(S3E16) Pack Dynamics: A Teen Wolf Podcast - Illuminated

Mostly naked Halloween parties? Must be Beacon Hills.

In 3×16, “Illuminated,” the power’s out, but the drama is very much on. Special Agent Douchebag (McCall) drags our heroes in for way too many questions, Stiles finds a mysterious extra key, and Kira is running an evidence-lockup heist for her phone.

Across town, Isaac gets attacked by scary shadow monsters, Chris Argent stays frustratingly tight-lipped, and Derek disappears from his loft for “unknown reasons” (citation: Teen Wolf Wiki). But let’s be honest: what this episode is really remembered for is the glowing, neon-soaked blacklight party—conveniently relocated to Derek’s loft thanks to the magic of plot. While the pack gets hunted by faceless smoke monsters, we’re treated to a technicolor fever dream of body paint, flashing lights, and one of the best versions of the Teen Wolf theme song ever (shout-out to The Bloody Beetroots).

A rough, cold night for everyone.

xoxo,
FotR

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Episode Transcript

(00:13):
You're listening to Pack Dynamics, a Fandom on the Rocks
podcast. Although now my brain just went
no, you pushed the button, I pushed the button.
Oh my gosh, I remember that episode.
No, you pushed the button, I pushed I.
Pushed a button. Well, this is not a cartoon.
This is Pack Dynamics, a Teen Wolf podcast.
I'm Emily. And I'm Allison.
And this is season 3, episode 16Illuminated Spooky.

(00:38):
Before I'm just going to dive right into the the overview
before we get into anything because then I'll forget to come
back around to it. Beacon Hills is under curfew
from the power outage. The the teens throw a black
light party. Black light Halloween party.
That's the important part. Scott tries to earn Kira's
trust. This episode aired January 27th,
2014. It's still.

(01:00):
Halloween. It's definitely Halloween.
I really appreciate that they get a Halloween episode.
For what it's worth, I appreciate that.
They kind of get to Halloween 'cause it's still mischief
night. Well, it's Halloween mischief
night. Well.
'Cause that last episode was like the early mornings of
Halloween, and this episode is the late nights of Halloween.

(01:21):
Yeah. So I really appreciate that all
of this has happened in the last, like, 24 hours.
Yes. Yep.
Yeah, this episode is minutes from the last one.
Pretty much potentially. I think I think 1516 are Part 1
Part 2. Like these episodes belong
together. Yeah, they they, they do.
There's there's absolutely no break.

(01:42):
It's like we escaped the place. Oh, and now we're being
questions about escaping the place.
Like this is 1/2 I do. Look at the whole episode.
Yes, me too. I love Halloween episodes or TV
shows and I I think it's sad when they don't happen.
I I really like gimmicky episodes.
I do. I love a Christmas episode.
I love a Halloween episode. I love like, you know, science

(02:04):
fair day like. I love gimmicky episodes.
They make me very happy. They remind me of when TV felt
like TV 'cause this whole like 8episodes once every three years
and a bundle thing just doesn't.It just doesn't.
No, it's garbage. I don't like it.
To place us in time and space, we are recording this on the 1st

(02:25):
of September, which is only important because we are
approaching 31 nights of Halloween.
Indeed, which is? The most important block of
television programming. Does do they still do that?
They do, it's just harder now because of how cable has become
so fucked up. But it does still technically

(02:46):
exist like Freeform will. Yes, whatever.
So Fox Family and then ABC Family and now Freeform.
Yeah, yeah. Back in the day.
Back back in the in the day, Yeah, but yeah, freaks.
But they will run a 31 nights ofHalloween schedule.
That sounds amazing, please watch it for me because it is I
do. I do not have access here, but

(03:08):
in its place I will throw out Practical Magic and Halloween
Town on on our like weekly movienights to get a little bit of
that vibe. Autumn is attempting to come to
Norway, or at least my back of Norway.
The leaves are starting to thinkabout changing and it's been
raining like nonstop for the last two weeks.

(03:28):
Beautiful. But it's it's a sunny, beautiful
day today, so I will take. It I like that for you.
Me too. Yeah.
So this it just feels like an appropriate episode for us to be
looking at. Also because it is the next one
in the queue. So indeed like.
We could go past it and we wouldn't want to.
No, of course not. I love this episode for a few

(03:49):
reasons, all of which we will scream about when when we get
here, when we get to the point of the episode, but this episode
just sits real nicely in my heart.
Yes, it does. Isaac's not having the best day.
Oh, Isaac, no. He is where we left him in in
the the Arjun apartment where he, I guess lives now frozen,

(04:10):
not quite solid, but frozen on the floor shaking when Allison
and and Mr. Arjun managed to to break in.
And Chris is like, bro, you needto you need to trigger and turn
into a werewolf. So he just like, slaps him into
it. My notes read Chris, don't beat
up your son. Stop hitting this poor boy.

(04:30):
But he he snaps out of it and he's crying and he's like, did
you see them? There's five of them.
They wore black and they have yellow green eyes like a
Firefly. Dun Dun.
And that's all very important because of course, Christopher
Argent always knows more than hesays.
And never tells anybody. Tell those children.

(04:51):
Doesn't tell anybody anything and in fact, he wants them to
keep quiet for 24 hours, 'cause he's like, hey, I don't think
they're coming for you, Isaac. I think maybe they're coming for
me. And then he gets out a special
box. Why would that be, Christopher?
Why are they coming for you? 'Cause he's got like a pussies,
you can't even see it at first. He just like holds up the
cameras behind and he's like putting 2 puzzle pieces together

(05:13):
but it turns out it's a mask. Spooky box.
Spooky look, Spooky puzzle. Smash mask?
Is this Cole? Is this theme music like
slightly different? Am I crazy?
OK. Great, this is The Bloody
Beetroots theme song remix and it is the only one that matters,
OK. Great.
I love this. I was like, I was going through
the whole thing going like, Oh yeah, this is the rave episode.

(05:35):
But it didn't occur to me until the theme song hit that this is
The Bloody Beetroots remix, and I just started dancing.
I like, I'm like watching this episode and I'm like, I'm just
jamming out. It was incredible.
I was like this music is way more hype than usual.
It is way more hype than usual because the the artist who's
playing later in the episode redid, it's a real artist.

(05:59):
It's a yeah. The DJ at the party is like a
real dude. Yeah, he's a real dude.
He's a real musician and redid the theme, the theme song and I
freaking love it. I do believe I have it on my.
I was gonna say I have fake iTunes.
Yeah, your fake iTunes. I I use a program called
Musicbee. I love it, but it's definitely
fake iTunes. Hey, we do what we have to do.

