October 7, 2024 • 62 mins
ETERNAL GLORY! That is what awaits the FDH fan that listens to this episode! In part one of this two part episode, Dave, Jon, and Ben along with TWO additional special guest experts - Kathy (Dave's wife) and Kayla (Dave's oldest daughter) - discuss Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire. They share a food related to the theme, talk about favorite scenes, heroes and villains, and share their favorite quotes. They go through a Triwizard Tournament - Fat, Dumb, and Happy style! What would you Accio in the first task? Which underwater spell would you use? Reminisce and laugh with us in this great episode!
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Whatever really happened to dudes calling each other best friends?
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Dave and John grew up in the 80s in New Jersey and they did everything together.
They were the quintessential best friends until they became teenagers and Dave moved away.
Fast forward to today and these two 40-somethings reconnected and decided to not only be besties again,
but to put on a podcast and share their reunion with anyone who will listen.
Welcome to Fat, Dumb & Happy.
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Eternal Glory
Eternal Glory!
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That's what awaits the FDH fan that listens to this episode.
Welcome back everyone to another magical episode of Fat, Dumb & Happy.
This episode we are going to fly our firebolts into Harry Potter 4 and 5.
Representing Durmstrang is my bro-host John.
John, are you going to win the Triwizard Tournament tonight you think?
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Of course I am, absolutely.
You know I picked you for Durmstrang because you got the Durmstrang goatee and you know you're rocking it.
Yeah, got it.
If we were Durmstrang bros back in the day, I definitely would have been that guy that did the whole Flippies thing, you know?
And then I think you'd be the guy that blew the fire out.
Yeah, yeah, you know me and fire. We have history.
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Exactly, and then Ben would be in the drums in the background.
It'd be awesome.
Alright, from Hogwarts we have our in-house special guest expert from the House of Ravenclaw, Ben.
Ben!
How did you get past that age line, Ben?
Well, that potion that made me a little younger so that I could go in with the high schoolers, you know?
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That's the only way.
Exactly, nice.
And we have again a super special guest expert representing Bobatons, Kathy.
Kathy, do you think the Bobatons had a killer Quidditch team?
Sure, yes. They were graceful.
Graceful probably did win a lot of Quidditch games there, Kathy.
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That's true. It takes a lot of grace to get that snitch and stuff, yeah.
Wait, wait, wait. What's this?
A fourth participant in the Triwizard Tournament and additional super special guest expert?
Another Hogwarts student. This one hailing from Hufflepuff, Kayla.
Kayla, did you put your name in the Goblet of Fire?
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No, sir.
No, sir. Nice.
Oh, man, Dumbledore was so intense in that part of the movie. That's so funny.
I'll rip you for your name in the Goblet of Fire.
No, sir.
So let me just introduce Kayla a little bit. She is our oldest daughter, Kathy and I, and she is also a Harry Potter super fan.
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We're super excited to have her on the podcast with us.
Being the first in our family, she was the first of the kids to read all the books, to watch all the movies, and have a Harry Potter themed party.
She has an expert memory. She's really good at remembering things from movies, and she may or may not have had crushes on one or more of the actors at some point in her life.
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True or not true, Kayla? True or not true?
It's true.
Totally understandable.
Did one of those actors become a vampire later in life?
Yep.
Oh, okay, gotcha.
That's one.
It's understandable. There's a lot of good looking boys in this movie.
Quick note, just a reminder that we will be talking about a lot of spoilers from these books and movies.
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Hopefully, if you're listening to this podcast, you've seen and read the movies and books already, but if not, pause, give us five stars and watch them already.
Alright, now over to the food portion of our podcast, John.
That's right, because what episode of Fat, Dumb, and Happy would be complete without a food portion of this show?
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So, you know, you guys know we always try to do something related to whatever category we're talking about, no matter what it is.
We're gonna start because I think they cheated, but you know.
Okay, so Dave, Kathy, and Kayla, they all got the same Harry Potter themed food going on. What are you guys drinking or eating? What is that?
Yeah, so we got fizzing whizbees. Kayla, you want to tell us more about it, what these things really are?
So these are called Zots, and they are hard candies, and they have like a fizzy chemical in it. So it's like a soda candy when you bite into the middle.
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Yeah, have you guys had these before by chance?
No, never. I've never even heard of those.
I think I've tried Zots before, like once or twice, but not a lot. Yeah, they are good.
Where do you get them?
By below.
Ah, okay.
Yep. And I guess the actual fizzing whizbees from the book and movie allows you to levitate. So we'll see how that does with these Zots.
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It's just a magical episode. We may just levitate. We'll see.
Man, if you guys start levitating, we're really onto something on this podcast.
All right, all right. Now, what kind of flavors, are you all have the same flavor or is it different flavors or what?
Yeah, there's all kinds of flavors. There's blue raspberry, strawberry, cherry, green apple. What else?
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Watermelon. Yep. I think that's it. I think that's it.
Those sound way better than the grape Nyquil I've been drinking.
I kind of like the black cherry taste. No, I'm just kidding.
Dude, these things are cool because I got it in the side of my mouth even in my cheek and it's like foaming. It's cool. It tastes good.
All right. I'll take your word for it. You have to send me one Zot.
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Did you see that? Show the camera again, Kathy.
Oh, it's coming. See, it's like foaming. Out the side. Oh, wow.
And it's like a candy with rabies.
Yes. But it's edible.
Very, very interesting. OK, well, Dave, you'll have to send me one Zot in the mail.
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Will do, dude. OK, well, you guys enjoy your fizzing whizzbees. Ben, what do you got going on tonight?
So my daughter just got back from a study abroad thing to London, England. Oh, sweet.
So she brought me back what's called a digestive. It is a British biscuit, which is like a cookie kind of thing.
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You know, I don't know. It's sort of chewy, but a kind of a cross between a like a chewy cookie and a cracker.
That's like a dry cracker. So I don't know. A little biscuit. Anyway, they call them digestives, which kind of sounds weird to me.
I just thought, you know, it's a British thing from a British movie. Why don't we do it? Yeah, I love it.
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First of all, that's awesome that she got to go to London. I've been there a couple of times. It's a really cool place to visit.
Yeah, that looks kind of like like a waffle kind of little chocolate on it. Yeah, that's what it looks like.
That's what it looked like to me. All right. I was thinking too, yeah. OK, well, look, guys, my food, I was going to do something kind of cool,
but it didn't pan out exactly as I needed to. I'll get that worked out for the next one.
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So I went a little nuts and I'm doing this. Don't drop it. Don't drop it. I almost dropped it.
Nice. The happy birthday Harry cake. Oh, wow. That looks exactly like it.
That is even spelled the way Hagrid would have spelled it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
So I'm going to do a piece of cake and I'm going to let you know I hate strawberry frosting.
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So I'm going to eat like one piece, just a small piece. I got some milk here ready to go.
I'm going to eat that real quick and we'll see what happens to the rest of there is a ton of frosting on that thing.
I'm going to do it. I want you to eat that whole cake before the end of the episode, John.
This is not Matilda. OK. Yeah. I'm going to do it like Dudley though. Right. Yeah. Like Dudley. Yeah, exactly.
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Get that pinky tail. I don't need a pinky tail. I'm good.
All right. So we're diving in here. So for the listener, we are, you know, we took a summer break.
We're recording this in the summer. It actually was Harry Potter's birthday just the other day.
So this is perfect. July 31st. Yes. Happy birthday to Harry yesterday.
What flavor cake is your cake? It's chocolate. It is chocolate.
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There we go. Just like in the movie and then strawberry frosting and it's got vanilla frosting in the middle, which I can do vanilla.
I'm not a big frosting guy. Like overall, I prefer minimal frosting on my cupcakes and cakes and stuff like that.
I will tell you, I make one of the most moist box cake recipes ever. Nice. This thing is super moist.
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I'm going to pull a Draco and be like, I didn't know you could bake.
What's a nice little braid? But that's not true because even when we were kids, dude, you would do the shake and bake.
You guys remember shake and bake at all? Shake and bake for a child, baby.
Make those and then you would like just eat just the plain crusties or whatever from the shake and bake mix.
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That's awesome. That's my origin story of how we became fat for the fat, dumb and happy.
But yeah, man, this cake is moist. So happy birthday, Harry. Appreciate you. Let me celebrate your birthday.
Here, here. Cheers. You guys know how old he is? 44. Born 1980.
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Wow. Yep. Yep.
But you're 44.
Wait, are you talking about the actor or are you talking about the character?
The character in the book.
Oh, OK.
Like supposedly, like that's when in the book, J.K. Rowling said he was born in 1980.
Yeah. All right. That works. Good deal.
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So right now, these movies, these books that we're talking about tonight are from 1994, 95. The timeline.
All right. Send me a piece of that cake. Yeah, I'll send it. It should be.
Same time. Same time.
All right. Well, let's start it off with the main event, man.
We are talking about the fourth and fifth movies of the Harry Potter series or books, depending on which one you prefer.
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And we are going to start off with Goblet of Fire.
What things stood out to you about Goblet of Fire, like things that stood out or the themes?
So one thing real quick for me is that this is like the year that they start kind of noticing the opposite gender more, it seems like.
They had crushes. Yes. You know, the dance.
They were just into that stage of development, I guess.
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So I think that's kind of fun and relatable, right? It's like they're awkward. They're nervous and it's kind of fun.
What, when she tries to teach them how to dance? Oh, it's one of my favorites. We'll talk about that later. It's one of my favorites.
I think it's interesting how, like, we always see just their perspective.
You know what I mean? Like, we don't see Fred and George's awkward liking girls stage either. You know what I mean?
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True, true. You know, that might have happened maybe their first year there or something like that.
They knew their brothers were there, but it was like they're oblivious to what was going on with the older, the younger pretty much.
Everything centers around that. So this is really the first time you have inter-age interactions to a significant amount.
Yes, I agree with that too, for sure.
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Kathy and Kayla, any other major themes or things you took away from this movie?
Just noticing there's always the theme of friendship between them.
And so in this one that Ron, you know, it's kind of in the middle, but he kind of gets a little jealous.
He gets jealous, and then they repair again and trying to navigate that. And then they repair, you know, and that's awkward. That's so funny.
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We'll talk about that later too. But just that happens in friendships and relationships.
And so I love that J.K. Rowling just like kept that real. Like, yeah, that happens, you know.
Yeah.
Chelsea, you work it out. But yeah, everything else you guys said to that theme with this one.
And I think too, just they're a little older and their character develops a little bit more too.
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You know, like the choices that they make. Just a little bit more of like, what are they going to choose?
And who do I want to be? And I like that theme too.
Yeah. Kayla?
I think something that I noticed is that when Harry gets chosen for the Triwizard Tournament,
I think that's when everyone started being a little like, okay, we're getting a little bit tired of Harry getting all the attention again.
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That's true. Yeah, that's true.
I think that's when people started to dislike him, you know, especially when it comes to support when he's playing the games.
That's interesting. So that's why they started getting all the Potter Stinks badges and everything like that.
Yeah.
Harry, that was terrible.
That's interesting. I hadn't thought about that.
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My question is, yes, like you guys said, they always hand on their friendship between the two.
I don't get why Ron doesn't believe Harry.
Yeah.
They were together 23 and a half hours a day.
They got like 30 minutes for potty breaks.
Yeah.
You know, but like, I mean, how do you not, I mean, you guys are together all the time.
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How would he have slipped his name in there? I don't get it.
Yeah, that's a really good point.
It's like, yo, we hang out like 24-7. When did you see me put my name in there?
That's valid.
Green Eye and Envy Monster.
Yes, that's just going to say that too, yep.
Jealousy and like Kayla was saying too, I think that jealousy with the other kids too, like, you know, kids can be really cruel.
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Yeah. And like Kayla was saying too, like how many years in a row can this guy be the hero?
You know what I mean? Like, they're like tired of Harry, but no, I get it.
Devin apparently.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
All right. Well, why don't we start off with the Triwizard Tournament with Kathy, that dumb and happy style.
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Yes, Triwizard Tournament, the fat, dumb and happy style.
Oh, there it is.
We got the Triwizard Cup.
Oh, man.
That's impressive. It's like bouncing the lights, like shining from your lights on the ceiling to the Triwizard Tournament Cup.
Yeah, that's awesome.
Dave, turn that thing into a porky and come visit me, okay?
Yeah, for real, right?
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We'll work on that.
So just like the Triwizard Tournament, there are three tasks.
And so this first one, they had to think about playing to their strengths and they all kind of find out that they're going to be battling dragons with Hagrid out there.
And even Hagrid was like, they're just misunderstood creatures with that one.
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Yeah.
Nasty.
Not a warren's tale.
So we're going to go through and what would you do, like if you play to your strengths, what would you accio for your first task?
