(S3E7) Pack Dynamics: A Teen Wolf Podcast - Currents - Fandom on the Rocks

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You're listening to PAC Dynamics, a Fandom on the Rocks
podcast. Hello, Welcome back to PAC
Dynamics, a Teen Wolf podcast. I am Emily.
And I'm Allison. And now we have to say things
that are appropriate for the podcast.
This episode makes me feel a lotof feelings and I don't even
know how to start, how to start.I'm just I'm up, I'm down, I'm

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side to side, I'm upside down. Was.
That a song upset it. Feels like it should be to the
window to the wall. Till the currents run down my
no. The currents are running through
something. They're running through
something. Well, this is Season 3 Episode 7

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currents. As the danger begins to reach
closer to Scott threatening his trusted mentor and boss.
Deaton, Collie and the twins go after Derek.
This episode air July 15th, 2013.
I feel like those things are true.
They are absolutely none of the things I remember from this
episode. Yeah, I mean, well, Deaton was

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threatened and the collie went after Derek.
Yes, both of those things are true.
And yet. And yet, that's not what
happened in this episode. Not what?
Happened in this episode. Like, I mean, get, yeah, I guess
technically you're correct, but like, no.
This is so OK, Sometimes TV shows have this problem where
they do a thing and you're like,but why did you do that thing?

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What was the point? Why did you, why did you hurt
that man? Why did you bring in characters
just to kill them off? Why, why, why?
We're just. Gonna skip all the way ahead and
we'll come back to it. Why did you kill Boyd?
Why did you bring in Erica and Boyd for just a brief, fleeting
moment and then get rid of them?What was the point?

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Like, I get that the actress forErica went to another show.
OK, whatever. But did she?
Because that was what was happening with the character.
Like why do you bring in interesting characters just to
kill them off? I'm tired of sharper value.
They'll do the same with Kora. Yes, they'll.
Fucking do the same with Kora. They killed off Erica to bring

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in Kora and then they just like,ship her back to South America
and you're like, why? Why?
Why? Like Team Wolf is not the only
show. That does this right.
This is not a A Team Wolf problem.
It is a Teen Wolf problem, but it's not an.
Exclusively Teen Wolf problem. It's, it always feels so lazy to

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be like, hey, here's here's a little treat, Here's a fun
little treat. We gave you these precious
characters. We made you love them and we're
gonna fucking kill them. Like, think Shonda Rhimes.
Like. It's George.
It's George. Like no, stop it.
It's not double double O 7 fuck you.

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Exactly like I just I just at. Least we had George for some
seasons. Like what you gave us, Baraka
for for a minute? And then you're like, we started
on special guest star gauge. Go lightly.
Get me started. How dare you.
Special guests are her. How dare you?

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I just don't. Understand why TV shows rely on
this, this. I mean, I get it because it tugs
at heartstrings and it makes people lean in to the screen to
be like, oh, I'm really excited with these new characters.
Oh, no, they're gone. I'm so invested, like, well, I'm
not going to be invested in yournew characters anymore.
As soon as this happens on TV shows, they're like, well, now I

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don't care about any of your newcharacters 'cause they're just
gonna fucking go away. It just, I'm just, I'm so sad.
And this, I think, is why Teen Wolf works so well in fandom.
Because even now, in 2024, the Hail pack as it stands, Derek,
Isaac, Erica and Boyd are still a unit.

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Yes, they're still. A unit, They still show up all
the time regardless of who else shows up.
We'll get new characters next season and season after that,
the season after that. But like Boyd and Erica and
Cora, frankly all still show up in fic all the time.
All the time. They're always alive.
They're always alive. Always rejected.

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Don't care what happened in yourfucking show, they're alive.
Derek deserves a fucking family.Derek deserves a fucking family
and I. And frankly, in the fick that I
read and and OK and my fick is deeply steric, it's not.
It's not Scott oriented, but Kira is there sometimes.

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But the rest of the newbies aren't.
The season 5 and six people are never in like new Fick.
It's it people go back to Boyd and Erica and they go back to
Isaac and they go back to Cora and Allison.
Yeah, and it's like they'll they'll start every once in a
while. You'll get like Liam and Theo,

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who you'll meet in Season 5. But really it just depends on
kind of like how far along they are kind of, you know, if it's,
if it's like 10 years in the future, if it's like movie time,
then you're going to talk about Mason and you're going to talk
about Corey and you're going to talk about, you know, Jordan and
whatever. But so much fic comes back to
this. I was thinking about it earlier

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today as I was like, you know, reading through some fic and
almost every fic I've been picking up lately and maybe this
is just 'cause I have to go digging and do more, you know,
stuff that wasn't written in thesame time period.
But so much fake I've been picking up happens right after
season 2. Yeah.
And I'm just like, that's very why?

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Why is that? Because Season 3 has so much
good stuff. Because people are traumatized
by all the characters dying. Like they just they not that
season 2 isn't traumatizing, right?
But like, they don't, they don'timagine a world in which it's
season 3. They imagine a world in which
it's season 2, like where Derek is the alpha and learns from

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Boyd and Erica and where they come back to the pack and Derek,
you know, figures out how to be a good like alpha and brother
and father figure to Isaac. And he like, learns from these
things. And I'm just like, why do we
keep coming back to this? And then I watch this episode
and I'm like, oh, because I because we rejected Canon.

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That's why. Even Dick Bag Jackson comes back
as like a better person. Yes to the pack.
Yes, he does, and he teaches things to everyone and everyone
learns from him. It's like, guys, you can't.
Take them away from us. You can't take them away from
me. You can't take this guy from me.
You can't take these betas from me.
And so you'll. I mean, maybe it's such a leap

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into spoiler dumb, but how many pack members does Scott lose?
Is it just Derek who loses all of his family?
It's just Eric who loses all of them.
So why doesn't Scott have to suffer through losing pack
members? Scott loses Allison.
Not a pack member kind, I mean not wolf.
Yeah. But somebody, he's like.
But the whole thing about Scott in his pack is that it's not
made of wolves. That's true.

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Like Scott doesn't get a wolf inhis pack until season 5.
This is true. Like it takes him a while to get
another werewolf. But no, the only one that Scott
loses like loses loses is Allison.
And like, people kind of fall out, you know, like Isaac.
Isaac doesn't die, but he leavesthe show but like, he's still

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around. And Isaac is still one of
Derek's. Yeah, but Isaac is going to
become one of Scott. 'S he is.
But you know, if you think aboutthe the people that Derek
turned, yeah, they're all gone. Yeah, Jackson, Isaac Boyd, Erika
Boyd. Do they just?
Do they just not like Derek as acharacter the way that we do?

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I don't know is. It is it just us?
Are we just stuck in Tyler Heckland's face and we're just
like blinded by cheekbone? I don't think so.
I'm just like I I will say I really enjoy Scott as like an
alpha in season 4. Like he kind of like settles and
do it. He's like, yeah, OK, I got this.
I'm I'm good, I got this. But like.

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Right now it's. Just really, really upsetting to
watch all of these like very forceful transitions happen and
it like it doesn't it? It is not my cup of tea.
It is not my game. And this actually, now that you
said that, this very much feels like a quick, purposeful

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stripping Derek of everything tomake sure Scott has something.
Yes. And in a way that's like, not
natural, but forced. Like, OK, we got to get rid of
everything that gives Derek power and authority so that
Scott can easily take over. Yeah.
And I don't care for that shit. It like again, on the whole,

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like by the time we get through season 3 and into season 4, I'm
like, oh, OK. And Scott really kind of comes
into into his leadership style and he really kind of figures it
out. And I really enjoy watching that
Scott. But watching watching this,
really, it does feel like they're physically stripping

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things from Derek to give them to Scott.
And that feels a little weird for me.
It does. And I just this episode, like
there's a lot of things in this episode I go back to all the
time, but like something about it just feels a little funny.
Something about it just feels a little funny.
Not a fan. OK, well I guess we should

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actually plot a little bit. And next time on pack dynamics.
OK, so on visionary no. So, so plot wise, 1015 minutes
into this, so we've got our our cold open is we have an ER just
full of patients and there's been a 10 car pile up.
The ER attending is not answering pages and it's just

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chaos in here. It kind of seems like these
patients are going to be important.
They're not. No, it does.
It really seems like they're going to be important and
they're just not. They're just not important.
So what is important one is Scott coming in to bring his
mother dinner, which is very cute, and then also he helps

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ease the pain of one of the accident victims.
He does. So Scott, like at the beginning
was it of Season 2, He's like, I'm gonna do, I'm gonna do
better. I'm gonna be better.
And it's like this, Scott, I just want to take by the face
and just snuggle. He is he's being such a good
son. He is like learning how to he's

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now finally like coming into hispowers enough to be like I can
use them for good. It's like, yes, you can.
And he does. And he like politely lies to
this woman to help ease her painwith his like black vein, where
will be powers. And I'm like, I love everything
about who you are as a person. Which thankfully she doesn't
notice. Yes, she doesn't notice she is

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in too much pain. When I am in that much pain I
notice nothing and I don't know how my feet work.
I don't know how I get from to place like.
This, I think is the first time they do it on a human right.
I think so, yeah. Dogs, werewolves and now humans,
yeah. This is like strangers stranger
danger, but it works on strangers.
It works on strangers. And like with whatever his,
like, leadership style is, is that Scott is still

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fundamentally a good kid and he is working and trying so hard
every day, every episode to be better.
And I really love that about him.
Yes. Which is why other things can be
so frustrating. Yes, you're.
Like I love this version, like male nurturing, Fantastic.

