December 10, 2025 • 55 mins
Teen Wolf said “What if we combined wartime tragedy, supernatural lore, AND your unprocessed emotions?” and 3x21, "The Fox and the Wolf" was born.
This episode is a two-lane highway — half of it is Void!Stiles wreaking absolute havoc in Beacon Hills, and the other half is a 1943 flashback that turns the entire Nogitsune story into a tragic origin romance you absolutely were not emotionally prepared for (we weren't).
In 1943 we meet young Noshiko (played by Arden Cho, living her best multi-role life) and Corporal Rhys, the painfully adorable, utterly doomed soldier she’s secretly seeing.
Back in 2014, Kira learns her mother is 900 years old and also the original source of the Nogitsune (ouch). Meanwhile Void!Stiles is at peak chaos gremlin, politely bapping books off shelves like a feral library cat.
And just for fun, Teen Wolf drops a fandom bomb for the ages: Stiles has revised his supernatural metaphor chess set… and now Derek is the King. Are we not supposed to ship them?
We really are in the endgame now.
xoxo,
FotR
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You're listening to Pack Dynamics, a Fandom on the Rocks
podcast. Hello, welcome to Pack Dynamics
18 Wolf podcast. I am Emily.
And I'm Allison. And this is Season 3, episode
21, The Fox and the Wolf. Yeah, Buddy A Woo just diving
right into the summary. While Allison, Derek, Chris and
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Sheriff Stilinski try to track down a Nagitzine, Kira's mother
tells the story of the Nagitzineshe came to know.
Meanwhile, the Nagitzine, how many times we say that in one
sentence, has taken complete control of styles and manages to
stay one step ahead. This episode aired March 3rd,
2014. I'd like to.
State where there was hurt that this episode hurts my heart.
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It's not. It's not fun.
It's not fun. This is not a fun episode.
No. Very important, very good, but
like. Much plot.
Do you ever There's a whole thing on the Internet about how
you can tell someone's a millennial by the way they talk.
Oh my God. And it's just like, much plot.
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Wow. I was like, yeah, OK, so I'm
old. Dude much plot.
Wow. And the fact that I end
sentences in real life out loud with lol.
Oh, I know. I.
Just I I am a millennial. I know this.
It's fine. Yeah, I'm.
Old I don't. I'm not gonna change my slang
for you. No, it's not.
Are you gonna take me seriously if I say the word Skibbity
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Toilet? No, even though I mean it.
Even though I mean it. You're not.
Think that's funny there. I don't know what it means.
I have a podcast in my queue that's like an explainer on
Skimpity Toilet and half of me is like I don't even wanna
listen to it, I don't care. Like.
I don't even care enough to understand what it means.
I like to say hella, hella. Oh my God, I love the word
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hella. Like the kids today, they're
using Ohio, I think, as part of their slang.
And I think it's some, I don't know what, what it means.
It's not good. Nothing good ever comes from
Ohio, except I guess, Glee. Hey, wrong, wrong.
Wrong. Still.
Still adequate at best. Friends.
A couple of friends, yeah. Our friends like we have lovely
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people who come from Ohio, but as a as a concept, I understand
that Norwegians don't use Ohio, they use Texas as slang for
something that is totally crazy and out of control.
It's much more accurate. Yeah.
I mean, Florida, come on. It's right.
There, they're like, oh man, that party was totally Texas to
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mean that. It was like banana nut muffin
out of control, Chaotic. See, that's what I say is
something was banana nut. Yeah.
No, that's, that's, that's I think.
Did you get that from me or did I get that from you?
I have no idea anymore, I probably got it from you.
Probably. Yeah, I don't know anymore, but
I probably got it from you. Yeah, this is kids, by the way.
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This is how you know that you have found that like those
things that you take from other people who you love, who like
live in your lives is you'll pick up affectations from them.
Yep. So even if Emily and I were to
break up like tomorrow, she'd still take banana nut away and
and I would live with her forever as her chili recipe
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lives with me. Yes.
I made chili last week and it was freaking delicious, by the
way. Delicious.
I leave a trail of people sayingboth.
That's what I do. Not me, but I'm sure there are
others. There are indeed, but that's not
what happens in this episode. No, in today's episode, we're
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going to do something that we should have learned about in a
history class in high school, but we do not.
Oh, we do. We don't.
Yeah, internment cans for the Japanese.
Real thing, a real thing that wedid.
Yeah. Real.
A real thing that we did in the United States.
We sure did. We, we sure did.
If your school did not teach youabout Japanese internment camps
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during World War 2 and beyond, Google it.
It sucks. It happened.
I think people on the West Coast, schools on the West Coast
do a little more teaching on it because that's where we did it.
These are our this. This is our sin to bear.
Well, it's the whole country's, but specifically us.
We did this. Yeah, it was terrible.
And this Teen Wolf episode does not does not really show how
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awful it was. No.
These are, they call them internment camps.
They're, I don't know if you want to say they're a step below
concentration camps, but yeah, they're prisoners.
They're prisoners. They're not, They're not
anything less than prisoners. It's a prisoner of war camp.
They politely get called relocation camps, but yeah,
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they're prisoners of war. They're held because they are
considered enemies of the state,because they are simply Japanese
citizens during World War 2 and God forbid they lived their
lives. Yeah, I believe it's George
Takei who wrote on this. Yeah.
Yes, there's a musical called Ohman, I can see the the Playbill
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in my head and Elias Salongo wasin it.
Oh, man, what was it called? Allegiance.
There was a a musical about thisthat George Takei wrote based on
his personal experiences. Yeah.
And I think. It's real living history.
Yes. He this is this is real.
Yeah, this is real. Not the Japanese demons,
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necessarily. No, I mean, I guess it hasn't
been proven. False.
You know what? There's enough stuff happening
in the in the world. I don't.
There's a lot of stuff happeningthat I don't understand, so I'm
not gonna say that anything really isn't real.
Sure. OK, Except for people being able
to control hurricanes 'cause we don't know how to do that.
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No, we. Don't yet we we don't know how
to do that. That's not happening, guys.
No, we don't. I mean, if we did, we would just
like dissipate them. Yeah, that'd be super.
Obviously. Bring a little bit of water to
deserted OK travel how to drink ravaged areas and bring a little
a little sun to places that havetoo much water and.
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The government control hurricanes.
We would simply be watering our crops.
What are we doing here anyway? So all this to say is that this
is going to be a really heavy episode if you don't know much
about Japanese internment camps in the United States during
World War 2. It is fascinating and terrible
and like, look into it. It's it's, it's, it's
interesting and important history, even though it is
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horrendous. There are places I think like in
California and I think Washington left that you can do
like guided tours of the the remaining sites, which you know,
bummer, but interesting. And important.
Yeah, it's very important we. Need to learn about our history
so that we don't repeat its mistakes.
Yes, theme of the episode. Theme of the episode.
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So this episode of Teen Wolf hastwo separate storylines
happening, the search for Void and the origin story of the
Nuggets an AI guess this Nuggetsan A.
This particular Nuggets an A this.
Particular 1. So we are gonna make an attempt
to talk about them in a way thatmakes sense, and if it doesn't,
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so sorry. So the.
Mode also doesn't make a ton of sense.
It's definitely one that you have to watch a couple of times.
Don't worry about it. Don't worry.
About it so we open the cold open starts in 1943 all of the
flashbacks are in kind of a veryshort period of time in 1943 at
the Oak Creek internment camp inNorthern California.
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Oak Creek is not a real concentration camp or internment
camp, but it is real to the TeenWolf universe.
So we open in 1943. We've got this like army truck
and two soldiers unloading bodies while telling each other
or telling riddles while throwing bodies into a a a burn
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pit. One guy is telling riddles and
trying to get his like comrade to to laugh and the guy's like
that's not funny. None of this is funny.
And he's correct. None of this is funny.
None of this is funny. They aren't named in the scene,
but this is Merrick and Hayes and these are two of our main
MPs who will remain soldiers that we'll see throughout the
the flashbacks. I do get annoyed when characters
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are introduced and not immediately named because I'm
trying to take notes. Exactly.
Give me your names even if. It's Justin.
Like the subtitles like Give Me Your Name?
Yeah, give me. I love when subtitles have
names. Yeah, it's pretty great.
My notes were just like, I'm like, oh, these are two guys
just, like having a nice time telling riddles.
Bodies. Look at all these corpses.
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And then they start to, like, pour gasoline on top of the
corpses and I'm like, they're gonna burn the corpses.
They sure are. A lot of time to be playing with
riddles, gentlemen. Yeah, yeah.
I mean, you know, soldiers have done truly awful things
throughout history, Indeed. And there is no excusing
anything. But I'm these are not the only
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two soldiers who have told jokesto cut through the awful, yeah,
tension of what they are forced to do in the name of of war.
But they are still awful people,so.
They make other choices, and throughout the course of this
episode that reaffirms that they're terrible people.
They do. So yeah, they're about to light
up this burn pit and there's a rapt body, our friend the
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nagisode standing in the grave. Hey, buddy.
Hey bud. And it is now very apparent that
the Nuggetsane is wearing army pants.
Yeah, if it wasn't before, it isnow incredibly obvious that he
is dressed at least on the waistdown the same way they are.
They try to shoot him, doesn't work, and he attacks them and
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has his own Riddle to come back with.
What has a neck but no head? And then he rips one of the guys
heads off so. And you know what?
For all of the chaos and strife and pain that the Nigetzine has
caused this season, I was on hisside here.
I was on his side. Yeah, I.
Was like, you are correct Mr. Nigetzine, fuck these guys up,
fuck them up. Yeah, fuck them up.
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They they had this one coming. They truly did.
Sometimes murder is OK. I don't know man.
You know what? In this in this particular
fictional instance, I'm I'm down.
Yeah, this one's fine. So that is the cold open that
is. This, this is how you do a cold
open. This, I love this.
This is such a solid cold open. It sets the tone, it tells us
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information, it helps us patch things together.
It stays with me. It's incredible.
Also apparently gave Benniganj anew name in all caps.
Riddle Murder. Bandage man.
Yes, I like it. Riddle Bird.
I can't say it. Riddle Murder.
Bandage man. I feel like that truly
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encompasses his whole character.Riddles, Murder.
Bandage man. Yeah, and like, weird bloody
mouth. Yeah, that's the Yeah.
Yeah. Real like the Nikitzine is
truly, as we like, look at, you know, villains throughout Teen
Wolf. The Nikitzine is really where it
starts getting like, spooky. Spooky.
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Spooky. Yeah, his costume design, while
it doesn't make much sense. Until you get all the pieces.
It's pretty sweet, like it's a good.
It's somebody really thought this out.
Yeah, I like it. And it is, especially as you get
all this back story attached. It's tragic, it's horrible is
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it's it's tragic. And like a Shakespearean, it's
always going to end this way. And, you know, and we'll talk
about it because we're gonna, we're gonna do it.
