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Hey there, this is Emily from Phantom on the Rocks.
You are now going to be listening to Part 2 of Season 5
episode 12100 because we just kept talking while we were
recording this. We would be embarrassed by that,
but frankly this is a Glee podcast in our year 2025 and we
have nothing left to be embarrassed by.
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I hope you enjoyed Part 1 and now Part 2 of 100.
I mean, she's not beating the allegations that she writes
Warbler's fan fiction. You're listening to Glee on the
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Rocks. Well, welcome back to Glee on
the Rocks, a Phantom on the Rocks podcast.
I'm Emily. I'm Mandy.
I'm Dee. I'm Adriana.
And I'm Allison. I would love to know if there
was actually any reasoning for why Mercedes would do it or if
it was just like, no, this is the Rachel show.
I think it's the Rachel show andI think it's another, I think
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it's a bit like Quinn where we're not going to see Mercedes
again, so let's give her a scene.
And we've always used Mercedes to prop up Rachel.
So we have like, this is what weknow how what to do with her.
Like the show is never going to put Mercedes above Rachel.
It was never going to end her time on screen with her
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triumphing over Rachel. It's never going to end with
them voting for Mercedes over Rachel.
It was never going to end with Rachel running out in a huff and
Mercedes being like yeah she does suck ass like.
Sucks to suck. Sucks, which sucks.
I'm making it in LA without being a little bitch about it.
Which is. I wouldn't love to have seen
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that. There I am.
I would have. I know that watching TV is free,
but I would have paid good money.
And she's like, you know, she says whenever a producer in LA
tells her that she's not ready, which she's not.
She's 19. She's 19.
Yeah. She doesn't know how to make an
album. Like sure, some people break
into the business at 19 and thenthey get stomped on and never
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get out. Like the whole of Glee club
acting like when they don't break into stardom the day they
graduate high school is the worst day of their lives.
Like, what do you you barely theink on your degree is wet.
What are you talking about? This is not how life works.
You have to go and try a little bit before success happens, and
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that's how it works for almost everybody.
But she says that when someone tells her she's not ready, it's
like someone from the Glee club saying it, but that she uses it
as motivation, where Rachel usesit as someone tearing her down.
She doesn't use it as a way to lift her up and like keep her
going. She takes it as a personal
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attack because she doesn't know anything else.
But also, how often is she told no?
Never. She's somehow the lead in Fanny
Bryce. And I think one of the things
that kind of grinds my gears about this is I would have loved
to see this conversation betweenso many other pairs of people.
Like, I would have loved to haveseen this conversation between
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Rachel and Quinn, or between Rachel and Santana or between
Santana and Mercedes or between,you know, fuck Mercedes and
Quinn or between, you know, Puckand Mercedes or.
Literally. I just so there are so many
other combinations of you are mytormentor.
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Yours is the voice in my head that tells me I can't do
something that's such a powerfulconversation and they blew it
here because at the end of the day, Mercedes is like you're the
voice in my head and Rachel's like sucks to suck.
I'm Fanny Bryce. Like it, just it.
She says, she says, do you thinkthat Beyoncé and Barbara have
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these kinds of conversations? And I was like comparing Beyoncé
and Barbara. He's crazy.
Like the fuck are you doing? Like it's.
Fucking apples and kumquats. Well, Quinn is gonna marry the
Apple guy. At least until her baby daddy
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throws him at the dumpster. The.
Saw. The saw the.
Saw. Which apparently he's been
called this whole time. No.
Glee wiki said that that's Mark Salling's nickname.
Yeah, documentary. Not a documentary.
Well, in times, Glee is not a documentary.
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Who has an Olivier Award? Oh yes, it's true.
Not. Not Lea Michele.
That's right. That's actually bonkers that
Amber Riley has literally won the equivalent of a Tony of 1
Dancing With the Stars and 1 TheMasked Singer.
Yeah. What has Lea Michele done, I
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guess. She did a hot takeover of Fun
Girl. That was it.
Yeah, that was. It she racially abused a cast
member. Got cancelled.
Yeah, you. Still can't read?
No, she's had a baby. OK, that's the thing people do.
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But this storyline kind of concludes with the diva off
voting with the entire everybodywho's in the Glee club, or at
least in the choir room, becausesome people, you know, have
graduated. The writer turns to Jake, and
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it's like, who are you voting for?
And Jake goes, one is black and one is Jewish.
This is so hard. Classically joke.
As soon as the voting concludes,they both walk in and they're
like, we've decided that making you vote is like unproductive
and like narcissistic. And I was like, you just
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realized that. Figured that out.
You could have spared us the song.
You could have spared us half this episode, yeah.
And then shoe goes well they diddecide and you are equally
talented in their eyes and mine.But.
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No one vote for Kurt. I was.
Gonna say and fuck. You, Kurt.