(06:21):
So over at the Sheriff's Department of Sadness, the the
McCall Pack is being interrogated by Detective
Douchebag about what happened atthe power station substation and
Styles is being an absolute sassand actually.
With the finger guns. Yeah.
And actually they all are, yes. Like they're all just playing

(06:43):
this like, well, we were there because we were there and we we
got there at the same time because we got there at the same
time. We were eating pizza, sushi.
We were eating pizza and sushi. Like they're just, they're all
being teenagers refusing to break.
Although, and I like that in thebackground, the sheriff is
absolutely having a great time. What can I say?

(07:03):
I take after my pops, he's in law enforcement.
And then it cuts to the sheriff if he just, like, visibly snorts
at his desk. I I did have questions like one
were these children read their rights 'cause they are being
interrogated by a law enforcement officer.
Yeah, but they haven't been arrested.
But like are why are they being questioned together if they if?

(07:24):
Detective, he has bad protocol. He does have bad protocol, like
you should be asking them questions separately because
they are actively getting their story straight in front of you.
Yeah, because like, he goes to Kira and he's like, is this how
you remember it? And she's like looking at
everybody and they all look at her and she's like, it's like,
did they teach you how to detective school, Sir?
Yeah, they, like, visibly lean forward to stare her down, like

(07:47):
that's what happened to Kira. That's what happened.
Like guys, guys, guys. I don't watch enough Law and
Order. Seriously.
I did like how like shiny Styleshis eyes were in this scene
though. Yes, he was very shiny.
But Kira is particularly worriedabout her phone being locked up

(08:07):
in evidence. So we have a a plot point.
Yeah, and she's not wrong. Something else I quoted in this
in this scene that he's not wrong.
Detective Douchebag is not wrong.
I like that you call him Detective Douchebag.
I have him written as Agent MC Asshole.
So just, you know, for funded for profit.
It's the alliteration on both ends.
Indeed. So they talk about, you know, a

(08:29):
mass murderer. But if all of this stuff is
true, then it means he's being controlled.
A mass murderer being controlledby someone is far worse.
And I'm sitting here going like,you know what?
You're not wrong. Yeah, it's happened before.
It'll happen again. Yeah, they're they always meet
the cronies first. Yeah, uh huh.

(08:49):
For sure. Oh, which reminds me, to set up
the spookiness of this episode in like, the very, very, very
beginning, before we get to Isaac being very sad and beat up
by his new fake dad, there are all of these children to
establish that it's Halloween 'cause they're going around and
Smashing Pumpkins. First of all, jerk faces don't
do that. The ghosty shadow mask guys show

(09:11):
up like walking down the street and the children are like
afraid. And my note in full caps goes
yes, spooky ghost guys get them kids.
Get those little fuckers. Because they're smashing other
people's pumpkins. Stop it.
So we have established that likeit is Halloween and the spooky
ghost guys are coming. They're coming.
They are there, they are in town, they have cool outfits and

(09:34):
masks. So Kira is complete.
That's completely right. Kira is really, really nervous
that her phone is being like putaway in lock up.
And we leave the interrogation to follow Kira home, where she
hosts the most beautiful at homephotography ritual I've ever
seen. Yes, she lights some candles.

(09:55):
It's all. I mean I've never looked that
good but just can't. Like it's all perfectly lit,
with the candle illuminating heras she takes photos of herself
through the in the mirror and the camera.
Is positively glowing. Literally glowing.
Literally glowing. In the photo in her camera
'cause she has this like golden aura around her in the photo.

(10:20):
You glow girl. You glow, girl.
And I don't, I mean, she finds it off putting at first, but I
think it's quite beautiful. It is quite beautiful, but I
would I will say if I started glowing out of nowhere I would
also be concerned. Yeah.
I mean, you have to start askingquestions about like, what's in
your tap water. Who are my parents?

(10:40):
Yeah. Where did we move to?
Is there some secret trauma? You, you are from the desert.
We did do some stuff in the desert.
We did it's. True.
So whoops might have some concerns.
Yeah, so she's got questions. And she absolutely wants that
camera back. Because if we remember, Barrow
took photos of her with her camera, with those awesome

(11:02):
little 2000s things that he was doing with her camera to like,
zoom in and use all of. This super cool optical control.
Somehow, he seemed to know what to do.
So we got to go to school and we've got Coach walking through
the hallway with a megaphone yelling at kids to class
world's. Best Educator.

(11:23):
Yelling Just because there's no power, don't expect there to be
no school. That's a triple negative.
Very impressive coach. I want to.
I want to say false. I feel like maybe if there's no
power in the entire town there is in fact no school.
Am I wrong? I mean honestly it depends on
what time of year it is. What are they going to do in

(11:44):
school? Like, think of all the things
that require power. There's not going to be any
food. The vending machines aren't
going to work. What runs their water like no.
Yeah, I don't know. I don't know.
We're not going to ask those questions, I think.
Let me tell you. What?
They wanted to put a megaphone in Coach's hand, which, you know

(12:05):
what? Same.
Let me tell you how many questions I'm going to be
asking. But yeah, so Styles is at his
locker and his key ring falls out and he happens to notice
that there is a new key on his key ring.
Now this to some people may seemfar fetched.
Like what do you mean you noticed a new key?

(12:27):
I notice when my keys are the wrong weight.
Yeah, here's the carrying that shit around.
I know how much my keys weigh. Yeah.
I like, you know, you get a new apartment and your house, your
house keys change. Or you get a new key at work and
your house keys change or like, whatever, and your keys change.
You're like, something's funny. Also he has like ADHD, his brain

(12:47):
is just wired. I will have additional questions
about styles keys later in the episode.
Sure, yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. But then we have a moment where
Scott walks in to the school. Kira's on the other end of the
hallway. He sees Kira.
Kira then turns around. Scott's going to go after her.
And Styles is like no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Because Styles has learned the Derek lesson.

(13:10):
Unless we can be absolutely surethat Kira is clear of being a
horrible murder monster, there'sno canoodling.
Nope, we do not make out with monsters.
Murders monsters regularly. Like Scott has not been the one
to make out with murder monsters.
That has been Derek. That has been Derek.
But at this point, Stiles is like no, no, no, no, no.

(13:32):
We have done enough of this, thank you.
Yeah, let's just take a couple steps back.
He's not wrong. Is Kira a murder monster?
Absolutely not, but they just need to make sure.
And I think that's a legitimate question for.
That I think that's legitimate. They've been hurt enough times.
They've been hurt many times before.

(13:53):
Which is especially true becausethere are two murder monsters
roaming around their high school, still trying to fuck two
of their friends. Literally.
So like trying to keep an unknown quantity at Bay for like
a hot minute I think is fair. Yes, and.
She's adorable, but like, let's just.

