September 15, 2025 • 42 mins
Beverly Spring shares her powerful journey from chronic migraines and type 2 diabetes to improved health through faith-centered wellness. She discovers how integrating spiritual practices with nutrition and movement transformed her life despite multiple health challenges and family caregiving responsibilities.
• Beverly suffered from chronic migraines since childhood but went "chronic" in the early 2000s
• She discovered many of her migraine triggers were foods she naturally disliked—her body's innate intelligence protecting her
• Medication for high cholesterol likely contributed to her type 2 diabetes diagnosis
• Through Fast to Faith, Beverly reduced her A1C from 6.4 to 6.0, moving from diabetes to pre-diabetes range
• She developed flashcards with scripture to replace negative self-talk with biblical truth
• Simple stretching routines have significantly improved her neck and shoulder pain
• Beverly completed the Fast to Faith coaching program despite undergoing shoulder surgery and caring for her husband after his double bypass
• God's perfect timing allowed her own healing to progress enough to help her husband through his recovery
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
When I was first being diagnosed, I was at the
library.
God put this book into my hand.
I honestly feel like the foodsI didn't like were God's way of
protecting me from foods thatwere not good for me.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Oh, that's so powerful.
I love that.
Welcome back to the Fast toFaith podcast.
I am so excited that you arewith us for another conversation
with one of my amazing coachesone of my Fast to Faith coaches.
I just want to say that it isan honor to have you here right
(00:34):
now, because I know how precioustime is in a day, and a lot of
times I'll listen to podcasts onone and a half speed, or even
two if they talk slow, kind oflike I do, but like our time is
valuable.
So I just wanted to thank youand honor you for the fact that
you are taking the time tolisten to this and I know that
(00:57):
you're going to find some valueout of it.
There's going to be some aha,something that clicks that
really changes your life goingforward, and it might be one
little comment that you hear, orone tool or tactic, or maybe
it's not even what we say.
(01:17):
This is the cool thingOftentimes the Holy Spirit is
just talking through theseconversations and telling you
what you need to hear.
I know for me, I've listened topodcasts and gotten such
incredible downloads from Godand I go back and listen to it
again because I want to hearthat message again and I'm like
(01:39):
man, they weren't even talkingabout that.
God, you're so good.
That was all you just talkingthrough the podcast.
So I'm hoping for that for youtoday as a listener, and I'm
excited to introduce to youBeverly Spring.
So welcome Beverly to thepodcast.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Thank you very much, Dr Tabitha.
I appreciate you asking me tobe here.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Oh, my goodness, you are going to bless a lot of
women today.
I just know it because yourstory, unfortunately, is all too
common.
There's a lot of womensuffering in midlife and beyond
and it's kind of the culminationof a lot of things that
(02:23):
happened to them over a timeperiod.
So I know, when you found me,you came to me with some
diagnoses.
You're like I'm already on fouror five different meds, I'm
already dealing with this.
Is there hope for me?
And of course there was.
So I would love for you toshare with the listeners, like
what did that journey look likeand how did you find me?
(02:46):
And let's just get to know youa little bit, because I know
women are going to resonate withyour story.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
I am.
I have chronic migraine.
I have chronic migraine.
I was going to say I am amigraineur, but we don't want to
say what that.
We want to say that we have anissue, but we are not the issue.
(03:28):
And I've suffered from headachesmost of my life but went
chronic in the early 2000s andwhen I was first being diagnosed
, I was at the library with mykids and I was looking through
the books and God put this bookinto my hand and it was my first
step to trying to use diet andnutrition to solve my problems
(03:52):
or to help with my problems.
And I did that for a.
I heard this chiropractor onthe radio and he had a wellness
(04:13):
health coach and so I startedgoing to her and she started to
work with me.
And then she went out and hungup her shingle and I worked with
her when she was independent.
But my chiropractor pointed meto JJ Virgin, so I tried GAG
Virgin's program for a while andthen JJ Virgin introduced me to
(04:40):
Dr Anna Kabeca on her podcastand so I followed Dr Anna Kabeca
for a long time and then youwere on Dr Anna Kabeca's program
and you were introducing yourbook, your book Fast to Faith,
(05:00):
and I said, oh, this is what I'mgoing to do for Lent this year,
because it was coming out justin time for Lent and I'm always
looking for something to doduring Lent.
And I wasn't able to get throughthe program because it was in a
(05:23):
book and my migraine has madeit difficult for me to read.
So I thought, well, if it evercomes out on Audible, I'll
listen to it, and then I'll doit.
And so that's what I did thislast year.
And I found out about thecoaching program and joined that
(05:45):
to kind of replace the healthcoach I lost when she retired.
And so here I am.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Oh, my goodness, I love that so much.
And I just want to point outthat at the beginning you said
you checked yourself, you caughtyourself with your language and
said I'm not a migrainer, Ihave migraines.
And I think that is a reallyimportant point to point out,
because so much of what we'resaying, the words that we're
(06:22):
using, they're defining us andthey're defining our life, and
so that is something you'veobviously learned through the
coaching academy is languagematters.
I was reading the gospel ofJohn last night and the first
sentence is the word was God,the word was with God.
(06:51):
Like words matter, god createdour earth by his words, his
spoken words.
Jesus defeated the devil andtemptation when he fasted for 40
days by speaking scripture,speaking those words.
So I just I'm so proud of you,like you pointed, like you went
right for it and you correctedthat I love that so much and I
love that you pointed out likehey, I've seen a few people, I
(07:14):
follow different people and itjust takes me to the next person
, because I truly believe likethis is a journey with multiple
paths and multiple opportunitiesand we get to choose like who
are we going to listen to, whoare we going to ask for advice
(07:35):
along the way and you grow outof it or you get what you need
and you go on to the next thingand God is just like hey, here's
who you need next.
And you were determined youwere going to figure it out.
And it just makes me feel goodbecause that audible took me a
(07:56):
long time to record.
My house is never quiet.
The publishers were never happywith the recordings I sent in.
They're like nope, too muchbackground noise, nope too many
things.
And I'm like, oh my gosh.
So it took me over twice aslong as it takes most people.
So I'm glad that you listened toit.
It feels my heart.
(08:17):
But were there any things inFast to Faith that were a new
concept for you or a new idea?
Or like what was it that reallymade you decide?