I I remember. That's what I wanted to happen.
So I remember a post going around like when the episode
aired and someone saying that, like, they counted how many
people could have voted. And it was an uneven number of
people. So somebody either abstained or
voted for Kurt because there would not have been an equal
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split of the votes between Rachel and Mercedes, I mean.
Maybe Blaine was like fixing hishair in the bathroom or
something. No, Blaine voted for Kurt.
Obviously that's what I'm saying.
Like since it was like uneven maybe, Maybe Kurt got no votes
because Blaine wasn't in the room.
When they oh, there we go, of course.
So I just wanted to present thatnugget of information that is
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just truth. The part that got me was after
as cruel as Santana has been andlike, is Santana a nice person
by nature? Like, not really, no.
And she's never been nice to Rachel.
But her fucking vote is Rachel Berry, the real Fanny Price.
Like what? What in the retcon is this?
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Also, it doesn't matter who the real Fanny Bryce is, this is an
Alphaba song. This is not a Fanny Bryce song.
Excuse me? This is an Alphaba Thropp song.
I don't understand. Like I just I it was it was so
back and forth. It was just the whiplash was in
immense and I don't understand it.
I don't care for it. 'Cause you know, why put a
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coherent episode together. 'Cause it's Glee.
Yeah, but it's Glee. But it's Glee.
But it's Glee. Well, they do have a final song,
but it we're not at the end of the episode yet.
Yeah. I think, I think it's at this
point we have to kind of talk about the, about the April
Rhodes of the, of the thing. We're gonna talk about the, you
know, the. April Rhodes in the room before
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Santana and Brittany. Let's talk about Santana and
Brittany. That's like shorter.
I guess talk about Brittana because my favorite part of Glee
has come back now twice in this episode.
Brittana and I'm obsessed. Well, I mean Britannia always.
But no, we can skank Kurt and the the beloved Britney as
Pierce brings back the world's best YouTube talk show, Fondue
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for Two. Fondue for two.
Did you say? Skank, Kurt.
She did say St. Gank Kurt.
Not sorry Skank Quinn Skank Kurtlives in my heart and I did just
put a skank Kurt skank blade skank Kurt like punk plane in my
Tumblr queue so. She's.
Living in there at all times. Yes, there all the time.
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I've seen. Sorry, Nick, I've seen that
many. Yep.
Britney is still on her genius kick because we just live in
that world now and she now always does math all the time
because that's how being a genius works.
So Santa Anna catches her doing math equations on a blackboard
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in one of the rooms because she can't, I guess, turn it off.
But she seems to want her old life back as well because she
misses it. It's a bit confused, like does
she like being at MIT? No.
Doesn't seem like she, it doesn't seem like she does, but
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it seems like a compulsion or like now she feels like she has
a purpose. But the way they were talking
about math versus dance and how she was doing like the well I
was like damn girls only Sith deal in absolutes like you, you
have two hands, you are bisexual.
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Right you. Can also be like.
A math dancer. A math dancer, well, she was
even like I was like 116th of a second off in the course or
something like that. And I was like literally only
first of all, only you noticed. Secondly, 116th of a second.
What, She doesn't catch that? What are you doing and what are
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you doing? But this does lead to the least
reinvented performance. The the reunification of the
Holy Trinity. Well, no, I forgot about toxic.
I was going to talk about Valerie, but let's talk about
no. Toxic comes first.
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We let's. Talk about let's talk about
toxic. Britney, Quinn and Santana in a
a dual performance one in the choir room in their Cheerios
uniforms but also location unknown.
Probably the auditorium in like a a full set cellblock tango
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bustier. Very cellblock tango.
Situation. That was just for the audience.
That was for the audience. I think that was just for us.
That was just specially built for us.
Watching now almost like 9 yearslater.
Oh my God. I enjoyed it I I enjoyed not
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having shoe singing on Toxic. It was nice to see them together
'cause it's like they were so fun doing the original Holy
Trinity performances in the first place.
Yeah. That it's like that little spark
of old Glee and you're like, Oh yeah, I did like watching this
show sometimes. I mean, not to be like a huge
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lesbian, but that was the best performance I've seen all
season. Like.
It was incredible, choreography,outfits, vibes, singing.
It was. For it was for us.
Concept. I love that they got two whole
sets. They did.
And you know, I, I, I was just, I'm sitting and watching going
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like, yeah, OK, I'm on board. Sounds, sounds great.
I'm, I'm here. Let's go.
Let's. Yeah, I'm on board.
Thank you. Complaints.
I definitely. Thought that going vented but
like. I thought they were going a
different direction because I think like at the beginning it's
one of the two of them. It's like, let's, you know, put
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back together our favorite threesome and I'm like, are you
guys gonna like, are you fuckingon main now?
