October 27, 2025 • 32 mins
We challenge the band-aid approach to women’s midlife health and show how faith and functional medicine uncover root causes behind hormones, fatigue, and heavy periods. We separate myth from evidence on HRT and give clear first steps to advocate for lasting change.
• why conventional gynecology misses upstream causes
• burnout, back pain, and a pivot to functional medicine
• the mindset shift from insurance-driven fixes to real healing
• heavy periods, IUD risks, and synthetic progestin concerns
• functional medicine’s timeline and root-cause method
• estrogen versus progestins and WHI study context
• safer, bioidentical HRT paired with lifestyle repair
• practical first steps to self-advocacy and hope
• inviting God into the healing journey
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SPEAKER_01 (02:06):
Hey, welcome to the Fast of Faith podcast.
I just wanted to jump on hereand say hello.
There are so many new faces.
I'm so excited that you foundme.
Maybe you found me through theCandace Cameron Beret podcast
episodes, and you have heard ofmy pain to purpose story.
I was an OBGYN and I burntmyself out.
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And it wasn't until I went on myown health journey, faith
journey, and healed myself withJesus that I really figured
things out.
God has given me so much wisdomaround our body and how we're
supposed to care for it andnourish it and where the medical
system is really going wrong andsetting us up for chronic
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disease and misery.
So I really wanted to share thisinterview that I did for my
midlife reset summit recently.
That summit is still availableif you want to have it for an
entire year.
The link is in the show notes.
But this interview is necessaryfor every single woman to hear.
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This is what I learned as Istudied functional medicine and
what I realized I didn't know asan OBGYN.
So we're just asking the wrongpeople for help.
And if you listen to thisinterview, you will understand
why your doctor is giving youthe answers they're giving you.
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And you'll really stop feelingso frustrated and you'll start
to see the solutions appear.
So I hope this episode blessesyou.
I hope you share it with everywoman that you know.
My good friend Kirsten Lindquistinterviewed me for why
conventional gynecology andOBGYNs are just getting it wrong
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and where we need to go to getanswers and really thrive in
this next season of our life.
So enjoy.
Shoot me your comments.
I want to hear what else youwant to listen and understand.
I'm here for you.
I love you, and I'll see younext week.
SPEAKER_00 (04:22):
Before we dive in, I want to tell the audience just a
little bit about Dr.
Tabitha Barber because we are sohonored and blessed.
I fell in love with her truly.
I had her on my podcast, andfrom then on, the Lord was like,
You will work with this womanbecause she is amazing.
She's a triple board certifiedOBGYN.
I'm talking about you likeyou're not here, but that's
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okay.
She's a menopause and functionalmedicine physician who has
dedicated her life to helpingwomen reclaim their health in
midlife and beyond.
Her journey is one of true faithgrit and transformation from
being a teenage mom and a highschool dropout to one of the
most sought-after voices inwomen's health today.
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She's got this best-sellingbook, Fast to Faith.
She has her podcast, CoachingAcademy, the National Virtual
Practice, where she sees so manyclients and helps women gain
tangible advice and move theneedle in their lives.
Dr.
Tabitha helps women heal fromstubborn weight, low energy, gut
issues, and hormone imbalanceand addresses really the root
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causes in body, mind, and soul.
She's very passionate aboutexposing the gaps in
conventional medicine andshowing women that midlife is
not the beginning of the end,but it's the start of your
healthiest, most vibrant yearsyet.
And that's why we're here,Doctor.
SPEAKER_01 (05:42):
Gosh, I love that so much.
I hope everybody watching isjust pumped up and excited
because this is going to besuper juicy.
This is not your grandma'smenopause and midlife
transition.
We are women on a mission who,you know, we're doing big things
in the world, whether it'syou're trying to be a stellar
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mom or run a business or run ahome or lead a nonprofit,
whatever is happening.
Or maybe you're caring for youraging parents and you're just in
a rough situation in this seasonof your life.
Like we have got you covered.
So I'm really excited and Iwanted to kick off this whole
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entire week just debunkinghormone myths, talking about
hormones, and helping womenunderstand that hormones are not
the entire picture, right?
SPEAKER_00 (06:36):
Yeah, and I think that that's a perfect place to
start because when we're talkingabout what is going on in
midlife and stubborn weight andanxiety and hormonal issues and
what we need to do as whetheryou're seeing that yet or you
want to get into this season ofyour life, just the best and
most fit version of you, I thinkone of the places we start is
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with conventional medicinebecause unfortunately it has
failed us in the past, which iswhy we need a summit like this,
which is why we need to learnfrom these experts.
So, in your perspective, Doctor,what are the biggest gaps that
you're seeing right now?
And how is how's your ownjourney kind of influenced that
perspective?
SPEAKER_01 (07:18):
I'm so glad we're starting here, Kirsten.
So I like I said, I am aconventionally trained OBGY, and
I spent a couple decadesdedicating my life to what I
thought was the answer, what Ithought was God's plan for me to
help women be healthy and livefruitful lives.
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But when I was in the thick ofit, I burnt myself out.
I destroyed my own healthbecause I was caring for
everybody else, putting everyoneelse first, thinking that is
what God called me to do.
And I got to the point where Iwas falling asleep at my desk.
I couldn't even eat lunch.
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I was so busy.
Or if I would eat, it would beon the way to a delivery while I
was running down the hospitalhallway, leaving dinner with my
children to go and do a deliveryand not coming back until three
or four in the morning.
And I got to this point where Iwas in such chronic back pain
that I could no longer function.
I couldn't sit on the bed andhelp a woman push when she was
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in labor.
And one night I couldn't walkaway from the OR table after I
did an emergency C-section.
So you can imagine how scarythat was, right?
And I went to the orthopedicsurgeon like a good doctor.
And all I knew was like, okay, Ijust need to go to the surgeon.
And I had back surgery.
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I thought it was the only way.
I took six weeks off to heal,which I thought the whole world
was gonna fall apart because weas women were carrying
everything, right?
We're like, the world will fallapart if we take a break.
But I did it.
I was obedient.
And my third night back on call,I re-injured and I couldn't
move.
