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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Another fabulous
episode of fan faces, action
packed lots of, lots of juicythings been two weeks, it has
been two, I mean two full weekweeks since how?
The last year?
But we still bring the heat,baby, since this is the baseball
playoff season playing thatcurveball to you.
Yes, you know me.
So, andrew, yes, how's the weekbeing?
(00:21):
How's your life been?
Press, it's horrible, like oursame.
Behind the scenes, I've had aspeaks and valleys what goes,
what goes down, what's come up,what's what comes up, let's go
down.
So let's just keep pluggingaway.
Find a hole, another hole topop.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
The nice thing is
that October is, to me, probably
one of the best months forsports, so this has been.
It's nice.
So a lot of good things towatch.
I see you're wearing yourbaseball hat today.
I'm wearing a baseball hattoday trying to figure out who's
left, boy, awesome.
What hat do I have left?
It's in it.
You have thymax, the Phillies,rangers and Astros, and I have
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Texas Rangers hat from when Iwas Dallas last December and Got
you a check out their ballpark.
It's really pretty.
It's a really nice ballpark.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Oh, that's great
Gotta have a enticing what's it
called.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
It's gonna be a
madhouse.
I'm playing against the Astros.
You know all the Houston fans,so the badger, the badger's
around the Dodgers, are out.
They got sweat.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
They spent all that
money on that big old, a big old
, big old roster.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
I think I saw a
Statistic that the Pittsburgh
Pirates had a better record thanthe New York Mets and the Mets
had the highest payroll at allthe baseball.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Well, it goes to show
you all about talent, baby.
But before we even move further, let's talk about, let's, let
me say, some of the topics thatwe're diving into.
We got a little bit of collegefootball Andrews feeling, you
know, hyped about it.
We got a little bit of NFLfootball.
A little bit of football, alittle bit of scandal it's
(01:58):
happening in there, you know,mixing up a little bit.
We got the NBA preseasonstarting off.
We got Wembe and Chet, you know, let's see where that goes.
We will dive into that.
We got a what's it called?
Drake and Joe Budden going backand forth.
That it basically Drake goingat it with anybody who Won't
smoke.
He's out here, dog broski, freesmoke, free smoke.
(02:19):
Baby.
Trying to hit up my Canadianact, my Toronto accent it's not
the greatest, but you know I'mtrying to have much of an accent
.
No, the Toronto's a, theToronto Canadians, they do.
They go, dog broski, do they?
Yeah, I was watching a lot oftiktok chest and they're like
what's up dog, what's up broski?
(02:40):
Don't get me cheese stuck here,man.
I'm like, oh god.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
You're from Jamaica.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
It's a mix of British
English.
It's a bit of British English,jamaican, patsy, and American.
They just and maybe French,canadian as well they mix
everything in there in a pot.
But, uh, let's get the show on.
The road I had to go on hit uswith what?
Speaker 2 (03:03):
let's, let's talk
about the Colorado buffalos.
I got home from work last nightearly.
It was 29 to nothing.
They're being Sanford At halftime 29 nothing.
And then I was getting cleanedup ill food turned about to the
game it's 29 19.
Yeah, this game's over.
I'm gonna bet that's what weall thought.
Wake up and Stanford came backand beat him in overtime.
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That is the biggest slice ofhumble pie if you're up 29,
nothing at home and you losethat game.
I mean the.
Hey, look the odds been greatfor the, for the college
football scene.
No denying that.
The energy, the, the charisma,the confidence, awesome, I love.
Talk to Dion, talk to Dion, thebest, it's just awesome.
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So refreshing to hear this.
To lobby or root for him tolose 29 to 0 after that lead,
that's a nice.
That's not a slice of humblepie, that is the whole pie.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Well, here's the
crazy thing, right.
It's not like Sanford's, thatgreat, no well, they found
something else working for themand they kept going back to it
over and over again.
But here's a crazy thing.
Colin says as a head coach,your side of the ball should
always be ready to go.
Dion side of the ball is notoffense as defense, he's one of
the greatest cornerbacks thatever played a game.
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A Super Bowl champion, ormultiple, multiple teams set
multiple records and what's itcalled?
The defense is just not playingup to keeping up the snuff with
the offense.
And and I'm not a football fan,I'm not a football coach by any
means but it seems like theBuffalo defense, colorado,
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buffalo's defense, need to getback to the fundamentals and
Basically tackle, wrap around.
