(S3E11) Pack Dynamics: A Teen Wolf Podcast - Alpha Pact

In 3×11, "Alpha Pact," our characters must make some incredibly difficult choices to secure the safety of the ones they love. Scott is working with Deucalion to find his mother who has been kidnapped by Jennifer as a Guardian sacrifice, officially siding with the villain. Chris gives himself over to the Darach as the third and final Guardian sacrifice (in front of Allison and Isaac, no less!) to attempt to save Melissa and the Sheriff.

Morrell reveals some interesting, murder-y information about Deucalion and he is not pleased, obviously. Peter politely walks Derek to the emotional edge and Derek officially sacrifices his Alpha Spark to save his sister Cora. Oh, Derek.

However, all of this pales in comparison to the ritual in which Scott, Stiles, and Allison allow themselves to become surrogate sacrifices to save their parents. Come on, there's literally no other answer? Permanent darkness around your heart? Turning Beacon Hills back into a beacon for supernatural creepy crawlies? No one thought of anything better?

Also, this is the episode with the elevator scene. So, praise be.

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Episode Transcript

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You're listening to Pack Dynamics, a Fandom on the Rocks
podcast. Hello, welcome back to Pack
Dynamics, a Teen Wolf podcast. I am Emily.
And I'm Allison and. I've got one eye on my cat who
was going after some crafting stuff.
I have a cat always. I have a cat and he now lives
with my parents because I had tomove across the world.

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But he really likes to eat like string and yarn.
His predecessor also like to eatstring and yarn and ribbons.
He's the spunky is the reason that we never put like, bows on
our Christmas presents. The amount of like yarn and
ribbon and like thread I have had to physically pull out of a
cat is like, like, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's one of those

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things it's like, Sir, that could kill you.
And also you're gonna make me dothat.
Really. This one, this one wants to go
like underneath the thing, like he wants to use it as a blanket,
but like it's not a blanket. It's it's to be sold.
Like I I get it and also. Yeah, please.

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Why must you do the second we start recording?
I don't get it. Anyway, welcome to the podcast.
We have cats. Yeah.
This is Season 3 episode 11 Alpha packed.
As I asked Emily, as I will ask you, dear listener, did you get
bitch slapped in the feelings bythis episode?
Because I sure did. I might, it might just be

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hormones, but the end of the episode I was like, OK.
Oh, the end of the episode, I was like sitting.
I I had to like, Thomas was likerunning out the door today to go
do a bunch of stuff. And I'm sitting here trying to
explain the enormity of these sacrifices of these stupid kids.
And I'm like, I, it was so hard to, like, stop the episode and
not go into 312. Yeah.

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Yeah, yeah. I am just I'm so I can't go
ahead. I'm just so overwhelmed with
these stupid kids. I love them so much like.
I didn't remember it being like this well shot.
Me neither. Oh my God.
It's so beautiful, the music, the lack of dialogue, the like
the set, all the I got really caught this time by the herbs in

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the bath. Yeah, me too.
And I was like. I don't know what I was looking
at the first time. Yeah, it's like, oh, right, this
is a ritual. Yeah, it's magic.
It's magic. It's not just like, oh, well,
maybe it'll work. It's like, it's really, this is
where magic styles really could have learned from Doctor Deaton,
because it's like, Oh yeah, Deaton's Deaton's magic.

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And Oh yeah, Morel is a little magic and Oh yeah, Jennifer's a
little magic. But like, we very rarely see
Deaton B magic. Yeah.
And this was. Like, Oh yeah, it's not just an
ice bath. No, it's not just an ice bath.
It's like, oh, we're going to kill these people.
Yeah, straight up. Can you imagine like first of
all, absolutely not. But second, this whole like

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watching it happen this time I felt, you know, just immense
feelings towards Allison and Scott and Styles.
But like, Can you imagine Isaac and Lydia?
I know I've Deaton. I was like, yeah, he's fine
doing this. The other two I was.
Like, Jesus, Deaton's like, I'vedone the best I can.
It's gonna be fine. Like, and we're gonna, we're

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gonna forecast all the way forward here.
So spoiler alert. But like, after Allison dies at
the end of 3B, Isaac is once again dealing with her death.
He has had to do that now twice.Yes, yeah, yeah, twice.
And in the movie it's shown thatLydia breaks up with Styles
because she keeps having like banshee vision dreams about like

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getting into a car with him and him dying.
And I can only imagine her goinglike not again, not again, not
again because like Lydia has killed Styles and Isaac has
killed Allison. Like I just.
And they did it. What I mean, we have to get
there in the episode, but like. Sorry guys.

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They did it with the hope that they have a strong enough
connection to bring them back. Yeah, yeah.
Can you imagine? No pressure though.
No pressure guys, It's cool. Can you imagine Isaac at the end
of 3B going like I brought her back once, I can't bring her
back again? Like, I mean, I, I say yes, but
like, no, they're just babies. Oh, babies.

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It's I hate and it's like and not to diminish like Scott also
being a sacrifice here, but like, I don't know, because
Scott has to die at least twice.Scott dies here.
He they do a thing and I think it's season 5 with him like
basically dying and then Kira bringing him back to life and

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then he gets killed by Theo and then zaps back to life.
So like Scott has to do this like a number of times and that,
you know, we know how it ends for for Allison and Styles like
poor Scott. Yeah.
But like Deaton, doesn't seem tobe affected by this at all.
No, he don't. Deaton carries no baggage.

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No there, Yes, He he carries nothing.
There is no guilt. Yeah.
Not just like he doesn't have emotional baggage, but he
carries no baggage about this. Yes, let's rewind.
Yeah, we do. We that is the.
Absolute end of the episode. It's.
True, it's the absolute end, butI just got hit by the feelings.
I'm gonna get hit by feelings worse at the beginning of the

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episode. Which is worse?
Which is worse, Emily? They're both bad.
OK the the rundown of this episode is with the great.
With the threat growing far morepersonal, which I don't know how
that's possible, and time running out on innocent lives.
Scott is forced to make a difficult choice in order to
save both friends and family while at the same time Derek and

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Peter try to figure out how to save Cora's life.
This episode aired August 12th, 2013.
OK so this episode is another episode that just picks right
back up from the end of the last.
There is no break minutes. I would like I would like to set
it up though. Yes.
So most people in the Teen Wolf fandom have like, a scene or a

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line or like a moment that they kind of go back to, that they
that often get stuck in their head.
That's kind of the, like, impetus for character
development that, you know, theyattach with.
They attach to in some really specific way.
For a lot of it, for a lot of folks, it's, you know, Allison
and Lydia, you're my new best friend.

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Or Scott and Styles. It's like, well, you have me.
Yeah, well, you had me before. Or it'll come next season.
Like, you know, we'll do something, I'll do something.
You know, there's a lot of different scenes and like lines
and stuff that people will kind of cling to and watch over and
over again that like just like lives permanently in their
hearts and this is mine. That's.

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A good one. This is mine.
This is what is affectionately known as the elevator scene.
Ow ow ow. Affectionately and violently.
Violently. Yeah, a little bit.
With violent adoration. That's that's a good phrase for
it, with a violent adoration. Because this It opens just with

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Styles yelling out Derek's name and trying to slap him awake.
Because last we saw, Derek was unconscious in the elevator in
the hospital, having been left behind by Jennifer.
Yeah. So like in the in Canon, Styles
like sees Derek in the elevator,runs away from him to go try to

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stop Scott on the roof, Scott leads with Ducalian and then
Styles runs back down to get Derek.
Yes. So pick it up.
Whatever amount of time that. Yeah, right.
Whatever amount of time that hasbeen.
We never see what Jennifer does to Derek to knock him out.
But she has blasty powers so if we can assume.

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Blasty powers or mistletoe or something?
Yeah, it's enough that it takes styles a number of slaps.
Physical violence. He is trying.
He looks scared, he sounds scared, and it's like right when
he is about, he like the camera holds.
The framing of this is so interesting because the camera

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like follows Styles's fist as hemakes a fist when he's going to
punch Derek in the face to try to wake him up because the
slapping is not working. And then the camera holds when
Derek wakes up and grabs Styles by the wrist.
And this could instead just be like a real quick we're out of
here. But instead, the camera just

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holds on Derek's hand, holding Styles's wrist.
Yeah. And then it zooms out to this.
Like, really, I'm hesitant to call it intimate.
Styles is like crouched on top of that.
Styles is like crouched over Derek.
Derek is like flat out on the ground.
And everyone has like such like beautiful lines and angles.

