutor. Her name was Miss
Harley Hartley. And I also hadanother tutor named Miss barber
that helped me a lot, helped mealong the year to learn how to
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read in the in 2020,
TD Flenaugh (02:19):
okay, all right.
Um, we jumped right intobusiness. I'm gonna take a step
back and just ask you, like,how's the summer going?
Sagie the Bookworm (02:29):
It's going,
it's going pretty well. I'm
going to, I'm going to camps andHouston fine and Houston fine
art, fine arts. ARCU,architectural camp.
TD Flenaugh (02:42):
Hmm, so you said
camp, so more than one camp. So
this week, we're on a Friday.
What did what camp did you dothis week? Next? PD, see, okay,
tell us more, please.
Sagie the Bookworm (02:57):
So it's a
dancing camp, and I'm doing
dance, so it could help with mytrack journey and because, and
then I also like, did I alsolike dancing, because it's a
pretty fun camp. You get a a funFriday field trip, Friday every,
every week. So,
TD Flenaugh (03:19):
so what field trip
did you go to?
Sagie the Bookworm (03:22):
We went to
the Evergreen Pool today.
Evergreen Pool.
TD Flenaugh (03:27):
What makes it
evergreen? Is it green? Or what
does that mean? It's a location.
Sagie the Bookworm (03:31):
It's a
location. I have no idea, but
it's not actually green. It'snot actually
TD Flenaugh (03:36):
okay.
I'm not from your area. So I waslike, Okay, let me, let me know.
Okay and
Lauren Moseley (03:44):
I don't think a
green pool is good anywhere.
TD Flenaugh (03:49):
It was like, Green
Eggs and Ham, like, just food
coloring. I don't know. Whoknows. Okay. So Sagie the
Bookworm? Can you tell me? Likeone thing that was like, what
was the best thing about thedance camp this week?
Unknown (04:04):
The best thing about
the dance camp was this week was
learning, learning thetechniques and moves and the
structure that I needed to haveto do it.
TD Flenaugh (04:17):
Okay, techniques,
structure, okay? And then I just
have to go back. You told methat you're on a track journey,
and this dance camp isstrategically chosen to help
you. What do you like to do fortrack? Tell me about that.
What's your goal?
Unknown (04:36):
I do three events. I do
long jump, triple jump, and
sprints.
TD Flenaugh (04:43):
Okay, long jump,
triple jump and sprints. Yeah,
Unknown (04:49):
my dad, he was a he was
number one, two in the country,
two in the country. I'm tryingto. My track journey after him.
TD Flenaugh (05:02):
Alright, nice. Oh,
wow, that is so just great to
hear like you are taking up thatresponsibility, like that
challenge, and carrying on yourdad's legacy. Oh, I'm sure, I'm
sure they're already very proudof you, already. Okay, so one
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thing I think is interesting toknow about is like, you're going
to tell us about a book that isparticularly interesting to you
right now, but can you tell uslike, like, one of the first
books you remember maybe someonereading to you, or that you read
yourself,
Sagie the Bookworm (05:43):
okay? Dada,
Jimmy Fallon,
TD Flenaugh (05:47):
say it again.
Sagie the Bookworm (05:49):
Da da, Jimmy
Fallon
TD Flenaugh (05:51):
dada, Jimmy Fallon,
Sagie the Bookworm (05:53):
yes,
TD Flenaugh (05:56):
are you looking for
it?
Lauren Moseley (06:00):
I just heard
Jimmy Fallon on a podcast
talking about this very book asbeing a book that he wrote just
because he wanted his kid to SayDada.
Unknown (06:09):
The story of it was my
mom and dad. Of course, they
were competing. Who is she gonnasay? Mama or dad? At first,
there was no mama. Jimmy Fallon,so my dad bought the Dada Jimmy
Fallon, and she was like, jetDada, Wolf, dada, moo, so
Lauren Moseley (06:37):
I don't
remember, did you actually say
dad first?