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You don't see a ton of it. No, and he is so soft and it
makes him, Scott cares so much about the comfort and safety of
other people. And he does that, you know, over
himself, which is like not the most self preservation Y kind of
thing that he'll do, but he loves other people and he's not
afraid to show it. And I I love that so much about

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him. Totally.
He's such a good kid. He is.
We also have Ethan bringing in Danny.
Danny know. Danny know who is having chest
pains and trouble breathing and then he vomits up mistletoe.
And the werewolves are like. Also, why does a human have
mistletoe? Not good.
How did how did Danny interest so much mistletoe?

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This is never solved like. Whole ass berries.
Like what were you? I don't know.
Like mistletoe doesn't it? Doesn't taste good like.
Like no, it's, it's poisonous. Like don't, don't eat it.
And wouldn't he be like, how didI?
Who knows? It's never solved.
We don't know how he gets it, but he does.
His lung is collapsed and incredible.
Mama McCall is out there performing a needle thoracostomy

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by herself to reinflate his lungand so.
Badass. A consummate medical
professional. And the way that, like Scott and
Ethan both look at her after it's done, it's like Mama's part
of the pack. She's officially part of the
pack. She's an auditory werewolf.
Fight me. And I also love like showing.

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I always love a show that shows in nurses doing things above
doctors. Which is not to say the doctors
don't deserve credit, but nurses?
Yay. But also nurses, yes.
And also the the side charactersbeing valuable.
Yes. Because she's a trained
professional, let her do things that is aren't just like being

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worried about her children. Right.
One of the things I love about this is as it's, it's one of
those it, it almost feels like amafia moment because it's, you
know, the Scott McCall werewolf Mafia versus the Alpha Ethan,
whatever his last name is. Alpha Mafia in this moment, in
this hospital, it's family. Yeah, we're not.

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We're not fighting in here. It's family.
The hospital is neutral ground. Hospital's like neutral ground
because everybody loves Danny. And it's not going to be like,
I'm going to save him. No, I'm going to save him.
No, I'm going to do it. It's like no, no, no, no, no,
no, no. We can leave business at the
door. Yes.
And we're going to come in here and and do family and it's I
just, I love that. I actually love the idea of like
both packs have to leave shit behind at the hospital doors.

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Yes, correct. Like whatever happens, it ends
at the hospital because everyoneneeds help.
Yeah, but also the hospital is going to become like a, a, a no,
no zone here in a in not horribly long and I'm going to
be really upset about it. So it's neutral now?
Neutral now. So then outside Speaking of

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hospital neutral. Zone cause 'cause we've left
we're we're back in the doors and so every we get, we get
business again. It's mafia versus mafia.
Mafia versus mafia and Ethan is telling Scott that like he
didn't do anything to Danny, which we have to believe because
he seems to like Danny. He.
Seems to like Danny. However, at the end of this

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episode I'm like anti twin to tothe end.
Oh, correct. Like, there's no coming back
from it. But at this moment, you're like,
well, he seems to like Danny. But he says we knew one of them
was going to be important to you, and now we know it's Lydia.
I don't understand how their brains got to this particular.

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I know like what? Was there a missing scene?
Like how are they deciding how? How is Dukalian putting this
into play? Like, OK, it's either Lydia or
Danny and we're gonna use mistletoe to figure it out.
Like I because they rescue I I didn't understand the the plot
logic. Yeah, of not, not that Lydia

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isn't important to Scott. Like let's be real, like not
that Lydia is not important, butlike I don't understand why it's
Danny versus Lydia. I didn't either.
And not like Styles versus Allison like that would be a
much a much better like. Thing like they're all
important. I don't know what happened here.
Scott, like important in everybody of a call, is gonna

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save everybody. That's his.
That's his thing. Totally.
Like, I don't understand Important, Important how 'cause
I don't know. So yeah, I was very confuzzled
by what was going on here. Like, I feel like the the thing
that they could have said, it's like we knew that one of them
was going to be like you. We knew that one of them was

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going to be like have a little more supernatural inclination
than the other. And now we know it's Lydia.
Yes. Like did they also poison Lydia?
Like what? Like I just, I don't, I don't
understand. Did they assume the mistletoe
would just straight up kill Danny if he was a werewolf?
Maybe I don't, but maybe I don'tknow.

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I don't know. Cuz then that's just like murder
and like that's rude. Yeah, that would be incredibly
rude. Hi.
You're my super cute boyfriend who I really like to smooch on.
I'm just going to murder you with some berries.
K? Thank you.
Yeah, like, I'm not very Hunger Games of them.
I don't. Love that.
So the final thing that's happening at the hospital is the

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missing doctors and we see one of them, Doctor Hilliard, and
she is on her way to the hospital but her she is stuck in
traffic caused by this like 10 car pile up but suddenly moths
start filling her car. Dun Dun.
CGI moths. Really intense CGI moths, but.
Really intense. You know, to her credit, she

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tries to swap away like bam, allof the all of the moths that are
flying in through her air conditioning system.
And you know what? So would I.
Yeah. She didn't scream nearly as
loudly as I would have. She was driving fairly straight.
I would not have been able to keep that composure.
Oh, I would have crashed immediately.
Immediately, immediately I wouldhave like pulled up Chuck Norris

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and like rolled out of my car. Most of us can barely see in the
dark anyway. Like all wrecked like.
But then she also sees a scary face in the rearview mirror.
Which, you know, monster. Absolute monster.
When we come back to the hospital, her empty van somehow
rolls into the parking lot and crashes.
Very gently. I don't know how that happened.
Like at what point did she disappear from the van that it

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continued to roll directly into the parking lot?
I don't, I don't know. But it was a cool shot.
It was a great shot. I wanna give you just one
alternate universe. Yes.
What if instead of mobs, it was fireflies?
Can you imagine the astigmatism in the dark?
Oh my God, no. Like if your car in the rain at

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night like. With like oncoming headlights
too from all that that pile up, yes, and Oh my God, I would
have. And fireflies.
And fireflies like absolutely not it.
Would have looked like a carnival ride.
It would feel like a carnival ride.
I wouldn't have had no time to scream or just like can't see.

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Goodbye, cruel world. Come on, cruel world, I could
never see you. I could never see you.
Terrible. Yeah.
So at the hospital, of course the sheriff is there.
Styles is there because he is always there.
'Cause he's Scott's best friend.He's Scott's best friend 'cause.

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He's got best friend. And they're working on this
like, OK, now there are two missing doctors, 2 kidnapping
cases because the ER attending never made it in either.
And of course, Scott and Styles are like, these are part of the
sacrifices. They are healers, which is part
of the category that Deaton had mentioned.
Yep. So we had Oh my God, I don't
remember what they are, healers.We've had healers, warriors.

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Warriors. And virgins.
Yes, there we are. But then they're like, how does
Danny fit into this? He doesn't.
He doesn't. Not in the trio.
He's an innocent bystander once again.
The most innocent of bystanders and then?
Dan gets hurt, though he is an innocent bystander.

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Every time. Every time he's the most
innocent bystander. Poor guy.
So like, we're going through this kind of opening scene and
the credits are flashing on the on the bottom of the thing and
I'm like Michael Hogan, like, oh, Gerard's showing up.
And then it hits me like a brickto the face.
Special guest * Gage go lightly.And I go, oh God, it's Erica.

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Sweet Erica. And then I immediately
remembered what I was doing and what episode I was watching, and
my heart shattered into a million, billion pieces.
Yep, it's that episode. It's that episode.
And so somewhere like across town, it seems, they found a
body. They did.

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And Dukalian is there with one of the twins.
I imagine it's Ethan. It's yes.
Yeah. I don't sure.
But who's behind Dukalian looking suspicious?
It's Christopher Argent. Yeah, he is.
Being beautiful and being at Alpha.

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Yeah, he is. He'd make a great werewolf.
Oh, he'd he'd make a fantastic werewolf.
It might be mad to know that, but.
Like they're one of the many, many, many wonderful pieces of
thick and like and fannin that gets attributed to Christopher
Argent is that he is in fact theex lover of Peter Hale.