Yes, I want to like dive infull on, because signing up to
be a coach, that's a big deal.
(08:38):
It's one thing to do a program,but to like do the whole thing,
which I love.
I'm a quick start, like you,but what was like feeding your
soul that made you want to dothat?
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Well, for me it was the faith portion of the program
.
I yeah, that's really what itwas the faith portion of the
program.
Dr Anna and JJ Virgin hadreally great ideas and they
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helped.
Like you said, they helped meand I was free in their
community to talk about my faith, but it was not ingrained in
the program like yours is, andthat is what has made the
difference for me.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
I love it, so something was feeding your soul.
Finally.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Yes, that is correct.
That's so good.
So do you mind sharing what aresome of the diagnoses that you
came to me with?
And you know you mentioned themigraine struggle like that's a
huge deal and hopefully we'regetting over this hurdle and
you've figured out like part ofyour triggers for your migraine.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Share that with us.
Well, as far as triggers areconcerned, I kind of knew what
they were before I ever pickedup my first book.
I just didn't know how todefine them.
For example, I knew that if Iate too much ham, I would get a
headache.
I knew that if I drank a dietsoda I would get a headache.
(10:39):
Oh, and I really didn't likebacon and I really didn't like
hot dogs.
And so I found out that it wasthe artificial sweetener in the
diet soda that was giving me aheadache, and that it was the
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nitrates in the bacon and thehot dogs that gave me headaches.
And the ham.
And so I didn't like KentuckyFried Chicken.
I have no idea why.
Why would I not like KentuckyFried Chicken, but like other
fast food chickens?
(11:20):
I found out that Kentucky FriedChicken injects MSG into their
meat, so I thought, well, if Itake off the skin and just eat
the meat, I'll be fine.
And no, that was not the case.
So that was what was helpfulfor me as far as finding out
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what the trigger was.
My most recent discovery, though, of the trigger was of triggers
was beets, and I found that outin a really weird way.
I've had one of my medicationscompounded for many years
because I had tested sensitiveto corn and there was corn in
the tablets and the compoundingchemist.
(12:12):
I lived in England too long.
I never can remember pharmacist.
The compounding pharmacist putbeet powder in the capsules as a
filler and I hate beets.
(12:33):
I won't even have them in myhouse.
Hate is not a strong enoughword about how I feel about
beets.
My mom learned that there arejust some things you cannot
force a child to eat because shetried to do that with me and
beets.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
I actually remember that on your intake form you
wrote that because it's like doyou have food issues, food
sensitivities?
Speaker 1 (13:00):
You're like I hate beets and I thought I wonder if
that's a soil thing or you knowmy mind was going all over the
place, so keep going Well onetime he ran out of beets as the
beet powder as the filler and heused lactose instead, lactose
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instead.
And then the next time he putit in he had the beet powder
back and put the beet powderback in and, oh, my headaches
just got so bad when thathappened and that's how I knew
that beets were a trigger.
So I had to get rid of a wholelot of stuff that had beets in
it because I figure, as long asI don't taste it, you know I'm
(13:48):
fine If I can't taste it, if Ican't smell it, okay, you know I
can tolerate it, but no, theyare a migraine trigger.
Honestly feel like a lot ofthose food things I, the foods I
(14:13):
didn't like, were God's way, mybody's way, of protecting me
from foods that were not goodfor me oh, that's so powerful.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
I love that.
Yeah, we have innateintelligence in ourselves
downloaded into us.
Our body does know best.
So I love hearing that you havefigured all of that out.
That's really powerful.
And you know, if you'relistening, obviously it's very
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individualized, because I lovebeets and they make me feel
really good, because I lovebeets and they make me feel
really good.
But I do personally have foodslike that as well that they will
just like take me out for theday.
You know, headache, nausea,depression, all the things, and
so it's really powerful when youcan figure that out and get
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some freedom from all thoseheadaches and migraines and all
the other things.
And you know, I'm assuming thatbecause you were so limited in
what you liked to eat and youwere struggling with the pain
and all of the things that youkind of just ate, you kind of
(15:22):
just ate what comforted you andwhat was easy and what was quick
, and so that led you down thepath to diabetes and all of that
stuff.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Right, yeah, I think so.
I was diagnosed with highcholesterol and I'd been
struggling with hightriglycerides for some time.
When I got the diagnosis forthe high cholesterol, my primary
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care looked at me and she saidlet me see, you have blonde eyes
and blue hair, blue hair.
Nope, blonde hair and blue eyes.
There we go.
Are you Scandinavian Going?
Yeah, she said okay, well,that's it then.
You're Scandinavian.
(16:16):
You have high cholesterolbecause you're Scandinavian.
And because you're Scandinavian, you have to be on cholesterol
lowering drugs.
And I took it for a month.
She didn't give me a refill.
So I took it for a month and ayear later I came back and she
(16:39):
said have you been taking that?
I said you didn't give me arefill.
I went in for a blood test.
I never heard back for you, soI thought I was fine and she
said oh no, it's way worse thanit was.
So she put me on double thedose that she had originally
prescribed for me and in myresearch from that I discovered
(17:03):
that a side effect ofcholesterol lowering drugs,
particularly the one I was on Iam on, is type 2 diabetes, and I
honestly think that that iswhere my type 2 diabetes came
(17:23):
from.
Was taking thecholesterol-lowering drug, but I
was also about within sixmonths of starting that drug I
got my type 2 diabetes diagnosisto diabetes diagnosis.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
That's so heartbreaking.
But I'm really glad that youpointed that out because that is
a real risk factor thatlegitimately is a cause.
That medication, those statins,and so anybody listening, think
about that.
You know, if you are on thismedication it could be causing
you to have chronically elevatedblood sugars and tip you over
to diabetes.
(18:11):
So we have to be careful whatwe're signing up for, because
the treatment for one thingmight be the cause of another,
and you know that.
That, ultimately, is why I leftconventional medicine, because
so much of it was band-aidmedicine.
It was like, well, I can takecare of this thing.
(18:32):
I can't promise it's not gonnaaffect this over here and we'll
deal with that.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
At that point, and to me it's like playing a game of
whack-a-mole, like you just keepwhacking a different mole and
another one pops up it's madness, but the one thing that I have
found since I started thisprogram is that I have brought
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down my a1c, which is anindicator of uh, where where
your blood sugar has been in thelast three months.