Like, is that what's going on? Not with Biff around.
Not with Biff around. Santana and Quinn hooked up
once, right? Yeah.
Which in show in Showtime would only be three to four months
ago. Yeah, it was literally
Valentine's Day. Yeah, Yep.
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So that's in the background of her getting back together with
Puck. Yeah.
And in the background of Britneyand Santana kind of sort of
getting back together, the Dannyof it all background.
Of her dating biff. Yeah.
Did she have a sexual awakening?And they go no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, I can't actually be a lesbian.
I must. Like Can you imagine?
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Compulsive heterosexuality? Yeah, can.
You. Can you imagine going from
Santana Lopez to Biff Mackintosh?
Like the swing there is intense.Like regardless of gender, like
regardless of gender, regardlessof sex, regardless of sexuality.
Like the the amount of difference in a human person
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between Santana, Lopez and Biff.Just imagining Quinn sitting
there going like, all right, do I want orgasms or money?
Like I can have one or the other.
Yes, you can have orgasms or money.
That's the kicker. Waitress who works at a singing
diner. Apple Fortune.
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I think she ends up with Puck anyway.
And she ends up with puck like oof downgrade.
Toxic was for us I she also fondue.
For 2 was also for us. Fondue for 2 was also for us.
I did also enjoy and we can cut this out so it it like Biff
spends the entire performance oftoxic like texting on his phone
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and AI remember making jokes of like Oh my God he's sounding
Gossip Girl blasts. But B, like after the
performance is over, somebody points out and asks him what he
thinks about it. That is what I'm talking about.
Kiddos, what do you think, Mr. Preppy Mcdemple Butt Oh, I
thought it was very energetic. Dude, you're texting the whole
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time. And she makes so many excuses
for him, like, you know, he's very busy.
He's president of a of a secret society.
And also captain of the water polo team.
Oh. My God, Yeah.
He's like so busy. He's like, then maybe he
shouldn't have come to Ohio withyou.
Yeah. Yeah.
That's not to not to be this girl on Maine, but it's screams
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compact. It Yeah, it does.
It's just, it's wild. Wow.
I also want to give a final shout out to the fact that Quinn
curled her hair and put it in little piggy tails for this
performance. We're just it was 1. 3 minutes
just as one. Performance.
It was like Beachy weaves almost.
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It was gorgeous, beautiful. Yeah, gorgeous.
I. Loved it.
I loved it. Diana Agron can just, like, do
no wrong. It's fine.
She could murder someone and I'dstill defend her.
Yeah, as much as I fucking hate the Quinn storyline, I love that
this episode featured Quinn because she deserves it.
Yes. In the Brentana storyline,
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though, they keep having these like, very short scenes of math
versus creativity. And then we get to the actual
least reinvented song ever, Valerie.
Which is where the best songs Glee has?
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Done it, did it, did they? Were they?
They're just like, we don't needto reinvent anything here.
Anything we do is like not goingto.
Yeah, maybe that's the problem with having people vote on what
songs they want in the episode, because I feel like they voted
for Valerie because it's perfect.
Right. So now Glee.
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Has to get. They should, that's true.
They should have had the pull with only songs that needed
reinvention like. Baby got bad.
Gold digger. Yeah, all day bad.
Any song that has Maddie fresh on lead vocals.
Yeah. Notice he was not featured in
these songs. Not at all.
Notice that. Notice that Santana called it
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out in the first fucking scene. OK, yeah, thank you.
Thank God. Thank you Santana.
You all cheer now, but wait until he starts rapping.
Exactly. I do think there's one Glee club
member who could have done Valerie justice, and that's
Blaine Anderson. I would have loved to see it.
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He like when he did. I'm not going to teach your
girlfriend how to dance with youlike he could.
He could make Valerie work, but we didn't need that and I'm glad
Santana just resang it. But yeah.
Yeah. It was like the same
choreography, same dancers. Same.
Everything, yeah. That Mike came up like, I'm not
mad about it. Yeah, Valerie is perfect.
Oh, the thing about it for me was that she like introduced
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Valerie as a dance duet with me and Britney, and then Britney
doesn't show up until half of the song and it's just the Mike
Chang dance hour, which I love. But like, it was the Mike Chang
dance hour. I know.
So I as always am salty that allthese other little couples are
dancing and just like over in the back with the chairs green
blade are like. Like just like.
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A little jive like you can't even fucking.
Like the little shoulder shimmy,just.
A little shoulder shimmy like noyou couldn't 1 little spin want
just one spin in the background for people nothing are we is it
just full no homo or were we like?
There can only there's a set amount of homo per episode and
they gave it to Brittany and Santana this episode.
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I genuinely think what happened.I will say this was the moment
where I was like, God, I love Mike Chan.