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Yes, yes, yes. Yes.
The more I think about that, just the better it gets those
two unbelievable, like violent, strategic sass masters just
going back and forth, all the like, like, yes, of course, of
course. Perfection, obviously.
Yeah. We can talk about like the

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parents and like the grown-ups in the gang and how you could
just like shake them up and justtoss them right out.
Melissa, Peter, Melissa, Scott, Melissa and the sheriff, Peter
and the sheriff, Peter and Chris, like, like all of it, all
of it. They all work.
Just put all their hand. Like just they all have two
hands. Just make a square.
Yep. Just be done.
It's a version of the BLOB that like, I don't hate.

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It's a version of the BLOB I don't hate.
Because all of their kids are all meshed together anyway.
So like the the commune situation works.
It's fine, it's fine. I have no feelings, no negative
feelings about this at all. Only two of them seem to go to
work anyway, so maybe pooling resources is not a bad idea.
Not a bad, Paul, but Speaking ofthings that are just like, you

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know, not not good, not. Sad, sad panda sleeping in his
loft. And then like the fire alarm
goes off. Except it's not the fire alarm,
it's the perimeter alarm. Yeah, so Derek is in his loft
taking a cat nap on the sofa. Some kind of power nap?
But yeah, he's got his perimeteralarm and he like leaps to his
feet. Cora is actually there for once,

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which is nice because they did kick Isaac out to give her
space. I I guess, I guess.
But that alpha symbol is on his window.
And Cora's like, what does it mean?
I'm like nothing good, Cora, nothing good.
Like you should know that. It's bad.
It's pretty obvious, baby. He left the last house 'cause
they marked it. The house that would have had

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room for everybody. Yeah, the house that would have
had room for everybody. Excuse me, Sir.
It means they're coming tonight.Dun Dun.
These are actually in very shortscenes, kind of all piled
together. They are 'cause they're all like
popcorn around. Because up next, we have just
like. I love this scene.
I love the I love this scene. I love this family.

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Like I am not. Like I'm still mad about Derek
kicking Isaac out of the house. I'm still mad about Derek not
being the alpha that Isaac desperately needs and deserves,
but Isaac becoming a member of the McCall household.
Adorable. Is correct.
It is correct. That is correct.
Like Isaac and Scott can they can be brothers, they can be

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lovers, They can just be roommates.
Like, I don't care. I don't, I don't care.
I I'm pulling for whatever makesthem happy.
But the two of them being sons under Mama Mccall's roof is just
like, it's so cute. It's so.
Cute. Yeah, Melissa wakes up and Scott
and Isaac are just sleeping in her room.
What incredible werewolf reflexes they both have.

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Indeed, not waking up at all. They're so good, such werewolf.
I love it. Yeah.
They were supposed to both be on.
You were on watch last. I might have been on watch last.
I wanted to make sure that she wasn't the third sacrifice.
So cute. I was very soft.
Yeah, I it's so good that Melissa's in on what's

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happening. Yes, it's so good because in
this episode, like later, it's really, really clear that like,
Melissa is now in on the secret and she's able to help and
participate. And the things that the sheriff
doesn't know and can't help withbecause he's not in on the joke.
Like he's not in. And it's like, how much danger

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is too much danger? I thought that was actually.
Those scenes are really interesting, though, because
it's such a good question of like, what's the balance of
putting someone in danger by reading them in versus having
them able to help? And like, do I put my dad in
danger by telling him what's going on or am I protecting him

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by not? Like, I think those are all fair
questions. Yeah.
So we'll get, we'll get to that actual conversation here in a
few scenes. But it's a it's such a good
question because we now have to go back to school and it is, it
is once again date stamped Miss Jennifer Blake with that little
peplum skirt, little peplum, that little thingy right around

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her belly 20/12/2013. 2013 Baby.Right there, straight out of
2012. Like, oh boy.
She's covering for Adrian Harrisand is very well aware of her
lack of skills as a science teacher of any kind.
I love the little moment where she was like, how'd she say it?
I'm, I'm covering him because he's still missing.

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I mean sick whoops like oops, oops.
Are they not supposed to know? Or you know, like what was I was
having in here? Yeah, well, considering they
found his corpse tied to a tree a few days ago.
Like he's been found. He's been found.
Sorry. And so they're all hanging out
in science class, and Scott getsa phone call from his boss and

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picks up the photo. It, like, hides under his desk.
Like like that's going to work. Yeah, like, OK, whatever, man.
Yeah, this. I like the scene too, because
Deaton calls and he's got he's just like holding this moth.
And it's a very the Liam Neeson Taken movies because like, I'm
going to be taken and I need youto find me.

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Yes, and Scott's like what? What, what, what?
What the fuck? What the fuck?
But, you know, Deaton is very much like, I'm nervous, but I
believe in you. And like, you look up.
You look up in the vet's office and, like, all the windows in
the basement are just, like, completely covered in mobs.
You're like, Oh yeah, he knows. Yeah, Now, OK, in this moment,

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are we supposed to start making connections back to a certain
virgin, what's her name? Caitlin.
Heather. Heather.
Yeah, Heather with with the darkness covering the windows.
No, I don't think so. Not like, specifically because
the moths were present in DoctorHilliard's death.

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Yes. Too.
And like it's very much like thebirds coming at the window.
Yeah, it's like it's, it's just very, it's very much like a
creature atmospheric vibe. Yeah, OK.
OK, But yeah, Doctor Deaton is in fact a healer.
He's a veterinarian and heals lots of creatures.
He is, so I wonder if I wonder if it took Deaton specifically

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because he's a main character orbecause of the connection to
Scott. Well, because it's ramping up,
right? Yeah.
She's like the, the the rock is getting closer because it was
Heather, but like Heather's likeconnected but kind of
tangential. And then it was Mr. Harris.
And Mr. Harris is like connected, but like kind of
tangential. Yeah.
And now we've got Deaton, who's like, not quite as tangential.

(28:53):
Yeah, I was one because like thetwo doctors are are like the
same place, same time, right? Like 2 easy catches Yeah kind of
the same place you don't want ina car but like similar vibe but
Deaton does not. Know but as we move through the
the this episode we start to getanswers, which is the coolest

(29:14):
thing. I love when they give us
answers. Give answers.
Well, first we have to get back to the hail pack.
Yeah, we do. And Boyd and Isaac, our our boys
have showed up. I love that even before he sees
them, Derek's like, go back to school.
He can just obviously smell them.
Yeah. And they're like, we're here to
protect you, my boys. I love you.

(29:38):
My boys, I. Love them so much.
But they've got a plan because they know that bad stuff is
coming for Derek at the loft. And I guess instead of fleeing
the loft, Derek's just going to,like, stand his ground.
He could, yeah, he could go somewhere else.
But no, he's going to be there. And what they're going to do is
Boyd remembers the the electricity that was used on him

(30:00):
and Erica to keep them from transforming.
So they're going to do that on amuch bigger scale at the loft by
flooding the floor. By flooding the penthouse loft.
I don't even know how that works.
Like how did the water not leak out somewhere?
I don't. We're just not going to ask

(30:20):
questions, we're just going to drive.
The loft is the smartest person in the room and just let it
happen. Did he buy the loft or is he
renting it? Because if he's renting it, he
is not getting his security deposit back.
Well, Fannin says that he bought.
The loans, the whole building. But I don't know if that's
Canon. I don't know either because
like, damn. Good thing he has carpets.

(30:43):
No, he has no carpets. It's all concrete.
It's all concrete, which is porous.
The only creature comfort he hasis that like, velvet couch that
Peter likes. That's right.
Which, unless he moved, is ruined now.
Ruined. So I would like to point out
that Vernon Boyd is the one to drop Erica's name and he is the
only one who is allowed to say no.

(31:05):
Boyd is the only one allowed to say Erica's name.
Fight me. Sweet baby, that's his girl.
That's his girl, that's his bestie.
I only had one friend. She's dead too, like.
I hate it so much. Yeah, same, same, same.
It's fine. They're fine.
They're they're all studying andstudying abroad.
They're in France. I know.
Eating Croissal. Croissal I love.

(31:29):
Just as an aside, I love all thesocial media posts that go
around sometimes about whether or not Americans should be
pronouncing croissants as croissants or croissants when
they order them. Do you know how stupid you sound
when you go into a bakery? You're like, yeah, I'd like a
cup of coffee and a croissal. A cup of coffee and a croissant.
Like sorry Parisians, but like, it's our accent.
I can't help you. Like it's the it's the, it's the

(31:50):
$0.50 fiddy cent conversation. If you just pronounce the IT
like the number 50. If you pronounce it 50, it's
$0.50. If you pronounce it fiddy, then
it's fiddy cent. Yep.
Like it's just that's no, it's just, it's your accent.
It's just it like. It's your dialect, it's your
accent. It's a word.

(32:12):
Try try your best. No one's expecting you to come
to the United States and, like, order a cheeseburger in an
American accent. If you're from another country
like it's OK, you can. You can pronounce cheeseburger
in a French accent, and yeah, however you want to do that like
it's fine, Mac. Dough.
Yeah, it's fine. It's it's fine.
That's that's how you talk. It's OK.