I've brought it down from a 6.4to a 6, which makes me in the
pre-diabetes area, but the trendis that it's going down, which
(19:21):
is very good news.
Yes, my cholesterol is alsodown and my triglycerides are
also down.
There's like triglycerides areelevated, but they are much
lower than they were when Istarted the program, and so that
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those were very, very good newsfor me.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Yeah, that is probably the most common thing I
hear when women go through fastof faith is my blood sugar is
trending down, my badcholesterol is trending down,
all those things.
So I love that, but I want tohear about like some spiritual
breakthroughs.
Like some spiritualbreakthroughs.
(20:10):
What else do you?
Speaker 1 (20:13):
feel like was holding you in bondage that you're
breaking free from.
Finally, Well, a lot of it hasto do with my self-talk and my
mindset self-talk and my mindsetand I really didn't understand
how to do it without while stillacknowledging the truth.
(20:41):
For example, I am obese.
I am in the obese range when Istand on the scale and it goes
to my app and it shows me whereI am.
I am obese, but I never thoughtof myself as a fat person.
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I've always thought of myselfas a thin person.
So how do I acknowledge thetruth that I am obese while
still changing my mindset aboutwhere I want to be in the future
(21:32):
?
And so Fast of Faith has reallyhelped me do that.
So what I've started to do is Ihave made I meant to bring them
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in here with me, I have madeflashcards that on one side they
have perhaps the lie I ambelieving, or the thought that
the negative thought that I wantto replace with a positive
thought, and the same with anegative behavior that I want to
replace with a positive thought, and the same with a negative
behavior that I want to replacewith a positive behavior.
So on one side of the flashcard I have the negative
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behavior or thought and then onthe other side, I have the
positive thought that I want toreplace it with, and so I look
through those every day and alot of.
There are things that when I'mreading a passage in the Bible,
I'll say, oh wow, I really needthis as a way to help me change
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my thoughts.
Is a way to help me change mythoughts.
So I'll make another flashcardand put the negative behavior
that verse is addressing on theone side and the verse on the
other side.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Yeah, that's so powerful.
I love that.
Wow, wow.
Is there one card in particularthat you struggle with the most
, that you have to keep flippingback and forth and and renewing
your mind on, um, well, I'lltell you.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
I will tell you what has happened most recently.
I really struggle with gettingenough movement and exercise.
Exercise is one of those thingsthat has never made me feel
better, ever.
I've never gone to the gym andcome out feeling like I'm more
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energetic.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Okay, well, I know there's some women feeling you
right now.
On that, I'm with you.
Beverly, I hate working out.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
I feel worse afterwards, so keep going so
yesterday, um, during the umquestion and answer and faith
builders call, I mentioned itand one of the things I've been
doing lately is I had a goutflare.
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I've had a gout flare recentlyand I am I know how to take care
of my gout flare.
I learned from a physicaltherapist the stretches I can do
to help relieve the pain.
So I've started doing mystretches and I going okay, well
, as long as I'm stretching mylegs, I may as well stretch my
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hips.
So I'm stretching my hips andthen I thought well, as long as
I'm stretching my hips, I may aswell do my spine twists.
So I am doing my spine twists.
Well, I have been the lastseveral months I have been
dealing with a lot of neck pain.
It refers down to my shoulder,so I really feel it feels like
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it's shoulder pain, but it isneck pain and sometimes it's so
bad that I can't at night whenI'm trying to sleep, I can't lay
on that side of my body.
Since I've been starting, sinceI've been doing my spinal twists
, I've been able to relieve someof that neck pain, of that neck
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pain, and I mentioned on thecall yesterday that I just
really wanted to remember tocontinue those stretches even
after I started feeling better,because my tendency is, once I
feel better, I stop doing it,stop doing it.
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So Ashley said to write down anintention about doing my
stretching every day and notstopping when I start to feel
better.
And then later on she said shesaid that she wanted me to do it
in the present tense.
So I originally wrote down myintention as I feel better when
I do my stretches, I will do mystretches every day.
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But I changed that to I amdoing my stretches every day, so
I've started.
That was a real game changerfor me to notice that that tense
and that verb needed to changefrom the future to the present.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Yes, I love that because we're always going to
start on Monday, we're alwaysgoing to start next week, so
that's really powerful.
I think there's no time likethe present, and I've been
realizing that we cannot getthis time back.
You know, I was just saying tosomeone yesterday how in the
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world is it August already?
We are recording this in August.
I literally feel like it wasjust the new year and you know,
I've been trying to be presentin all of the moments, every day
, and it just slips through ourfingers and we are left with
whatever we did.
And so if we didn't walk andmove our bodies, we are left
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with stiffness and pain and allthe things.
And I was.
I've been feeling you latelybecause I didn't go to Pilates
for two weeks and two days ago Ireached my breaking point and I
was like oh my gosh, I'm notsleeping, I'm waking up,
uncomfortable, I'm swapping outmy pillows, I'm stiff, I'm
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grumpy, oh hello, you haven'tbeen working out and moving your
body.
And so I love this idea of likelet's get into the present
moment and just start working onwhat we can work on right now.
And the fact that you'restacking it.
You're like well, I'm doing thelegs, I might as well do the
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hips, I might as well do thespine and the neck, like, yes,
that is really going to make allof the difference for you.
So I love that you're figuringthese tricks out, these ways of
navigating what's working foryou and sharing it in the fast
to faith group, because that isso powerful.
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We're just learning from eachother, right?
Yes, oh my gosh, I love that somuch.
So how has God shown up for youthrough all of this?
I mean, I see it, I know I hearyou on the calls, I see
everything, but I want mylisteners to really understand
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that when you finally give inand say God, I need you on this
journey, he does start showingup and really powerful and
obvious ways, doesn't he?
Speaker 1 (29:03):
He really does.
I know a lot of.
Before I started this programand I was virtually bedridden
because of the pain.
I spent a lot of time in prayerand I would pray for my friends
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and sometimes I would let myfriends know and then my friends
would say, wow, you prayed forme at just the right time and I
don't know what's going on intheir lives.
I have no idea what's going onon their lives.
I have no idea what's going onon their lives.
(29:45):
I just decided that it'sTuesday, so I'm going to pray
for Tabitha and it just happened.
