Join the conversation with the insightful Mohamed as we delve into one of today's most pressing issues: sustainable energy in Sierra Leone. Discover the urgency of overhauling the nation's energy infrastructure and what sustainability means for the average Sierra Leonean. We cover the stark contrast in access to electricity between Sierra Leone and countries like America, and how this impacts everything from healthcare to local businesses. Listen as we unveil the potential of wind turbines and solar panels to revolutionize Sierra Leone's energy sector, and the challenges of updating infrastructure that hasn't been touched since the British colonial era.
As Amadu the Great, I'm excited to share how a consistent electricity supply could transform lives in Sierra Leone. In this episode, we highlight the societal, environmental, and economic benefits of sustainable development, and how access to energy is a game-changer for quality of life. The ripple effects of energy access on economies and communities are unpacked, drawing comparisons to the convenience revolution brought on by services like Amazon. Tune in to hear us navigate the trade-offs involved in investing in infrastructure, and how we can balance progress with the well-being of our nation.
Wrapping up, we cast a vision for the future of Sierra Leone's energy sector, emphasizing the importance of green policies and renewable sources, particularly solar energy. Imagine a Sierra Leone where every new building is equipped with solar panels, creating a greener and more independent nation. We discuss incentives that could fast-track solar adoption and ponder the long-lasting effects of sustainable progress. This isn't just another sports debate; it's an engaging dialogue about Sierra Leone's development in energy and infrastructure. Join us on Fan Faces for an episode that promises to spark conversation and inspire action.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Another fabulous episode of Fan Faces.
It's been a while.
It's been a while but I got aguest here, a repeat guest.
I'm at Bangorah, he's in thebuilding.
He's here to educate us,educate the Sierra Leonean
people, educate the world atlarge, educate Americans, you
know, just to give us someinsight on sustainability and
(00:21):
renewables.
And I thought I'd bring themback for part two because this
is information that we, thepeople, want to know.
Me, I want to know I'm superinterested in the renewables,
I'm super interested insustainability, and that's
because I come home from Salonand we come home from Salon and
(00:42):
you day you get for a beeffamily with 10 things and they
cause.
We get electricity, 24-7electricity.
We have electricity but it'snot like when you're in America.
Electricity breaks down inAmerica, takes an hour or so.
They fix it.
Electricity breaks down inSierra Leone.
Maybe you get it today, maybeyou don't get it today, maybe
(01:03):
you get it a month later.
It all depends on where youlive.
But today we're here to, youknow, discuss some things that
possibly, moving on in thefuture, sierra Leone is ever
growing, ever evolving.
We're here to just have youknow.
People think about certainthings and keep it in the back
of their mind and especiallywith the new communities that
(01:25):
are coming up, like you know,you have Tokyo, you have
Hastings, the newer communitiesthat are rising, we need to
start to use, we need to startdirecting our energy towards
renewable energy, wind turbinesand stuff like that to grow the
country's electricityinfrastructure, because I know,
(01:46):
with electricity being a stableconstant in our lives in Sierra
Leone, it would make for a greatchange in the country.
It would make for a greatimprovement.
And there's already somecelebrities coming in, one
celebrity, idris Elba, coming inin Sierra Leone, but we'll get
into that a little later.
But, mohamed, talk to thepeople, sure, sure.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
I'm very happy to be here again and to share my take
on clean energy in Sierra Leoneand generally on sustainability.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
So sustainability to the common person that doesn't
know what is that?
Speaker 2 (02:26):
So maybe I think, in short, when we talk about
sustainability, we areessentially just saying I mean,
usually you hear people sayingsustainability, sustainable
development.
Essentially they are saying anydevelopment where you are
catering for the currentgeneration with something in
(02:47):
mind to ensure that futuregenerations are not deprived
from resources.
So essentially, in short, thatis sustainable development.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
So ever evolving the issue we have in Sierra Leone.
We wanted our independence.
We got it in 1961.
The British left us and wenever really developed or
evolved our infrastructure wedon't have.
Some houses don't have fullplumbing, some houses don't have
full electricity.
The British left us with aninfrastructure but we never
(03:21):
added on to it, improved on it,because in most other countries
your infrastructure is improvedupon so that way when you go
build a house, you have runningwater, you have indoor plumbing,
you have electricity, you havepower 24-7.
And that really has hurt us asa country, because now we depend
(03:45):
on a Turkish ship that's offthe coast, that we owe $40
million that we can't pay andthey're not giving us
electricity.
So we got to figure out otherways.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Well, it's interesting to also understand
the background of energy.
There is a huge correlationbetween quality of life and
energy.
So when we talk about energy,we should be talking about
electricity and the other typesof energy that we depend on.
If you check here, for example,my average monthly bill sorry,
(04:25):
not the bill, my monthlyelectricity consumption is like
150 kilowatt hour.
I will tell you this.
According to the World Bank, inSierra Leone the average for a
typical home, the entire home,is like five kilowatts.
So you can see this hugecorrelation, because here I do
(04:49):
not have the option to probablyturn off my freezer or to have
life.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
No, you have that option.
It's not something that's inyour mind.
There's power available.
Why am I going to turn that off?
Let's keep it running.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Yeah, sure.
So there is this hugecorrelation between a very
strong one, between the amountof energy you need to survive
and the quality of your life.
So I guess, when you talk aboutinfrastructure, that the
bridges, like, gave us theleft-out.
They left out something, butthen we have not been able to
(05:23):
build up on it.
We have to take a check on that.
How much energy do you thinkthe average person in Sierra
Leone will actually need?
Why do we need to build oninfrastructure?
Why do we need to have the gridextended to every house in
Sierra Leone?
You have to think about all ofthat.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
You spoke about quality of life.
Have you ever been to a countrybesides Sierra Leone where a
hospital is not open when youneed it?
Speaker 2 (05:52):
No, actually.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
So if you have electricity in a hospital, it
goes a long way into savingpeople's lives.
You're not just a patientsitting in the dark and you're
like, oh, this is life as I knowit.
You are a person that's beingtaken care of and they could see
, and they can help, becausethere's power running 24-7, all
the necessary equipment to takecare of your life, to make sure
(06:16):
that for make sure, say you,quality of life, the way you
want to live and the things thatyou need for keeping you alive
they keep you alive and thenthey work properly.
So electricity right now,salomon, you say now 5 kilowatts
hours, yeah, like on average.
On average, so let's say youget 24-7 electricity without
(06:40):
interruption, do you think thatconsumption will go up or go
down?
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Before I answer your question, I want to play both
sides in this conversation, likethe sides of my background in
power systems in junior high andnow I do sustainability In
power systems.
We also need to understandenergy is expensive.
Infrastructure is expensive, sowhen they build like a
(07:09):
transmission line and for makingit last for 50 years, so when
that person puts money for lastfor 50 years and so because it
is very, very expensive.
When somebody invests in energyproject if I expect, say,
people are ready for use, but ifyou go to the average home in
Salomon right now, somebody willprefer for cook with gas or
(07:30):
people will prefer for cook withcoal Most of them activities
there.
They will use something we need.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
We don't need electricity, we don't need
electricity I get what you, theysay, but make an interject.
You know what to make.
People in luck for order fromAmazon Make a lot Convenience.
Yes, you know how much theycharge for order on Amazon For
things they are taking.
(07:57):
Buy something for $2, $3.
And eventually they raise theprice them up.
We didn't increase the pricethem.
We not left them.
You know what to make.
We not left them Because of theCOVID-19.
Exactly you see, don't naios?
You see, you go to the app onAmazon.
You see, I want this.
I want that you click, click orthat puts on a e-bag and then
(08:19):
you check out, and then two dayslater, if you're an Amazon
Prime member if you're an AmazonPrime member.
Two days later, three days later, the package is at your front
door.
All you have to do is open thatfront door, open your demote,
take them and you know you getwhat you need.