So, John, what would you do?
I don't have a strength of running. That doesn't work for me.
So I'm going to accio Harry Potter's cloak of invisibility.
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That way I could just hide and run up to the little leg and I'll be fine. And I win.
There you go.
I'm taking the easy route. I think that's the way to go.
You just take your time, sit down for a break if you need to on the way.
The dragon's like, where is this guy?
I'm right by the egg, you silly goose.
Yeah.
Maybe they're like dinosaurs in Jurassic Park, right? They just can't see if you're not moving or whatever.
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Yeah. So then I pick up the egg and he's like, ah, he got me. He got me.
That's how I win the first task.
Awesome.
So Dave, what would you accio?
All right. So I got a different strategy.
And I'm playing like I am Harry Potter in the fourth movie.
So I would accio Colin Creavy because he's so annoying.
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And then have him be a decoy, maybe even bait. I don't know, depending how I feel.
And maybe his camera flashes could distract the dragon while I go get that egg.
So that's what I would do.
Okay. All right. All right. Yeah. All right. Ben, what about you?
I don't think I have any of the strengths needed to win this beyond just like maybe cheating.
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So I was actually tempted to accio the Felix Felicis, you know, the liquid luck.
But I know that's not allowed in like any of these tournament things.
So instead I'm going to accio Aladdin's lamp.
Maybe I'll wish for the dragons to shrink to microscopic size or something.
There you go.
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I like it. That's awesome.
So you're going to accio Robin Williams.
None of us have any skills in this realm. So you can cheat all you want. It's fine.
Yeah. I like the tactic. Good job, Ben.
Crossing like fantasy dimensions and things. It's all good.
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Awesome. We like Disney and Harry Potter. So that works.
Yes. All right. Kayla, what about you?
So I was going to do the Invisibility Cloak too, but the idea got stolen.
So I thought I'd do Exploding Snaps because I thought they were like firecrackers.
So I just like throw it kind of either like over it or in an area to where it might just turn around real quick.
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And I might run to where I need to go and just keep doing it until I eventually get there and then just end it right then there.
Can I make a suggestion? Yes. So you're talking about like little snaps you throw at the ground, right?
Like a little pop step. Okay. Yeah. Why don't you accio the Weasley's fireworks?
Oh, there you go.
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That's amazing. That would totally distract them. I think you'd totally get the egg that way.
That's a smart idea. And I feel like that's like the most fair one so far. Like that's the most.
Good job, Kayla.
All right. So for me, I would just this is Kayden's idea actually.
I'm going to share his the accio golden egg. Like just do that. Just get the egg.
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Just accio it. Yeah.
I mean, genius. That's the quickest victory ever.
Yeah. He's like, why don't they just do that? And I'm like, that's a good idea. I mean, nobody thought of it.
Pretty smart there, Kathy. I told David this was a real thing. Like probably accio a pizza and stay in a tent. There's no way.
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Yeah, that's a good idea.
I like that. Our son, Kayden, that was his idea. So you got to give him credit. Yeah.
I think for me, I don't know. I guess I was like, I was thinking maybe I just cook a lot of Dragon Dinner or something like beforehand with the help or the house elves. I don't know.
Yes, like, distract it like with my wand. I put it in this bar at the Serena and make it move around with my wand while I'm like trying to get the egg.
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Get your food. Get your food.
Tina, you fat lard. Come get some dinner.
That's like the floating cupcake technique.
Yeah. I don't know why I pictured Kathy with like one of those dinner trays like pushing like on wheels like over the bumpy thing with like all this dragon food.
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That's awesome.
I use magic though. Of course. Yeah, of course you would use magic. I don't know what I was thinking.
Yes.
All right. So the second task, they find out from the Golden Age that they have to go into the Black Lake with the mermaids people. And so they have to be underwater for like an hour to get the thing that they treasure most.
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So for the second task, what would you guys use either a shark head, the bubble head charm or Gillyweed to be in the water for an hour. Let's go with Ben first this time.
So first off, I would still want to try the Accio thing I treasure most.
But it probably wouldn't work. I think I'd go with the shark head. I mean, I just I feel like that one. One, it helps me get there. But two, I feel a little protected knowing I have the shark teeth and stuff, you know, like my face down there.
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I need that shark head, you know.
Yeah.
Smart. Yeah, I like that the idea just using Accio in every single.
Accio leaves the cup.
Accio the trophy. Yeah.
Yeah, exactly.
From the very beginning, like everybody else goes into the phase already.
Accio trophy.
Yeah.
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That's smart with the shark head. That's true with the teeth and being able to swim better. Yeah, that's smart.
Yeah, for sure.
That's a great story. John, how about you go next?
Very simply, shark head is the right answer. Okay. And I agree with Ben for the same reason. Look, you're a shark. You got the gills. You're already down there.
The teeth in case the merpeople try to attack you. And it's also there is some debate amongst your biologists as to the effect of freshwater versus saltwater with the gillyweed.
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And I don't want to take that chance.
If they're wrong, I've got to be down there for an hour. We know there's a debate amongst them. So shark head it is. That's fair. That's fair.
It is fair. Okay. Kayla, what about you?
I'll just go with the classic bubble charm. I just think it'd be easy to just breathe as myself without any complications. I mean, maybe there's.
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Maybe my mom, I don't know, but like be able to just cast spells as I'm going, but breathing and swimming. Yeah. That's a good point with a spell is because I bet you could talk clearly with that bubble charm to you.
I bet you're not like in the water. You have that like area in front of you. Yeah. Smart.
That's a good point. Yeah. So you do the spells and stuff. Yeah. All right. I like it. I think I would just do gillyweed because I just, the thought of, I didn't think about all the reasons.
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Like that would be best. I just was like, that'd be so cool. Like I just think that would be cool. Yeah. To like not have to worry about holding my breath and my hands and feet changing so I could swim better.
Cause I'm not a good swimmer. So to me, I was like, that would be so cool. And I don't know, sharks kind of scare me.
Yeah. Yeah. The other thing to do, it looks like spinach and I don't do veggies. Right. So I don't want to eat that. But with the gillyweed too though, Kathy, he was able to speak fine. So in case you had to do like another spell, you'd be good to go.
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That's a good point. Okay. Okay. I'll buy it. I guess. I just want to see Kathy jump out of the water and do that flip thing. That'd be awesome. I know.
I would love to do that. Dave, you can do that already. You're like a fish. No. I can belly flop out of the water like that. Whale style.
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All right. All right. So Dave, what about you? What would you do?
So I didn't put as much thought as everyone else did in it either. I said bubble charm because it's so weird how crumb turns back into human. Like it just, he looks weird and I don't want to do that. I don't want to look weird like that.
So my bubble charm is simple. It's chill. It's like I just blew a big bubble gum or something bubble and I can just breathe in and it's all good. Valid. Totally valid. Good idea.
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Okay. Onto our third task for our Triwizard Cup here. They have to go through this maze that is magical and there's all these things in it. Our choices here though are like what would happen to you?
Would you maybe do the red sparks and feel like I'm done? I'm out of here. Or would you be taken by the plants or would you go all the way? So we're going to get everyone's input on that. Kayla, how about you go first this time?
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I want to go in all the way. I mean, I got my wand. What could happen? I can just burn the plants if they try to get me.
Yep. Yep. Good job. Nice. Just in case. But you're going to do it. You're going to go all the way. That's good. All right. Ben, how about you?
I think it depends on how I did on the other two. So if I knew I was already losing anyway, it was a part of me that would just be like, okay, this red spark out of this. I'm losing. But if I really have a chance to actually win, then I want to go all the way, man. For sure.
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Like Kayla was saying, it's like, why not go for it? Yeah. Awesome. That's good logic there too. Good job. Okay. John, what about you?
So yeah, I'm sure. Look, everybody wants to win. That's just our nature, right? But I'm going to be truthful. Like I mentioned in the first test, I'm not a runner. I don't run. It just does not work for me.
So I give it a good, honest chance and I would try my hardest. And then by the time I'm like already toppled over on the ground because I can't breathe, the plants are just going to take me away.
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I'm done. Yeah, that's all good, man.
Awesome. Fine. I'm sure you can do it. I dropped my wandle a while back. It's gone. I got no chance.
And there's a difference in the book for the movie in that one, which we'll talk about, but there's more to this maze than just like physical. Yeah. I mean, you can make it.
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Maybe teaser, teaser. It's cool. They wrote a book about all these movies. Yeah. All right. What about you? So I looked at it like I am Harry. And so I thought about getting to the end, just like he did. And Cedric being there.
And he'd be like, go on, take it. And instead of what Harry did, I'd be like, cool. And I'd just take the trophy there. And with that, you know, there's kind of an added side benefit of like Cedric doesn't die. And, you know, I learned that it pays to be competitive and selfish.
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That's what I learned. Just kidding. All different movies, all different character.
Just for this one task. I don't know. Yeah. Yeah.
No judgment on you at all, Dave. I'm just kidding. Sure, sure, sure, sure.
All right. Yay. Try Wizard Cup. Yes. Okay. That was fun.
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All right. Next up, we got heroes. Let's hear everybody's favorites and why. Kayla, why don't you go first?
So I'm going to go with Hermione. I mean, she was the one that stuck with Harry since the beginning. She helped him study all night just for a way for him to breathe underwater. And yeah, the bestest friend that Harry could have.
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Yes. Good answer. Good answer. That's a good answer. She's honestly, she's a good answer for pretty much every single one. That's true.
That's safe. Sometimes we want to mix it up a little, but you're right. Like, I think all voted for at least once for one of the movies so far.
All right. How about you, Dave? Okay. So for me, I picked Harry this time. I know we could always that's one of those two that we could pick just about every time. But I think for this one, especially he just he really didn't want to eternal glory.
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He didn't want to do this whole thing. And yet he showed up to every task and he did awesome. He put in the work like Kayla mentioned, you know, he studied with Hermione. He tried. He was cool with Cedric helping him out, all that kind of stuff.
So Harry's the number one for me in this movie.
Harry got Cedric killed, but okay.
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This isn't a competition, John.
I agree with Dave. I think Harry in this one, you know, he man just has to go through so much this poor guy, but he does a lot to show his character. I feel like like he saved Flores sister.
He didn't have to, you know, but he did. And I don't know in the book. I can't remember if they didn't save them. What would have happened to them? Like, what would have happened to their treasured person?
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Oh, yeah. Yeah. He saved Flores sister. Then like in the maze thing, you know, he saved Flore, you know, helped her out. And also Cedric, like he had a moment of hesitation, but like that's pretty real.
That's okay to like have a moment, but he ended up, you know, saving him in the maze and then face Voldemort and then he brought back Cedric's body and then warned everyone about Voldemort. So props to Harry for doing all that.
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Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Good points. All right, John. What about you?
So you guys are looking at this the wrong way. The purpose of Harry getting the goblet was so that he can end up in the graveyard to get to the goblet. He has to pass the other tasks first. Who helped him get to those tasks?
Professor Moody, aka Barney Crouch Jr. with the Polyjuice potion. So Ron, we told him about the dragons. That doesn't help him pass it. That doesn't help him find out how to win the event. Right.
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Who tells him he could have his wand? Barney Crouch Jr. does. That's how he gets Firebolt. That's how he wins. Second task. Gillyweed. Who did that come from? That came from Neville. But who told Neville? Barney Crouch Jr.
How would he have passed it otherwise? He wouldn't have. And then right at the beginning, obviously to get him to the graveyard. But Barney Crouch Jr. gave him a little, hey, go to the left. He gave him a clue on where it was.
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Barney Crouch Jr. made him win all these events. He made him win the Goblet of Fire. It's true. He is the hero because Harry is still alive.
Interesting take, John. I don't know if I would say my favorite is the one who brought Voldemort back. But I can't help make it all possible.
I didn't say he was my favorite. I hear you. I hear you.
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I didn't say he was my favorite. I just said he was the hero.
Nice. Nice.
I'll say more about this later. I'll say more about this later.
I mean, look, he did bad stuff too. Yes, I get it. He did a little kidnapping and you know.
He doesn't do that. That's fine. You put Harry in the Goblet of Fire.
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Yeah, well, yeah, to get him to the graveyard. Hero. OK.
It is interesting to go back and watch it like after you find out like the first time or whatever you see him at the Yule Ball and tap in his feet kind of like happily like dancing and knowing like that's Barney Crouch Jr. man. He's like, Janice.
He has to portray Professor Moody perfectly. Yeah. Yeah. Like when he fixes the ceiling inside the Great Hall and everything.
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He still has to be a professor. Right. He's teaching the class and everything.
And he does teach him stuff. And look, I've seen the movie a million times. I just want to give a different take on it. Yeah, that's fine. That's awesome.