But. They.
We're going to talk about it. That's our merch.
We're going to talk about it. They do so much in so little
time. So Teen Wolf kind of, I don't
know why vomits was the word that pop into my head.
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I think I meant like oscillates.I don't know, in their seasons
of stretching things out too long or powering through plot
lines, right? Like season 1, boom, here's our
plot right through it. And then sometimes you're just
like, OK, this is dragging like a little bit, what are we doing
here? But they pack a back story into,
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I don't know, 20 minutes becausethere's the flashback and then
there's the present day. Yeah, there's half an episode
and they scream. They scream an entire back
story. And you end up kind of like
feeling for these two. Oh, yeah.
And you're like, OK, it doesn't.I mean, considering what the
back story is, you're like, oh, this is like a bad idea.
But you kind of feel for these guys, like they're great actors.
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There's some great lighting, like the music, like it all kind
of works together to be like, damn, this sucks.
And I don't even know these kids.
And then of course, you're looking at it kind of with the
the comparisons of Scott, and you're looking at Scott and
Allison, you're looking at Scottand Kira.
They're just two dumb young kidsin love, torn apart by the
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things in the world that they don't understand and can't
control. And yeah, we've all read, well,
a lot of us have read Romeo and Juliet.
We know what happens when you know anybody who's ever met a 16
year old and says no, you can't do that.
Like you know what the answer's going to be.
The fuck I can't. The fuck I can't.
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The rage, the grief, the power, the, the violence that can come
out of it. Do I agree with their decisions?
It doesn't matter if I agree with it.
I understand it. And I don't quite have, you
know, spooky demon powers. But if I did, I, I, you know, I
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get, I get why I get how I understand.
We're all a bit a bit wild. But Speaking of the only man in
Beacon Hills, A true unproblematic fave.
An Angel, An icon. A walking green flag.
Ken Yukimura. Ken Yukimura being the only
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responsible, reputable instructor at this school.
Bless yes and so we our our scene 1 post cold open is in the
present and he's at school because that's where he lives
and he has like closed a book ona family flies as void has shown
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up all creepy and delightful, asking where Noshko is hiding
her her daggers because he knowsthat the daggers are like the
physical embodiment of her kitchen a tales.
And I I feel we need to acknowledge in this moment the
the introduction of cat styles for the Teen Wolf fandom.
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Sure, yes. As he as like Void walks in and
starts like very politely like bapping books off the shelf.
Yes. Like you gonna fight me, man?
Just pulling stuff off. Just like whatever, like like
just bapping stuff off the off the shelf, like oh.
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Did you need that dupe dupe? Such a cat, such a cat moment.
And this follows, of course, offof like, you know, cat Kurt as
coming coming from Glee. This is very, this is very cat
behavior. And I just, I really love this
moment for the fandom. This is a This is core fandom
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delight. Here A.
Core fandom memory. Yeah, and I, you know, I love
Ken being just pure. It's not sass.
It's just like adult. I can't even think of the right
word of, of he's confident, but he, you know, I'm sure he's
scared because he's one of. What's going on?
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He knows what's going on. He's one of the few humans left
in this entire town, apparently,and he's not going to out his
wife. He's not going to.
He's not going to say anything, no.
And Styles is like, well, Void is the predator, Mr. Yukimura is
the prey. And they both know it.
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They both know that Void has theupper hand here.
And Styles, like forces Mr. Yukimura to swallow that fly.
And he's like, you'll talk. They always talk as he's like
choking on this fly. So this is an image and a
technique that's going to come back over the next few episodes.
So it's really important to knowthat Void, for whatever reason,
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is able to use flies. Now, whether or not they're
fireflies like they have been over the last season or so is
kind of irrelevant, but this is a thing.
So Ken tried to kill the fly because he knows.
And if Envoy lifts up the book and the fly immediately does
what he asks too. So Yep, cause flies are gross
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and Void is gross. I don't know.
But yeah, it's got, it's got little powers there for flies.
So we also have Kira and Scott, I think in her room, right?
I forget looking at a picture, an old Polaroid, an old photo of
a young woman who looks exactly like Kira because it's played by
the same actress, 'cause. It's art and.
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Show 'cause it's art and show which is delightful.
Oh yeah. And she's like, oh, I think
that's my grandmother and the photos from 1943.
And, you know, they found this photo and the old Cortana in the
wall behind Eiken House. And they're like, oh, everything
ties back to my family. So they head back to the school
to find her mom helping Ken. And I think there might have
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been like a miss scene because she's like, oh, did you bring
what I asked for? And Kira has brought Reishi like
a mushroom to help Ken breathe. So they got a little, a little
magic, maybe help helping here, but all good.
Ken's fine, and Noshko reveals that she has that last dagger on
her for safekeeping, so Lloyd wasn't going to find it anyway.
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They're, they're keeping shit together, but Scott shows the
photo to Noshko and they're like, Oh no, that's not the
grandmother, that's me. Dun Dun.
Oh, no. So we're going to discuss this
episode now from all flashback first, all 1943, and then switch
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over to the present. The episode goes back and forth,
back and forth, back and forth. And we just can't.
We just can't do that because it's going to be chaotic.
I mean, the episodes chaotic anyway, but we're going to try
and stick to 1943 and then go tothe present and then, yeah.
So, you know, we're in the classroom and they they start
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setting up what we're about to see in this episode because it's
time to learn about nosh close back story.
And we learn that Kira's mom is actually 900 years old.
And Kira looks at her dad and goes and you and he goes, I'm
43. Thank you, Ken, thank you.
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And so they're kind of going back and forth and we learned
that Ken does not trust the Argents.
Ken doesn't trust Allison. It's like, well, we know what
kind of family she comes from. And I just, I love Ken being
like tapped in enough to the supernatural community that he
like knows what's going on. Love this for him.
But the entire reason we have toset this up is the kind of the
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mic drop moment that we get fromNoshiko before we go into 1943.
And she goes, Isn't it obvious? He came from me, the Negesany
came from me, and we're all likehe What now?
Say what? Excuse me?
Oops, hard cut. Oops, mom.
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Hard cut to 1943. Yeah, What would you do there,
Mom? Whoopsies.
Kipasa yes, so we've got. So now we're in 1943 and there
are prisoners and it's kind of an, it's like a sepia, but a bit
of a sepia to make sure that youknow where we are.
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The prisoners are sharing some, like stolen apples that they've
taken from the supply truck. Because Noshko is kind of.
I'm not gonna count her. Fence, but that's kind of what
she's doing. No, she gets, she gets some
apples, she gets some aspirin, she gets a little, this little
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that you know, like. It's a little baseball.
It gets a little, you know. Well, this little that you know,
good for her, 'cause why not? But so she's talking to an older
woman named Satomi, and we will talk to Satomi later, right?
In Season 4 too, right? Yeah.
And so Noshko has stolen aspirinfor Satomi because she has
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migraines. And Satomi is like, no, thank
you, I'm good. I am a rule follower, and Noshko
does not. And Satomi has this little
parable about you know, an older, wiser animal knows when
the exception to the break the rules.
A young fox always knows the rules so she can break them.
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The older, wiser animal learns the exceptions to the rules.
Yes, Yep. Which, yeah, OK.
Yeah, I'll take it, I'll take it.
But then something comes flying through the glass window and the
MPs are on their way. Never trust.
Never trust a small child with abaseball.
No, not with box windows. Nope.
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And everyone has to hide all their contraband and you know
they're they're going on about all the stolen apples.
One of them decides to grope oneof the women because they're
gross and one of them has eyes for Noshko.
Yeah, because she's adorable. She is adorable and you know, he
does a little like I remember, but he leaves the baseball for
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the kid. Yeah, he's like, we're going to
come back first thing tomorrow. And his, like, colleagues are
like, what? No, why don't we just do it now?
And he's like, we'll come back first thing in the morning and
there won't be anything here that isn't supposed to be here.
Turns out maybe there's an MP with a conscience.
Yep, yes there is. Well, it turns out that the
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reason he has a conscience. We find out the next kind of the
next day as Noshiko is waiting in the in the in the little
alley next to the car bays, 'cause it turns out that Noshiko
and the Nice MP are together. Yes, they are.
Smooching. Yes, they're having a little
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clandestine relationship going on here in The Cave and they're
real cute because she's like, and his name is Corporal Reese
and she's like, why do I like you when you're acting tough?
Which is adorable. Now is.
This adorable, that's why this utterly.
Problematic. Yeah, A. 100% in every possible
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way for sure. And also they're real cute.
They're real. Cute.
And she's like, I like my handsome medic.
And like, yeah, he's pretty cute.
He is. He's pretty cute.
He's pretty cute. He wants her to be more careful
about taking the medical supplies and he like quotes
Japanese proverbs to her in Japanese 'cause he's learning
like what a cutie. What a cutie.
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And he's brought her chocolate. So sweet.
Yeah, it's adorable. So we get a scene of them, like
hanging out in a military vehicle, Titanic style, you
know, have a little, a little make out sesh in a in a military
vehicle, getting a little time together.
She's teaching him French because he's gonna be relocated
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to North Africa. So they're having like a cute
little, a little clandestine moment.
Like the whole thing is clandestine because he's part of
the whole, you know, keeping theprisoner so bad.
But he's a whole, you know, prisoner.
And she is a whole prisoner, Yes, but they hear a sound, and
down the way they catch AmericanHaze, the two dudes from the
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cold open, making a little deal with the camp doctor.
Oh no, what's happening here? It's almost like they're even
worse. Indeed.
And, you know, so we get, you know, little, little forward a
minute. Pneumonia is seeping through the
camp, which obviously you know, you shove a bunch of people into
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small spaces. It's a communicable disease.
It you know, that's, that's one of the things that happens.
If somebody gets sick, then a lot of other people get sick.
And they are out of the specificmedicine they need to treat
this. I didn't write it down.
It didn't matter, I think, but. Pneumonia is a bacterial
infection, so it might be antibiotics like a specific kind
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of antibiotic. They.
Said it in the show and I was like, I'm not typing that down.
I didn't write it down, sorry. It's like I'm not typing that
and it would have been what theyused in 1943 like.
Yeah. But Noshiko saw those boxes on
the truck and she's like, no, there should be more.
Yeah, they were here. They were there.
Yeah, like we had some and it turns out American Haze have
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been selling, have been using, helping the doctor sell the meds
on the black market for money. Yeah, and like, modern day
Noshiko is so sad and she recounts all of this.
She's just like, she's literallyin tears because we're finding
that, you know, in the opening scene, we had like, you know, an
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entire bunk room full of people.And now like half of those
people are in hospital beds trying to die of pneumonia,
including the little kid with the baseball.
I. Know.
I will say I wanted to be sadderabout that but the dads acting
made it very difficult. Yeah.
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That was that was rough. That was rough.