So now, people and we have touse gas, the people that we
don't get on so much, then gouse coal.
(08:40):
The people that we don't get onso much, then go use wood paper
, whatever they need for do we,you know, cause these people
don't have the ways and meansthat we have here.
But if there's another way, aneasier way, which is you have
your kitchen inside your house,you have your stove, all you
gotta do is click, turn it's on.
(09:04):
You have instantaneous warmwater, instantaneous warm food.
Would you not use that?
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Of course you would, but okay.
So, as I say, I want to playboth sides.
Play both sides thesustainability part, where I
mean everybody forgets cleanenergy or so, and then the power
systems background right, whereI mean we talk about
infrastructure and everything.
So the only thing aboutsustainability you get like
three components in hand right.
(09:31):
One in our society, like peopledealing with people, to the
environment.
Right, that means theresourceful we use inside the
commode.
If we use a past mark, itaffects in generation after we,
right.
And then you get the economicsof it, right, how much it costs
to invest these resources forserve people, them right.
(09:51):
If you check Salon, we getconstraints for all of them here
.
Right, we're constraints forthe economics, we're constraints
for even the resources Peopleand they say Salon, get Baku San
, baku San.
But how much it costs you forconvert solar, like the average
cost for major install solarlike ours, how much we play both
For that upfront cost right,Right, independent side.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
That money they come off.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Yeah, and then on infrastructure wise right.
If governments today choose forsay, okay, I focus all major
sources on building, extendingthe grid, building like a power
plant and things like that.
How much of we current projectswe forgot to social issues them
could be diverted to that, andhow much complain people and go
(10:37):
get you understand.
So it's like something insustainability we call like a
wicked problem.
Right, you have to solve onething, another thing, depend on
that thing, and then you pull up.
You have to it's okay, man,solve this too, and then another
one, the pull up.
So it's a wicked problem.
That for solar it takes a lotof like a progressing place.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Well, it's the natural domino effect in life.
Every action has a consequence,good or bad.
So if you say the upfront costof solar, you say okay, for me
you put basic solar for cover,you refrigerate, you freezer.
You say okay, that's 50 millionleons or 100 million leons,
(11:24):
okay.
You say okay, I'll invest thismoney because I know in turn
what this will bring for me.
It will give me way from asmall market vendor I didn't
have a lovely, I didn't have apencelle.
I can put some drinks, then putme what I didn't do.
I know they don't turn on theblock, but they had that sun.
But they work.
I don't know, I drink them.
I go buy drinks, then gomaintain, then go maintain past
(11:46):
all man and whenever somebodycome by they don't know, then
they go, you know, say me on thecoldest and they quench the
people in thoughts.
So people will come back to me.
So are you willing to make thatinvestment up front?
Can you afford to make thatinvestment?
And if you can't, is theresomebody you can ask to help you
make that investment?
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Yeah, sure.
So when, historically, did Ithis like series of activities
you can connect, for sure, howpeople don't solve energy issues
as like access to energy oraccess to electricity, go to
Dubai?
Right, of course, that's one,but one way is to just sacrifice
(12:28):
part of what you can benefitnow.
Sacrifice part of what youcould benefit now for the long
term, right.
Salomon Sabi.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Donde, yes, no, I'll give you an example, because all
you say is what you get from menow, buddy, what do you have
from me right now?
Give me now, now.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
Like I want all of it right.
I can give you an example Onething we, anybody, would do,
like clean energy, whether ornot solar, whether or not, I
mean, are they use solar?
Because they come on a salon?
They come on for sure.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Nine weeks Sabi.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Whether or not solar, one thing we can do for
convince somebody.
If you get a business let's sayyou run generator, you're the
one five liters per day.
If you check that five litersthey'll make us say for the one
year you cost you 10 millionlions on just on fuel, this not
include the cost of yourgenerator.
Just on the fuel right, it'swhere you're born.
So once you wake, where peopleare waiting to install solar for
(13:20):
do or waiting in the practice,not that then they will take the
cost of your current energyconsumption for the one year,
like your fuel cost, and theywill say, okay, if you continue
for spend the same money, if weconvert that money, they will
put up a solar and so it willcost you three days as of today
(13:40):
following install this solar.
But then the good thing that inthe next three, four years you
the break even we are in.
After that three years as youenergy expenses, they become
almost zero, just profit.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Yeah, now I mean for say, just profit.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
So this, not just one thing.
We one way I can convincepeople when it comes to energy,
when you scale this up, let'ssay for the entire country, if
government for do down the midsale, it need for cut, cut small
, small budget them, pinch here,pinch here, and then we can
together and say, okay, make, wemake will build the next big
(14:19):
plant.
I will tell you one story whenI go home 2020, I think I had a
successful job and the one thatI was forced to them it's a and
EGTC.
Is it EGTC?
Speaker 1 (14:31):
I forget the one that we generate, the only one that
women savvy boss my answer.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Yeah, and I used to be it.
And I think EGTC also not onlygenerate or show.
Okay, yeah, when I go, I meetwith one of the technical
directors, they tell me, say,saloon, as we speak, we don't
get no generation plans, apartfrom the ideal we rely on.
Then car power ship them forsupply the city specifically.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
So essentially we want some parts of the city, not
all parts of the city.
Keep that in mind, if you getin the.
West side.
Yeah you're good to go ifyou're on the east side.
God bless you.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So it come on for make somebodygo out with Inogelite Bobby
young with a good, with a good30 days without light and we
enable get slightly behind.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
I got it for them because that if Austin, danny
don't delight and then come forlike a five, ten minutes, you
don't go back.
Yes.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
But, but then we've understand, like the overall
System winning for change.
You've got all and what's thechange?
I mean convert, like theredirection of of budget, right,
yeah, from whether it'seducation, all other pada, as I
seen, a weekend problem, rightas we pull, come on a year with
a constraint down a certain dayfor focus now, but then we very
(15:47):
fortunate salon, of course, onthe echo, as echo, as galaking,
entire plan for for theConsidering our stuff, okay, and
one of the mandate with salon,get by Um to 2030.
Now, for make sure, see thegrid at least extend to 92
percent of every single unit,not to just salon on America.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
President Barack Obama and I input stand a light
up Africa.
I shall say, as the firstAfrican president, when American
in Decide, say 2008, today inLexham, and it will visit me,
motherland.
Yeah right in go day that Kenyanothing say this place that go
well, something Kenya no darkmake a note of but, Africa that
(16:31):
go?
Where do you blame any land?
I can't see nothing.
So in decide, say in one forlight up Africa, yeah, so it
puts that implementation inplace and that money they aside
cause.
Then the key is to Africa.
Every year, every year also, wethen make them budgets down the
day, parts of the budget for g8to Africa and part of the
(16:54):
budget day die a day Now forlight up Africa.
So to that Represent, to thatbuild a, and I'm only day with
him, set aside Nine makes aloneand echo us get the opportunity
for at least 92 percent, buthopefully we down the right path
and All the new economy, allthe new Communities, everything
(17:14):
they make down it for be astaple part of the
infrastructure.
Because you know, therefore,think I'm again, you know,
therefore struggle again.
You know, say what a bill thisalso I get for preparing for
connect light.
I can't like okay.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Well, I glad you bring that me up right.
Maybe make us understand howenergy to work.
Nassalon, right, we get likethe one there with the generate
the energy and they'll get one.
We get to the transmissionsystem and and we get the
distribution system, the easyparts pattern, all not for
generate or for distribute.
The most expensive partner fortransmits the power.
(17:50):
We get one of the oldesttransmission network.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
We know If the infrastructure, when the beach
is left, we are left with us onday.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Yeah, so.
So the difference, like some ofthem, country, they like you
know, no, no, even good, countrylevel, like states level, new
York, for example, get to it andcall the New York independent
Service provider, so okay, likeNY, is something like a service
operator.