Sagie the Bookworm (06:41):
I did say
dada first
Lauren Moseley (06:42):
Jimmy did it. He
did it. That was his whole goal
in writingwriting that book.
TD Flenaugh (06:48):
We're definitely
going to put it in the show
notes, like, check it out. Ifyou need your kid to say, dada
first, you're in that race,right? He is a we know he's into
races, and he won that race aswell.
Wow. Okay, and can you thinkabout so that's what they were
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reading to you, correct? So doyou have a book like this? Is a
book you read by yourself thatyou really liked like, you know,
as you're learning how to read,like, one of your early books
that you read,
Sagie the Bookworm (07:25):
oh, so I
know it. It was called, it was
called Beautiful. It's actuallyright there.
TD Flenaugh (07:32):
You want to grab
it. Grab it. Let's see it. I
want to see this book.
Lauren Moseley (07:39):
She's got books
ever. She's got books in her
bed.
TD Flenaugh (07:41):
She does. She's
calling her, Yes, Beautiful,
okay, can you tell us who theauthor is?
Unknown (07:47):
The author of beautiful
is Stacy McAulty.
TD Flenaugh (07:52):
Okay, again, we're
gonna put in the show notes. We
have a resident bookprofessional here, a book
expert. Say, you the bookworm.
Good. Okay, so we know a littlebit about some of the books that
you like, but can you tell me,before we get into this, my last
question that I'm going to getyou into the book where that you
were here to talk about. But howdo you choose a book like, how
(08:16):
do you know which book to read?
Sagie the Bookworm (08:20):
So what I do
is, it's just this thing. I take
the book, right that I that init, the title looks interesting,
okay, the title, I flip to arandom page. I read that page, I
read this page, uh huh. Then Ithen I say, Hmm, and then I flip
to another page, then I putanother page, and then I do the
(08:42):
same thing, read the back, seeif it's a five, five finger
rule, if, if there's if there'son one page, if there's three
fingers, if there's three wordsthat I don't know, I should I
could do it. But if there's oneword I I don't know, do it. But
if there's five words I don'tknow, don't do it. Okay.
TD Flenaugh (09:03):
So this is the
independent reading tips. Yes,
absolutely. Who taught you that?
Do you know who showed you that?
Or just what you do?
Sagie the Bookworm (09:13):
I know who
showed me that her name was
Miss, Miss laritson.
TD Flenaugh (09:19):
Oh, I love this. Oh
my gosh, sage, I just love this,
right? Because, as teachers, wewould have, like, said these
things, but to hear that you'veinternalized that and you use
that, it really helps you loveit. Okay, so sage, let's get
into the book that you like toread, like this book that you
are here to tell us about. Yes,the rewrite method and the
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book set today. Youokay, tell us the title. Oh, go
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ahead. So
Sagie the Bookworm (10:30):
this book is
called IRL. The I stands for in
the R sells for real and thenthe L stands for life in real
life. And the book is a this.
This book is about loose thisgirl named Lucy. She moved to
Alaska. She moved to she movedto Alaska in dang it and set and
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then she went to the school. Itwas, it was cold. Oh, God, I
just
TD Flenaugh (11:02):
It's okay. You
don't have to remember
everything, no pressure, um,
Sagie the Bookworm (11:07):
just give us
the gist when combined,
secondary, okay, secondary. Butsince the worlds are flow frozen
during the during the schoolyear, during the winter, they
have to, oh, my shoot, my free,okay, there, yeah, so, so it's
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freezing, right? But then itbecomes spring, so they're gonna
do the first thing, but thelocation is a grave site. She
TD Flenaugh (11:38):
comes of the school
is a grave site. Yeah,
Sagie the Bookworm (11:42):
she goes
home, and she comes back the
next day, right again. She meetsthis guy named Connor, and then
he saves her from falling thetree. Then she feels like a
whoosh in her heart, and thenshe falls. She fell on her and
everything. And then the guypicks her up, and then she comes
back the third day with her mom.
