October 28, 2024 • 68 mins
Welcome back to part 2 of this 2-part episode all about Harry Potter 6-7! In part 2 of this episode, the gang continue discussing Deathly Hallows Part 1 and go on to discuss Part 2. In addition to their favorites and least favorites of heroes, villains, scenes and quotes, the group shares where they would hide their horcrux (hypothetical, of course!) and how it could be destroyed. They also wrap up the series with even more amazing party ideas from Kathy and games from Kayla. Finally, Ben educates us all with some very interesting psychological tie-ins with the Harry Potter books and movies. Everyone's sad for the Harry Potter fun to come to an end but this was a great way to connect and have some laughs!
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Hey, welcome back. We hope you enjoy listening to part two of this episode.
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All right, let's get back to it with the rest of Deathly Hallows part one. Over to you, Kayla.
All right, next we'll go with favorite quotes. How about you start first, Ed?
All right. For me, it's the end with Dobby when he says...
Such a beautiful place to be with them.
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And, you know, being on this podcast with my favorite people in the world, I feel I can feel you, Dobby.
It's a good place to be with friends and family. And yeah, I just like that. So I like that quote.
Nice. Good stuff, Dobby.
Yeah.
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All right, John, you go. I'm going to stick with Dobby just because of the role he played throughout all of the movies.
His last words were Harry Potter, which also happened to be his first words. I know I mentioned that in the first episode, but just some nice little book enclosure there.
That's my favorite quote and Deathly Hallows.
Nice. Nice.
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All right, Ben, your turn.
So on Belletrix, Lestrange says...
Stupid elf! You could have killed me!
Dobby never meant to kill. Dobby only meant to maim or seriously injure.
I love it.
Yeah, that's a good one.
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Last but not least, Mom, you go.
So Ron is he just provides a lot of comedy and I love when he's taking the apologies question. He's playing this other part, you know, this man.
But the woman who's supposed to be like his wife, she's like, oh, it's Harry Potter. And he's like, yeah, it is, isn't it?
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Must be one to tell the kids and as like the mentors are like chasing them.
And then so this woman, her name is Mary, she thinks it's her husband. It's Ron, though, and she kisses him and he shrinks, you know, and her husband sees it and she's like mortified.
And then Ron turns into himself and then he says, Long story. Nice meeting you.
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Long story. Nice meeting you.
He's like, run away.
Nice meeting you.
It's just so funny that scene.
Those quotes, like just funny to me. And then after like they destroy, it's an intent Ron destroys this Horcrux. It's intense for him. Right.
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And they're both just exhausted and they're sitting down and then he's like, just just think only three to go.
You know, it's loving. So those are the funny ones, but I really did love Dobby's whole quotes too around around that too.
Yeah. Good ones.
What about you, Kayla?
All right. For mine, I thought it was kind of funny, but as soon as everyone's back from getting Harry safely to the burrow, George gets attacked by one of the Death Ears. You know, his ear is, I think it's ripped off or something. I can't remember.
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Yeah.
How are you feeling, Georgie?
Sight-like.
Come again?
Sight-like. I'm holy. I'm holy, Fred. Get it?
The whole wide world of ear-related humor and you go for, I'm holy. It's pathetic.
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I reckon I'm still better looking than you.
Yeah.
Just to tag onto that though, I like how the next morning, he sneaks into the kitchen when Jimmy and Harry Potter are kissing or whatever and he's like, morning.
He's got a toothbrush coming out of his ear.
Yeah.
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It's awesome.
All right. Next we'll go for differences between the book and the movie. Ben, would you mind leading us off?
Sure. So Flora invites Victor Crumb to her wedding in the book and he and Hermione are thrilled to see one another, but Ron jealously escorts her away to the dance floor.
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Crumb is also angered by seeing Luna's dad wearing the Deathly Hallows symbol.
Crumb only knows it as Grindelwald's symbol, which infuriates him because Grindelwald murdered his grandfather.
Man, maybe there's a lot to these books that I should know about.
Before we continue, I'm just going to, Dave, this is where I'm going to chime in.
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Where I had to text Dave this week, guys, because I realized, I can't believe this, for the very first time from a movie watcher, I never understood until this last watch that that was Flora de la Cora from The Goblet of Fire.
I never realized that. And then this week I'm like, holy cow.
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That's crazy, the book part where you just read Ben, that's crazy.
I even told Dave, they weren't even happy to see each other. What the heck?
And then with her inviting Crumb, that just makes more sense. And maybe I could have gathered it from that.
But yeah, I don't know why it never dawned on me that that was Flora de la Cora.
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Also, the other thing I told Dave was she really drops the French accent.
Where did it go in the movie between Goblet of Fire and now? It's not there.
That's true. If she had the French accent in Deathly Hallows Part 1, I would have picked up on it a lot sooner, but it's just not there.
That's fair. That's fair. Sorry, Ben. Sorry about that. Take it away, man.
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No problem. So in the book, Lupin actually tries to join Harry, Hermione and Ron to find the Horcruxes.
But Harry realizes that he's just trying to run away from Tonks, who's pregnant with his child.
And he's anxious about the child becoming a werewolf like him. And he just is trying to run away from his problems.
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And so Harry calls him out on it and calls him a coward for trying to leave his pregnant wife and only later does Lupin really realize that Harry's right.
I see why they left that out of the movie, though. Yeah.
That's a lot of... That's heavy.
That's heavy. Another one is, well, and John will love this, that Harry and Hermione don't dance in the tent. It's just not part of the movie.
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And so the Snatchers, the leader of the Snatchers in the movie is named Scabiorg.
In the book, this character actually has a smaller role as part of Fenrir Greyback's gang. You don't see that after he helps capture them and brings them to Malfoy Manor.
The last thing you see of him is getting choked out by Bellatrix Lestrange, right?
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Yeah, but in the movie, he kind of leads the charge of the gang in the second one, too. You see him again.
That's right. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's true.
In the book, Wormtail comes down to the cellar to see what is commotion and Harry and Ron ambush him.
Wormtail begins to choke Harry, but Harry reminds him that he owes Harry a life debt.
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Wormtail hesitates a moment and his fleeting mercy causes his silver hand to strangle himself.
Dang. I see where that was left out, too.
Yeah. All right. Here's a fun question.
Where would you hide your Horcrux and what could destroy it?
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Nice. First with mom. What would you pick?
Okay. So first of all, I wouldn't make a Horcrux, but if I was evil, I guess. Yeah.
Let's say. Right. Right. It would be a mascara tube and it would be hidden in a landfill.
And the way to destroy it is you'd have to put the mascara on.
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You'd have to apply it to your eyelashes and then you would have to take the mascara wand and you'd have to poke your eyes with it.
Oh, good one.
That's not that stinky landfill.
I'll let you live forever. That's fine. Yeah.
We're not going to kill that one. Good one. Good one.
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Harsh. All right, Ben, how do you go next?
So I would just like put it down a toilet or a porta potty.
Gross. Yeah.
And as far as destroying it, it goes back to just what I've said in an earlier podcast.
I hate tuna fish, so smother it with tuna.
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Nice.
All right, dad, how about you go next?
All right. I was trying to think what would be like the most random, weird, hard place to find it.
And so I decided Wormtail's pinky bone, the thing he lost when he got like, you know, the thigh got exploded or whatever.
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And he just lost his finger. That's all I found.
So who's going to mess with like Wormtail's pinky bone?
And to destroy it, you have to eat it.
Ew.
Who's going to do that either, right?
I mean, Double Door had to drink a lot of crazy water, but eat a pinky bone? That's disgusting.
Okay, gross.
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All right, John, you're next.
You can't destroy what you can't find.
So my Horcrux is going into my invisibility cloak that my new best friend post-Hogwarts battle gave to me.
So yeah, so Harry gave me the invisibility cloak after all that, because he already destroyed the wand.
He didn't want that. So he doesn't need all three of the dead gallows anymore.