Yeah, he was a bad guy. True. True. Yeah. His favorite villain is also going to be Barney Crouch Jr.
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My favorite hero and my favorite villain. I should have. That would have been funny.
No more pushback for you, John. For mine, I said Cedric.
I feel like Cedric was a decent guy from the beginning. Yeah, like he always treated people decently. And so he wasn't perfect.
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He wasn't the person that saved everybody or anything. But like, I don't know, he just stayed true to himself as far as being a decent person, which honestly, all the others got their jealousy stuff going on and everything.
It's just like kind of was nice to see someone act a little more mature.
Yep. Yeah. I mean, he's a Hufflepuff. So that's kind of true to that house right there. Oh, that's a good point. Yeah.
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Yeah. Hufflepuff. Yay for Hufflepuff, man.
All right. What about villains, guys? John, you want to go first this time?
Yeah, I put Rita Skeeter. She's just a professional gaslighter man. And the way she wrote the story in the broom closet. I mean, she was a hater, man.
Yeah, she just kept lying about him and everything like that. And the story she was making up. It just it felt very like there's some similarities to today's mainstream media, but we're not going to go on any of that.
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If every time I see she's just super annoying. She's making up lies. She's trying to put falsities out there and it's just she's my villain. Yeah, I never liked her.
No, good choice. No, I feel you, man. Yeah, it's terrible.
All right, Dave. Yeah, what's up? All right. So I kind of took a spin approach like John, but on the villains here and I said Dumbledore.
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He's like, did you put your name in the Goblet of Fire? And like even McGonagall is like, well, the devil with Barty, you know, and Dumbledore is like, we can't, you know, we just can't take Harry out of this.
You know, it's like, come on, you're like the greatest wizard in the world. You can take Harry out of this thing. He just lets him do it. The rules are absolute. The rules are absolute.
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Yeah, the rules are absolute, except when they're adding up the points for the House Cup. And then he's like, oh, yeah, let's throw in a few extra points.
Rule schmools. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. No, it's all tongue in cheek. Dumbledore is the man. But, you know, it's just kind of funny. Yeah.
What about you, Kayla? So I put kind of both as favorite and least favorite, but Draco Malfoy. I mean, I bet he was just jealous of Harry. He probably wanted eternal glory. So he thought, why don't I just like bully Harry just to make myself feel better?
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Yeah, he doesn't really get much in the movie, but I still just thought it was funny how he gets turned into a parrot.
And yes, yes, yes. That's a good point.
Favorite.
I did a backstab, right? That's a really good point, though, that, you know, even though he wasn't old enough, he would still want that. He wants that recognition. So that's why he goes after Harry. That's cool.
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Another thing Barty saved Harry from. That's true. The hero.
All right, Kathy, you're up. What's up?
Then I... Okay.
Breathe.
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Who you got? All right. So Barty Crouch Jr. because he killed his dad.
Yeah.
Dude messed up.
Yeah, messed up pretty awful stuff. Yeah. And he kidnapped Mad Eye Moody. And then all he did that whole year, like the Polyjuice potion, to pretend and deceive everybody, right? So this is my rebuttal. I'm going to just click back a little bit, John, on what you said.
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Because, you know, he kept Harry alive. He put his name in the Triwizard Cup and it's like, this is a big deal. You're going to die, maybe.
And then he kept Harry alive so that Harry could die by Voldemort and aid in Voldemort getting a body and returning. So, you know, that's, yeah.
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I think you got to rebuttal to that though, because if Harry had died in the first half, then Voldemort couldn't have killed him. So Barty Crouch Jr. is a hero. Okay, thank you.
I feel pretty confident in my answer. I'm not going to rebuttal. I'm pretty good.
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As well you should be.
I think it's a good point though that Harry had three movies with an attempt to bring Voldemort back that all failed. And then Barty's the one that really pulls it off, you know, like actually gets Voldemort back.
And so that's pretty good for a villain there, you know, compared to the last three movies, you know.
Yeah. Yeah, good choice, Kathy.
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So he's a good villain. How about that?
Yeah, I think that's what Ben said. Yeah, it's like, solid villain.
Thanks, Ben. Great to disagree.
John, this is like checkmate and then mutes his microphone.
But I gotta say for myself, Voldemort is the best villain, man. And there's like his reveal. Oh, man. Seeing it in the movie was so weird too because, you know, like this first time you see him without a nose and everything and it's just, he's pretty creepy, man.
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It like had an impact on me that first time I watched it. Like, wow, and that was pretty good. The acting was so well done. Just how wicked this guy is, man.
Yeah. No, it took the movies to the next level for sure with him showing up like that for sure.
Yeah, if it had just been, I don't know, anything else happen without Voldemort at the end, that movie would have been so much less impactful, I guess you could say.
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That is true, Ben. For all these movies, Voldemort is the worst.
I mean, he could be a hero.
Somebody on that movie has had an issue with noses. Because like you said, Ben, it was crazy to see him like that.
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And that's one of the reasons I never watched the whole thing because he looked freaky. Like he just looked scary. I didn't want to watch it because of his nose.
But then in the next movie with Groppy, his nose you can like see into his throat. It's like ridiculous. Somebody got an issue with noses.
Yep. It's got like massive noses. They explain it in the book that he was snake-like. His appearance like, oh, is that okay? Like his slits for his nose and he kind of looks like a snake in the book. Children read books. They're good for you.
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And the book has got red eyes too. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, he does in the book. Yeah. Yeah, in the book he has red eyes. But they took that off because they did a concept image of what he would look like and all the creators were like, nope, nope, too freaky.
Too much.
I'd like to see the trial things that they showed the producers.
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Yeah, imagine that graveyard scene with him like with a fresh body and red eyes. My goodness.
That was creepy. I probably never would have watched. Oh my gosh. I kind of like baby Voldemort though. Do you guys like baby Voldemort? Is that just me?
Just kidding. Just kidding.
What if you like drop him?
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If you want to drop some like that in the little soup there. Yeah.
Trips.
Those are good points though Ben. Yeah.
About Voldemort. Good job. So I asked Kaden, our son too, like who is the real villain and he said, the hair.
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The hair.
The long hair. He's like, it's the hair mom. That's the real villain in this movie.
The long hair.
Why don't we talk more about the hair. Whose hair would you have if you had to?
Let's look through some of these hairs that was in the movie and let's decide. Let's go look through this.
I don't have any hair so anybody. Oh my.
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That one's not real.
That looks a little photoshopped. We got Harry with this huge, I don't know, Marge hair.
Yeah, it's like one foot all around. It's huge. Yeah.
All right. So upfront we got Ron. He's got some, you know, his long red hair. He's got bangs, I guess.
I feel like I looked like that at one point. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But like it's not like all the same length. It's like he's got bangs. It seems like, which is funny.
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Then we got his brothers. I look forward like that.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I can see it for sure.
And we got Harry. It's just kind of got a mop going on all over the place, but it's got some volume more than the Weasley's.
So there's that. We got Neville. It's just, it's kind of like somebody who just took off their snow cap, you know, and they got a ton of hair.
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It's like, it's got some curl on the ends and kind of mop to his head and rips off the beanie. Yeah.
Hermione looks pretty much the same, but we got some, you know, our females on the podcast tonight. So we got Crumb who just has the shaved head.
We have that's what I'm closest to right now. Yep. Floor, another female option, just in case.
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And Cedric, who still has quite a bit of hair, but it's fairly normal.
And then we got Seamus, who doesn't change his hair in any of the movies, I don't think. It's pretty standard. And then we got Dean Thomas.
He's got a nice solid, you know, symmetrical hairstyle. So I think a good Dean. Yeah, man.
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All right. So who's got who? I think I'm Crumb. I mean, that's the closest one I'm closest to. Yep. And you're hailing from Durham strength tonight. So yeah, there you go.
So Ben, what about you? What would you pick? I think I'd go with Cedric. I actually think he's probably the most cool and normal, I guess. I don't know. Yeah.
Yeah. I feel like it matches kind of what your hair was like when you were a teenager to some degree. Yeah. Yeah.
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Yeah. Not as light, especially in this picture. It's kind of blondish. But yeah. What about you ladies? Kayla, Kathy? It could be any of them, too. You could be any of them.
Yeah. Yeah. I was just going to go with Hermione's because her hair kind of has the same like style as mine, like hair color, at least. And yeah, color. Yeah. Yeah.
But just like as a joke, like Ron or like Fred and George's like that one kind of looks kind of like girl hair, too. And I would. Yeah. Yes. Yes.
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But don't forget, Hermione didn't like her hair from the back. That's true.
What about you, Kathy? I agree with Kayla. I was like, oh, I mean, the boys have long hair. So I was looking at I was actually looking at Fred and George. I was like, I think at one point I kind of had layers going and bangs that kind of resembled that.
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So I think I'd go with Fred and George's hair. Nice. There you go. So which one's which? I can't even tell. Which one's Fred and which one's George? I never. You never know.
The first one I went this picture. That's the one I like. Right. Yeah. Yeah.
It's nice. I mean, they use products of some kind, for sure, maybe wizard products, but their hair looks good, for sure.
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All right. For me, I'm going to go with the fake Harry Potter with like the foot long in every direction.
I might have to like put this in the show notes or something, I'll link to this picture because it's hilarious. Yeah, that's how much I miss having hair. So being bald, I would go with that one.
It kind of reminds me of pulling the pencil out of her hair.
I'm in, oh, what's that movie?
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Secretary, yeah, in Ferris Bueller's Day Off.
Ferris Bueller's Day Off.
Yes, yes, Ferris Bueller's Secretary.
Grace.
Yes.
Yeah.
Grace.
I think he's a righteous dude.
So hey, really quick about the hair too.
I saw this interview with Rupert Grint, who plays Ron, you know,
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and they were asking him, like, if you could change anything from the Harry Potter movies,
like, what would you do? What would you change?
And he was like, my long hair.
And the Dramacizer was like that.
I would change that.
That would be the thing.
I thought that was funny.
The next movie was very different.
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Their hair looked very different.
They realized.
And that was the thing.
Remember, Dave, at the time.
It was.
I remember that being like the teenagers all had just massive hair, like everywhere.
Yeah.
Yeah. All right.
Let's talk about everybody's favorite scenes from this movie.
John?
Man, I had so many favorite ones.
So I love just the quickest little scene of and he's got two scenes in this in the whole series.
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And I just absolutely love three, actually.
But when Professor Flitwick, when he's crowd surfing, when they got him like
crowd surfing at the Yule Ball.
Oh, yeah, I forgot about that.
It's just an enjoyable little scene when Hermione is going back and forth
and Ron's trying to secretly tell Harry about the dragons.
She's like, please don't ask me to say it again.
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Hagrid's looking for you.
Well, you can tell Ron.
I'm not an owl.
Then she walks off with Jimmy.
And these aren't even like the most popular of scenes, but it's just funny to me.
But when Harry and Hagrid are walking to go see the dragons,
Harry just stops and he says to Hagrid mid conversation like Hagrid, have you combed your hair?
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As a matter of fact, I have.
You might not have tried the same thing now and again.
And just a couple of little quick scenes that I liked.
Nice.
Haley, you're up.
My favorite scene is, you know, the Yule Ball typical.
But I really like that scene because it's the one time you get to see the Great Hall change
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like completely. You know, it's all like ice and blue and you know, there's a dance floor
and like ice sculptures and it's like really pretty.
And that's probably like the only time you'll see it fancy and then they'll just throw it back to
the dining hall.
That's a good call, man.
Good point.
It is beautiful.
Yeah.
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Silver curtains and everything.
Yeah.
Yeah, that was awesome.
So the actor who plays as Professor Flitwick, that scene was actually improvised and he was like,
oh, it'd be funny just to do it like as a joke, like just for fun, but.
To crowd serve.
Yeah, to crowd serve.
Yeah.
And they kept it in. They were like, no, no, totally do it.
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Like, it's gonna be awesome.
And they just, yeah, they did it.
That's awesome.
Yeah. He's so cool, that guy.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It was the actor's idea to do that.
Yeah.
That's pretty cool.
That is cool.
That's awesome.
All right, Kathy, what about you?
So, I mean, yeah, Draco.
I mean, I had like kind of a few like Draco being turned into a ferret.
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That was pretty funny.
I love this scene.
It's like different in the book, but the scene in the movie, I just, I love it.
Like they're in the great hall and they're all doing homework and their work and stuff,
you know, and Snipes.
They're like, I have to be quiet.
Fred and George, they're like, hey, you guys need to get dates for the ball.
And they're like, well, have you?
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And like, just either Fred or George throws like a lot of paper and asks a girl to go.
And she's like, oh, yeah, okay.
And then he just like smiles and winks like, you know, go with the ball with me.