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I just cried out to God, like,why, God, why?
And I didn't really get ananswer.
So I went back to the surgeonand he said, back surgery is
like lay's potato chips.
You can't have just one.
Well, just put some rods andscrews in your back.
You might herniate above andbelow and need more surgery, but
it's okay.
Like you're gonna be fine.
I do this all of the time.
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And something deep down withinme said, This is not the right
answer.
And so I did the unthinkable.
I took four months off of workand I went on this healing
journey.
And I what I found, Kirsten, wasthis whole world I knew nothing
about health and wellness anddiet and alternative medicine
and white, what it matters whatyou're sleeping and your
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lifestyle and processing yourrelationships.
Like none of this made any senseto me as a doctor.
And what I realized was I was inthis world of disease and
diagnoses and despair.
And so I didn't even know thatwellness existed.
I didn't know you were supposedto feel good and have energy.
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Like it was a foreign concept tome.
So, like, you know, once youreyes are opened, you can't go
back.
And so I went on this path, andnow I'm here.
I'm on a mission to help womenunderstand there is another way.
Conventional medicine is aband-aid approach.
I only had two tools in mytoolbox as a conventional OBGYN
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medications like birth controland surgery, remove the
offending organ.
Those aren't actually healingyour body, those are just
covering up symptoms, thosemessages from your body.
And so we need to know thatthere is another way to do this.
And unfortunately, you have tostep outside of conventional
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medicine, out of your what'scovered by insurance, and your
typical way of approachinghealth, because we're not
talking about diseasemanagement.
We're talking about gettinghealthy and thriving, right?
SPEAKER_00 (11:08):
So the conversation looks totally different.
And I think that we have to stopthere and put kind of an
exclamation point on that,because this is everything
you're gonna hear in this summitis gonna be a mindset shift for
somebody and maybe for all ofyou.
And that first mindset shift ismy insurance should pay for all
of it.
The doctor knows best, and Ijust have to go and take the
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pill or get the surgery.
And it used to be, friends, itused to be that way.
But we have so much at ourfingertips now and so much
research and so much moreinformation that we can not
necessarily just have a band-aidapproach.
We can be proactive.
And that means you're going tohave to get a second, a third,
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or fourth opinion.
That means you're gonna have togo out of pocket to get the best
care in many situations.
But you are worth it.
And I want you to take thataway.
You are worth it.
Your health is worth it becauseyou can't help anybody else if
you're not healthy.
And what Dr.
Tabitha is talking about rightnow is stepping outside of what
you've always learned andopening your mind to these new
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things that you're gonna learnand how they're gonna help you
be well, like she is, as opposedto stay sick.
SPEAKER_01 (12:19):
Yeah.
Oh my gosh, that is that'severything.
So we are gonna talk aboutmindset shift and really
believing in your body's abilityto heal, like getting the hope
back.
Because when women come to me,that's what they say.
You're my only hope.
Like, if this doesn't work, I'mdone.
I've tried everything else.
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And that breaks my heart, butit's also really exciting
because it's such an opportunityfor me because I know what I'm
gonna help them with works.
Like I healed myself, and Iwould love to just share the
fact that I did not stay in mybroken life.
That life was killing me.
Even though I thought God wascalling me to help women and
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serve women and be a doctor, hewasn't calling me to do it that
way.
And one of the aha moments I hadwas he said to me, Yeah, you
told me, let's go.
I'm all in on doing what you'recalling me to do.
But then you left me back in thedelivery room when you were 17
years old and you had your babyand you did it on your own for
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20 years.
And that's why you burntyourself out because you did not
invite me in on the journey.
You did not ask for my help.
You did not lean on me and askme to carry those burdens.
You carried it all yourselfuntil you broke your back.
And so I hope I know that'shitting somebody right in the
heart today.
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Like you needed to hear this,that God is waiting for that
invitation.
He's waiting for you to say,please, Lord, come and help me.
And maybe this is the answer,right?
Maybe this is the answer.
SPEAKER_00 (13:54):
So and how and and knowing you as I have for the
last year or so, it's acontinual decision you have to
make.
It's not like you turned 37, youhad this aha moment, and you're
like, oh, you're right, God.
You've had to go back and say,Oh, yeah, that's right.
I'm following you.
This is not of me.
I'm gonna rededicate my life tofollowing you because life gets
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hard.
And let me remind everybody whenwhen Dr.
Tabitha went through this, shewas, I think, what we would all
consider still young.
Like you were in your 30s.
So the the hormone situationmaybe wasn't at its peak.
And right now it does seem thathormonal imbalance is at the
root of so many midlifestruggles.
Why do you think that women areexperiencing this at such
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alarming rates?
And why is it often sooverlooked?
SPEAKER_01 (14:42):
Yeah, oh my gosh.
This summit is gonna tackle allthe root causes of your hormone
imbalances.
And I'll tell you, while I wasgoing through that chronic back
pain and herniated discs andfailed surgeries and raging
Hashimoto's thyroid disease, Ialso started to have really
heavy periods.
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One night I finally wasn't oncall and I went out with my
girlfriends for a wine aboutwinter where you walk around
downtown in the snow and youdrink, you know, wine and visit
the shops, and I had this bigfluffy white coat on.
I just I was so happy to be withmy friends and not be on call.
And we're all standing theretalking, and all of a sudden I
just felt a gush.
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And I had bled through my pants,and all I could think about was
this beautiful white coat that Ihad on.
And what am I gonna do?
And it got real for me at thatmoment because my girlfriends
were laughing at me.
You're an OBGYN.
Why are you bleeding throughyour pants?
Just have an ablation, just getan IUD, just have a
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hysterectomy.
And in the back of my mind, Iwas like, heck no, know the
truth about all of that stuff.
I'm not signing up for any ofit.
And so thankfully, when I wenton this health journey to fix my
back and studied functionalmedicine through the Cleveland
Clinic and learned all of theseroot cause reasons, I was able
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to balance my hormones and getrid of my heavy periods
naturally.
And I never went on to do thatstuff.
So I just want you to realizelike I was afraid of those
procedures because I know therisks that are involved, yet we
act like it's no big deal and weoffer it to women all of the
time.