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So he gave me the invisibility cloak.
That's where I'm putting my Horcrux.
Nice.
So yeah, good luck finding that one, suckers.
What about you, Kayla?
All right, for mine, I kind of had the idea of using my wand as a Horcrux.
I'd kind of be like the final boss battle.
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You first, and then you can get my wand.
And then to destroy the wand, you'd have to use the three unforgivable purses on it.
So what if somebody wins your wand in a battle?
They still have to destroy it.
Yeah, like that's how you get the Horcruxes, just by defeating me in a duel.
Nice, good answer. I like it.
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I like it.
I hope you win.
But we're not evil.
We're not evil, yeah.
None of us are making Horcruxes, of course.
I mean, yeah, no, of course. No, that's just where I told you I put that one.
I'm not going to tell you about the other one.
John, you want to share your thoughts on this one?
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Okay, so here's just real quick, a couple of big thoughts I had on Deathly Hallows Part 1.
So it would have been really cool if we did this for each of the movies, but just something I happened to scroll through real quick.
The budget for this movie was $125 million.
Guess how long it took them to make that money back?
I don't know.
A month.
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Opening weekend.
Oh, dang.
Opening weekend, and then on top of that, they made back another $17,000.
Just that weekend.
Just opening weekend.
Dang.
Yeah, things like that fascinate me, but if we had done that for each one, that would be cool, but I just happened to come across that.
And then overall, they were short $40 million on Deathly Hallows Part 1 of making a billion dollars.
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Holy cow.
Wow.
Globally, globally.
Oh, dang.
God, oh man.
A lot of cash.
All right, so I loved in this movie this sense, and I think Caleb and I talked about this when she was talking about the fear, but I loved the sense of the impending doom shown throughout the beginning of the movie.
Like when Hermione obliviates her parents, and Ron's just kind of staring out into the field, right?
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I just thought that was done really well for the buildup starting this movie.
Okay, so Dave and I have talked about this previously through text, but how in the world did Hermione's parents answer the question from their friends about how Hermione is doing?
So she obliviates her parents, not her parents' friends. She only obliviates her parents.
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So to her friends, they're all at a dentist party, right?
Dentist party.
They're all hanging out at the dentist's rave, and they're like, yo, how's Hermione? They're like, who?
That would drive me like literally insane that people kept talking about this daughter I'm supposed to have.
But she got rid of my memory of her, and so I got no clue who they're talking about. I think that would just drive me insane. I really did.
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Oh yeah, no, that's crazy.
I've never saw that.
Yeah, don't watch movies with me. I think of the weirdest stuff.
So it's funny because when I started watching this movie, I told you, you know, they've got these movies on HBO Max for those that have that.
It was also on Peacock, and I started watching it in August, and in August I was up in Colorado. And between August, when I started watching the Deathly Hallows Part 1 and September, they took it off Peacock.
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I still got HBO, and I still have the movies on DVD, obviously, but like I said, you know, Peacock will show you the deleted scenes while you're watching the movie.
So it doesn't give you the options to just add the deleted scenes or hey, you know, click here if you want to watch a quick deleted scene. It just plays them throughout.
It does it.
And there was a deleted scene at the very beginning between Petunia Dursley and Harry Potter. And I'm not going to do voices because I don't want to do y'all wrong over there because y'all listen to us.
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Harry finds Aunt Petunia, she's standing alone in the living room, just kind of looking at the house, and Petunia says,
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You didn't just lose a mother that night in Godric's horror, you know.
I lost a sister.
And then pauses for another second, looks at him and leaves.
And the scene itself was actually really well done. And they could have totally left it in there. Not all of the scenes that they deleted scenes they put in there are great. There's been some really atrocious ones.
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I like the Hogwarts school song and stuff but that one, they should have left that in there. I thought that would have been really good.
Yeah.
Those are my thoughts on Deathly Hallows part one guys.
Thanks, John. Good stuff. Good stuff.
All right, headed into the next part, Deathly Hallows part two.
Yeah.
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Yeah.
Let's start with the themes.
All right. What did you guys think of? What were the themes for this movie?
Let's start with Dave.
All right. You know, there's a lot of sacrifice, right? Giving it oneself for the greater good, especially when Voldemort is calling out to the school saying turnover Harry and people don't, you know, like the Slytherins are about to and McGonagall kicks them all out basically.
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And then Harry's like, All right, I'm gonna do this and he faces Voldemort and his fear, you know, for everyone. And I just I love that.
Mm hmm. Yes. Good. Thanks, Dave. Ben, what do you think some themes are?
Oh, as far as themes, you know, I struggle with this. And what I put down here was maybe who you are now trumps whatever you may have been.
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I can see that because like Dumbledore, they have that theme of, you know, there's this book, apparently, of like, tell all about Dumbledore or kind of questioning Harry Aberforth.
Like, did you really know him and the witches and wizards? Like, didn't you know him, Harry? You know, and he kind of had a past.
Yeah.
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And he was younger to get power, sort of, you know, like he was in with Grindelwald and trying to just become a powerful wizard and and then his sister dies and all that.
But he changes in the end.
Yeah.
You talk about like the arches and all the characters too, you know, like they can change.
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Yeah, I feel like in the series as a whole, you see how, like you say, these character arcs where people change and it's like, okay, now's the time to step up.
Forget about past mistakes or what might have happened or whatever and just be your best self now, you know.
I think that's really good, Ben. Thanks for sharing that.
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Kayla, what about you? I think for this one, I thought of courage and determination. I mean, I feel like everyone had an end goal and courage just to get it done, you know.
McGonagall protecting all the students and everyone inside of Hogwarts and Harry going in in the end to die because he needs to, because he's a horror book.
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So anyway, yeah, just, yeah, everyone just trying to fight and be brave for the future.
Everyone except for Lucy's Mouth Boy.
Not very courageous.
That's true.
So for me, I felt like a theme for like Harry was that acceptance piece because, and I think back to like the grieving cycle and like one of the stages of grief is acceptance.
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And then maybe you don't necessarily agree with it or like you didn't want whatever happened.
But Harry, he gets to this point of he just is accepting, yeah, I don't really want to die, but I'm willing to do that. Like he's submitting to that.
I just felt like that over the movie, just that acceptance of, okay, yep, I'm going to die.
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Like I have to give my life. I'm going to give it.
And then the themes of life and death, I felt like throughout the movie, just what that means, you know, like fighting for your family, for your friends.
What's your purpose for fighting, you know, and connection and loyalty.
There's a theme of just fighting for your life, I guess, you know, a lot of death.
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So it's just like, what are you fighting for? You know, kind of a thing.
It's good stuff. Good answers, Kathy.
Oh, thanks. Well, thanks, you guys. Those are good. Thanks for sharing.
Okay, so next, your favorite heroes and why, Ben, would you go first?
I just love Harry just ends on such a good note as far as you were saying, like accepting what has to happen and embracing the love that he has for everyone else.
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Like he's doing this in part because he cares about everyone else. Like this is going to affect not just himself.
And I just feel like he was really strong in this one.
Yeah, he never wanted the glory, right? Ever. So he did it out of love. It's awesome.
Yeah, good thoughts on Harry. Yes, he's a hero. Dave, how about you?
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I chose McGonagall for this one. There's a lot of heroes. Obviously, Harry is a big one, but McGonagall because, you know, she stands up and kind of takes over the school and gets Snape out of there.
And, you know, calls down the gargoyles and does these like awesome spells and tough stuff. And I don't know. She's a great actress, too.
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I think it's really fun to see her. She's older, you know, and she's like, no, we're going to do this and kind of leads the charge for the battle. So McGonagall is pretty awesome.
Yeah, I almost forgot that she wasn't in Deathly Hallows Part 1. Yeah. The only one she's not in. Is it the only one she's not in? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. McG.
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She's awesome. Did you know too, and this is a fact that she at one point was battling cancer and still filming. Oh, dang. I feel like I remember that now you say that. But yeah.