It's just so funny that he's just got my date, you know, and they're like,
you know, figure this out and they're talking.
But throughout when they're talking, wow, Snipes comes over and like smacks them in the head and
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pushes them.
But then, yeah, he takes his sleeves and pulls them down and then they're talking.
And it goes over and just shoves both their heads down.
And then he rolls his eyes too, when he's like, yes.
I just, it's just, it's great.
I just love it.
Love that they did that scene.
How many times they had to redo that scene?
They had to keep getting hit in the head.
Yep.
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Probably make them laugh and stuff too, yeah.
Yeah.
So funny.
So that's a funny one.
And then the one that I just love, I mean, I don't love it.
Like there's such a contrast, you know, like when it's in the graveyard,
when Harry is in the graveyard with Voldemort and it's intense, right?
He's facing Voldemort.
He's got a body.
Oh my gosh.
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And Voldemort is forcing Harry to fight him and duel him.
And Harry's trying his best, you know, holy cow, talk about fight, flight or freeze moment.
He's trying his best to protect himself.
And then he goes and hides.
And then Voldemort's like calling after him.
And you just see Harry just, I don't know how you describe it.
He's so determined and he just kind of does this like big puff of like,
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you know, energy like, you know, going to face him.
And then he just faces him and they have like that connecting wand scene
that is really cool looking.
And then that light and dark contrast, the people that Voldemort had killed
pop out of the wand and then his parents come out and it's like,
oh my gosh, his parents, you know, that he gets to see.
And then they give him time to escape and just coach him through
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and they're there for them.
And what is it called? The priority in cantentum, I think is like what Donald.
But that is like, I love that scene.
Like I love Harry just being like, no, I'm going to face this dude
and I'm going to go down trying and I'm going to defend my life
and try to protect people from Voldemort.
I love that that he did that.
And then he saw his parents and I love it.
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Yeah.
That's great.
Yeah.
All right, Dave, what about you?
Oh, mine's just a fun one.
But when Ron has to dance with McGonagall, I mean, it's so funny.
Put your hand on my waist.
You're what?
Place your right hand on my waist.
My waist.
And defend your arm.
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Mr. Felch, if you please.
One, two, three, one, two, three, one, two, three.
Boy, never let me forget this.
I never.
And then his brothers is making fun of him and Harry just loves it, too.
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It's it's just funny.
And and the whole lead up to it, we kind of talked about it being like this
awkward church dance or whatever, you know, the boys are all on one side,
girls are on the other side.
Girls jump up, the boys are just sitting there all awkward and nervous.
It's relatable and funny.
Yeah.
For me, it was like Kathy was saying, the Voldemort scene.
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I mean, just even him showing up was big.
But then like the showdown with Harry and everything,
I thought that was just an incredible way to end it and everything, you know?
Yeah.
Yeah.
So good.
All right.
What about quotes?
Dave, you want to go first?
Sure.
Just right along with my favorite scene when McGonagall's like
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the House of Godric Gryffindor has commanded the respect of the Wizarding
World for nearly 10 centuries.
I will not have you in the course of a single evening be smirching that name
by behaving like a babbling, bubbling band of baboons.
Fred and George have to like say it five times fast.
And it's a great line.
It's fun.
Yeah.
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Well done.
Well done.
Well done, Dave. Thanks. What about you, John?
So in each one of these things that we're doing,
I try to highlight Harry's vision into the magical world.
Yeah.
What is it in each episode that he just finds amazing about magic?
And they're all going into the tent at the Quidditch World Cup.
And he's looking at his tent like, how did all of them just walk in there?
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And then he's like, there's no way.
He walks in and he sees how beautiful it is on the inside.
So much space and everything like that.
And he just says, I love magic.
Of this movie, that was the thing that he did at this time.
And I saw his response to that and just how he looked in his eyes,
looking from outside of the tent to inside of the tent.
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It was pretty cool.
Yeah. I love his wonderment of everything.
It's awesome that by the fourth movie, he still hasn't gotten over all this.
It's still wowing him, you know?
Yes. Good point.
All right, Kayla, what about you?
So my favorite quote is kind of a nice one.
It's not as goofy as everyone else's, but it's okay.
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That's okay.
But yeah.
Yeah. Albus Dumbledore, he's talking to Harry and he says,
Dark and difficult times lie ahead.
Soon we must all face the choice between what is right and what is easy.
And inspiring to live by.
That's a good one.
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Yes. Love it.
Albus has some great quotes, like every single movie.
I know.
What about you, Kathy?
I loved everyone's quotes that they offered.
So this one that I just love in the movie, it's just so funny.
So Ron and this awkward moment where Ron's been jealous,
they haven't been talking to each other and they see each other and Ron's like,
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At least I warned you about the dragons.
Hagrid warned me about the dragons.
No, no, no, I did.
No, I don't remember.
I told Hermione to tell you that Seamus told me that
Pavarti told Dean that Hagrid was looking for you.
Seamus never actually told me anything, so it was really me all along.
I thought we'd be all right, you know, after you figured that out.
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Who could possibly figure that out?
That's completely mental.
Isn't it?
Yeah. Spies also pay to stroll.
Boys.
Yes, I just love that part.
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That line.
I'm just like, what was me?
No, no, no.
Figured that out.
Did you see?
Like, duh, how couldn't you know that was me that warned you?
Goodness.
So relatable.
For me, yeah, you could really pick so many different things,
but I love the scene where Hermione is talking to Fred and George.
It's not going to work.
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Oh, yeah.
And why is that, Granger?
You see this?
This is an age line.
Dumbledore drew it himself.
So?
So, a genius like Dumbledore couldn't possibly be fooled by a daughter's
pathetically dim witted as an aging potion.
That's why it's so brilliant.
Because it's so pathetically dim witted.
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They just own their dim wittedness, you know?
That's why it's gonna be awesome!
Yeah.
In fact, that's the only time they ever saw each other as old people.
Oh, that's true.
I love you, David.
Oh, yeah.
That's true.
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Alright, well, why don't we turn it over to Kayla to talk about some of the differences
from the book and the movie.
Alright, so I'll start with the classic Dumbledore's reaction
when it comes to Harry putting his name in the Goblet of Fire.
So, yeah.
Fans love to make fun of Dumbledore's over the top reaction
to Harry putting his name into the Goblet of Fire.
He runs toward Harry, grabs him by the shoulders, and accusingly shouts at him.
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This is a stark contrast to Dumbledore calmly asking this question in the book.
It's a strange moment in the film as it plainly contradicts
Dumbledore's normal, composed, compassionate, and calculated personality.
You have the actual quote from the book where he says,
Russell Dumbledore was now looking down at Harry,
who looks right back at him trying to discern the expression of eyes
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behind the half moon spectacles.
Did you put your name into the Goblet of Fire, Harry?
He asked calmly.
Yeah, it wasn't so calmly in the movie.
Right.
That's a good point.
It made us not like Dumbledore a little bit.
It was harder to adjust from the old Dumbledore because of that scene.
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Yeah.
But we liked him later on.
He was needed.
Yeah, he grew on us for sure.
Oh, what happened?
Drama, I guess.
Yep.
Yeah, another part that was not in the books was Winky the house elf.
She wasn't ever mentioned in the movies at all.
And yeah, Winky the house elf is an important character in the book.
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She serves the Crouch family and plays an important role in many secrets
and revelations concerning Barty Crouch Jr.
Barty Crouch Senior fires her and she ends up working in the Hogwarts kitchen
where Dobby does his best to help her despite Barty Crouch Jr.'s importance to the plot.
Winky plays no role in the film.
Yeah, no Winky.
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Another one is Spew where mostly Hermione is involved enraged by Barty Crouch Senior's
treatment of Winky and the treatment of all house elves in the magical community.
Hermione decides to create an organization named Spew Society for the Promotion of Elvish Welfare.
This is less wordy and more likely to fit on a badge than the initial name she thought of.
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Stopped outrageous abuse of our fellow magical creatures and companion for change and their
legal status.
Tensions the campaign doesn't go over well.
Most people see the house elves as happy with their work and have no desire to change things.
Even the house elves are insulted by Hermione's attempts to disrupt their lives.
Though Dobby and Winky in the film, there isn't an opportunity to incorporate the
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Spew storyline in all of its glory.
It's like a big part of the book.
She's constantly hounding Ron and Harry to help her with her cause and to like recruit others.
And it's funny.
Yeah, Spew.
Phil, um, if you're gonna spew, spew into this.
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Easy come, easy go.
Will you let me go?
Interesting.
I mean, they do a really good job showing Lucius, Mountfoy and Dobby's relationship in the
beginning.
Yeah.
How it just treats them like crap.
And that's interesting.
Yeah, I never would have known that if you didn't tell me.
Yep.
Missing obstacles from the third task.
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The book features a number of difficult obstacles during the third task of the Tri-Wizard
tournament, most of which aren't included in the movie.
There is a Sphinx guarding the closest route to the Tri-Wizard Cup who will only move aside
and refrain from attacking if a riddle is answered correctly.
Other obstacles included last-ended Scrooge, Boggarts and a golden mist that turns things
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upside down.
Omitting all these obstacles makes the third task much less exciting in the movie.
That's true.
I agree with that.
Yep.
Sphinx and all that stuff.
Yeah.
Yeah, they could put a couple of those in there.
Yep, for sure.
I guess they just wanted to get to the graveyard scene.
Yeah.
Rita Skeeter as Hannah Mangus.
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While the journalist Rita Skeeter does not appear in the film, she plays a smaller role
than in the book.
The movie also omits the most intriguing part of her story, which is that she is an
unregistered Annie Mangus who can transform herself into a beetle.
Being a beetle allows her to eavesdrop on all manner of conversations and find juicy
tibets for her stories.
Hermione uncovers the truth and the threat of reporting Rita's unregistered Annie Mangus
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status to the Ministry puts her in check for the time being.
Yeah.
Shocker.
Shocker that she would cheat to give a story.
She's a little beetle.
Yep.
Yep.
Oh, Joe.
A villain.
Yeah, the book really showed how bad she was even more than the movie for sure.
Yeah.
I didn't read the books and I just had that feeling that she was a terrible villain.
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Good call, John.
Good call.
Pick up on the vibes.
The number one bad villain.
All right, last one.
Marty Crouch's fate.
Marty Crouch Jr. suffers a dark fate in the book as he receives a dementor's kiss,
meaning that his soul's forever sucked out of his body.
This makes him nothing more than a living vegetable and he is unable to testify before
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the Wissigmont or provide any useful information about Voldemort and his return to power.
He makes it clear that Crouch Jr. will be sent to Aspen.
The audience is never shown or told that he receives a dementor's kiss in any of the films,
including The Goblet of Fire.
Yeah, pretty dark.
Yep, gets his soul sucked out.
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All right, that's all of them.
Nice.
Thanks, Kayla.
And the Gillyweed.
Oh, that wasn't in there either.
But like the Gillyweed, Dobby actually gets it for Harry.
Yes.
In the book.
Yep.
Not Neville.
Good point.
Nice.
Voldemort's the worst at killing Harry Potter.
Like, he could have just smothered him with a pillow when he was a baby.
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But he also could have killed him in the graveyard when he was trapped in the thing.
Yeah, he was like, come on, if your goal in life is to kill Harry Potter,
you're terrible at your job.
Like, he totally could have done it.
It's like most bad guys in most movies, you know, just like, bam, you know, don't do it.
Yeah, I just wanted to mention that.
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That's a good point, because like, I feel like the wizards in general,
they are so oblivious to the options they have available to them outside of magic.
Like, you really don't have to do it, like, zap them with anything.
There's a lot of other options you got there.
Yeah.
Yeah, absolutely.
So after they introduced two other schools for the Triwizard Tournament,
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there's a deleted scene that they show on Peacock.
And Peacock, if you guys watch the movie on Peacock,
it automatically plays with some of the deleted scenes.
Oh, nice.
And Dumbledore has all of Hogwarts stand up and sing a Hogwarts theme song.
It is atrocious.
Hoggy, Hoggy, Hogwarts?
Yeah, it is so bad.
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It's in the book.
Oh, my gosh, it's terrible.
It is so bad.
Like, if you see the worst in the Tuscan school one.
Our elementary school back in the day.
Also, did you catch that they sing Hoggy, Hoggy, Hogwarts with Hagrid
still in the original movie?
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Oh, I had the subtitles on.
Yeah.
I was sitting there reading along with it.
It was so bad.
Sometimes you see a scene that's deleted,
you're like, man, they totally could have left that in.
That would have been awesome.
This was not one of those.
You're like, no, good call.
Delete that thing.
Embarrassed for them.
It was crazy.
Why didn't Harry Potter give Dudley chocolate?
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Yeah, because he didn't want to.