And then you're left with thesequelae of that, the
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ramifications, the you know, thecomplications or the side
effects that come from that.
I did try an IUD, Kirsten, and Iwas so suicidal within a week
that I took my IUD out myself athome.
Is that yes?
But it was that scary to me.
I was that was another moment.
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I was like, what are we doing towomen?
I'm sitting here telling them itdoesn't cause anxiety or
depression, and I'm thinkingabout jumping out of this window
right now.
I just got this IUD.
So, like, God has shown me somuch revelation about our health
as women, and I just ampassionate about sharing it with
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you guys because you need toknow the truth about what birth
control is doing to you, whatthese synthetic hormones are
doing to you.
And I know you're beingdismissed, I know you're being
gaslit, and it's not okay withme.
Like it stops this week.
I'm really excited because Ifeel like the women watching
this summit are gonna know morethan their doctor about their
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body by the end of the day.
SPEAKER_00 (17:34):
Absolutely.
And that's a gift to be able tohave this much information at
our fingertips these days,especially when it comes from
experts who you can trust.
Because I will tell you, Dr.
Tabitha and I have vettedeverybody to make sure that
you're getting good quality,science-backed and biblically
backed principles and ideas inthe summit.
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So you kind of touched on itthough, Doctor.
How does how does the functionalmedicine approach to hormones
differ from conventionalgynecology?
SPEAKER_01 (18:01):
Yeah, so like I mentioned earlier, conventional
medicine, I think of it likeband-aid medicine.
You want to stop thehemorrhaging, you want to stop
the bleeding, kind of clean upthe mess.
That is really whereconventional medicine came from
is healing ruptured appendix,taking someone to surgery,
fixing a broken elbow or a leg.
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It's like this acute caresituation.
They are going to keep youalive, hopefully, and help you
be okay.
But there's a huge gap betweendisease and wellness.
The absence of disease does notequal health and vitality.
And so they don't understand howto help your body operate at a
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nice high level, slow down theaging process and actually feel
amazing.
Have your brain working, haveyour body sleeping for eight
hours a night, have you beingable to do all your activities
of daily living without feelingexhausted and drained?
Like those things, that is awhole nother level.
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And that's where functionalmedicine thrives because it
doesn't take care of thesymptom, it takes care of the
root cause reason causing thatsymptom.
So I heard this story actuallyyesterday that I think I should
share.
You're standing at the river,you're standing with a couple of
friends, and there's bodiesfloating down the river, which
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is kind of morbid, right?
And you're pulling them out, andsome are still alive, and you're
resuscitating them, and somedidn't make it, and you need to
take care of them and bury them.
And this just keeps happening,and more bodies keep floating
down the river, and so you'reworking harder to pull the
bodies out and resuscitate themor bury them.
And at one point, I'm thinking,let me walk up the river and see
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what is causing all these bodiesto go into the river.
And that is functional medicine.
We go upstream and we find outwhy is this happening?
We ask the deeper questions,why?
Why are you having heavyperiods?
Why have you suffered fromdepression since you were 10
years old?
Why have you been labeled withirritable bowel syndrome and
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chronic fatigue andfibromyalgia?
There is a reason.
I truly believe the more I studythe Bible and talk to God, he
did not create our bodies tofail us.
He did not like create them in away that they just cannot handle
things.
That is not true.
And that is the narrative thatwe hear when we go see the
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doctor, and the doctor's gonnaheal you, and the doctor has all
the answers.
And it's just not true.
Your body has an incredibleinnate intelligence, it's fully
equipped to take these tasks on.
We just need to know what it'ssaying to us.
These symptoms are not to becovered up.
We are supposed to listen tothem and put them together like
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a puzzle.
Like, what are all these pieces?
You know, my periods, mymigraines, my Raynaud's
syndrome, my numbness andtingling, like you name it,
we're suffering from it.
And if you take all thosepieces, all those symptoms, and
you get to see the picture, theupstream reason of why it's
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happening, then you can actuallyshift and get healthy.
So that's where functionalmedicine shines.
And that's why this summit isdifferent.
SPEAKER_00 (21:28):
So much goodness, so many stories, too, that you're
gonna hear.
Like I'm thinking of myself andsymptoms, and for which, you
know, for instance, coldshoulder or frozen shoulder that
some of you might have as you gointo perimenopause and
menopause.
Like you could go to physicaltherapy, you could go get a
shot, or you could also go andlook at, hey, maybe it's because
I had maybe what's exacerbatingthe pain is inflammation from
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the glass of wine or the excesssugar that I had yesterday.
I see that in myself.
And if we can get you to lookupstream and have the research
to see how your body reacts tothings, your body can stay well
longer.
A little bit of a turn because Iknow we're gonna hear a lot
about this in this summit, butcould you quickly just touch on
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hormone replacement therapy?
There is so much fear andmisinformation about it.
What is your take and why do youbelieve that that fear is really
outdated?
SPEAKER_01 (22:20):
Yeah, this is this is something essential.
I hope every woman watches thisfirst interview because I want
women to understand thatalthough our hormones do make us
who we are, they give us ourpersonality and they make us
feel good and function well.
They are not usually the end-allbe-all answer to helping you
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feel better in midlife.
I promise you, I see women in myvirtual medical practice every
day from around the country, notjust where I live in Michigan,
from California, Maine, Hawaii,everywhere.
They're saying the same thing.
Okay, I got on hormonereplacement therapy.
It felt good for a couplemonths, and now I'm struggling
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again.
And that is because you stillhave root cause issues that you
need to address upstream.
HRT or BHRT is another band-aid,and it's a great band-aid.
Like I promise you, the day Ididn't want to get off the
couch, I didn't want to bemarried anymore, I didn't want
my business anymore.
That was a devastating day.
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I was so depressed, I was likechecked out of life, and it took
me three days to realize Ididn't have any estrogen flowing
in my body.
So being on an estrogen patch isreal for me.
This is how I function, andprogesterone is how I sleep.
So those band-aids are veryhelpful, but I had to do all of
the other stuff too.