But you know what? I get it, but it was a little
rough. You know, not everything could
be perfect. Not everything could be perfect.
He was a grieving father, I understand.
But he has passed and everyone'sgetting increasingly angry,
especially the dad. He's like, they murdered my son.
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I don't know what to do. Like, I'm going to kill them
all. Yeah.
And Satomi is in her little, in her little box, in her little
corner, and she's playing Go. She's playing this, like,
Japanese board game with little tiles because she is desperately
trying to calm down. She's trying to stay.
She's trying to stay calm. Turns out angry Dad manifests
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himself a Molotov cocktail. This.
Show loves Molotov cocktails. Indeed, we really appreciate a
bottle that sets itself on fire.Like, Yikes.
Yeah, yeah, there's, there is a riot, a Bruin and they want that
doctor. Because the doctor ends up
showing up in a car with American haze.
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Trying to get the fuck out. Trying to get the fuck out and
the pretty much every Japanese American prisoner in the camp
surrounds the vehicle trying to get to these three people who
have been stealing and selling their medication while their
people are dying. So, you know, tensions are
tensions are rising, fire is present.
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And Nochko's love, Reese is desperately trying to protect
the Japanese Americans because soldiers are like, trying to
shoot at them. And he is desperately trying to
get them to stand down because he knows what's going on.
He and Nochkovic figured it out.And Reese will not let he's like
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trying so hard to keep it all under wraps.
He's like trying to help everybody resolve tensions.
Yeah, 'cause you know, one good man.
I mean, he can't, you can't really call him a good man if he
is in fact working at this camp.But he's, you know.
The best that we've got. He's the best that we've got.
Of the available choices, he's the best we've got.
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Except somebody in the crowd hits Satomi.
And Satomi has been trying her absolute best to stay calm and
centered this whole time, and this just really pushes her over
the edge. Yeah, 'cause she is not a human,
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she is a bitten werewolf. Has her eyes go, and they are
the bright yellow eyes that we have seen in our beloveds
before. Somehow she has managed to keep
her shit together in this camp, but no longer.
No longer. And she takes one of those
Molotov cocktails and she throwsit at at.
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Reese Pretty much, yeah. Who Probably not specific like
it just it hits him and he goes up in flame as if he is covered
in gasoline. I really appreciate that it
just, it hits him immediately, engulfs him in flames and
doesn't set anything else on fire.
Nothing else, nothing else. It is very specifically just on
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Reese. He's the only one.
The only one. Yeah, so guns are blazing.
The officers are firing at the prisoners.
Noshko gets hit just a bunch of times.
It looks like she's dead. Reese gets taken to Eiken House.
Well, apparently they're connected like Eiken house
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apparently. Is part of this complex?
Is. Part of this compound, yeah.
Which wasn't clear at first. It was like how does not?
How did this happen? Like that was not at all clear
until like after the fact. But in in the voice over from
present day Noshko, she's like and his screams echoed.
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Get it echoed. Yeah.
Which is which is odd cause Eiken is already its name.
Do you mean to tell me that the echoes of screams that we hear
in Eiken housewares just still Reese?
I think so. He's just howling because he he
dies from his burns because the doctors also sold the morphine.
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Yeah. What an ass.
He was gonna die from those anyway, but he didn't have to
die like that. But he.
Didn't have to go like that, yeah.
So yeah. Don't you think it would have
been very not Not cool, but an an interesting scene to actually
see them wrapping him in the gauze because you never see them
wrap him in the gauze. No.
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And the gauze is so fundamental to his.
Character designs indeed, because you have to know the
reason that he's wrapped in gauze.
It has third degree burns. All his entire, at least his
torso up. I mean, he was covered head to
toe. Like I think they just left his
pants on because standards and practices, Yeah, like those they
would have cut his pants off to get to him.
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Like he shouldn't be wearing those pants, but whatever.
And that's not really how we treat burns anymore anyway.
Anyway. And like they cut him a mouth
hole. They did.
They cut him a mouth hole to breathe I guess.
I guess, yeah, Anyway, so, but Iwould have liked to have seen
them wrapping him so that you really get this like, oh, you
know. 'Cause like I as a as a grown,
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as a grown up who has gotten burns before, like we just don't
really treat burns like that anymore.
I. Understand.
I can. I can put it together that he is
burned and you have to wrap things that are injured in
gauze. But I would have loved like a
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little bitty like Cap, just likeseeing them like wrapping his
fingers. Yeah.
You know, something to kind of link it together for people who
may not be able to immediately put one and two together.
Yeah, totally. And it could have just looked
cool it. Would have been terrifying, but.
Importantly so anyway, so then we we see Merrick and Hayes
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getting the job of of getting rid of the bodies and doing the
cover up because they, the government can't have this
incident at the camp. Right.
Not that I, you know, knowing how much we, we get away with as
the United States, like, I don'tknow that people would have
cared. Like we, no one cared that we
were rounding up Japanese citizens in the 1st place.
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I don't know that anyway. So Noshko, because people think
she's dead, gets thrown into thetruck as well and happens to be
next to Reese's body. Yeah, in in the first time I
cried in this episode. By chance, I guess Reese's body
had been put next to mine. Ouch.
Chance or like magical intervention?
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Ouch. And so as Noshko, she's still a
kiss and I so she's starting to heal very, very slowly, but
she's starting to heal. And so out of her rage and her
grief, she sends up basically a prayer to the, you know, to the
ancestors, to the, to the, to the kits and a gods and asks for
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a no Gitsune. She asks for a dark spirit of
revenge to to inherit her body, to to take her over and seek the
and seek the revenge that they are owed.
Yep. And and she gets it but it but
it missed. Well, they're tricksters.
They are tricksters. It's a trick.
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Spirit. Yeah, it it showed up, but it it
didn't do exactly what she asked.
It did what it wanted, and that was to possess Reese for the
lulls. Because it has.
It's a millennial. It's a millennial.
It has a very dark sense of humor.
You sure did. So hi.
Reese Reese is back, baby. And he, you know, he took his
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iconic, I don't know, it's iconic, but he took the guy's
jacket because it was embarrassed by its burns.
I don't know. And and drove off.
It doesn't have any eyes, but itdrove off.
He's just. Yeah, he's just hanging out.
It's cool. And it has some revenge to an
act. Yeah, it does.
He got to RIP off the head of his, you know, betrayers.
(34:45):
And then it sorts out that he brought chaos and pain to Oak
Creek and Aiken. Yeah.
Ouch. Hey, I mean, man's got to do
what in A Gitson A's got to do and everyone is fucking dead.
Everybody's fucking dead. Ouch, Ouch, Ouch, kabibbles.
And so we get, you know, everyone's bleeding and dying
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and everything's terrible, but we finally see Noshko and the
Reese Gitson a in in an alley, kind of in a, in a little
corridor, like the ones that they used to meet up in to
smooch in the dark. And turns out that she made
herself a a little wolfy friend.And so Satomi and Noshiko team
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up to to to finally murder the Rhys Gibson A Satomi gets him
with claws in the back and Noshiko gets him with a sword in
the front. Ouch.
Ouchies. And it it seems it does
something well, it shatters the Cortana.
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It shatters the Cortana and thenit like there's like a bug that
kind of flies out of his mouth and Noshiko catches the fly, the
bug, that little Firefly, that little, that little bug that
flies out of his mouth. And he falls to the ground.
And in my second tears of this episode.
He whispers Ku, my French pronunciation was always
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terrible. Ku, the food love at first,
which directly translates to bolt of lightning, which
colloquial means love at first sight, which is what they were
like whispering to each other back in their little Jeep make
out session. It was the French that that she
was teaching to him. And it's something that Noshko
in present day teaches to Scott and Kira.
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And so I'm crying because, you know, Kupta Fusala is sweet and
beautiful and adorable. And then it we get we get Reese
back for like a hot 2nd. It's what he tells to Noshko
before he dies for real. Yes, he's his real mind is back.
And I cried and I hurt and I hate this.
And then she, Noshko has to has to run.
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She's gotta go. She's gotta go.
She's got the fly in a jar and she takes off running and
arrives. At this big ass tree at.
The Nematon. Look at this big ass healthy
tree. It's so healthy, fully grown, so
many branches and. Leaves.
It's so. Pretty, and that that's where we
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end on our flashback sesh, is she has arrived at the fully
grown, beautiful Nematon. Indeed.
Good for her, I guess. Well, well, kind of.
Tried. She tried.
I killed the I killed the Nick incident.
No, you did not. You did not.
You killed your you killed your boyfriend who was already dead,
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and then you trapped a bug but only stuck it away.
You didn't get the chance to murder it, you just shit it.
She tried real hard. She did try real hard, but it
didn't. Didn't quite work.
Didn't quite work, no. So now we have to go back to the
present day where, you know, allof our friends are still making
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choices. Yes, they are.
So during the story, Kira is like mad at her mother for not
telling her, well, one that she's 900 years old and for not
telling them about the origin ofthe Nigetzine for this whole
time. And part of that reason that I
mean, valid, that's that's a righteous anger.
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And part of the reason Noshiko didn't tell them is this whole
wolves and foxes tend not to getalong thing because Kira's kind
of aligned herself with the HailMcCall pack.
So she's kind of been withholding information because
of the werewolves. But Ken is like, I think it's
time for allies because Ken is the best.
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Because Ken is the best. And he's not he's They have this
whole thing about mistakes beingrepeated, history being
repeated. If you don't remember the past,
I think it's time to let the pack in.
Even though he's right to not trust the urgents.
He does not trust the urgents, which is legitimate.
That's valid, that's valid. Speaking of not trusting the
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urgents, we get a one-on-one with Deputy Parrish, who doesn't
trust a bitch. No, Deputy Parish does not trust
these kids at all. We are over at the the sheriff's
station because it's time for Chris and Derek to finally get
checked out of jail. Parish does not want to let
Chris take his cattle prod home.Because it's like, I don't know,
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Army grade. Oh yeah.
Weaponry and Chris is like I only use it for hunting and
Derek's face look. That Derek gives Chris Christ
alive. I love it.
It was so good. Like so much of this episode is
so serious but the two of them are like a comedy duo
accidentally. It's incredible.
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It's truly incredible. I love, I love it so much.
But the sheriff, you know, sensing that there's trouble in
paradise, doodles perish away and it's like, I got this, I'll
take care of it. It's fine.
It's just like this is like a light Saber.
It really is. Looks like one.
Yeah. So he's.
Yeah. He shows Chris and Derek the
brain scans, his wife and Styleshis brain scans because he's
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like, listen, I've been thinkingabout this.
And I was like, these are so similar.
They're too similar. And it turns out they are
exactly the same. Dun Dun.
Because Void was fucking with them.
Boy, it's fucking with you. And he's got this thing about,
like, you know, if you're tryingto really cut down your enemies,
like, what do you do? You take away their hope.