(14:15):
She is adorable. And will she be cleared of all
charges? Probably.
Yes, she was however electrocuted with a lot of power
and was fine. Yeah, so.
Let's just keep it in the pants for a minute.
Well, Speaking of keeping it in the pants with the murder
monsters, we flashed to the locker room of Requirement, yes,

(14:38):
where Danny is having some trouble with his very cool
Halloween blacklight party because his venue has no power.
Oh nice. He's got to be 18 right?
If he's out there booking a venue for a black light party.
Yeah, you got to be 18 to sign contracts.
Right. I mean, so we're going to put
him as a high school senior now because otherwise this is
insane. Yeah, so Ethan tries to solve

(15:01):
his problems because one, he's definitely got thoughts for
Danny, and two, is because he's confronting his brother because
he, Ethan, is right here. Scott doesn't care about power,
he cares about people. So Ethan's trying to play the
long game, be like, if we want to get together with Scott, we
got to start looking at the world like Scott does.

(15:22):
Aiden is not thrilled about this, but.
No, he is not. He doesn't.
He doesn't quite get it yet. No, but Ethan's, Ethan's getting
on board. He is and it gets called out
later like they they are still murder monsters and what are
they doing in this pack? Go away.
Go away, please. For sure.
But you know. You can't always get what you

(15:43):
want. But Speaking of murder monsters
trying to get in people's pants,we go to our next class, which I
guess is biology. OK, question.
Mr. Harris taught physics. And chemistry.
And chemistry. So how is Misses Martin
substituting for Harris in the biology classroom?
I think this is just a fuck up. Well, because Lydia mentions

(16:07):
that Mister Harris taught biology and that he's now at his
new job, Human Sacrifice. So what I'm getting is that
Adrian Harris was the only teacher in the science
department. I think it's just a fuck up.
Well, for sure, absolutely it should have been chemistry, but
maybe the chemistry classroom like isn't a set that I have any

(16:29):
more. Yeah, or or.
This is the only room that vaguely looks sciency and they
just use it for everything. Yeah.
So it's. Yeah.
But all of this aside, is that Adrian Harris is supposed to be
teaching this class, but he is now a human sacrifice.
So Miss Natalie Martin is stepping in as substitute

(16:50):
teacher now, just like with Victoria Argent.
Is she a A teacher? Is she certified to be A A A a
substitute teacher? Does she have any credentials?
She said she hadn't taught in like 5 years right?
I think so. So like, at least at least
there's something. Do they not have Subs on

(17:11):
standby? Isn't that like how substitute
teaching works? They do.
They have Subs on standby. You have a list and you in the
morning you get a list of like which teachers are out that day,
who's like called in sick and who's planned vacations and
whatever. And so you start kind of calling
them first thing in the morning.And so it's very possible that
Natalie may just be on a list, but they they because you don't

(17:32):
wanna, you don't necessarily have to have teaching
credentials in order to be a sub.
But no one on that list had beenteaching less than five years
ago. Maybe.
I just, I really just don't trust the school is what I'm
saying. No, we haven't seen the
principal in at least two seasons.
I don't. I don't trust.

(17:53):
Like, I feel like the education these kids are getting is not
preparing them to step outside into the real world.
But it is preparing them to havea rotating cast of of adults
that will give them directions in their lives.
I maybe. So Lydia and her mom sass back
and forth in the way that only mothers and daughters who are

(18:14):
both desperately trying to retain their social status will
do. OK, and how is Lydia gonna
embarrass Misses Martin when Lydia's clearly the smartest
person in that school? I think that's the joke.
I'm just saying. I think that's the joke, but
Lydia is sitting in the in the room and Aiden comes to sit next

(18:34):
to her and Lydia has basically decided that like, no.
And my favorite thing about her reasons for saying no is Boyd.
They bring up Boyd so often and I'm like good, good, yes, well,
Erica was killed by Collie in the vault and nobody, nobody in

(18:58):
that room is is there anymore. This is true.
Like literally nobody who witnessed that is alive, except
for maybe Deukalian. Yes.
Or did he die at the end of the last season?
I don't remember. No, remember they sent him off.
They did. They sent him away.
So Deukalian may have witnessed it, but Collie, Erica, Boyd,

(19:20):
maybe even Cora, they're all gone.
RIP. Yep, miss you.
I miss you, Erica, but Lydia, like, straight up, it's like you
helped kill Boyd. I can't.
You're not just a bad boy, Aiden.
You're a bad guy. And I don't want to be with the
bad guy. Yeah.
Like is she? She had to deal with Jackson who
went through some shit. Yeah, and Jackson wasn't the bad

(19:42):
guy he was. Just a bad boy, yeah, who got
caught up in some shit and he didn't even mean to.
Who got caught up in some shit it.
Wasn't even her fault. But Speaking of bad boys.
I I love where Derek ends up in this episode just because I
think it's funny with like the DJ and everything.
I have questions about his location throughout this entire

(20:04):
episode. So what we see is him closing
the door of the loft and like mynote here is hi Derek, where are
you going? So where, where is he going?
Derek, what time is it? And leaving the loft set up set
up. So my question I have to go back
and like watch it was Derek wearing the blue shirt when he

(20:25):
left the loft? Oh shit, you're right.
I think he was. Because he doesn't put the
jacket back on. So he takes the jacket to leave
the house and then the next timewe see him, he's just in a blue
shirt, no jacket. The little screen cap on the
Wikipedia of him, like putting the coat on the little there's

(20:45):
like a little sliver of his shirt peeking out and it's blue.
OK, so that's at least something'cause like, it feels like,
'cause that's like the last scene that we got of him last
season. You know it was him and Cora
leaving the loft just like that.Yeah.
And later, one of the twins saysthat, you know, where's the guy
who owns this place? Yeah, he's out of town.

(21:07):
So like, do they think that Derek's still gone?
I don't know, because when he leaves the loft, there's like
some light coming through. Yeah.
And it's in the. Very next day time.
Which is like his loft is alwaysdark, but the way it's lit, they
make it look like it's daytime. And the scene with Lydia and

(21:30):
Aidan, it's light enough. Although if they're trying to
pretend that there's no power inthe classrooms, like I don't
know. And then the next scene with
Kira and Scott, it's daylight. But then when you go back to
Derek, it's like pitch black, wherever the fuck he is.
Like what are where have you been?
I yeah, I, I don't know. It's very confusing, but I and

(21:52):
why do they think he's gone? I think they do this to set up
that the loft is still around and that Derek still has it.
I think so too, but they make itsound like everyone thinks he's
gone because when Ethan says that, I'm like, he's not out of
town. He went to get candy.
What the fuck? Like I don't understand.