We thought of that, too.
All right, man.
So that was Goblet of Fire.
Great movie, great movie.
We all enjoyed it.
We had none of the real villains were and the real heroes.
Hey, thanks so much for listening to part one of this episode.
Stay tuned for more fun in part two.
Whatever really happened to dudes calling each other best friends?
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Dave and John grew up in the 80s in New Jersey and they did everything together.
They were the quintessential best friends until they became teenagers and Dave moved away.
Fast forward to today and these two 40-somethings reconnected and decided to not only be besties again,
but to put on a podcast and share their reunion with anyone who will listen.
Welcome to Fat, Dumb & Happy.
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Eternal Glory
Eternal Glory!
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That's what awaits the FDH fan that listens to this episode.
Welcome back everyone to another magical episode of Fat, Dumb & Happy.
This episode we are going to fly our firebolts into Harry Potter 4 and 5.
Representing Durmstrang is my bro-host John.
John, are you going to win the Triwizard Tournament tonight you think?
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Of course I am, absolutely.
You know I picked you for Durmstrang because you got the Durmstrang goatee and you know you're rocking it.
Yeah, got it.
If we were Durmstrang bros back in the day, I definitely would have been that guy that did the whole Flippies thing, you know?
And then I think you'd be the guy that blew the fire out.
Yeah, yeah, you know me and fire. We have history.
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Exactly, and then Ben would be in the drums in the background.
It'd be awesome.
Alright, from Hogwarts we have our in-house special guest expert from the House of Ravenclaw, Ben.
Ben!
How did you get past that age line, Ben?
Well, that potion that made me a little younger so that I could go in with the high schoolers, you know?
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That's the only way.
Exactly, nice.
And we have again a super special guest expert representing Bobatons, Kathy.
Kathy, do you think the Bobatons had a killer Quidditch team?
Sure, yes. They were graceful.
Graceful probably did win a lot of Quidditch games there, Kathy.
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That's true. It takes a lot of grace to get that snitch and stuff, yeah.
Wait, wait, wait. What's this?
A fourth participant in the Triwizard Tournament and additional super special guest expert?
Another Hogwarts student. This one hailing from Hufflepuff, Kayla.
Kayla, did you put your name in the Goblet of Fire?
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No, sir.
No, sir. Nice.
Oh, man, Dumbledore was so intense in that part of the movie. That's so funny.
I'll rip you for your name in the Goblet of Fire.
No, sir.
So let me just introduce Kayla a little bit. She is our oldest daughter, Kathy and I, and she is also a Harry Potter super fan.
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We're super excited to have her on the podcast with us.
Being the first in our family, she was the first of the kids to read all the books, to watch all the movies, and have a Harry Potter themed party.
She has an expert memory. She's really good at remembering things from movies, and she may or may not have had crushes on one or more of the actors at some point in her life.
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True or not true, Kayla? True or not true?
It's true.
Totally understandable.
Did one of those actors become a vampire later in life?
Yep.
Oh, okay, gotcha.
That's one.
It's understandable. There's a lot of good looking boys in this movie.
Quick note, just a reminder that we will be talking about a lot of spoilers from these books and movies.
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Hopefully, if you're listening to this podcast, you've seen and read the movies and books already, but if not, pause, give us five stars and watch them already.
Alright, now over to the food portion of our podcast, John.
That's right, because what episode of Fat, Dumb, and Happy would be complete without a food portion of this show?
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So, you know, you guys know we always try to do something related to whatever category we're talking about, no matter what it is.
We're gonna start because I think they cheated, but you know.
Okay, so Dave, Kathy, and Kayla, they all got the same Harry Potter themed food going on. What are you guys drinking or eating? What is that?
Yeah, so we got fizzing whizbees. Kayla, you want to tell us more about it, what these things really are?
So these are called Zots, and they are hard candies, and they have like a fizzy chemical in it. So it's like a soda candy when you bite into the middle.
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Yeah, have you guys had these before by chance?
No, never. I've never even heard of those.
I think I've tried Zots before, like once or twice, but not a lot. Yeah, they are good.
Where do you get them?
By below.
Ah, okay.
Yep. And I guess the actual fizzing whizbees from the book and movie allows you to levitate. So we'll see how that does with these Zots.
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It's just a magical episode. We may just levitate. We'll see.
Man, if you guys start levitating, we're really onto something on this podcast.
All right, all right. Now, what kind of flavors, are you all have the same flavor or is it different flavors or what?
Yeah, there's all kinds of flavors. There's blue raspberry, strawberry, cherry, green apple. What else?
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Watermelon. Yep. I think that's it. I think that's it.
Those sound way better than the grape Nyquil I've been drinking.
I kind of like the black cherry taste. No, I'm just kidding.
Dude, these things are cool because I got it in the side of my mouth even in my cheek and it's like foaming. It's cool. It tastes good.
All right. I'll take your word for it. You have to send me one Zot.
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Did you see that? Show the camera again, Kathy.
Oh, it's coming. See, it's like foaming. Out the side. Oh, wow.
And it's like a candy with rabies.
Yes. But it's edible.
Very, very interesting. OK, well, Dave, you'll have to send me one Zot in the mail.
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Will do, dude. OK, well, you guys enjoy your fizzing whizzbees. Ben, what do you got going on tonight?
So my daughter just got back from a study abroad thing to London, England. Oh, sweet.
So she brought me back what's called a digestive. It is a British biscuit, which is like a cookie kind of thing.
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You know, I don't know. It's sort of chewy, but a kind of a cross between a like a chewy cookie and a cracker.
That's like a dry cracker. So I don't know. A little biscuit. Anyway, they call them digestives, which kind of sounds weird to me.
I just thought, you know, it's a British thing from a British movie. Why don't we do it? Yeah, I love it.
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First of all, that's awesome that she got to go to London. I've been there a couple of times. It's a really cool place to visit.
Yeah, that looks kind of like like a waffle kind of little chocolate on it. Yeah, that's what it looks like.
That's what it looked like to me. All right. I was thinking too, yeah. OK, well, look, guys, my food, I was going to do something kind of cool,
but it didn't pan out exactly as I needed to. I'll get that worked out for the next one.
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So I went a little nuts and I'm doing this. Don't drop it. Don't drop it. I almost dropped it.
Nice. The happy birthday Harry cake. Oh, wow. That looks exactly like it.
That is even spelled the way Hagrid would have spelled it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
So I'm going to do a piece of cake and I'm going to let you know I hate strawberry frosting.
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So I'm going to eat like one piece, just a small piece. I got some milk here ready to go.
I'm going to eat that real quick and we'll see what happens to the rest of there is a ton of frosting on that thing.
I'm going to do it. I want you to eat that whole cake before the end of the episode, John.
This is not Matilda. OK. Yeah. I'm going to do it like Dudley though. Right. Yeah. Like Dudley. Yeah, exactly.
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Get that pinky tail. I don't need a pinky tail. I'm good.
All right. So we're diving in here. So for the listener, we are, you know, we took a summer break.
We're recording this in the summer. It actually was Harry Potter's birthday just the other day.
So this is perfect. July 31st. Yes. Happy birthday to Harry yesterday.
What flavor cake is your cake? It's chocolate. It is chocolate.
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There we go. Just like in the movie and then strawberry frosting and it's got vanilla frosting in the middle, which I can do vanilla.
I'm not a big frosting guy. Like overall, I prefer minimal frosting on my cupcakes and cakes and stuff like that.
I will tell you, I make one of the most moist box cake recipes ever. Nice. This thing is super moist.
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I'm going to pull a Draco and be like, I didn't know you could bake.
What's a nice little braid? But that's not true because even when we were kids, dude, you would do the shake and bake.
You guys remember shake and bake at all? Shake and bake for a child, baby.
Make those and then you would like just eat just the plain crusties or whatever from the shake and bake mix.
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That's awesome. That's my origin story of how we became fat for the fat, dumb and happy.
But yeah, man, this cake is moist. So happy birthday, Harry. Appreciate you. Let me celebrate your birthday.
Here, here. Cheers. You guys know how old he is? 44. Born 1980.
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Wow. Yep. Yep.
But you're 44.
Wait, are you talking about the actor or are you talking about the character?
The character in the book.
Oh, OK.
Like supposedly, like that's when in the book, J.K. Rowling said he was born in 1980.
Yeah. All right. That works. Good deal.
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So right now, these movies, these books that we're talking about tonight are from 1994, 95. The timeline.
All right. Send me a piece of that cake. Yeah, I'll send it. It should be.
Same time. Same time.
All right. Well, let's start it off with the main event, man.
We are talking about the fourth and fifth movies of the Harry Potter series or books, depending on which one you prefer.
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And we are going to start off with Goblet of Fire.
What things stood out to you about Goblet of Fire, like things that stood out or the themes?
So one thing real quick for me is that this is like the year that they start kind of noticing the opposite gender more, it seems like.
They had crushes. Yes. You know, the dance.
They were just into that stage of development, I guess.
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So I think that's kind of fun and relatable, right? It's like they're awkward. They're nervous and it's kind of fun.
What, when she tries to teach them how to dance? Oh, it's one of my favorites. We'll talk about that later. It's one of my favorites.
I think it's interesting how, like, we always see just their perspective.
You know what I mean? Like, we don't see Fred and George's awkward liking girls stage either. You know what I mean?
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True, true. You know, that might have happened maybe their first year there or something like that.
They knew their brothers were there, but it was like they're oblivious to what was going on with the older, the younger pretty much.
Everything centers around that. So this is really the first time you have inter-age interactions to a significant amount.
Yes, I agree with that too, for sure.
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Kathy and Kayla, any other major themes or things you took away from this movie?
Just noticing there's always the theme of friendship between them.
And so in this one that Ron, you know, it's kind of in the middle, but he kind of gets a little jealous.
He gets jealous, and then they repair again and trying to navigate that. And then they repair, you know, and that's awkward. That's so funny.
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We'll talk about that later too. But just that happens in friendships and relationships.
And so I love that J.K. Rowling just like kept that real. Like, yeah, that happens, you know.
Yeah.
Chelsea, you work it out. But yeah, everything else you guys said to that theme with this one.
And I think too, just they're a little older and their character develops a little bit more too.
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You know, like the choices that they make. Just a little bit more of like, what are they going to choose?
And who do I want to be? And I like that theme too.
Yeah. Kayla?
I think something that I noticed is that when Harry gets chosen for the Triwizard Tournament,
I think that's when everyone started being a little like, okay, we're getting a little bit tired of Harry getting all the attention again.
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That's true. Yeah, that's true.
I think that's when people started to dislike him, you know, especially when it comes to support when he's playing the games.
That's interesting. So that's why they started getting all the Potter Stinks badges and everything like that.
Yeah.
Harry, that was terrible.
That's interesting. I hadn't thought about that.
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My question is, yes, like you guys said, they always hand on their friendship between the two.
I don't get why Ron doesn't believe Harry.
Yeah.
They were together 23 and a half hours a day.
They got like 30 minutes for potty breaks.
Yeah.
You know, but like, I mean, how do you not, I mean, you guys are together all the time.
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How would he have slipped his name in there? I don't get it.
Yeah, that's a really good point.
It's like, yo, we hang out like 24-7. When did you see me put my name in there?
That's valid.
Green Eye and Envy Monster.
Yes, that's just going to say that too, yep.
Jealousy and like Kayla was saying too, I think that jealousy with the other kids too, like, you know, kids can be really cruel.
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Yeah. And like Kayla was saying too, like how many years in a row can this guy be the hero?
You know what I mean? Like, they're like tired of Harry, but no, I get it.
Devin apparently.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
All right. Well, why don't we start off with the Triwizard Tournament with Kathy, that dumb and happy style.
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Yes, Triwizard Tournament, the fat, dumb and happy style.
Oh, there it is.
We got the Triwizard Cup.
Oh, man.
That's impressive. It's like bouncing the lights, like shining from your lights on the ceiling to the Triwizard Tournament Cup.
Yeah, that's awesome.
Dave, turn that thing into a porky and come visit me, okay?
Yeah, for real, right?
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We'll work on that.
So just like the Triwizard Tournament, there are three tasks.
And so this first one, they had to think about playing to their strengths and they all kind of find out that they're going to be battling dragons with Hagrid out there.
And even Hagrid was like, they're just misunderstood creatures with that one.
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Yeah.
Nasty.
Not a warren's tale.
So we're going to go through and what would you do, like if you play to your strengths, what would you accio for your first task?
So, John, what would you do?
I don't have a strength of running. That doesn't work for me.
So I'm going to accio Harry Potter's cloak of invisibility.
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That way I could just hide and run up to the little leg and I'll be fine. And I win.
There you go.
I'm taking the easy route. I think that's the way to go.