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And this is how you could take away, like, Styles is hope.
Yeah. Because Styles might give up
hope. And then it cuts to.
Derek, I do not do not perceive me like that's how the.
Scene goes is Stiles might give up hope, cut to Derek.
Like, 'cause it, it's basically Chris and the sheriff who are
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having this back and forth and Derek just like hanging out
listening. And Chris goes, you don't look
like a man who gives up hope easily.
And then the sheriff goes, but Stiles might.
And then we flash to Derek and then we flashback like to Chris,
like why? Why 'cause I'm hungry, I'm
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desperate. I'm I, I'm looking at crumbs.
Why? Cause reasons.
And my note here is dad versus dad and husband.
And husband and you know, the sheriff's like I need both of
you to help me stop him and not kill him, but stop him.
Stop. Him.
Trap him. Yeah, trap him and he gives
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Chris the cap brought back, which is like don't, don't let
him have that. So the team gathers at the
Argents and everyone's trying tofigure out where Styles is and
the amount of significant looks between Derek and the sheriff.
I am truly unwell. Yeah, and I so I like that
they've gathered up non lethal stuff to make a plan to find
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styles, but like there's not that much stuff.
No. 'Cause they don't really have
non lethal equipment. Yeah.
And so it's Sheriff and Chris and Derek and Allison and
Derek's the one who's like didn't didn't we already do
this? Like, and it didn't work like
we've tried and it sucked. We're trying to outfox the fox.
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Like what are we going to do here?
And you know, has I'm not going to be the first wolf to run from
a fox because we've got this whole theme of like foxes
versus. Wolves.
Thus born an entire section of fanfic Teen Wolf fanfic.
We do love fox styles. We do, and Derek does catch
Chris loading up on lethal guns because Chris always has a
backup plan. And I mean to be fair, he always
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needs a backup plan. So always does, because nothing
goes right the first time ever. They split up, right?
Yes, it's going to be Sheriff and Allison and then Chris and
Derek because they are a pair now.
That's fair, that's valid. That is fair and and over in the
school we have a little scene ofNoshiko cutting her hand on the
Cortana Shard because she wants Kira to use her powers to put
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the Cortana back together. SAP.
And she cuts her hand, but the wound is like, gone.
And she explains to Kira that like, listen, you're not going
to get sick. We can heal.
I'm 900 years old. How do you think this happens?
Which really probably just adds to Kira's annoyance.
Like, why didn't you fucking tell me?
You. Could have told me.
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You could have told me at any point in the last.
At any point you could have toldme.
Yeah, like I'm 1617 years old. Like, why didn't you've never
explained that I haven't gotten a cold or a scraped knee?
Like the fuck? So yeah.
So Allison and Scott or Allison and Sheriff are off.
And you know, sheriff's like, listen, I don't, I don't know
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how you kids fucking do this. Like, I'm already tired.
And Allison admits she's failingecon, but then she starts to
cry, which is valid. That's so fucking valid of her.
Allie A needs a trusted fucking adult.
None of them cry enough. They don't, they don't cry, they
don't express like grief. These these kids have had one
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after another after another likeI like.
So the sheriff, knowing that this girl needs a trusted adult,
turns off the elevator that they're in and just gives her a
hug. And she just like proceeds to
politely like collapse. And it is my stern belief that
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all of these kids need as many trusted adults as possible.
They just they all need at leastfour more trusted adults
absolutely like about it. They need a couple days where
they're just like in bed, drinking hot cocoa and crying
because. They really needed a beach
episode. Yeah.
They really needed like a fair episode like.
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Yeah, someone just a nice littlebreakdown to really get those
emotions out. They needed to go to a carnival
and Styles and Derek needed to get stuck on the Ferris wheel.
Yeah, with some like cotton candy.
And Allison and Scott need to get stuck in the in like the
little hall of mirrors. And yeah, yeah, it's they needed
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this. They did.
They really do. So Sheriff being a trusted
adult. So I was like, that's Coach's
class, let me talk to him for you.
It's like, oh, OK, Dad. Thanks, Dad.
Yep. Yeah.
And he's probably happy to like,comfort someone while his son is
gone. Yeah, 'cause he's definitely,
(45:40):
like, alone in this, 'cause he doesn't.
Styles is it? That's all the family he's got
left. And so the sheriff has not also
been able to process any of these feelings, but he's about
to get a few more feelings because his phone goes off.
And it turns out that after Styles had been sleepwalking
again, the sheriff basically like surveilled this house
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cameras and motor detectors justtrying to keep a hold of things.
Turns out Void is just hanging out in Styles bedroom and like
politely waving at the camera like a cute little cat fox.
Like hello. Hey, just waving.
Just. Hanging out?
How you doing asshole? Piece of shit, but he's cute.
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He's so cute. Yeah, so they show up at Styles
Bedroom. He's not there, obviously.
He just wanted to draw them there.
And they gather around the infamous chess board.
The infamous chess board. Yes, and, and and and.
Out of my first born son's mouthcomes the words.
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Is there any reason why my name's on the King?
Yeah, baby. Eric, because I'll give you 3
guesses as to why your name's onthe King.
Yeah. I'll give you 3 guesses.
And king of my heart. And the pieces have changed
because he was not the king before he was a he was a knight
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or a Bishop, I forget which one.But he is now the king.
Not only is he the king, but he's not horribly far from
checkmate. Now he's one move from
checkmate. Which is correct?
I realize that your your hatred and rage may have blinded you
from this. Did you see who's on the chess
board? I OK, so I was not watching this
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episode alone and I did not havethe chance to pause because I
couldn't. I couldn't rightfully be like
give me 5 minutes to stare at this chess board.
So I I did not have the opportunity to pause, rewind,
pause, rewind like I wanted to. So no I didn't.
I didn't get the chance to stareat the chess board.
Derek's ex-girlfriend Katie A ison that chess board, baby.
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God damn it. That's right, Kate is on the
chess board and I noticed that for the first time this time and
I was like, that's why he's in trackmate cause Kate's on the
chess board. Like I, I got you.
I understand. I see what?
I see what's happening. Like OK.
I'm really upset. I'm really upset.
Terrible. But again, we have a lot of like
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really intense looks of Derek being in Styles's places and
I've just, I have do not perceive me.
I can't. I can't.
There's there's no need for this.
It's fun though, I like it. It's so much fun.
So yeah, this is. And then, of course, they're
like, so he's at the loft and the sheriff is the one who's
like, hold on, the trickster. He wants irony.
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He wants a joke. He wants, like, before we rush
in, let's let's hold on a secondbecause they need they need to
make a new punchline for this guy.
Yeah. And he's he's not wrong.
So tell me, can someone explain to me in small words why is void
at the loft other than to fuck with me?
I Yeah, well, because Derek is his king.
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Other than to fuck with me, Emily, is there a real reason
he's at the loft? Because it's the other set they
have done. That's probably it.
Fuck yeah. So Void just, like, decides to
go to the loft because, you know, reasons.
And Kira has now officially inherited her mother's sword
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because Kira is able to use her cool new Thunder Kitsune powers
that her mom politely informs her of.
And she zaps the sword back together and Noshko basically
hands it to her and says like, you know what must be done?
It's like you have to kill. Ben gets an A rut row.
Time to go, baby. So we are setting up for a
(49:48):
showdown at the loft because theteam Hunter appears at the Loft
and voids. Just.
Hanging out in loft in the big windows where he's been many,
many times before. Like he feels safe here or
something. Like someone's going to protect
him here or something. Or the Ningitsane knows that
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Styles wants to be here and is messing with him by tea.
I've read that pic, it hurts real bad.
Oh God those pics hurt so bad When the ningitsane uses Derek
to mess with Styles. Yep.
Hurts so good. And so we end the episode on a
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polite little intimate showdown between Styles and the sheriff,
and Void just looks up and goes hi dad.
Hi, Dad. Yikes Yikes.
It's so hurtful. I do like that it's the sheriff
is the one who walks in. For sure.
Yeah, I I like that. Yeah, trying.
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'Cause I. Yeah, Ouch.
This is a very plotty episode. Yeah, we actually like things
have progressed and I really appreciate that.
And the chess board. This this episode was just a
birthplace of fandom things for this this era of Teen Wolf,
especially of Steric. You know, there's cat cat
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behavior, Styles slash void, allof the big themes of like the
foxes and the wolves. Because Styles is in fact a fox
and Scott and Derek are all wolves.
We're looking at the chess board.
The chess board, the. Chess board.
The chess board. Chess is styles game,
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apparently. Yeah, he we've never seen him
actually play chess, but he usedthe chess board to explain
supernatural to his dad, so we at least know that this is his.
So the chess board is Styles game.
It's not that it gets in his game, but yeah.
Tell me why my name's on the King.
Yeah, Derek, tell me. Tell me why your name is on the
king. This the the number of King and
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Lionheart gifts and edits this spawned was unbelievable.
The deluge. The utter deluge.
Incredible. And then of course, we'll get
this episode and next episode, Ithink, as we start kind of
spawning off of what what does the Nagitsa name know and what
are people hiding? And it's super interesting.
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So yeah. Yeah, I like this episode.
Oh yeah, it's a good episode. It it it's a lot, but it's
really. Good.
It's a lot. Yeah.
I like it. I mean it.
Yeah, I know. It's very easy to be distracted
by the Derek is the King. Oh yeah, super easy to be
distracted. Which is such like a small piece
and you're like, OK, and. And what's what?
(52:46):
What else? What else is here?
And yeah, but so much of this isabout, like, the origin of the
monster. It's good.
I I really like it. I mean, I would like to know
more about why Derek is the king, other than which, you
know, the king is not the important chess bees.
The Queen is. Who's on the Queen?
Oh, man, I'd have to go. Let's say wolf chess board, the
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chess board, black king, blah blah blah.
White Rook. What?
I don't see a queen. Someone listed out.
I don't know that there's a queen.
Pawns can become Queens. I don't see any Queens on the
board. So yeah.
But Kate is a pawn. A white pawn.
I mean, of course she's a pawn. I'm just, I'm so I'm I'm so
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curious. I'm so curious.
I know. But blue.
No, I mean what? Yeah.
So I'm I will be open minded probably.
I mean, maybe, but to what end? I know.
But no, this episode is so much fun.
A lot of really big, powerful, scary emotions and history and
back story and it's fascinating and I love getting to see art
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and show just do more things. No, that was so nice to give her
like a whole other thing to do, yeah.
She she was the most of this episode and I love that for her.
Yeah, me too. It's great.
And playing like somebody else. Yeah, that's what it was like.
Super fun and you know, like. I mean, I don't know, I don't
know what Daniel Sherman was doing, but like, I hope Isaac's
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OK. Where's Lydia?
The hell is Lydia? Yeah, yeah.
I don't know what they were doing, but I hope they're OK.
Hope. Everyone's fine.