And then also, every once in a while, I think about the amount
of incredibly talented performers that were on this TV
show and how they were just like, sidelined for Rachel and
Blaine. And like as much as I love
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Blaine, like Jacob artist graduated from Juilliard.
Yeah, and like he loved as much as I love Mike Chang as much as
I love Mike Chang, because Mike Chang, Mike Chang, Mike Chang.
If I could have had, you know, it was Santana and Mike Chang, I
keep referring to him as Mike Chang.
He's never just Mike. It's always Mike Chang.
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He's better than what he calls himself in the show.
Yeah. Asian.
Other Asian. Yes.
I would have loved as Britney gets up to dance that that that
the the new puck. God, what's His?
What's his Jake, Jake, Jake. If Jake comes up and dances with
her because those that those twopairs could have matched.
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Don't don't they? He does get up at a certain
point and like they they do likepair off, but I was like he's.
Kind of off to the side, yeah, but yeah.
Like it should have been, like Ilove AI, love a Mike Chang dance
hour, but I would have loved to see a Jake Puckerman dance hour.
Actually, Kitty is a really gooddancer too.
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And then like. Kitty even there.
I don't think so. Probably she didn't have a
single line this episode or. Anything.
No. I don't think Marley had a line.
No. Sam had like one line about
being left-handed, so he's goingto write with his foot.
And then they showed that he did.
Yeah, he's. Not even left-handed is he.
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No. That's not yeah.
It doesn't matter. Yeah, true, it doesn't.
Brittany and Santana have another scene where they're
sitting and eating churros, which why Alec?
Yeah, maybe. And then Brittany's like, I'm
sure your girlfriend's fine, butyou'll never have what we had.
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And I was like, yeah, because itwas fucking toxic.
Because you're fucking 12 years old.
I honestly forgot that Santana had a girlfriend.
God. Because it's Demi Lovato, and
Demi Lovato already had her two contractually obligated like
appearances. And, and they just like
sometimes they would just be sitting there and like, oh,
right, you're supposed to be hergirlfriend and we're not No,
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they. Didn't get to like show
affection. No, because.
They kissed them one time. Yeah, it was like a we got way
out. Yeah, 1 little 1 little like
heck. Exactly.
How's that? Like a face just touched chins.
Yeah. And then never again.
Which is so annoying because both Demi and Naya are queer.
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It's fine, whatever Glee hated us the less the phobia of it
all. They still hate us.
It's fine. They still do, It's true.
But I'm pretty sure that's how the Bretana stories like left
off well. I mean, for once, Brittany says
some like really romantic shit. Right.
I like that version of Brittany.Yeah.
Yeah. I mean she says this stuff about
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like pure fanfic lines. Like I, I feel like maybe I've
read these before if like you make me feel like a girl again.
Which is interesting because there hasn't been anything in
her storyline about not feeling human, just that she feels like
she's been dedicated to math andnot dance.
So like, OK, but like, my body wakes up.
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That's more of the dance thing. I appreciated that.
I really want to be with you, Santana.
You can't recreate what you and I have.
It's your choice. Like, well, wait, you actually
haven't. You haven't said anything yet
about wanting to be with her so strongly and that it is her.
Like this line seems to come outof nowhere.
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Like where's the missing scene of another conversation of them
being like, oh, maybe we should get back together, but I can't
because I have a girlfriend or Ican't because I live in New York
or I can't because you're at school.
Where's where's like the connectfrom the weird adult chess thing
and dancing to we belong together but we can't?
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See, I would have loved more of a deep dive into Brittany
because like, as I was watching it, I was like, I feel like it
would have made a lot of sense if they made some connections.
Like Brittany is someone who allher life, no one has had any
expectations of her because she was pretty much deemed as like,
not very intelligent, not someone you want to trust with a
lot. And then suddenly she goes to
school and like people are pointing her in a different
direction and being like, do this, do this, do this.
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And she's kind of like not really sure how to make her own
decisions because she hasn't hadthat expectation placed on her
before. So she kind of wants to go back
to what's comfortable, but instead we get 0 Britney
character development and just, you know.
Yeah. I want to dance, I want to do
math. Santana date me again.
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All I want to do is scissor you and talk to my cat.
OK, that's right. I mean like, all right, I get
it. At least we're honest.
I just wanted more. Yeah, they had, you know, it's
such a long standing relationship in the show.
And then instead we spend 15 minutes with Rachel and
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Mercedes. Like, OK, but what about them
like. Especially because they set it
up that, like Brittany at this point, in a very fanfic kind of
way, puts it out on the line. It's like, I want to be with you
and Santana's. Like, I have worked so hard to
get over you and you just watch Santana just crumble.
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Because after all this time, it's still Brittany.
Of course, it's still Brittany in a very much like high school
soul mates kind of way that works in comparison to to Quinn
and Puck, like for two people who had like a very clandestine,
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weird hidden secret high school romance.