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They do a far away shot and it'sjust so beautiful.
And of course, the the only problem with this scene is that
it is doused in the like puce green emergency lighting of
Beacon Hills Memorial Hospital. I know like they try to light it
and you're still just like, could you do better?
It's it's still green guys. It's still green, but they do,
they really do. There's a lot of focus on their

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hands in this scene for like no reason at all.
It's just, for me, I think it was just a little secret
present, just straight from production to me in my heart.
Yeah, and and like, this scene could be so fast, right?
Styles goes to the elevator, gets there, hauls them up and
out they go. But it doesn't.
It takes a few minutes of screentime, which in ATV show is a lot

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of time. You have like 42 minutes to get
and get out. And instead, we're here.
For like a minute. In the elevator for like a full
minute and change of styles, telling Derek that Jennifer is
gone with Scott's mom and that Scott, he's like doing
exposition that could frankly happen off screen.
Like, yeah, because Derek here in a minute has to give that

(10:15):
exposition to everybody else. So he could very easily have
just received that information off screen.
He could have, yeah. And Styles is like, we got to
get you the hell out of here because the cops are.
Coming. We got to get you out of here.
We got to get you out of here right now.
And Styles is so concerned for Derek.
Like Styles comes back for Derek.

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He he's like prioritizing. Like of course Scott comes
first. We know this.
But like it is so it just it tugs my heartstrings in so many
ways. And then I honestly don't
remember who to give credit to. I think I talked about this back
in season 1. It's either B phantom on the
rocks host B or it's my Internetfriend Katie.
It's somebody. But somebody made a point about

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this scene and how it directly mirrors the scene from, what is
it, 14, where Styles has to try to cut off Derek's arm and like,
slaps him awake. And they said if one of them was
a girl, this would be end game. And it's, and I'm just looking
at this, looking at how the relationship dynamic has changed

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so much, looking at those casualtouches, looking at the like
emotional back and forth about nobody's yelling at each other.
Everyone's like, you know, I gotto get you out of here.
But no, wait, I can't. I got to go get my sister.
Like, what are we going to do? And in that moment, the two of
them come up with a plan. You got to go here.
I got to go here. We got to do this.

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Ready. Go.
And in another world, in anotheruniverse, this is where they
would have shared, I think theirfirst like kiss and in like a
kind of a hormone fueled panic. Right.
Yeah, go do your stuff. Please don't die.
Yeah, go. Don't die.
I'll see you when you get back. Yeah, go.

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Don't die. I'll see you when you get home.
Yeah. Like, this scene just messes me
up so bad. It messes me up so bad.
And we'll, we'll talk about it when we get there, but we've
talked line about how in 3B all of this goes away.
All of it, all of it disappears.Just on a dime.
There was a network note, I guarantee you.

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Yeah, and and I know there are like 100 Brazilian staircaters
out there and that's fine. Do what you do, what you want,
don't care. King, tomato, etcetera.
But it's hard to look at stuff that happens in ATV show and
you're like, oh, look at all these like casual touches.
Look at the framing of a scene, look at the framing of a shot.

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And then there's a three month break between episodes and you
come back and you're like, something's different.
Something, something's funny, something's different, something
happened. What are we doing here and why?
It's it, it's just there's such a flip.
Yeah, there's like such it, it, it's it's startling.

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It's so sharp. Even if you want to just stick
to friends and coworkers, Yeah, they've spent three seasons now,
like, learning to work together and make plans together, and now
they don't talk. And in this episode and in a few
episodes, you know, kind of in and out since Season 1, it's
been. Oh, yeah.

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Well, Derek said, you know, thisand this and this and Oh yeah,
Styles said this and this and that.
So that there's like a they callback to each other.
Styles is almost always the first one to drop Eric's name in
a conversation almost every time.
And then in season 3 B it just like A like a giant slammy wall,
just like Kathunk. Yeah, goodbye.

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And it's, it's a, it's a very like sharp twisted it just like
it just it, it's, it's startling.
Yeah. So, Jeff Davis, if you'd like to
come and explain yourself. I would love to see the the
sticky note with the network note on it.
I would love to see like the thesecret note that got passed down
the table at the at the table read to be like.

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Sorry guys. Make it less obvious.
Make it, make it less and like, again, we'll talk about it when
we get there and not and you know, again, we just did a bonus
episode that hopefully you've listened to by now about like
second chance at first impressions.
And so we'll get to 3B and we'llget to Malia.
And I'm hoping that, you know, we'll, we'll look at Malia a

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little bit differently. But like when she was first
introduced, it's like, oh, you tried to get Styles with Peter
and it didn't really work, and you tried to get him with Core
in it didn't really work. And now you're trying to get him
with Malia and that works. And they're pretty cute.
But like all you, you remove Derek and you replace him with
someone who's just like him. Except a girl.

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Right. And then you get to season 4 and
they do the same thing with Derek.
Yeah, here's here's someone who styles, but not styles like,
yeah, I can see what you're doing.
Like it's just, it's one of those things, it's like, do I
love Malia? Kinda.
Yeah. I like her a lot better once
they stop when she, like, becomes her own person.
But yeah, do I like Brayden? Yeah, I do.

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I really do. Do I like her with Derek?
I do, yeah. But like it's just, it's so
clear what they're doing and it just it like it's just, it's so
startling in a weird way. So just feels like so many shows
forget to treat their audiences like they're smart.
Right. Like you, you know I've been
imbibing content and media for forever, right?

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You also know that I've watched the last three seasons and I ate
what you served me and now you're telling me it was poison
and I don't understand. Yeah, now you're telling me to
spit that back out and forget I ate it.
Like no. No, it was good.
It was good. And you know, Allison can move
on to Isaac without forgetting about Scott.
Like yeah, you don't have to erase parts of the show just

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because you it can be together. It can be together.
It can, it can be together, 'cause like Allison's kind of
moving on and Scott will kind ofmove on and it'll be fine.
Yeah. And it's like even though Scott
moves on, he doesn't forget Allison.
Even though Allison moves on, hedoesn't forget Scott.

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Of course not. That's not the don't you don't
have to do that drives me bananas.
Bonkers or bananas? I wasn't sure which one we.
Were going for. I get so confused.
Yeah. I just, and we're only at the
first scene. I'm very sorry.
I'm having just a lot of feelings.
Trust me when I tell you that the elevator scene lives in my

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brain on repeat at all times. Yeah, it is.
For me, it is the peak of the Styles and Derrick's
relationship and the ways in which it went from like enemies
to reluctant allies to friends to like vulnerable friends to,

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to a place that's like, I don't want to lose you.
I'm going to put myself in danger to not lose you.
I don't want to do this without you kind of feelings.
And it just I, to me, it is likea it's such a core part of their
story and it just drives me crazy.
Sal. That's why there's fanfic.

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Speaking of people who drive me crazy, Isaac and Peter, we go to
next who were just in the car and Isaac spots Chris and
Allison and Isaac's like, I likethese two, it's totally fine.
And Peter just like books it outof the car.
Peter. Well, it's nothing to do with
Chris and Allison. I I like the line of like,
wasn't the last time you saw them?
Wasn't like the time you killed a Kate and they burned you

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alive. Like thank you.
He's just out here. Thanks bro.
Reminding the show of what it's done.
Yeah, they'll do that a little later when Lydia gets involved.
It's like, Oh yeah, Remember, Remember what you did.
Like I, I appreciate that because a lot of shit has gone
down in a very short amount of time.
And like, let's not forget what Peter has done.
Oh yeah, and it's always nice when the show doesn't forget

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what it's done. Like, the show retcons a lot,
but it also makes a lot of choices and has a lot of action,
and it's really, really nice when they don't forget that.
Once it decided that Peter was going to be a a main part of the
group, they have to figure out how to incorporate him.
He's got to recognize for some, for some, for some choices he

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made. He did some shit.
So this is where Derek shows up and says that Stiles has stayed
behind to hold off the cops. And then Derek is now recounting
that Jennifer has taken Melissa and it it's kind of just a scene
of catching everybody up to whatis happening.
Although the look on Chris's face when Derek says that

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Melissa is gone is pretty like, I don't know.
I thought it was interesting. Yeah, because Chris knows what's
happening. We've spent half the season
thinking that Chris was the Dirac.
That was the decision. They're that like where they're
pointing us. And so Chris has been under.
Suspicion. About like 1/2 a step behind the
Dirac the entire season, just close enough to understand the

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pattern, but not close enough tobe able to intercept it.
Can't get ahead. And so Chris, when he hears that
the sheriff or that that Jennifer has taken Melissa, it's
like, oh, it's the sheriff. Oh, it's Melissa.
Oh, OK, I know what's going on now.
Yeah, I see it. And you can see it on his face
that he knows what's happening and he knows what's about to

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happen. Couldn't couldn't be bothered to
tell anyone what's about to happen, but you know just going
to just going to hold on to thatcorrect so back inside the
hospital we've got styles I don't know hanging out to
provide an alibi he's. Something he's just there to
like, talk to. Law enforcement of some kind,

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but he knows it's not going to be his dad.
So like, what is he doing? Like I know Derek just said he's
going to stay behind to hold offthe cops, but like, by doing
what? Like confusing them?
I don't. Know I do want to go before we
start talking about Styles and just his best interactions of
the whole show I. Mean styles.
Favorite character styles? Favorite everything.