I contacted Tabitha on Tuesdayand she was going through a
rough spot that day, on Tuesdayand she was going through a
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rough spot that day.
So you know, that's one waythat God has shown up.
But as far as my recovery isconcerned, that is that God has
used people in my life mostright now people in the Fast of
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Faith community to help metransform my thoughts by
pointing out what my wrongthought was and helping me
replace it with the rightthought.
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Also, I just our church juststarted to do a book on prayer.
Pastor is doing it on Wednesdaynights doing it on Wednesday
nights and one of the thingsthat is in this book to do is to
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take a Psalm and pray throughthe Psalm, and so I've started
doing that and they do it.
It's really fun because it'slike today is the 19th, so I'm
going to look at Psalm 19.
Like today is the 19th, so I'mgoing to look at Psalm 19.
And, yeah, it's been reallygreat the way sometimes I really
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have to work hard at that Psalmto find out what's great about
God or what's great about orwhat if there are any sins I
need to confess through thisPsalm, because it doesn't really
talk about sin.
It doesn't really talk aboutGod per se, but it talks about
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the psalmist, or it talks aboutGod's creation.
But with prayer, god has shownme how to see him more in the
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things that I don't necessarilyrecognize as him.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
Yeah, I love that.
Okay, oh, my goodness, thatthat was a really powerful thing
for me as well, because Ithought that things were just
maybe happening or it was goodluck.
And once I really started toacknowledge, wow, god, like you
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did this.
You answered my prayer, yourprovision is on me, and
acknowledged it and spoke it outloud with gratitude and
repented for my sins.
Like it just became moreobvious every time.
I was like, oh, I see whatyou're doing.
You are such a good father.
That is incredible.
(33:03):
So I love hearing that for you.
That is so fabulous.
And can I just like honor youfor a minute, because you
haven't even shared like a tenthof what you've been going
through in your story and youjumped into Fast of Faith.
You jumped in not only to thecommunity and like, let me do
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this program, but let me gothrough the coaching academy and
become a certified coach.
While you were having surgeryyou were having shoulder surgery
and going through recovery andyour husband's going through
stuff.
And I just want to acknowledgethat, because so often we are
waiting for the perfectcircumstance, we are waiting for
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life to calm down or for, like,everything to be in its place,
and that is just not what we'recalled to do, right.
So I just want to acknowledgethe fact that you did it, scared
, unready, busy as can be.
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You could have had every excuseand instead you just continued
to show up week after week foryourself, for God, for the
sisters in Fasts of Faith, and Ijust want to say job well done.
Like that is incredible girl.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
I was just just before you said that.
I was thinking about one otherway that God has really shown up
for me, and that is that, god,I did have to have shoulder
surgery and there was a longtime where I couldn't move my
arm at all.
And then there was a long timewhen I couldn't take any weight
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on my arm at all.
And within during that time ofhealing, my dad, my husband, had
to have double bypass surgery,but by the time he had and I had
to help him well through hisrecovery.
But God had allowed me to healenough that I could help him do
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the things he needed to do, thatI could help him do the things
he needed to do, like get up offthe sofa.
I couldn't have done thatearlier in my healing process,
so it was just the right timethat God allowed that to me, to
(35:40):
me to do that, yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
Yeah, he sees everything that we're going to
deal with.
He is preparing a way.
You know his, he, just he.
He always keeps his promises.
He really does.
And when we can trust that hesees the bigger picture and that
we don't really understand atall, then life is just so much
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better, like I know you had somuch more peace going through
everything because you were likeI trust you, god.
You have been making a way allof this time.
You're going to continue tomake a way.
I'm going to continue to stayin your word and ask for your
guidance and, you know, be inthe sisterhood of fast to faith
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and let these women pray for meand lift me up.
And it's just really powerfulto see how far you've come and
that you are releasing thesefears and these worries and
you're continuing to trust andyou're just it's getting better
and better.
I am so excited for you.
(36:49):
So what would you say, as weclose here, to the woman
listening who is afraid becauseshe's tried all the things, or
she just feels too far gone,like it's not even worth it,
because it's probably not goingto work for me?
I'm just, I have too muchhappening.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
When you, when that you were asking that question,
two quotes came up into my mindand they're very, very similar
quotes.
Uh, one was from WinstonChurchill, who said never give
up, and the other one was fromthe movie galaxy quest, where
(37:35):
the theme was never give up,never surrender.
And and then the other thinghas just been to God had to put
me in a place where I had todepend on him.
I had no other choice but todepend on him, and sometimes
(37:58):
that's where you have to start.
Sometimes you have to startthere and then you have to start
.
Sometimes you have to startthere and then God will use
things like fast of faith orreading your Bible or watching a
(38:19):
silly movie like Galaxy Questto help you move and to help you
heal, help you move intohealing and to help you move.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
Yeah, oh my gosh.
Yes, I always say God doesn'twant to steer a parked car Like.
That is a challenge.
You need to be in some kind offorward action in motion for him
to intervene.
He wants you to be an activeparticipant in your life.
(38:56):
He's not a magic genie in abottle like wish and you know
you get whatever he wants you inthe game.
He wants you putting skin inthe game.
He wants you to move forwardthrough that fear and be brave.
Like Second Timothy says, hedid not give us a spirit of fear
(39:17):
, he gave us a spirit of powerand self discipline.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
So, ladies, of power and self-discipline.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
So, ladies I know this is resonating with you Just
be like Beverly today Juststart.
Start because you're not ready.
Start because you don'tpossibly see a way for it to
work out.
Start because you don't feelequipped.
God wants to help you and Ijust I'm hearing like give him
your five loaves and two fishand he will multiply.
(39:51):
You just give a little and thenhe comes in and he does the
miraculous things.
So thank you for sharing yourincredible journey with us.
You're just getting started,which is the coolest part.
Like I can't wait to see youcoaching women and helping other
women on their journeys throughall of this, because you are an
(40:14):
overcomer.
You're more than a conqueror,just like the Bible says you are
.
You've proven that.
So I'm really proud of you, I'mreally excited for all that
you're going to be doing and Iappreciate you.
Speaker 1 (40:26):
So thank you for sharing Well thank you for
having me on your podcast andallowing me to share with you I
it has been a great experiencefor me, Awesome.
Speaker 2 (40:39):
All right, ladies, go out and be like Beverly today
Just get into messy action.