(22:14):
I don't understand. He's coming back to do trick or
treating, except who would come to trick or treat at this place?
It's. AI feel awful saying this.
Has Derek been in this season yet?
In 3A or three, three. B. 3B starts at 13, right?
At 13. Yeah, I mean kind of little,

(22:34):
little bit. Because they did the whole thing
with Peter and Derek in the claws in the back of the.
Neck and the claws in the back. So yeah.
So he is back in town. But they maybe they don't know
that. Maybe.
Maybe they don't know that. Yeah, maybe they don't know
because Derek is having like hisown side plot adventures and
really isn't or hasn't been in much with the pack.

(22:56):
But they did that Peter and Derek did that claw thing with
with her in the loft. Yeah, they did it in the loft.
So why, why the twins think thatDerek is like still out of town?
I I don't, I don't know. I don't know.
But for me, they set up that theloft is still around and that we
still have it, that it's not some mystery magic location,

(23:18):
that it's like a real place thatwe've been before.
Yeah, it's bold of them to just think like, who does everyone
have a fucking key to the loft, apparently.
Apparently. So anyway, before they do that,
there's Scott and Kira having a little lunch.
Because Kira's hiding in the hallway where Scott used to hide

(23:38):
in season 1. Yes, yeah.
And Scott is just like that boy has had some training in like
trauma informed care because Kira immediately says like, I
don't want to talk about it. And Scott says, okay, you want
to talk about the precalc test on Friday.
Yep, he knows what that's. And it's like he's still there

(24:01):
offering her support and connection, but not immediately
talking about the thing that shedoesn't want to talk about until
she's ready to talk about it. And I just love that for him so
much. He's so stinking cute.
They're adorable. I love Scott and Cure so much.
And then, you know, they haven'tknown each other that long, but
you know, he was, he was there in the substation.

(24:24):
So she's like, hey, I needed to take this picture of me so you
can see what I see and probably not tell me I'm fucking crazy.
And he does, and he's really, really sweet about it.
I do wonder if his brain was like oh monster or like this
looks okay. Well, because like it, it didn't
reach out and attack him. It didn't do any of that.

(24:45):
And he can see it, but like, it's not, it doesn't look sick.
It doesn't look like a funny shape kind of like Peter did.
So like you know, seems reasonable.
Seems chill, it's like a nice pretty golden glowy.
Yeah, it's fine. Yeah, I think, I think this is
gonna be OK. Yeah.

(25:05):
So then he's and Kira tells him like this just started showing
up a few months ago and somehow Barrow knew about it.
And then Scott's like, Oh yeah, we need to get that phone.
Yikes. He Yikes.
Now, now we need that phone. So then we go back to Derek, who
I keep forgetting drives like a Jeep now and not the Camaro.
And it makes me angry time everytime.

(25:28):
So please appreciate my notes. And Derek growls at children, a
man after Emily's own heart. I actually really love the scene
every time I see it. But then Derek we learned that
Derek keeps a bag of Halloween candy in his car.
So is this what he was doing when he left?
Was to go get Halloween candy? Go.
Get Halloween candy. Except what it took him all day

(25:48):
to get one bag of. You know what?
Maybe he had other errands. Okay.
Maybe, yeah, but undisclosed errands?
No. My personal favorite though is
that his study is to go into thetrunk to get a new bag of
Halloween candy. He reaches into the driver's
side window to get an already open bag of Halloween candy.
Snacking on that candy as he's driving around.
You know this. Man.

(26:10):
And like, did he pull up to the loft?
Yes, that is the thing. He pulled up to the loft so he
is about to go home. Yes, so we've agreed that the
loft is in like some weird industrial downtown part of
Yeah. Where the fuck are these three
little trick or treaters? I don't know.
They just out alone downtown andnot in like the neighborhoods.

(26:33):
I don't know, but there's there's children, maybe there's
good like a trunk or treat goingon.
I don't know. But these little kids run up to
him and he very like menacingly reaches for the bag of Halloween
candy in his car. And then he decides to like he
very like intimidatingly, like plunks a candy bar in each of
their little buckets. And then he decides to shift and

(26:56):
like roll around them. Absolutely.
I love it every time. And so he's feeling they run
away and he's feeling pretty smug about himself, but that he
gets attacked by the shadow creatures.
They manifest around him so I'm OK given the timeline which give
it. You know this fucking Showtime

(27:17):
means nothing, but they get him first.
Right. Yes.
OK. It's Isaac 1st and then Derek.
I Oh, yes, OK, Isaac first, thenDerek.
But tonight it's just, it's beenso far, it's just Derek.
Well, I guess Isaac is the same day.
Yeah. I hate time.
Yeah, but it was a different episode, so.

(27:37):
It was a different episode. OK.
All right. So, yeah, they get they get
Derek first because it's hard. OK, we'll come back to Derek
later. So he goes.
Well, we don't know what happensto him.
He just the mysterious figures get around him and then poof,
poof. So we have the sheriff's station
because, you know, kids always have to break into the sheriff's
station styles. Give Scott and Kira like cloned

(28:00):
access cards to like the entirety of the station.
Lol. So they can try to get Kira's
phone back and he's going to hang outside to keep watch
because he is not about to make it worse for his dad with
Detective Douchebag. Correct.
I had a question of do those keycards still work if there's no
power because the little light beeps.
I was like are they battery? Are they?

(28:21):
Is there a generator like what are what are we doing?
Because they're magnetic, but it's going to be an electronic
key card reader. So maybe they're running on a
generator. Yeah, for like security
purposes. Maybe they have like a battery
backup? But then at one point a
detective douchebag like walks in the front door without
swiping. But maybe that door just opens
to the public. Maybe.

(28:42):
Yeah, I. Was like, OK, whatever.
That front door probably has keyaccess and not key card access.
That's fair. Yeah, I was like, but the
powers. Yeah, it would not surprise me
if those things had a battery backup.
There would have, I mean, otherwise no one needs the key
cards if the power goes out right?

(29:02):
They would just be locked. I would be willing to say that
they have a battery backup. Yeah, anyway, they they do the
sneaky snakes inside and get to Kira's phone, but obviously the
battery's dead. Because it's 2014 and.
Actually I bet the battery lasted longer then God.
It probably did. So now they got to find a
charger and I liked it. When they were digging around in

(29:25):
the drawers, there was a floppy disk in the drawer.
I was like, I see you, floppy. A legend.
A legend miss. You didn't hold Jack shit, but
you were cute. You were cool.
So they flip over and Agent Mccall's laptop to like, plug
the charger into the. I was like, why not just the
wall? But it was for this moment that
McCall has a picture of baby Scott as his background.

(29:48):
Turns out that he in fact does want to be a dad.
I mean, does he? Well, sorta.
I guess so. Out on Lookout Styles is like
flipping a little key chain around trying to figure out what
this mysterious key is all aboutwhen Detective Douchebag shows
up to spoil the party. I love that at least Styles is a
a good watch out like a good lookout.