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So like Derek's reporting for duty and he's like talking about
everyone and Allison, you know, he's like going down the list
like this and this and this and this.
There's so there's Melissa and Allison's like, where's Scott?
And Derek's just like dead ass, just like does not answer her.
And she's like, excuse me, Sir, where is Scott McCall?
And he just like looks at her dead in the face.
And we're all like, Oh yeah, Scott made a choice that

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Allison's gonna disagree with that frankly, I also disagree
with. But like, I get it.
I disagree, but also Allison hasmade choices that Scott and
everyone disagree with. At least Scott apologizes.
At least Scott apologizes. At least Scott apologizes,
right? Yeah, yeah, sure does.
Sure does. But you know she still loves him

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of. Course, she still loves him, and
she's still really worried. Of course she is.
He's running off into danger zone.
He is so you know, Styles is in the hospital holding off the
cops and runs into somebody. We get a very, very tall FBI
agent and I love We don't need to recount.
A cutie, Do you say so myself? Yes, but he doesn't deserve it.

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No, he's a jerk face. He's a jerk face.
The back and forth here is just incredible because Style sees
him and he's like, oh, just perfect.
And then the FBI guy is like, oh, Stolinsky at the center of
this mess, of course. And it's it's very clear from
their line of questioning that like that the FBI guy has known
Styles for some time. Yes, it starts.

(21:52):
This is an episode full of a lotof feelings, but also a lot of
Stalinski family feelings in this episode.
Yeah, we get a lot of background, a lot of information
about the families. This guy doesn't get an intro
until the very end of the episode, which I don't know if
that's like, I really liked him.I really.

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Like the I really, really like the reveal at the end because
like it's just it's so clear that Styles and FBI guy know
each other. And so it's not like a mystery
where like somebody knows Styles, but Styles doesn't know
them. It's like it's very, very clear

(22:34):
that these two have a past and that we're going to be let it on
it at some point. Yeah.
I'm never worried that I'm not gonna know who this guy is.
And I think it really, and it the reveal adds just like a
little bit of a, of a of a lightness I guess to the final
kind of like to 5 minutes of theshow that it needed.
Just a little, yes. Just a little bit, yeah.

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Although the so the FBI guy gives Styles some shit asking if
the the sheriff is drinking again.
Ouch. Ouch.
And so as the audience, they're sitting there like, how do you
know that? Why would you know that?
Who? Exactly you.
Exactly. The look on Silas's face is just
like you can. You can tell that it's like so
personal and it's extra personalcoming from this guy.

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Yeah, it's so super personal coming from this guy.
Yeah, and it like, I don't know how he didn't punch him in the
face. Absolutely.
Cause like, it's so clear. Cause like Styles is a little
shit, right? We've discussed this.
If Styles were a real person, he'd be in my office 3 * a week.
Like, Styles is a little shit. I love him and he's a little
shit. But it's so clear that his first

(23:37):
line against this guy is to attack him, that you are an FBI
investigator and also go fuck yourself.
Yeah. Do you think you can answer
questions without the usual level of sarcasm if you can ask
them without the usual level of stupid?
Yep. You know, has your dad been
drinking again? I don't know.
Next time I see him, I'll pull him over and do a field sobriety
test. We'll do the alphabet start with

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F and end with you. Oops.
Like, yeah, he's just. He he is holding nothing back
right now. Nope, nor should he, cause fuck
this guy. But also this guy doesn't hold
back with with styles either. He doesn't.
He doesn't start with the like, hey, what are you doing?
What's going on here? I mean like he does like for a
hot 2nd, but he immediately launches in to like, yeah.

(24:20):
He, Can you imagine like you're one of the other cops kind of
like milling around trying to docrime scene whatever, and you
just overhear an FBI agent like calling a witness's dad an
alcoholic. Yeah.
Like, what is going on over here?
Yikes. Do these guys know each other?
What the shit? This is unprofessional.

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Yeah. But Styles, of course, has come
up with a rock solid alibi that he was in the elevators the
whole time and does not know what has occurred.
Except somebody has put some names on the elevator doors.
And styles goes names, what names?
And then they do, they do a verylike emotional like Dun Dun Dun
Dun Dun kind of shot through thethrough the hallways and the

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elevator doors close and the name Argent is spray painted
across the doors. Is that what Jennifer did?
She just like knocked out Derek and then just like spray painted
a name on the doors and was likehowdy.
Who showed up with a can of spray paint?
Maybe it's Derek's blood. Maybe that's what she.
Needs it supposed to be blood like look like spray paint.

(25:24):
It looks like spray paint, but it might be blood, I don't know.
So Ouch. So it also means that if the
cops were any kind of smart, they would have a big giant
clue, but they wouldn't have anything to do with it.
They're just like Arjun, OK? I know a few of those.
They saw a few guns last year. He's a well respected federal

(25:44):
arms dealer. Yeah, like they supply us with
all of our shit. What do you want us to do about
that? We can't go after him.
He has more guns than we do. He has more guns than we do.
Back at the Loft. Speaking of firepower.
Where I guess they've cleaned upafter flooding it.
Yeah, at some point, yeah. I guess his flood insurance must

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be stellar. Yeah.
Cora continues to die slowly. Bummer.
Super bummer. I I guess it just doesn't matter
what's really wrong with her other than that she is sick and
Jennifer has done something. Yeah, Jennifer has done
something. She's really sick and she's not
getting better. Derek obviously doesn't know
what to do. Derek's default though, with

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family being sick, is to like goinward and not outward.
Right. And that is pissing Isaac off
because he is laying into Derek about just sitting there in in
action and laying all this guiltand blame on Derek's shoulders
over Cora, over Jennifer at all and saying, you know, do you

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know how many people she's killed while he was rolling
around in the sheets with her while he does nothing?
Erica and Boyd are dead, Cora isdying and you are doing nothing.
And then he shifts it into why did you do this to us?
And asks if it was all about power and if he was lonely.
And Derek finally says something, and all he says is

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maybe. And like, Peter's listening in
the whole time on the staircase like a creepo.
Like, because that's all he does.
And my gut response was that Derek wanted family.
Yeah, that was necessarily power, but that he he was
lonely. And he had his entire, he had
his entire pack taken from him. And then there was like the one

(27:37):
that he still had. And then she got taken from him
too. And then Derek stumbled into
this other kid and Scott wanted nothing to do with him at 1st.
And Derek's like, I'm so scared.I'm so alone.
And then of course we learned that they basically the alpha

(27:59):
pack immediately targets Derek. And it's like, of course Derek
wanted a pack back. He wanted his family back, Of
course he did. You'd be kidding yourself if you
think you wouldn't do the same. And he had, like, no vocabulary
to be able to tell the new betasthat, yeah, and was probably too
young to say anything other thanI'm the alpha and this is what

(28:22):
we're doing. Like, if.
I mean also maybe just bad writing.
And. And a forced character
development of of trying to turnhim into like some sort of
badass instead of because, you know, in season 1, this whole
thing about is Derek the killer?Is he not?
Is he dangerous? Is he not?
But there's, I think there couldhave been an interesting way to

(28:43):
make him a lot more vulnerable from the outset and see parts of
him from the very beginning thatare like soft and scared and
doing this because he is just sovery alone.
Yeah, and I think, and I think if Derek had been the Teen Wolf
of Teen Wolf, then we would haveseen it.

(29:04):
But unfortunately for Derek's character art, he is not the
Teen Wolf of MP VS Teen Wolf. No.
So he just has to sit there and take it while his sister is
dying. And his like, only Beta, who's
still alive and talks to him is just pissed and running off.
And then Peter, Peter delight and then Isaac, like, storms

(29:25):
away. And so Peter delightfully and
very perceptively chooses this particular moment to tell Derek
that Isaac is just switching alphas.
Yeah, it's it's just his anger over his guilt for switching
allegiances. Like shut the fuck up.
Dude like I had I had one beta and now he's leaving you too
surprise. Like, do you think Derek doesn't

(29:45):
know? Yeah, you think Jerry?
You think Derek doesn't know Mr.Everybody dies.
Everybody leaves me. Nothing good happens to me,
Eddie, anymore. Everyone I love dies.
You're surprised that everyone'sleaving him?
You're surprised. The family, the family member
that's left is the one that I tried to kill because he
murdered successfully. Yeah, well, he came back.

(30:07):
Yeah, because he murdered our other family.
Like Uncle Peter who killed Sister Laura.
Yeah, Uncle Peter, who killed Sister Laura, who did this whole
thing with Paige that turned me into the sad boy that I am now.
Yeah, because that is 100% all Peter's fault.
Big Yikes. Really is like Peter, we don't
need you around like you're fun as a character.

(30:29):
Like I like you, I need you. I like you, but I don't need you
and Derek doesn't need your shitright now.
Peter's going to be pulling quite a lot of shit in this
episode. Peter pulls quite a lot of shit
in this episode, but you know what?
If he wants to team up with thisnext guy and you know, maybe
they can share some smooches from time to time.
I'll as they murder people, that's also fine because we next
go to the office of Mr. Christopher Ardrin.