Yeah, but yeah, some, you know, the roller coaster is at the
about the top here. Yeah, we're, we're climbing.
We're climbing the roller coaster.
I think we're gonna hit the peakof the roller coaster next
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episode, but like. Yeah, we are.
We're we're doing the thing here.
So. We're very swiftly doing the
thing. Yeah, I'm excited.
Yeah, we, we. All right, so I guess we will
see you next week. I, you know, you can find us on
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You're listening to Pack Dynamics, a Fandom on the Rocks
podcast. Hello, welcome to Pack Dynamics
18 Wolf podcast. I am Emily.
And I'm Allison. And this is Season 3, episode
21, The Fox and the Wolf. Yeah, Buddy A Woo just diving
right into the summary. While Allison, Derek, Chris and
(00:34):
Sheriff Stilinski try to track down a Nagitzine, Kira's mother
tells the story of the Nagitzineshe came to know.
Meanwhile, the Nagitzine, how many times we say that in one
sentence, has taken complete control of styles and manages to
stay one step ahead. This episode aired March 3rd,
2014. I'd like to.
State where there was hurt that this episode hurts my heart.
(00:58):
It's not. It's not fun.
It's not fun. This is not a fun episode.
No. Very important, very good, but
like. Much plot.
Do you ever There's a whole thing on the Internet about how
you can tell someone's a millennial by the way they talk.
Oh my God. And it's just like, much plot.
(01:18):
Wow. I was like, yeah, OK, so I'm
old. Dude much plot.
Wow. And the fact that I end
sentences in real life out loud with lol.
Oh, I know. I.
Just I I am a millennial. I know this.
It's fine. Yeah, I'm.
Old I don't. I'm not gonna change my slang
for you. No, it's not.
Are you gonna take me seriously if I say the word Skibbity
(01:38):
Toilet? No, even though I mean it.
Even though I mean it. You're not.
Think that's funny there. I don't know what it means.
I have a podcast in my queue that's like an explainer on
Skimpity Toilet and half of me is like I don't even wanna
listen to it, I don't care. Like.
I don't even care enough to understand what it means.
I like to say hella, hella. Oh my God, I love the word
(01:59):
hella. Like the kids today, they're
using Ohio, I think, as part of their slang.
And I think it's some, I don't know what, what it means.
It's not good. Nothing good ever comes from
Ohio, except I guess, Glee. Hey, wrong, wrong.
Wrong. Still.
Still adequate at best. Friends.
A couple of friends, yeah. Our friends like we have lovely
(02:23):
people who come from Ohio, but as a as a concept, I understand
that Norwegians don't use Ohio, they use Texas as slang for
something that is totally crazy and out of control.
It's much more accurate. Yeah.
I mean, Florida, come on. It's right.
There, they're like, oh man, that party was totally Texas to
(02:43):
mean that. It was like banana nut muffin
out of control, Chaotic. See, that's what I say is
something was banana nut. Yeah.
No, that's, that's, that's I think.
Did you get that from me or did I get that from you?
I have no idea anymore, I probably got it from you.
Probably. Yeah, I don't know anymore, but
I probably got it from you. Yeah, this is kids, by the way.
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This is how you know that you have found that like those
things that you take from other people who you love, who like
live in your lives is you'll pick up affectations from them.
Yep. So even if Emily and I were to
break up like tomorrow, she'd still take banana nut away and
and I would live with her forever as her chili recipe
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lives with me. Yes.
I made chili last week and it was freaking delicious, by the
way. Delicious.
I leave a trail of people sayingboth.
That's what I do. Not me, but I'm sure there are
others. There are indeed, but that's not
what happens in this episode. No, in today's episode, we're
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going to do something that we should have learned about in a
history class in high school, but we do not.
Oh, we do. We don't.
Yeah, internment cans for the Japanese.
Real thing, a real thing that wedid.
Yeah. Real.
A real thing that we did in the United States.
We sure did. We, we sure did.
If your school did not teach youabout Japanese internment camps
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during World War 2 and beyond, Google it.
It sucks. It happened.
I think people on the West Coast, schools on the West Coast
do a little more teaching on it because that's where we did it.
These are our this. This is our sin to bear.
Well, it's the whole country's, but specifically us.
We did this. Yeah, it was terrible.
And this Teen Wolf episode does not does not really show how
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awful it was. No.
These are, they call them internment camps.
They're, I don't know if you want to say they're a step below
concentration camps, but yeah, they're prisoners.
They're prisoners. They're not, They're not
anything less than prisoners. It's a prisoner of war camp.
They politely get called relocation camps, but yeah,
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they're prisoners of war. They're held because they are
considered enemies of the state,because they are simply Japanese
citizens during World War 2 and God forbid they lived their
lives. Yeah, I believe it's George
Takei who wrote on this. Yeah.
Yes, there's a musical called Ohman, I can see the the Playbill
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in my head and Elias Salongo wasin it.
Oh, man, what was it called? Allegiance.
There was a a musical about thisthat George Takei wrote based on
his personal experiences. Yeah.
And I think. It's real living history.
Yes. He this is this is real.
Yeah, this is real. Not the Japanese demons,
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necessarily. No, I mean, I guess it hasn't
been proven. False.
You know what? There's enough stuff happening
in the in the world. I don't.
There's a lot of stuff happeningthat I don't understand, so I'm
not gonna say that anything really isn't real.
Sure. OK, Except for people being able
to control hurricanes 'cause we don't know how to do that.
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No, we. Don't yet we we don't know how
to do that. That's not happening, guys.
No, we don't. I mean, if we did, we would just
like dissipate them. Yeah, that'd be super.
Obviously. Bring a little bit of water to
deserted OK travel how to drink ravaged areas and bring a little
a little sun to places that havetoo much water and.
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The government control hurricanes.
We would simply be watering our crops.
What are we doing here anyway? So all this to say is that this
is going to be a really heavy episode if you don't know much
about Japanese internment camps in the United States during
World War 2. It is fascinating and terrible
and like, look into it. It's it's, it's, it's
interesting and important history, even though it is
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horrendous. There are places I think like in
California and I think Washington left that you can do
like guided tours of the the remaining sites, which you know,
bummer, but interesting. And important.
Yeah, it's very important we. Need to learn about our history
so that we don't repeat its mistakes.
Yes, theme of the episode. Theme of the episode.
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So this episode of Teen Wolf hastwo separate storylines
happening, the search for Void and the origin story of the
Nuggets an AI guess this Nuggetsan A.
This particular Nuggets an A this.
Particular 1. So we are gonna make an attempt
to talk about them in a way thatmakes sense, and if it doesn't,
(07:28):
so sorry. So the.
Mode also doesn't make a ton of sense.
It's definitely one that you have to watch a couple of times.
Don't worry about it. Don't worry.
About it so we open the cold open starts in 1943 all of the
flashbacks are in kind of a veryshort period of time in 1943 at
the Oak Creek internment camp inNorthern California.
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Oak Creek is not a real concentration camp or internment
camp, but it is real to the TeenWolf universe.
So we open in 1943. We've got this like army truck
and two soldiers unloading bodies while telling each other
or telling riddles while throwing bodies into a a a burn
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pit. One guy is telling riddles and
trying to get his like comrade to to laugh and the guy's like
that's not funny. None of this is funny.
And he's correct. None of this is funny.
None of this is funny. They aren't named in the scene,
but this is Merrick and Hayes and these are two of our main
MPs who will remain soldiers that we'll see throughout the
the flashbacks. I do get annoyed when characters
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are introduced and not immediately named because I'm
trying to take notes. Exactly.
Give me your names even if. It's Justin.
Like the subtitles like Give Me Your Name?
Yeah, give me. I love when subtitles have
names. Yeah, it's pretty great.
My notes were just like, I'm like, oh, these are two guys
just, like having a nice time telling riddles.
Bodies. Look at all these corpses.
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And then they start to, like, pour gasoline on top of the
corpses and I'm like, they're gonna burn the corpses.
They sure are. A lot of time to be playing with
riddles, gentlemen. Yeah, yeah.
I mean, you know, soldiers have done truly awful things
throughout history, Indeed. And there is no excusing
anything. But I'm these are not the only
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two soldiers who have told jokesto cut through the awful, yeah,
tension of what they are forced to do in the name of of war.
But they are still awful people,so.
They make other choices, and throughout the course of this
episode that reaffirms that they're terrible people.
They do. So yeah, they're about to light
up this burn pit and there's a rapt body, our friend the
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nagisode standing in the grave. Hey, buddy.
Hey bud. And it is now very apparent that
the Nuggetsane is wearing army pants.
Yeah, if it wasn't before, it isnow incredibly obvious that he
is dressed at least on the waistdown the same way they are.
They try to shoot him, doesn't work, and he attacks them and
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has his own Riddle to come back with.
What has a neck but no head? And then he rips one of the guys
heads off so. And you know what?
For all of the chaos and strife and pain that the Nigetzine has
caused this season, I was on hisside here.
I was on his side. Yeah, I.
Was like, you are correct Mr. Nigetzine, fuck these guys up,
fuck them up. Yeah, fuck them up.
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They they had this one coming. They truly did.
Sometimes murder is OK. I don't know man.
You know what? In this in this particular
fictional instance, I'm I'm down.
Yeah, this one's fine. So that is the cold open that
is. This, this is how you do a cold
open. This, I love this.
This is such a solid cold open. It sets the tone, it tells us
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information, it helps us patch things together.
It stays with me. It's incredible.
Also apparently gave Benniganj anew name in all caps.
Riddle Murder. Bandage man.
Yes, I like it. Riddle Bird.
I can't say it. Riddle Murder.
Bandage man. I feel like that truly
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encompasses his whole character.Riddles, Murder.
Bandage man. Yeah, and like, weird bloody
mouth. Yeah, that's the Yeah.
Yeah. Real like the Nikitzine is
truly, as we like, look at, you know, villains throughout Teen
Wolf. The Nikitzine is really where it
starts getting like, spooky. Spooky.
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Spooky. Yeah, his costume design, while
it doesn't make much sense. Until you get all the pieces.
It's pretty sweet, like it's a good.
It's somebody really thought this out.
Yeah, I like it. And it is, especially as you get
all this back story attached. It's tragic, it's horrible is
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it's it's tragic. And like a Shakespearean, it's
always going to end this way. And, you know, and we'll talk
about it because we're gonna, we're gonna do it.
But. They.
We're going to talk about it. That's our merch.
We're going to talk about it. They do so much in so little
time. So Teen Wolf kind of, I don't
know why vomits was the word that pop into my head.
(12:16):
I think I meant like oscillates.I don't know, in their seasons
of stretching things out too long or powering through plot
lines, right? Like season 1, boom, here's our
plot right through it. And then sometimes you're just
like, OK, this is dragging like a little bit, what are we doing
here? But they pack a back story into,
(12:37):
I don't know, 20 minutes becausethere's the flashback and then
there's the present day. Yeah, there's half an episode
and they scream. They scream an entire back
story. And you end up kind of like
feeling for these two. Oh, yeah.