(30:10):
Yeah. Because many lookouts are are
not good. That's a that's a nap time.
The lookout is a nap time. So, you know, obviously Styles
can't get a hold of Scott to give him a warning.
So what he does is leap out of the car and run after McCall to
distract him and starts to like,Babble incoherently about.

(30:30):
Oh, there's the link between theobviously it was a the student
or some whatever he says. And weirdly, McCall is like,
yeah, we've actually started looking at links between Barrow
and students at the high school.And that actually it was your
dad's suggestion, his one usefulsuggestion.

(30:52):
And I loved this moment because like the flip in styles, his
tone and like his face and like the little micro acting I was
like God damn. And This is why Dylan O'Brien is
the breakout star of Teen Wolf. It really is.

(31:12):
Though. He's so good, and in this season
he gets to just show off every single bit of his acting chops.
Yes, and we eat them all up. This is so good.
He flips on a dime. I wrote That was like, on a
dime. He starts to threaten you.
Can't recall. It's perfect.

(31:34):
Like this attitude, I can't evenlike do it because like the tone
of his voice and it like the waythe camera is from behind McCall
over his shoulder and like, O'Brien is like half shadowed.
He's very pale. But like, I think it's a little
foreshadowing to what he is later.

(31:54):
Yeah. But yeah, like, this attitude
you have towards my dad, I know the real reason you don't like
him. And he knows something you don't
want to know. You don't want him to know.
And guess what? I know it too.
Yeah. So Agent Mcassole has a Agent
Mcassole has a tragic back storyand styles knows.

(32:15):
Yeah, he does. Now knowing about the tragic
back story, a fucking course. Styles knows you couldn't keep
this shit from him. But keep anything from him.
We'll get there when we get there.
Yeah, you can't. He knows everything.
Yeah. Yeah.
I just this, this whole moment, I was like, This is why he's so

(32:36):
good. Yeah, so.
Scott and Kira get the pics of her glowing, delete it off her
phone and then leave it for evidence so it doesn't look like
they were tampering. And she's so cute when they come
like bounding out of the the Sheriff's Department.
She was like just like a fun time committing evidence
tampering. My favorite is that is that,

(32:57):
like, Scott has finally learned the Styles way of, like, bending
the truth. Yeah.
Like, I just told him that therewere pictures on your phone that
you needed deleted. What kind of pictures?
She's like naked pictures. She was like, oh, that's a good
idea. Yeah.
Like, OK. She's so supportive of this.

(33:19):
She's she's so supportive of thelike delete nudes off of police
evidence plan. Yeah, yeah.
I love her so much. Oh my God.
All right, so. Instead of going home.
We get to go to the loft, everybody at the club getting
glowy. I I mean it's so unnecessary but
I love how Isaac opens the loft door so that the audience enters

(33:43):
the party. Yes, like he.
He opens it and steps out of frame so that we're like walking
in. This fucking party looks like a
migraine. And I want to go to it so bad.
Oh I hate. It I want it so bad I.
Love, did you have fun, my sweetie?
I love everything about this ridiculous party.
All the paid people, all the weird, the DJ helmet, all the

(34:07):
all the stuff. I think this is the most
visually exciting party I've seen on TV in a long time.
It looks, yes, visually excitingon TV and I would love to be at
home in my pajamas asleep. And Isaac says the one thing we
are all thinking, Derek can never know about.
This yes. Oh my God, he knows what his dad

(34:29):
would say. Dad's mad.
Dad is going to be so mad about this, you guys.
And so. Wrong.
Yeah, but you know, Ethan and Danny, you're like flirting at
the the body painting station and I then you see the scary
ghost smoke monsters and my notes are like, Oh no, the scary

(34:50):
ghost to hear Danny. No.
I thought it was interesting that Danny kind of seemed to
like sense them. Yeah, Danny is now in one of the
like packs strongholds with packadjacent people.
Like he is getting a little too close for comfort here and I
love this for him. Danny belongs in the pack, but
like. Well he does, but I also want

(35:12):
him to just like escape forever and never get hurt.
Yeah, but his, he's best. He's with Jackson.
So like. Yeah.
Not going to happen. It's.
Not going to happen. So Ethan leaves Danny to get his
body painted because boy are people losing their clothes left
and right in this episode. And Ethan goes to get ice
because he has to go to the spookiest place I've ever seen

(35:37):
to get ice. I don't know why they didn't
just like keep the ice in the bathtub or something.
I don't know, but he has to go to a very spooky location to get
ice and the power goes out and it's very spooky and Etho's like
with the light bulb with the generators chat and the scary
ghosts attack Ethan. Yes, of course they do.

(36:00):
Of course they do. So he goes down by Ethan.
Rhett Row. 2 down. Then we got Styles, Scott and
Kira showing up and Styles is, you know, telling Scott all
about this key that just showed up on his key ring because we
haven't forgotten about that. Except a cute girl walks up and
just smooches Styles on the cheek.
Which. Congratulations.

(36:21):
Absolutely distracts him from the key.
Yeah, as it should. So the key is out of his mind
for for a hot minute there and then we've got Scott and Kira
holding hands. All cute except Allison is
across the way and sees them. And she's a little.
Sad. Then Allison gets a little sad
and then Scott feels a little funny and Kira sees them and

(36:42):
it's really sad and it's weird, but it's going to be OK.
And then Allison's trying to smile it off and then Kira kind
of disappears. And then Scott's like Alpha eyes
are looking around the party forKira and he can see the aura
with his Alpha eyes was actuallypretty cool.
And like it's. So.
Like. Flowy and pretty.
But then she turns around and like, look at that snout.

(37:04):
Yeah. Look at that snout.
It's very, it's actually very cute.
It's so cute. I I like this moment.
It's also fun to see like a a power.
I guess it kind of makes sense. Like, sure, I guess his alpha
eyes can see something magical. Yeah, that's the right word.
Like. That absolutely makes sense.