(30:51):
Yes, Allison is worried about her dad being a potential
sacrifice. And Chris is like, I'm not a
good enough parent to be worth sacrificing.
And I was like, oh damn. Ouch, but fair.
Ouch. But I guess correct.
I don't know how Styles got intothe scene because he's there
too. So I guess they just picked him
up from the hospital. He's mate probably actually

(31:15):
because they because Isaac did Isaac like get into the car with
Derek after Peter? Just like did they swap cars
like? There might have been like a a
shuffle, yeah. And then?
Chris probably picked up Scott Isaac or Scott Styles.
Isaac Scott Styles from the hospital after.

(31:35):
He yelled at the FBI. Guy Styles.
He's like, I'm out of here goingon my third dad.
Yeah, this is my other father. Yeah, there's there's four
adults in Beacon Hills and they're all my parents.
Thank you. Pretty much so, you know,
they're trying to figure out what continuingly trying to
figure out what's going on. Allison thinks that maybe Morel
wrote the name on the elevator. And Chris is like, listen,

(31:56):
Jennifer is still moving all of these pieces into place, and
I've got my handy dandy map. And the parents are going to be
on one of these Tulare currents that we kind of first learned
about back in Episode 7 currents.
So we got to, we got to use our map to find them.

(32:16):
Yeah. And what I liked in this moment,
in this scene, is Chris's ability to keep Styles focused
on the task at hand and not let him spiral about his dad.
Yeah, because that's one of the things that, you know, the show
has told us over and over and over and over again is that the

(32:38):
sheriff is Styles weakness. Yes.
And this having him be kidnapped, having him be
kidnapped in front of Styles face several days ago at this
point, like Styles is just barely keeping it together and
we see him actually break this episode.
So it's just Chris is trying to be a dad.
He's really just trying to be a dad.

(32:59):
He's like, I see you. I've been through situations
kind of like this, like we're just going to keep you on track.
I need you to concentrate. I need your help, which is
actually really good Emergency Management.
Like in an emergency of any kind, if you have to, like, you
know, do medical first aid, or if you have to, you know, get
people to and from places, giving people a job, giving them

(33:20):
something to do, help stave off the panic.
Which I mean, that's half of styles characters.
Like give this man a job. Give this man a job.
He's like he's, he's like a herding dog.
He just wants a job. Like I mean it.
Works. I don't want to be just like
hanging out in the house all day.
Give me a job. It works with the mountain ash.

(33:41):
It works with, you know, initially trying to research
about Derek. I mean, he's wrong, but he.
Tries. When he's got a task at hand, he
stays a little more out of trouble.
Yeah, he does. He's very much.
He really likes having a job. He does, and so Allison here is
the one who comes up with an idea to use Lydia somehow to

(34:03):
figure out the location of the parents before they die.
She's got a sort of talent. She finds body.
She by the way, Dad, Lydia findsbodies, so we're going to use
that somehow to find people. Yeah, somehow she's something.

(34:24):
Yeah, and I did have it does it comes up in a second.
But when we when we see Lydia, but it was a moment of like they
are running around this hospital, they are fighting the
alphas in the hospital. All this is going on and Lydia's
just like at home. Yeah, she's at home recovering
from attempted murder. Yeah, but.
She has like no concept that allof this is going on half the

(34:44):
time. No, Lydia has not been present
for any of this. Yeah, it just, it took it.
It didn't Take Me Out, but I didhave a moment of like, Oh yeah,
she was gone all last episode because she was recovering and
has no idea any of this has happened.
And that's probably for the best.
Yeah, yeah. But yeah.
So we have Do we stick with them, or do we go back to Cora
and dare? Stick with them.

(35:05):
All right, so the Arjun's are going to load up with more
weapons than. Chris definitely, you know,
they're talking about like, well, she's got all this magic
and Chris is like, we are, well,she can probably, you know, heal
from like a shot to the shit to the leg or whatever.
But I'd like to see her without half her skull.
I'm like, Chris really just wants to ventilate Jennifer.

(35:26):
He. He.
Like real bad. He is looking forward to it.
He is looking forward to it, butlike the amount of weaponry that
Chris and Allison are just like so comfortable with, they're
just so. Comfortable poor styles is there
like my my dad keeps a gun in a safe box.
Like, yeah, that was you know it.

(35:47):
It's always played for laughs when the Arjuns go to town on
their weaponry. But half the sometimes like
damn, that's. Too much.
And Chris says something here that I have to that I didn't
catch the first time because I was all in my feelings.
But the older I get, the more I agree with him.
Because they're talking about they're talking about Scott and

(36:09):
Allison's pretty mad at Scott. And Styles is like, you know,
and Chris goes, both of you try and remember that he's just
doing what he thinks is right. Right.
Yeah. And Chris is right here.
Like, is Scott making the best overall decision?
Like, yeah, probably not, but I don't know.
But he is making the best decision with the information

(36:30):
that he has at the time towards the thing that he's the most
afraid of. And he is doing what he thinks
is right. And he is.
He's not doing it to like, fuck with Allison or to fuck with
Styles. He is doing what he thinks is
right and he's actually bending his own moral compass to do it,
which is very unlike Scott. Yes.

(36:51):
He's willing to work as a bad guy and Chris just like calls
them out, right? Like I know you're mad at Scott,
but remember he's trying his best just like you are.
Willing to work with a bad guy and trying I think to keep the
body count to the lowest. Like how?
How can I save the most people by doing the least amount of
damage? Yes, how can I save the most

(37:12):
amount of people exactly? Even if it makes a lot of people
really angry with me. Yeah, exactly.
Which sucks because that's a lotof burden for a 17 year old.
Oh my gosh, yeah, it's. Like a burden.
I don't want to do that now. Scott, I just want to give that
boy a hug. Poor kiddo.
Well, Speaking of a kiddo that also desperately needs a hug,

(37:34):
turns out that Team Firepower gets a new friend.
Isaac. Hi, Isaac.
I I no one has any boundaries. Isaac just shows up in the
apartment. Isaac has that key.
Yeah, at this point, like he's been almost adopted by Chris.
He's sleeping kind of sort of with Allison.
He's got a key. It's fine.
Yeah, yeah. And then so like, they're in an

(37:56):
apartment building, too. And I was wondering, like, what
are the other tenants think of all these teenagers just coming
and going? Don't forget that the the the
alphas live on the floor above them.
Yes, this apartment building is probably just like what is going
on. Well, who are all these
werewolves? Question Mark.
I think our rent's going up. Yeah, really.

(38:18):
Things keep breaking. Something, something spray
painted, something in the elevator.
They scratched it out. It was like a.
It was like a typo or something.Some weird noises at night.
I'm not. Did someone get a dog?
Maybe. So the the plan is that Chris is
trying to figure out where the next where the where, where

(38:40):
she's been, where she's failed because she has to kind of hit
all the points. And it turns out that the place
that she failed was at the bank vault.
So that's where they're heading.Yep, where Deaton was strung up
and rescued. Where it was, Deaton was strung
up and then rescued. So off team Argent goes and it's
night time again. Well.
'Cause we got to think the loft.Yes, yeah.

(39:02):
Because Isaac left the loft and went to the Argents and so now.
We have to. That's right, The Loft.
To see what happens in his in his missing.
So Derek is pulling pain from Cora, and this is where Peter
decides to unleash some more werewolf lore that he has just
been holding on to in case this ever happens.

(39:24):
Thanks, Pete. Thanks, Pete.
And it turns out that you can gotoo far in pulling pain and it
can kill you. And then he kind of waxes poetic
about normal, like real world wolves who will care for injured
members of their pack and bring them food and take care of them.

(39:44):
And that he has heard, heard tell that it's possible for an
alpha to heal a pack member using like the spark of power
that makes them the alpha. And just seems like information
that maybe he could have shared like any point over the last 20
years. If you're trying to tell me I

(40:05):
can save her, just tell me. Which I think is maybe the core
of the show. Like Deaton, Peter, anybody.
If you have information, just tell me.
Just tell me. What is it?
Just tell me. Just say it.
Say it out loud. Say it out loud.
I know what you are, say it. Werewolf.

(40:27):
So part of me watching the scenewas like, Peter's doing this on
purpose. Oh for sure, his suspicious face
is. OK.
Because. That was wild.
The the scene is kind of framed where Derek and Cora are in the
background. Peter is in the foreground but

(40:48):
he's facing camera so you see his like little little smirky
smirk. His little smirk.
Derek. Can't see.
All he hears is like concerned uncle talking about this, like
maybe thing that he could do, but but if he does, it's going
to cost him. It's going to cost him his alpha

(41:09):
powers if he saves his sister from death.
And like, Peter knows he's goingto do it.
Yeah, he knows he'll give up hisalpha powers for Cora.
Peter knows he's going to do it and like he says all of this and
it's like, you know, if it happens and then Peter gets
really like, you know, Sterns, like if, if it works.
So like Peter here is once againtrying to kill Derek.