And you're like, OK, it doesn't.I mean, considering what the
back story is, you're like, oh, this is like a bad idea.
But you kind of feel for these guys, like they're great actors.
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There's some great lighting, like the music, like it all kind
of works together to be like, damn, this sucks.
And I don't even know these kids.
And then of course, you're looking at it kind of with the
the comparisons of Scott, and you're looking at Scott and
Allison, you're looking at Scottand Kira.
They're just two dumb young kidsin love, torn apart by the
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things in the world that they don't understand and can't
control. And yeah, we've all read, well,
a lot of us have read Romeo and Juliet.
We know what happens when you know anybody who's ever met a 16
year old and says no, you can't do that.
Like you know what the answer's going to be.
The fuck I can't. The fuck I can't.
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The rage, the grief, the power, the, the violence that can come
out of it. Do I agree with their decisions?
It doesn't matter if I agree with it.
I understand it. And I don't quite have, you
know, spooky demon powers. But if I did, I, I, you know, I
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get, I get why I get how I understand.
We're all a bit a bit wild. But Speaking of the only man in
Beacon Hills, A true unproblematic fave.
An Angel, An icon. A walking green flag.
Ken Yukimura. Ken Yukimura being the only
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responsible, reputable instructor at this school.
Bless yes and so we our our scene 1 post cold open is in the
present and he's at school because that's where he lives
and he has like closed a book ona family flies as void has shown
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up all creepy and delightful, asking where Noshko is hiding
her her daggers because he knowsthat the daggers are like the
physical embodiment of her kitchen a tales.
And I I feel we need to acknowledge in this moment the
the introduction of cat styles for the Teen Wolf fandom.
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Sure, yes. As he as like Void walks in and
starts like very politely like bapping books off the shelf.
Yes. Like you gonna fight me, man?
Just pulling stuff off. Just like whatever, like like
just bapping stuff off the off the shelf, like oh.
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Did you need that dupe dupe? Such a cat, such a cat moment.
And this follows, of course, offof like, you know, cat Kurt as
coming coming from Glee. This is very, this is very cat
behavior. And I just, I really love this
moment for the fandom. This is a This is core fandom
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delight. Here A.
Core fandom memory. Yeah, and I, you know, I love
Ken being just pure. It's not sass.
It's just like adult. I can't even think of the right
word of, of he's confident, but he, you know, I'm sure he's
scared because he's one of. What's going on?
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He knows what's going on. He's one of the few humans left
in this entire town, apparently,and he's not going to out his
wife. He's not going to.
He's not going to say anything, no.
And Styles is like, well, Void is the predator, Mr. Yukimura is
the prey. And they both know it.
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They both know that Void has theupper hand here.
And Styles, like forces Mr. Yukimura to swallow that fly.
And he's like, you'll talk. They always talk as he's like
choking on this fly. So this is an image and a
technique that's going to come back over the next few episodes.
So it's really important to knowthat Void, for whatever reason,
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is able to use flies. Now, whether or not they're
fireflies like they have been over the last season or so is
kind of irrelevant, but this is a thing.
So Ken tried to kill the fly because he knows.
And if Envoy lifts up the book and the fly immediately does
what he asks too. So Yep, cause flies are gross
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and Void is gross. I don't know.
But yeah, it's got, it's got little powers there for flies.
So we also have Kira and Scott, I think in her room, right?
I forget looking at a picture, an old Polaroid, an old photo of
a young woman who looks exactly like Kira because it's played by
the same actress, 'cause. It's art and.
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Show 'cause it's art and show which is delightful.
Oh yeah. And she's like, oh, I think
that's my grandmother and the photos from 1943.
And, you know, they found this photo and the old Cortana in the
wall behind Eiken House. And they're like, oh, everything
ties back to my family. So they head back to the school
to find her mom helping Ken. And I think there might have
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been like a miss scene because she's like, oh, did you bring
what I asked for? And Kira has brought Reishi like
a mushroom to help Ken breathe. So they got a little, a little
magic, maybe help helping here, but all good.
Ken's fine, and Noshko reveals that she has that last dagger on
her for safekeeping, so Lloyd wasn't going to find it anyway.
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They're, they're keeping shit together, but Scott shows the
photo to Noshko and they're like, Oh no, that's not the
grandmother, that's me. Dun Dun.
Oh, no. So we're going to discuss this
episode now from all flashback first, all 1943, and then switch
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over to the present. The episode goes back and forth,
back and forth, back and forth. And we just can't.
We just can't do that because it's going to be chaotic.
I mean, the episodes chaotic anyway, but we're going to try
and stick to 1943 and then go tothe present and then, yeah.
So, you know, we're in the classroom and they they start
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setting up what we're about to see in this episode because it's
time to learn about nosh close back story.
And we learn that Kira's mom is actually 900 years old.
And Kira looks at her dad and goes and you and he goes, I'm
43. Thank you, Ken, thank you.
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And so they're kind of going back and forth and we learned
that Ken does not trust the Argents.
Ken doesn't trust Allison. It's like, well, we know what
kind of family she comes from. And I just, I love Ken being
like tapped in enough to the supernatural community that he
like knows what's going on. Love this for him.
But the entire reason we have toset this up is the kind of the
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mic drop moment that we get fromNoshiko before we go into 1943.
And she goes, Isn't it obvious? He came from me, the Negesany
came from me, and we're all likehe What now?
Say what? Excuse me?
Oops, hard cut. Oops, mom.
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Hard cut to 1943. Yeah, What would you do there,
Mom? Whoopsies.
Kipasa yes, so we've got. So now we're in 1943 and there
are prisoners and it's kind of an, it's like a sepia, but a bit
of a sepia to make sure that youknow where we are.
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The prisoners are sharing some, like stolen apples that they've
taken from the supply truck. Because Noshko is kind of.
I'm not gonna count her. Fence, but that's kind of what
she's doing. No, she gets, she gets some
apples, she gets some aspirin, she gets a little, this little
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that you know, like. It's a little baseball.
It gets a little, you know. Well, this little that you know,
good for her, 'cause why not? But so she's talking to an older
woman named Satomi, and we will talk to Satomi later, right?
In Season 4 too, right? Yeah.
And so Noshko has stolen aspirinfor Satomi because she has
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migraines. And Satomi is like, no, thank
you, I'm good. I am a rule follower, and Noshko
does not. And Satomi has this little
parable about you know, an older, wiser animal knows when
the exception to the break the rules.
A young fox always knows the rules so she can break them.
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The older, wiser animal learns the exceptions to the rules.
Yes, Yep. Which, yeah, OK.
Yeah, I'll take it, I'll take it.
But then something comes flying through the glass window and the
MPs are on their way. Never trust.
Never trust a small child with abaseball.
No, not with box windows. Nope.
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And everyone has to hide all their contraband and you know
they're they're going on about all the stolen apples.
One of them decides to grope oneof the women because they're
gross and one of them has eyes for Noshko.
Yeah, because she's adorable. She is adorable and you know, he
does a little like I remember, but he leaves the baseball for
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the kid. Yeah, he's like, we're going to
come back first thing tomorrow. And his, like, colleagues are
like, what? No, why don't we just do it now?
And he's like, we'll come back first thing in the morning and
there won't be anything here that isn't supposed to be here.
Turns out maybe there's an MP with a conscience.
Yep, yes there is. Well, it turns out that the
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reason he has a conscience. We find out the next kind of the
next day as Noshiko is waiting in the in the in the little
alley next to the car bays, 'cause it turns out that Noshiko
and the Nice MP are together. Yes, they are.
Smooching. Yes, they're having a little
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clandestine relationship going on here in The Cave and they're
real cute because she's like, and his name is Corporal Reese
and she's like, why do I like you when you're acting tough?
Which is adorable. Now is.
This adorable, that's why this utterly.
Problematic. Yeah, A. 100% in every possible
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way for sure. And also they're real cute.
They're real. Cute.
And she's like, I like my handsome medic.
And like, yeah, he's pretty cute.
He is. He's pretty cute.
He's pretty cute. He wants her to be more careful
about taking the medical supplies and he like quotes
Japanese proverbs to her in Japanese 'cause he's learning
like what a cutie. What a cutie.
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And he's brought her chocolate. So sweet.
Yeah, it's adorable. So we get a scene of them, like
hanging out in a military vehicle, Titanic style, you
know, have a little, a little make out sesh in a in a military
vehicle, getting a little time together.
She's teaching him French because he's gonna be relocated
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to North Africa. So they're having like a cute
little, a little clandestine moment.
Like the whole thing is clandestine because he's part of
the whole, you know, keeping theprisoner so bad.
But he's a whole, you know, prisoner.
And she is a whole prisoner, Yes, but they hear a sound, and
down the way they catch AmericanHaze, the two dudes from the
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cold open, making a little deal with the camp doctor.
Oh no, what's happening here? It's almost like they're even
worse. Indeed.
And, you know, so we get, you know, little, little forward a
minute. Pneumonia is seeping through the
camp, which obviously you know, you shove a bunch of people into
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small spaces. It's a communicable disease.
It you know, that's, that's one of the things that happens.
If somebody gets sick, then a lot of other people get sick.
And they are out of the specificmedicine they need to treat
this. I didn't write it down.
It didn't matter, I think, but. Pneumonia is a bacterial
infection, so it might be antibiotics like a specific kind
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of antibiotic. They.
Said it in the show and I was like, I'm not typing that down.
I didn't write it down, sorry. It's like I'm not typing that
and it would have been what theyused in 1943 like.
Yeah. But Noshiko saw those boxes on
the truck and she's like, no, there should be more.
Yeah, they were here. They were there.
Yeah, like we had some and it turns out American Haze have
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been selling, have been using, helping the doctor sell the meds
on the black market for money. Yeah, and like, modern day
Noshiko is so sad and she recounts all of this.
She's just like, she's literallyin tears because we're finding
that, you know, in the opening scene, we had like, you know, an
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entire bunk room full of people.And now like half of those
people are in hospital beds trying to die of pneumonia,
including the little kid with the baseball.
I. Know.
I will say I wanted to be sadderabout that but the dads acting
made it very difficult. Yeah.
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That was that was rough. That was rough.
But you know what? I get it, but it was a little
rough. You know, not everything could
be perfect. Not everything could be perfect.
He was a grieving father, I understand.
But he has passed and everyone'sgetting increasingly angry,
especially the dad. He's like, they murdered my son.
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I don't know what to do. Like, I'm going to kill them
all. Yeah.
And Satomi is in her little, in her little box, in her little
corner, and she's playing Go. She's playing this, like,
Japanese board game with little tiles because she is desperately
trying to calm down. She's trying to stay.