Yeah. So I'm not sure I can't remember which movie it was, but she would still come and do her thing. She's amazing. Yeah, she's awesome. Doesn't she have the title of Dame or whatever?
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Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Take my waist.
What?
She's awesome. I love it. Love her. All right, John, what about you?
Okay, so I think you guys are wrong, and I think the hero is the dragon at Green Guts.
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Yeah, it's Harry. Harry's definitely the ultimate hero because he kills Baltimore. I give honorable mention, even though he's the turns into the headmaster and the bad guy but for playing his role as he should have played it perfectly between what he and Dumbledore discussed.
For sure. Yeah. John, I love how you always have to get the right answer for like the best and the worst. It's not like your choice. This is the best and the right one.
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That's awesome.
Dragon there. He did help save them. Yeah, he's a hero too.
I have a couple of thoughts on this movie. I'm going to mention him again in just a moment. Go ahead. Cool. Cool. Cool. Cool. Cool. So for me, I was all over the place but Neville, I love seeing how he has so much confidence in this movie.
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And he's got a good heart. He always has, you know, but just that he's got this confidence
and just the spirit of like, he's going to do us right, you know, but just like helping
blow up the bridge and the courage that it took to stand up to Voldemort and like being
true Giffen Dorn and getting the sword and saving people that way, like the Horcrux of
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Nagini, you know, and then just not giving in, especially like with Voldemort, when it
looked like Voldemort had won, you know, that he was like, no, I'm not going to stand down.
It doesn't matter that Harry's gone. Stand down, Neville. People die every day. Friends,
family. Yeah. We lost Harry tonight. He's still with us. And here, he's still with us.
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So has Fred. Remus. Tunks. All of them. They didn't die in vain. But you will. Because
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you're wrong. Harry's heart did beat for us. For all of us. So love Neville for that. It's
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interesting because you know what you just said, Neville goes from standing up to his
friends and then at the end, standing up with his friends or for his friends. So yeah, yeah.
Good call. He's got a lot of courage. Yeah. And you practice. Practice standing up, you
know, having a voice and having courage. Yeah. I mean, once you stand up to your friends,
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obviously you can stand up to Voldemort. I mean, yeah. I mean, how much harder can that
be? It's hard. Yeah. If Dumbledore was around, he'd give him five points for cutting off
in a genie's head. Like, come on Dumbledore. Give Neville some love. Yeah, come on man.
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And then of course Harry, we were talking about Harry destroying all the Horcruxes,
submitting himself to die, destroying Voldemort and then Ron and Hermione just relentlessly
helping him and Snape. Yeah. We were saying before, just all that time playing the part
of the villain, protecting Harry, risking his life each day, helping Dumbledore, telling
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Harry at the right time, that part of that Voldemort was in Harry and just being the
ultimate double spy. Yeah. Good call. So awesome. All right. Thanks guys. Those are awesome.
There's a lot of good heroes in this movie. Let's do our favorite or these favorite villains
and why. Kayla, would you like to go first? Okay. Yeah. So obviously my favorite is Snape.
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I mean, I don't know at this point if he was just a villain or hero, but he was really
It got very confusing. He was good at playing as a villain. Now I'll say that. Yes. Voldemort
is obviously my least favorite. I mean, he was just so cruel to all his followers. I mean,
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he's frustrated and mad. He killed one of his followers at one point. Tells Lucius that
he sucks pretty much and bids him to do his will and stuff. And then kills Snape, but
he didn't. The most cruel thing to do. Telling his snake to kill him and like, I didn't want
to see it. You could still see it, but I didn't want to see it. So yeah. The way that you
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said that though, Snape is your favorite villain because he played his role right against Voldemort
being the least favorite. I think that's exactly right. That's the way to say that. I think
that's definitely the right call. Yeah. That's awesome. Thanks, Kayla. Yeah. All right, John,
what about you? I'm going to go with Tom Marvolo Riddle. I mean, like this is the final movie.
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He had to be the villain. He's got to be that guy. I love how once Harry's like, you know what?
We're going to do this. This is it. You and me. And how I just think it's so disrespectful. He
just calls him Tom. He's like, all right, Tom, let's go. Come on, Tom. Let's finish this the way
we started.
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Yeah. It's one of my favorite parts of the whole final battle. He's like, all right, Tom, you and
me, let's do it. But yeah, I think obviously Voldemort is the worst. The guy is just terrible.
Yeah, sure. This movie, John. Can't have this movie without him. So yeah. All right, Ben,
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what about you? Yeah, I went with Voldemort as well, although in my head, I still keep thinking
of him as Tommy Boy. All right, Tommy Boy. Tommy Boy. Tommy want Horcrux.
It's just so disrespectful, man. I love it. Yeah. He's the mastermind behind all of this. And he's
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been the villain throughout. So he's got to have that on stand out at the end here. Yeah. I forgot
to mention this about Voldemort. It's super small, but I like how he exclaims in this movie, too.
When he's shouting spells and just how he laughs in the movie is really funny, too. Yeah. That was
funny.
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Yeah.
Yes. We like to laugh. Yeah. The noises and things. Yeah. Yeah. It makes his non-nose less scary.
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Yeah. Yeah. All right, Dave, what about you? Yeah, I don't have anything more to add. You
guys picked the best ones. Voldemort for sure is terrible. And Snape is an awesome double agent,
but you know, you're also at the beginning, you're angry at him too, because he's, you know, he's
taking over the school and lies out of there. And anyway, so yeah, he's sitting there at the
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top of the school, watching everybody walking or whatever. Yeah, exactly. It's great. Yeah.
Yeah. Those are good thoughts. So for me, I, yeah, Voldemort, he's the worst, you know,
and all of this, and willing to kill like so many and just, oh, he said something I don't like,
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about a good dad, you know, like, what? You know, like, oh my gosh, just, he's just evil. And,
and like Caleb was saying, the way he like just shames Lucius and Ahoy, like, how can you deliver
yourself? Like, dude, and like killing Snape and like, he just has no respect for life. Like,
he just doesn't, you know, he just doesn't respect life and people are, so he's evil.
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And then Bellatrix is his little evil sidekick, of course, and she's mocking and killing and just
terrible. Yeah. You're right though. I mean, it looks like he wants to kill all these people
just so he can stay alive. Like that's the end game is just so he can live. Yeah. Like what's his
plan after that? Like, I know he wants to keep everybody pure blood and all that, but like,
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what's it gonna start another school? I mean, he's not doing this to really do it. He just wants to
stay alive. Yeah. Selfish. Kill all these people. Yeah. All right. Thanks everybody. So our favorite
scenes. Dave, would you like to go first this time? Yeah, my favorite scene is Neville stepping out.
We kind of talked about it already, but his little speech standing up to Voldemort, you know, he
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thinks everyone thinks that Harry's dead. And so that was kind of their really last hope thinking,
and that's who they were trying to protect and everything else. And he's like, you know what,
I don't even care. I'm gonna stand up to him and, and still fight. And then Harry's reveal. I just,
that whole scene, just that part of it is like my favorite. I hate how Jenny's like, who's he
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holding? Who's he holding? Who's holding? Like who else is it gonna be? Yeah. Okay.
Yeah. Just shocked. Like, can it really be? Yeah. Yeah. And that part too, Dave, I love like, we,
we just like watched that tonight, the kids and I, and I love that scene too, cause Voldemort's face,
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like he does, the actor does such a good job and like everyone freaking out and he's like,
that's the best. It's like, oh, yeah. I like how Voldemort barely even took like hold his wand.
He's like, yeah, yeah. It's like hanging on by pinky. That's like, yeah, he's pouring a drink
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or something. Yeah. I like to that, like Neville is, he's beat up, you know, he's limping. He's
like bloody and he's just like, nah, you know, even in this condition, I'm gonna keep fighting. So
it's awesome. Yeah. I love that. So one of my favorite scenes too, that's hilarious is when
Draco goes to Voldemort and Voldemort gives him that super awkward hug. You guys know what I'm
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talking about? Yeah. And he just kind of like leans in there and he like looks so awkward and
he's like, oh, there's like reasons to round weird. It's all like improvise. And that's why like the
actor Tom Felton was like, I don't know what to do. And he's like so frozen and it's just hilarious.