Don't let guys bounce off youlike ping-pong balls, because
that's what all I'll see.
The Cardinals were running a lotof crossing routes and Colorado
seems to not just be able totackle these guys like they got
Slick fingers, slicked hands andthey like roll themselves up in
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oil, which is, you know, youplay, you just try yourself, as
a college football team, is afootball team period to be um, a
4-quarter football team.
All four quarters go from thefirst quarter to the fourth
quarter.
Play tough, play hard, execute,execute, execute.
And Dion prides himself inexecution but His how to ball
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the defense is not executing.
They seem to.
I mean, they're playing in thepack 10, which you know.
They're not known for theirtremendous defense.
All the games are always highscore and whatever all the teams
that pick play in the pack 12,high flying teams and they never
really play a great defense,but they score on you a ton.
And Dion, well packed, is it?
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Packed 12?
A packed test by 12.
It's really packed, okay, pack12.
So you know there has to besome Dion.
Your side of the ball needs toget, you know, fine-tuned a
little bit.
Your one and three in your lastthree games.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
I'm a fan.
I'm a fan of what you've donefor college football, what you,
what you will do for collegefootball.
But that rope, as a defensiveminded head coach, that's what
we'll put it out there, as youneed to have these guys on the
tight leash.
They need to tackle a lotbetter than they are tackling in
the second half some games.
I actually said you can't belosing games when you can't be
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losing games, high-scoring gameslike that, when your coach, as
a defensive minded coach, it'snot a Lincoln Riley, it's not,
you know, michael Fennix Jr Idon't know the coach's name over
there and Washington so thosegames they're gonna run you out
of the stadium needs to playsome great defense and maybe
keep Travis Hunter on one sideof the ball.
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He's great, sure, but playingso many snaps, you need energy.
Either put him on defense andmake him the greatest corner of
college football has ever seen,or put him on offense, make him
the greatest wide receivercollege football has ever seen.
But as it stands right now, theteam can't do both.
The team's not ready, it's notcapable.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
You're four and two
now, so nothing that they lost
to you, right?
They lost Oregon.
They've lost to USC in USC.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
So four and three,
four and three.
So tighten up that belt, cowboy.
Get on out there.
Man, do your thing on thedefensive side of the ball.
You got your door, sanders, theoffense is fine, but the
defense 25, if the unsanders iswatching this point.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Man, thanks a lot.
I'm different boys.
I really didn't start up thegame for defense.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Your defensive minded
coach.
You need to motivate these guys.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
It's not necessarily
coaching, I think motivation is
the least of what is concerned.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
I think the unsanders
motivates very well you know
they motivate as four quartersin a game and you could.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
You could motivate
more.
We want.
They saw the brother andperform.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Your team lose the
motivation.
A second and a second half thatthey lost motivation.
They just did you.
They can't tackle.
What's that called?
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Sandwich is being
better.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
No, stanford,
exploiting what they see out
there.
If you're playing zone, they'reexploiting your zone and
clearly it's not working for you.
Put a scheme out there.
Clearly that fit the guys thatplay play for you.
That's, that's it.
But uh, let's keep it pushing.
Man, the state of coloradohaving a terrible, terrible
month really and, uh, terribleweek Because the browncoast lost
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Denver Brownco's, they losttheir one five.
Now, sean Payton, right, allthat big talk lost to the Jets,
that you know that that couldhave gone either way.
No, losing to the Jets, butlosing to losing to, uh, the KC
the way you did.
It's like the offense had norhythm whatsoever, couldn't get
going.
The running game was fine, butthe passing game, total garbage.
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Bro, what's happening, seanPayton?
You came out here guns of lazy.
He's looking for that number onepick at this point.
He can't.
Well, you still gotta pay, uh,russell Wilson.
So that's uh.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
No, they'll.
They'll buy him out this yearand then they'll be done.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
So you feel Russell
Wilson's gonna give up all that
money?
Speaker 2 (09:08):
No, they, the Broncos
, have an option.
They have the option to pay him.
I think it was like the 37million dollars for this.
For If they do a buyout, ifthey don't, if they don't Buy
him out before a certain date atthe end of this year, I think
it's like they have to pay himlike the full amount, which is
like something like 80 somethingor more than that Way, more
than that.
Anyway, I don't know the exactnumbers, but yeah, they're gonna
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let him go this year.
In other words, they're lettingthem go.
He's done, you'll get his money.