Yeah, so then, not like adesire, not like the facilitates
(18:23):
, buy and sell of electricity,mm-hmm.
What then?
The buy from people alreadygenerate electricity, like
different company, the way Some,and they use hydro, some under
use solar they don't want to useIn generator for cell to the
grid, yeah right, then theycontrol, like the grid, the
transmission line distribution.
But Salon, we just get one one,like one entity where they all
(18:46):
get some direction to thegovernment, government 19 charge
of them, right, so you see, sothere is no that, not no delay,
not no delay.
Independence, wearing one body.
Go all your post responsible,because what I generate,
essentially the same, the onlyother, the same Ministry of
Energy will, like 90, controlthem All, right, but so that
(19:08):
they mean, say, before theExpecting they will get for do
it something and before theexpect solution for the week
outside the grid, like them inthe grid, them then solar,
wouldn't it?
If you go to my checkerites nowgo to my bad junction.
You see solar.
Then it is the other part of wecentral grid, right?
So then just they'll beupgraded by small, small company
(19:30):
there.
And then company need the onlysurvive.
Based on that, more aboutjunction.
If example, how much peopleable accept see them for use
electricity now.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Manne get TV now, so you know.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Yeah, so an interesting part we go.
If you go check the entirefriend now, then try the entire
day at least two or three timesmore than waiting people in
Africa to own the pay right,because that's more company and
the government will get theextra money if I subsidize
Electricity, yeah, yeah.
So if we take all of this, comeback to To the idea of
(20:04):
sustainability means see, wefall before.
Be careful how we, the Firstpeople, and for use clean energy
.
Example, because if I believethat some village and Miss more
generator in a study, enough orit's efficient for giving me
light, make a continued that one.
If us, you understand right,because most likely because even
(20:28):
the small, small mini groupretorts.
And when they can't be, thenagain like some commitment with
government saying I can't buildthis, I don't go find investors,
them, we're investing thisproject and this project for
take 20 years for make a repeat,them back, right.
So if tomorrow, government justwake up, government, okay, the,
this president's can be seen nowat extended grid all side.
(20:48):
What's in the apple?
Govind would be for pay, in themost likely case, most of this,
most more company, and becausegovernment, the previous
government or whichever meetingchild we don't agree, see, I'll
make a contract, yeah, so yousee, I.
So sustainability and and, andand the and the availability of
resources, whether natural orfinancial, they need for go like
(21:10):
on and on and on yeah, okay,well, that's great.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
So For who now?
People that way, they usecharcoal.
If electricity come on our wayNow try for combat small, small.
You don't need for be at fullspeed, because if food tastes
better, some 10 and a whichcharcoal that's also.
You know the gas Born as theway they came by or the
electricity way, thank you.
So plunder, so that'sunderstandable.
(21:36):
But uh, wind turbines, we notget one nasalon, but we get them
beaches, them Boku.
Yes, so waiting, you think, saybecause they say one wind
turbine can power up a wholetown.
Yeah, so waiting, you think,say you know that the benefits
(21:59):
of made them wind come, thenwind turbines, then they nasalon
, either at the rural side orfree town.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Yeah, so, so, so, and I know some company right now,
even the one for is it born to.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Shabu Island.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Shabu Island yes then they consider for use wind,
right.
Of course, when you considertechnology, you have to consider
the resource available.
Yeah, that area, salon, one ofthe resource.
Students will get plenty andwater, yes, I do.
Now the anime.
If you check the 2015 energyplan, we supposed to get about
(22:35):
almost 90%, like it is 7.6%, ofthe future energy from Ido.
We got plenty water, yeah, butwind, and I'm very sure how much
wind we get, but I'm sure, likeI think it's called up to
post-energize, right, I shouldsay they don't do the efficiency
study and they understand, say,by Shabu Island wind.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Well, the facts of the matter is all, then, new
communities are waiting to make.
All the new communities thatthere are.
People are building houses.
They're closer to the beachareas.
Yeah, my father has a housearound the Tokyo area and
there's a lots of winds, lots ofhigh winds over there.
(23:17):
Yeah, you know you could put awind turbine and if you put it
there it could power up thatwhole new community that's being
built.
So there's, I feel like thepeople that are building that
are coming from overseas, you'rebuilding, which you should
consider something like that,because if you're near the beach
, you can either go wind turbineor you could go solar, solar,
(23:39):
and they say sometimes, if youuse too much solar, then the
countries that are near the sunwill turn into the Amazon's,
because now it will be well, itwill block the sun from hitting
you.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
That's a very big myth in itself right, because
when we make, a start with thesolar part, because in the last
you mentioned when Sunday forthem, for the solar technology.
If you observe solar get blue,blue coating.
The reason for that the maincomponent for any solar panel is
silicon.
Silicone in the emit lightspast mark like it is shine past
(24:22):
mark right.
So, then the quota which, likesome night, hits something
wouldn't make it blue, wouldn'tmake you know, wouldn't make it
like you know.
Send the lights back for gowhen they come inside.
Yeah, when they come inside.
And when they compare the sizeof the of the earth right and
the size of the sun right, theirsize of the earth so small that
(24:44):
even if you cover the entireearth, I don't think they affect
the solar panels.
Yeah, you know the affect, likeI don't know how that idea did
it, but you know, getting nomajor environmental effect on
the earth.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
But what's the name of the case?
If you cover the whole Saharadesert with solar panels, you
know power, the entire world.
Yes, yes, and I mean, if you dothe math, that's supposed to be
true, but then over time,because you do Dandi, because
you do Dandi the what's itcalled?
The land?
They become more fertilebecause, in cover, Cover.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
But then what about the house?
Already, like you, just put iton top of the house, right, yeah
, become a rooftop.
Yeah, yeah, and Elon Musk, yes,yes.
Well, now the one advantage andthe way solar gets over other
clean energy technologies likewind, for example, if you put a
wind turbine, I am most likelypushing a farm around it because
(25:45):
they can get noise.
Also, you need to put a near,which are people in the?
I make what you mentionedseeing at the beach when wind
turbine the tone people are notable to sleep around, like it
can be very noisy, okay, and Ihave a lot of concerns about
even then they kill both them,right, but of course, because
fly blind.
(26:05):
Yes, so that's the put back tothe whole idea of sustainability
, like the three componentsright, the people, environment
and resources.
And the basis.
With the basis we then gettingin the team up on, when I did
have a say, any resource we areavailable.
If I will use a now right andthen just say it's sufficient
(26:26):
for people in the future, justfear of wanting this, not
learning for me as well aslearning for you.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
I'm here to learn from somebody that knows more
than me and I'm here to give youthis information and give you
this opportunity to learn thisinformation, because it is
invaluable information for youto learn today, learn for
tomorrow, pass it on to somebodyand don't tell stories that
really did you heard from he say, she say, but it's directly
(26:56):
from a source that that's viableand reliable.
This is an opportunity foreverybody to learn to feed your
mind, feed your soul and, likeme, talking about wind turbines,
I don't know much about them,but I'm being corrected, I'm
being educated.
That's completely fine.
That's why we're here to learnand be educated.
(27:16):
Sure, sure.
So I do really believe ifthere's light 24, seven, sierra
Leone it will change the economytremendously.
Definitely, because If you area car mechanic at seven o'clock,
I'm done.
You don't have light in yourshop, so you're done.
(27:39):
But if your car mechanic andyou want to make extra money or
you want to keep your garageopen 24, seven for emergency
services, you can keep your shopopen.
Yeah, somebody could be workingin there in case somebody wakes
down.
Yeah, and you could stationyourself like a franchise have
wanted every Tolstop.
Yeah, and you know, once peopleget there to get the car stowed
(28:02):
to you, to your shop.
Yeah you can take your things.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Yeah, I think I can add to that we're.
One of the first communitiesthat we connected was around the
local massama community.