I love that scene. I love it too, that he didn't know. Yeah. Good scene, Dave. Okay, Ben, would
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you like to go next? I love the scene of the escape from Green Gods. Yeah. It's just intense,
you know, and you can really get into it and I don't know, it's just fun. Oh yeah. Yeah, the
Green Gods bank is, it is intense and I love it. And it's crazy. Yeah. That is a good scene, Ben.
Thank you. The ride is good too. Oh yes. The ride is good too. Yes, the ride is good. Yes. Awesome.
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I'm gonna put a plug in. Yes. Kayla, what about you? What was your favorite scene?
I think I liked the conversation with Harry and Dumbledore. I mean, I liked the scene of King's
Cross, but it's clean. Yeah. And just the conversation they have together, kind of like a
loss. All right, what do I do now? And Dumbledore's like, well, that's up to you. And I kind of like
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Harry keeps asking questions too, but Dumbledore's like, I'm trying to leave. All right, I'm gonna go.
You got this. Yeah. Doses. Minus the bloody toddler Voldemort. That thing's gross.
What is that? You can't help it. You can't help it. Just keep moving. Harry, please.
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When they're like, Daring is like, is this all real? Or is it just happening inside my head?
Of course it's happening inside your head, Harry. Why should that mean that it's not real?
John, do you want to go next? Today, play the clip.
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It seems, despite your exhaustive defensive strategies,
you still have a bit of a security problem, headmaster.
I'm afraid it's quite extensive. How dare you stand where he stood?
Tell them how it happened that night. Tell them how you looked him in the eye.
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A man who trusted you and killed him. Tell them.
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That is a good scene. I love it. That's goosebumps, man. How dare you stand where he stood?
And it's almost kind of hard to hear because the glass shatters, but she calls him a coward.
It's so interesting what you learn when you watch with subtitles on.
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I thought forever, Luna was saying, Roina Ravenclaw's lost item. I didn't know what that was.
Oh, it's a diadem. Got it.
Now you get it.
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But it just sounded like item. I was like, okay, you lost an item?
Got it. Of course it's lost. Everybody knows about her lost item. I mean, duh.
I wonder if they don't know.
It's lost. What is it even called? It's just a thing, an item.
That's exactly what I thought.
It was funny, man. How about you, Cathy?
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I love all of these scenes from this, but mine is like when Harry, he learns the truth from Snape's
memories of what he's got to do and he accepts that he must die. And he's got the snitch,
he's holding that and he says, I'm ready to die. And it opens and there's the resurrection stone.
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And I think that's so sweet and so thoughtful that Dumbledore would do that for Harry.
Like that he would entrust Harry with that resurrection stone so that he could feel the
love and support of his family and friends, his friends that were his family. So my favorite quote,
I'll share that later. It goes with this scene, but like, I just love that. And then he just
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drops it too. Like he wants that's done and he's ready. Like he just lets it go.
Like that's all he needs. That's enough. And it's going to be lost, you know? And I just love that
too about that scene.
It's crazy because if the man didn't come read the will, Ron never would have found his way back.
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Hermione wouldn't have understood the Deathly Hallows and he wouldn't have had the resurrection
stone. Yeah. Yeah.
Dumbledore's the hero. He's the man. So thoughtful. And it's just such a sweet scene. I just love it
so much. And not just that, but his vision, because he knew everything was going to happen.
He knew he had to give all that stuff to them. But he's been dead already. You're not even in
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this movie. So it's just like pretty cool.
Yeah. Yeah. Like he planned that. I think it's cool too. All right. What about our favorite
quotes? Let's start with Kayla. Would you like to go first on this one?
Okay. Yeah. This one is a classic. And it's my favorite. We're never going to go having
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a conversation about the explosives. He says, let me get this straight. You're actually giving
us permission to do this. That is correct. Long bottom to blow it up. Boom. Boom. Wicked.
How in the world are we going to do that? Why don't you confer with Mr. Finnegan? As I recall,
he has a particularly pro... I can't say. Proclivity.
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Proclivity for piontechnics. I could bring it down. That's just stupid. Now away you go.
Yes. Love it.
It's so good. It's worth saying twice. I love that part.
Yeah. Ben, would you like to go next? Sure. So that's when Lupin says,
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it is the quality of one's convictions that determine success, not the number of followers.
Then Shacklebolt, right? He's like, who said that? Is that somebody? He's like, I did.
I said that was me. Yeah.
Yep. All right. Good quote, Ben. Thank you. Yeah. Good one.
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All right. John, do you want to go next? One of my favorite quotes in this one is when they
used the apology post at the beginning of the movie. Ben reminded me he does a great job
as Bellatrix Lestrange, but he just gets a dag on Ali and the Death Eater is addressing him. He goes,
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I am Lestrange. Good morning.
Good morning. Good morning. Bellatrix Lestrange, not some dewy-eyed schoolgirl.
I thought that was so funny. She was right. She instantly felt bad,
but the way she said it was so funny to me. Good morning.
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Good morning. Like squeaks it out kind of, yeah.
Yeah. Yeah, man. Bellatrix Lestrange did so good.
That actress playing Hermione, playing her. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
So good. I wish to enter my vault.
Identification.
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Yeah. That's awesome. All right, Dave, what about you?
All right. Mine is from Dumbledore. He says,
Words are in my not so humble opinion, our most inexhaustible source of magic,
capable of both inflicting injury and remedying it.
I like that quote. Me too.
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Wise words about words. Yeah.
All right. That sounds awesome. So for me, Ron's just so funny.
Yeah. So he speaks parcel time to open the chamber of secrets and then he says,
Harry talks in his sleep. Have you noticed? It's like, he's like,
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Have you noticed? I love that.
And then in the flames of the room of requirement, Harry says,
we can't leave them like Draco and his other friend, I guess, they're going to die.
They're on top of all the furniture and it's burning. And Ron says,
he's joking, right? And then Ron says again,
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if we die for them, Harry, I'm going to kill you.
Yeah. Love it.
I love his humor and all of this, you know, these crazy intense scenes. I just love it.
JK Rowling and the Scream Riders. And I just love it.
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So, and then my favorite, and it's so sweet is just that,
C and I talked about with Harry and his family and his friends and his mom says,
You've been so brave, sweetheart.
Why are you here? All of you.
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We never left.
Does it hurt dying quicker than falling asleep?
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You're nearly there, son.
I'm sorry. I never wanted any of you to die for me.
And Remus, your son.
Others will tell him what his mother and father died for.
One day, he'll understand.
You'll stay with me.
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Until the end.
And he won't be able to see you.
No, we're here. You see.
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Stay close to me.
Always.
And then he drops the stone and I just love, I just love that scene that he gets those moments.
Like he just, who wouldn't want that to have those just a moment with their loved ones that
have passed on, especially like your mom and dad that he didn't know to have that courage and
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feel their strength and love and support at the end when he thinks I'm going to die.
And I just think it's really special that the idea, you know, that they were always with him,
which I love, which I was going to point out his mom and dad are definitely both heroes that
they died for him. And if it wasn't for the invisibility cloak from his dad,
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things would definitely be different. And then his mom's protection charm of love,
like being so powerful, more powerful than Voldemort.
Yeah.
I think that deserves mention as well.
Definitely. Okay. That was a long one, did you guys?
No, that was great.
Yeah.
And always, you know, the significance of that word with Lily and with Snape, huh?
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Yeah. Yeah. That is significant. Thanks everybody. All right. So differences between
the book and movie and John is going to take that away for us. Thank you.