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My stress was out of controlduring that time, and so it
drove my early menopause.
And so I needed to go upstreamand address why I was having so
much stress.
And part of it was trying to runthree businesses and grow
things, but part of it was I hadgut infections that I wasn't
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dealing with, and I wasn'tliving the life that my
Hashimoto's thyroid diseaseneeded me to live.
And so this is a journey, youguys.
You got to give yourself grace.
But the more that you start tounderstand how all these pieces
fit together, the better offyou're gonna be.
And let me just speak to hormonereplacement therapy because I
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think it's a gift from God.
You know, people say, well, it'sa natural process.
Doesn't God want us to just gointo menopause and deal with it?
Um, our society has advanced soquickly in the past hundred
years that our physiology andgenetics have not caught up yet.
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We are still going intomenopause at 50 or 51.
Yet, in our new society, that iswhen women are like just coming
into their own.
Their businesses are taking off,they're at the height of like
running the PTAs or doing theirphilanthropy work, like they're
just getting started.
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You know, when my grandma wentto menopause, she was on the
porch knitting, she made dinneron Sundays, but that was about
it.
So I really want us to realizethat God uses really smart
people, He uses science, He usestechnology to help advance and
make our lives better.
And so I'm all for bioidenticalhormone therapy, but there's a
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safe way to do it and a not sosafe way to do it.
And 2002 women's healthinitiative study really
destroyed us because this studywas stopped early and the media
ran with this narrative thatestrogen causes breast cancer.
And I promise you, estrogen doesnot cause breast cancer.
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It took 20 years, but thepublishers and creators of that
study finally admitted we werewrong.
That is not what the data said.
We didn't stop that narrativefrom happening.
We allowed it to continue onbecause we didn't want to
support hormone replacementtherapy for women.
So they came back and theyadmitted all of this.
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But unfortunately, the damagewas done because overnight
doctors stopped prescribinghormones and they were afraid to
be sued.
Patients were afraid of dyingand they panicked and they went
off of their hormones.
And what we have seen over thepast 20 years since that
happened is a huge rise inobesity, in heart disease, in
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osteoporosis, in fractures, inearly death, in dementia, all
because we just like stoppedhormone therapy.
So, what is the truth about thatstudy?
The truth is there were twoparts.
There was women taking estrogenonly because they didn't have a
uterus, and then there werewomen taking estrogen and a
synthetic progestin.
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The synthetic progestin groupwas showing a not even a
statistically significantincrease, but a potential
increase in breast cancer overthe placebo group of people not
taking anything, and so that'swhy they stopped the study.
So there were eight extra breastcancer cases in the estrogen
plus progestin group out of10,000, every 10,000 women.
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So it was a very small increase.
It wasn't the estrogen, it wasthe synthetic progestines, and
we have made a mess of it for 20years.
And the saddest part is that theprogestins are what's in all of
our hormonal birth control.
So we're gonna talk about thatin some of these episodes during
the summit of like, what is aprogestin and how is it
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different than progesterone?
And why are women so confusedand still suffering?
So I just want women to realizelike there are safe ways to do
hormone replacement therapy.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (28:04):
So much learning, so much information.
And your doctor, conventionaldoctor, gets about six minutes,
15 if you're lucky.
So the fact that you can sitdown in these days, in these
episodes, and we're gonna talkabout ways for you to be able to
keep these episodes for a yearto come so you can come back and
listen more before you go to thedoctor.
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But the fact that you can getall of this information and and
be able to go to your doctor andtalk to them about it and make
that that all that all-importantinformed consent piece of it,
you're getting that right here,which I think is great.
Before we let you go, Dr.
Tabitha, for the woman who'swatching who maybe feels
dismissed by doctors orover-medicated, that's a big
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one.
Too many chronic diseases, toomany band-aids at the same time,
too many specialists they'regoing to, and really unsure
where to turn.
What is the first step that theyneed to advocate for themselves
to get real answers?
SPEAKER_01 (29:03):
My goodness, the first step.
Watch these interviews.
Okay.
You signed up, you registeredfor this summit, but now you
need to consume the information,and then you need to talk to God
to try and figure out and getsome discernment around what is
important in my health rightnow.
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What do I need to focus on?
And ask God to show you the fullpicture of what you have been
going through.
That is one of the coolestthings I learned through the
Cleveland Clinic is functionalmedicine practitioners, they
make you fill out like a 30-pageintake form.
But what they do is they createa timeline of your life, of
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everything that has happened toyou.
Did you grow up on a farm?
Were you sexually abused?
When did you start havingbabies?
Like, where have you traveledto?
What have you potentially beenexposed to in your gut?
Like parasites, yeast, differentthings like that.
We look at everything and wewrite out this timeline so that
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we can see you as a full entityof yourself.
Like, were you raised in thechurch?
Do you have spiritual beliefs?
What are your beliefs about youryourself in this universe?
Like all of these thingsactually determine your health
and well-being.
And so if you can start to piecetogether your picture, your
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timeline of oh my gosh, thatmakes so much sense.
This happened, and then I gotmono, and then I got chronic
fatigue, and now I have cancer.
Like, if you can start to putthat timeline together,
everything's gonna be able toshift because then you're gonna
know what your next steps needto be.
So that would be myrecommendation is take in the
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information, try not to feeloverwhelmed.
You can just like pick andchoose if you really are
focused, but invite God intothis conversation with you.
Ask him for guidance on this ofwhat you should be doing and who
you should be watching andlistening to.
Take notes.
I I love the VIP because you canget the written transcripts.
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Like that to me is so powerfulto just have it written down
because you know, I went throughmedical school, I had to consume
a lot of information, and thefirst time it's like drinking
from a fire hose.
And then you go back and youlook at your notes or you listen
to the lecture again, and thenit starts to like sink in, and
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then you focus in on a couplethings.
And then the third time you lookat your notes and you listen to
the lecture, then it starts tosolidify into something real.
So that would be myrecommendation for how to use
this summit to your advantage.
We've created this for you.
SPEAKER_00 (31:54):
Yeah, so true.
Let me do that for you rightnow.
That most important key, whichis invite the Lord in.