(41:32):
And trying to. And trying to get the the hail
alpha spark back. Like excuse me Sir, but like he
will outline another specific theory that contradicts his
fucking plans. Yeah, because he's like, but
what if he starts going off like, oh, but but what if this
was Jennifer's plan all along? And you?

(41:52):
Can't fight collie as a beta. Yeah, he can't fight Collie as
an alpha, it doesn't matter. Can't fight Collie if he's dead.
And like, Jennifer is still seducing you.
She needs you on your side and she knew you would give up your
alpha like I. Don't know what the point of all
this is, Peter. I know that you want the spark
back. I know that you don't care if

(42:14):
Derek dies in the middle. Like it?
Like what? What is your?
What's your end game here, Sir? And Cora is just like a a body
in between. She's just.
Cora is just. Coughing and being sad.
Yeah, like Jesus Christ, Peter shut.
The fuck up. I would be remiss if I didn't
scream at the top of my lungs that once again, Peter uses the
word spark. And it's definitely like fluffed

(42:37):
up by, you know, fannin really like taking the word spark.
But as we record this, we're releasing episodes kind of
midway in Season 2. And so I've been listening to
those again. Listen to your own podcast,
folks. Yeah, we're talking a lot about
Styles. Is spark that spark of power, as

(43:00):
Deaton kind of outlines it for Styles.
And I'm like, oh, oh, oh, we're talking about sparks.
We're talking about sparks that Derek has.
What? I'm sorry, guys, my goggles are
out so tight. Nice.
Little Easter egg. Little Easter eggs once again,
just just given to me in a little basket.
Yep. So yeah, Peter's out there
trying to trying to kill his nephew once again, like in the
midst of a battle just to get the alpha spark back.

(43:21):
Like asshole, go kill one of theother alphas, Go.
There's other ones out there. You can't fight Collie without
Jennifer. Then you, then you go do it.
Yeah. You try, you try, You kill
Collie, you take her alpha power, let it ride go.
What a Dick ass. But we love him.
Anyway, Speaking of people who deserve to kick Peter Hale

(43:42):
squarely in the noggin, Miss Lydia Martin.
No, she's at home trying to, I guess, get ready to go to school
again, but she's got a big old bruise from getting strangled by
Jennifer around her throat. And Natalie is trying to be just
like the best and supportive Mama in the whole wide episode
and just like making it fun, making it kind of like those,

(44:04):
you know, not Oh my God, you have this horrible thing.
We need to cover it up. It was like, you know what, from
back in my day, I've got a ton of tricks if you want to use
them. It's a super, super easy, super
kind way to talk to people aboutthat.
And Lydia being, you know, on just like this, the, the, the,
the straight to the moon character development arc, Lydia

(44:24):
Martin, someone tried to strangle me and I survived.
I don't need to hide that. Yep, good for.
You getting supported by her mom?
No. No you don't.
I love mom. It's very nice, so good.
I did have a moment of like, shouldn't classes be cancelled?
You would think. There's just too much like a

(44:45):
teacher disappeared again like 2teachers are down now, 3 cause
the Jennifer's gone. Harris is gone.
Harris is gone and then that guyat the the English teacher.
Yeah, like maybe classes should be cancelled.
I also have not seen coach all season.
Coach, I think he was doing stand up.

(45:07):
Probably he was he was. Was he in like early season?
No, 'cause Motel California is the season he.
Was he was in? Motel California.
OK, OK, he was still here. It's.
Actually, maybe just a week ago in real time.
Seriously, like I haven't. I feel like I haven't seen coach
in so long. I miss him.
That that may just be a week ago.

(45:28):
In Team Wolf time. In Team Wolf time, yeah.
So, yeah. So OK, we have to go back to the
Argents who are going back to the bank vault.
So it's Allison, Isaac and Chris, the current power team.
Yes, Honorary. Argent, Isaac Hale, Isaac Hale.
Argent, Isaac. Argent.
Hale. Isaac Hale.

(45:49):
Argent, McCall. McCall Yeah, we'll figure out
where he belongs. Shockingly, Chris tases Isaac
with the cattle prod, the werewolf cattle prod, and then
handcuffs Allison to the vault wall.
Because Chris has known since Derek revealed that they took
Melissa that Chris was next. Yeah, because he too, despite

(46:10):
his issues, is a guardian. And you know, if once is an
incident, twice as a coincidenceand three times as a pattern
like. His his time is ticking.
His time is now. It's either Chris or it's
Natalie, and Chris wants it to be him rather than Natalie.

(46:31):
Yeah, I mean, he so, OK, so he says the thing about I knew she
was In Sync with the currents, blah, blah.
He, you know, knew this was going to be the place.
And he drops his gun as Jenniferenters the Bang Vault, which
does make it look like he was inleague with her.
Yeah. And they kind of set this up
because Jennifer's like, now this is a sacrifice to really
make it seem like that Chris is part of this, but but it is a

(46:55):
sacrifice on his account. He chooses to do this so that
the other parents are safe. Yeah, he chooses to do this so
that the other parents are safe because Chris believes enough in
his own abilities to to help people.
And this is sort of on Chris's character arc that he's not just

(47:15):
hunting evil werewolves and he'snot just not murdering
werewolves for sport. But now he's actively playing a
positive role in protecting his friends and community in the in
the ways that he knows how with the skills he has.
Yeah, yeah. Good job.

(47:35):
He's coming. He's coming full circle into
into the team helper. Yeah.
So it, you know, it doesn't helpAllison because she is like
heartbroken about it. Once once Chris and Jennifer are
gone, Isaac frees Allison and she is just like heartbroken
about it. Yeah, 'cause Allison.
She still doesn't understand. No, she did not.

(47:59):
And the three of them have some very lovely moments.
They do. They do.
They're very together. I think the actors dated for a
while. I feel like I remember that.
I feel like that happened but I don't know.
Yeah, but yeah, they, they, they're good together.
Isaac's also just looking for some family.
Yeah, yeah. Isaac, Derek was looking for

(48:19):
family. So were you.
Talk about what's the word when you you take your own
insecurities and fears and you put them on someone else.
Projection. Yeah, he's been projecting on
Derek this whole time. Correct.
Correct. So because Allison had told
Styles previously back at the Arjun apartment that they needed

(48:41):
Lydia, Styles has gone. Well, I guess Styles has decided
to go to school because Stiles tells Lydia that Scott has gone
with Decalion because she has missed this whole thing and
Lydia's trying to kind of process and she's talking about
how Jennifer tried to kill her and that she was surprised by
Lydia being the banshee. Yeah, and this is the first time

(49:04):
that anyone outside of Lydia is told that Lydia is a banshee.
Yes. And they they tend to agree with
it because, you know, Jennifer'san asshole, but she's magic and
not wrong. Yes.
So it it does not behoove Jennifer to have lied about
something like this. No.
And like it kind of in that scene, it kind of just comes out

(49:27):
of her like a banshee. Yeah, it's not it.
It wasn't a moment of Jennifer trying to manipulate anyone, but
now they need to find out why Jennifer was really trying to
kill Lydia because it wasn't a planned sacrifice.
It wasn't. It didn't fit the the the MO.
We've also got Aiden not textingLydia which I was like thank you

(49:51):
for the information. Yeah, he's.
That just turns out because, yeah, that turns out because
they're off doing other shit. I was like, well, of course they
are. Yeah, they know what it's just.
It's almost the end of this. It's almost the end of the
season. Of course, they're doing other
things. Yeah, yeah, they've no one.
I do like that later on the the FBI guy calls out that like,
your entire clique has not been in school.

(50:14):
Like, thank you. Someone noticed.
Someone noticed? Thanks guys.
Someone finally noticed, but Stiles does get a text from
Isaac telling them that Jenniferhas Chris Argent, which
completes the three needed for the last sacrifice and things
start to go a little fuzzy in Styles this world.

(50:35):
So again fan under cannon it is cannon cannon cannon styles gets
panic attacks. Yes, so we heard about styles as
panic attacks in season 1, but this is the first one that we
see. Yep, and something I really
appreciate about production in this, and I don't think it's
just my copy, I want to know if it's yours too.

(50:56):
The camera work in this scene even before Isaac gets the text,
like before Isaac sends the textthat Styles gets.
It's a little jittery, it's a little shaky, it's a little more
high depth. Yeah, it kind of swoops a bit.
Yeah, it's hard to follow. It's hard to follow.
Like, is that an intentional choice?
Because styles is Styles get thetext.