Then he'll be gonna be out.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Isn't that?
That's crazy.
So here's the crazy part.
All right, bill Belichick, yes,sucking right now.
Yes, they're saying Tom Bradywas the reason why he was
successful all those years.
Okay, that's a.
Wilson goes to Denver, denver'sgarbage, two years in a row,
piquero.
So two end of the spectrumshere.
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One end is given the coach allthis love For being able to
pivot and doing things, and thenone end given the quarterback
all this love.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
She like would you
know, smith, and what Piquero's
doing?
Do you know Smith?
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Yes, yes, well,
piquero's doing with you know,
smith, it's like whoa, okay, itwas early.
You.
What time waiting, one timewaiting.
Did with up your bell check.
Wow, okay, wow, okay, it wasearly, you it wasn't.
You know the head coach, sothat's just crazy.
But uh, sean Peyton, I knowit's year one, but you came out
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their guns of blazing talkingabout every Everybody's coach,
up and down, and what they canand cannot do, bro, yeah, just
don't talk crap about it.
Keep your glasses on, lookstraight ahead and say nothing
else big old, big old.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
He gets the whole pie
too for the home pie slice the
whole one.
But you know, you know, justbecause he's having a bad year
doesn't mean he's not gonna besuccessful there.
It's like, remember, with jimmyjohnson when he came to the
dow's cowboys his first year, heonly won a game.
Well, no, andrew, there's onegame he won that entire year and
two years later he's no, no,andrew win the super.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
I'll say this what
when jimmy johnson moved?
When jimmy johnson came to thecowboys, they were terrible, of
course, and he was back then.
You've given it long leash,long leashes had coaches.
Nowadays, if shawarma the biggoes to a terrible Rams team
turns them around, boom.
Mike McGannell's goes to uh,the dolphins.
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Two year a year.
Two year turning around, boom.
Sean Peyton, super boy winningcoach.
How long at least do you thinkhe'd have if you can't turn him
around?
Because it's an offensiveleague now what?
Speaker 2 (11:37):
okay.
So then what do all thosecoaches have in common that have
been turned it around?
Speaker 1 (11:41):
they had a
quarterback.
Russell wilson is a quarterback, his numbers of tremendously
improved.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
He plays the
quarterback position.
No, no, no.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Not only did he play
the quarterback position, he's a
super boy winning quarterback.
Okay, so by the team, that wasmainly by those standards.
Sean Peyton should turn thisteam around pronto, because
supposedly he fixed theoffensive offensive.
Coaches are good at fixing theoffensive line Right, and you
know, you come in, you fixedoffensive line, you fixed a
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quarterback.
That's what he took the job todo.
Okay, and right now it's nothappening.
So, right now it's nothappening.
No, it's not happening.
Things not going as they should, that's what they're gonna
draft in the quarterback.
Who do you think so?
There's a plethora ofquarterbacks out there.
There's drake main, from uh, uh, south Carolina, and then
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there's, uh, michael fennix, jr.
And then there's, uh, what's itcalled?
Caleb Williams, usc.
Those are, you know, the topthree names, didn't know.
And then you could add theirshadoor sanders.
If he comes out, even thosefathers says he's not coming out
.
Who do you think would best fita shampaitin-esque system?
A guy with a big arm.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Yeah, you have to
give the big arm.
I'm asking true breeze.
True breeze wasn't that mobile,so it doesn't really need a
mobile quarterback.
No times of change.
You do need a mobilequarterback.
Could you breeze out as amobile buddy?
Speaker 1 (12:59):
still was doing very
well.
You need a mobile quarterback.
In his day and age, linebackersare coming in fast, running
like four fours.
Get the hell out the way if youcan't run.
But you get smashed and youhave a very short career.
But you know, let's uh get getit moving out of the state of
colorado.
And uh, football wise funny,the Minnesota Vikings.
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They have won one game, onegame and they got all this
talent.
That's crazy.
They got an offensive mind ofcoach too.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Yeah, but a lot of
their talents injured.
This is Jefferson out now for awhile, yeah, yeah.
So I mean it's funny that likeher cousins is now like the hot
topic of trade Demands and ryancanna hill like like what are
the jets gonna do?
Speaker 1 (13:44):
the jet should take
none of them.
None of them, I agree suck andgo get the first year first.
First of all, traffic.
I agree, I called him that.
I agree, build your team thatway, but will rob a solid end up
being a coach there.