Right, I remember we went therelike I think seven months after
, like to to connect to anothercommunity that was not very far
from local massama and and thechiefs, like the elders in the
(28:27):
communities you are telling ushow They've seen like a lot of
young people coming from thosesmall villages like to live,
like to stay there because therewas like Electricity, even
though it was not for 24 hours,sometimes maybe from 15 hours or
so to 15 hours as playing ayoung people right yeah.
And they saw like a hugeincrease in the number of passes
(28:51):
.
For how do you call it?
The?
For the becky exam, like a hugeincrease because these kids
they used to study, like they goto study camps and there was
electricity, even though youcould argue that.
But it's so easy, like forcommunities to to connect, like,
like the dots, like access toelectricity and and and quality
(29:12):
of life.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
Yeah, so I mean, that's great for everybody, even
especially in the village, isalso where you're like oh, you
know, I want to study, but maybeI don't have kerosene or maybe
Whoever it was supposed to bringthe kerosene for my lamp did
not come to town today, so I gotto wait a couple, I got away a
couple of days to get my stufftogether before I can study for
(29:35):
a certain exam, and that's notfair to people.
To get the education you need,you need to get education so you
could build a properinfrastructure, and Proper
infrastructure leads to everevolving town, every evolving
country, ever evolving Society,because the people that are
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getting education are gonna comeand improve that town.
Sure, that country they're notgonna be like okay, I like to go
up there, I'm out now, like youtake yourself and you go to New
York City and that's that.
So you know, this is anopportunity for the government
of Sierra Leone, the people thatare building in the new
communities.
Take advantage of greentechnologies, renewables, to
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improve your community as far aselectricity goes and make sure
that Everybody I mean havepeople come together.
That way you could createenough energy to be able to we
sell back to the powers that be,instead of thinking about oh,
we owe the Turkish company 40million, will never be able to
pay that, so we won't pay it.
(30:43):
Either they forgive our debt orthey don't.
We don't care.
You don't want to be in thatsituation.
You want to have you, don't you?
You want to evolve to the pointwhere where they left you.
The next time they come, fiveyears, ten years from now, when
they come, it's not where theymet you and you feel very good
about you.
Feel very good about the waythings are because you've
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developed so much and compare Inpartnership with that, plumbing
as well.
We need to the country of SierraLeone needs, like with the new
communities, put rules andregulations in place to be able
to have indoor plumbing goodindoor plumbing, not just.
You know, I have a flush toilet.
(31:27):
Just because and it's a reallynasty and it's a flush toilet's
not supposed to look black atall you use of, you clean them
and if you have running water,that kind of helps with the
cleaning.
They're not supposed to be.
You know the way they are.
But People are like oh, youknow, this is my flush toilet, I
(31:48):
have indoor plumbing.
Do you really?
Because if your toilet isn'tclean, you don't have clean
water, you don't haveelectricity, you don't even know
what you're sitting on, yeah,and you're gonna get sick and
you don't know how come you'resick.
It's not the devil, it'scleanliness.
Yeah, it's not havingelectricity to be able to see,
to be able to constantly seewhere you're at and what's going
(32:10):
on with you.
But, uh, shabra Island is gonnastart booming and I'm sure
people are gonna want to movethere, because if you have a
place in Sierra Leone With 24 7electricity if they could make
that possible it's gonna be thenew booming, a booming part of
town and everybody that'sdeveloped or that wants to
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develop is gonna go over there.
Whatever, whether it'sbusinesses, hospitals,
restaurants it's gonna be thenext place to be and Idris Elba,
with the help of the government, is gonna hopefully go far.
But also, stop holding thediaspora's hand underwater.
When we come, then we want todevelop.
Don't say, well, what do youhave now for me, right now,
(32:54):
today?
Speaker 2 (32:55):
I think I was going to ask how was your experience?
I was the experience with, Imean, I mean not it's very with
with with electricity, let'sokay.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
So I had two opportunities with the electric
city.
While I was in Freetown Istayed in my aunt's house.
They have solar, they have at,they have at the cables, so
During the day, if there's light, you could have at sunlight,
and at night, if there isn'tlight, the solar panels are
charged up enough, the batteriesare charged up enough, so you
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free to be able to use solar.
But I didn't have enoughelectricity all the time at the
house, because sometimes wecould be using the solar all day
because electricity is notcoming through.
So that destroys the point ofthe solar, the solar so.
But when I went over to myfather's house, the solar panels
are new Light 24-7.
Oh so so I was just like oh,this is great, this is what it
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feels like to be able to chargeyour phone at 100%.
I was never able to reallycharge my phone at a hundred
percent all the time when I whenI'm at the other house, because
maybe you have power, maybe youdon't, maybe the solar is
working or if it's beenoverworked, so we got it has to
go off for the night.
Wow.
So that was my experience withelectricity, and I mean for me
(34:12):
coming from here, america, it'spretty annoying To know that you
can't charge your phone likeyou want to, to know that you
can't watch TV If you just don'tfeel like going out like you
want to, because you could bewatching TV and all sudden yeah,
powers out, so it's a familyhouse.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
If you have the opportunity to invest in like
that in the in the energy sector, which part of the energy
sector would?
Speaker 1 (34:37):
you invest.
I'd like to get a lot.
I'd like to get a solar farmand we sell back, so that way I
could be a supplier, so that tomake sure that people have power
.
Okay, that's what I'd like todo.
They do that in America as well.
There's people with solarpanels in their houses, or, like
Elon Musk and Tesla, they havesolar panel roof.
(34:59):
Yeah oops, and they could fillyour whole roof all filled with
solar panels.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
So so I say roll, that policy will have to play
like in that context, because Ido not think currently you can
sell to the grid For me a roofright in.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
Sierra Leone?
No, I'm sure.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
Yeah, but so there is a rule there that policy will
have to play.
But I think in the long runit's always a very small country
.
I'm sure it is if collectivelypeople are able to do that.
If I have the wheel, if I havethe wheel right now, I'll push
for this policy that every newlike building.
(35:40):
New community should have like,like they should, they should
build their roof so that it canaccommodate solar.
At least, even if you do notinstall the solar, your roof
should be fit to accommodatesolar.
Yes, yes, yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
I think that is just one very do that and make it
possible for people to be ableto resell back into the grid,
and then that way, yeah, you'renot like, oh, I'm $40 million in
debt and yeah, I can't pay itand I don't want to pay it, and
that's, that's debt you canactually Distribute it to people
, right?
Speaker 2 (36:16):
Yeah, you give people subsidy that.
If you are, if you install likea one Kilowatt system, you have
this subsidy.
Yeah, we will probably exemptyou from paying Distax, like
your income tax, like thingsthat you are not taking money
from the pocket of people, whichare just reducing how much you
take from people.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
I mean that'd be a great idea.
Moving forward, yeah, thecountry should be ever evolving.
It's not where they left youNot to aside and meet you.
Yeah, waiting and give.
When don't you say hi, don'tdon't know.
That's the way we give me, try,they don't don't know.
Yeah, but what you do for makesure, say that's he did not.
Don't.
What you do for, make sure,what did you do to make sure
(36:56):
that progress is everlasting Tothe point where you could pass
it on to somebody else andthey're like, oh, let me improve
on it, because if I don'timprove on it, the future of
whoever I am, the future ofwhoever I leave behind, they
don't have one.
So that's an opportunity.
But people, I appreciate youfor being here today.
(37:16):
Informative conversation.
I want, I want the people ofSierra Leone for Savise
Renewable energy, not the wayfor go.
Really, in my own opinion, arethe continent of west Africa,
not the continent of Africa.
Well, I will say west Africa,because west Africa nine for
some of the countries or notgets dying for structure day,
(37:38):
saying you know, be able Servepower to everybody, like how we
want, forget 24, 7 electricity.
So if you not get theopportunity there, look into
renewables, all the newcommunities that we need to be
looking to renewable energysources and go take.