(51:18):
Everything goes swirly and, you know, shaky and.
Styles has been off kilter sincethe hospital.
Yeah. So it kind of it, it makes sense
that it would be. Yeah, I don't know.
So Lydia takes him out of the hallway and into the magical
boys locker room. Into the Into the room of
requirement. Into the locker room of
Requirement. And tries to get him to slow his

(51:38):
breathing to steady himself through the panic attack.
I guess she hasn't quite learnedbox breathing yet, because
instead she kisses him. And his face, his eyes are like
still open, which I think is just the, it's the best that
it's, it's the absolute best because it tells you everything.

(52:00):
Yeah. The only thing I hate about this
scene is how the music cue is sosharp because like as soon as
they start, as soon as she like lands on his face, the music
just like jarringly swaps to something else.
And it is absolutely no shade because it takes me about 1/2 a
second before I'm like, Oh my God, I love this song.

(52:21):
It's so perfect for them. This is so cute.
And like, I'm certainly not mad about this.
Absolutely not. But it's just that that again,
and maybe that's like an intentional part on production
to show kind of where Styles head is, is that he's thinking
this way and now he's thinking that way.
But it was really jarring for mein the moment.
But Styles and Lydia. Styles and Lydia.

(52:44):
I can see it being a a purposeful choice.
Yeah, I don't know that I reallyride the Styles and Lydia train.
That's fair, in part because of the beginning of him being a bit
stalkery about her. Yeah, that's super real.
Yeah. Sometimes I just, I want like
smart people, smart, smart friends like go solve cases
together in the FBI. Yeah, I absolutely.

(53:06):
I can see, I can 100% see it. I am definitely.
I want them. I want them like sitting in the
corner of a room like shit talking people at a party,
Correct? Absolutely, yeah.
But I I'm a lot more warm and fuzzy towards Styles and Lydia
at this point in my, in my Teen Wolf watching and fandom.

(53:27):
I'm not quite as angry at it as I used to be fair.
And like, it's kind of on again,off again.
It's kind of like, you know, here and there.
It's it's one of those, you know, certainly not my first
boyfriend, but there's like AI think there's a guy that I dated
that I would what's the word I'mlooking for?

(53:49):
He'll always have like a warm fuzzy place in my heart.
Sure, you know, and we're certainly not good for each
other. We would be a terrible match.
Like we're never getting back together.
Like, of course not, but like, Istill have a warm fuzzy spot in
my heart for him. Sure.
Yeah. And so like, that's kind of how
I feel about Styles and Lydia. It's like whether they're

(54:09):
lovers, whether they're not thatthey always will kind of have
that soft fuzzy spot in their heart for each other.
And whether or not that works out to anything then like OK.
Yeah. But I also love this song, it
has been featured on my like year end Spotify wrap up
playlist a number of times. So.

(54:29):
OK, yeah, that takes some, that takes some work.
It does. Yeah, it takes some.
It does, but like. Some effort.
I also really want to complimentDylan O'Brien here.
His face. Yeah, the like Lydia just kissed
me face is very cracked open. Yes, it's very weird.

(54:49):
You just kissed me. My dad might be dying.
What is Scott doing? Why now?
What is happening? Yeah, My my notes out me as a
Styles, Derek, Lydia person. Styles loves Derek, Styles loves
Lydia, Derek love Styles. Derek, Lydia will come to love
each other in a little bit like Lydia love Styles.

(55:10):
Everyone. Those those three, those three.
I can't, I, I refuse. I absolutely refuse.
I Ouch, Ouch my heart. Ouch.
My heart. I, I just, I love, I love them
in this in this scene, Lydia is so like emotionally vulnerable
with him in this moment. Lydia's a person.

(55:31):
Season 3 she is when Lydia becomes a person and we're love.
We love this for her. We do, although her next the the
poor rest of the scene, you know, she has to have a little
moment for herself because she she tells Stiles that it's time
to get a few sessions with the guidance counselor, which
reminds them of Morel. So off they go to the to Morel's

(55:54):
office where Danielle is waitingfor a session.
Danielle is Heather's best friend, Heather, who has been
missing since the beginning and was one of the first sacrifice.
And they're like Morel is 20 minutes late to the session.
I think she's not coming. Are you here for Miss Morel?
No, I thought this was gym class.

(56:14):
Yeah, it's pretty good. So Styles digs through Morrell's
desks desk and just grabs Lydia's file.
Be like here. And we see the drawing of the
tree that Lydia's been doing semester, all semester, and that
she's been drawing the same treeover and over and over and over
and over. And it's the first time that
Lydia sees that she's been drawing the same tree.

(56:38):
Over and over and over and over.And she is so shaken by it.
Yeah, Yep. And then Danielle's like, you
can have my session, You've got bigger issues, which to be fair,
she lost her best friend and no one knows why.
Like, that's a pretty big issue for her to talk through.
Yeah. So I hope you get help,
Danielle. I hope that eventually you get
read into the supernatural so that you can know the real

(57:01):
reason that Heather was taken from you.
I know, so sad. Although sometimes it's hard
not, you can't think about the other people who lose people in
Beacon Hills because like, you'll lose your mind.
Yeah, and. They'll never know.
And I will tell you, we will getthere.
Yeah. We don't get there for a while,
but we do get there. Good, good, good.

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So this styles draws or turns the drawing over and is like I
know where they are. Because Peter told Styles about
the nematon. Yep.
So Peter did one good thing. Yay.
Got Peter, and so Styles sends Lydia to talk to Derek to deal
with the root seller. Yeah, like they'll know.

(57:46):
Like, oh, won't they? They should.
They should. Because it turned out that
Styles has to deal with somebodyelse.
Yes, Detective Dickhead shows upagain.
Hello handsome. Hello handsome.
The sheriff's car has been in the school's parking lot since
last night, and now the sheriff is officially missing.
Detective Dickhead is like the whole pack didn't show up to

(58:07):
school today and what the fuck is going on?
I really appreciate that Style had his panic attack before
this. Yes.
Because the official phrase Yourfather is officially missing
would send me into a spiral A. 100% yeah, totally.
Yeah, it's I'm again. I'm glad that someone noticed
that many kids are missing from school.

(58:29):
Yes, good job. Bit of a bummer that they
haven't noticed the entire year.And yeah, Styles is just like,
get you can tell he wants to be like, get the fuck out of here.
I got things to do. Yeah.
But Detective Dickhead is like, you know, you need someone to
escort you home pretty much because it's not safe.
Which is when Deaton shows up out of nowhere to claim
guardianship. He's staying with me.

(58:50):
So nice of you to to join us Sir.
Nice of you to just show up at aout of nowhere.
Love you. Love you for this.
Thanks bud. Yeah, So I, I don't know, we got
like ways to go. We've got the nematon, we've got
the loft, we have the woods. OK, we just got it.
We just got to keep going. Everything in this episode, it

(59:12):
just all happened so much and it's all really important.
It does these scenes get real like at the end here.
It just gets so choppy. It gets very choppy and like
back and forth and it's like offto you, off to you, off to you.
So where to go first? Let's deal with Morel first.

(59:32):
OK, great 'cause this the scene,I was just like, I don't care.
Morrell is like running through the woods getting chased by
Ethan and Aidan. Rhett Row.
'Cause that's just what happens to people.
She's like, throws up a protective circle.
I think of mountain ash and it falls in just like a perfect,
beautiful circle. Wouldn't that be nice for Styles

(59:53):
to know how to do that? Would be so great.
So great. And then so the twins are like
chasing her and then they see like a flash of bright light and
then there's just like a Fireflythere.
Yeah, and Deukalian comes up andis like, that's odd.
Fireflies aren't Fireflies don'tlive here.
Yeah, and Scott's, Scott is withDeukalian and he's like, you

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know, a lot of weird animal shithas been going on in town with
the deer that we hit the fireflies.
And he's like, it's, it's all because of Jennifer, right?
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, Power draws power.
And supernatural shit, bigot, supernatural shit.
She's messing things up in town.Indeed.

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So Kali is also on scene now to cause some shit.
We find out that I guess we already knew that Braden or
Morel sent Braden to help Isaac at the bank vault.
Thank you for sending Braden. Thank you for doing that, we
will see her later but we finally, and I feel like this
took way too long for someone tosay but I guess it had to be

(01:00:59):
Morel. Morel finally tells Kali that
Deaton had saved Ennis in whichever episode that was, that
he was fine until Dekalian came and killed him to take his
power. He gets outed and Dekalian is
not pleased with this and throwshis stabby walking stick right

(01:01:19):
through her body. Yep.
Yeah, because I think Morel was trying to put some dissension in
the pack. Oh yeah, right.
To be like, hey, what you think is happening here is not what's
happening, you know? But yeah, she gets stabbed right
through the chest. Seems to be pretty OK about it
though. Generally speaking, because
Scott. Scott then because like Morel

(01:01:42):
gets hit with the scabby arrow, falls backwards, breaks the
mountain ash line and then Scottruns to her and the alpha pack
starts to walk towards Morel maybe to like kill her and Scott
says no and they listen to him. Yes, true alpha.
But done. Which is really going to be a

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problem for Decalion for sure. He really hasn't thought this
through, has he? Like hears?
No, he has not. There's a better alpha to join
that I want in my back. And so Scott again is like
protect first, save first. And so he does and removes the
the stabby walking stick and Morel tells him find the

(01:02:25):
nematon. Couldn't couldn't bother to tell
him where it is. Just no go find it.
So we go to the loft where Lydiais trying to find Eric to talk
about the nematon. But who opens the door?
It's Peter Hare and Lydia, you know, She looks at me and I look
at him and she looks at me and Ilook at him.
Which is exactly what happens because Lydia's like you.