Yeah, he's he willing to riskit?
I think they'll give anotheryear.
Well, uh onto uh.
Who are they replacing with Anoffensive minded head coach?
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Yeah, somebody from sanfrancisco staff.
Excuse me, I got a bad cough Sanfrancisco, san francisco and
filia, 5 and odoni undefeatedteams in the nfl.
Yeah, that's crazy.
There's, there's like them.
And then the rest of the league, the rest of the league.
Okay, canna cities, four andone, but that's like it.
The rest of the nfl is likethree and two or two and two.
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There's like three teams thatare separating themselves from
the pack.
Oh, no, four, two.
A fc teams are four and one.
Two nfc teams are five and all.
Yeah, the dolphins are four andone and everybody else is just
boxing it out.
The bills had a terrible gameagainst, uh, against a
jacksonville.
Why do you think that was?
Speaker 2 (14:47):
that they're having.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
What a bad the bills
had a terrible game in london at
a tottenham stadium.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Chots on because well
, because, well, first off, the
uh, they're complaining aboutthe field.
Yes, they said it was a risk,which is, I'm surprised, because
I thought that field is grassbecause of the, the soccer team,
because they all play on.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
They all play on
grass.
No, they can change it.
They can change the field, sowhy?
Speaker 2 (15:08):
would they change?
They're already grass field andput the the turf down.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
I don't know.
It's a bounce with you,probably just played on the.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
They just should have
played on the grass.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Well, they probably
didn't want the Grassfield to be
.
You know, I, I mean I, Iunderstand.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
I mean I was at the
was it wasn't just the last
Super Bowl?
Uh, that was in arizona, um,and they were complaining about
the field on that one too, likeit was just very slippery yeah.
Was that?
Was that the last Super Bowl?
Yeah, yeah it was very slippery.
Yeah, it's just, and they're,they're really claiming to get
the uh, the uh, all the grass,and I guess, I guess the NFL PA
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wants that as well.
And the NFL is like, well, Idon't know, it's not that easy,
and I'm like, yeah, it is.
I mean, you guys are amulti-billion dollar company.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
It's grass gross on
grass man, you don't have to be
a multi-billion dollar companyto just do what needs to be done
to correctly make things happen.
I agree, that's just it.
I just gotta get started, Ilike how it's not that easy.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
But yeah, like the
foundations of football, they
all had grass until like what?
The 70s?
Well they're really.
Other than that, every team hadgrass.
Andrew turf is easier tomaintain.
Well, they seem to be doing itwell for the first four years of
the NFL.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Because you don't
have to cut it.
It's standard all the time, andonce the lines have been
painted on, they just need torepaint every now and then.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
I'm just saying
Simple.
It seemed to work well for theNFL for the first like 40, 50
years, until they had themulti-purpose stadiums that
started to come out.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Well, that's because
owners decided that they needed
to find other ways to make money.
A stadium can just cannot justbe for one thing, one use.
There's concerts that arehappening and real grass gets
destroyed during concertsbecause you're moving lots of
equipment in and out of thearena.
So they needed to make good useof their venues, not just for
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the season.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Well, their product's
going to suffer if all their
high quality players are goingto injure on their garbage turf.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Yeah the bill's got a
lot of defensive players
injured, yeah, lots, and offensecouldn't move for nothing.
Grass would be nice.
But besides that it's also thefact that time zone change, the
bills didn't leave here untilThursday night and London's five
hours.
There's a five hour differencefrom America and you got to get
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adjusted, otherwise you're notmoving.
But I mean Josh Shalon towardslike the fourth quarter they
tried.
He put up some big numbers,even though it's garbage time
numbers.
Put up some big numbers, butyou guys got to.
If you haven't overseas game,you got to just find a way to
get there earlier, especially ifyou're just practicing here,
because Jacksonville had a wholeweek there to prepare for you
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to come.
So they were obviously smootherin transition versus you coming
in the next day underestimatingthem when you need to win every
game.
Because the first seed in theNFL, from each division, the AFC
, from each league, the AFC andthe NFC, the number one overall
seed, gets a buy, not top two,that's true.
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So you need to.
Every game counts so that wecan get a buy.
So instead of playing four orsix games, you're playing four
games to get to that, to get tochampionship.
So keep that in mind.
But let's meander and smooththat way on to the NBA.
The NBA preseason has started.
Also, hockey preseason hasstarted.