We look for and go take we along way and we go build and we
(37:59):
go improve.
And it only take one thing Forsure improvement.
Because we do that one thing,they somebody else will do
something else for improve power, hopefully, and then the next
man, then the next man by thetime you know it, 2025 years
later, I come back and adifferent country.
They meet because of that oneinitiative.
They way somebody take that onethought that somebody had that.
(38:22):
Uh, I wanted to improve.
So Sierra Leone people keepthat in mind.
But this is just foreducational purposes, so that
you guys know and I get myself.
I feel like I'm a little biteducated about having had this
conversation from somebody thatknows more than me and Hopefully
you see this video, you shareit amongst your friends.
(38:46):
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Another fabulous episode of Fan Faces.
It's been a while.
It's been a while but I got aguest here, a repeat guest.
I'm at Bangorah, he's in thebuilding.
He's here to educate us,educate the Sierra Leonean
people, educate the world atlarge, educate Americans, you
know, just to give us someinsight on sustainability and
(00:21):
renewables.
And I thought I'd bring themback for part two because this
is information that we, thepeople, want to know.
Me, I want to know I'm superinterested in the renewables,
I'm super interested insustainability, and that's
because I come home from Salonand we come home from Salon and
(00:42):
you day you get for a beeffamily with 10 things and they
cause.
We get electricity, 24-7electricity.
We have electricity but it'snot like when you're in America.
Electricity breaks down inAmerica, takes an hour or so.
They fix it.
Electricity breaks down inSierra Leone.
Maybe you get it today, maybeyou don't get it today, maybe
(01:03):
you get it a month later.
It all depends on where youlive.
But today we're here to, youknow, discuss some things that
possibly, moving on in thefuture, sierra Leone is ever
growing, ever evolving.
We're here to just have youknow.
People think about certainthings and keep it in the back
of their mind and especiallywith the new communities that
(01:25):
are coming up, like you know,you have Tokyo, you have
Hastings, the newer communitiesthat are rising, we need to
start to use, we need to startdirecting our energy towards
renewable energy, wind turbinesand stuff like that to grow the
country's electricityinfrastructure, because I know,
(01:46):
with electricity being a stableconstant in our lives in Sierra
Leone, it would make for a greatchange in the country.
It would make for a greatimprovement.
And there's already somecelebrities coming in, one
celebrity, idris Elba, coming inin Sierra Leone, but we'll get
into that a little later.
But, mohamed, talk to thepeople, sure, sure.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
I'm very happy to be here again and to share my take
on clean energy in Sierra Leoneand generally on sustainability.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
So sustainability to the common person that doesn't
know what is that?
Speaker 2 (02:26):
So maybe I think, in short, when we talk about
sustainability, we areessentially just saying I mean,
usually you hear people sayingsustainability, sustainable
development.
Essentially they are saying anydevelopment where you are
catering for the currentgeneration with something in
(02:47):
mind to ensure that futuregenerations are not deprived
from resources.
So essentially, in short, thatis sustainable development.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
So ever evolving the issue we have in Sierra Leone.
We wanted our independence.
We got it in 1961.
The British left us and wenever really developed or
evolved our infrastructure wedon't have.
Some houses don't have fullplumbing, some houses don't have
full electricity.
The British left us with aninfrastructure but we never
(03:21):
added on to it, improved on it,because in most other countries
your infrastructure is improvedupon so that way when you go
build a house, you have runningwater, you have indoor plumbing,
you have electricity, you havepower 24-7.
And that really has hurt us asa country, because now we depend
(03:45):
on a Turkish ship that's offthe coast, that we owe $40
million that we can't pay andthey're not giving us
electricity.
So we got to figure out otherways.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Well, it's interesting to also understand
the background of energy.
There is a huge correlationbetween quality of life and
energy.
So when we talk about energy,we should be talking about
electricity and the other typesof energy that we depend on.
If you check here, for example,my average monthly bill sorry,
(04:25):
not the bill, my monthlyelectricity consumption is like
150 kilowatt hour.
I will tell you this.
According to the World Bank, inSierra Leone the average for a
typical home, the entire home,is like five kilowatts.
So you can see this hugecorrelation, because here I do
(04:49):
not have the option to probablyturn off my freezer or to have
life.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
No, you have that option.
It's not something that's inyour mind.
There's power available.
Why am I going to turn that off?
Let's keep it running.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Yeah, sure.
So there is this hugecorrelation between a very
strong one, between the amountof energy you need to survive
and the quality of your life.
So I guess, when you talk aboutinfrastructure, that the
bridges, like, gave us theleft-out.
They left out something, butthen we have not been able to
(05:23):
build up on it.
We have to take a check on that.
How much energy do you thinkthe average person in Sierra
Leone will actually need?
Why do we need to build oninfrastructure?
Why do we need to have the gridextended to every house in
Sierra Leone?
You have to think about all ofthat.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
You spoke about quality of life.
Have you ever been to a countrybesides Sierra Leone where a
hospital is not open when youneed it?
Speaker 2 (05:52):
No, actually.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
So if you have electricity in a hospital, it
goes a long way into savingpeople's lives.
You're not just a patientsitting in the dark and you're
like, oh, this is life as I knowit.
You are a person that's beingtaken care of and they could see
, and they can help, becausethere's power running 24-7, all
the necessary equipment to takecare of your life, to make sure
(06:16):
that for make sure, say you,quality of life, the way you
want to live and the things thatyou need for keeping you alive
they keep you alive and thenthey work properly.
So electricity right now,salomon, you say now 5 kilowatts
hours, yeah, like on average.
On average, so let's say youget 24-7 electricity without
(06:40):
interruption, do you think thatconsumption will go up or go
down?
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Before I answer your question, I want to play both
sides in this conversation, likethe sides of my background in
power systems in junior high andnow I do sustainability In
power systems.
We also need to understandenergy is expensive.
Infrastructure is expensive, sowhen they build like a
(07:09):
transmission line and for makingit last for 50 years, so when
that person puts money for lastfor 50 years and so because it
is very, very expensive.
When somebody invests in energyproject if I expect, say,
people are ready for use, but ifyou go to the average home in
Salomon right now, somebody willprefer for cook with gas or
(07:30):
people will prefer for cook withcoal Most of them activities
there.
They will use something we need.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
We don't need electricity, we don't need
electricity I get what you, theysay, but make an interject.
You know what to make.
People in luck for order fromAmazon Make a lot Convenience.
Yes, you know how much theycharge for order on Amazon For
things they are taking.
(07:57):
Buy something for $2, $3.
And eventually they raise theprice them up.
We didn't increase the pricethem.
We not left them.
You know what to make.
We not left them Because of theCOVID-19.
Exactly you see, don't naios?
You see, you go to the app onAmazon.
You see, I want this.
I want that you click, click orthat puts on a e-bag and then
(08:19):
you check out, and then two dayslater, if you're an Amazon
Prime member if you're an AmazonPrime member.
Two days later, three days later, the package is at your front
door.
All you have to do is open thatfront door, open your demote,
take them and you know you getwhat you need.
So now, people and we have touse gas, the people that we
don't get on so much, then gouse coal.
(08:40):
The people that we don't get onso much, then go use wood paper
, whatever they need for do we,you know, cause these people
don't have the ways and meansthat we have here.
But if there's another way, aneasier way, which is you have
your kitchen inside your house,you have your stove, all you
gotta do is click, turn it's on.
(09:04):
You have instantaneous warmwater, instantaneous warm food.
Would you not use that?
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Of course you would, but okay.
So, as I say, I want to playboth sides.
Play both sides thesustainability part, where I
mean everybody forgets cleanenergy or so, and then the power
systems background right, whereI mean we talk about
infrastructure and everything.
So the only thing aboutsustainability you get like
three components in hand right.
(09:31):
One in our society, like peopledealing with people, to the
environment.
Right, that means theresourceful we use inside the
commode.