Let's invite him in.
Heavenly Father, thank you somuch for every single person who
is watching.
Watching this and listening.
I pray that you open their oureyes, their hearts, their minds
to what you have to say and thetruth behind their health and
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who they are in you.
Lord, help heal people throughthis next week.
We thank you so much forbringing all these people
together and we thank you forDr.
Tepp.
Hey, welcome to the Fast of Faith podcast.
I just wanted to jump on hereand say hello.
There are so many new faces.
I'm so excited that you foundme.
Maybe you found me through theCandace Cameron Beret podcast
episodes, and you have heard ofmy pain to purpose story.
I was an OBGYN and I burntmyself out.
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And it wasn't until I went on myown health journey, faith
journey, and healed myself withJesus that I really figured
things out.
God has given me so much wisdomaround our body and how we're
supposed to care for it andnourish it and where the medical
system is really going wrong andsetting us up for chronic
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disease and misery.
So I really wanted to share thisinterview that I did for my
midlife reset summit recently.
That summit is still availableif you want to have it for an
entire year.
The link is in the show notes.
But this interview is necessaryfor every single woman to hear.
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This is what I learned as Istudied functional medicine and
what I realized I didn't know asan OBGYN.
So we're just asking the wrongpeople for help.
And if you listen to thisinterview, you will understand
why your doctor is giving youthe answers they're giving you.
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And you'll really stop feelingso frustrated and you'll start
to see the solutions appear.
So I hope this episode blessesyou.
I hope you share it with everywoman that you know.
My good friend Kirsten Lindquistinterviewed me for why
conventional gynecology andOBGYNs are just getting it wrong
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and where we need to go to getanswers and really thrive in
this next season of our life.
So enjoy.
Shoot me your comments.
I want to hear what else youwant to listen and understand.
I'm here for you.
I love you, and I'll see younext week.
SPEAKER_00 (04:22):
Before we dive in, I want to tell the audience just a
little bit about Dr.
Tabitha Barber because we are sohonored and blessed.
I fell in love with her truly.
I had her on my podcast, andfrom then on, the Lord was like,
You will work with this womanbecause she is amazing.
She's a triple board certifiedOBGYN.
I'm talking about you likeyou're not here, but that's
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okay.
She's a menopause and functionalmedicine physician who has
dedicated her life to helpingwomen reclaim their health in
midlife and beyond.
Her journey is one of true faithgrit and transformation from
being a teenage mom and a highschool dropout to one of the
most sought-after voices inwomen's health today.
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She's got this best-sellingbook, Fast to Faith.
She has her podcast, CoachingAcademy, the National Virtual
Practice, where she sees so manyclients and helps women gain
tangible advice and move theneedle in their lives.
Dr.
Tabitha helps women heal fromstubborn weight, low energy, gut
issues, and hormone imbalanceand addresses really the root
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causes in body, mind, and soul.
She's very passionate aboutexposing the gaps in
conventional medicine andshowing women that midlife is
not the beginning of the end,but it's the start of your
healthiest, most vibrant yearsyet.
And that's why we're here,Doctor.
SPEAKER_01 (05:42):
Gosh, I love that so much.
I hope everybody watching isjust pumped up and excited
because this is going to besuper juicy.
This is not your grandma'smenopause and midlife
transition.
We are women on a mission who,you know, we're doing big things
in the world, whether it'syou're trying to be a stellar
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mom or run a business or run ahome or lead a nonprofit,
whatever is happening.
Or maybe you're caring for youraging parents and you're just in
a rough situation in this seasonof your life.
Like we have got you covered.
So I'm really excited and Iwanted to kick off this whole
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entire week just debunkinghormone myths, talking about
hormones, and helping womenunderstand that hormones are not
the entire picture, right?
SPEAKER_00 (06:36):
Yeah, and I think that that's a perfect place to
start because when we're talkingabout what is going on in
midlife and stubborn weight andanxiety and hormonal issues and
what we need to do as whetheryou're seeing that yet or you
want to get into this season ofyour life, just the best and
most fit version of you, I thinkone of the places we start is
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with conventional medicinebecause unfortunately it has
failed us in the past, which iswhy we need a summit like this,
which is why we need to learnfrom these experts.
So, in your perspective, Doctor,what are the biggest gaps that
you're seeing right now?
And how is how's your ownjourney kind of influenced that
perspective?
SPEAKER_01 (07:18):
I'm so glad we're starting here, Kirsten.
So I like I said, I am aconventionally trained OBGY, and
I spent a couple decadesdedicating my life to what I
thought was the answer, what Ithought was God's plan for me to
help women be healthy and livefruitful lives.
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But when I was in the thick ofit, I burnt myself out.
I destroyed my own healthbecause I was caring for
everybody else, putting everyoneelse first, thinking that is
what God called me to do.
And I got to the point where Iwas falling asleep at my desk.
I couldn't even eat lunch.
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I was so busy.
Or if I would eat, it would beon the way to a delivery while I
was running down the hospitalhallway, leaving dinner with my
children to go and do a deliveryand not coming back until three
or four in the morning.
And I got to this point where Iwas in such chronic back pain
that I could no longer function.
I couldn't sit on the bed andhelp a woman push when she was
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in labor.
And one night I couldn't walkaway from the OR table after I
did an emergency C-section.
So you can imagine how scarythat was, right?
And I went to the orthopedicsurgeon like a good doctor.
And all I knew was like, okay, Ijust need to go to the surgeon.
And I had back surgery.
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I thought it was the only way.
I took six weeks off to heal,which I thought the whole world
was gonna fall apart because weas women were carrying
everything, right?
We're like, the world will fallapart if we take a break.
But I did it.
I was obedient.
And my third night back on call,I re-injured and I couldn't
move.
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I just cried out to God, like,why, God, why?
And I didn't really get ananswer.
So I went back to the surgeonand he said, back surgery is
like lay's potato chips.
You can't have just one.
Well, just put some rods andscrews in your back.
You might herniate above andbelow and need more surgery, but
it's okay.
Like you're gonna be fine.
I do this all of the time.