She's trying to stay calm. Turns out angry Dad manifests
(27:06):
himself a Molotov cocktail. This.
Show loves Molotov cocktails. Indeed, we really appreciate a
bottle that sets itself on fire.Like, Yikes.
Yeah, yeah, there's, there is a riot, a Bruin and they want that
doctor. Because the doctor ends up
showing up in a car with American haze.
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Trying to get the fuck out. Trying to get the fuck out and
the pretty much every Japanese American prisoner in the camp
surrounds the vehicle trying to get to these three people who
have been stealing and selling their medication while their
people are dying. So, you know, tensions are
tensions are rising, fire is present.
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And Nochko's love, Reese is desperately trying to protect
the Japanese Americans because soldiers are like, trying to
shoot at them. And he is desperately trying to
get them to stand down because he knows what's going on.
He and Nochkovic figured it out.And Reese will not let he's like
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trying so hard to keep it all under wraps.
He's like trying to help everybody resolve tensions.
Yeah, 'cause you know, one good man.
I mean, he can't, you can't really call him a good man if he
is in fact working at this camp.But he's, you know.
The best that we've got. He's the best that we've got.
Of the available choices, he's the best we've got.
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Except somebody in the crowd hits Satomi.
And Satomi has been trying her absolute best to stay calm and
centered this whole time, and this just really pushes her over
the edge. Yeah, 'cause she is not a human,
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she is a bitten werewolf. Has her eyes go, and they are
the bright yellow eyes that we have seen in our beloveds
before. Somehow she has managed to keep
her shit together in this camp, but no longer.
No longer. And she takes one of those
Molotov cocktails and she throwsit at at.
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Reese Pretty much, yeah. Who Probably not specific like
it just it hits him and he goes up in flame as if he is covered
in gasoline. I really appreciate that it
just, it hits him immediately, engulfs him in flames and
doesn't set anything else on fire.
Nothing else, nothing else. It is very specifically just on
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Reese. He's the only one.
The only one. Yeah, so guns are blazing.
The officers are firing at the prisoners.
Noshko gets hit just a bunch of times.
It looks like she's dead. Reese gets taken to Eiken House.
Well, apparently they're connected like Eiken house
(30:01):
apparently. Is part of this complex?
Is. Part of this compound, yeah.
Which wasn't clear at first. It was like how does not?
How did this happen? Like that was not at all clear
until like after the fact. But in in the voice over from
present day Noshko, she's like and his screams echoed.
(30:22):
Get it echoed. Yeah.
Which is which is odd cause Eiken is already its name.
Do you mean to tell me that the echoes of screams that we hear
in Eiken housewares just still Reese?
I think so. He's just howling because he he
dies from his burns because the doctors also sold the morphine.
(30:42):
Yeah. What an ass.
He was gonna die from those anyway, but he didn't have to
die like that. But he.
Didn't have to go like that, yeah.
So yeah. Don't you think it would have
been very not Not cool, but an an interesting scene to actually
see them wrapping him in the gauze because you never see them
wrap him in the gauze. No.
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And the gauze is so fundamental to his.
Character designs indeed, because you have to know the
reason that he's wrapped in gauze.
It has third degree burns. All his entire, at least his
torso up. I mean, he was covered head to
toe. Like I think they just left his
pants on because standards and practices, Yeah, like those they
would have cut his pants off to get to him.
(31:25):
Like he shouldn't be wearing those pants, but whatever.
And that's not really how we treat burns anymore anyway.
Anyway. And like they cut him a mouth
hole. They did.
They cut him a mouth hole to breathe I guess.
I guess, yeah, Anyway, so, but Iwould have liked to have seen
them wrapping him so that you really get this like, oh, you
know. 'Cause like I as a as a grown,
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as a grown up who has gotten burns before, like we just don't
really treat burns like that anymore.
I. Understand.
I can. I can put it together that he is
burned and you have to wrap things that are injured in
gauze. But I would have loved like a
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little bitty like Cap, just likeseeing them like wrapping his
fingers. Yeah.
You know, something to kind of link it together for people who
may not be able to immediately put one and two together.
Yeah, totally. And it could have just looked
cool it. Would have been terrifying, but.
Importantly so anyway, so then we we see Merrick and Hayes
(32:33):
getting the job of of getting rid of the bodies and doing the
cover up because they, the government can't have this
incident at the camp. Right.
Not that I, you know, knowing how much we, we get away with as
the United States, like, I don'tknow that people would have
cared. Like we, no one cared that we
were rounding up Japanese citizens in the 1st place.
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I don't know that anyway. So Noshko, because people think
she's dead, gets thrown into thetruck as well and happens to be
next to Reese's body. Yeah, in in the first time I
cried in this episode. By chance, I guess Reese's body
had been put next to mine. Ouch.
Chance or like magical intervention?
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Ouch. And so as Noshko, she's still a
kiss and I so she's starting to heal very, very slowly, but
she's starting to heal. And so out of her rage and her
grief, she sends up basically a prayer to the, you know, to the
ancestors, to the, to the, to the kits and a gods and asks for
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a no Gitsune. She asks for a dark spirit of
revenge to to inherit her body, to to take her over and seek the
and seek the revenge that they are owed.
Yep. And and she gets it but it but
it missed. Well, they're tricksters.
They are tricksters. It's a trick.
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Spirit. Yeah, it it showed up, but it it
didn't do exactly what she asked.
It did what it wanted, and that was to possess Reese for the
lulls. Because it has.
It's a millennial. It's a millennial.
It has a very dark sense of humor.
You sure did. So hi.
Reese Reese is back, baby. And he, you know, he took his
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iconic, I don't know, it's iconic, but he took the guy's
jacket because it was embarrassed by its burns.
I don't know. And and drove off.
It doesn't have any eyes, but itdrove off.
He's just. Yeah, he's just hanging out.
It's cool. And it has some revenge to an
act. Yeah, it does.
He got to RIP off the head of his, you know, betrayers.
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And then it sorts out that he brought chaos and pain to Oak
Creek and Aiken. Yeah.
Ouch. Hey, I mean, man's got to do
what in A Gitson A's got to do and everyone is fucking dead.
Everybody's fucking dead. Ouch, Ouch, Ouch, kabibbles.
And so we get, you know, everyone's bleeding and dying
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and everything's terrible, but we finally see Noshko and the
Reese Gitson a in in an alley, kind of in a, in a little
corridor, like the ones that they used to meet up in to
smooch in the dark. And turns out that she made
herself a a little wolfy friend.And so Satomi and Noshiko team
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up to to to finally murder the Rhys Gibson A Satomi gets him
with claws in the back and Noshiko gets him with a sword in
the front. Ouch.
Ouchies. And it it seems it does
something well, it shatters the Cortana.
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It shatters the Cortana and thenit like there's like a bug that
kind of flies out of his mouth and Noshiko catches the fly, the
bug, that little Firefly, that little, that little bug that
flies out of his mouth. And he falls to the ground.
And in my second tears of this episode.
He whispers Ku, my French pronunciation was always
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terrible. Ku, the food love at first,
which directly translates to bolt of lightning, which
colloquial means love at first sight, which is what they were
like whispering to each other back in their little Jeep make
out session. It was the French that that she
was teaching to him. And it's something that Noshko
in present day teaches to Scott and Kira.
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And so I'm crying because, you know, Kupta Fusala is sweet and
beautiful and adorable. And then it we get we get Reese
back for like a hot 2nd. It's what he tells to Noshko
before he dies for real. Yes, he's his real mind is back.
And I cried and I hurt and I hate this.
And then she, Noshko has to has to run.
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She's gotta go. She's gotta go.
She's got the fly in a jar and she takes off running and
arrives. At this big ass tree at.
The Nematon. Look at this big ass healthy
tree. It's so healthy, fully grown, so
many branches and. Leaves.
It's so. Pretty, and that that's where we
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end on our flashback sesh, is she has arrived at the fully
grown, beautiful Nematon. Indeed.
Good for her, I guess. Well, well, kind of.
Tried. She tried.
I killed the I killed the Nick incident.
No, you did not. You did not.
You killed your you killed your boyfriend who was already dead,
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and then you trapped a bug but only stuck it away.
You didn't get the chance to murder it, you just shit it.
She tried real hard. She did try real hard, but it
didn't. Didn't quite work.
Didn't quite work, no. So now we have to go back to the
present day where, you know, allof our friends are still making
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choices. Yes, they are.
So during the story, Kira is like mad at her mother for not
telling her, well, one that she's 900 years old and for not
telling them about the origin ofthe Nigetzine for this whole
time. And part of that reason that I
mean, valid, that's that's a righteous anger.
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And part of the reason Noshiko didn't tell them is this whole
wolves and foxes tend not to getalong thing because Kira's kind
of aligned herself with the HailMcCall pack.
So she's kind of been withholding information because
of the werewolves. But Ken is like, I think it's
time for allies because Ken is the best.
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Because Ken is the best. And he's not he's They have this
whole thing about mistakes beingrepeated, history being
repeated. If you don't remember the past,
I think it's time to let the pack in.
Even though he's right to not trust the urgents.
He does not trust the urgents, which is legitimate.
That's valid, that's valid. Speaking of not trusting the
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urgents, we get a one-on-one with Deputy Parrish, who doesn't
trust a bitch. No, Deputy Parish does not trust
these kids at all. We are over at the the sheriff's
station because it's time for Chris and Derek to finally get
checked out of jail. Parish does not want to let
Chris take his cattle prod home.Because it's like, I don't know,
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Army grade. Oh yeah.
Weaponry and Chris is like I only use it for hunting and
Derek's face look. That Derek gives Chris Christ
alive. I love it.
It was so good. Like so much of this episode is
so serious but the two of them are like a comedy duo
accidentally. It's incredible.
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It's truly incredible. I love, I love it so much.
But the sheriff, you know, sensing that there's trouble in
paradise, doodles perish away and it's like, I got this, I'll
take care of it. It's fine.
It's just like this is like a light Saber.
It really is. Looks like one.
Yeah. So he's.
Yeah. He shows Chris and Derek the
brain scans, his wife and Styleshis brain scans because he's
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like, listen, I've been thinkingabout this.
And I was like, these are so similar.
They're too similar. And it turns out they are
exactly the same. Dun Dun.
Because Void was fucking with them.
Boy, it's fucking with you. And he's got this thing about,
like, you know, if you're tryingto really cut down your enemies,
like, what do you do? You take away their hope.
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And this is how you could take away, like, Styles is hope.
Yeah. Because Styles might give up
hope. And then it cuts to.
Derek, I do not do not perceive me like that's how the.
Scene goes is Stiles might give up hope, cut to Derek.
Like, 'cause it, it's basically Chris and the sheriff who are
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having this back and forth and Derek just like hanging out
listening. And Chris goes, you don't look
like a man who gives up hope easily.
And then the sheriff goes, but Stiles might.