If we use a past mark, itaffects in generation after we,
right.
And then you get the economicsof it, right, how much it costs
to invest these resources forserve people, them right.
(09:51):
If you check Salon, we getconstraints for all of them here
.
Right, we're constraints forthe economics, we're constraints
for even the resources Peopleand they say Salon, get Baku San
, baku San.
But how much it costs you forconvert solar, like the average
cost for major install solarlike ours, how much we play both
For that upfront cost right,Right, independent side.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
That money they come off.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Yeah, and then on infrastructure wise right.
If governments today choose forsay, okay, I focus all major
sources on building, extendingthe grid, building like a power
plant and things like that.
How much of we current projectswe forgot to social issues them
could be diverted to that, andhow much complain people and go
(10:37):
get you understand.
So it's like something insustainability we call like a
wicked problem.
Right, you have to solve onething, another thing, depend on
that thing, and then you pull up.
You have to it's okay, man,solve this too, and then another
one, the pull up.
So it's a wicked problem.
That for solar it takes a lotof like a progressing place.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Well, it's the natural domino effect in life.
Every action has a consequence,good or bad.
So if you say the upfront costof solar, you say okay, for me
you put basic solar for cover,you refrigerate, you freezer.
You say okay, that's 50 millionleons or 100 million leons,
(11:24):
okay.
You say okay, I'll invest thismoney because I know in turn
what this will bring for me.
It will give me way from asmall market vendor I didn't
have a lovely, I didn't have apencelle.
I can put some drinks, then putme what I didn't do.
I know they don't turn on theblock, but they had that sun.
But they work.
I don't know, I drink them.
I go buy drinks, then gomaintain, then go maintain past
(11:46):
all man and whenever somebodycome by they don't know, then
they go, you know, say me on thecoldest and they quench the
people in thoughts.
So people will come back to me.
So are you willing to make thatinvestment up front?
Can you afford to make thatinvestment?
And if you can't, is theresomebody you can ask to help you
make that investment?
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Yeah, sure.
So when, historically, did Ithis like series of activities
you can connect, for sure, howpeople don't solve energy issues
as like access to energy oraccess to electricity, go to
Dubai?
Right, of course, that's one,but one way is to just sacrifice
(12:28):
part of what you can benefitnow.
Sacrifice part of what youcould benefit now for the long
term, right.
Salomon Sabi.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Donde, yes, no, I'll give you an example, because all
you say is what you get from menow, buddy, what do you have
from me right now?
Give me now, now.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
Like I want all of it right.
I can give you an example Onething we, anybody, would do,
like clean energy, whether ornot solar, whether or not, I
mean, are they use solar?
Because they come on a salon?
They come on for sure.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Nine weeks Sabi.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Whether or not solar, one thing we can do for
convince somebody.
If you get a business let's sayyou run generator, you're the
one five liters per day.
If you check that five litersthey'll make us say for the one
year you cost you 10 millionlions on just on fuel, this not
include the cost of yourgenerator.
Just on the fuel right, it'swhere you're born.
So once you wake, where peopleare waiting to install solar for
(13:20):
do or waiting in the practice,not that then they will take the
cost of your current energyconsumption for the one year,
like your fuel cost, and theywill say, okay, if you continue
for spend the same money, if weconvert that money, they will
put up a solar and so it willcost you three days as of today
(13:40):
following install this solar.
But then the good thing that inthe next three, four years you
the break even we are in.
After that three years as youenergy expenses, they become
almost zero, just profit.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Yeah, now I mean for say, just profit.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
So this, not just one thing.
We one way I can convincepeople when it comes to energy,
when you scale this up, let'ssay for the entire country, if
government for do down the midsale, it need for cut, cut small
, small budget them, pinch here,pinch here, and then we can
together and say, okay, make, wemake will build the next big
(14:19):
plant.
I will tell you one story whenI go home 2020, I think I had a
successful job and the one thatI was forced to them it's a and
EGTC.
Is it EGTC?
Speaker 1 (14:31):
I forget the one that we generate, the only one that
women savvy boss my answer.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Yeah, and I used to be it.
And I think EGTC also not onlygenerate or show.
Okay, yeah, when I go, I meetwith one of the technical
directors, they tell me, say,saloon, as we speak, we don't
get no generation plans, apartfrom the ideal we rely on.
Then car power ship them forsupply the city specifically.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
So essentially we want some parts of the city, not
all parts of the city.
Keep that in mind, if you getin the.
West side.
Yeah you're good to go ifyou're on the east side.
God bless you.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So it come on for make somebodygo out with Inogelite Bobby
young with a good, with a good30 days without light and we
enable get slightly behind.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
I got it for them because that if Austin, danny
don't delight and then come forlike a five, ten minutes, you
don't go back.
Yes.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
But, but then we've understand, like the overall
System winning for change.
You've got all and what's thechange?
I mean convert, like theredirection of of budget, right,
yeah, from whether it'seducation, all other pada, as I
seen, a weekend problem, rightas we pull, come on a year with
a constraint down a certain dayfor focus now, but then we very
(15:47):
fortunate salon, of course, onthe echo, as echo, as galaking,
entire plan for for theConsidering our stuff, okay, and
one of the mandate with salon,get by Um to 2030.
Now, for make sure, see thegrid at least extend to 92
percent of every single unit,not to just salon on America.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
President Barack Obama and I input stand a light
up Africa.
I shall say, as the firstAfrican president, when American
in Decide, say 2008, today inLexham, and it will visit me,
motherland.
Yeah right in go day that Kenyanothing say this place that go
well, something Kenya no darkmake a note of but, Africa that
(16:31):
go?
Where do you blame any land?
I can't see nothing.
So in decide, say in one forlight up Africa, yeah, so it
puts that implementation inplace and that money they aside
cause.
Then the key is to Africa.
Every year, every year also, wethen make them budgets down the
day, parts of the budget for g8to Africa and part of the
(16:54):
budget day die a day Now forlight up Africa.
So to that Represent, to thatbuild a, and I'm only day with
him, set aside Nine makes aloneand echo us get the opportunity
for at least 92 percent, buthopefully we down the right path
and All the new economy, allthe new Communities, everything
(17:14):
they make down it for be astaple part of the
infrastructure.
Because you know, therefore,think I'm again, you know,
therefore struggle again.
You know, say what a bill thisalso I get for preparing for
connect light.
I can't like okay.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Well, I glad you bring that me up right.
Maybe make us understand howenergy to work.
Nassalon, right, we get likethe one there with the generate
the energy and they'll get one.
We get to the transmissionsystem and and we get the
distribution system, the easyparts pattern, all not for
generate or for distribute.
The most expensive partner fortransmits the power.
(17:50):
We get one of the oldesttransmission network.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
We know If the infrastructure, when the beach
is left, we are left with us onday.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Yeah, so.
So the difference, like some ofthem, country, they like you
know, no, no, even good, countrylevel, like states level, new
York, for example, get to it andcall the New York independent
Service provider, so okay, likeNY, is something like a service
operator.
Yeah, so then, not like adesire, not like the facilitates
(18:23):
, buy and sell of electricity,mm-hmm.
What then?
The buy from people alreadygenerate electricity, like
different company, the way Some,and they use hydro, some under
use solar they don't want to useIn generator for cell to the
grid, yeah right, then theycontrol, like the grid, the
transmission line distribution.
But Salon, we just get one one,like one entity where they all
(18:46):
get some direction to thegovernment, government 19 charge
of them, right, so you see, sothere is no that, not no delay,
not no delay.
Independence, wearing one body.
Go all your post responsible,because what I generate,
essentially the same, the onlyother, the same Ministry of
Energy will, like 90, controlthem All, right, but so that
(19:08):
they mean, say, before theExpecting they will get for do
it something and before theexpect solution for the week
outside the grid, like them inthe grid, them then solar,
wouldn't it?
If you go to my checkerites nowgo to my bad junction.