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Buffalo, that's Pittsburgh.
Pittsburgh, pittsburgh, pirate,pittsburgh.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Penguins Buffalo has
never won a San Jacop.
They've been to the finalstwice in their 50-something plus
years of existence.
What is it 1970, so what is it2023?
53?
53 years now of existence andthey've only been to the finals
twice.
Well, it's all right 1975, 1999, and that's it.
And then the Vegas wins thechampionship.
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They're defending champions inthe middle league for six years.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
They found a way to
get players that care.
No, you got players that havebeen outcast from every other
team and they came together.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
They found it was us
versus them.
They have a good system overthere, much better than.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Buffalo.
It worked out, but it workedout great for them.
But onto basketball.
We got Chet Chet I don't knowChet's last name Chet Holgram
from Oklahoma Thunders, theOklahoma Thunders, and Victor
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Wimbanyama, the two towers.
They're supposed to be the nexttwo marquee players, but
they're both very, very, veryskinny players, very tall but
very skinny.
How do you think they're goingto hold up to the test of time
with their bodies?
Andrew?
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Well, history is a
great lesson for us.
Probably not long Think abouteven like.
I think the skinniest playerthat I could think of is Manu.
Paul Sean Bradley were bothreally skinny.
They didn't really have verysuccessful careers.
I imagine that Chet and Victorare going to be a lot better
than those two.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Well, there's
definitely better nutrition now
and training that you can do toyou know, hopefully, but
hopefully and long, get yourcareer.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
It's hard.
I mean, not everybody can havea career like Krimagul Jibar,
who plays in the league for like20 years.
Okay, well, let's transition.
And Kimu Aijuam, you know like,have been centers that have had
very good long careers.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Let's transition.
Which one of them you think isgoing to have a longer career?
Five-year career?
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Oh, I think Victor
would I mean because Chet
already had a season injury lastyear, okay, so he's already has
that on him.
So if I had to make a bet rightnow, it's Victor.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
So would you also
consider Victor to have a
successful career if he has alonger career?
Speaker 2 (20:59):
Yeah, yeah, I mean,
from everything that's been
shown already, the fact that NBAthey don't play defense very
much anyway.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
It's hard to play
defense when you're going on
both ends all the time.
Offense defense, one player,sure.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Of course I don't
know how they did in the 80s and
90s, but they seem to do itWell.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
People couldn't shoot
so well.
In the 80s and 90s theycouldn't.
They couldn't shoot so well.
Really, there's better shootersnow.
Look at stuff.
What are you talking about?
Speaker 2 (21:24):
How it's.
English was an awesome shirt inthe 80s, and you have Chris
Malone as a great shooter.
How?
Speaker 1 (21:29):
many points do they
have?
You don't know.
You have to look that out, butthere's way better shooters now.
How.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
English almost
averaged like 30 points a game
in the 80s.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
She was awesome,
Andrew.
There's way better shooters nowthan there was in the 80s and
90s.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
You don't think,
larry Bird, larry Bird.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Larry Bird doesn't
have half the points that Steph
has.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Larry Bird has played
in the NBA for like 10 years
now.
Is it because he had back?
Speaker 1 (21:49):
He's not a better
shooter than Steph, okay or Clay
.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Or Clay Thompson or.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Clay Thompson.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
You don't think Larry
Bird's a better shooter than
Clay Thompson?
Speaker 1 (21:56):
No, clay has a lot of
points.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Splash bro, but they
don't play defense today.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
They do.
Golden State does play defenseLook.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
I love Clay.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Clay is the best
defender.
What was the best defender onGolden State when he played?
That's not saying.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
No, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no no.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Yes, he was one of
the best defenders on Golden
State.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Better than Jermaine,
yes.
Better than Jermaine yes.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
Jermaine kicked
people in the balls.
Clay was asked to ask the guard.
The next great guy on the otherteam.
Okay, he was.
These are facts.
Look them up.
All right, jermaine plays.
Jermaine's the bully on theteam.
He's a tough guy on the team.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
He's a good defender.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
That's like.
Dennis Rodman and Bill Ambeerbullies on the pistons, but I do
believe right now this day andage 2023, Andrew, they shoot the
ball way better than they didin the 80s.
That is all these kids that.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
Nobody puts a hand in
the face in today's NBA.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
They do.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
You can agree with me
or whatever.
I can't even hand check today,in today's NBA, you don't have
to.
They can touch.