And everything disappears whenher mom's there, but when her
(12:07):
mom leaves and says, I don't seenothing, everything comes back.
TD Flenaugh (12:13):
Okay. Can I pause
you for one second? Sage, are
you going to be doing like forthe audience? We want to know,
are you going to be doing spoil,spoil alerts? Because if they
want to read this book, I wantthem to, like, pause it. So
you're giving spoils. It's up toyou.
Sagie the Bookworm (12:34):
I'm giving
like, short summary,
TD Flenaugh (12:38):
short summary. But
are you going to give us, like,
the the ending, or you're gonnait's up to you. I'm leaving it
up to you if you want to spoilspoil, but I just want the
audience to know if you're gonnaspoil your spoils, you could
pause and watch the rest later,or whatever, because sage is
going to give us all the tea.
Okay, so if he's giving it allAll right, sage, keep going.
Sagie the Bookworm (13:04):
After a mom
comes the third day, she comes
back for the fourth day. Thenshe brings the computer, right?
The computer, she shows herclassmates and says, Yeah, this
is a school. Then she finds thisguy. His name is Harold, this
old man. He was actuallyConnor's younger brother, and
Connor died 20 years ago, so andthen he called, and then he
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Harold says, Yeah, everybody,every, every kid. I mean, 1212,
11 kids and one teacher died fora fire in winter, pine
secondary. And then, then he,then he says, but only, but
apparently there was 13 whodied. But there was only 1212.
(13:56):
Remains found, and then
Lauren Moseley (14:01):
he gets all
quiet. You're making it very
creepy. I
TD Flenaugh (14:03):
don't know if I
can. Yeah, she's so good at
this. It's so good stories. Iwant to hear more. I'm like,
leaning in, like,
Sagie the Bookworm (14:15):
and and then
she comes back with the
computer, right again, yeah, theschool, school in the middle of
the night, sewing machine.
Shirts off. She turns it off.
She unplugs it right? She'slike, I'm so scared. But then
she realizes that the 13students is her. They want her
(14:37):
to come join the dead.
TD Flenaugh (14:38):
She's the number
13.
Lauren Moseley (14:42):
That's such an
unlucky number, too.
TD Flenaugh (14:45):
And today is
actually Friday the 13th. This
is when we're filming. It won'tcome out until, like, a couple
weeks. But this is Friday the13th. Dun, dun, dun. Okay, we
love it. We love this. So isthis typical of the type
that you read? Sage likethrillers, lot of horror?
(15:07):
I read horror book stories,books.
Did anyone so I'm just gonnaask, because I know there's some
parents out there, or maybe eventeachers out there that might be
like, that's too much for theyoung kid or whatever. Did
anyone like try to say, don'tread that. It's not good. Or
(15:27):
what, what do you think?
Sagie the Bookworm (15:28):
Well, if you
could, if you say, well,
sometimes people say it's tooscary. I think it's good for for
a little for young minds to sayfor young minds to learn mystery
books so they can figure it outon their own and take a pause.
Every time you read a chapter,there's a mystery in every
(15:50):
chapter. Let's say I'm onchapter I'm I already finished
the book, but I'm on chapterthree. Right? Reading, reading,
reading, reading, when finishedchapter three, right? Yeah, take
a thing. I take a moment. Whatwas mystery? Let me figure it
out. Read chapter four. Finds itout. Oh, my God, I was right.
(16:14):
Yes,
Lauren Moseley (16:16):
I felt great.
Yeah. Mysteries are for criticalthinking. I love it. I love it.
Sagie the Bookworm (16:23):
Yes,
TD Flenaugh (16:26):
That is awesome. I
again so excited to have you on.
Has there been something thatmaybe someone has done to make
you question how much you likereading, or have you just been
encouraged for reading?
Sagie the Bookworm (16:45):
Well, some
people say some so there was
this one kid, he said, readingsfor nerds. And I said, Well,
being a nerds good on my part.