(32:34):
Anyway, for some reason those were served to me on the
algorithm this week and been thinking about it.
Yeah, it comes around every couple months.
I don't know why. It's probably because America
and France continues to hate each other.
Yeah, well, they do make a darn good pastry.
They do OK, so we probably can'tstick with the loft because
other stuff has to happen. Yeah, other stuff has to happen,

(32:58):
but Scott like after school, like runs over to Deaton and
like tries desperately to get there in time and he is too
late. He.
Is too late. But Sheriff is there and like
trying to figure it all out. And so Scott and the sheriff.
Is there? Because Styles has told the
sheriff, Yeah. Like, hey, which you left like
styles, let me know what's goingon, which is like.

(33:20):
At that point shouldn't the sheriff be like, why do you know
Deaton is missing? He probably does and will
question him later, but right now there's a man missing.
So like, you know, this is a tomorrow problem, but Scott and
Styles have to have their first kind of like confrontation or
like do we tell the sheriff likeand Styles point is that

(33:44):
basically he is my weakness. I can't lose both my father's.
I like I can't live with my parents.
Like I know that Deaton is like a father figure to you, but this
is my actual father. Like I don't I can't lose both
my parents. I can't.
And I really like that, yeah. And Scott's point is like, he's
going to the reason he's so frustrated and the reason he

(34:04):
doesn't know what's going on is because he doesn't have half the
picture. He doesn't know what's going on.
And if we give him this information, he's going to be so
much more able to do his job. And like the both of them make
really good points and they are trying so hard and they're so
empathetic with each other. And then Styles ends the

(34:26):
argument in the same way that I end most of my argument humans
with my husband, which is you'reright.
I know that you're right, I'm mad that you're right, but I
know that you're right and we have to do it.
Yep, God damn it, you're right. I know that you're right, I'm
mad, I'm mad, but I know that you're right and I know that you
want what's best for us. And I know that you want, you

(34:47):
know, like etcetera. And Scott is like, I'm going to
be with you the entire time we got this.
And like I just it's moments like this where Scott and styles
together forever Besties 5 ever.Are they brothers?
Are they lovers? Are they roommates?
I don't care. I just love, I love them so much
and I love them together and I just, they're so special.
As long as they're working together.

(35:08):
As long as they're working together.
Yep. So.
Not working with them though, yeah.
Turns out Miss Morrell is there,my brother.
Like OK. She annoys me sometimes.
And just like her brother, proceeds to drop like some
cryptic hints I know. Just tell them what they need to
know. Just tell them.

(35:28):
But what she says is you're going to need Lydia.
To do what she's like, you're going to need someone with a
penchant for finding supernatural creatures.
And I'm like, Lydia doesn't findsupernatural creatures.
What are you talking about? Yeah, they're the ones who are
like, I guess we need Lydia. I guess it's Lydia question Mark
and you know, Emily, Where, where might you find Lydia

(35:48):
Martin on like a regular school day?
Well, it turns out you're going to find her in some sort of
locked office making out with Aiden.
Isn't this like coach's office? Isn't this the office that she
goes in to make out with every boy I.
Think it is. Yeah, This is just her office
now. This is her make out session.
It's just her office. Yeah, I think the front of it
now, says Lydia's room. Yeah, Lydia Martin's office.

(36:12):
Please don't. Do not disturb.
Do not disturb. She's the only one with a key
now. Correct.
Yeah, but unfortunately the firealarm goes off, breaking up
their their time and it's. But Aiden doesn't care.
He's like, yeah, and. Yes, and he could probably smell
a fire though. Yeah, he could.

(36:33):
So I guess that's one thing. Yeah, he definitely could.
But it's it's because Cora has pulled the fire alarm to get
Aiden away from Lydia. Because.
Like Lydia tries to leave the office and Cora's like because
Cora comes to confront Lydia. And yet again, my little shipper
heart who should know that Cora and Lydia are just like right

(36:56):
here for my for my viewing. I forgot they have not
interacted like this entire season.
No, I don't. Does Lydia know who this is?
I don't think so. Yeah, because Lydia's are like,
Derek would like you to stop seeing Aiden or Aiden, whatever
the order of Aiden and does in that moment I was like, has
Lydia met Cora? Does she know who this random

(37:19):
person is? I.
Don't know, It's like you don't have very good taste in guys, do
you? I'm like, yeah, 'cause her taste
should be you. Fair I'm.
Like hello. And like, Cora and Lydia are
like fucking danger flirting. You know I'm gonna rip your
tongue out of your mouth. It's like sweetheart.
With. Your mouth, sweetheart.

(37:39):
Derogatory. Yeah, dangerously, it's.
Like, all right, ladies. OK, here we go.
Yeah, Stiles is the one who has to break that up.
I think he's a little turned on by the whole situation.
They can all just go into the into Lydia's office.
It's fine. Yeah.
Just close that door right behind you.
Just. Close that door.
It's fine. It's fine.
Instead, they have to try to contact the supernatural via a

(38:02):
variety of different. Ways and Lydia is still like
she's there. She's willing to give it a try,
yes, but she's like, I don't know what the fuck you're doing.
And Cora is just like in completed utter disbelief.
She's like the fuck is happeninghere.
She, Cora, has not been witness to any of the Teen Wolf
shenanigans yet, so she she has been off doing whatever the fuck

(38:24):
she's been doing, probably living fairly out in the
wilderness. South America.
Yeah, so you know, watching 2 idiots try to commune via Ouija
board. Yeah.
Is not high on her list of things she wants to do.
Absolutely not. She is not.
She's not having it. She's not having it.
Did you ever fuck around with the Ouija board?
No. Yeah, me neither.

(38:46):
No, not a not a thing. Yeah, I ever did.
Never. Did, but would you?
Sure. Yeah, it doesn't really.
It doesn't really. I'm certainly not gonna go
purchase one. No, but I'd rather find one in
the wall. That's some Jumanji ass shit.
We don't mess with that. But I'm not going to play
Jumanji. I'm not stupid.

(39:07):
I'm. Not stupid.
I'll play with a Ouija board. I'm not going to play Jumanji.
Correct. But we do get some really great
like Lydia quotes here that we really kind of click on to
because in season 3, we're really starting to kind of
figure out that like she kind ofhas something she can kind of

(39:28):
hear her stuff, but she kind of shows up places.
And so she's like constantly trying to learn and see and kind
of figure out what her what her role is in this like
supernatural salad that they've got going on.
And Lydia's, I'm not a psychic in styles.
You're something. You're yeah, you're something OK
in his frustration. Yes.

(39:50):
Psychic. No.
She is something. Yeah, and finally, Styles gives
her a pencil for some automatic writing and she draws a tree.
She draws a tree. She draws a tree again.
She draws a tree, I know. Meanwhile we have ignore her.
We have Dukelian and Scott. Just like meeting and fighting I

(40:10):
guess. Yeah, also what is the security
level on this high school that this random ass dude can just
walk into this place? Not very high.
It's not very high I. Don't.
I don't know. It's 2013 so maybe, I don't
know, were high schools locking up in 2013 or is that did that
come later? Probably, but maybe it's because

(40:31):
he's a werewolf. Maybe, yeah.
But yeah, so he he, you know, offers rather than offers, I
guess, Scott, that he will tell him where Deaton is, but only if
he can take the cane away. So that's cool.
And Scott tries. He tries real hard.
He knows he can't win this fight.
Maybe he knows that. Do you think he knows or do you
think he's got a chance? Do you think he thinks he has a

(40:52):
chance? I think he thinks he has a
chance. OK, sweet, sweet Scott.
He believes in himself and I also believe in him.
I just don't believe in Duqualian.
No, that guy's a piece of shit. Yeah, he didn't.
He also tells Scott that he's going to have to choose between
Derek or Deaton, which Derek obviously, and he gives another

(41:14):
cryptic let the current guide you.
Like what? What?
Why? If you know what's going on, why
don't you stop it? Yeah, why don't you fix it?
Like, that's a question I'm going to have in a few episodes.
Honest. Really, really seriously have in
a few episodes. OK, Yeah.
Like if Deukalian knows where the sacrifice is being held,

(41:38):
maybe it is in Deukalian's best interest to interrupt the ritual
question mark. Right.
Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
Maybe you don't want all this tobe happening also, yeah.
Maybe you also don't want this to be happening.
I mean often villains, bad guys,foils, they don't want to do the
hard work themselves. No.

(42:00):
They want to get. That in the beginning of the
season when he kills Brayden, yeah.
Like the best way to get rid of someone is to have somebody else
do it for you. Yeah, totally.
Like just back. Stupid, I guess.
It's not stupid. It's smart of him to get someone
else to do it for him. It's really, really smart of
Tequilian. It's just like, come on guys,
let's go. It's just that they keep
falling. For it they do every time.