(01:02:45):
Peter's. Like and you have the two of
them ever actually met? Because I think she just knows
him from the scary bite and thenall the hallucinations.
I don't think they've ever actually met like as people.
I don't think so. And so Peter feels a little bad
about that, but after a long conversation, Peter drops that

(01:03:07):
even though both Peter and Derekhave been to the root cellar,
Talia, Derek's mother and Peter's older sister, thought it
would be best if she just like, yoinked the like the location of
the nematon from their brains. Yep.
So how? Convenient.
Turns out, whoops, no dice. Whoops, no dice.

(01:03:29):
I my my note here was literally how convenient to the plot.
Yes, how convenient. That two of the main characters
who have intimate knowledge of the Nematon and the brute cellar
and were there and and in fact caused it to re spark and have
all this power for Jennifer. I can't tell you where it is.
I can't tell you where it is. I was like what the fuck?

(01:03:50):
How convenient. Well, Speaking of the nematon,
we then get to Beacon Hill's favorite throuple.
Yes, they're going to raise their family so good.
They're going to raise their family.
So good. Good morning, Christopher.
It's the throuple of the year. And Jennifer kind of like comes
down the stairs and she exchanges a lot of like sass
master with Chris and they're like, well, that's why they call

(01:04:10):
it a sacrifice because Jennifer is like taking all of his guns
and all of his knives and all ofhis stuff.
And so Chris is still like trying to escape and they have
my favorite conversation of the episode sheriff.
You've been tied up before Chrismany times sheriff.
Part of being a werewolf hunter Chris silence Melissa longed eye

(01:04:36):
contact and smirk. Hello.
I think Peter will be thrilled. Thanks for letting us know.
And then because, you know, so Melissa has been downloading the
sheriff on all of the werewolf buddy things that Melissa knows
to kind of catch the sheriff up to speed because he's been real

(01:04:58):
tired of like being at the dark for a while.
And Chris is like you, you should have known before this.
Like you've always kind of been present, like you've always kind
of been around and seen things. You just didn't believe it.
Which calls back to when Styles,you know, calls on.
It's like you trust me, you justdon't believe me.
And mom would have believed me. And then we get then we get the

(01:05:21):
back story of like why the sheriff believes now and a
little bit of back story on Styles and Claudia.
Yes. Is this the first time we get
Claudia's name? I think it is.
It's hard sometimes. It's hard to remember 'cause
like, we know her name is Claudia, but I believe it's the
first time the characters say her name out loud on screen.

(01:05:42):
And the sheriff is talking abouta night the night Claudia died
and he says that it was 8 years ago, which there's an editor's
note in one of the wikis about. That statement conflicts with
information given in later episodes and like the overall
canonical timeline of the show. Shocking I.
Was like shocking. So like, take eight years with a

(01:06:04):
grain of salt. It doesn't actually matter that
much in this moment. But he was responding to a call
of a teenager trapped under a car.
And this dying girl kind of likegrabs his hand super duper hard
and just tells, tells the sheriff, if you want, if you
want to be with her, go now. And the sheriff, like, knew

(01:06:27):
instinctually and intrinsically that this girl was talking about
his wife. But because he is so clinical in
his approach to truth and like. So lawful about it.
And he's so lawful and factual, he couldn't believe that.
So he stayed with this dying girl and stayed on the scene.

(01:06:48):
And by the time he got to the hospital, his wife had already
died. And Styles was there when
Claudia passed instead. And he said the sheriff says I
wasn't with her because I didn'tbelieve.
Ouch, Ouch, Ouch. Is heartbreaking.
Ouch, Ouch, Ouch. Yeah.
So we have to set up kind of thefinal the final conflicts here.

(01:07:12):
So Deaton takes Styles to track Scott.
And so Deaton in Styles have nowfound Scott because everyone is
finding out that their parents are at the Nematon, but no one
kind of knows where it is. And Styles, once again with the
information, says I just know it's where Derek took Paige to
die. Yeah.
So Deaton, showing why he was a sacrifice for the philosophers

(01:07:36):
and not for the Guardians, suggests that the kids become
surrogate sacrifices for their parents.
Yeah, he's like, I have a way, but it's dangerous.
Like, oh, is it? Is it?
Dangerous. That's the word you're going
for, and not absolutely banana nut crazy.
And then it's like, well, OK, I've got this idea.
But like, there's a lot of cons,guys.

(01:07:57):
It's gonna like, it's gonna givea ton of power back to the
Nematon and it's gonna make thisplace like a, like a magnet,
like a, like a beacon of some kind.
For Super Beacon in Beacon Hills, what?
The the kinds of things that people like the artists would
fill a beast Jerry with and styles is like, doesn't sound
like anything worse than we've seen before.
Just wait. Just wait bro, you don't even
know what you haven't seen. Just wait.

(01:08:18):
It's gonna have an effect on youevery day for the rest of your
lives, like a darkness around your hearts forever.
Permanent, like a scar. And Scott goes, yeah, like a
tattoo. Circles like Scott showed.
Up. It's not the same.
Circle. Circle it back.
Circle it back. Yeah, it's like, Jesus Deaton,
this is your idea. Like OK, but yowza.

(01:08:40):
What the fuck? And then then it's Peter who
comes in. We go back to Derek and the loft
and he's he's finally talking about like Derek and the alpha
power and saving Kora and Derek's like, I don't have a
choice. And Peter goes, you always have
a choice. It's whether or not you can live
with the consequences. Yeah.

(01:09:00):
Which should just be the call line for this whole episode.
Yes, Yep. Yeah.
It's also like you can't actually know the consequences
when you make a choice like that.
People like, well, you made yourchoice, now you have to live
with it, like it, but you made it.
You, you couldn't know. You didn't have that
information. To know.
Like you, you couldn't have taken that information in and to
make your decision. You didn't know.

(01:09:22):
You didn't know what would happen.
Yeah. So if we're staying on the loft,
Derek, you know, the full moon and the lunar eclipse are
coming. I don't know where in the Earth
cycle that could happen. Like I I haven't checked the
calendar. I don't know.
But when? When do we have a full moon and
a lunar eclipse in in 48 hours? I don't know, maybe it's maybe

(01:09:43):
it's Jennifer, maybe it's just special.
Yeah, like I'm sure it happens, like cyclically it happens.
But anyway, so Derek's like, it's the time we have to do this
now. He Cora's going to die.
We he takes her hand and just pulls everything from her until
he like partially shifts and hiseyes go from alpha red to beta

(01:10:05):
blue. Well, his beta Blue because he's
still killed somebody. Derek's sacrificing his alpha
spark to save Korra and Peter's watching on super conflicted
because like Derek seems to survive but the hail alpha spark
is officially gone. Yep, Yep.
And then you could see him like,waiting there, like like wanting

(01:10:25):
to pounce. Yeah.
Are you gonna die? Are you die?
Are you gonna die? Are you gonna die?
You die. You die.
You die. You die.
Like Jesus, man. Like he might still die, I don't
know, but like, he didn't immediately die, so I'm just
like crossing my fingers. Yeah, he's just waiting for his
nephew to die again, but yeah, asshole.
But Derek has has done this thing for his baby sister.

(01:10:46):
He has done this thing for his baby sister.
Did he ever really want to be alpha?
No. No, no, absolutely not.
So before we get to the ultimatesacrifice back at the Nematon,
Chris has managed to pull an ultrasonic emitter from
somewhere because Jennifer has already stripped him of all of
his secret hidden weapons exceptfor this one.

(01:11:09):
I don't think that she considered it to be a weapon.
It was just a button. Yeah, I I hope so, because
otherwise it came out of his ass.
And you know what? This man has been tied up.
Who knows? Who knows what he is comfortable
with? This is very true.
He is a warrior. So he is hoping that this
ultrasonic emitter will attract werewolves because they're going

(01:11:32):
to be like, what is that sound and why?
Yeah. They're going to be looking for
him. Yep.
OK, so we are at the end with the dumbest idea.
So we come in on every teenager who's still around and Doctor
Deaton in the veterinary clinic,and we see these giant, these
three giant tubs, very reminiscent of the tub that they

(01:11:52):
put Isaac in in the beginning ofthe season.
And they're full of ice and herbs and all of the three of
our three main core has changed into different clothes.
Yeah, I guess 'cause you wanna be comfy when you're freezing.
To death, I guess. And so each of the three of them
has brought like a token. Yes, connected, it'll call it a

(01:12:15):
token, but it's definitely a token.
It's definitely a token that a Talisman, yeah, that is
connected to the person that they are like stepping in for
basically. Stiles has his dad's badge that
Jennifer like crumpled so, but he pounded it back out.
Allison has her dad's ceremonialsilver bullet and Scott has his
mom's watch. Yes.