Okay. So some of the differences, like so I've been told from this book, so Dumbledore's sister
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Arianna is Hermione's sister, Arianna. The movie doesn't address Dumbledore's sister very much at
all, but she was killed during a fight Dumbledore had with Grindelwald. They talk about that at the
very end just for a snippet, but Dumbledore covers it up and lies about it until he and his brother
finally shed some light on it. So there's more to it in the book. There's a lot of background in that
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story. Yeah. Yeah. And they just barely touch on in the movie, but some of Snape's memories
that don't appear in the film are when Snape and Lily first meet James Potter and Sirius Black
on the Hogwarts Express, where they argue about which Hogwarts house is best. Also Snape apologizes
to Lily for calling her a mudblood, while Lily tells him he's tired of making excuses for him.
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Finally, one of his memories reveals that Petunia wrote to Dumbledore in the hopes that she could
attend Hogwarts, which is interesting because the animosity she has for not being able to be part of
the magic world and everything. Very, very interesting. And Harry in Baltimore's final duel
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in the book, remember now there's a book, Harry and Voldemort are seen circling each other as
the survivors of the battle. Harry shares the truth about the power of love, Snape sacrificed
Annie Elder Wand before using a disarming charm to defeat Voldemort once and for all.
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That's crazy, huh? Yeah. The next one is the fate of the actual Elder Wand. So in the book,
Harry uses the Elder Wand to repair his phoenix feather wand. He also vows to hold on to the Elder
Wand and when he dies, the Elder Wand's power will die with him and the bloodshed surrounding the
legendary weapon will die, will end. Yeah, crazy. So he doesn't just snap in half. So much better
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than snapping it. Yeah. Yeah. Greater use. Yeah, to fix it. What if somebody got it from him?
I think he did the right thing in the movie just to snap it right then and there because he knew
the dangers it held. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe snapping it, they could repair it. I don't know. Look,
so if I have to get rid of a credit card, I'm sitting there snipping through my name and my
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credit card number and everything and I will throw that out in like three different trash cans.
And he just throws both of the little pieces of the wand over the same side of the bridge.
I'm like, what are some of these down there hanging out? Some kids from Hogwarts are like,
yo, let's go ditch class and hang out. And they come across the Elder Wand.
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Just come down like a
little bit. Yeah, exactly. Didn't they just hunt down seven horcruxes or something like that?
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He knows the lengths people will go to to find things that are important, you know? Yeah, exactly.
They are both pieces right together. Yes.
The least he could have done, like I said earlier, he could at least use the Elder Wand to put the
spool back together for crying out loud. Yeah. Ron goes down there and tapes it together, tries
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to do the eat slugs thing and it's like super slugs from the Elder Wand. Eat slugs.
Yeah, because Ron's good at him like, what did you do? He's going after it. For sure.
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All right. Well, awesome. John, did you want to share some other thoughts with us? Yeah,
I'll just be super quick for everybody. So look, end of the movie, we got through all of them.
My thoughts on this movie specifically, though, in the very beginning, Harry Potter stated that he
wanted to bury Dobby without the use of magic. OK, I count the headstone as part of the burial.
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There is no way you're going to convince me on this green earth that they did not use magic to
write the headstone. That handwriting was too perfect. I'm sorry. That was magic.
Maybe Hermione is like, Harry, he needs a headstone. Yeah, I'll use magic. I didn't make that
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promise. Yeah, that's all right. That's a good point, John, for sure. That's a good point.
All right. So second thought was I would like to have seen more of the story and like I know it's
probably in the book. In the movie, I would like to see more of Bill and Floor. And you know,
you all know that I just found out Floor was Floor de la Cour. But Bill has a deleted scene.
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Also, when they're at the beach to where, you know, he's talking to Harry Potter and he says,
you know, look, did you make any kind of deal or arrangement with Grip Hook? And if you did,
you best honor it, because if you don't, Grip Hook will make him pay. And it was just interesting
because, you know, I thought it build a good job when he had that little conversation with him.
I just would like to have seen him more. I thought in fact, I'm wrong. I thought under the
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Polyjuice Potion, I thought we learned in the first movie, the first time they used the Polyjuice
Potion that they were supposed to sound like the people they were imitating. Is that not right?
They had to cop their voices. Remember, they like at first they sounded like each other and they're
like, we got to sound different. They had to sound like Goyle and Crabb, right? Yeah. But they did.
They sounded like them. So why is it in the future uses of the Polyjuice Potion they don't?
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I think they kind of sounded like them. I think they copied them pretty well is what it was. But
what do you guys think? Except for Hermione. Yeah.
Bellatrix sounded exactly like Hermione. That's why I was wondering that for that exact reason,
because Bellatrix is a very well-known witch. You're going to tell me that the goblins at
Gringotts didn't recognize that that wasn't her voice. Yeah, right. Well, that's a little cool.
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Yeah, they did recognize they were. I mean, if he didn't use the imperial curse,
you know, but still like that did not sound like Bellatrix has like a very unique tone and
yeah, accent and everything. So I thought that was a little weird, but you know, maybe I'm wrong.
No, no, you're right. I decided that I'm going to withdraw all of the tens of dollars I have in my
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bank account and use the Gemino curse and just keep touching the money since I'll never win the lottery.
The tens of dollars.
All right. So when the dragon finally makes it out of Gringotts and it's got to sit there a minute to
catch breath, that was literally me last week when I was in Colorado visiting my parents.
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I was in Aurora, Colorado and I was visiting my parents and you know, the altitude was getting
to me. So every time I climbed the set of stairs, I was literally that dragon when he got out of
Gringotts, just sitting there catching breath. It was awful going upstairs. I didn't know how to go
stairs in forever. So one of the head cannons or fan fiction, whatever you want to call it,
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that Professor McGonagall, it wasn't an act of punishment, but an act of kindness that she
threw all Slytherin House in the dungeon. It was so that they didn't have to fight their family.
I have seen that and heard that.
Yeah.
Yeah. And I hadn't thought about it like that until somebody said that. And I was like, you know what?
That's probably a pretty dang good point.
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Yeah.
Yeah.
I like that.
Yeah.
Yeah. So I'm going to believe that to be true that that's really what happened in real life.
In real life in the movie.
Yeah.
Yeah. I love how Voldemort finally destroys when he destroys the protection shield that's over
Hogwarts. And then the Snatchers, they're able to go on the bridge. And then they start chasing Neville
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and Neville, he starts the thing and blows up the bridge. And nobody bothers to help Neville up
when they see his wand come and nobody helps him up.
Yeah, they're just standing there like, we're good.
We're good.
That's two.
There's like ten of them just standing there like, no, it's like, don't grab him.
He's hanging on for dear life. There's no bridge left. Like, come on.
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All right. I also found it interesting that in the Room of Requirement,
Goyle attempts to use a Vada Cadaver on Harry Potter, but Goyle ends up the one who dies in his own
fiery mess. Just thought that was interesting. And last but not least, I thought that in the
final scene, they did a really good job aging Harry, Ginny, Ron, Hermione and Draco. I would
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have liked to have seen Draco and Harry Potter shown at least as amicable in that last scene.
They saved each other's life at least once. And they're both there 20 years later,
or whatever it is, on the platform together. They should at least have given the nod or
something like that, you know?
Yeah. That would have been good.
They saved each other's life at least once. Come on.
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Yeah.
Dave, I've saved your life. How many times behind Tuscan School on that?
Likewise. We give each other nods.
But they did a good job of aging everybody and they all looked old like me.
Yeah. Yeah, it was good.
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But those are just my final little thoughts on the movie.
Good thoughts, man. I like it. I like it a lot.
All right. So, Kathy, do you have any more party treats, games and decorations you want to share
about with these last three movies, the last two books?
Sure. Yeah. So, we've gone over a lot of treats and things, but for decorations, potions is
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definitely like a big thing in movie six, so in book six. So, I have a lot of unpolished
silver trays and platters that I would use to just put stuff on it. And then I would go
occasionally when they were on sale to Hobby Lobby or Michael's and get bottles. They have
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really cool just different shapes and with the corks on top or whatever.