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And something deep down withinme said, This is not the right
answer.
And so I did the unthinkable.
I took four months off of workand I went on this healing
journey.
And I what I found, Kirsten, wasthis whole world I knew nothing
about health and wellness anddiet and alternative medicine
and white, what it matters whatyou're sleeping and your
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lifestyle and processing yourrelationships.
Like none of this made any senseto me as a doctor.
And what I realized was I was inthis world of disease and
diagnoses and despair.
And so I didn't even know thatwellness existed.
I didn't know you were supposedto feel good and have energy.
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Like it was a foreign concept tome.
So, like, you know, once youreyes are opened, you can't go
back.
And so I went on this path, andnow I'm here.
I'm on a mission to help womenunderstand there is another way.
Conventional medicine is aband-aid approach.
I only had two tools in mytoolbox as a conventional OBGYN
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medications like birth controland surgery, remove the
offending organ.
Those aren't actually healingyour body, those are just
covering up symptoms, thosemessages from your body.
And so we need to know thatthere is another way to do this.
And unfortunately, you have tostep outside of conventional
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medicine, out of your what'scovered by insurance, and your
typical way of approachinghealth, because we're not
talking about diseasemanagement.
We're talking about gettinghealthy and thriving, right?
SPEAKER_00 (11:08):
So the conversation looks totally different.
And I think that we have to stopthere and put kind of an
exclamation point on that,because this is everything
you're gonna hear in this summitis gonna be a mindset shift for
somebody and maybe for all ofyou.
And that first mindset shift ismy insurance should pay for all
of it.
The doctor knows best, and Ijust have to go and take the
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pill or get the surgery.
And it used to be, friends, itused to be that way.
But we have so much at ourfingertips now and so much
research and so much moreinformation that we can not
necessarily just have a band-aidapproach.
We can be proactive.
And that means you're going tohave to get a second, a third,
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or fourth opinion.
That means you're gonna have togo out of pocket to get the best
care in many situations.
But you are worth it.
And I want you to take thataway.
You are worth it.
Your health is worth it becauseyou can't help anybody else if
you're not healthy.
And what Dr.
Tabitha is talking about rightnow is stepping outside of what
you've always learned andopening your mind to these new
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things that you're gonna learnand how they're gonna help you
be well, like she is, as opposedto stay sick.
SPEAKER_01 (12:19):
Yeah.
Oh my gosh, that is that'severything.
So we are gonna talk aboutmindset shift and really
believing in your body's abilityto heal, like getting the hope
back.
Because when women come to me,that's what they say.
You're my only hope.
Like, if this doesn't work, I'mdone.
I've tried everything else.
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And that breaks my heart, butit's also really exciting
because it's such an opportunityfor me because I know what I'm
gonna help them with works.
Like I healed myself, and Iwould love to just share the
fact that I did not stay in mybroken life.
That life was killing me.
Even though I thought God wascalling me to help women and
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serve women and be a doctor, hewasn't calling me to do it that
way.
And one of the aha moments I hadwas he said to me, Yeah, you
told me, let's go.
I'm all in on doing what you'recalling me to do.
But then you left me back in thedelivery room when you were 17
years old and you had your babyand you did it on your own for
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20 years.
And that's why you burntyourself out because you did not
invite me in on the journey.
You did not ask for my help.
You did not lean on me and askme to carry those burdens.
You carried it all yourselfuntil you broke your back.
And so I hope I know that'shitting somebody right in the
heart today.
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Like you needed to hear this,that God is waiting for that
invitation.
He's waiting for you to say,please, Lord, come and help me.
And maybe this is the answer,right?
Maybe this is the answer.
SPEAKER_00 (13:54):
So and how and and knowing you as I have for the
last year or so, it's acontinual decision you have to
make.
It's not like you turned 37, youhad this aha moment, and you're
like, oh, you're right, God.
You've had to go back and say,Oh, yeah, that's right.
I'm following you.
This is not of me.
I'm gonna rededicate my life tofollowing you because life gets
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hard.
And let me remind everybody whenwhen Dr.
Tabitha went through this, shewas, I think, what we would all
consider still young.
Like you were in your 30s.
So the the hormone situationmaybe wasn't at its peak.
And right now it does seem thathormonal imbalance is at the
root of so many midlifestruggles.
Why do you think that women areexperiencing this at such
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alarming rates?
And why is it often sooverlooked?
SPEAKER_01 (14:42):
Yeah, oh my gosh.
This summit is gonna tackle allthe root causes of your hormone
imbalances.
And I'll tell you, while I wasgoing through that chronic back
pain and herniated discs andfailed surgeries and raging
Hashimoto's thyroid disease, Ialso started to have really
heavy periods.
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One night I finally wasn't oncall and I went out with my
girlfriends for a wine aboutwinter where you walk around
downtown in the snow and youdrink, you know, wine and visit
the shops, and I had this bigfluffy white coat on.
I just I was so happy to be withmy friends and not be on call.
And we're all standing theretalking, and all of a sudden I
just felt a gush.
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And I had bled through my pants,and all I could think about was
this beautiful white coat that Ihad on.
And what am I gonna do?
And it got real for me at thatmoment because my girlfriends
were laughing at me.
You're an OBGYN.
Why are you bleeding throughyour pants?
Just have an ablation, just getan IUD, just have a
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hysterectomy.
And in the back of my mind, Iwas like, heck no, know the
truth about all of that stuff.
I'm not signing up for any ofit.
And so thankfully, when I wenton this health journey to fix my
back and studied functionalmedicine through the Cleveland
Clinic and learned all of theseroot cause reasons, I was able
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to balance my hormones and getrid of my heavy periods
naturally.
And I never went on to do thatstuff.
So I just want you to realizelike I was afraid of those
procedures because I know therisks that are involved, yet we
act like it's no big deal and weoffer it to women all of the
time.
And then you're left with thesequelae of that, the
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ramifications, the you know, thecomplications or the side
effects that come from that.
I did try an IUD, Kirsten, and Iwas so suicidal within a week
that I took my IUD out myself athome.
Is that yes?
But it was that scary to me.
I was that was another moment.