No, they're playing body rollsagainst them.
I understand the shooters areway better today than they were
then.
Don't live in nostalgia?
Speaker 2 (23:05):
I'm not living in
nostalgia, these kids.
But they say here to be likeChris Moore can't shoot, or
Larry Burr can't compete withothers.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
No, no, no, they're
not no, there's a few you know
outliers out there.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Michael Jordan, for
example, is a great shooter,
Andrew there's a few outliersout there.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
I understand that,
but today's shooters, the guys
that you know, you don't, youwouldn't, you wouldn't consider
a shooter per se as a bettershooter than a shooter in the 80
.
Wow, because you're given no,there's no hand checks, but
you're given an opportunity.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Reggie Miller.
Like you don't even thinkReggie Miller could compete in
today's NBA.
Reggie Miller was a singer.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
I said I said.
I said there's a few outliersOf course there's always, but
there's the shooting today isbetter than it was back then.
It has to be, not have to be.
It is better.
Washington NBA right now.
It's a skill sport these kidsthat specialize in, just they
play basketball.
They're not playing multiplesports, they're playing
basketball year round.
There's that.
So that alone gives you a handup.
(24:01):
It's like kids playing seven onseven.
That alone helps kids playfootball better, because they're
so specialized, because that'sall they do 24, seven.
They go to camps during thesummer.
They play in their school.
They go, they have a personaltrainer that that helps them out
.
They have all these specializedthings that happen.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
So they have to be
all these specialized things to
make their life easier toperform and make a better shoot.
Yes, All right, that's it.
So today shooters are better.
I disagree.
I would still put Reggie Milleragainst anybody on that.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
You put Reggie Miller
over Steph.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
I would, and a
viewpoint contest I would.
No, I think I would Okay.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Andrew, okay.
Okay, that's one point.
I think stuff, but you'retalking about stuff.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
He's probably
arguably the greatest shooter in
big history.
Anybody else in the entire NBAyes, I would put Reggie Miller.
I'd sacrifice any of them Allright?
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Well, I put Reggie
Miller against Steph.
Yes, that's what I'm doing.
That's why I'm making my point.
Okay, there's better shooterstoday than there was shooters,
that's plural shooters.
There's better shooters today.
Give me so.
Give me one, dave.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Dave Lillard.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
I don't think he's
better than Reggie Miller.
He's a better shooter thanReggie Miller.
Okay For sure he's a bettershooter than Reggie Miller.
Clay is a better shooter thanReggie Miller.
Clay got Reggie Miller beatingpoints.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Reggie Miller when
it's all said and done, maybe
like a hundredth when it's allsaid and done, with all the
shooters we got.
Come on, put, put, put VictorWumbanyama better shooter than
Reggie Miller, and he's a sevenfooter.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
He's just going to
lay up every shot.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
No, he can shoot too.
Have you seen the boy's shoot?
Yeah, he's a silky shot.
He's a better shooter thanReggie Miller.
Come on, okay.
So onto, you know I'll do which.
I'll agree with you that VictorWumbanyama is going to have a
better career because he has abetter foundation and spurs
organization.
That's, that's why I'll agreeto that, and also the fact that
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Chet Holmgren also has had aninjury plague season.
So you can't, you can't, youcan't one when you're a seven
foot plus, once you startgetting injured and you don't
get less injured, they justcontinue to add up and pile up.
As the years go on and as youcontinue to grow your body, your
body tends to wake, deceive youand wake down on you a little
(26:19):
bit more.
So that's only natural, butthat's understandable.
On to popular topics.
We got that boy, drizzy Drake.
Oh, popular topics with thefootball as well.
Before we get to Drizzy Drake,we got Buffalo Bill's co workers
not football players, but coworkers in at ministerial
(26:41):
positions.
You got the COO, john Roth, outhere smashing, smashing the
legal counsel, catherineD'Angelo.
D'angelo, I've been told bysomebody that Catherine's a fox.
So they weren't hiding it, theyweren't trying to perpetrate it
.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
There are pictures on
the internet, so it's not hard
to.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
No, I mean it's not
public.
It's public information, butyou have to go looking for said
information, it's not like.
Here's a picture on the.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
Yeah, just click on
the story, then you'll see the
picture.
So we go ahead.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
So you know, they
were, they were, they were, they
were out in London and theytake it upon themselves to take
a mini vacation as a couple andbe be unadvisable and behavior
Very boisterous with theirromance, I guess.