Yeah.
So, I got a bunch of those and I would just fill them. The love potion was I put red dye in it
and our purple and Felix Felicis potion. I use, it was a tinier bottle and I would put corn syrup
or tiny gold glitter pieces in it, mix it up. So, it looked really cool when you moved it around.
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And then Gillyweed, I think at one point I put like lettuce in there, you know, like green water,
like lettuce or herbs or... So, I just, things like that, different potions. Wolf's Bane was black,
I think. Anyways. So awesome. At one party that we had, I did it with my friend and her husband
was chemistry. This is major was chemistry, his job. And so, he did a ton of actual chemistry.
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Potions.
Experiments with us and I couldn't do it, but he had all the ingredients and all the things
and it was legit. Yeah.
We called it wizards.
That was a really cool ad for sure.
And we've done some little sciencey, you know, little science project experiments on,
at our parties too.
That's right. Yeah, we did. Yeah.
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We have all the Horcruxes. So, Tom Riddle's diary that like I tried to get it to look like his too,
you know.
Yep. Drilled it and stuff. Yeah.
Damaging it and stuff and made a clay basculous thing too. And, you know,
was paying too and Marvolo Gantz-Marin, Helga Hufflepuff's cup, Salazar Slytherin's locket,
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the Gryffindor sword. That's interesting. There's no Horcrux for Gryffindor.
But the sword helps kill it all. So anyways, we have this sword Rowena Rodenclaw's diadem.
Item. Yeah.
I don't know where her item is. Yeah.
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It's funny. Yep. And then Nagini, we have like a long stuffed animal Python snake.
I still have that.
Do we have two?
Yeah. You had an extra one and asked if I could have it.
Oh yeah. Okay. All right. That's random.
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And then I would do chocolate coins to put, and I would like reuse them actually. Like just buy
them and then just like spread them out on the trays too. Let's see. I forgot to say this.
For the first one, we have like signs for all the houses, little wall signs that we put up that I
made. And then a sign for like the three broomsticks. And there's also the wanted poster for Harry
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Potter, especially like from the last two of these. Yeah. Yeah. That's right. That's right.
That's right. And then the sorting hat that plays a big role in the last movie book.
Stuffed animal, Hedwig, that owl, bless that owl. She's a hero too. She saves Harry.
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And then I have book covers for like different magical books. And I forgot to say too,
we send, if we like have parties, we'll send a Hogwarts letter. Like it's like legit typed up
and like how they have it in the book with the color ink on like parchment paper.
And then we seal it with like a wax Hogwarts crest with it. So it's like legit with a ticket.
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Rent some owls and yeah, we have them deliver.
Yeah. We have them deliver.
We do that.
We get a little owl poop on it. That's all we do really. Just kidding.
Yeah.
We got a pet bird.
We could do it now. That's true.
We do have a pet bird who's a cockatiel and her name is Hedwig by the way. So yeah,
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but yeah, that's something else. And oh, I forgot to mention too, we,
at one point when we had a party with young women, with some teenage girls,
I had provided PVC pipe and the materials, the hula hoops, and they made a Quidditch game
out of it that we played. Did you have fun, Caleb?
That was fun. Yeah.
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That was so fun. And we rode, we each brought like a broomstick and we rode it like wow.
We ran it around.
Yeah.
And it was a lot of fun. After a while that's like, oh, that's not cool. How do they do that?
Yeah.
We'll have seats or anything. Cushions? No.
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But yeah, so that's what we've done for our parties and stuff.
Yeah. Super creative, man. Really. I went back and I listened to the first episode we did
just a couple hours ago and just going back and listening to everything that you've done
for all these parties, Cathy, is nothing short of amazing.
Yeah. So they're so good. Seriously, she does such a nice job.
Yeah, man. I did have a side question though, because you talked about the sorting hat. So
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apart from delivering the sort of Gryffindor, the sorting hat works for maybe 30 minutes a year.
Like what else is it doing? Like it just sits there collecting dust.
Good point. Just a thought. Just a thought.
I was going to add this because Games is mentioned on there. I didn't mention it in the last podcast
and I regretted it, but now I'm going to mention it again. But another Harry Potter game that I
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love to play was Harry Potter Lego. Like the Wii U game.
Yes.
Which I think those are the ones you could play it on. The app, like, oh my gosh, that game is so
fun and it's funny. And yeah, they got it nailed down. It comes to the plot.
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Oh, I love that game. So fun.
Nice. Yeah, thanks. Oh man, our parties are so fun and we need to do another one sometime and
have the whole fat dumb and happy crew. Yeah, it'll be a good time. Heck yeah.
All right, Ben, why don't you close us out with some thoughts around the psychology of the movie
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in the series?
Oh yeah.
Sure. So throughout the whole movie, and I've talked about this in the previous ones,
and a lot of these thoughts, obviously, I gotta give a shout out to the Psychology Today article
that gave, you know, outlined some of these ideas too, but there's so much in there about resiliency.
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You know, I mean, it starts off having gone through trauma, and then how does he make it, you know?
And in the Half-Blood Prince, one of the things that is a key component, I guess, is the pensive
memories. And it really shows how we can learn from our own mistakes and the mistakes of others.
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You know, it's a learning from the past really helps us to better survive in the present.
And that's a, you know, a major thing in psychology as far as resiliency. Like, if you want to learn,
if you want to survive what you've been through, you have to learn from it. You can't just bottle
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it up and bury it, because it comes back to haunt you otherwise, you know? And so, being able to
face the past and learn from it and move forward is what really helps you be successful after going
through hard things. And then in Deathly Hollows, I think there's a big theme there of faith, you
know? Harry has to put his faith in all that Albus Dumbledore kind of like laid out for him.
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Dumbledore did so much for him, and he put a lot of trust in him, but then he learns more that
Dumbledore was a flawed person too, you know? He's not perfect, but is he going to put some
trust and some faith in someone that knows more than him? And so many studies have shown that
having faith in God or, you know, some higher power can be so powerful in helping people
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overcome challenges, when they can acknowledge the pain that they've been through, but also
acknowledge that there's something greater than themselves that has influence in their lives,
you know? And that that faith is really something that can be so powerful in helping us get through
hard things. And then the series as a whole just starts and ends with love. He survives because of
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his mother's love, and he helps everyone else survive because he cares about them. And he's
willing to make sacrifices and show love for them as well. And love has such a powerful psychological
effect for us to be able to do the impossible, you know? When we talk about that mama bear, right?
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That wants to protect their kids. Like, that's a real thing that gives us a power beyond what we
normally would be able to accomplish. And I just find that just, you know, there's so much to learn
from that, you know? Where, you know, if we have something to live for, like Kathy was saying
earlier, if we have something to live for, as opposed to like something just as a contrast,
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you know, you have Voldemort, who really doesn't have a purpose other than to lash out and like
cause consequences to others, you know? Like, when you have someone that you care about, or
like a reason to live, then you find strength. You would never find it any other way, really.
And I don't know, that's just, those are the things that stood out to me. It is inspiring
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sometimes to see characters that exhibit that. But, you know, you meet people in real life and
that's, you know, just as powerful, more so really. You know, when you see people in real life who
day after day just put others before themselves and, you know, make sacrifices because they care,
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because they really, you know, there's that real love there. And, you know, that's what helps all
of us through hard times. Yeah, Ben, I always love it when you share thoughts, you know,
around psychology, around the reason behind things and helps our fat, dumb and happy crew be
a little less dumb and a little more happy. So appreciate it, man. It's awesome.
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We learn from that for sure. I love that too, when you share the psychology of things.
Yeah. Is it okay if I add something about something that we like tonight, we were watching
the movie, the last one, and it was on a DVD. They're showing a trailer so you can buy the
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series, you know, and I was like, oh my gosh, they didn't have this in the movie. What? And I was
like, you guys, you guys watch this because it's not in the movie, but there's this, they show like
this scene and Voldemort, he's got Harry is like squeezing his cheeks, you know, like his face.