(37:25):
It's it like, it's like how we wish you could see, like the
chemo signals. Yeah.
Like it's just it's nice to knowthat his werewolf powers have
some visual cues too. Then that's fun.
Yep, Yep. So it's cool.
So then his, you know, his partyis raging all around and Styles

(37:46):
has gone and found the girl thatsmooched him and it turns out
it's Caitlin, our our girl from three Three Fireflies.
Who had that beautiful tent? That tent date with her lady.
Who died in the woods? Human sacrifice.
Yes, she was one of our our sacrifices and she she might be

(38:09):
partying her grief away still. Indeed.
Because Styles is like, Oh my God, are you OK?
And she's like, yeah, like, are you with hoe?
I mean, for the for the show, like, I think we can be like,
whatever. I think if you're going to
fanfic it, you're like, no, thisgirl is still very sad because
not that much time has passed. No, absolutely not.
For her girlfriend getting ripped out of the tent and

(38:31):
ending up a human sacrifice. Correct.
But she does ask Styles to danceand like, what's he going to
say? No, Yeah.
So off he goes. Bye bye.
And sweet Lydia is like off to the side just staring at people
being like, which I I was gonna say like, that's me at a party
going no, no, I'm going home. And Isaac and Aiden like walks

(38:52):
up to her with these like fake teeth like fake like razor teeth
in and she completely shuts him down.
Not as good as the real ones or as lethal like.
Such a doofus he's. Such a doofus.
Leave this girl alone for a minute, man.
Like she's mad. Let her be mad.
Just let her be mad, you know? So we go back, we're bouncing

(39:14):
around from pack to pack. Allison and Isaac are talking a
little bit, and Allison and Isaac's like, we got to tell
Scott about the smoke monsters. And Allison's like, no, my dad
wanted more time. And Isaac says I don't like
keeping secrets from Scott. Except for the Allison's secret,

(39:34):
yes. 11 Big secret. Just one.
Just just that one big secret. I think Isaac's kind of in the
right here of like, hey, this isthis is a problem I got I got
beat down by some smoke monsters.
And in the past, your dad knowing stuff that other people
didn't know was a problem. So like maybe we should pool our

(39:56):
resources earlier? And so Allison decides to
distract him. She does.
A little bit. So, you know, I'm just really
frustrated. And Isaac's like sexually, and
they're like, uh huh. The two of them have sexual
frustration now. At this point, I don't know if
the actors were day to the earth.
They had already broken up. I don't remember the timeline

(40:17):
anymore. Like there was definitely some
cast canoodling at in and aroundthis point.
Sure was. And she drops one of my favorite
lines of the whole episode because she just dies to strip
off her shirt and wore a bralette specifically for the
party because it's photoreactive.

(40:37):
Do you want to talk about Scott or do you want to paint my body?
She wants to paint her body. Absolutely.
Like it's. A really cute little bralette.
It is a super cute little bralette.
I love this for her. And it glows bright pink and
it's very her. And so Lydia's just like hanging
out on the side, making observations, looking at Allison
and Isaac, looking at Styles, looking at Aiden.

(40:58):
But. Yep.
Then she feels. Something.
Yep, yes she does. She knows something's not right
here and she starts calling out for Scott and ends up stepping
outside the party onto the balcony.
Literally looks like she's lookslike she's about to jump, like
she's gonna jump. I hate this for her.

(41:19):
It's also like a very unused part of Derek's living space.
I feel like he could really decorate this up and have some
like nice outdoor living space for himself.
You know, get some plants, get some tiny twinkly lights.
Yeah, I think he could really dosome work here.
Chair with a blankie. Yeah, have some coffee out there
on the weekends. But instead she sees a shadow

(41:43):
hand coming up through the concrete and crawling up through
the floor, and she tries to do her scream, but they stop her
from screaming. The ghost like takes her scream
from her mouth. But I'm like literally level up,
OK, Literally like take her voice.
Like ah, also super cool. Very cool and also I hate it and

(42:06):
she. Of things.
Speaking of things I hate, yeah.Yeah, many.
Lydia goes down. Lydia goes down.
Speaking of things I hate. Sucks.
So we are back in the party and we go back to Styles and
Caitlin, who decide to have probably the most fandom famous

(42:26):
conversation comes out of Teen Wolf.
Yep, yes we do. For context, today I went on a
very long hike and about halfwaythrough I just decide because I
was reflecting on the podcast that we were going to record
today and I yelled at the universe towards my husband but
not at him. You know what I mean about this

(42:48):
conversation and how angry I still am about it 10 years
later. Yep.
So Caitlin has brought styles like a beer or something and
asks if she's got like a beer, abottle opener and takes the his
keys, the special keys that are plot pointy and the the new key

(43:09):
glows because there's turns out there's phosphorus on it, like
something new about the key, andhe's like thinking about it.
But then Caitlin kisses him instead and Styles is like but
girlfriend. And her response is, I do like

(43:29):
girls do you? Styles is like, absolutely
great. So you also like boys.
And Caitlin goes absolutely do you?
And Styles doesn't answer, but he does think about it.
The thing that gets me about this particular conversation,

(43:50):
especially in this rewatch, is that, you know, if it had just
been that he like kind of like open eyed, open mouth kind of
like, and then they'd cut away to something else.
I don't think I'd be I I'd stillbe mad, but not as mad.
He immediately looks around. What you looking for, bud?

(44:13):
Where are you? Yeah, he's like fuck, like
actually contemplating or like, And there's also studies about
where your eyes track when you are thinking about certain
things. So like when your eyes track One
Direction, it's light, One Direction, it's lighting up
different parts of your brain. So like if you're lost in

(44:35):
thought and you're looking in a certain direction, you're
probably daydreaming or you're doing analytical work or you're
doing whatever. So he's like, he's actively
thinking. He's acting.
I mean, he's thinking about. That acting but like you could
use a different take, you know what I mean?
I'm so mad about it. I'm so mad about it.
Because a different take or a different script is so you like,

(44:56):
you also like boys. Absolutely.
Do you? No, but that's not the script.
And there's been, and like we'vediscussed in this fucking
podcast, there's been what, two or three other conversations
with his dad where he's like, I could be gay.
I could like boys. You're not gay.
Well, I could be. I could be.
Am I attractive to gay guys? This makes me really want to

(45:16):
kiss. You can't.
Can you just kiss me right in the mouth?
Yeah. Like this is not the first time.
And I just style. Stilinski walked so that Evan
Buckley could run, dear. Sweet Evan.
That's all I've got is like, I know this is this is this is as
close as a confirmation as we ever get to buy styles.
It is. I know in this moment it's not

(45:37):
even about like, is it styles and Derrick?
Is it Styles and Scott? Is it Styles and Isaac?
It's just about styles. Mm Hmm.
Yep. Like it's just about styles and
I there are people in Phantom who were like no styles of
straight what does it matter? But I'm like you can't look at
this and not ask the question. Yeah, and like, I don't know,
you do you if you want, but like, we're gonna do us.

(46:02):
And this is the text. This is This is the text I'm I'm
I'm I'm interpreting the text asI see it.
And you get to the writers couldhave written it differently.
And that's also where, like queerbaiting comes in, right?
Like. Right.
They this passed through so manyrevisions to get to scream

(46:23):
right? There were so many opportunities
and drafts to then say, you knowwhat, we shouldn't we're we're
not going to do this because he.He could have responded any, any
kind of different ways from a straight no to a huh, I've never
really thought about it to, you know, well, not tonight.
Yeah. Like and any of those would have

(46:45):
been fine, but what they do is let him sit and think about it
and he and they have him in the end, the in the edit in the, you
know, the thing that they chose looking around and realizing
where he is. They could have also filmed this
and then cut it from the show. Right, because it.
Absolutely. It absolutely has nothing to do

(47:09):
with anything because you could just the.
Phosphorus the. Phosphorus and then he
immediately goes oh shit I thinkI know what this is because he
then immediately cause Caitlin starts kissing on him and he's
like thinking too much about thephosphorus key and then he's got
to go and then brings her an entire bottle of water.