You see solar.
Then it is the other part of wecentral grid, right?
So then just they'll beupgraded by small, small company
(19:30):
there.
And then company need the onlysurvive.
Based on that, more aboutjunction.
If example, how much peopleable accept see them for use
electricity now.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Manne get TV now, so you know.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Yeah, so an interesting part we go.
If you go check the entirefriend now, then try the entire
day at least two or three timesmore than waiting people in
Africa to own the pay right,because that's more company and
the government will get theextra money if I subsidize
Electricity, yeah, yeah.
So if we take all of this, comeback to To the idea of
(20:04):
sustainability means see, wefall before.
Be careful how we, the Firstpeople, and for use clean energy
.
Example, because if I believethat some village and Miss more
generator in a study, enough orit's efficient for giving me
light, make a continued that one.
If us, you understand right,because most likely because even
(20:28):
the small, small mini groupretorts.
And when they can't be, thenagain like some commitment with
government saying I can't buildthis, I don't go find investors,
them, we're investing thisproject and this project for
take 20 years for make a repeat,them back, right.
So if tomorrow, government justwake up, government, okay, the,
this president's can be seen nowat extended grid all side.
(20:48):
What's in the apple?
Govind would be for pay, in themost likely case, most of this,
most more company, and becausegovernment, the previous
government or whichever meetingchild we don't agree, see, I'll
make a contract, yeah, so yousee, I.
So sustainability and and, andand the and the availability of
resources, whether natural orfinancial, they need for go like
(21:10):
on and on and on yeah, okay,well, that's great.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
So For who now?
People that way, they usecharcoal.
If electricity come on our wayNow try for combat small, small.
You don't need for be at fullspeed, because if food tastes
better, some 10 and a whichcharcoal that's also.
You know the gas Born as theway they came by or the
electricity way, thank you.
So plunder, so that'sunderstandable.
(21:36):
But uh, wind turbines, we notget one nasalon, but we get them
beaches, them Boku.
Yes, so waiting, you think, saybecause they say one wind
turbine can power up a wholetown.
Yeah, so waiting, you think,say you know that the benefits
(21:59):
of made them wind come, thenwind turbines, then they nasalon
, either at the rural side orfree town.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Yeah, so, so, so, and I know some company right now,
even the one for is it born to.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Shabu Island.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Shabu Island yes then they consider for use wind,
right.
Of course, when you considertechnology, you have to consider
the resource available.
Yeah, that area, salon, one ofthe resource.
Students will get plenty andwater, yes, I do.
Now the anime.
If you check the 2015 energyplan, we supposed to get about
(22:35):
almost 90%, like it is 7.6%, ofthe future energy from Ido.
We got plenty water, yeah, butwind, and I'm very sure how much
wind we get, but I'm sure, likeI think it's called up to
post-energize, right, I shouldsay they don't do the efficiency
study and they understand, say,by Shabu Island wind.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Well, the facts of the matter is all, then, new
communities are waiting to make.
All the new communities thatthere are.
People are building houses.
They're closer to the beachareas.
Yeah, my father has a housearound the Tokyo area and
there's a lots of winds, lots ofhigh winds over there.
(23:17):
Yeah, you know you could put awind turbine and if you put it
there it could power up thatwhole new community that's being
built.
So there's, I feel like thepeople that are building that
are coming from overseas, you'rebuilding, which you should
consider something like that,because if you're near the beach
, you can either go wind turbineor you could go solar, solar,
(23:39):
and they say sometimes, if youuse too much solar, then the
countries that are near the sunwill turn into the Amazon's,
because now it will be well, itwill block the sun from hitting
you.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
That's a very big myth in itself right, because
when we make, a start with thesolar part, because in the last
you mentioned when Sunday forthem, for the solar technology.
If you observe solar get blue,blue coating.
The reason for that the maincomponent for any solar panel is
silicon.
Silicone in the emit lightspast mark like it is shine past
(24:22):
mark right.
So, then the quota which, likesome night, hits something
wouldn't make it blue, wouldn'tmake you know, wouldn't make it
like you know.
Send the lights back for gowhen they come inside.
Yeah, when they come inside.
And when they compare the sizeof the of the earth right and
the size of the sun right, theirsize of the earth so small that
(24:44):
even if you cover the entireearth, I don't think they affect
the solar panels.
Yeah, you know the affect, likeI don't know how that idea did
it, but you know, getting nomajor environmental effect on
the earth.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
But what's the name of the case?
If you cover the whole Saharadesert with solar panels, you
know power, the entire world.
Yes, yes, and I mean, if you dothe math, that's supposed to be
true, but then over time,because you do Dandi, because
you do Dandi the what's itcalled?
The land?
They become more fertilebecause, in cover, Cover.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
But then what about the house?
Already, like you, just put iton top of the house, right, yeah
, become a rooftop.
Yeah, yeah, and Elon Musk, yes,yes.
Well, now the one advantage andthe way solar gets over other
clean energy technologies likewind, for example, if you put a
wind turbine, I am most likelypushing a farm around it because
(25:45):
they can get noise.
Also, you need to put a near,which are people in the?
I make what you mentionedseeing at the beach when wind
turbine the tone people are notable to sleep around, like it
can be very noisy, okay, and Ihave a lot of concerns about
even then they kill both them,right, but of course, because
fly blind.
(26:05):
Yes, so that's the put back tothe whole idea of sustainability
, like the three componentsright, the people, environment
and resources.
And the basis.
With the basis we then gettingin the team up on, when I did
have a say, any resource we areavailable.
If I will use a now right andthen just say it's sufficient
(26:26):
for people in the future, justfear of wanting this, not
learning for me as well aslearning for you.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
I'm here to learn from somebody that knows more
than me and I'm here to give youthis information and give you
this opportunity to learn thisinformation, because it is
invaluable information for youto learn today, learn for
tomorrow, pass it on to somebodyand don't tell stories that
really did you heard from he say, she say, but it's directly
(26:56):
from a source that that's viableand reliable.
This is an opportunity foreverybody to learn to feed your
mind, feed your soul and, likeme, talking about wind turbines,
I don't know much about them,but I'm being corrected, I'm
being educated.
That's completely fine.
That's why we're here to learnand be educated.
(27:16):
Sure, sure.
So I do really believe ifthere's light 24, seven, sierra
Leone it will change the economytremendously.
Definitely, because If you area car mechanic at seven o'clock,
I'm done.
You don't have light in yourshop, so you're done.
(27:39):
But if your car mechanic andyou want to make extra money or
you want to keep your garageopen 24, seven for emergency
services, you can keep your shopopen.
Yeah, somebody could be workingin there in case somebody wakes
down.
Yeah, and you could stationyourself like a franchise have
wanted every Tolstop.
Yeah, and you know, once peopleget there to get the car stowed
(28:02):
to you, to your shop.
Yeah you can take your things.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Yeah, I think I can add to that we're.
One of the first communitiesthat we connected was around the
local massama community.
Right, I remember we went therelike I think seven months after
, like to to connect to anothercommunity that was not very far
from local massama and and thechiefs, like the elders in the
(28:27):
communities you are telling ushow They've seen like a lot of
young people coming from thosesmall villages like to live,
like to stay there because therewas like Electricity, even
though it was not for 24 hours,sometimes maybe from 15 hours or
so to 15 hours as playing ayoung people right yeah.
And they saw like a hugeincrease in the number of passes
(28:51):
.
For how do you call it?
The?
For the becky exam, like a hugeincrease because these kids
they used to study, like they goto study camps and there was
electricity, even though youcould argue that.
But it's so easy, like forcommunities to to connect, like,
like the dots, like access toelectricity and and and quality
(29:12):
of life.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
Yeah, so I mean, that's great for everybody, even
especially in the village, isalso where you're like oh, you
know, I want to study, but maybeI don't have kerosene or maybe
Whoever it was supposed to bringthe kerosene for my lamp did
not come to town today, so I gotto wait a couple, I got away a
couple of days to get my stufftogether before I can study for
(29:35):
a certain exam, and that's notfair to people.