That's what we say at Fast toFaith Just get into messy action
.
God will clean it up, he'lldirect you, he'll steer you, but
he can't steer a parked car.
So, I love you, go be Christ'shands to serve, but take care of
yourself, ladies, and we'll seeyou soon.
When I was first being diagnosed, I was at the
library.
God put this book into my hand.
I honestly feel like the foodsI didn't like were God's way of
protecting me from foods thatwere not good for me.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Oh, that's so powerful.
I love that.
Welcome back to the Fast toFaith podcast.
I am so excited that you arewith us for another conversation
with one of my amazing coachesone of my Fast to Faith coaches.
I just want to say that it isan honor to have you here right
(00:34):
now, because I know how precioustime is in a day, and a lot of
times I'll listen to podcasts onone and a half speed, or even
two if they talk slow, kind oflike I do, but like our time is
valuable.
So I just wanted to thank youand honor you for the fact that
you are taking the time tolisten to this and I know that
(00:57):
you're going to find some valueout of it.
There's going to be some aha,something that clicks that
really changes your life goingforward, and it might be one
little comment that you hear, orone tool or tactic, or maybe
it's not even what we say.
(01:17):
This is the cool thingOftentimes the Holy Spirit is
just talking through theseconversations and telling you
what you need to hear.
I know for me, I've listened topodcasts and gotten such
incredible downloads from Godand I go back and listen to it
again because I want to hearthat message again and I'm like
(01:39):
man, they weren't even talkingabout that.
God, you're so good.
That was all you just talkingthrough the podcast.
So I'm hoping for that for youtoday as a listener, and I'm
excited to introduce to youBeverly Spring.
So welcome Beverly to thepodcast.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Thank you very much, Dr Tabitha.
I appreciate you asking me tobe here.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Oh, my goodness, you are going to bless a lot of
women today.
I just know it because yourstory, unfortunately, is all too
common.
There's a lot of womensuffering in midlife and beyond
and it's kind of the culminationof a lot of things that
(02:23):
happened to them over a timeperiod.
So I know, when you found me,you came to me with some
diagnoses.
You're like I'm already on fouror five different meds, I'm
already dealing with this.
Is there hope for me?
And of course there was.
So I would love for you toshare with the listeners, like
what did that journey look likeand how did you find me?
(02:46):
And let's just get to know youa little bit, because I know
women are going to resonate withyour story.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
I am.
I have chronic migraine.
I have chronic migraine.
I was going to say I am amigraineur, but we don't want to
say what that.
We want to say that we have anissue, but we are not the issue.
(03:28):
And I've suffered from headachesmost of my life but went
chronic in the early 2000s andwhen I was first being diagnosed
, I was at the library with mykids and I was looking through
the books and God put this bookinto my hand and it was my first
step to trying to use diet andnutrition to solve my problems
(03:52):
or to help with my problems.
And I did that for a.
I heard this chiropractor onthe radio and he had a wellness
(04:13):
health coach and so I startedgoing to her and she started to
work with me.
And then she went out and hungup her shingle and I worked with
her when she was independent.
But my chiropractor pointed meto JJ Virgin, so I tried GAG
Virgin's program for a while andthen JJ Virgin introduced me to
(04:40):
Dr Anna Kabeca on her podcastand so I followed Dr Anna Kabeca
for a long time and then youwere on Dr Anna Kabeca's program
and you were introducing yourbook, your book Fast to Faith,
(05:00):
and I said, oh, this is what I'mgoing to do for Lent this year,
because it was coming out justin time for Lent and I'm always
looking for something to doduring Lent.
And I wasn't able to get throughthe program because it was in a
(05:23):
book and my migraine has madeit difficult for me to read.
So I thought, well, if it evercomes out on Audible, I'll
listen to it, and then I'll doit.
And so that's what I did thislast year.
And I found out about thecoaching program and joined that
(05:45):
to kind of replace the healthcoach I lost when she retired.
And so here I am.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Oh, my goodness, I love that so much.
And I just want to point outthat at the beginning you said
you checked yourself, you caughtyourself with your language and
said I'm not a migrainer, Ihave migraines.
And I think that is a reallyimportant point to point out,
because so much of what we'resaying, the words that we're
(06:22):
using, they're defining us andthey're defining our life, and
so that is something you'veobviously learned through the
coaching academy is languagematters.
I was reading the gospel ofJohn last night and the first
sentence is the word was God,the word was with God.
(06:51):
Like words matter, god createdour earth by his words, his
spoken words.
Jesus defeated the devil andtemptation when he fasted for 40
days by speaking scripture,speaking those words.
So I just I'm so proud of you,like you pointed, like you went
right for it and you correctedthat I love that so much and I
love that you pointed out likehey, I've seen a few people, I
(07:14):
follow different people and itjust takes me to the next person
, because I truly believe likethis is a journey with multiple
paths and multiple opportunitiesand we get to choose like who
are we going to listen to, whoare we going to ask for advice
(07:35):
along the way and you grow outof it or you get what you need
and you go on to the next thingand God is just like hey, here's
who you need next.
And you were determined youwere going to figure it out.
And it just makes me feel goodbecause that audible took me a
(07:56):
long time to record.
My house is never quiet.
The publishers were never happywith the recordings I sent in.
They're like nope, too muchbackground noise, nope too many
things.
And I'm like, oh my gosh.
So it took me over twice aslong as it takes most people.
So I'm glad that you listened toit.
It feels my heart.
(08:17):
But were there any things inFast to Faith that were a new
concept for you or a new idea?
Or like what was it that reallymade you decide?
Yes, I want to like dive infull on, because signing up to
be a coach, that's a big deal.
(08:38):
It's one thing to do a program,but to like do the whole thing,
which I love.
I'm a quick start, like you,but what was like feeding your
soul that made you want to dothat?
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Well, for me it was the faith portion of the program
.
I yeah, that's really what itwas the faith portion of the
program.
Dr Anna and JJ Virgin hadreally great ideas and they
(09:15):
helped.
Like you said, they helped meand I was free in their
community to talk about my faith, but it was not ingrained in
the program like yours is, andthat is what has made the
difference for me.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
I love it, so something was feeding your soul.
Finally.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Yes, that is correct.
That's so good.
So do you mind sharing what aresome of the diagnoses that you
came to me with?