That like lasted a long time. Yeah.
And I was like, I'm so much moreready to like put my to put my
chips behind Brittany and Santana in the way that they
actually like took this and thought and have like have had
the time to think about it over the last several years as
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opposed to Quinn and Puck, who like, don't get me wrong, like
Coolio, but like downgrade. Well, but also think about the
fact that like they in the last year of their relationship
didn't have any significant issues until Santana moved away,
right? And granted, that's because the
the like the writers just didn'tpay attention to them.
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But compare that to some of the other relationships that we saw
that did get attention, that were like, the conflict didn't
usually come from outside sources, it came from them.
Like Finn and Rachel were like constantly fighting until they
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weren't. And even then stuff would always
pop up until it didn't. And then Quinn and Puck also
like we're always fighting and like we're not actually solid.
And then they weren't together. Whereas Britney and Santana, a
lot of their conflict was because of the clan destination
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of their relationship or outsidesources being I am here in Ohio
and you are in Kentucky and, like, we see each other, but you
have a college thing. Like, you have a lot of other
things to focus on. So you can't just focus on me
the way you would before. Like, I feel like those are very
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different relationships to, like, get back to.
And it makes a lot more sense for Britney and Santana because
they didn't have, like, granted,I think it's because the writers
just, like, didn't write them. Yeah, but it's still, I hate
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that I'm gonna use this word, but it still feels a little more
realistic, a little, just a justa little.
Remember how Santana went to college for a little while?
For a minute, yeah. For a semester.
It's OK guys. In the timeline.
She stopped out. She'll go back.
Maybe someday. I'll never forget Nutbush, Cindy
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laments. So yes.
I do remember that that cheerleading fit was so good.
That's one of the. Best hunters they ever did.
I'm serious. It really was.
Period, Yeah. That justifies her going to
college even if true story. Yep.
Exactly. Could have redone that.
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Yeah. You can't you.
You can't improve on perfection.They tried with Valerie.
No they didn't. They did the exact same thing.
So just have Santana come back in and.
Truly. Yeah, just wear the that uniform
again. I'm sure she has it in the
closet still. The one. 100 episode is just
Santana performances for an hour.
Sounds great, I love it. Oh, they could have gotten Grant
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back for Smooth Criminal. Was he too busy being the Flash
at this point? I think so.
Yeah, he was. Yeah, he did still come back for
something, didn't he? For love, love, love.
Yeah, yeah. He was still in the Warbler
performances this season. You're right.
Good man. OK, that's is that the Britannia
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of it all? Yep, and now I guess it's just
the Glee club getting cancelled.Just such a nothing.
It's a nothing burger. It's.
A nothing burger 100% it's. Yeah, I mean, it's shovelled in
to like have a a purpose. Like you've known the Glee club
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has been cancelled because Sue hates them, even though
sometimes she doesn't. It kind of depends on her food.
But there's this clause of like,you only have a club so long as
you have competitions to preparefor.
Which is inherently not true, but like, OK.
Well, Technic I feel like it is though, because in season 1 they
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lose regionals and then they gettold that the that the club is
cancelled and then Figgins is like, you know what?
We're going to give you another year.
And then in season 4 they get disqualified from sectionals and
the Glee club is canceled for like an episode.
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And then clandestinely they're going to come back and like
still meet and then they like find out the warblers cheat.
So they're back in the running, sure, but they like they have
lost nationals and they are liketrying to get the club back.
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They have these two meetings with Sue.
I say they it's Shoe and April. And April, yeah.
And the first one is like April basically telling Sue that like
she has money. So you have to like, look at all
of the agreements and everythingand like, basically give the
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Glee club, the auditorium back because she's paying for it.
Yeah, she's the one who funded. Yeah, she, I can't remember the
whole, Yeah, she founded the April Rhodes McKinley High
Auditorium. She like so early on or like
halfway through season 1, she like was the mistress for some
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of strip mall magnet or something.
And he sure. Yeah, of course.
That's what that's what you do in Ohio.
He dies and the wife just pays April off so that she won't say
anything. And she donates.
She like buys the auditorium anddonates a shit ton of money so
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that the Glee club won't have toworry about funding.
And then in this episode we findout that Shu spent 2 million
human American dollars. Of course he did in less than
three years in this. Economy 2 William Dollars.
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Terribly surprised. Hey, you know what?
At least they explained it. At least they explained it.
I We have been watching this show for five goddamn seasons
and we're like, huh? Why do you need those costumes?
Huh? Why do you need that set?
Huh? Where did all those things come
from? Here we go.
William Schuster spent 2,000,000American dollars on nothing.
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On nothing, on shit for himself.And Emma wants to have a baby
with this man Good God. Bad idea.
He is show choir spiders George like the average choir director
does not spend $1,000,000 per year.