To get the education you need,you need to get education so you
could build a properinfrastructure, and Proper
infrastructure leads to everevolving town, every evolving
country, ever evolving Society,because the people that are
(29:56):
getting education are gonna comeand improve that town.
Sure, that country they're notgonna be like okay, I like to go
up there, I'm out now, like youtake yourself and you go to New
York City and that's that.
So you know, this is anopportunity for the government
of Sierra Leone, the people thatare building in the new
communities.
Take advantage of greentechnologies, renewables, to
(30:22):
improve your community as far aselectricity goes and make sure
that Everybody I mean havepeople come together.
That way you could createenough energy to be able to we
sell back to the powers that be,instead of thinking about oh,
we owe the Turkish company 40million, will never be able to
pay that, so we won't pay it.
(30:43):
Either they forgive our debt orthey don't.
We don't care.
You don't want to be in thatsituation.
You want to have you, don't you?
You want to evolve to the pointwhere where they left you.
The next time they come, fiveyears, ten years from now, when
they come, it's not where theymet you and you feel very good
about you.
Feel very good about the waythings are because you've
(31:06):
developed so much and compare Inpartnership with that, plumbing
as well.
We need to the country of SierraLeone needs, like with the new
communities, put rules andregulations in place to be able
to have indoor plumbing goodindoor plumbing, not just.
You know, I have a flush toilet.
(31:27):
Just because and it's a reallynasty and it's a flush toilet's
not supposed to look black atall you use of, you clean them
and if you have running water,that kind of helps with the
cleaning.
They're not supposed to be.
You know the way they are.
But People are like oh, youknow, this is my flush toilet, I
(31:48):
have indoor plumbing.
Do you really?
Because if your toilet isn'tclean, you don't have clean
water, you don't haveelectricity, you don't even know
what you're sitting on, yeah,and you're gonna get sick and
you don't know how come you'resick.
It's not the devil, it'scleanliness.
Yeah, it's not havingelectricity to be able to see,
to be able to constantly seewhere you're at and what's going
(32:10):
on with you.
But, uh, shabra Island is gonnastart booming and I'm sure
people are gonna want to movethere, because if you have a
place in Sierra Leone With 24 7electricity if they could make
that possible it's gonna be thenew booming, a booming part of
town and everybody that'sdeveloped or that wants to
(32:30):
develop is gonna go over there.
Whatever, whether it'sbusinesses, hospitals,
restaurants it's gonna be thenext place to be and Idris Elba,
with the help of the government, is gonna hopefully go far.
But also, stop holding thediaspora's hand underwater.
When we come, then we want todevelop.
Don't say, well, what do youhave now for me, right now,
(32:54):
today?
Speaker 2 (32:55):
I think I was going to ask how was your experience?
I was the experience with, Imean, I mean not it's very with
with with electricity, let'sokay.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
So I had two opportunities with the electric
city.
While I was in Freetown Istayed in my aunt's house.
They have solar, they have at,they have at the cables, so
During the day, if there's light, you could have at sunlight,
and at night, if there isn'tlight, the solar panels are
charged up enough, the batteriesare charged up enough, so you
(33:27):
free to be able to use solar.
But I didn't have enoughelectricity all the time at the
house, because sometimes wecould be using the solar all day
because electricity is notcoming through.
So that destroys the point ofthe solar, the solar so.
But when I went over to myfather's house, the solar panels
are new Light 24-7.
Oh so so I was just like oh,this is great, this is what it
(33:50):
feels like to be able to chargeyour phone at 100%.
I was never able to reallycharge my phone at a hundred
percent all the time when I whenI'm at the other house, because
maybe you have power, maybe youdon't, maybe the solar is
working or if it's beenoverworked, so we got it has to
go off for the night.
Wow.
So that was my experience withelectricity, and I mean for me
(34:12):
coming from here, america, it'spretty annoying To know that you
can't charge your phone likeyou want to, to know that you
can't watch TV If you just don'tfeel like going out like you
want to, because you could bewatching TV and all sudden yeah,
powers out, so it's a familyhouse.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
If you have the opportunity to invest in like
that in the in the energy sector, which part of the energy
sector would?
Speaker 1 (34:37):
you invest.
I'd like to get a lot.
I'd like to get a solar farmand we sell back, so that way I
could be a supplier, so that tomake sure that people have power
.
Okay, that's what I'd like todo.
They do that in America as well.
There's people with solarpanels in their houses, or, like
Elon Musk and Tesla, they havesolar panel roof.
(34:59):
Yeah oops, and they could fillyour whole roof all filled with
solar panels.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
So so I say roll, that policy will have to play
like in that context, because Ido not think currently you can
sell to the grid For me a roofright in.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
Sierra Leone?
No, I'm sure.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
Yeah, but so there is a rule there that policy will
have to play.
But I think in the long runit's always a very small country
.
I'm sure it is if collectivelypeople are able to do that.
If I have the wheel, if I havethe wheel right now, I'll push
for this policy that every newlike building.
(35:40):
New community should have like,like they should, they should
build their roof so that it canaccommodate solar.
At least, even if you do notinstall the solar, your roof
should be fit to accommodatesolar.
Yes, yes, yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
I think that is just one very do that and make it
possible for people to be ableto resell back into the grid,
and then that way, yeah, you'renot like, oh, I'm $40 million in
debt and yeah, I can't pay itand I don't want to pay it, and
that's, that's debt you canactually Distribute it to people
, right?
Speaker 2 (36:16):
Yeah, you give people subsidy that.
If you are, if you install likea one Kilowatt system, you have
this subsidy.
Yeah, we will probably exemptyou from paying Distax, like
your income tax, like thingsthat you are not taking money
from the pocket of people, whichare just reducing how much you
take from people.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
I mean that'd be a great idea.
Moving forward, yeah, thecountry should be ever evolving.
It's not where they left youNot to aside and meet you.
Yeah, waiting and give.
When don't you say hi, don'tdon't know.
That's the way we give me, try,they don't don't know.
Yeah, but what you do for makesure, say that's he did not.
Don't.
What you do for, make sure,what did you do to make sure
(36:56):
that progress is everlasting Tothe point where you could pass
it on to somebody else andthey're like, oh, let me improve
on it, because if I don'timprove on it, the future of
whoever I am, the future ofwhoever I leave behind, they
don't have one.
So that's an opportunity.
But people, I appreciate youfor being here today.
(37:16):
Informative conversation.
I want, I want the people ofSierra Leone for Savise
Renewable energy, not the wayfor go.
Really, in my own opinion, arethe continent of west Africa,
not the continent of Africa.
Well, I will say west Africa,because west Africa nine for
some of the countries or notgets dying for structure day,
(37:38):
saying you know, be able Servepower to everybody, like how we
want, forget 24, 7 electricity.
So if you not get theopportunity there, look into
renewables, all the newcommunities that we need to be
looking to renewable energysources and go take.
We look for and go take we along way and we go build and we
(37:59):
go improve.
And it only take one thing Forsure improvement.
Because we do that one thing,they somebody else will do
something else for improve power, hopefully, and then the next
man, then the next man by thetime you know it, 2025 years
later, I come back and adifferent country.
They meet because of that oneinitiative.
They way somebody take that onethought that somebody had that.
(38:22):
Uh, I wanted to improve.
So Sierra Leone people keepthat in mind.
But this is just foreducational purposes, so that
you guys know and I get myself.
I feel like I'm a little biteducated about having had this
conversation from somebody thatknows more than me and Hopefully
you see this video, you shareit amongst your friends.
(38:46):
Mech, when I get interestingconversation, interesting
debates there about time, not sojust interesting debates about
sports, but interesting debatesabout the country in future,
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