(47:31):
And I love this for him. They didn't have to have this
mental conversation at all. The scene works without it.
So this was a choice, this was an intentional choice, and I
have so many questions. Yep.
But I feel pretty safe to say that this podcast believes in by
Styles. Yeah, obviously.

(47:52):
Like I just, I feel the need to say that out loud.
Like we believe in by styles. Yes.
So. Duh.
Put a stamp on it. Put a stamp on it, signed,
sealed, delivered. Like, absolutely.
And Caring Styles, who does bring her a bottle of water and
tells her to drink it because you should be drinking water at
a party. Oh my gosh, always drink water.

(48:13):
OK, can I go on? Like a science, Like sojourn.
Sure, it's our podcast. We know what the fuck we want.
When you are hungover, when you are drinking and you get
hungover the next day, what a hangover is, is dehydration
because the process that your body uses, it's literally called
alcohol or de Alcoholics. Alcoholics, whatever the enzyme

(48:34):
is that breaks down the alcohol,it uses a fuck ton of water in
that process. And so when your body is
breaking down alcohol, it is using way more water than it
usually needs to break down thatstuff.
So when you are hungover, when you've got that really bad
headache and that really bad nausea that's caused by
dehydration when and also, you know, alcohol poison.

(48:57):
But don't do that. So when you are drinking, for
the love of all that is good, put water in your body.
One alcohol to 1 water. It will not make you less drunk.
It will make you pee more. I'm sorry about that, but your
body needs the water in order tobreak down the alcohol that

(49:18):
you're putting in. So please please please please
please. We're not kidding about drinking
water. Please please please because
being hungover sucks and if you are ever I'll from drinking too
much, that is the first sign of alcohol poisoning.
My good dudes. Please please please stop.

(49:38):
Just because it's out of your tummy doesn't mean it's out of
your system. This has been science sojourn
with Allison. If you're ever at a a black Lite
party with a bunch of werewolves.
They're. Gonna heal and you're gonna not.
They're gonna heal and you're gonna not including Scott and
Kira, who are being super adorable on the roof.

(49:59):
Also, just like coffee isn't what's curing your hangover,
it's water. It's water.
Also, coffee will not make you less drunk, it'll just make you
very perky. Yeah, it's just the caffeine
warring with everything else. It's the upper of the caffeine
fighting against the the the downer of the alcohol.

(50:19):
It's gonna give you a heart attack.
Stop it. And also, you don't have to
drink to have fun. Oh weird.
Anyway, but yes, Scotty and Kiraare being freaking adorable on
the roof and I just love this for them so much.
I know and she and he tells her that the aura around her looks
like a fox. It's so sweet, it's very cute,

(50:41):
but we have to leave it to AllieA to give us our next plot
point. I love this for them because
Allison and Isaac are back inside being really sexy woo
woo. But then she sees something
weird behind his ear. Yes, it's like a.
Little something. A raised up turns out to be a a
#5. So I think they Danny, I think

(51:06):
comes up to them is like, have you guys seen Ethan?
And they haven't, nobody seen Ethan in like half an hour.
And so Allison and Isaac go adventuring and they find Ethan,
who is frozen and sad in the iceroom.
Yep, which is kind of funny. He's frozen in the ice room, the
whole Isaac breaks his arm to trigger the healing.
With that, he learned from his alpha daddy.

(51:27):
Yes, and they also find Lydia out freezing cold on the
balcony. Danny and Aiden end up finding
Lydia on the balcony. Everybody is so cold,
unfortunately they can't break Lydias arm to trigger her
healing. So no, they just have to put her
next to the heater. That sucks.
They all have the number 5 behind their ears.

(51:47):
So does Derek, who is all alone.Eric has been passed out this
entire fucking time, yes. You're telling me that Danny,
Aiden and Ethan all did the equipment load in and nobody
passed? Barrick's like passed out
fucking body in the parking lot,right?
Yes, 'cause that he's at home, he's at the loft.

(52:07):
He's literally in his regular parking spot.
Yeah. What?
What you fucks? That's why my note was like 1
how did he recover on his own and two, where is he?
Well, so he's. At home.
He has been so like in theory everybody else gets found by
somebody within on the like within an amount of time.

(52:29):
Like Allison and Chris hear Isaac get attacked so they are
on him immediately. It takes Allison and Isaac about
1/2 hour to find Ethan, and Aidan and Danny find Lydia.
Maybe 5-10 minutes. Derek has been down there the
entire time. The sun has set, an entire party
has gone on, so he's probably been there four or five hours.

(52:53):
Cold. Just cold.
And freezing on the ground. Yeah.
So Derek got attacked, he wakes up, he's also marked that like
#5 thingy on his ear and he roars this like big awful roar.
And who hears him? Scotty McCall, who is standing

(53:13):
on the roof. Which, OK, is not that far away.
Not that far away right there, but like the look, the look on
Scott's face is like, I didn't know you were home.
Like did did we think that he wasn't home?
I. Where did everyone think he was?
He was just. Maybe he was still in Mexico,
maybe they hadn't. He hadn't, like, said anything.
I guess he must have been. He's a poor man.

(53:36):
His friends don't even know thathe's gone.
RIP. So Derek, you know, Waltz is
back into his own God damn home towards the DJ.
Daddy's home. The bouncer tries to stop him
because he's dumb and he's like I said the DJ doesn't take
requests Derek's like he'll takemine and just smashes the ones

(53:59):
and twos to the. Ground buy and then he yells and
evicts all the party goers. Then I was like his poor house.
Yeah. I'm sure there are clothes
everywhere and paint. It's already been flooded at
least once. At least once there's blood
stains everywhere like. It's a good thing he owns it
because he's not going to get the deposit back.

(54:20):
Seriously. So everyone's kind of around,
but so are the the smoke monsters who are moving in like
a creepy unison and all of them are looking at Aiden.
Dun Dun. Who's like, they're all looking
at me. The scene is also blue, so you
know that it's battle time. Yeah, it's battle time, so Derek

(54:43):
and Scott go in to attack the ghosties, but they lose pretty
bad. Isaac starts to go in to a
ghosty, but then a ghosty pulls a sword out of his belly.
That was pretty sweet. Like whoopsie daisies, they just
upgraded, OK? Yeah, I like that.
That was cool. And so then everyone's kind of
beaten down on the ground. And so they go, the ghosties go

(55:04):
to Aiden and they do this thing where they like put a ghosty
hand kind of on the back, like on the side of his head and then
like brush down, mark him behindhis ear, and then he goes down.
So also surprised. Not sure if we've noticed this,
but Kira's still in the room. Yes, so.
Surprised Kira. Is it on the secret?