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I was like, what are we doing towomen?
I'm sitting here telling them itdoesn't cause anxiety or
depression, and I'm thinkingabout jumping out of this window
right now.
I just got this IUD.
So, like, God has shown me somuch revelation about our health
as women, and I just ampassionate about sharing it with
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you guys because you need toknow the truth about what birth
control is doing to you, whatthese synthetic hormones are
doing to you.
And I know you're beingdismissed, I know you're being
gaslit, and it's not okay withme.
Like it stops this week.
I'm really excited because Ifeel like the women watching
this summit are gonna know morethan their doctor about their
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body by the end of the day.
SPEAKER_00 (17:34):
Absolutely.
And that's a gift to be able tohave this much information at
our fingertips these days,especially when it comes from
experts who you can trust.
Because I will tell you, Dr.
Tabitha and I have vettedeverybody to make sure that
you're getting good quality,science-backed and biblically
backed principles and ideas inthe summit.
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So you kind of touched on itthough, Doctor.
How does how does the functionalmedicine approach to hormones
differ from conventionalgynecology?
SPEAKER_01 (18:01):
Yeah, so like I mentioned earlier, conventional
medicine, I think of it likeband-aid medicine.
You want to stop thehemorrhaging, you want to stop
the bleeding, kind of clean upthe mess.
That is really whereconventional medicine came from
is healing ruptured appendix,taking someone to surgery,
fixing a broken elbow or a leg.
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It's like this acute caresituation.
They are going to keep youalive, hopefully, and help you
be okay.
But there's a huge gap betweendisease and wellness.
The absence of disease does notequal health and vitality.
And so they don't understand howto help your body operate at a
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nice high level, slow down theaging process and actually feel
amazing.
Have your brain working, haveyour body sleeping for eight
hours a night, have you beingable to do all your activities
of daily living without feelingexhausted and drained?
Like those things, that is awhole nother level.
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And that's where functionalmedicine thrives because it
doesn't take care of thesymptom, it takes care of the
root cause reason causing thatsymptom.
So I heard this story actuallyyesterday that I think I should
share.
You're standing at the river,you're standing with a couple of
friends, and there's bodiesfloating down the river, which
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is kind of morbid, right?
And you're pulling them out, andsome are still alive, and you're
resuscitating them, and somedidn't make it, and you need to
take care of them and bury them.
And this just keeps happening,and more bodies keep floating
down the river, and so you'reworking harder to pull the
bodies out and resuscitate themor bury them.
And at one point, I'm thinking,let me walk up the river and see
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what is causing all these bodiesto go into the river.
And that is functional medicine.
We go upstream and we find outwhy is this happening?
We ask the deeper questions,why?
Why are you having heavyperiods?
Why have you suffered fromdepression since you were 10
years old?
Why have you been labeled withirritable bowel syndrome and
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chronic fatigue andfibromyalgia?
There is a reason.
I truly believe the more I studythe Bible and talk to God, he
did not create our bodies tofail us.
He did not like create them in away that they just cannot handle
things.
That is not true.
And that is the narrative thatwe hear when we go see the
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doctor, and the doctor's gonnaheal you, and the doctor has all
the answers.
And it's just not true.
Your body has an incredibleinnate intelligence, it's fully
equipped to take these tasks on.
We just need to know what it'ssaying to us.
These symptoms are not to becovered up.
We are supposed to listen tothem and put them together like
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a puzzle.
Like, what are all these pieces?
You know, my periods, mymigraines, my Raynaud's
syndrome, my numbness andtingling, like you name it,
we're suffering from it.
And if you take all thosepieces, all those symptoms, and
you get to see the picture, theupstream reason of why it's
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happening, then you can actuallyshift and get healthy.
So that's where functionalmedicine shines.
And that's why this summit isdifferent.
SPEAKER_00 (21:28):
So much goodness, so many stories, too, that you're
gonna hear.
Like I'm thinking of myself andsymptoms, and for which, you
know, for instance, coldshoulder or frozen shoulder that
some of you might have as you gointo perimenopause and
menopause.
Like you could go to physicaltherapy, you could go get a
shot, or you could also go andlook at, hey, maybe it's because
I had maybe what's exacerbatingthe pain is inflammation from
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the glass of wine or the excesssugar that I had yesterday.
I see that in myself.
And if we can get you to lookupstream and have the research
to see how your body reacts tothings, your body can stay well
longer.
A little bit of a turn because Iknow we're gonna hear a lot
about this in this summit, butcould you quickly just touch on
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hormone replacement therapy?
There is so much fear andmisinformation about it.
What is your take and why do youbelieve that that fear is really
outdated?
SPEAKER_01 (22:20):
Yeah, this is this is something essential.
I hope every woman watches thisfirst interview because I want
women to understand thatalthough our hormones do make us
who we are, they give us ourpersonality and they make us
feel good and function well.
They are not usually the end-allbe-all answer to helping you
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feel better in midlife.
I promise you, I see women in myvirtual medical practice every
day from around the country, notjust where I live in Michigan,
from California, Maine, Hawaii,everywhere.
They're saying the same thing.
Okay, I got on hormonereplacement therapy.
It felt good for a couplemonths, and now I'm struggling
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again.
And that is because you stillhave root cause issues that you
need to address upstream.
HRT or BHRT is another band-aid,and it's a great band-aid.
Like I promise you, the day Ididn't want to get off the
couch, I didn't want to bemarried anymore, I didn't want
my business anymore.
That was a devastating day.
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I was so depressed, I was likechecked out of life, and it took
me three days to realize Ididn't have any estrogen flowing
in my body.
So being on an estrogen patch isreal for me.
This is how I function, andprogesterone is how I sleep.
So those band-aids are veryhelpful, but I had to do all of
the other stuff too.
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My stress was out of controlduring that time, and so it
drove my early menopause.
And so I needed to go upstreamand address why I was having so
much stress.
And part of it was trying to runthree businesses and grow
things, but part of it was I hadgut infections that I wasn't
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dealing with, and I wasn'tliving the life that my
Hashimoto's thyroid diseaseneeded me to live.
And so this is a journey, youguys.