You just take your time, sit down for a break if you need to on the way.
The dragon's like, where is this guy?
I'm right by the egg, you silly goose.
Yeah.
Maybe they're like dinosaurs in Jurassic Park, right? They just can't see if you're not moving or whatever.
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Yeah. So then I pick up the egg and he's like, ah, he got me. He got me.
That's how I win the first task.
Awesome.
So Dave, what would you accio?
All right. So I got a different strategy.
And I'm playing like I am Harry Potter in the fourth movie.
So I would accio Colin Creavy because he's so annoying.
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And then have him be a decoy, maybe even bait. I don't know, depending how I feel.
And maybe his camera flashes could distract the dragon while I go get that egg.
So that's what I would do.
Okay. All right. All right. Yeah. All right. Ben, what about you?
I don't think I have any of the strengths needed to win this beyond just like maybe cheating.
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So I was actually tempted to accio the Felix Felicis, you know, the liquid luck.
But I know that's not allowed in like any of these tournament things.
So instead I'm going to accio Aladdin's lamp.
Maybe I'll wish for the dragons to shrink to microscopic size or something.
There you go.
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I like it. That's awesome.
So you're going to accio Robin Williams.
None of us have any skills in this realm. So you can cheat all you want. It's fine.
Yeah. I like the tactic. Good job, Ben.
Crossing like fantasy dimensions and things. It's all good.
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Awesome. We like Disney and Harry Potter. So that works.
Yes. All right. Kayla, what about you?
So I was going to do the Invisibility Cloak too, but the idea got stolen.
So I thought I'd do Exploding Snaps because I thought they were like firecrackers.
So I just like throw it kind of either like over it or in an area to where it might just turn around real quick.
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And I might run to where I need to go and just keep doing it until I eventually get there and then just end it right then there.
Can I make a suggestion? Yes. So you're talking about like little snaps you throw at the ground, right?
Like a little pop step. Okay. Yeah. Why don't you accio the Weasley's fireworks?
Oh, there you go.
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That's amazing. That would totally distract them. I think you'd totally get the egg that way.
That's a smart idea. And I feel like that's like the most fair one so far. Like that's the most.
Good job, Kayla.
All right. So for me, I would just this is Kayden's idea actually.
I'm going to share his the accio golden egg. Like just do that. Just get the egg.
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Just accio it. Yeah.
I mean, genius. That's the quickest victory ever.
Yeah. He's like, why don't they just do that? And I'm like, that's a good idea. I mean, nobody thought of it.
Pretty smart there, Kathy. I told David this was a real thing. Like probably accio a pizza and stay in a tent. There's no way.
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Yeah, that's a good idea.
I like that. Our son, Kayden, that was his idea. So you got to give him credit. Yeah.
I think for me, I don't know. I guess I was like, I was thinking maybe I just cook a lot of Dragon Dinner or something like beforehand with the help or the house elves. I don't know.
Yes, like, distract it like with my wand. I put it in this bar at the Serena and make it move around with my wand while I'm like trying to get the egg.
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Get your food. Get your food.
Tina, you fat lard. Come get some dinner.
That's like the floating cupcake technique.
Yeah. I don't know why I pictured Kathy with like one of those dinner trays like pushing like on wheels like over the bumpy thing with like all this dragon food.
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That's awesome.
I use magic though. Of course. Yeah, of course you would use magic. I don't know what I was thinking.
Yes.
All right. So the second task, they find out from the Golden Age that they have to go into the Black Lake with the mermaids people. And so they have to be underwater for like an hour to get the thing that they treasure most.
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So for the second task, what would you guys use either a shark head, the bubble head charm or Gillyweed to be in the water for an hour. Let's go with Ben first this time.
So first off, I would still want to try the Accio thing I treasure most.
But it probably wouldn't work. I think I'd go with the shark head. I mean, I just I feel like that one. One, it helps me get there. But two, I feel a little protected knowing I have the shark teeth and stuff, you know, like my face down there.
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I need that shark head, you know.
Yeah.
Smart. Yeah, I like that the idea just using Accio in every single.
Accio leaves the cup.
Accio the trophy. Yeah.
Yeah, exactly.
From the very beginning, like everybody else goes into the phase already.
Accio trophy.
Yeah.
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That's smart with the shark head. That's true with the teeth and being able to swim better. Yeah, that's smart.
Yeah, for sure.
That's a great story. John, how about you go next?
Very simply, shark head is the right answer. Okay. And I agree with Ben for the same reason. Look, you're a shark. You got the gills. You're already down there.
The teeth in case the merpeople try to attack you. And it's also there is some debate amongst your biologists as to the effect of freshwater versus saltwater with the gillyweed.
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And I don't want to take that chance.
If they're wrong, I've got to be down there for an hour. We know there's a debate amongst them. So shark head it is. That's fair. That's fair.
It is fair. Okay. Kayla, what about you?
I'll just go with the classic bubble charm. I just think it'd be easy to just breathe as myself without any complications. I mean, maybe there's.
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Maybe my mom, I don't know, but like be able to just cast spells as I'm going, but breathing and swimming. Yeah. That's a good point with a spell is because I bet you could talk clearly with that bubble charm to you.
I bet you're not like in the water. You have that like area in front of you. Yeah. Smart.
That's a good point. Yeah. So you do the spells and stuff. Yeah. All right. I like it. I think I would just do gillyweed because I just, the thought of, I didn't think about all the reasons.
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Like that would be best. I just was like, that'd be so cool. Like I just think that would be cool. Yeah. To like not have to worry about holding my breath and my hands and feet changing so I could swim better.
Cause I'm not a good swimmer. So to me, I was like, that would be so cool. And I don't know, sharks kind of scare me.
Yeah. Yeah. The other thing to do, it looks like spinach and I don't do veggies. Right. So I don't want to eat that. But with the gillyweed too though, Kathy, he was able to speak fine. So in case you had to do like another spell, you'd be good to go.
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That's a good point. Okay. Okay. I'll buy it. I guess. I just want to see Kathy jump out of the water and do that flip thing. That'd be awesome. I know.
I would love to do that. Dave, you can do that already. You're like a fish. No. I can belly flop out of the water like that. Whale style.
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All right. All right. So Dave, what about you? What would you do?
So I didn't put as much thought as everyone else did in it either. I said bubble charm because it's so weird how crumb turns back into human. Like it just, he looks weird and I don't want to do that. I don't want to look weird like that.
So my bubble charm is simple. It's chill. It's like I just blew a big bubble gum or something bubble and I can just breathe in and it's all good. Valid. Totally valid. Good idea.
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Okay. Onto our third task for our Triwizard Cup here. They have to go through this maze that is magical and there's all these things in it. Our choices here though are like what would happen to you?
Would you maybe do the red sparks and feel like I'm done? I'm out of here. Or would you be taken by the plants or would you go all the way? So we're going to get everyone's input on that. Kayla, how about you go first this time?
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I want to go in all the way. I mean, I got my wand. What could happen? I can just burn the plants if they try to get me.
Yep. Yep. Good job. Nice. Just in case. But you're going to do it. You're going to go all the way. That's good. All right. Ben, how about you?
I think it depends on how I did on the other two. So if I knew I was already losing anyway, it was a part of me that would just be like, okay, this red spark out of this. I'm losing. But if I really have a chance to actually win, then I want to go all the way, man. For sure.
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Like Kayla was saying, it's like, why not go for it? Yeah. Awesome. That's good logic there too. Good job. Okay. John, what about you?
So yeah, I'm sure. Look, everybody wants to win. That's just our nature, right? But I'm going to be truthful. Like I mentioned in the first test, I'm not a runner. I don't run. It just does not work for me.
So I give it a good, honest chance and I would try my hardest. And then by the time I'm like already toppled over on the ground because I can't breathe, the plants are just going to take me away.
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I'm done. Yeah, that's all good, man.
Awesome. Fine. I'm sure you can do it. I dropped my wandle a while back. It's gone. I got no chance.
And there's a difference in the book for the movie in that one, which we'll talk about, but there's more to this maze than just like physical. Yeah. I mean, you can make it.
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Maybe teaser, teaser. It's cool. They wrote a book about all these movies. Yeah. All right. What about you? So I looked at it like I am Harry. And so I thought about getting to the end, just like he did. And Cedric being there.
And he'd be like, go on, take it. And instead of what Harry did, I'd be like, cool. And I'd just take the trophy there. And with that, you know, there's kind of an added side benefit of like Cedric doesn't die. And, you know, I learned that it pays to be competitive and selfish.
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That's what I learned. Just kidding. All different movies, all different character.
Just for this one task. I don't know. Yeah. Yeah.
No judgment on you at all, Dave. I'm just kidding. Sure, sure, sure, sure.
All right. Yay. Try Wizard Cup. Yes. Okay. That was fun.
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All right. Next up, we got heroes. Let's hear everybody's favorites and why. Kayla, why don't you go first?
So I'm going to go with Hermione. I mean, she was the one that stuck with Harry since the beginning. She helped him study all night just for a way for him to breathe underwater. And yeah, the bestest friend that Harry could have.
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Yes. Good answer. Good answer. That's a good answer. She's honestly, she's a good answer for pretty much every single one. That's true.
That's safe. Sometimes we want to mix it up a little, but you're right. Like, I think all voted for at least once for one of the movies so far.
All right. How about you, Dave? Okay. So for me, I picked Harry this time. I know we could always that's one of those two that we could pick just about every time. But I think for this one, especially he just he really didn't want to eternal glory.
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He didn't want to do this whole thing. And yet he showed up to every task and he did awesome. He put in the work like Kayla mentioned, you know, he studied with Hermione. He tried. He was cool with Cedric helping him out, all that kind of stuff.
So Harry's the number one for me in this movie.
Harry got Cedric killed, but okay.
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This isn't a competition, John.
I agree with Dave. I think Harry in this one, you know, he man just has to go through so much this poor guy, but he does a lot to show his character. I feel like like he saved Flores sister.
He didn't have to, you know, but he did. And I don't know in the book. I can't remember if they didn't save them. What would have happened to them? Like, what would have happened to their treasured person?
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Oh, yeah. Yeah. He saved Flores sister. Then like in the maze thing, you know, he saved Flore, you know, helped her out. And also Cedric, like he had a moment of hesitation, but like that's pretty real.
That's okay to like have a moment, but he ended up, you know, saving him in the maze and then face Voldemort and then he brought back Cedric's body and then warned everyone about Voldemort. So props to Harry for doing all that.
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Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Good points. All right, John. What about you?
So you guys are looking at this the wrong way. The purpose of Harry getting the goblet was so that he can end up in the graveyard to get to the goblet. He has to pass the other tasks first. Who helped him get to those tasks?
Professor Moody, aka Barney Crouch Jr. with the Polyjuice potion. So Ron, we told him about the dragons. That doesn't help him pass it. That doesn't help him find out how to win the event. Right.
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Who tells him he could have his wand? Barney Crouch Jr. does. That's how he gets Firebolt. That's how he wins. Second task. Gillyweed. Who did that come from? That came from Neville. But who told Neville? Barney Crouch Jr.
How would he have passed it otherwise? He wouldn't have. And then right at the beginning, obviously to get him to the graveyard. But Barney Crouch Jr. gave him a little, hey, go to the left. He gave him a clue on where it was.
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Barney Crouch Jr. made him win all these events. He made him win the Goblet of Fire. It's true. He is the hero because Harry is still alive.
Interesting take, John. I don't know if I would say my favorite is the one who brought Voldemort back. But I can't help make it all possible.
I didn't say he was my favorite. I hear you. I hear you.
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I didn't say he was my favorite. I just said he was the hero.
Nice. Nice.
I'll say more about this later. I'll say more about this later.
I mean, look, he did bad stuff too. Yes, I get it. He did a little kidnapping and you know.
He doesn't do that. That's fine. You put Harry in the Goblet of Fire.
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Yeah, well, yeah, to get him to the graveyard. Hero. OK.
It is interesting to go back and watch it like after you find out like the first time or whatever you see him at the Yule Ball and tap in his feet kind of like happily like dancing and knowing like that's Barney Crouch Jr. man. He's like, Janice.
He has to portray Professor Moody perfectly. Yeah. Yeah. Like when he fixes the ceiling inside the Great Hall and everything.
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He still has to be a professor. Right. He's teaching the class and everything.
And he does teach him stuff. And look, I've seen the movie a million times. I just want to give a different take on it. Yeah, that's fine. That's awesome.
Yeah, he was a bad guy. True. True. Yeah. His favorite villain is also going to be Barney Crouch Jr.
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My favorite hero and my favorite villain. I should have. That would have been funny.
No more pushback for you, John. For mine, I said Cedric.
I feel like Cedric was a decent guy from the beginning. Yeah, like he always treated people decently. And so he wasn't perfect.