(55:25):
Oopsie daisies. Yeah, 'cause Scott and everyone
did do some some eye growling, teeth out, some claws.
Whoopsie doodles. Yeah, oops, Scott's alpha eyes
are out. But then the the sun comes up
and the smoke creatures just kind of disappear.
Poof. As the sun hits them and Isaac's
like, yeah, your dad's 24 hours are up.

(55:48):
Speaking of his new father, Christopher, middle name Argent
rolls back into his own apartment door.
With he, he is completely beaten.
He got the shit beaten out of him.
He is covered in blood. He's leaving blood stains.
He's everywhere. Still wearing the wedding ring,

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I cry. I know.
And he just like, falls down in the middle of his hallway.
As Allison's number blinks on his phone.
'Cause she's calling him. Oh.
What? Christopher.
Christopher. I think he's going to be OK.
I think he's going to be OK too,but like the fuck?
Yeah, where where you been, buddy?
In the last 24 hours. What you been doing so and then

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finally. Speaking of what you've been
doing. It's another day maybe, possibly
because it's kind of light out. Maybe it's tomorrow.
Styles is using his special new key on a door in the school and
it is opening the chemistry class.
Yeah, it's opening the chemical closet inside the chemistry

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classroom, which nobody has keysto.
As somebody who used to have master keys to like a lot of
different things, at any given school there's only like 2
people who have keys to the chemical closet.
Like your average run-of-the-mill principal
doesn't have keys to the chemistry closet.
Like that is not a common key. Well, now styles does.

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However, more importantly, more importantly than this very
spooky glowing chemistry Key styles.
How old are you? What?
17? How old?
Are you styles? Why do you have a bottle opener
key chain on your key ring? What?
Cause boys are dumb. What possible use could you have
for a beer bottle opener key chain?

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Boys or don't do that. At least he doesn't have like
the Croc flip flop with the bottle opener on the bottom.
Oh my God. What are those fucking shoes are
my? God, I love that.
Yeah. But yeah, so no.
Turns out that Styles definitelyhas a key to the chemical
closet. Whoops.
A doodle. Whoopsies.
So, you know, he's the chalkboard is ahead of him.

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And this is where the atomic numbers have had been written
that spell out Kira's name, which is how they were like, uh
oh, Kira's the one that Barrow was after.
And then he's like looking at itand he goes to the chalkboard
and picks up the chalk and writes those same numbers next

(58:26):
to the ones that are already there.
And the handwriting is a match. Rat Row.
Oh no. So, styles, what did you do?
Two points here. 1 Yes, this manhas incredible hands.
That is fandom. Lore like I, I'm this is

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incredible. Like they just focus in on his
hands as he's writing and I'm like, wow, those are beautiful
hands. Second, wasn't he in the room?
Didn't he also write 'cause it was like him and Lydia who were
like writing on the other side, right?
I don't remember who wrote the Kira 'cause they wrote down
'cause the 19. I don't remember the numbers

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were the the numbers were already on the board, right?
It's it's Styles and Lydia. Yeah, the numbers were already
on the board, but I think it's Styles.
It's Lydia who's dictating and Styles who's writing.
Who's writing it? So did he not recognize his own
handwriting? Did Lydia not?
Maybe they didn't recognize the difference between the letters

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and the numbers. Maybe, but like styles, you
would think would recognize his own handwriting.
Maybe they were so panicked at the time.
Maybe. Or maybe Styles wasn't thinking
clearly. Styles wasn't.
Yeah, so I, I don't know, but itturns out that the numbers

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match. So it turns out that Styles was
the one who wrote the numbers todirect Barrow to take Kira.
Yeah. Who's the murder monster now?
Oops, oopsies. What are you doing styles?
He's having a bad day. Yeah.
He's having a bisexual crisis. Turns out he may have just tried

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to sacrifice his besties. New Girl I was.
Going to say that's your bud's New Girl.
What are you doing, man? Yeah, we know that Derek
constantly fucks the bad guy, but Scott's doing pretty good so
far. Related to the bad guy.
Malone Yeah, that's that's a bigno no.
Yeah, he's having a rough day. He's having a rough day.

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I like this episode. Oh my gosh, so do I.
I love this episode. It's so much fun.
It has so much. It's a turning point for fandom.
Sure. There are a number of fix that
were birthed out of this episode, particularly about kind
of the end of the conversation that Styles has with Caitlin.
You know, kind of what it what it looks like and what it means

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and where he goes from there. And as opposed to here where
they just drop it and never mentioned it ever ever again.
I was gonna say it turns out they don't go anywhere.
With it, they don't go anywhere.So Phantom does does that for
us. Yeah, it turns out it means
nothing. But but.
It means everything to the fandom, so it's all good.
It does. Yeah, I wonder who has to clean

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up Derek's apartment. Derek.
Yeah. Can't control his little pack.
No one's gonna come and clean that up for him.
Poor dude. Everyone's having, well, yeah,
everyone's having a shit time, but actually everyone's having a
shit time. And it's gonna get worse.
It does. I mean it.
It is one of those things where like in ATV show like this where

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absolutely every main character gets their own bad thing that
happens to them correct and now it's styles is turn.
It's styles is turn poor dude. But like is a really bad thing.
Yeah, it's not. I, I was reflect.
I was, I was reflecting on it earlier and I will continue to

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reflect on it as we go through the season.
Scott and Allison seem to get pretty good ends of the deal,
all things considered. Yes, I think so.
I mean, I don't wanna be like, maybe I do wanna a a styles
Stan, but between the three of them, like styles get shit on
when it comes to the the ceremony, Yeah.

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He like Jesus, man. Yeah, he gets the short end of
the stick there. I mean, like, there's there's
something to be said that about the stick that Allison receives.
Like not great great but but so excited to move through the
season. I love I love three BI.
Always think that I'm going to love 3A more but by the time I
get through them, 3A and 3B are just both so good.
Yeah, I like these. Next up is Season 3 episode 17,

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Silverfinger. Silverfinger.
So we get to learn a little moreabout Chris Arjin's back story.
Love this for us. I know.
Everyone else might be like, butI'm like, yeah.
Well, mostly because we get to see some some young Chris in
this and my pitafer goes off thecharts.

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Oh no. My pitafer bubble just was like
we, we, we, we, we, we. Sometimes it's hard to see him
like clean shaven. It is.
It's a little odd. You're like, Oh no, put that
beard back on, buddy. But Oh my gosh, yes, my my, my
Chris and Peter alarm rings strongly.
It does. So.

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It sure does. Sure does.
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illuminated. Please go drink some water
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