And you know you mentioned themigraine struggle like that's a
huge deal and hopefully we'regetting over this hurdle and
you've figured out like part ofyour triggers for your migraine.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Share that with us.
Well, as far as triggers areconcerned, I kind of knew what
they were before I ever pickedup my first book.
I just didn't know how todefine them.
For example, I knew that if Iate too much ham, I would get a
headache.
I knew that if I drank a dietsoda I would get a headache.
(10:39):
Oh, and I really didn't likebacon and I really didn't like
hot dogs.
And so I found out that it wasthe artificial sweetener in the
diet soda that was giving me aheadache, and that it was the
(10:59):
nitrates in the bacon and thehot dogs that gave me headaches.
And the ham.
And so I didn't like KentuckyFried Chicken.
I have no idea why.
Why would I not like KentuckyFried Chicken, but like other
fast food chickens?
(11:20):
I found out that Kentucky FriedChicken injects MSG into their
meat, so I thought, well, if Itake off the skin and just eat
the meat, I'll be fine.
And no, that was not the case.
So that was what was helpfulfor me as far as finding out
(11:45):
what the trigger was.
My most recent discovery, though, of the trigger was of triggers
was beets, and I found that outin a really weird way.
I've had one of my medicationscompounded for many years
because I had tested sensitiveto corn and there was corn in
the tablets and the compoundingchemist.
(12:12):
I lived in England too long.
I never can remember pharmacist.
The compounding pharmacist putbeet powder in the capsules as a
filler and I hate beets.
(12:33):
I won't even have them in myhouse.
Hate is not a strong enoughword about how I feel about
beets.
My mom learned that there arejust some things you cannot
force a child to eat because shetried to do that with me and
beets.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
I actually remember that on your intake form you
wrote that because it's like doyou have food issues, food
sensitivities?
Speaker 1 (13:00):
You're like I hate beets and I thought I wonder if
that's a soil thing or you knowmy mind was going all over the
place, so keep going Well onetime he ran out of beets as the
beet powder as the filler and heused lactose instead, lactose
(13:28):
instead.
And then the next time he putit in he had the beet powder
back and put the beet powderback in and, oh, my headaches
just got so bad when thathappened and that's how I knew
that beets were a trigger.
So I had to get rid of a wholelot of stuff that had beets in
it because I figure, as long asI don't taste it, you know I'm
(13:48):
fine If I can't taste it, if Ican't smell it, okay, you know I
can tolerate it, but no, theyare a migraine trigger.
Honestly feel like a lot ofthose food things I, the foods I
(14:13):
didn't like, were God's way, mybody's way, of protecting me
from foods that were not goodfor me oh, that's so powerful.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
I love that.
Yeah, we have innateintelligence in ourselves
downloaded into us.
Our body does know best.
So I love hearing that you havefigured all of that out.
That's really powerful.
And you know, if you'relistening, obviously it's very
(14:39):
individualized, because I lovebeets and they make me feel
really good, because I lovebeets and they make me feel
really good.
But I do personally have foodslike that as well that they will
just like take me out for theday.
You know, headache, nausea,depression, all the things, and
so it's really powerful when youcan figure that out and get
(15:01):
some freedom from all thoseheadaches and migraines and all
the other things.
And you know, I'm assuming thatbecause you were so limited in
what you liked to eat and youwere struggling with the pain
and all of the things that youkind of just ate, you kind of
(15:22):
just ate what comforted you andwhat was easy and what was quick
, and so that led you down thepath to diabetes and all of that
stuff.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Right, yeah, I think so.
I was diagnosed with highcholesterol and I'd been
struggling with hightriglycerides for some time.
When I got the diagnosis forthe high cholesterol, my primary
(15:56):
care looked at me and she saidlet me see, you have blonde eyes
and blue hair, blue hair.
Nope, blonde hair and blue eyes.
There we go.
Are you Scandinavian Going?
Yeah, she said okay, well,that's it then.
You're Scandinavian.
(16:16):
You have high cholesterolbecause you're Scandinavian.
And because you're Scandinavian, you have to be on cholesterol
lowering drugs.
And I took it for a month.
She didn't give me a refill.
So I took it for a month and ayear later I came back and she
(16:39):
said have you been taking that?
I said you didn't give me arefill.
I went in for a blood test.
I never heard back for you, soI thought I was fine and she
said oh no, it's way worse thanit was.
So she put me on double thedose that she had originally
prescribed for me and in myresearch from that I discovered
(17:03):
that a side effect ofcholesterol lowering drugs,
particularly the one I was on Iam on, is type 2 diabetes, and I
honestly think that that iswhere my type 2 diabetes came
(17:23):
from.
Was taking thecholesterol-lowering drug, but I
was also about within sixmonths of starting that drug I
got my type 2 diabetes diagnosisto diabetes diagnosis.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
That's so heartbreaking.
But I'm really glad that youpointed that out because that is
a real risk factor thatlegitimately is a cause.
That medication, those statins,and so anybody listening, think
about that.
You know, if you are on thismedication it could be causing
you to have chronically elevatedblood sugars and tip you over
to diabetes.
(18:11):
So we have to be careful whatwe're signing up for, because
the treatment for one thingmight be the cause of another,
and you know that.
That, ultimately, is why I leftconventional medicine, because
so much of it was band-aidmedicine.
It was like, well, I can takecare of this thing.
(18:32):
I can't promise it's not gonnaaffect this over here and we'll
deal with that.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
At that point, and to me it's like playing a game of
whack-a-mole, like you just keepwhacking a different mole and
another one pops up it's madness, but the one thing that I have
found since I started thisprogram is that I have brought
(19:00):
down my a1c, which is anindicator of uh, where where
your blood sugar has been in thelast three months.
I've brought it down from a 6.4to a 6, which makes me in the
pre-diabetes area, but the trendis that it's going down, which
(19:21):
is very good news.
Yes, my cholesterol is alsodown and my triglycerides are
also down.
There's like triglycerides areelevated, but they are much
lower than they were when Istarted the program, and so that
(19:42):
those were very, very good newsfor me.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Yeah, that is probably the most common thing I
hear when women go through fastof faith is my blood sugar is
trending down, my badcholesterol is trending down,
all those things.
So I love that, but I want tohear about like some spiritual
breakthroughs.
Like some spiritualbreakthroughs.
(20:10):
What else do you?