(01:12:36):
And they all have very sweet, soft stories about all three of
these things. Yep, so they are to get into
this ice water and someone will hold them under, but it has to
be someone who can also pull them back to life.
Someone who has a strong connection and emotional tether

(01:12:56):
and anchor and they don't make the choices.
Deaton is like Lydia. You go with Styles.
And so all of a sudden, this is like where Scott finds out about
Allison and Isaac, because I know because Scott and Allison
are like, well, we both have to go under.
So like Lydia has to do with oneof us and Deaton's like, no.

(01:13:18):
And so then it's very clear thatIsaac has to go with either
Scott, Scott or Allison. And frankly, Isaac could have
gone with Scott, but Deaton has to go with Scott.
So like, but this is really where Scott finds out about
Allison and Isaac. You know, right before he's
going to die. Die for his parents.
Ouch. And he's like taking it fine.

(01:13:40):
He's taking it as fine as like Iwould expect him to take it.
Yeah, he's like, he's doing OK. But still definitely not great.
Probably. Not the best circumstances for
him. No.
So Isaac goes with Allison, Lydia goes with Styles, and
Deaton goes with Scott. Yeah.
And then in order to break this tension, because like, we've
just been having like emotional music that no one's talked for

(01:14:01):
like 3 minutes, but to break this tension up just a smidgen,
we get our last reveal. Styles turns to his BFF for life
and tells him, hey Scott, your dad is in town and his dad is
the FBI detective. And we zoom in on Detective Dick
face. Like I think it's a house.

(01:14:23):
At Scott, at Scott's house, in Scott's bedroom, like with tears
in his eyes, because like, Melissa is gone, Scott is gone,
and the FBI detective is just like, sitting in Scott's room,
just like, crying. Poor dude.
So it absolutely makes sense whythis guy would know Styles.
This is Scott's dad. This is Scott's dad we haven't

(01:14:46):
seen before. Who we've never met, Yeah.
All we know is they're divorced,and it's not great.
And it's not great. Yeah.
And now these three teenagers have to die for their parents
with a lot of knowledge that they don't need to have on their
little shoulders. And Isaac and Lydia and, you

(01:15:07):
know, they all, there's all thislike really beautiful
cinematography of the three kidsgoing under.
And Isaac and Lydia and Deaton all have their hands on their
friend's shoulders. And Isaac and Lydia, like, look
over at Deaton. Like this had better work jerk.
This had. Better work.
And so then we we we finally zoom in on Scott and his Alpha

(01:15:29):
yellow. Or not his alpha yellow, but his
werewolf yellow eyes just like, crack open and we see the
darkness. Yep, Yep.
It looks very cool. Oh.
It's gorgeous. This whole scene is just
gorgeous, and it I again, if youhave access to my notes through
witchcraft of your own, you'll see how many feelings I had
about this. Just Ouch, Ouch Ouch Ouch Ouch.

(01:15:50):
To be continued. Fuck fuck fuck like.
I know I was not expecting to get a little like, but yeah, I
definitely have like a little choked up moment of like, Jesus
Christ, they're babies. They're.
Just silly little babies. They're just local eyes.
They're just, they're just eyes.And doing this, like, in the
hope that it works, right? Like they're hoping that this

(01:16:14):
magical ice bath will save theirparents somehow.
It's not like Deaton has explained to them how it works.
Or like maybe he has in the context of this episode.
He's just said you're going to die and then someone will bring
you back. It'll be fine.
What? It's not like they've seen
Deaton do anything much beyond stitch up dogs.

(01:16:36):
Yeah. And it just occurs to me in this
moment, as Styles, Scott and Allison are all sacrificing
themselves to save their family,so is Derek.
Yes, Derek is having like straight up parallel play in the
loft because Derek sacrifices his power at risk of death to
save his family. Yeah, Ouch, Ouch.

(01:16:58):
And doing it again without really knowing the consequences.
Without really knowing the consequences.
Doing it based on the story fromPeter, who was just like a
consistent liar. He is the most unreliable
narrator I've ever met. I feel like Derek should have
been OK. You're telling me I need to do
this, so I should maybe do the opposite?
Yeah, so maybe I should do something else.

(01:17:19):
Like if if Peter's saying I should do it, I should not, I
should not do that. It's wild but this episode just
wrecks me. Every single stinking time I
forget how many feelings I get and I'm just looking at this
going these poor kids, every stinking one of them.
No one is safe. No one is safe.

(01:17:39):
Yeah, yeah. My gosh.
They're not safe. This is too much for anyone to
handle and they just do it because that's their family and
their pack and that's who they are.
It's a bit redeemy for for Allison to step in, but she's
doing it for her dad. Yeah, because she loves her dad.

(01:17:59):
That's a very consistent character motivation.
Scott loves his mom. Styles loves his dad.
Allison loves her dad. Yep, this is.
This tracks and their friends have to kill them.
That's not great. That's a lot for for someone to
ask. Yeah, let's talk for a second.
Let's call it back at the beginning of this episode.
Yeah, Isaac has to watch her dietwice.

(01:18:20):
Yeah. Twice.
Ouch. Ouch.
Yeah. Big, big Ouch.
And it's not that like, Lydia doesn't have to watch her die
twice, because frankly, Lydia only watches her die the once,
but she she feels it in her bones.
But like, Allison's watching or Lydia is watching Allison and
Styles and Scott all die at the same time.

(01:18:43):
Like, are you a darkness around their hearts?
Yeah, I would imagine so. Yeah.
No pressure. One of the things that I really,
really appreciate about the season in this episode is that
3A and 3B, while telling 2 distinctly different stories,
are intrinsically linked. Because the stuff that happens
in 3B could not happen without the things that happened right

(01:19:04):
here in this episode of 3A. Right.
Yes. Like they're the two of these
two things, like the things thathappened this episode and next
episode and the things that happened in 3B are linked.
You cannot have 3B without 3A, and I just really appreciate
that kind of storytelling. Yeah, I was gonna say like,
good. I want that from the show.
Yes, I want, I want actions to have consequences.

(01:19:25):
That's the whole point. But I just, I really, really
appreciate it. Like, you know, like they're,
they physically have to lay downall of the seeds because just
three B by itself doesn't work. No, because you have to have all
of these pieces in order to have3B work.
Yep, Yep. I love this stupid show.
I love it. I am not normal about it.
I am, in fact, not alert. I am not normal about Teen Wolf.

(01:19:48):
Not. Normal.
Clearly, we're not. Clearly I thought I was over and
I was wrong. Never over it.
Never over it, never over the elevator scene, never over it.
That's. What we're gonna do when we hang
up here is just gonna go watch that on repeat for a while.
I don't need to watch it, it's in my head.
Fair. You just close your eyes and
you're like this. Thank you.
Derek. Derek, come on.

(01:20:08):
Well then this episode ends withA to be continued because this
and Lunar eclipse are basically a 2 parter.
For sure. So we will be back with the rest
of the episode with the 312 lunar eclipse, yes, which is the
3A finale, the mid season break.However, you would like to

(01:20:32):
divide Season 3 into because there's a pretty lengthy gap
between this episode and the next, or between 3:12 and 3:13.
Yeah, but they are counted as one big season.
Yes, they are. So we don't start with like 3B1,

(01:20:54):
we just go straight to 3/13. Yep, but in our in everyone's
hearts, it's 3B. Yeah, of course, of course it's
3A and 3B. And we know this because Stiles
and Derrick stop talking. Yeah.
For reasons but. Who knows?
For we'll, we'll talk, We'll getthat.
We'll talk about it. We'll talk about it.
We'll talk about it. All right.
Well, you know, thank you for listening.

(01:21:16):
You know, don't don't do this. Don't don't listen to Deaton
cause. No sacrifices the only the.
Sacrifices. The only kind of ice water herb
thing you should be drinking is perhaps putting some fresh mint
in your water glass. Yes, little mint, little lemon.
Little Basil, perhaps, but none of this.
None of this human sacrifice stuff.

(01:21:38):
Spice it up for the for the summer, Yeah, don't.
Don't do this. Yeah, if we're gonna take inspo
from anybody, it should be learning some very basic shibari
from Chris Argent. Yes.
Get inspired. Learn a little basic rope play.
Yep, Christopher should also notbe your mentor.
No, absolutely not. Absolutely not.

(01:21:59):
No one on this show is fully realized.
No all right, well, this has been alpha packed.
These two episodes are a lot, but they got to do what they got
to do to save their family because that's that's what Pack
is about. That's what pack is about.
All right, so we will catch you on the next episode.

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