So, I mean, like they so, Imean, like, thank you. But then
it for a second. I was like, Iread a little too much. I was
like, then I just ignored it thenext, then I just ignored it.
So, I mean, like,
TD Flenaugh (17:06):
I love that. I love
it, Sage. So just doing what you
like to do, um, do your parentsor someone still read with you?
Because I know you read a lot byyourself. Do people still read
with you? Or just really, it'sby yourself?
Sagie the Bookworm (17:20):
Well, some
it's really about myself, but my
mom's a bookworm too, and when Iwas seven, we read, we read
almost all the Harry Potterstogether. I'm a big Harry Potter
fan. I am Hufflepuff.
TD Flenaugh (17:38):
Okay, all right,
yes, good. So your mom, you guys
both had a book, or you guyswere just reading one book
together?
Sagie the Bookworm (17:49):
Well, no, we
were reading one book together.
Nice. I was seven, so I couldn'tlike,
TD Flenaugh (17:55):
okay, she was
reading a little bit, and you
were reading a little bit, butshe was reading mostly, probably
maybe. Okay, nice.
Lauren Moseley (18:03):
Now. TD, I was
talking to Sage the other day,
and she told me she does havemultiple copies of some books,
because for that reason, so whenyou're reading with someone
right then you say you like tohave a copy, and then someone
else can have their copy. Isthat why you got two books?
Remember?
TD Flenaugh (18:20):
Well, so for Right
Back at You and IRL, yes, I got
it so me and my best friendcould read it together.
Oh, so did you guys, like, readaloud together? Or did you just,
like, I read chapter two andthen I'm talking to you about
chapter two, or you did both?
Sagie the Bookworm (18:38):
We haven't.
We haven't read it. We haven'trun it yet, together yet. Okay,
that's the plan on my own,because she's because she's at a
sleepover camp right now. So,
TD Flenaugh (18:47):
okay, she's at a
sleepover camp. You're doing
more day camps, yeah,
Sagie the Bookworm (18:51):
and then,
um, but I have been in a book
club with her. It was two othergirls and me and her, and we
both so what was happening so onone day, on one day, we went, we
went, trapped. Okay, I read thisone, you read that one. I read
this, you read that one, youread that one. I read we all
(19:13):
just read on our own. Then wejust did a report, then we
talked about each other. Then,bing bada, boom, done.
TD Flenaugh (19:21):
Tell me who, like,
how did it come about that you
guys had a book club?
Sagie the Bookworm (19:26):
Oh, so we,
um, so it was like a project of
third grade that we kind ofextended into the summer. Well,
not the whole third grade class,just us. Oh,
TD Flenaugh (19:41):
you sound like
you'd be a nice friend, a fun
friend to be around. That'snice. And they
Lauren Moseley (19:46):
extended it into
the summer that says, so much.
Yes,
TD Flenaugh (19:52):
that's amazing.
Okay, and then you did say youdid a book report. Is this the
school part, or that you guysthat did the book report? Or
that extended into summer.
Unknown (20:02):
School work, that's the
school part. But I have a book
report that I do on my own.
TD Flenaugh (20:07):
Okay, do tell, do
tell,
Sagie the Bookworm (20:10):
no, I just
got it. So I'm trying to, um,
about, I'm about to, like, tryto fill it out as much as I can
over over the summer, to see howmany books I can read.
TD Flenaugh (20:20):
So is that with it,
like the library, or from your
school, or you just found itonline, or what?
I love it.
Sagie the Bookworm (20:25):
There's this
book store, I'm right down the
My other friends, okay,street. It's called good on
paper. It's kid friendly. Youcould try out the books. It lets
you sit in there, and they don'tcall it technical ordering, and
that's right down, down thestreet. So me, my friend, me and
my friend go together.
Lauren Moseley (20:52):
They don't
accuse you of loitering. If you
sit there and read like for anhour, read the whole book, it's
fine. I'm gonna have to go checkthat out.