Speaker 1 (20:13):
feel like was holding you in bondage that you're
breaking free from.
Finally, Well, a lot of it hasto do with my self-talk and my
mindset self-talk and my mindsetand I really didn't understand
how to do it without while stillacknowledging the truth.
(20:41):
For example, I am obese.
I am in the obese range when Istand on the scale and it goes
to my app and it shows me whereI am.
I am obese, but I never thoughtof myself as a fat person.
(21:04):
I've always thought of myselfas a thin person.
So how do I acknowledge thetruth that I am obese while
still changing my mindset aboutwhere I want to be in the future
(21:32):
?
And so Fast of Faith has reallyhelped me do that.
So what I've started to do is Ihave made I meant to bring them
(21:54):
in here with me, I have madeflashcards that on one side they
have perhaps the lie I ambelieving, or the thought that
the negative thought that I wantto replace with a positive
thought, and the same with anegative behavior that I want to
replace with a positive thought, and the same with a negative
behavior that I want to replacewith a positive behavior.
So on one side of the flashcard I have the negative
(22:19):
behavior or thought and then onthe other side, I have the
positive thought that I want toreplace it with, and so I look
through those every day and alot of.
There are things that when I'mreading a passage in the Bible,
I'll say, oh wow, I really needthis as a way to help me change
(22:41):
my thoughts.
Is a way to help me change mythoughts.
So I'll make another flashcardand put the negative behavior
that verse is addressing on theone side and the verse on the
other side.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Yeah, that's so powerful.
I love that.
Wow, wow.
Is there one card in particularthat you struggle with the most
, that you have to keep flippingback and forth and and renewing
your mind on, um, well, I'lltell you.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
I will tell you what has happened most recently.
I really struggle with gettingenough movement and exercise.
Exercise is one of those thingsthat has never made me feel
better, ever.
I've never gone to the gym andcome out feeling like I'm more
(23:40):
energetic.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Okay, well, I know there's some women feeling you
right now.
On that, I'm with you.
Beverly, I hate working out.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
I feel worse afterwards, so keep going so
yesterday, um, during the umquestion and answer and faith
builders call, I mentioned itand one of the things I've been
doing lately is I had a goutflare.
(24:10):
I've had a gout flare recentlyand I am I know how to take care
of my gout flare.
I learned from a physicaltherapist the stretches I can do
to help relieve the pain.
So I've started doing mystretches and I going okay, well
, as long as I'm stretching mylegs, I may as well stretch my
(24:32):
hips.
So I'm stretching my hips andthen I thought well, as long as
I'm stretching my hips, I may aswell do my spine twists.
So I am doing my spine twists.
Well, I have been the lastseveral months I have been
dealing with a lot of neck pain.
It refers down to my shoulder,so I really feel it feels like
(24:55):
it's shoulder pain, but it isneck pain and sometimes it's so
bad that I can't at night whenI'm trying to sleep, I can't lay
on that side of my body.
Since I've been starting, sinceI've been doing my spinal twists
, I've been able to relieve someof that neck pain, of that neck
(25:24):
pain, and I mentioned on thecall yesterday that I just
really wanted to remember tocontinue those stretches even
after I started feeling better,because my tendency is, once I
feel better, I stop doing it,stop doing it.
(25:54):
So Ashley said to write down anintention about doing my
stretching every day and notstopping when I start to feel
better.
And then later on she said shesaid that she wanted me to do it
in the present tense.
So I originally wrote down myintention as I feel better when
I do my stretches, I will do mystretches every day.
(26:16):
But I changed that to I amdoing my stretches every day, so
I've started.
That was a real game changerfor me to notice that that tense
and that verb needed to changefrom the future to the present.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Yes, I love that because we're always going to
start on Monday, we're alwaysgoing to start next week, so
that's really powerful.
I think there's no time likethe present, and I've been
realizing that we cannot getthis time back.
You know, I was just saying tosomeone yesterday how in the
(27:01):
world is it August already?
We are recording this in August.
I literally feel like it wasjust the new year and you know,
I've been trying to be presentin all of the moments, every day
, and it just slips through ourfingers and we are left with
whatever we did.
And so if we didn't walk andmove our bodies, we are left
(27:25):
with stiffness and pain and allthe things.
And I was.
I've been feeling you latelybecause I didn't go to Pilates
for two weeks and two days ago Ireached my breaking point and I
was like oh my gosh, I'm notsleeping, I'm waking up,
uncomfortable, I'm swapping outmy pillows, I'm stiff, I'm
(27:49):
grumpy, oh hello, you haven'tbeen working out and moving your
body.
And so I love this idea of likelet's get into the present
moment and just start working onwhat we can work on right now.
And the fact that you'restacking it.
You're like well, I'm doing thelegs, I might as well do the
(28:10):
hips, I might as well do thespine and the neck, like, yes,
that is really going to make allof the difference for you.
So I love that you're figuringthese tricks out, these ways of
navigating what's working foryou and sharing it in the fast
to faith group, because that isso powerful.
(28:31):
We're just learning from eachother, right?
Yes, oh my gosh, I love that somuch.
So how has God shown up for youthrough all of this?
I mean, I see it, I know I hearyou on the calls, I see
everything, but I want mylisteners to really understand
(28:51):
that when you finally give inand say God, I need you on this
journey, he does start showingup and really powerful and
obvious ways, doesn't he?
Speaker 1 (29:03):
He really does.
I know a lot of.
Before I started this programand I was virtually bedridden
because of the pain.
I spent a lot of time in prayerand I would pray for my friends
(29:24):
and sometimes I would let myfriends know and then my friends
would say, wow, you prayed forme at just the right time and I
don't know what's going on intheir lives.
I have no idea what's going onon their lives.
I have no idea what's going onon their lives.
(29:45):
I just decided that it'sTuesday, so I'm going to pray
for Tabitha and it just happened.
I contacted Tabitha on Tuesdayand she was going through a
rough spot that day, on Tuesdayand she was going through a
(30:05):
rough spot that day.
So you know, that's one waythat God has shown up.
But as far as my recovery isconcerned, that is that God has
used people in my life mostright now people in the Fast of
(30:26):
Faith community to help metransform my thoughts by
pointing out what my wrongthought was and helping me
replace it with the rightthought.
(30:49):
Also, I just our church juststarted to do a book on prayer.