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He is an anomaly. And then while Sue is like
reading through the financials to basically say not only per
the rule that I gave you, like or that was established of like
you having a room in the school and like having a club, like
you're out because you are not in competition.
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You also are fucking broke. So you do not have the
auditorium anymore. And while she's giving this
feel, she also says that April is under investigation from the
SEC. I have here a line item budget
of the jungle set you constructed on stage a few weeks
back so the Glee club could perform a Katy Perry song
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literally for just you. Whoa, hold on, let me see that.
I don't know what the problem is, but whatever money the Glee
club needs, I'm good for it. April.
Rhodes is. French No April Rhodes is under
indictment from the Security andExchange Commission and in
violation of her $3,000,000 bail.
That forbids her from. Leaving the state of New York?
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Wait. What, because all of her money
came from fucking Bernie Madoff And I do not say like, oh, it
came from him. Fucking derogate.
No, she physically fucked him, according to the show.
I'm like, I need to tell you that I, as a 17 year old
watching this show, did not knowwhat the SEC or who Bernie
Madoff was, but 28 year old me had to pause it because I was
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laughing so hard. Yeah, so many of these jokes
went over my head. Yeah, the fact that she was part
of a Ponzi scheme with Bernie Madoff is like, insane and
really just a way to extend the,like, trauma of the Glee club.
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And so they walk out of Sue's office and he's like, you gave
me the worst that you did, the worst thing you possibly could
have done. You gave me hope.
And she's like trying to apologize while holding up an
open bejeweled flask. Which she's had just on campus.
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Yeah, the whole time. Just normal, normal Glee club
behavior. Well, she also brought a friend
to class at the very end to helpbecause we also we also bring in
Holly Holiday at the end of the episode for guest star reasons.
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For she is fucking Brad Falchuk reasons.
Yes, that's it. Yes, Gwyneth Paltrow does return
as Holly Holiday at the like near the end after they do the
the diva off voting. Yes.
And this is where we find out that there's a Facebook page for
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people who have guest starred inthe Glee club.
And then she's also like, oh, I don't look in the rearview
mirror. So she sings Happy, which is
another one of those moments where a song set, like the Glee
club is set and now 2013 becausethey're behind schedule.
But Happy comes out and like October 2014, like the
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timeline's now fucked up becauseof the filming.
Outstanding. So the song does not exist in
the time frame of the episode. My God.
She wrote Pharrell's song. She's the ghost writer.
She's Pharrell. Holly Holiday is Pharrell.
Broken by fandom on the rocks. Yeah, breaking news.
I also did skip this because I lived through these years and I
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didn't need to hear this song again.
You didn't. You didn't want to hear happy
again after it had been on the radio non-stop for a year.
Happy would actually make me sad.
If it if it's any consolation, according to the to the things I
read in the funny papers, it made Pharrell sad too.
In the funny papers, you didn't want to clap along.
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No, if happiness is something. It's not for me, not.
For me. So now, now she's there and
together. OK, so at the very very end,
Shuster takes OG Glee Club into the auditorium where like back
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stage, they've put up the plaqueof Finn and Lillian from the
choir room into the back of the auditorium.
It's like almost it like the like it's my gut reaction was
like, is that the stage managersbooth, but the stage it's.
In the wings, So it would be with the ASMS, yeah.
Like that, that makes more sensethat like, they don't have a
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view of the stage. But yeah, no, it's just like
back there with their little, little, little people.
And I think it's Artie who is like, yeah, and no one's going
to know who they are. Because like, you know.
Context is key. Context is key.
They weren't theater people. Yeah.
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Right. They weren't theater people,
like the auditorium is for theater, not for the Glee club
anyway. And she gives this whole speech
about thank you for going on this ride with me, which I did
not know if that was a direct call back to ride with me.
It was for us. Pilot, but it was yeah, I was
like, that has to be about anyway.
But that's when we see that April and Holly are watching
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from the rigging, which not smart, but OK.
They're like up in the cats and I'm like, do you know how hard
it is to get? Do you know how hard it's going
to be to get back down after youdrank a whole Tumblr of wine?
Like they've been drunk the whole episode.
I don't know one how they safelygot up there, but they're not.
And they're also like in heels because they're women in ATV
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show. Yeah, oh, only Mercedes was
wearing pants because she weighsmore than 100 lbs, so she's not
allowed to be in a skirt. Sue's got her track pants but
she's a lesbian so. Yes, this is true.
I'm fixated on how none of the girls in the show get to wear
pants. No, not at all.
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But they're the ones who are like, we have to fix this.
Like the Glee club cannot end, we have to fix it.
Wine 1st. And that's when I remembered, oh
right, it's a two-part episode. Why?
Because the other half has the actual graduation.
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I had completely forgotten aboutthe fucked up timeline and
everything else was like now they actually have to graduate.