You have, you have an extend. Wecould tell you're a bookworm.
You're, you know, you have anextensive vocabulary. You know
you're talking about extendingthings into the school year and
also loitering. So yeah, andthen, like the sleep away camp,
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Her friendships are aroundreading.
TD Flenaugh (21:20):
Yeah,
Sagie the Bookworm (21:22):
great. Um,
my friend, my friend, Arden, she
likes to read me. Like,sometimes at recess, we read
together. Sometimes we do a bookrace, see how many books we
could finish during the week, orhow many chapters or pages. And
then we have to make sure. Thenwe have to make sure that we
(21:42):
know what the chapter is and wesay it. We're like, I know this.
I know
TD Flenaugh (21:48):
Yeah, you can't
just say you read it. You gotta
say. You gotta prove you readit. I got that.
Sagie the Bookworm (21:53):
You can't
just be like
TD Flenaugh (21:55):
Blah, blah, blah,
blah, blah, Like
accountability. I heard that.
Yeah,
Lauren Moseley (22:03):
right, right. I
love it.
TD Flenaugh (22:07):
Oh, my goodness. Do
you have a question? Oh, go
Lauren Moseley (22:11):
Question about
the IRL book is, is that a
ahead, please.
series, or is it that just onebook, or is there a series of
IRLs?
This book just came out in May.
Okay, who's the author?
Sagie the Bookworm (22:26):
Jenny go
Bell, okay,
TD Flenaugh (22:31):
well, I want to
also say I, I was intrigued by
the book too, because, you know,it says that they're in Alaska,
and I grew up in Alaska. Yes, Igrew up in Alaska, but, but, um,
unlike that book, we actuallydidn't, they didn't ever shut
down the school for anything. Wewent out to recess when it was
(22:52):
like 20 below, 30 below, yeah,and this is I credit. I credit
this to me becoming a teacherbecause I've never adjusted to
the cold, and I actually saythat I have cold phobia. And so
instead of being outside forrecess, I wanted to help my
teachers, so I helped themgrade, put up bulletin boards,
(23:14):
decorate, organize, anything butgoing outside in the cold so and
Lauren Moseley (23:22):
in the book,
they when, when it's cold, they
have online learning, right? Sothat's maybe an element of you
know, technology is it?
TD Flenaugh (23:30):
Maybe
Lauren Moseley (23:30):
and learn
online, and the kids don't have
to become popsicles at recess.
Sagie the Bookworm (23:37):
I used to do
that. I used to say, when I was
in third. Can I go to the can Igo to the office? I don't like
the bugs. I'm I have an extremefear of bugs. And I used to say,
I don't like the bugs. She said,No, but whatever.
TD Flenaugh (23:53):
At least you tried
Sagie the Bookworm (23:56):
My teacher,
he said, I have some students
come help me. I did somestudents get grade? Well, this
was two times clean up my roomand grade. So the first time was
with Miss shorten. She said,Come help me grade. And I helped
her grade and did everything.
But then I then it was Mr.
Banner, he said, he said, Comeclean up my room. Come help me
(24:17):
clean up my room. Not come cleanup my room, but he said, and I
said, All right, and I bring,and there were some friends with
me too, nice. I didn't
Lauren Moseley (24:28):
want to about
the big kids. They could grade,
they could clean, they could doall kind of
TD Flenaugh (24:32):
stuff. That's
awesome. So, oh yes, so you
teach first grade now, and youtaught older kids in the past?
Lauren Moseley (24:42):
Yes, so for
first graders, it's it's time
for recess. I want everyone togo out and run and burn off all
that first grade energy. Butyeah, those older kids can do so
much.
TD Flenaugh (24:54):
So for you Sage, I
want to ask you, because I teach
in Los Angeles and. I'll tellyou why I'm asking you this
question. But does this happenin your school? Like, do you
have to stay in sometimesbecause of the weather?