(42:21):
They are children, they're 1718 years old like, and they've only
been at this for a year. Yeah.
And maybe, maybe. Yeah, so you know, back at the
hospital, Melissa is also tryingto figure some shit out and she
is talking to the sheriff because they are also crime
fighting buddies. And a little bit flirty and a.
Little bit of flirty. I think this is really where I

(42:43):
really started to settle into mylike Mama and Papa.
Sting McCall. So you can't combine the last
name. Stolinski.
McCall. McCall Stolinski.
It's too many syllables. Mick Stolinski.
Mick Stolinski. I guess, yeah, I don't know.
But yeah, so asking if the dead doctor had ligature marks around

(43:05):
her throat because they were suffocated but not strangled
like the other sacrifices. And she thinks she knows how the
doctors died because they had deep cuts, indentations on their
wrists as if they were hanging by their wrists, which if you're
hanging by, like, hanging from your arms, your wrist for a

(43:27):
prolonged period of time withoutbeing able to stand, it can be
very hard to breathe. So they basically suffocated
without being strangled. Yeah.
So don't do that. Don't do that.
Which flashes to a scene of Deaton hanging by ropes in a
unknown location, having that exact same thing happen to him.

(43:48):
Rat Row. Oh, buddy, were you worried
about Deaton? Did you have a moment during
this episode where you're like, Deaton might die?
I think I did the first time I watched it.
Yeah, I think I did the first time.
OK. They set that up really nicely.
Yeah. Because Deaton is like the first
character who we actually kind of know and like, 'cause like we

(44:11):
got to know Heather just a little bit.
We got to kind of know Caitlin alittle bit and we got to like,
you know, etcetera, etcetera. And we knew Harrison hated his
guts, but Deaton is the first one that like is going to hurt
so. Because it takes another figure
away from Scott. Yeah, they don't, But they could
have. They could have.
Yeah, well, Scott still has Allison because he gets a text

(44:34):
from her that she's got something to show him, which
turns out to be two things. One a black light and a map of
Beacon Hills, but also a little bit of cute flirty sexy time in
a closet. Yeah, very small closet.
Let me show you my very small closet.
Let. Me just get locked in this
closet for a hot 2nd and make some Dick jokes in here.

(44:55):
Hello. Yeah, I appreciate it.
I mean, I thought it was. That was cute.
Yeah, it's at. Least you always find a way to
make like mildly inappropriate jokes on a kid show.
Yeah, they do a teen show. It's fantastic.
Yeah, So what she has found in Chris's office is a map of

(45:16):
Beacon Hills with markings that are only visible in blacklight.
That show you might have to helpme here the locations of the
sacrifices and the locations of the body dumps.
Where does? That come later.
It's the locations of where theyget where the bodies get picked
up. The.
Locations where the bodies get found.

(45:38):
There we go Body, yes, where they get yes, people go missing,
people get found. Yeah.
OK, and there are So far there have been 6 sacrifices, but
there are 12 markings on the map.
Yep. And Allison thinks that her dad
knows where the next bodies are gonna be found.
Yep. Yikes.
Which is super helpful. Thank you Daddy, for that work
that you've been putting in. Thanks Daddy Arjun for doing all

(45:59):
this background work for us. Indeed, Speaking of doing
background work, Styles decides that he needs to accost Danny
while he is in recovery in the hospital.
Yep. I mean, he's going to have to,
yeah. He's going to have to.
So he like Styles, sneaks into Danny's room and is like going
through his bag and Danny wakes up and sounds like no no no,

(46:22):
you're dreaming and proceeds to get incrementally sassier with
him. He's just.
Like mad at Danny for not believing him.
Yeah, it's a funny thing to do in a dream.
What, Danny? It's your dream, take
responsibility for it. Asshole.
One of my favorite lines of the episode.
I think he's just like back talking someone coming out of
surgery or whatever he was doing.

(46:43):
Jerkface. But what he does find in Danny's
backpack is a paper for physics class that he was doing on
Telluric. Currents.
Is this what you were doing in high school physics?
Absolutely not. But I didn't take physics, I
took advanced biology. I had to take a physics class.
We were not writing papers. We took like bubble tests, you

(47:05):
know what I mean? Like you fill out ABC or D?
Definitely like a junior year college.
Yeah. 300 level physics class. I had to like put the well I
have I watch it was closed captions anyway, but I was like
telluric currents, what are we talking about?
Magnetic occurrence. They're magnetic occurrence.
Yeah, I was like. What were we?

(47:27):
Doing in physics class, it was not this, it was calculating
like velocity, yeah. Can I so?
You Danny, right? Yeah.
Like dropping eggs from the roof.
Like, good for you, Danny, you smart fuck.
But this paper was assigned to him by Mr. Harris, so we don't
like that. No, absolutely not.
Well, it was a sign, but we we come back to it that maybe we

(47:49):
just keep with this 'cause we can come back to the loft.
Yeah. So they're looking into this
assignment and it's this projectabout telluric currents, which
you said are magnetic currents. Yeah, that can be affected by
lunar phases. Is that not so apartment for
this fucking town? Fantastic.
Yeah, 'cause it's, it's, it's basically the, the, the, the non

(48:13):
hail. It's the McCall pack basically
that is at the table right now. So it's Styles, Scott, Lydia and
Cora. Yeah, it's the four of them.
Yeah, I had to Google it. I was like, is this a real
thing? It's a real thing, Yeah.
So like, I've never heard of this.
It's definitely a real thing. And it's an electric current
that flows underground or through the sea, resulting in

(48:36):
natural and human induced causes, extremely low frequency
and traverse large areas near orat the Earth's surface.
And they move between sunlit andshadowed sides of the Earth.
And then it was like, what did it say?
Toward the equator on the side of the Earth facing the sun,
towards the pole, towards the poles on the night side of the

(48:59):
planet. So they like flow I guess.
So they're electric currents? Yeah, I guess, yeah.
Electric current, yeah. So it's an electric current?
Electric current. Yeah.
Oh, and when I looked at it, maybe I'll post it, I don't
know. There's a a website called Vastu
Energetics which I'm a little afraid to click on because I

(49:20):
might end up in a cult, but the image of it is like it.
It's like the shape of a a big tree.
Yeah. And I was like, oh, right, I see
what's happening here. That's a cult.
It's a cult and also it's a big tree.
Science Cult. Science cult.
So apparently Harris. So this is a paper for physics?
And aren't these kids in the physics class too?

(49:41):
And aren't they supposed to be writing a paper?
No, they're in chemistry. They're in chemistry, That's
right. So Harris told Danny to like,
choose another subject, and theydeduce that that's because
Harris wasn't just a sacrifice, but that he knew something was.
Which confirms something. So when you find Harris, like,

(50:03):
like, he's in the rain, he's been kidnapped, you know, he's
pleading with whoever's about tokill him.
Like, I did everything you askedfor.
I helped you. So he was throwing people off
the scent or he was researching.Doing something he was once
again assisting the bad guy. 'Cause he's a piece of shit.

(50:23):
Once again, yeah. 'Cause he sucks, Mr. Harris
sucks. Mr. Harris sucks.
So Danny on his map had marked all of the tiller currents and
styles is like Beacon Hills is actually a beacon like thank
you. It's called the Hellmouth.
I believe it. That's.
What I wrote, I was like, so you're saying it's an actual

(50:44):
hellmouth, which we all knew from Season 1?
Yes, we all, we all knew that. Thank you.
Thank you. Thank you for confirming it's a
literal hellmouth trademark. Buffy the Vampire Slayer.
Correct. So they combine the two maps,
Danny's map and Chris's map to line up the body dumps and the
energy spots. The hell mounts the.

(51:06):
The little tiny hell mounts the.Currents.
The currents and they bought a boom.
Bing bought a boom. Cora is like, Oh no, Deaton is
in the same bank vault that we were in.
Can you imagine what Cora is going through in that moment?
Yeah, no, I can't because I've never been kidnapped.
But also like, oh, we were in a place for a specific reason.

(51:30):
Yeah, we were in this specific place for this specific reason.
It's it's it's episodes like this and moments like this when
I have to wonder, did Cora know Erica?
Did Cora meet Erica? Right.
Maybe. Like, and this kind of, this

(51:51):
starts to bubble here, especially like with what
happens to Boyd. But that thread kind of moves
through the rest of the season as Cora gets angrier and angrier
and angrier. Right.
About like, you know, you know, we get that in the beginning of
the season. It's like, you know, I heard the
hail. The Hail Alpha was back, and
it's you. Yeah, she was not happy about.

(52:11):
That like you. This idiot.
Yeah, like, yeah, fucking loser.But yeah.
So Cora deduces she figures it out on the map, the deatons
being held in the bank vault. Yep, at least they know where it
is this time, yes? They do, but at that moment Cora
gets a text from Boyd to say that the alphas are here.