Shit, there's more. The only thing I'm upset about
there is that Goop shows up so close to the end because for
this particular episode at least, we, we as a society
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deserved more time with the chaos duo that would be Holly
Holiday in April Rhodes. Their chaos by itself is like so
annoying if you like actively want these people to succeed,
but like together their chaos islike so different that together
it would just be so chaotic. They're both leaning towards
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Chaotic Good, but boy oh boy is it a lot.
Of the guest stars, I actually kind of like Holly Holiday.
I'm just sad that Matt Bomer wasn't fucking bred.
I'm just saying I needed all three of those other members of
the Facebook group, Blaine's brother, Rachel's mom and that
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Mexican guy. Yeah.
Yeah, he's, he's at the school. He's just like I have class.
He's technically he's. Still there.
Technically, Ricky Martin never left the school.
He's just teaching Spanish classnow, like a, like a, like an
actual educator. And what about the dentist?
Oh my God, no, no. But he did like he was in here
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and he gave them free cleanings.He did.
Maybe. Maybe Shuster doesn't want to
invite his. Men.
His wife's ex lover. Yeah.
He doesn't want he doesn't want competition.
He. Doesn't want competition because
we all know that John Stamos's competition.
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So is Matt Bomer, but. Yes, but not for, not for Emma.
She doesn't need him well. Is straight as far as we know.
Cooper is straight as far as we know.
I mean like gay and otherwise, but.
Yeah. I was just gonna say the reason,
probably the reason Adina wasn'tthere is 'cause she was in
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rehearsals for IF then. Well, as Rachel proved, you get
to take a week off of Broadway rehearsals to.
Come to your also high school. This also brings up the first
note that I made regarding the Glee Club.
What is Quinn majoring in again?Reggie didn't go back home for a
family funeral during his freshman year of college because
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he was like, in tech for a show.But you're telling me that Yale
is fine with us with two students just taking a week off
to go to high school, Glee club,funeral, and then Yale's fine
with it? Niata's fine with it.
Whatever school Mike is at is fine with it.
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All of the producers for Mercedes's album are fine with
it. And also like the entire
production team for Fanny Bryce is fine with their lead and
their understudy. Just like not being at
rehearsals for a week. So the only part of that I will
put on my student affairs hat and B please feel free to like
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check me on this. Generally speaking, colleges
don't give a shit. You are you are paying.
You are paying for the privilegeof showing up to class.
If you don't show to class, thatis not their problem nor their
responsibility. Like professors may give a shit
and give you zeros on assignments and not like let you
make them up. And like at my school they have
actually an Fe policy for freshmen where if you don't
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attend X number of days you get you failed a class due to
excessive absences. So you would need to weigh your
consequences, but yeah. That's really smart too because
freshmen are notorious for ditching 'cause they get
overwhelmed. Peace out.
But no, colleges generally speaking don't give a shit.
They don't care. Individual people may care, and
that's probably why if you are expected to be someplace like I
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couldn't disappear for, you know, two weeks around like big
sorority events because, you know.
Or any other student involvement, anything.
And The thing is if you're trying to have a rich college
experience. Yes.
And that you're not going to just be going to class.
And that's the thing, is that these people who are able to
leave in the middle of stuff aren't really having a rich
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college experience necessarily, which is maybe why they're so
high school. I don't know.
I forget that people did stuff in college other than going to
class. Yeah, a lot of stuff actually.
I didn't. Not me.
I did so much stuff that I actively handed.
I actively like handed assignments in late.
This is the introverts versus extroverts.
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Mandy, did you know they had other stuff on campus besides?
Class I know they had a Starbucks that I went to and sat
at with headphones in. Yeah.
That was, that was it. I had and.
The gym. The food place.
I had. The food place, the coffee
place, and then. I had activities that made me do
other activities. Yes.
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How many philanthropy events that you couldn't just show up
at you? Didn't even know about.
Absolutely. Yeah, no.
It's it's very it's it Mandy, you're completely right.
It's the introverse is the extrovert like but all of.
These, but all of these people would be extroverts.
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You would think, I don't know, Idon't know how.
The one that gets me is the Fanny brace.
Like, how is your if you're in rehearsal where they've actually
cast your lead and your understudy you?
Are running top of the call sheet.
You're the top of the call sheet.
Like you're running shows every fucking day.
Like what are you doing? And both of those women have
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jobs. They're both on the roster for
the for the diner. So it's Kurt.
So it's like. What did did?
Did Isabel write OK this? That diner is missing 3
employees. Oh my God.
In the same. Apartment.
That lot, well fucking apartmentis empty.
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It's. Empty.
Do you think Elliot is is house sitting for them?
I'm cooking Curry in Rachel's house just for fun.
I can't. Well, maybe some of these
questions will get answered in the second episode.
