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April 18, 2025 • 70 mins

This episode of FARSIGHT Chats, host Farah Bala sits down with DEI, HR and legal experts, Susan Seah, Hyma Menath and MJ Jaques.

The focus of the discussion on anti-racism and belonging in the workplace was originally held in the summer of 2020 during the peak of the Black Lives Matter and anti-Asian hate movements. It explores the importance of creating inclusive workplaces, addressing systemic racism, and empowering employees as allies. It also covers the nuances of racism in legal and technological fields, the role of HR in fostering safe workplaces, and the need for consistent, structural change. The episode aims to provide actionable insights into promoting equity, diversity, and inclusion within organizations.

| KEY TOPICS DISCUSSED |

Workplace Racism

  • Covert vs. Overt Racism: Often racism manifests subtly (e.g., tokenism, biased promotion practices).
  • Tokenism Harms Belonging: Hiring people of color for optics without inclusion undermines true equity.

Why Organizations Should Care

  • Racism = Prejudice + Power: Organizations must confront how power is distributed and maintained.
  • Impact on Performance: Inclusive workplaces are more successful; exclusion affects morale, retention, and innovation.

Practical Approaches

  • Normalize, Organize, Operationalize (Race Forward Model):

Normalize conversations about race.

Organize by building internal capacity for equity.

Operationalize through policies, accountability, and metrics.

  • Mandatory Anti-Racism Training: Suggested as essential, like sexual harassment training.
  • Racial Equity Audits & Data Tracking: Use outcomes and data to assess progress and barriers.

Global & Intersectional Lens

  • White Supremacist Structures Are Global: Colonial legacies affect systems worldwide.
  • Intersectionality Matters: Race intersects with gender, immigration status, class, disability, etc.

Leadership & Accountability

  • Top-Down Commitment is Crucial: Leadership must model and enforce anti-racist values.
  • Safe Spaces & Psychological Safety: Employees must be able to report discrimination without fear.
  • Accountability Without Shame: Encouragement for growth over cancel culture.

| SHOW NOTES |

00:00 Introduction to FARSIGHT Chats

00:28 Setting the Context: Belonging in the Workplace

02:06 Meet the Guests: Susan, Hyma, and MJ

04:04 Understanding Anti-Racism in the Workplace

05:58 Challenges and Realities of Racism in Organizations

08:31 The Importance of Allyship and Structural Change

21:59 Strategies for Embedding Racial Equity

36:04 Navigating Workplace Dynamics

37:03 Intention vs. Impact in Organizational Change

37:31 Challenges in Implementing DEI Programs

39:52 The Role of Technology in Systemic Bias

42:47 Allyship and Organizational Culture

45:38 The Importance of Leadership in DEI

54:56 Intersectionality and Racial Equity

01:00:06 HR's Role in Addressing Racism

01:04:49 Consulting and DEI Integration

01:07:35 Creating Inclusive Legal Practices

01:09:46 Conclusion and Future Conversations

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