(52:33):
OK and just a quick aside she gets a text from Boyd and and at
the end she runs to Boyd. Like where was more of their
friendship? Yep.
But like we missing a whole kit and caboodle here of them.
Because Cora and Boyd had a relationship of some kind.
Now whether again, whether they were lovers or siblings or

(52:54):
roommates, I don't know, but something they very clearly they
went through a traumatic experience together and they
have stayed close. Yes.
Throughout this process like. I was real mad about that
because like. And.
I had really forgotten that. Yeah.
Because it's not like it's picked up later in the series

(53:15):
because he's gone. Yeah.
It's not like they, hey, remember how Boyd and I like,
they just don't talk about it. So you're sitting there like,
what? What?
What were they doing? How close were they?
Were they, how close were they crime fighting friends?
Like, Yeah. How many missing scenes of Cord,

(53:36):
Cora and Boyd were there? A lot, I'm sure.
Anyway, so now that we have thattext, we have to go back.
Oh, wait, no, I guess we can stay and finish that.
Scott in that moment is like, oh, Dekalian told me this, that
I have to choose between helpingDerek or helping Deaton.
Yeah. And Scott tells the gang to go

(54:00):
to the loft and he is going to go save Deaton himself.
Yep. So that is the split in
responsibilities. So do you want to go to the
vault or do you want to go to the loft?
I think we can go to the vault. Cool.
Because nothing in the Yeah, nothing in the vault happens at

(54:22):
the loft. All the loft stuff happens kind
of on its own at this point. Yeah, OK, so Scott, who doesn't
wolf run, he gets on his bike? Yeah, Broom, Broom.
And I was like, why don't you wolf run?
Isn't that faster? He's got he's got a motorcycle
now. It's faster than his little foot
bike. I guess I'd like to see that
race like which one is faster, motorcycle or wolf run?

(54:47):
Season 1 Wolf run or Season 3 Wolf run?
Season 3 wolf run like he's got new powers.
You don't want to do like the pony, the Light, Doom, Doom,
Doom. No, I want the twilight run, the
speed up, twilight run through the forest.
My God, yes. Incredible.
Outstanding. So Scott finds Deaton hanging
from his wrists in the vault. RIP.

(55:09):
And he's like, I'm going to get him and he runs right O Deaton
and then just gets blasted back by a circle of mountain ash.
So like I have questions. My boy did not even look.
He did not. He did not look.
He was very single minded with his purpose, but like, Can you
imagine how much faster this would have gone if it was going

(55:31):
to be like, OK guys, let's all go get Deaton.
And then like, you know, got a lot over to the loft.
Like if Styles or Lydia had justlike been there and was like
whoosh. Yeah, like if he had not tried
to do things by himself. Like if he had sought the, the,
the, the the team, then I, I just, I don't know.
But I also was like, Scott, can you not like blow the ash?

(55:55):
Yes. Is it impervious to your?
To your breath? I so many questions.
I have so many questions about the properties about mash.
I just don't understand because.Who what episode was it at the
at the the place? Didn't someone like wave their
hand over it and like blow the? Styles did Oh.
That was styles. Yeah, it was styles.

(56:16):
I thought one of the the bad wolves did something to break
the the ring. No, because in the vault, the
first time it was Allison, it was.
Allison And then it was Misses Morel.
Yeah, it. Was misses.
Morel who broke the ring. So it's like the the wolves, I
don't know if they can't, but they haven't.
So, yeah, but Scott. Maybe they can't at all.

(56:39):
That would. That would make more sense, but
the physics are questionable. But I'm just like telling me.
More so, Scott gets bounced backby the mountain ash and he's
like I will not be deterred. This is my father figure and
does it again. And like, I'm very proud of his
determination because he again, believes in himself.

(57:03):
He's like, this is the only option I have.
We're going to figure it out. And so he's like pushing and
pushing and pushing, and the whole screen goes purple.
And then we stare at his face and he's going like, I'm going
to get it. And his eyes glow bright gold.
And he's like, I'm going to get it.
And then slowly, they turn bright red.

(57:23):
I had a moment where I thought he might do it young at me too.
Breakthrough. And I wonder if he had tried
again before the sheriff broke in, if he could have, Yeah.
But Deaton also sees his eyes gored.
Yes, he does. So interesting.

(57:44):
Yeah, and so then the sheriff busts in and sees Scott trying
to trying to get in. And I, I have like the sheriff
has, he doesn't know at this point, but he's got to be asking
questions like why didn't Scott just walk in and do it?
Why is this? This is a fucking circle of
dirt. Why are you like, what's the
matter dude? And surely he walked in after

(58:07):
Scott bounced back. He didn't see Scott trying to to
push through. Yeah, he must not have, because
again, instead of he must think that it's like dangerous, like
it's like gunpowder or something.
Because instead of walking up toDeaton and like cutting him down
or like getting him a chair, he decides to sharpshooter it from

(58:30):
the vault door and shoot throughthe rope.
Yep. Incredibly badass, but
definitely not the not my first move, certainly.
Not, yeah, not the preferred method of shooting at something,
yeah. 'Cause then he just plumps to
the floor. Now again, my question doesn't

(58:50):
Scott like immediately run over to Deaton after he's plumped on
the floor? Is this the Nash not count
anymore? Maybe when he when he flumped
onto the floor, did he like break the circle?
Yeah, maybe, Maybe the the whoosh of air of him flumping
broke the circle just enough. Perhaps.
Let's go with that. But it doesn't matter because

(59:11):
he's been saved. Yay.
And so the sheriff and Deaton and Scott are all kind of like
on the back wall of the vault and sheriff has like taking care
of it. And the sheriff figured it out.
He didn't get any supernatural assistance.
He saw that the Celtic symbol onthe like the the herb bottle

(59:37):
that Deaton had left on the counter was the same symbol as
the bank vault. Did Deaton know he was going to
the bank vault? He leave that clue.
And if so, why the hell didn't he tell Scott?
Yeah. Maybe he didn't know and and it

(59:57):
really was just the. Good detective work.
Yeah, maybe because, like, the sheriff is a great detective.
He is a great detective. But yeah, there's a.
Whole yeah, maybe it was just simply good detective work and
he didn't know because the map had multiple locations where
bodies could be found. So maybe he maybe there were too

(01:00:17):
many options to tell Scott, likeI could be here, here, here,
here. Right.
And he didn't know which one. Yeah, maybe.
I don't know. Curiosity Pony.
The curiosity pony going to takeher out for a trot, but so that
like we're going to backtrack into the episode could be S to
go to the loft. But it ends the episode with

(01:00:39):
Deaton talking to Scott about like the sheriff leaves to call
an ambulance. And all of a sudden Deaton's
like professional hat, just likeflies off of his head.
And he goes, you guys were bright red.
They were bright red. And so starts talking about that
like it's very rare. Maybe once in 100 years a beta
can rise to the rank of alpha, you know, without stealing the

(01:01:02):
powers purely on the strength ofcharacter.
And so we have to believe that Scott is a chosen 1 in this
moment. He's a special boy, so and like
he. Is a special boy, but like, come
on guys. OK.
Now I can't remember if we talked about this off mic or on
mic. It was off mic, right?
Yeah, this, this special boy plot lines I'm just so tired of

(01:01:25):
like. And this isn't to say that Scott
isn't a special boy. I like Scott, but like Scott,
this is. This just feels like a Deus Ex
machina. This feels like yeah it I.
I know, yes, like just like why can't he?
The point of him in the first season, like you were saying

(01:01:48):
before, is that he's not a special boy.
He is a normal 16 year old who stumbles into extraordinary
circumstances and has to deal with it.
And has to deal now. Now that he's like a a chosen 1
special boy. Like, I just, I get it.
I also think that Scott is very strong of character.

(01:02:10):
He's, you know. Yeah.
He's a he's a good kid and I like him a lot, but like this
just doesn't this just doesn't sit right with me.
I. Don't like it?
You can be strong of character without being special boy.
Yeah, and also gigantic spoiler alert.
Once in 100 years, my ass. This happens again in the movie.

(01:02:31):
My God. Like are you giving me right
now? Are you like, just like Deaton?
You know Deaton believed you've you've believed me from the
beginning, like I believed in you.
But so does Deukalian. Yeah, so it turns out Deukalian
is not after Derek, he is after Scott.
And he has been after Scott the whole time.

(01:02:52):
Yeah, he's just going to ruin Derek's life to get there.
Correct. He's just fucking with Derek for
fun. Why?
We'll get there in a hot minute because we have to go back to
the loft. Yeah, we'll get there in a hot
minute, but we have to go back to the loft and I I think we end
up getting more of Deukalian's back story the next episode, but
like. Yeah, well, yeah, because at the

(01:03:13):
very, very end they ask Gerard what's up with Deukalian, so we
have to get more of his back story.
Yeah, and. I don't care about your fucking
back story, weirdo. I mean, I do, but only because I
really like that actor and it's fun to watch him like you.
Know yes, it's. Very.
It's pretty great. The demon wolf.
How bad Wolf? It's incredibly fun to watch
villains, and that's why we lovethem.