And he's like whispering malicious. And so Voldemort asked Harry, why do you live? And Harry says,
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because I have something worth living for. And that's okay. But you know, just like what Ben
was saying, I have a purpose, I have something to live for and you don't, you know. And anyways,
so just a little fact, but also to just, yeah, to add to what you said, Ben, which was so good.
Love it. Thank you. Yeah, that's awesome. Very famous psychologist, Victor Frankl is, you know,
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really known for that. He survived living in a concentration camp and, you know, saw the people
that really lived had found meaning, you know, had found a reason to live, you know. And once they
lost that, they, the conditions of those concentration camps just destroyed people, except
for those that really had had that in their life. Yeah. Thanks for sharing that. Yeah. Thanks, Ben.
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Love it. Love it. All right. Well, I don't want it to end, but I guess that's, that's what it is.
You know, we get to the end of these books and these movies and series. And just want to thank
everybody. Thanks everyone at home for listening. Thanks to John and Ben for being my bro hosts.
You guys are awesome. And a special, special thanks to our extra special guests, Kathy and Kayla.
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Hey, welcome back. We hope you enjoy listening to part two of this episode.
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All right, let's get back to it with the rest of Deathly Hallows part one. Over to you, Kayla.
All right, next we'll go with favorite quotes. How about you start first, Ed?
All right. For me, it's the end with Dobby when he says...
Such a beautiful place to be with them.
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And, you know, being on this podcast with my favorite people in the world, I feel I can feel you, Dobby.
It's a good place to be with friends and family. And yeah, I just like that. So I like that quote.
Nice. Good stuff, Dobby.
Yeah.
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All right, John, you go. I'm going to stick with Dobby just because of the role he played throughout all of the movies.
His last words were Harry Potter, which also happened to be his first words. I know I mentioned that in the first episode, but just some nice little book enclosure there.
That's my favorite quote and Deathly Hallows.
Nice. Nice.
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All right, Ben, your turn.
So on Belletrix, Lestrange says...
Stupid elf! You could have killed me!
Dobby never meant to kill. Dobby only meant to maim or seriously injure.
I love it.
Yeah, that's a good one.
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Last but not least, Mom, you go.
So Ron is he just provides a lot of comedy and I love when he's taking the apologies question. He's playing this other part, you know, this man.
But the woman who's supposed to be like his wife, she's like, oh, it's Harry Potter. And he's like, yeah, it is, isn't it?
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Must be one to tell the kids and as like the mentors are like chasing them.
And then so this woman, her name is Mary, she thinks it's her husband. It's Ron, though, and she kisses him and he shrinks, you know, and her husband sees it and she's like mortified.
And then Ron turns into himself and then he says, Long story. Nice meeting you.
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Long story. Nice meeting you.
He's like, run away.
Nice meeting you.
It's just so funny that scene.
Those quotes, like just funny to me. And then after like they destroy, it's an intent Ron destroys this Horcrux. It's intense for him. Right.
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And they're both just exhausted and they're sitting down and then he's like, just just think only three to go.
You know, it's loving. So those are the funny ones, but I really did love Dobby's whole quotes too around around that too.
Yeah. Good ones.
What about you, Kayla?
All right. For mine, I thought it was kind of funny, but as soon as everyone's back from getting Harry safely to the burrow, George gets attacked by one of the Death Ears. You know, his ear is, I think it's ripped off or something. I can't remember.
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Yeah.
How are you feeling, Georgie?
Sight-like.
Come again?
Sight-like. I'm holy. I'm holy, Fred. Get it?
The whole wide world of ear-related humor and you go for, I'm holy. It's pathetic.
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I reckon I'm still better looking than you.
Yeah.
Just to tag onto that though, I like how the next morning, he sneaks into the kitchen when Jimmy and Harry Potter are kissing or whatever and he's like, morning.
He's got a toothbrush coming out of his ear.
Yeah.
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It's awesome.
All right. Next we'll go for differences between the book and the movie. Ben, would you mind leading us off?
Sure. So Flora invites Victor Crumb to her wedding in the book and he and Hermione are thrilled to see one another, but Ron jealously escorts her away to the dance floor.
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Crumb is also angered by seeing Luna's dad wearing the Deathly Hallows symbol.
Crumb only knows it as Grindelwald's symbol, which infuriates him because Grindelwald murdered his grandfather.
Man, maybe there's a lot to these books that I should know about.
Before we continue, I'm just going to, Dave, this is where I'm going to chime in.
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Where I had to text Dave this week, guys, because I realized, I can't believe this, for the very first time from a movie watcher, I never understood until this last watch that that was Flora de la Cora from The Goblet of Fire.
I never realized that. And then this week I'm like, holy cow.
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That's crazy, the book part where you just read Ben, that's crazy.
I even told Dave, they weren't even happy to see each other. What the heck?
And then with her inviting Crumb, that just makes more sense. And maybe I could have gathered it from that.
But yeah, I don't know why it never dawned on me that that was Flora de la Cora.
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Also, the other thing I told Dave was she really drops the French accent.
Where did it go in the movie between Goblet of Fire and now? It's not there.
That's true. If she had the French accent in Deathly Hallows Part 1, I would have picked up on it a lot sooner, but it's just not there.
That's fair. That's fair. Sorry, Ben. Sorry about that. Take it away, man.
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No problem. So in the book, Lupin actually tries to join Harry, Hermione and Ron to find the Horcruxes.
But Harry realizes that he's just trying to run away from Tonks, who's pregnant with his child.
And he's anxious about the child becoming a werewolf like him. And he just is trying to run away from his problems.
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And so Harry calls him out on it and calls him a coward for trying to leave his pregnant wife and only later does Lupin really realize that Harry's right.
I see why they left that out of the movie, though. Yeah.
That's a lot of... That's heavy.
That's heavy. Another one is, well, and John will love this, that Harry and Hermione don't dance in the tent. It's just not part of the movie.
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And so the Snatchers, the leader of the Snatchers in the movie is named Scabiorg.
In the book, this character actually has a smaller role as part of Fenrir Greyback's gang. You don't see that after he helps capture them and brings them to Malfoy Manor.
The last thing you see of him is getting choked out by Bellatrix Lestrange, right?
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Yeah, but in the movie, he kind of leads the charge of the gang in the second one, too. You see him again.
That's right. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's true.
In the book, Wormtail comes down to the cellar to see what is commotion and Harry and Ron ambush him.
Wormtail begins to choke Harry, but Harry reminds him that he owes Harry a life debt.
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Wormtail hesitates a moment and his fleeting mercy causes his silver hand to strangle himself.
Dang. I see where that was left out, too.
Yeah. All right. Here's a fun question.
Where would you hide your Horcrux and what could destroy it?
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Nice. First with mom. What would you pick?
Okay. So first of all, I wouldn't make a Horcrux, but if I was evil, I guess. Yeah.
Let's say. Right. Right. It would be a mascara tube and it would be hidden in a landfill.
And the way to destroy it is you'd have to put the mascara on.
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You'd have to apply it to your eyelashes and then you would have to take the mascara wand and you'd have to poke your eyes with it.
Oh, good one.
That's not that stinky landfill.
I'll let you live forever. That's fine. Yeah.
We're not going to kill that one. Good one. Good one.
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Harsh. All right, Ben, how do you go next?
So I would just like put it down a toilet or a porta potty.
Gross. Yeah.
And as far as destroying it, it goes back to just what I've said in an earlier podcast.
I hate tuna fish, so smother it with tuna.
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Nice.
All right, dad, how about you go next?
All right. I was trying to think what would be like the most random, weird, hard place to find it.
And so I decided Wormtail's pinky bone, the thing he lost when he got like, you know, the thigh got exploded or whatever.
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And he just lost his finger. That's all I found.