Pastor is doing it on Wednesdaynights doing it on Wednesday
nights and one of the thingsthat is in this book to do is to
(31:10):
take a Psalm and pray throughthe Psalm, and so I've started
doing that and they do it.
It's really fun because it'slike today is the 19th, so I'm
going to look at Psalm 19.
Like today is the 19th, so I'mgoing to look at Psalm 19.
And, yeah, it's been reallygreat the way sometimes I really
(31:30):
have to work hard at that Psalmto find out what's great about
God or what's great about orwhat if there are any sins I
need to confess through thisPsalm, because it doesn't really
talk about sin.
It doesn't really talk aboutGod per se, but it talks about
(31:52):
the psalmist, or it talks aboutGod's creation.
But with prayer, god has shownme how to see him more in the
(32:12):
things that I don't necessarilyrecognize as him.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
Yeah, I love that.
Okay, oh, my goodness, thatthat was a really powerful thing
for me as well, because Ithought that things were just
maybe happening or it was goodluck.
And once I really started toacknowledge, wow, god, like you
(32:42):
did this.
You answered my prayer, yourprovision is on me, and
acknowledged it and spoke it outloud with gratitude and
repented for my sins.
Like it just became moreobvious every time.
I was like, oh, I see whatyou're doing.
You are such a good father.
That is incredible.
(33:03):
So I love hearing that for you.
That is so fabulous.
And can I just like honor youfor a minute, because you
haven't even shared like a tenthof what you've been going
through in your story and youjumped into Fast of Faith.
You jumped in not only to thecommunity and like, let me do
(33:25):
this program, but let me gothrough the coaching academy and
become a certified coach.
While you were having surgeryyou were having shoulder surgery
and going through recovery andyour husband's going through
stuff.
And I just want to acknowledgethat, because so often we are
waiting for the perfectcircumstance, we are waiting for
(33:48):
life to calm down or for, like,everything to be in its place,
and that is just not what we'recalled to do, right.
So I just want to acknowledgethe fact that you did it, scared
, unready, busy as can be.
(34:09):
You could have had every excuseand instead you just continued
to show up week after week foryourself, for God, for the
sisters in Fasts of Faith, and Ijust want to say job well done.
Like that is incredible girl.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
I was just just before you said that.
I was thinking about one otherway that God has really shown up
for me, and that is that, god,I did have to have shoulder
surgery and there was a longtime where I couldn't move my
arm at all.
And then there was a long timewhen I couldn't take any weight
(34:53):
on my arm at all.
And within during that time ofhealing, my dad, my husband, had
to have double bypass surgery,but by the time he had and I had
to help him well through hisrecovery.
But God had allowed me to healenough that I could help him do
(35:18):
the things he needed to do, thatI could help him do the things
he needed to do, like get up offthe sofa.
I couldn't have done thatearlier in my healing process,
so it was just the right timethat God allowed that to me, to
(35:40):
me to do that, yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
Yeah, he sees everything that we're going to
deal with.
He is preparing a way.
You know his, he, just he.
He always keeps his promises.
He really does.
And when we can trust that hesees the bigger picture and that
we don't really understand atall, then life is just so much
(36:06):
better, like I know you had somuch more peace going through
everything because you were likeI trust you, god.
You have been making a way allof this time.
You're going to continue tomake a way.
I'm going to continue to stayin your word and ask for your
guidance and, you know, be inthe sisterhood of fast to faith
(36:27):
and let these women pray for meand lift me up.
And it's just really powerfulto see how far you've come and
that you are releasing thesefears and these worries and
you're continuing to trust andyou're just it's getting better
and better.
I am so excited for you.
(36:49):
So what would you say, as weclose here, to the woman
listening who is afraid becauseshe's tried all the things, or
she just feels too far gone,like it's not even worth it,
because it's probably not goingto work for me?
I'm just, I have too muchhappening.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
When you, when that you were asking that question,
two quotes came up into my mindand they're very, very similar
quotes.
Uh, one was from WinstonChurchill, who said never give
up, and the other one was fromthe movie galaxy quest, where
(37:35):
the theme was never give up,never surrender.
And and then the other thinghas just been to God had to put
me in a place where I had todepend on him.
I had no other choice but todepend on him, and sometimes
(37:58):
that's where you have to start.
Sometimes you have to startthere and then you have to start
.
Sometimes you have to startthere and then God will use
things like fast of faith orreading your Bible or watching a
(38:19):
silly movie like Galaxy Questto help you move and to help you
heal, help you move intohealing and to help you move.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
Yeah, oh my gosh.
Yes, I always say God doesn'twant to steer a parked car Like.
That is a challenge.
You need to be in some kind offorward action in motion for him
to intervene.
He wants you to be an activeparticipant in your life.
(38:56):
He's not a magic genie in abottle like wish and you know
you get whatever he wants you inthe game.
He wants you putting skin inthe game.
He wants you to move forwardthrough that fear and be brave.
Like Second Timothy says, hedid not give us a spirit of fear
(39:17):
, he gave us a spirit of powerand self discipline.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
So, ladies, of power and self-discipline.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
So, ladies I know this is resonating with you Just
be like Beverly today Juststart.
Start because you're not ready.
Start because you don'tpossibly see a way for it to
work out.
Start because you don't feelequipped.
God wants to help you and Ijust I'm hearing like give him
your five loaves and two fishand he will multiply.
(39:51):
You just give a little and thenhe comes in and he does the
miraculous things.
So thank you for sharing yourincredible journey with us.
You're just getting started,which is the coolest part.
Like I can't wait to see youcoaching women and helping other
women on their journeys throughall of this, because you are an
(40:14):
overcomer.
You're more than a conqueror,just like the Bible says you are
.
You've proven that.
So I'm really proud of you, I'mreally excited for all that
you're going to be doing and Iappreciate you.
Speaker 1 (40:26):
So thank you for sharing Well thank you for
having me on your podcast andallowing me to share with you I
it has been a great experiencefor me, Awesome.
Speaker 2 (40:39):
All right, ladies, go out and be like Beverly today
Just get into messy action.
That's what we say at Fast toFaith Just get into messy action
.
God will clean it up, he'lldirect you, he'll steer you, but
he can't steer a parked car.
So, I love you, go be Christ'shands to serve, but take care of
yourself, ladies, and we'll seeyou soon.
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