You can't do that if you worktogether, and especially if one
of you is married, not in frontof the whole territory,
especially if one of you ismarried, and this reminds me of
(27:33):
a situation with Emae Dooku,ex-head coach of the Boston
Celtics.
He's dating Neil Long and he'ssmashing somebody that he's
working with.
You can't do that, it doesn'twork like that.
So, guys, you gotta be cold forit out here if you're trying to
do business like that.
All right, you can be a COO,head of an organization, chief
(27:55):
Executive Officer I mean chief,whatever officer you are you
can't be out here.
You know, swinging your sword,dingle it all, really nearly you
gotta tame that down.
But uh, that's all right,what's up?
Excuse me.
No, that's all right.
That's all I gotta say aboutthat.
But on to uh Drake and JoeBudden.
Drake, you're my guy.
(28:16):
You're an artist, though You'republic domain and you're public
property.
If somebody analyzes your albumand says it's not the best, I'll
add your button.
You shoot the shots that youshot.
It's like there's a personalunderlying beef with them,
because if anybody else says it,you just let her fly by.
And also, birdman, you need toleave these people alone.
Man, you can't be out hereslinging around, uh,
(28:37):
intimidating threats.
Like you know, you may need torespect my artist.
Your artists are public domain.
They're out there.
They're putting music for thepeople and the people, included
those in the media.
Joe Budden has the right to saywhat he said.
He didn't comment youpersonally.
He just said he didn't feelthat that's your best album,
best work.
The album's called For All myDogs.
(28:58):
It's not your best album, inhis opinion.
Life goes on.
You continue to create frompeople that appreciate you.
I'm right here.
And uh, don't mind the JoeBudden's of the world or the
critics of the world, becauseclearly your fans enjoy you.
And if Joe Budden doesn't enjoyyou, life goes on.
You're still making money.
You're still living your life,drake, and that's all I got to
(29:21):
say about that.
And there's no need for reallyback and forth between you and
Joe Budden, trying to undresshim as hard as you.
And dress them, call them.
And he retired and we didn'tretire his jersey.
That's kind of like, uh, paulPierce.
They told Paul Pierce what youthink you Kobe.
Now You're not getting a Kobetour.
You can't uh running aroundhere because you know he thought
(29:44):
he was hot stuff, paul Pierceor the Boston Celtics, he
thought he was hot stuff.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
He wasn't.
He's good with the Celtics andI was pretty much in.
Then he went to the BrooklynNets, Didn't do anything with
him and Kevin Gardner was onthat team also.
Yeah, yeah yeah, I mean it wasa decent team, it was
competitive, didn't even make itpast the first round.
Anyway, I think it was.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
You do, paul Pierce
your garbage.
That's what Andrew was saying.
He's not garbage, hot garbage,hot poopoo garbage.
That's what Andrew was saying.
He just wants to beprofessional about it.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
I remember that one,
this one game he went off on the
New Jersey Nets, like I thinkif he was 2002, it was the
playoffs and they were down bigin Boston and Paul Pierce went
nuts and they came back, won thegame.
They ended up losing the series, but I remember when they won
that game it was like, oh,series over Boston's the win.
They're going to go to thefinals.
They still lost, but the hellof the game.
I remember that.
(30:32):
I think that was 2002 and theybeat the Nets.
I wasn't into basketball then.
Yeah, he was great man.
Paul Pierce was a goodbasketball player for sure.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Keeping in line with
popular culture and popular
people, david Beckham releasedNetflix special.
Do you know who David Beckhamis?
Andrew?
Speaker 2 (30:47):
No, who is David
Beckham?
You really don't know.
No, I really have no clue whoDavid Beckham is.
Go ahead.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
No, sarcasm Be real.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
Yeah, he's known in
Inter Miami.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
He's one of the
owners of Inter Miami.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
I'm here for
Manchester United.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Tell the people Don't
tell me.
Well, you're asking me, I'masking because, andrew, you do
live in a bubble, you do.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
He's married to
Victoria Beckham.
Posh Spice, okay, okay, I mean,he is literally probably one of
the famous people at the time,like early 2000s.
He was like you have to live inIraq, and David Beckham,
there's a lot of stuff I bringup that you don't know about, so
I brought up the Drake and JoeButton beef You're like?
Speaker 1 (31:25):
oh, hold on.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
That's beef between
Joe Button and.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
David Beckham.