Sagie the Bookworm (25:09):
Yeah, of
course.
TD Flenaugh (25:11):
Yes. Okay, so what
kind of weather keeps you
inside?
Unknown (25:16):
Rain, thunder, rain,
thunder.
TD Flenaugh (25:20):
So not if it gets
too hot, too hot, too hot. Okay,
Sagie the Bookworm (25:25):
it was 107
and she said, Let's go outside.
But the other teacher was like,Nope, no,
TD Flenaugh (25:30):
too hot. Yeah, too
hot. Okay, yeah. So I'm gonna
tell you, because in LosAngeles, the kids can't go out
if it's a little drizzly - notlike thunderstorm, like a little
speck of water, and they'relike, nope, staying inside. They
said the kids could run andslip. And I guess people Sue out
(25:55):
here. So maybe they'll be like,they'll get sued or something. I
don't know. I don't know thatpart, but the kids can't play.
And so if it's too foggy, like,we had fires so it was smoky, so
they're like, you can't gooutside. It's too smoky outside.
And sometimes, but usually itdoesn't happen where it's too
hot. We don't usually get to 107in Los Angeles, but every once
(26:20):
in a while it's like, maybe alittle bit too hot, but it's not
very often at all.
Sagie the Bookworm (26:25):
Okay, so
that's about the fog, if it's
smoky, because sometimes you getthe house, right? The house or
the restaurant wrap up. Well,not restaurant, the house. They
have barbecues, the smoke, yeah,even if so I have, I use a
nebulizer when, like, my mylungs get blocked up. Yes, yeah,
(26:48):
if you have what, I don't knowwhat I have, but if you need a
nebulizer, a inhaler orwhatever, yeah, you can't say
inside, you go out. If there'ssmokes, go out. At this moment,
hold your breath.
TD Flenaugh (27:03):
Is that what
happens at your school? I'm
sorry. I don't mean to laugh,but is that what people say?
Sagie the Bookworm (27:13):
Okay, stay
just try to stay away from the
smoke, or just hold your breathwhen you pass, when you're
passing by, and we're like,
TD Flenaugh (27:20):
oh, okay, so it's
not smog in the air. There's
someone who is barbecuing nearbyin heaven. Okay, so it's a
little isolated. Not, not to sayit's okay, I'm just saying it's
a little bit more isolated than,like, just smoke everywhere,
like outside, yeah, because ofthe fires. Yeah, my, we call it.
(27:43):
They call it the wildland fire.
Some people call it, but, but,yeah, but I understand
Lauren Moseley (27:50):
barbecue ribs,
that's different.
TD Flenaugh (27:53):
Well, I hope
you're, you're okay, but you,
you have you, you able to keepit with you. You're a nebulizer.
We have a lot of kids here in LAthat have asthma and stuff like
that. So I know what you mean.
Sagie the Bookworm (28:09):
I know it's
a big machine, so I cannot carry
it around
TD Flenaugh (28:13):
Absolutely. Yeah,
Lauren Moseley (28:15):
yeah, that'd be
difficult.
TD Flenaugh (28:17):
But, like, listen
to your body, right, if you
could stay away from the smoke,but if you you know, if you're
like, surrounded by it, then youcould maybe go to the nurse's
office or something, advocatefor yourself.
Sagie the Bookworm (28:27):
I'm always
fine, because I just like to
stay away from it or staying ina closed area. Great.
TD Flenaugh (28:34):
Smart. Okay, well,
sage, I really enjoy talking to
you today, me and Miss Mosleyreally enjoyed talking to you.
Thank you for sharing all ofyour wisdom and experience with
reading. What makes you lovereading, and I hope we are
listening to the wise words ofSeiji the bookworm, and doing
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something today to help yourgive your kid a competitive
advantage. Tell them, bye. Sage,nice to meet y'all.
Lauren Moseley (29:10):
That was great.
Thank you, sage,
TD Flenaugh (29:14):
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