(01:03:34):
Yes, I just sometimes you're like, what is your fucking
motivation? What are you?
All right, go after Scott, but why are you ruining Derek's life
to do it? Like is that getting to Scott at
all or is it just hurting Derek?Yeah, because like, Derek
doesn't like, you know, hate Scott, but he they're not,
they're not especially not this season.

(01:03:55):
They're not especially not this season.
They're not biffles like there are better ways to get to Scott.
Yeah. Fuck with Stiles, fuck with
Allison, fuck with the fuck withthe urgents.
Like, come on, guys. Yeah, you want to hurt Scott,
You got to hurt Allison. Yeah, Get you know, Stiles
finally, like hurt, hurt Chris like hurt the sheriff like get

(01:04:16):
and in this way like you can. But no, he just decides to wreck
Derek for reasons. Poor thing.
But we have to go back to the loft and we we do this really
beautiful shot of Derek and his like very sexy red eyed alpha
look and with two betas behind him.
Boy and Isaac the Hell Pack evershrinking and about to get

(01:04:39):
smaller. It's so bad.
I'm really upset about it. You know, they what they are
doing is they have electrified the water so that when Kali
walks in, she steps into electricity to dewolf her to
make her vulnerable for a minute.
Yeah, except someone has cut theauxiliary power.

(01:05:02):
How would the alpha pack know how to like?
Why would they know to do this? I don't know.
It's like they knew their plan. Yeah, I don't know.
They're smart, they're clever, they're bad guys.
They get like +6 Wisdom just on all roles.
I don't know they do so that that plan is shot a Derek steps
into the water, which I was like, hold on.
He's you, Sir. So the the electricity is

(01:05:24):
useless and they're and his homeis ruined.
Yes, both of them. The betas are true.
The betas are like, what do we do?
Derek's like we fight. Kali shows up to monologue.
Lil Miss toenails. Almost toenails, mocking him for
surrounding himself with teenagers, as if he's not barely
a teenager himself. Correct.
Like, yeah, yeah, hecklin's got the beard, but canonically, he's

(01:05:46):
a teenager. And I refute everyone on Reddit
who's like, he's so old, he's not shut up.
No, he's at best he's like 23. Like We Live and die by pilot
episode Derek Hale age. Pretty much, yeah.
So that's what we go by because it was in the show.
Because it was in the film. It's cannon.
It's Cannon, so sorry, but then the twins show up with Jennifer

(01:06:08):
Blake. And my, my question, my
curiosity pony question that we'll talk about again in a few
episodes because all of this cannon comes back around.
Yes. Just like Dukalian could have
interrupted the ritual and like fucked with Deaton or whatever.

(01:06:28):
Does Callie not recognize Jennifer Blake?
I guess. Is Jennifer Blake just like a
total stranger to Collie? Like how did she know about like
are they just plot armor? I plot armor.
It's got to be fucking plot armor.
Like I don't understand because I do believe that that gets

(01:06:49):
retconned later. I don't know if we actually get
a real answer to this. Yeah, I think that's, I think
that's some plot mismanagement. That's it's just it's wild, but
Kali apparently does not recognize Jennifer.
And Kali is like, you got a pickbetween the between, you know,
between this woman and you obeyed us.
And I'm so upset because Boyd and Isaac immediately are like,

(01:07:11):
hi, OK, bye. I know they don't even give
Derek the chance to answer. They just walk away and I'm
like, I know. Yeah it's so stupid.
Also he's known Jennifer for like 2 weeks.
Seriously, it's the Roman Julietproblem.
Guys, this semester hasn't even hit midterms yet.
You're not even back to lacrosse, he said.

(01:07:33):
You don't have to pick this woman you don't know.
Her. You don't know her.
It's OK you not to be like you can let someone die but like you
don't know her. Like maybe the sex is good, sex
will still be good later. Protect your betas, Protect
your. Betas my dude, This is why
people online don't like you. But he does get to repeat.
I am going to rip your throat out with my teeth.

(01:07:54):
Which is always a good time. I was a fan.
We we flashed to Styles, Lydia and Cora in the car going to
Derek and Boyd and Isaac and like Styles and Lydia are
sharing some very poignant looksin this car that I did not catch
the first time around. Yes, yes, I.
Start looking at each other in ways that I appreciate.
Yes, Yep. And Jennifer is screaming and

(01:08:15):
having a lot of fucking feelings.
She's having a lot of feelings. And Kali proceeds to just
completely kick Derek's ass. Again, OK, now were you bored by
this fight? Because I was like, I've seen
this three or four Times Now. I, in fact, was quite bored by
it. I was just like, and now you're
fighting and come on, let's go. And I was like, oh, slashy with

(01:08:38):
the toes. And it's dark.
I I'm so bored. I've seen this fight in the last
several episodes. I don't care.
Derek's not going to win becauseno one beats.
Holly, they could change the color.
They could change the color, it could have been a red fight,
that kind. Of red fight because we've
already seen 2 blue fights. Yes, there have been 2 blue
fights. 2 blue toe versus like claw fights.

(01:09:02):
Like the last time collie and Derek met in the in the loft he
she stabbed him with a pipe. Like I just come on, dude.
Yeah, I was like, I don't. It's not that it's not well shot
or whatever. I was just like, I've seen it.
I'm good. I'm bored.
Yeah, I really, I not to say that they're bored or like that

(01:09:22):
they're not well done or poorly choreographed or poorly shot or
anything, but like I just don't find fight scenes entertaining.
Fair. Like unless they drive the plot,
I don't care. When this one was also, it felt
predetermined. Yeah, and for me, so did the
Dukeelian Scott one earlier in the episode.
Yeah, totally. Like you knew he wasn't going to

(01:09:42):
win. You know he's not going to win.
Like stop it and. They're also not going to kill
Scott, so like, OK. He's the Teen Wolf.
You can't kill Scott. There's no stakes here.
Yeah, exactly. There's no stakes like.
Well, we get steaks. We do, we do.
We do get steaks. So Styles, Lydia and Cora
finally get to the loft and theyjust start like, pulling all the

(01:10:05):
electricity back on. They just like, push all the
buttons. Cora's just like push every
button. And they're like Oakley Dokley.
Yeah, somehow that doesn't kill everything.
It manages to turn the electricity back on.
Yeah, which electrifies the water.
Kelly and Derek go down. Somehow Boyd gets thrown into
the water. I kind of missed how that

(01:10:25):
happened, but. Like so Isaac goes up to
Jennifer. He.
Grabs Jennifer because what happens to the twins?
Because the twins go down. So like kind of in a big round
Robin in which everyone decides to move at the same time, Collie
and Derek go down. I think Boyd understands that

(01:10:50):
the electricity has gone back on.
And so in theory, that means that Collie is now weak and Boyd
is going to help Derek take her down.
Isaac moves up to save Jennifer,while the twins go down to help
Collie. I think that's the thought
process behind this very dark scene in which everyone is

(01:11:14):
running and ends up at a different place.
Yeah, 'cause all of a sudden everyone just shifted and I was
like. Whoa, whoa.
And so like, dude, I don't know if this was like anybody's plan
in particular or if like they'rejust all mind melded in the
Alpha Pack, but instead of the twins attacking Derek or the

(01:11:35):
twins assisting Collie, the twins, Boyd.
Yeah. No, no, sorry.
The twins grab Derek and they like grab his arms and then
Collie grabs Boyd and just like politely deposits him on Derek's
open claws. Yeah, for absolutely no reason.

(01:11:56):
For absolutely no reason. Boyd being fucking sacrificed on
his alpha's claws. I hate everything, everything,
everything about this. I hate the scene so much.
Like there, there's absolutely no point to this.
There's absolutely no point to this now.
It's just cruel. Just cruel.
And now I will say that everybody's acting in this scene
is spot on. The performers deserve like lots

(01:12:18):
of claps and applause and snuggles and snacks but like the
fuck was this? The acting is phenomenal.
Boyd's, you know, is the one thing about like, it's OK, Derek
and the full moon, that feeling it was worth it.
And I was like, and you should have so many more of those.
And you should have so many moreof those.
And you will on your study abroad trip to France with
Erica. With Erica, Isaac will join you.

(01:12:40):
You'll come back to Beacon Hillsonce you've eat, pray, loved.
And so because, and like this isa thing that hit me like a brick
the first time I watched this. And I don't know if it's just
like the the creator from on high filling us in or if we're
supposed to be kind of followingcharacters at this point.