I doubt it. But you know they won't.
Time maybe we could wrap up on this one if that's cool with you
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guys. The funny thing is that we said
that we were gonna, yeah, we said we were gonna say if like
the reimagined ones were better than the others, than the
originals. And then we only did that for
Raise your Glass. So we can do that now.
Let's do it as our exit poll. Yeah, OK, Raise your glass.
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Better or worse? Worse.
Worse. Solid toxic, better or worse?
Better. Different you like the.
Maddie Fresh. Version.
I do like the Maddie Fresh version.
Wait, so who can kick Allison off?
Allison can't come back. The host And this is how we get
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divorced. Our first and last five host
episode. That's fine, all opinions are
valid. All opinions are opinions.
Opinions are opinions. OK, well, we'll let you have it.
Thank you. Define gravity.
Thumbs up, Thumbs down better. I don't have hands.
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I I don't care. Yeah, yeah, they're, they're
different. I find them equally unpleasant.
I'm going to say. Worse than the studio recorded
version where we actually got tohear Kurt sing it well.
True story. We got.
To agree on aired versions. Yeah, I agree with that.
Spotify version is deferred. You are correct Valerie.
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Exactly the same. Same actually.
It's it's. A little different.
It's a little different because Britney does sing a little bit
in this one. Yeah, she does.
She has line like her solo lines.
Yeah. So I'm not going to call it
better, but I am going to call it positively different.
I would. I would.
I would. Click.
It's like it's improved, but notby a lot, yeah.
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I like the Britney sings. I like that for her.
Yeah, keep holding on. Worse.
Worse. Worse.
So much worse. And I guess is the addition of
happy. Worse.
Worse. Worse, worse.
It made everything worse. Because it's a bad song, Yes.
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Yeah, Holly Holiday gets a lot of shit for the song.
The Adele song she sings in her the episode that everybody
hates. Turning tables.
Turning tables. I kind of like it.
So that's my Glee. Bad opinion is I like her
version I. Like it too?
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So. So I guess the consensus is meh,
we didn't need any of these songs.
But thank you, Glee. Yes.
Except for toxic, we needed that.
Thank you. I'm addicted to you.
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Did you know that you're toxic? Except for toxic, none of us are
immune to propaganda or nostalgia.
But in this case, your nostalgiabait did not.
It didn't work. It got me to tune in, but I was
going to do that anyway. Yeah, I guess in Season 5 I was
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still like, watching, although begrudgingly.
I was clocked in doing my pre leapy.
Do you have any favorite lines? Actually, yeah, I liked the the
one thing this country needs is more teen marriage.
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That's just like so much foreshadowing for the end of the
series. You're right, that is a good
line. I put any context in 2012, in
2014, yeah, right when, like, The Secret Life of an American
teenager was still on the air. Something else I didn't watch?
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Mine is because apparently the only song we're allowed to sing
in a diva off is Defying Gravity.
Yes. Good point.
I didn't write any lines down this time so I don't.
I'm going to steal Mandy's. We can share it.
Great. Well, a marriage is between
several people, so. True.
You have to share the line. Yeah, I'm just putting into
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everybody's marriage. Technically you did win my
marriage, so yes. That's true.
We played a game. I had written down the teen
marriage line, so the only otherone I have written down is when
Santana says to the Apple guy. Word on the street is that your
old money? I'm a lesbian but totally into
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that. I.
Just thought that was very yeah,great Santana line.
That is really great, Santana. Mine is when Santana walks into
the choir room and she says I'm actually hijacking this Glee
club to hold what is basically an intervention.
Yeah, she does. I like sometimes when she
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lampshades her own character. Yeah, she does hear of like, I'm
gonna, I'm going to rant, like, all right, OK.
I'll allow it. OK.
Well, thank you Glee for 100 episodes.
Which you? Couldn't even get through the
phrase. Which does mean that more or
less, there's been 100 episodes of Glee on the rocks, more or
less. More or less.
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OK well that is the 100th episode.
Apparently it's a 2 parter so stay tuned for Part 2 where
everyone graduates I think is what happens right?
Yep, we get another rendition ofLoser Like Me that is like
significantly more depressing. And for whatever reason, I did
purchase it on iTunes. Cool, nice do.
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You like the? Acoustic version.
Acoustic graduation version. My God, it's so, it's so bad,
but it doesn't have Rachel. That's why we that's why we do
those things. Indeed.
All right, well, who knows how long this is.
It's gonna be long. Sorry about that editor on the
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line, but that's on you now. Yeah, it is.
I guess you can find us at Phantom on the rocks.
At this point, you should know how to do that.
So like, why bother? And then I guess we'll catch you
next time for 101. And that's what you missed on
Biff. That's what you missed on Gossip
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Girl. On Gossip Girl.
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