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He wasn't the person that saved everybody or anything. But like, I don't know, he just stayed true to himself as far as being a decent person, which honestly, all the others got their jealousy stuff going on and everything.
It's just like kind of was nice to see someone act a little more mature.
Yep. Yeah. I mean, he's a Hufflepuff. So that's kind of true to that house right there. Oh, that's a good point. Yeah.
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Yeah. Hufflepuff. Yay for Hufflepuff, man.
All right. What about villains, guys? John, you want to go first this time?
Yeah, I put Rita Skeeter. She's just a professional gaslighter man. And the way she wrote the story in the broom closet. I mean, she was a hater, man.
Yeah, she just kept lying about him and everything like that. And the story she was making up. It just it felt very like there's some similarities to today's mainstream media, but we're not going to go on any of that.
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If every time I see she's just super annoying. She's making up lies. She's trying to put falsities out there and it's just she's my villain. Yeah, I never liked her.
No, good choice. No, I feel you, man. Yeah, it's terrible.
All right, Dave. Yeah, what's up? All right. So I kind of took a spin approach like John, but on the villains here and I said Dumbledore.
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He's like, did you put your name in the Goblet of Fire? And like even McGonagall is like, well, the devil with Barty, you know, and Dumbledore is like, we can't, you know, we just can't take Harry out of this.
You know, it's like, come on, you're like the greatest wizard in the world. You can take Harry out of this thing. He just lets him do it. The rules are absolute. The rules are absolute.
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Yeah, the rules are absolute, except when they're adding up the points for the House Cup. And then he's like, oh, yeah, let's throw in a few extra points.
Rule schmools. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. No, it's all tongue in cheek. Dumbledore is the man. But, you know, it's just kind of funny. Yeah.
What about you, Kayla? So I put kind of both as favorite and least favorite, but Draco Malfoy. I mean, I bet he was just jealous of Harry. He probably wanted eternal glory. So he thought, why don't I just like bully Harry just to make myself feel better?
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Yeah, he doesn't really get much in the movie, but I still just thought it was funny how he gets turned into a parrot.
And yes, yes, yes. That's a good point.
Favorite.
I did a backstab, right? That's a really good point, though, that, you know, even though he wasn't old enough, he would still want that. He wants that recognition. So that's why he goes after Harry. That's cool.
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Another thing Barty saved Harry from. That's true. The hero.
All right, Kathy, you're up. What's up?
Then I... Okay.
Breathe.
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Who you got? All right. So Barty Crouch Jr. because he killed his dad.
Yeah.
Dude messed up.
Yeah, messed up pretty awful stuff. Yeah. And he kidnapped Mad Eye Moody. And then all he did that whole year, like the Polyjuice potion, to pretend and deceive everybody, right? So this is my rebuttal. I'm going to just click back a little bit, John, on what you said.
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Because, you know, he kept Harry alive. He put his name in the Triwizard Cup and it's like, this is a big deal. You're going to die, maybe.
And then he kept Harry alive so that Harry could die by Voldemort and aid in Voldemort getting a body and returning. So, you know, that's, yeah.
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I think you got to rebuttal to that though, because if Harry had died in the first half, then Voldemort couldn't have killed him. So Barty Crouch Jr. is a hero. Okay, thank you.
I feel pretty confident in my answer. I'm not going to rebuttal. I'm pretty good.
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As well you should be.
I think it's a good point though that Harry had three movies with an attempt to bring Voldemort back that all failed. And then Barty's the one that really pulls it off, you know, like actually gets Voldemort back.
And so that's pretty good for a villain there, you know, compared to the last three movies, you know.
Yeah. Yeah, good choice, Kathy.
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So he's a good villain. How about that?
Yeah, I think that's what Ben said. Yeah, it's like, solid villain.
Thanks, Ben. Great to disagree.
John, this is like checkmate and then mutes his microphone.
But I gotta say for myself, Voldemort is the best villain, man. And there's like his reveal. Oh, man. Seeing it in the movie was so weird too because, you know, like this first time you see him without a nose and everything and it's just, he's pretty creepy, man.
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It like had an impact on me that first time I watched it. Like, wow, and that was pretty good. The acting was so well done. Just how wicked this guy is, man.
Yeah. No, it took the movies to the next level for sure with him showing up like that for sure.
Yeah, if it had just been, I don't know, anything else happen without Voldemort at the end, that movie would have been so much less impactful, I guess you could say.
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That is true, Ben. For all these movies, Voldemort is the worst.
I mean, he could be a hero.
Somebody on that movie has had an issue with noses. Because like you said, Ben, it was crazy to see him like that.
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And that's one of the reasons I never watched the whole thing because he looked freaky. Like he just looked scary. I didn't want to watch it because of his nose.
But then in the next movie with Groppy, his nose you can like see into his throat. It's like ridiculous. Somebody got an issue with noses.
Yep. It's got like massive noses. They explain it in the book that he was snake-like. His appearance like, oh, is that okay? Like his slits for his nose and he kind of looks like a snake in the book. Children read books. They're good for you.
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And the book has got red eyes too. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, he does in the book. Yeah. Yeah, in the book he has red eyes. But they took that off because they did a concept image of what he would look like and all the creators were like, nope, nope, too freaky.
Too much.
I'd like to see the trial things that they showed the producers.
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Yeah, imagine that graveyard scene with him like with a fresh body and red eyes. My goodness.
That was creepy. I probably never would have watched. Oh my gosh. I kind of like baby Voldemort though. Do you guys like baby Voldemort? Is that just me?
Just kidding. Just kidding.
What if you like drop him?
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If you want to drop some like that in the little soup there. Yeah.
Trips.
Those are good points though Ben. Yeah.
About Voldemort. Good job. So I asked Kaden, our son too, like who is the real villain and he said, the hair.
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The hair.
The long hair. He's like, it's the hair mom. That's the real villain in this movie.
The long hair.
Why don't we talk more about the hair. Whose hair would you have if you had to?
Let's look through some of these hairs that was in the movie and let's decide. Let's go look through this.
I don't have any hair so anybody. Oh my.
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That one's not real.
That looks a little photoshopped. We got Harry with this huge, I don't know, Marge hair.
Yeah, it's like one foot all around. It's huge. Yeah.
All right. So upfront we got Ron. He's got some, you know, his long red hair. He's got bangs, I guess.
I feel like I looked like that at one point. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But like it's not like all the same length. It's like he's got bangs. It seems like, which is funny.
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Then we got his brothers. I look forward like that.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I can see it for sure.
And we got Harry. It's just kind of got a mop going on all over the place, but it's got some volume more than the Weasley's.
So there's that. We got Neville. It's just, it's kind of like somebody who just took off their snow cap, you know, and they got a ton of hair.
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It's like, it's got some curl on the ends and kind of mop to his head and rips off the beanie. Yeah.
Hermione looks pretty much the same, but we got some, you know, our females on the podcast tonight. So we got Crumb who just has the shaved head.
We have that's what I'm closest to right now. Yep. Floor, another female option, just in case.
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And Cedric, who still has quite a bit of hair, but it's fairly normal.
And then we got Seamus, who doesn't change his hair in any of the movies, I don't think. It's pretty standard. And then we got Dean Thomas.
He's got a nice solid, you know, symmetrical hairstyle. So I think a good Dean. Yeah, man.
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All right. So who's got who? I think I'm Crumb. I mean, that's the closest one I'm closest to. Yep. And you're hailing from Durham strength tonight. So yeah, there you go.
So Ben, what about you? What would you pick? I think I'd go with Cedric. I actually think he's probably the most cool and normal, I guess. I don't know. Yeah.
Yeah. I feel like it matches kind of what your hair was like when you were a teenager to some degree. Yeah. Yeah.
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Yeah. Not as light, especially in this picture. It's kind of blondish. But yeah. What about you ladies? Kayla, Kathy? It could be any of them, too. You could be any of them.
Yeah. Yeah. I was just going to go with Hermione's because her hair kind of has the same like style as mine, like hair color, at least. And yeah, color. Yeah. Yeah.
But just like as a joke, like Ron or like Fred and George's like that one kind of looks kind of like girl hair, too. And I would. Yeah. Yes. Yes.
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But don't forget, Hermione didn't like her hair from the back. That's true.
What about you, Kathy? I agree with Kayla. I was like, oh, I mean, the boys have long hair. So I was looking at I was actually looking at Fred and George. I was like, I think at one point I kind of had layers going and bangs that kind of resembled that.
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So I think I'd go with Fred and George's hair. Nice. There you go. So which one's which? I can't even tell. Which one's Fred and which one's George? I never. You never know.
The first one I went this picture. That's the one I like. Right. Yeah. Yeah.
It's nice. I mean, they use products of some kind, for sure, maybe wizard products, but their hair looks good, for sure.
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All right. For me, I'm going to go with the fake Harry Potter with like the foot long in every direction.
I might have to like put this in the show notes or something, I'll link to this picture because it's hilarious. Yeah, that's how much I miss having hair. So being bald, I would go with that one.
It kind of reminds me of pulling the pencil out of her hair.
I'm in, oh, what's that movie?
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Secretary, yeah, in Ferris Bueller's Day Off.
Ferris Bueller's Day Off.
Yes, yes, Ferris Bueller's Secretary.
Grace.
Yes.
Yeah.
Grace.
I think he's a righteous dude.
So hey, really quick about the hair too.
I saw this interview with Rupert Grint, who plays Ron, you know,
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and they were asking him, like, if you could change anything from the Harry Potter movies,
like, what would you do? What would you change?
And he was like, my long hair.
And the Dramacizer was like that.
I would change that.
That would be the thing.
I thought that was funny.
The next movie was very different.
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Their hair looked very different.
They realized.
And that was the thing.
Remember, Dave, at the time.
It was.
I remember that being like the teenagers all had just massive hair, like everywhere.
Yeah.
Yeah. All right.
Let's talk about everybody's favorite scenes from this movie.
John?
Man, I had so many favorite ones.
So I love just the quickest little scene of and he's got two scenes in this in the whole series.
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And I just absolutely love three, actually.
But when Professor Flitwick, when he's crowd surfing, when they got him like
crowd surfing at the Yule Ball.
Oh, yeah, I forgot about that.
It's just an enjoyable little scene when Hermione is going back and forth
and Ron's trying to secretly tell Harry about the dragons.
She's like, please don't ask me to say it again.
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Hagrid's looking for you.
Well, you can tell Ron.
I'm not an owl.
Then she walks off with Jimmy.
And these aren't even like the most popular of scenes, but it's just funny to me.
But when Harry and Hagrid are walking to go see the dragons,
Harry just stops and he says to Hagrid mid conversation like Hagrid, have you combed your hair?
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As a matter of fact, I have.
You might not have tried the same thing now and again.
And just a couple of little quick scenes that I liked.
Nice.
Haley, you're up.
My favorite scene is, you know, the Yule Ball typical.
But I really like that scene because it's the one time you get to see the Great Hall change
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like completely. You know, it's all like ice and blue and you know, there's a dance floor
and like ice sculptures and it's like really pretty.
And that's probably like the only time you'll see it fancy and then they'll just throw it back to
the dining hall.
That's a good call, man.
Good point.
It is beautiful.
Yeah.
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Silver curtains and everything.
Yeah.
Yeah, that was awesome.
So the actor who plays as Professor Flitwick, that scene was actually improvised and he was like,
oh, it'd be funny just to do it like as a joke, like just for fun, but.
To crowd serve.
Yeah, to crowd serve.
Yeah.
And they kept it in. They were like, no, no, totally do it.
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Like, it's gonna be awesome.
And they just, yeah, they did it.
That's awesome.
Yeah. He's so cool, that guy.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It was the actor's idea to do that.
Yeah.
That's pretty cool.
That is cool.
That's awesome.
All right, Kathy, what about you?
So, I mean, yeah, Draco.
I mean, I had like kind of a few like Draco being turned into a ferret.
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That was pretty funny.
I love this scene.
It's like different in the book, but the scene in the movie, I just, I love it.
Like they're in the great hall and they're all doing homework and their work and stuff,
you know, and Snipes.
They're like, I have to be quiet.
Fred and George, they're like, hey, you guys need to get dates for the ball.
And they're like, well, have you?
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And like, just either Fred or George throws like a lot of paper and asks a girl to go.
And she's like, oh, yeah, okay.
And then he just like smiles and winks like, you know, go with the ball with me.
It's just so funny that he's just got my date, you know, and they're like,
you know, figure this out and they're talking.
But throughout when they're talking, wow, Snipes comes over and like smacks them in the head and
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pushes them.
But then, yeah, he takes his sleeves and pulls them down and then they're talking.
And it goes over and just shoves both their heads down.