(01:13:01):
So Kali basically is like, I'm giving you to the next full moon
or I'm going to I'm going to kill you to like get wrecked.
And they, they just like leave. And so you're focused in on
Boyd, who is now dying, and Derek, who is like just holding
Boyd up with his hands and just like shaking.
And it's like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

(01:13:21):
no, no. And Boyd knows that he's dying
and is like trying his best. And so Boyd starts talking
about, you know, like you said, that full moon, that feeling it
was worth it, and then starts talking with a lunar eclipse.
And he flashes back to Erica in the.
Yep. Where Erica starts to wonder out
loud about the lunar eclipse. Yeah, and what happens to them

(01:13:44):
during a lunar eclipse? Maybe it'll make us stronger.
I hope it'll make us stronger and we learn basically that
Erica taunted Kali and Kali did not take kindly to it and Erica
fought Kali to the death. Yes.
And as Erica is laying on the vault floor dying, she reaches

(01:14:07):
out for Boyd. And as Boyd is dying in his
alpha's arms, his last thoughts are of Erica of.
Course they are. Of course they are.
Why did you introduce these two characters just to fucking kill
them? I'm I'm never giving you Jeff
Davis for this. I'm never forgiving you.
It's just it's just hurt like why are I don't understand?

(01:14:29):
Oh. My God, everything about this is
terrible. And so, while we're sitting and
like, feeling our fucking feelings about it, the humans
arrive upstairs. Yes.
And so we get so the scene as itlays out.
So the so Collie, Aiden and Ethan have now left.
Also, fuck them twins. Yeah, fuck fuck fuck y'all.

(01:14:50):
Isaac is on the floor with Jennifer to keep her safe, to
keep her contained in shock and awe.
They're just sitting on the floor.
Just break her neck while you'rethere.
Just be done. So then we get Cora, I think,
who hits the door first. Yes.
And sees sort of what's happening now.

(01:15:10):
My question is, did the power shoot out again because it's no
longer electrified? It has to be because something
had to have happened because I don't think they turned it off,
but maybe it just overloaded. Maybe because she runs right.
She like screams. When she sees Boyd and runs
right into the water, she screams.
And so it Cora is like at the door and Styles kind of hits the

(01:15:33):
door right next to her and then like Lydia kind of comes in
behind and so Cora screams and in a line Cora and Stiles run
into the water hords Boyd and Derek and Cora immediately
collapses on the ground next to Boyd.

(01:15:53):
Not her brother. Boyd.
Not her brother. Not her Alpha Boyd.
There's something we missed thatthey cut a whole thing out
there. That entire relationship is I
it, it's alive in my head. It's alive in my head.
Did Cora know Erica? Did Cora know of the alphas?
Did like tell me what their relationship was like?
Tell me were they a pack? Did like, did Boyd tell Cora

(01:16:18):
about Derek, about the fire? Like something happened,
Something happened. And so, as Cora has run to Boyd
and is completely ignoring her brother, Styles runs straight to
Derek. Yeah, he does.
And Derek's whole face this whole time has just been
completely shattered and broken apart because Derek is like

(01:16:40):
numb. Derek is like, I don't know what
just happened and it was all bad.
And Styles puts his hand on Derek's shoulder and just stands
behind him, like stands vigil, just like, connected to him and
behind him and like. It's exactly what he needed,
too. That's that's all you can do in

(01:17:00):
that moment. There's nothing that anyone
could say in that moment to makeit better.
It's all you can do in a moment like that is I'm here.
I'm right here next to you in the dark and I'm not going
anywhere. And that's what Stiles does.
And it just like, and they stay in that tableau for the entire
shot. They don't move.

(01:17:21):
Yeah, no, they don't move at all.
They just kind of pull back on the camera.
Yeah, they just pull back and Lydia is there with Jennifer and
Isaac as as basically as the hail pack kind of disintegrates
because. For no reason.
This is basically what's left ofthe hail pack.
Mine is Peter. Who is gone?
He's not in this episode. No, he's just poof.
He's. Just a little.

(01:17:42):
Relaxing vacation. Yeah, yeah.
Where's this fuck? What's he doing?
Yeah, so basically Derek went atthe beginning of season 2 trying
to build a pack cause the alphaswere coming to like it's gone
because Isaac technically is still Derek's, but like isn't.
And he's got core and he's got Peter and in my heart he's got

(01:18:04):
Styles, but Styles is definitelywith Scott.
But in in my heart and in the thick that I enjoy best.
He's he's definitely with with with the Hales.
But like this tableau is just like the cinematography, the
shapes of like of power, just the way that it it just just the
shapes of the bodies, the hands of everything.

(01:18:25):
Like Cora has both of her hands like envoyed.
She's just like openly sobbing. And it's it's like it's so
powerful and I hate it. It has a great oil painting look
to it. Yeah, it does.
It's very artistic and I love it.
And also RIP Vernon Boyd the 4th.
You deserved so much more. I don't understand.

(01:18:47):
I'm very sorry. I just don't get it.
I don't get it. Explain this to me.
And you know, just because we'vemissed it just a little bit, but
the episode ends with like, Deaton and Scott, you know, he's
not after Derek, He's after you.But just before we get Chris,
who just like, starts showing upto Gerard's, like, sad little
room in whatever assisted livingfacility he's in and just starts

(01:19:09):
yelling at him because he deserves it.
He deserves it. He wants, Yeah.
He wants to know the truth aboutDecaylion.
Tell me that True. And then he closes the door and
leaves. And then Allison comes to visit.
What's up? So Allison's finally going to
get a chance to confront Gerard,and I'm like, OK, all right,
good job. Good job kid.

(01:19:30):
Yeah, yeah, we don't know about what?
Like are they going to talk about Decalion?
Are they going to talk about himbeing a complete asshole?
Yeah, we don't know. I just, I don't know.
But they're setting everything up to, you know, are we going to
get to hear some back stories? Yes.
'Cause we are. That's what next episode is for.

(01:19:50):
It's the back story episode. Back story episode maybe?
But like, technically yes, Deaton was in danger and
technically yes Kali does come for Derek.
But like, that's not what happens in this episode.
Scott McCall being the world's best son and an incredible
friend and an adequate Chosen 1 Derek being.

(01:20:13):
You know, tortured again. Lydia not being a psychic.
Yep. Scott and Allison almost make it
out in the closet in her dad's office.
Yeah, like Dad almost catching them.
Boyd being torn from our hearts.So garbage.
Completely. I'm so mad.
I'm still mad about it. I'm still mad about it.
And every single time Boyd isn'tfake.

(01:20:34):
I'm like, yes, where he belongs.Good job.
Yeah, didn't die. He's fine.
He's fine. He and Erica are fine.
And I think that's a healthy wayto approach ATV.
Show that's a healthy way to approach ATV show honestly This
is why Teen Wolf is still such afan in it's still you can still
derive so much from fan in and Teen Wolf because they made

(01:20:55):
these choices that we're all like rejected yeah because it's
like you know with something like the sofranos you know if
it's so well written the entire way through you're like yeah
that was fine I accept cannon this is cool.
Yeah, I don't need to revisit this.
I'm good. I don't need to revisit, I don't
need to change anything. This was fine.
You can expand on it a little bit, but you don't even change
anything. But like, here, I love getting
to to to learn about, you know, Boyd and Derek and how they were

(01:21:18):
on the basketball team and how, you know, Boyd's really enjoying
playing lacrosse and how he and Isaac are bonding and his first
date with Erica. And like, you know, how his
grandmother comes to graduation and like, all of these things,
you know? Yep.
Like how? Good.
His life is how. Good.
His life is and it's great. It's great.

(01:21:39):
Yeah. My notes and all the caps.
A boy getting electrocuted again.
Fuck you. I know.
And it's just like, God damn it.We'd be terrible TV writers
because we're just like and everything was happy all the
time. And if the angst writers want to
do different things, that's fine.
These are my Barbies and I'll play with them as I choose.
These are mine, I chose them. I chose them and they're going
to live in the stream house. Thank you very much.

(01:22:00):
I'm going to protect them. I'm going to protect them.
But yes, I say I'm just I'm I'm ready to move on from this
episode. Even though the tableau of like
Boyd, Cora, Derek and Styles like lives in my brain.
I am just really ready to move on from this episode.
I just it's not for me. It's not for me.

(01:22:21):
I don't like it. I I don't like it.
I don't like it, but like, you know what?
Congrats on getting your bright red alpha eyes, Scott, and thank
you for being a great son and anexcellent friend.
Yes. Looking forward to Styles and
everybody telling Papa telling the sheriff about werewolves.

(01:22:42):
Yep, time to do that buddy. Anytime the Cor and Lydia want
to flirt, that's fine with me. Yep, that's that's.
Fantastic. Into that.
And we'll just, we'll just move on then.
Boyd have a fantastic couple of years in France.
You are going to have a great time.
Tell Erica what we love her whenshe gets you from the airport.
Yeah, we love you. We miss you.

(01:23:04):
We'll see you soon. We'll see you soon.
Exactly. Oh boy, TV writers are the
worst. And yet.
We love them. We do.
Well, this has been another emotional episode of Teen Wolf
Impact Dynamics where a lot happens and more will continue
to happen in the upcoming episodes.
As it does every time. As it does every time.

(01:23:26):
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A good a lot, but a lot. A good a lot, yeah.
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