You got to give yourself grace.
But the more that you start tounderstand how all these pieces
fit together, the better offyou're gonna be.
And let me just speak to hormonereplacement therapy because I
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think it's a gift from God.
You know, people say, well, it'sa natural process.
Doesn't God want us to just gointo menopause and deal with it?
Um, our society has advanced soquickly in the past hundred
years that our physiology andgenetics have not caught up yet.
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We are still going intomenopause at 50 or 51.
Yet, in our new society, that iswhen women are like just coming
into their own.
Their businesses are taking off,they're at the height of like
running the PTAs or doing theirphilanthropy work, like they're
just getting started.
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You know, when my grandma wentto menopause, she was on the
porch knitting, she made dinneron Sundays, but that was about
it.
So I really want us to realizethat God uses really smart
people, He uses science, He usestechnology to help advance and
make our lives better.
And so I'm all for bioidenticalhormone therapy, but there's a
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safe way to do it and a not sosafe way to do it.
And 2002 women's healthinitiative study really
destroyed us because this studywas stopped early and the media
ran with this narrative thatestrogen causes breast cancer.
And I promise you, estrogen doesnot cause breast cancer.
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It took 20 years, but thepublishers and creators of that
study finally admitted we werewrong.
That is not what the data said.
We didn't stop that narrativefrom happening.
We allowed it to continue onbecause we didn't want to
support hormone replacementtherapy for women.
So they came back and theyadmitted all of this.
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But unfortunately, the damagewas done because overnight
doctors stopped prescribinghormones and they were afraid to
be sued.
Patients were afraid of dyingand they panicked and they went
off of their hormones.
And what we have seen over thepast 20 years since that
happened is a huge rise inobesity, in heart disease, in
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osteoporosis, in fractures, inearly death, in dementia, all
because we just like stoppedhormone therapy.
So, what is the truth about thatstudy?
The truth is there were twoparts.
There was women taking estrogenonly because they didn't have a
uterus, and then there werewomen taking estrogen and a
synthetic progestin.
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The synthetic progestin groupwas showing a not even a
statistically significantincrease, but a potential
increase in breast cancer overthe placebo group of people not
taking anything, and so that'swhy they stopped the study.
So there were eight extra breastcancer cases in the estrogen
plus progestin group out of10,000, every 10,000 women.
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So it was a very small increase.
It wasn't the estrogen, it wasthe synthetic progestines, and
we have made a mess of it for 20years.
And the saddest part is that theprogestins are what's in all of
our hormonal birth control.
So we're gonna talk about thatin some of these episodes during
the summit of like, what is aprogestin and how is it
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different than progesterone?
And why are women so confusedand still suffering?
So I just want women to realizelike there are safe ways to do
hormone replacement therapy.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (28:04):
So much learning, so much information.
And your doctor, conventionaldoctor, gets about six minutes,
15 if you're lucky.
So the fact that you can sitdown in these days, in these
episodes, and we're gonna talkabout ways for you to be able to
keep these episodes for a yearto come so you can come back and
listen more before you go to thedoctor.
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But the fact that you can getall of this information and and
be able to go to your doctor andtalk to them about it and make
that that all that all-importantinformed consent piece of it,
you're getting that right here,which I think is great.
Before we let you go, Dr.
Tabitha, for the woman who'swatching who maybe feels
dismissed by doctors orover-medicated, that's a big
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one.
Too many chronic diseases, toomany band-aids at the same time,
too many specialists they'regoing to, and really unsure
where to turn.
What is the first step that theyneed to advocate for themselves
to get real answers?
SPEAKER_01 (29:03):
My goodness, the first step.
Watch these interviews.
Okay.
You signed up, you registeredfor this summit, but now you
need to consume the information,and then you need to talk to God
to try and figure out and getsome discernment around what is
important in my health rightnow.
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What do I need to focus on?
And ask God to show you the fullpicture of what you have been
going through.
That is one of the coolestthings I learned through the
Cleveland Clinic is functionalmedicine practitioners, they
make you fill out like a 30-pageintake form.
But what they do is they createa timeline of your life, of
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everything that has happened toyou.
Did you grow up on a farm?
Were you sexually abused?
When did you start havingbabies?
Like, where have you traveledto?
What have you potentially beenexposed to in your gut?
Like parasites, yeast, differentthings like that.
We look at everything and wewrite out this timeline so that
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we can see you as a full entityof yourself.
Like, were you raised in thechurch?
Do you have spiritual beliefs?
What are your beliefs about youryourself in this universe?
Like all of these thingsactually determine your health
and well-being.
And so if you can start to piecetogether your picture, your
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timeline of oh my gosh, thatmakes so much sense.
This happened, and then I gotmono, and then I got chronic
fatigue, and now I have cancer.
Like, if you can start to putthat timeline together,
everything's gonna be able toshift because then you're gonna
know what your next steps needto be.
So that would be myrecommendation is take in the
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information, try not to feeloverwhelmed.
You can just like pick andchoose if you really are
focused, but invite God intothis conversation with you.
Ask him for guidance on this ofwhat you should be doing and who
you should be watching andlistening to.
Take notes.
I I love the VIP because you canget the written transcripts.
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Like that to me is so powerfulto just have it written down
because you know, I went throughmedical school, I had to consume
a lot of information, and thefirst time it's like drinking
from a fire hose.
And then you go back and youlook at your notes or you listen
to the lecture again, and thenit starts to like sink in, and
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then you focus in on a couplethings.
And then the third time you lookat your notes and you listen to
the lecture, then it starts tosolidify into something real.
So that would be myrecommendation for how to use
this summit to your advantage.
We've created this for you.
SPEAKER_00 (31:54):
Yeah, so true.
Let me do that for you rightnow.
That most important key, whichis invite the Lord in.
Let's invite him in.
Heavenly Father, thank you somuch for every single person who
is watching.
Watching this and listening.
I pray that you open their oureyes, their hearts, their minds
to what you have to say and thetruth behind their health and
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who they are in you.
Lord, help heal people throughthis next week.
We thank you so much forbringing all these people
together and we thank you forDr.
Tepp.
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