And then he rolls his eyes too, when he's like, yes.
I just, it's just, it's great.
I just love it.
Love that they did that scene.
How many times they had to redo that scene?
They had to keep getting hit in the head.
Yep.
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Probably make them laugh and stuff too, yeah.
Yeah.
So funny.
So that's a funny one.
And then the one that I just love, I mean, I don't love it.
Like there's such a contrast, you know, like when it's in the graveyard,
when Harry is in the graveyard with Voldemort and it's intense, right?
He's facing Voldemort.
He's got a body.
Oh my gosh.
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And Voldemort is forcing Harry to fight him and duel him.
And Harry's trying his best, you know, holy cow, talk about fight, flight or freeze moment.
He's trying his best to protect himself.
And then he goes and hides.
And then Voldemort's like calling after him.
And you just see Harry just, I don't know how you describe it.
He's so determined and he just kind of does this like big puff of like,
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you know, energy like, you know, going to face him.
And then he just faces him and they have like that connecting wand scene
that is really cool looking.
And then that light and dark contrast, the people that Voldemort had killed
pop out of the wand and then his parents come out and it's like,
oh my gosh, his parents, you know, that he gets to see.
And then they give him time to escape and just coach him through
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and they're there for them.
And what is it called? The priority in cantentum, I think is like what Donald.
But that is like, I love that scene.
Like I love Harry just being like, no, I'm going to face this dude
and I'm going to go down trying and I'm going to defend my life
and try to protect people from Voldemort.
I love that that he did that.
And then he saw his parents and I love it.
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Yeah.
That's great.
Yeah.
All right, Dave, what about you?
Oh, mine's just a fun one.
But when Ron has to dance with McGonagall, I mean, it's so funny.
Put your hand on my waist.
You're what?
Place your right hand on my waist.
My waist.
And defend your arm.
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Mr. Felch, if you please.
One, two, three, one, two, three, one, two, three.
Boy, never let me forget this.
I never.
And then his brothers is making fun of him and Harry just loves it, too.
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It's it's just funny.
And and the whole lead up to it, we kind of talked about it being like this
awkward church dance or whatever, you know, the boys are all on one side,
girls are on the other side.
Girls jump up, the boys are just sitting there all awkward and nervous.
It's relatable and funny.
Yeah.
For me, it was like Kathy was saying, the Voldemort scene.
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I mean, just even him showing up was big.
But then like the showdown with Harry and everything,
I thought that was just an incredible way to end it and everything, you know?
Yeah.
Yeah.
So good.
All right.
What about quotes?
Dave, you want to go first?
Sure.
Just right along with my favorite scene when McGonagall's like
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the House of Godric Gryffindor has commanded the respect of the Wizarding
World for nearly 10 centuries.
I will not have you in the course of a single evening be smirching that name
by behaving like a babbling, bubbling band of baboons.
Fred and George have to like say it five times fast.
And it's a great line.
It's fun.
Yeah.
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Well done.
Well done.
Well done, Dave. Thanks. What about you, John?
So in each one of these things that we're doing,
I try to highlight Harry's vision into the magical world.
Yeah.
What is it in each episode that he just finds amazing about magic?
And they're all going into the tent at the Quidditch World Cup.
And he's looking at his tent like, how did all of them just walk in there?
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And then he's like, there's no way.
He walks in and he sees how beautiful it is on the inside.
So much space and everything like that.
And he just says, I love magic.
Of this movie, that was the thing that he did at this time.
And I saw his response to that and just how he looked in his eyes,
looking from outside of the tent to inside of the tent.
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It was pretty cool.
Yeah. I love his wonderment of everything.
It's awesome that by the fourth movie, he still hasn't gotten over all this.
It's still wowing him, you know?
Yes. Good point.
All right, Kayla, what about you?
So my favorite quote is kind of a nice one.
It's not as goofy as everyone else's, but it's okay.
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That's okay.
But yeah.
Yeah. Albus Dumbledore, he's talking to Harry and he says,
Dark and difficult times lie ahead.
Soon we must all face the choice between what is right and what is easy.
And inspiring to live by.
That's a good one.
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Yes. Love it.
Albus has some great quotes, like every single movie.
I know.
What about you, Kathy?
I loved everyone's quotes that they offered.
So this one that I just love in the movie, it's just so funny.
So Ron and this awkward moment where Ron's been jealous,
they haven't been talking to each other and they see each other and Ron's like,
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At least I warned you about the dragons.
Hagrid warned me about the dragons.
No, no, no, I did.
No, I don't remember.
I told Hermione to tell you that Seamus told me that
Pavarti told Dean that Hagrid was looking for you.
Seamus never actually told me anything, so it was really me all along.
I thought we'd be all right, you know, after you figured that out.
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Who could possibly figure that out?
That's completely mental.
Isn't it?
Yeah. Spies also pay to stroll.
Boys.
Yes, I just love that part.
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That line.
I'm just like, what was me?
No, no, no.
Figured that out.
Did you see?
Like, duh, how couldn't you know that was me that warned you?
Goodness.
So relatable.
For me, yeah, you could really pick so many different things,
but I love the scene where Hermione is talking to Fred and George.
It's not going to work.
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Oh, yeah.
And why is that, Granger?
You see this?
This is an age line.
Dumbledore drew it himself.
So?
So, a genius like Dumbledore couldn't possibly be fooled by a daughter's
pathetically dim witted as an aging potion.
That's why it's so brilliant.
Because it's so pathetically dim witted.
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They just own their dim wittedness, you know?
That's why it's gonna be awesome!
Yeah.
In fact, that's the only time they ever saw each other as old people.
Oh, that's true.
I love you, David.
Oh, yeah.
That's true.
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Alright, well, why don't we turn it over to Kayla to talk about some of the differences
from the book and the movie.
Alright, so I'll start with the classic Dumbledore's reaction
when it comes to Harry putting his name in the Goblet of Fire.
So, yeah.
Fans love to make fun of Dumbledore's over the top reaction
to Harry putting his name into the Goblet of Fire.
He runs toward Harry, grabs him by the shoulders, and accusingly shouts at him.
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This is a stark contrast to Dumbledore calmly asking this question in the book.
It's a strange moment in the film as it plainly contradicts
Dumbledore's normal, composed, compassionate, and calculated personality.
You have the actual quote from the book where he says,
Russell Dumbledore was now looking down at Harry,
who looks right back at him trying to discern the expression of eyes
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behind the half moon spectacles.
Did you put your name into the Goblet of Fire, Harry?
He asked calmly.
Yeah, it wasn't so calmly in the movie.
Right.
That's a good point.
It made us not like Dumbledore a little bit.
It was harder to adjust from the old Dumbledore because of that scene.
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Yeah.
But we liked him later on.
He was needed.
Yeah, he grew on us for sure.
Oh, what happened?
Drama, I guess.
Yep.
Yeah, another part that was not in the books was Winky the house elf.
She wasn't ever mentioned in the movies at all.
And yeah, Winky the house elf is an important character in the book.
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She serves the Crouch family and plays an important role in many secrets
and revelations concerning Barty Crouch Jr.
Barty Crouch Senior fires her and she ends up working in the Hogwarts kitchen
where Dobby does his best to help her despite Barty Crouch Jr.'s importance to the plot.
Winky plays no role in the film.
Yeah, no Winky.
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Another one is Spew where mostly Hermione is involved enraged by Barty Crouch Senior's
treatment of Winky and the treatment of all house elves in the magical community.
Hermione decides to create an organization named Spew Society for the Promotion of Elvish Welfare.
This is less wordy and more likely to fit on a badge than the initial name she thought of.
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Stopped outrageous abuse of our fellow magical creatures and companion for change and their
legal status.
Tensions the campaign doesn't go over well.
Most people see the house elves as happy with their work and have no desire to change things.
Even the house elves are insulted by Hermione's attempts to disrupt their lives.
Though Dobby and Winky in the film, there isn't an opportunity to incorporate the
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Spew storyline in all of its glory.
It's like a big part of the book.
She's constantly hounding Ron and Harry to help her with her cause and to like recruit others.
And it's funny.
Yeah, Spew.
Phil, um, if you're gonna spew, spew into this.
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Easy come, easy go.
Will you let me go?
Interesting.
I mean, they do a really good job showing Lucius, Mountfoy and Dobby's relationship in the
beginning.
Yeah.
How it just treats them like crap.
And that's interesting.
Yeah, I never would have known that if you didn't tell me.
Yep.
Missing obstacles from the third task.
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The book features a number of difficult obstacles during the third task of the Tri-Wizard
tournament, most of which aren't included in the movie.
There is a Sphinx guarding the closest route to the Tri-Wizard Cup who will only move aside
and refrain from attacking if a riddle is answered correctly.
Other obstacles included last-ended Scrooge, Boggarts and a golden mist that turns things
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upside down.
Omitting all these obstacles makes the third task much less exciting in the movie.
That's true.
I agree with that.
Yep.
Sphinx and all that stuff.
Yeah.
Yeah, they could put a couple of those in there.
Yep, for sure.
I guess they just wanted to get to the graveyard scene.
Yeah.
Rita Skeeter as Hannah Mangus.
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While the journalist Rita Skeeter does not appear in the film, she plays a smaller role
than in the book.
The movie also omits the most intriguing part of her story, which is that she is an
unregistered Annie Mangus who can transform herself into a beetle.
Being a beetle allows her to eavesdrop on all manner of conversations and find juicy
tibets for her stories.
Hermione uncovers the truth and the threat of reporting Rita's unregistered Annie Mangus
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status to the Ministry puts her in check for the time being.
Yeah.
Shocker.
Shocker that she would cheat to give a story.
She's a little beetle.
Yep.
Yep.
Oh, Joe.
A villain.
Yeah, the book really showed how bad she was even more than the movie for sure.
Yeah.
I didn't read the books and I just had that feeling that she was a terrible villain.
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Good call, John.
Good call.
Pick up on the vibes.
The number one bad villain.
All right, last one.
Marty Crouch's fate.
Marty Crouch Jr. suffers a dark fate in the book as he receives a dementor's kiss,
meaning that his soul's forever sucked out of his body.
This makes him nothing more than a living vegetable and he is unable to testify before
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the Wissigmont or provide any useful information about Voldemort and his return to power.
He makes it clear that Crouch Jr. will be sent to Aspen.
The audience is never shown or told that he receives a dementor's kiss in any of the films,
including The Goblet of Fire.
Yeah, pretty dark.
Yep, gets his soul sucked out.
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All right, that's all of them.
Nice.
Thanks, Kayla.
And the Gillyweed.
Oh, that wasn't in there either.
But like the Gillyweed, Dobby actually gets it for Harry.
Yes.
In the book.
Yep.
Not Neville.
Good point.
Nice.
Voldemort's the worst at killing Harry Potter.
Like, he could have just smothered him with a pillow when he was a baby.
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But he also could have killed him in the graveyard when he was trapped in the thing.
Yeah, he was like, come on, if your goal in life is to kill Harry Potter,
you're terrible at your job.
Like, he totally could have done it.
It's like most bad guys in most movies, you know, just like, bam, you know, don't do it.
Yeah, I just wanted to mention that.
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That's a good point, because like, I feel like the wizards in general,
they are so oblivious to the options they have available to them outside of magic.
Like, you really don't have to do it, like, zap them with anything.
There's a lot of other options you got there.
Yeah.
Yeah, absolutely.
So after they introduced two other schools for the Triwizard Tournament,
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there's a deleted scene that they show on Peacock.
And Peacock, if you guys watch the movie on Peacock,
it automatically plays with some of the deleted scenes.
Oh, nice.
And Dumbledore has all of Hogwarts stand up and sing a Hogwarts theme song.
It is atrocious.
Hoggy, Hoggy, Hogwarts?
Yeah, it is so bad.
(01:01:31):
It's in the book.
Oh, my gosh, it's terrible.
It is so bad.
Like, if you see the worst in the Tuscan school one.
Our elementary school back in the day.
Also, did you catch that they sing Hoggy, Hoggy, Hogwarts with Hagrid
still in the original movie?
(01:01:51):
Oh, I had the subtitles on.
Yeah.
I was sitting there reading along with it.
It was so bad.
Sometimes you see a scene that's deleted,
you're like, man, they totally could have left that in.
That would have been awesome.
This was not one of those.
You're like, no, good call.
Delete that thing.
Embarrassed for them.
It was crazy.
Why didn't Harry Potter give Dudley chocolate?
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Yeah, because he didn't want to.
We thought of that, too.
All right, man.
So that was Goblet of Fire.
Great movie, great movie.
We all enjoyed it.
We had none of the real villains were and the real heroes.
Hey, thanks so much for listening to part one of this episode.
Stay tuned for more fun in part two.
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