Drake is an internationalartist.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
Okay, but I don't
know who he has problems with,
or?
Speaker 1 (31:37):
Andrew, my point is I
know who Drake is.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
I know his music.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
Exactly so when
something about him, so I got it
should pop up on your timeline.
He's pretty famous, just likeDavid Beckham, drake's very
famous.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Okay, go ahead.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
But anyhow, david
Beckham had a Netflix special
for episodes or so and theepisode they graze over the fact
that he had an affair when hewas in Madrid.
He was in Spain, he played forReal Madrid for a little bit
there and then after that hecame over to America.
But he was there and they askedhim David, your teammates are
(32:17):
all single and you're not.
How are you going to deal withbeing out in Madrid With all
these You're a handsome man withall these women throwing
themselves at you?
He's like well, I'm happilymarried, I'm doing my thing.
Me and my wife and my kids wereall good.
And then news broke out that hehad an affair.
Really, yeah, he had an affair.
I am living in a bubble.
(32:38):
Go ahead.
No, not maybe.
You definitely are in a bubble.
There's lots of things that Ibring up there.
You're like I don't know, Idon't care, it's just a little
bit of shit, I guess Go ahead.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
That could be it too.
Go ahead, but Tell me aboutthose guys in the fair.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
No, they glazed over
the fair in the special because
normally they'd sell the womanthat you had an affair with.
They'd talk about theindividual.
They didn't talk about it, andit felt like they're trying to
keep David Beckham's image verypolished and maintain it as well
, maybe because he paid for it.
He paid for the special or hedecided he had final edition
(33:13):
edits on it.
So they glazed over it becausenaturally, if you're going to
talk about somebody's life, youtalk about all aspects of his
life, especially when you'reputting it on tape, especially
when David Beckham and they'refamous like he is.
He's a world renowned guy,known doubled world over.
So I was just a little takenaback by the fact that he had an
(33:39):
affair but didn't show thewoman.
Well, I hope they don't.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
Oh, thanks to social
media and this day and age that
we know who the woman isSometimes, when people have
these situations that are kindof embarrassing, everyone needs
to know about it.
Yeah, if you're famous, you'republic domain.
I disagree, I just think as-.
No, you could disagree, but Iknow and it's my personal
opinion is just because you'repart Maybe that's why you think
I live in a bubble.
It's not that I think you livein a bubble but continue.
(34:06):
Maybe I just don't care to knoweverybody's personal business.
You know what I mean.
Like he had an affair, maybeI'm sure he felt really bad
about it, or he had an argumentwith his wife about it and the
fact that that I don't even knowabout that, that's just man's
business.
I can't believe you're shit.
Like you know, I feel bad aboutthe situation.
That's not a cool thing, butit's.
(34:27):
You know, sometimes it happensand you know, move on.
You don't need to like.
A whole entire world needs todissect the situation now,
because everyone's got their ownproblems.
They all have to do it.
I think that's probably why Idon't give a shit so much.
It's like Drake and Joe Budden.
You made a critique on an album.
Drake didn't like it.
Okay, so he didn't like it.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
No, lots of people
make it was deeper than he
didn't like it.
He untressed a man to the worldOn an Instagram post.
It's not like oh, he didn'tlike it.
Whatever, forget you it's.
Oh, you didn't like it.
Oh, you're a bum anyways.
Why should people listen to you?
Anybody that has a dream outthere, go follow your dream.
Don't listen to somebody thatdoesn't make money off of music.
Tell you what to do about asfar as being a musician.
(35:07):
So he untressed Joe Budden, notjust like yeah, I'm good bro,
he gave Joe Budden a pop.
That's what I feel like, butbefore we end this show, I'd
like to say shout out to thatboy.
He's a serial union rapper.
His name is Driz Leek.
He was on Cypher on BET andthat's our first man.
(35:28):
We're moving, baby, we'removing.
Shout out to the boy, driz Leek, and shout out to all the Final
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We make good music.
It's only a matter of time.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
It is good music.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
It's only a matter of
time before we strike oil.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
Send it to Joe Budden
.
Let's see who he thinks.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
Maybe he might like
it, joe Budden.
It'd be hard to get to JoeBudden, but there's a record
company out there called Empireand they're out in California
Empire, holla Records, empireRecords.
They still exist.
A version of it exists and theyare.
They take care of.
They signed a lot of Afro beatartists A lot.
(36:05):
Really, yes, great.
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