And then we flash to Derek and then we flashback like to Chris,
like why? Why 'cause I'm hungry, I'm
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desperate. I'm I, I'm looking at crumbs.
Why? Cause reasons.
And my note here is dad versus dad and husband.
And husband and you know, the sheriff's like I need both of
you to help me stop him and not kill him, but stop him.
Stop. Him.
Trap him. Yeah, trap him and he gives
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Chris the cap brought back, which is like don't, don't let
him have that. So the team gathers at the
Argents and everyone's trying tofigure out where Styles is and
the amount of significant looks between Derek and the sheriff.
I am truly unwell. Yeah, and I so I like that
they've gathered up non lethal stuff to make a plan to find
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styles, but like there's not that much stuff.
No. 'Cause they don't really have
non lethal equipment. Yeah.
And so it's Sheriff and Chris and Derek and Allison and
Derek's the one who's like didn't didn't we already do
this? Like, and it didn't work like
we've tried and it sucked. We're trying to outfox the fox.
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Like what are we going to do here?
And you know, has I'm not going to be the first wolf to run from
a fox because we've got this whole theme of like foxes
versus. Wolves.
Thus born an entire section of fanfic Teen Wolf fanfic.
We do love fox styles. We do, and Derek does catch
Chris loading up on lethal guns because Chris always has a
backup plan. And I mean to be fair, he always
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needs a backup plan. So always does, because nothing
goes right the first time ever. They split up, right?
Yes, it's going to be Sheriff and Allison and then Chris and
Derek because they are a pair now.
That's fair, that's valid. That is fair and and over in the
school we have a little scene ofNoshiko cutting her hand on the
Cortana Shard because she wants Kira to use her powers to put
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the Cortana back together. SAP.
And she cuts her hand, but the wound is like, gone.
And she explains to Kira that like, listen, you're not going
to get sick. We can heal.
I'm 900 years old. How do you think this happens?
Which really probably just adds to Kira's annoyance.
Like, why didn't you fucking tell me?
You. Could have told me.
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You could have told me at any point in the last.
At any point you could have toldme.
Yeah, like I'm 1617 years old. Like, why didn't you've never
explained that I haven't gotten a cold or a scraped knee?
Like the fuck? So yeah.
So Allison and Scott or Allison and Sheriff are off.
And you know, sheriff's like, listen, I don't, I don't know
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how you kids fucking do this. Like, I'm already tired.
And Allison admits she's failingecon, but then she starts to
cry, which is valid. That's so fucking valid of her.
Allie A needs a trusted fucking adult.
None of them cry enough. They don't, they don't cry, they
don't express like grief. These these kids have had one
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after another after another likeI like.
So the sheriff, knowing that this girl needs a trusted adult,
turns off the elevator that they're in and just gives her a
hug. And she just like proceeds to
politely like collapse. And it is my stern belief that
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all of these kids need as many trusted adults as possible.
They just they all need at leastfour more trusted adults
absolutely like about it. They need a couple days where
they're just like in bed, drinking hot cocoa and crying
because. They really needed a beach
episode. Yeah.
They really needed like a fair episode like.
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Yeah, someone just a nice littlebreakdown to really get those
emotions out. They needed to go to a carnival
and Styles and Derek needed to get stuck on the Ferris wheel.
Yeah, with some like cotton candy.
And Allison and Scott need to get stuck in the in like the
little hall of mirrors. And yeah, yeah, it's they needed
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this. They did.
They really do. So Sheriff being a trusted
adult. So I was like, that's Coach's
class, let me talk to him for you.
It's like, oh, OK, Dad. Thanks, Dad.
Yep. Yeah.
And he's probably happy to like,comfort someone while his son is
gone. Yeah, 'cause he's definitely,
(45:40):
like, alone in this, 'cause he doesn't.
Styles is it? That's all the family he's got
left. And so the sheriff has not also
been able to process any of these feelings, but he's about
to get a few more feelings because his phone goes off.
And it turns out that after Styles had been sleepwalking
again, the sheriff basically like surveilled this house
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cameras and motor detectors justtrying to keep a hold of things.
Turns out Void is just hanging out in Styles bedroom and like
politely waving at the camera like a cute little cat fox.
Like hello. Hey, just waving.
Just. Hanging out?
How you doing asshole? Piece of shit, but he's cute.
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He's so cute. Yeah, so they show up at Styles
Bedroom. He's not there, obviously.
He just wanted to draw them there.
And they gather around the infamous chess board.
The infamous chess board. Yes, and, and and and.
Out of my first born son's mouthcomes the words.
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Is there any reason why my name's on the King?
Yeah, baby. Eric, because I'll give you 3
guesses as to why your name's onthe King.
Yeah. I'll give you 3 guesses.
And king of my heart. And the pieces have changed
because he was not the king before he was a he was a knight
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or a Bishop, I forget which one.But he is now the king.
Not only is he the king, but he's not horribly far from
checkmate. Now he's one move from
checkmate. Which is correct?
I realize that your your hatred and rage may have blinded you
from this. Did you see who's on the chess
board? I OK, so I was not watching this
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episode alone and I did not havethe chance to pause because I
couldn't. I couldn't rightfully be like
give me 5 minutes to stare at this chess board.
So I I did not have the opportunity to pause, rewind,
pause, rewind like I wanted to. So no I didn't.
I didn't get the chance to stareat the chess board.
Derek's ex-girlfriend Katie A ison that chess board, baby.
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God damn it. That's right, Kate is on the
chess board and I noticed that for the first time this time and
I was like, that's why he's in trackmate cause Kate's on the
chess board. Like I, I got you.
I understand. I see what?
I see what's happening. Like OK.
I'm really upset. I'm really upset.
Terrible. But again, we have a lot of like
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really intense looks of Derek being in Styles's places and
I've just, I have do not perceive me.
I can't. I can't.
There's there's no need for this.
It's fun though, I like it. It's so much fun.
So yeah, this is. And then, of course, they're
like, so he's at the loft and the sheriff is the one who's
like, hold on, the trickster. He wants irony.
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He wants a joke. He wants, like, before we rush
in, let's let's hold on a secondbecause they need they need to
make a new punchline for this guy.
Yeah. And he's he's not wrong.
So tell me, can someone explain to me in small words why is void
at the loft other than to fuck with me?
I Yeah, well, because Derek is his king.
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Other than to fuck with me, Emily, is there a real reason
he's at the loft? Because it's the other set they
have done. That's probably it.
Fuck yeah. So Void just, like, decides to
go to the loft because, you know, reasons.
And Kira has now officially inherited her mother's sword
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because Kira is able to use her cool new Thunder Kitsune powers
that her mom politely informs her of.
And she zaps the sword back together and Noshko basically
hands it to her and says like, you know what must be done?
It's like you have to kill. Ben gets an A rut row.
Time to go, baby. So we are setting up for a
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showdown at the loft because theteam Hunter appears at the Loft
and voids. Just.
Hanging out in loft in the big windows where he's been many,
many times before. Like he feels safe here or
something. Like someone's going to protect
him here or something. Or the Ningitsane knows that
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Styles wants to be here and is messing with him by tea.
I've read that pic, it hurts real bad.
Oh God those pics hurt so bad When the ningitsane uses Derek
to mess with Styles. Yep.
Hurts so good. And so we end the episode on a
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polite little intimate showdown between Styles and the sheriff,
and Void just looks up and goes hi dad.
Hi, Dad. Yikes Yikes.
It's so hurtful. I do like that it's the sheriff
is the one who walks in. For sure.
Yeah, I I like that. Yeah, trying.
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'Cause I. Yeah, Ouch.
This is a very plotty episode. Yeah, we actually like things
have progressed and I really appreciate that.
And the chess board. This this episode was just a
birthplace of fandom things for this this era of Teen Wolf,
especially of Steric. You know, there's cat cat
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behavior, Styles slash void, allof the big themes of like the
foxes and the wolves. Because Styles is in fact a fox
and Scott and Derek are all wolves.
We're looking at the chess board.
The chess board, the. Chess board.
The chess board. Chess is styles game,
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apparently. Yeah, he we've never seen him
actually play chess, but he usedthe chess board to explain
supernatural to his dad, so we at least know that this is his.
So the chess board is Styles game.
It's not that it gets in his game, but yeah.
Tell me why my name's on the King.
Yeah, Derek, tell me. Tell me why your name is on the
king. This the the number of King and
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Lionheart gifts and edits this spawned was unbelievable.
The deluge. The utter deluge.
Incredible. And then of course, we'll get
this episode and next episode, Ithink, as we start kind of
spawning off of what what does the Nagitsa name know and what
are people hiding? And it's super interesting.
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So yeah. Yeah, I like this episode.
Oh yeah, it's a good episode. It it it's a lot, but it's
really. Good.
It's a lot. Yeah.
I like it. I mean it.
Yeah, I know. It's very easy to be distracted
by the Derek is the King. Oh yeah, super easy to be
distracted. Which is such like a small piece
and you're like, OK, and. And what's what?
(52:46):
What else? What else is here?
And yeah, but so much of this isabout, like, the origin of the
monster. It's good.
I I really like it. I mean, I would like to know
more about why Derek is the king, other than which, you
know, the king is not the important chess bees.
The Queen is. Who's on the Queen?
Oh, man, I'd have to go. Let's say wolf chess board, the
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chess board, black king, blah blah blah.
White Rook. What?
I don't see a queen. Someone listed out.
I don't know that there's a queen.
Pawns can become Queens. I don't see any Queens on the
board. So yeah.
But Kate is a pawn. A white pawn.
I mean, of course she's a pawn. I'm just, I'm so I'm I'm so
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curious. I'm so curious.
I know. But blue.
No, I mean what? Yeah.
So I'm I will be open minded probably.
I mean, maybe, but to what end? I know.
But no, this episode is so much fun.
A lot of really big, powerful, scary emotions and history and
back story and it's fascinating and I love getting to see art
(53:57):
and show just do more things. No, that was so nice to give her
like a whole other thing to do, yeah.
She she was the most of this episode and I love that for her.
Yeah, me too. It's great.
And playing like somebody else. Yeah, that's what it was like.
Super fun and you know, like. I mean, I don't know, I don't
know what Daniel Sherman was doing, but like, I hope Isaac's
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OK. Where's Lydia?
The hell is Lydia? Yeah, yeah.
I don't know what they were doing, but I hope they're OK.
Hope. Everyone's fine.
Yeah, but yeah, some, you know, the roller coaster is at the
about the top here. Yeah, we're, we're climbing.
We're climbing the roller coaster.
I think we're gonna hit the peakof the roller coaster next
(54:39):
episode, but like. Yeah, we are.
We're we're doing the thing here.
So. We're very swiftly doing the
thing. Yeah, I'm excited.
Yeah, we, we. All right, so I guess we will
see you next week. I, you know, you can find us on
the Internet. Fandom on the rocks You can
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