So who's going to mess with like Wormtail's pinky bone?
And to destroy it, you have to eat it.
Ew.
Who's going to do that either, right?
I mean, Double Door had to drink a lot of crazy water, but eat a pinky bone? That's disgusting.
Okay, gross.
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All right, John, you're next.
You can't destroy what you can't find.
So my Horcrux is going into my invisibility cloak that my new best friend post-Hogwarts battle gave to me.
So yeah, so Harry gave me the invisibility cloak after all that, because he already destroyed the wand.
He didn't want that. So he doesn't need all three of the dead gallows anymore.
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So he gave me the invisibility cloak.
That's where I'm putting my Horcrux.
Nice.
So yeah, good luck finding that one, suckers.
What about you, Kayla?
All right, for mine, I kind of had the idea of using my wand as a Horcrux.
I'd kind of be like the final boss battle.
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You first, and then you can get my wand.
And then to destroy the wand, you'd have to use the three unforgivable purses on it.
So what if somebody wins your wand in a battle?
They still have to destroy it.
Yeah, like that's how you get the Horcruxes, just by defeating me in a duel.
Nice, good answer. I like it.
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I like it.
I hope you win.
But we're not evil.
We're not evil, yeah.
None of us are making Horcruxes, of course.
I mean, yeah, no, of course. No, that's just where I told you I put that one.
I'm not going to tell you about the other one.
John, you want to share your thoughts on this one?
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Okay, so here's just real quick, a couple of big thoughts I had on Deathly Hallows Part 1.
So it would have been really cool if we did this for each of the movies, but just something I happened to scroll through real quick.
The budget for this movie was $125 million.
Guess how long it took them to make that money back?
I don't know.
A month.
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Opening weekend.
Oh, dang.
Opening weekend, and then on top of that, they made back another $17,000.
Just that weekend.
Just opening weekend.
Dang.
Yeah, things like that fascinate me, but if we had done that for each one, that would be cool, but I just happened to come across that.
And then overall, they were short $40 million on Deathly Hallows Part 1 of making a billion dollars.
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Holy cow.
Wow.
Globally, globally.
Oh, dang.
God, oh man.
A lot of cash.
All right, so I loved in this movie this sense, and I think Caleb and I talked about this when she was talking about the fear, but I loved the sense of the impending doom shown throughout the beginning of the movie.
Like when Hermione obliviates her parents, and Ron's just kind of staring out into the field, right?
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I just thought that was done really well for the buildup starting this movie.
Okay, so Dave and I have talked about this previously through text, but how in the world did Hermione's parents answer the question from their friends about how Hermione is doing?
So she obliviates her parents, not her parents' friends. She only obliviates her parents.
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So to her friends, they're all at a dentist party, right?
Dentist party.
They're all hanging out at the dentist's rave, and they're like, yo, how's Hermione? They're like, who?
That would drive me like literally insane that people kept talking about this daughter I'm supposed to have.
But she got rid of my memory of her, and so I got no clue who they're talking about. I think that would just drive me insane. I really did.
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Oh yeah, no, that's crazy.
I've never saw that.
Yeah, don't watch movies with me. I think of the weirdest stuff.
So it's funny because when I started watching this movie, I told you, you know, they've got these movies on HBO Max for those that have that.
It was also on Peacock, and I started watching it in August, and in August I was up in Colorado. And between August, when I started watching the Deathly Hallows Part 1 and September, they took it off Peacock.
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I still got HBO, and I still have the movies on DVD, obviously, but like I said, you know, Peacock will show you the deleted scenes while you're watching the movie.
So it doesn't give you the options to just add the deleted scenes or hey, you know, click here if you want to watch a quick deleted scene. It just plays them throughout.
It does it.
And there was a deleted scene at the very beginning between Petunia Dursley and Harry Potter. And I'm not going to do voices because I don't want to do y'all wrong over there because y'all listen to us.
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Harry finds Aunt Petunia, she's standing alone in the living room, just kind of looking at the house, and Petunia says,
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You didn't just lose a mother that night in Godric's horror, you know.
I lost a sister.
And then pauses for another second, looks at him and leaves.
And the scene itself was actually really well done. And they could have totally left it in there. Not all of the scenes that they deleted scenes they put in there are great. There's been some really atrocious ones.
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I like the Hogwarts school song and stuff but that one, they should have left that in there. I thought that would have been really good.
Yeah.
Those are my thoughts on Deathly Hallows part one guys.
Thanks, John. Good stuff. Good stuff.
All right, headed into the next part, Deathly Hallows part two.
Yeah.
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Yeah.
Let's start with the themes.
All right. What did you guys think of? What were the themes for this movie?
Let's start with Dave.
All right. You know, there's a lot of sacrifice, right? Giving it oneself for the greater good, especially when Voldemort is calling out to the school saying turnover Harry and people don't, you know, like the Slytherins are about to and McGonagall kicks them all out basically.
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And then Harry's like, All right, I'm gonna do this and he faces Voldemort and his fear, you know, for everyone. And I just I love that.
Mm hmm. Yes. Good. Thanks, Dave. Ben, what do you think some themes are?
Oh, as far as themes, you know, I struggle with this. And what I put down here was maybe who you are now trumps whatever you may have been.
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I can see that because like Dumbledore, they have that theme of, you know, there's this book, apparently, of like, tell all about Dumbledore or kind of questioning Harry Aberforth.
Like, did you really know him and the witches and wizards? Like, didn't you know him, Harry? You know, and he kind of had a past.
Yeah.
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And he was younger to get power, sort of, you know, like he was in with Grindelwald and trying to just become a powerful wizard and and then his sister dies and all that.
But he changes in the end.
Yeah.
You talk about like the arches and all the characters too, you know, like they can change.
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Yeah, I feel like in the series as a whole, you see how, like you say, these character arcs where people change and it's like, okay, now's the time to step up.
Forget about past mistakes or what might have happened or whatever and just be your best self now, you know.
I think that's really good, Ben. Thanks for sharing that.
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Kayla, what about you? I think for this one, I thought of courage and determination. I mean, I feel like everyone had an end goal and courage just to get it done, you know.
McGonagall protecting all the students and everyone inside of Hogwarts and Harry going in in the end to die because he needs to, because he's a horror book.
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So anyway, yeah, just, yeah, everyone just trying to fight and be brave for the future.
Everyone except for Lucy's Mouth Boy.
Not very courageous.
That's true.
So for me, I felt like a theme for like Harry was that acceptance piece because, and I think back to like the grieving cycle and like one of the stages of grief is acceptance.
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And then maybe you don't necessarily agree with it or like you didn't want whatever happened.
But Harry, he gets to this point of he just is accepting, yeah, I don't really want to die, but I'm willing to do that. Like he's submitting to that.
I just felt like that over the movie, just that acceptance of, okay, yep, I'm going to die.
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Like I have to give my life. I'm going to give it.
And then the themes of life and death, I felt like throughout the movie, just what that means, you know, like fighting for your family, for your friends.
What's your purpose for fighting, you know, and connection and loyalty.
There's a theme of just fighting for your life, I guess, you know, a lot of death.
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So it's just like, what are you fighting for? You know, kind of a thing.
It's good stuff. Good answers, Kathy.
Oh, thanks. Well, thanks, you guys. Those are good. Thanks for sharing.
Okay, so next, your favorite heroes and why, Ben, would you go first?
I just love Harry just ends on such a good note as far as you were saying, like accepting what has to happen and embracing the love that he has for everyone else.
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Like he's doing this in part because he cares about everyone else. Like this is going to affect not just himself.
And I just feel like he was really strong in this one.
Yeah, he never wanted the glory, right? Ever. So he did it out of love. It's awesome.
Yeah, good thoughts on Harry. Yes, he's a hero. Dave, how about you?
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I chose McGonagall for this one. There's a lot of heroes. Obviously, Harry is a big one, but McGonagall because, you know, she stands up and kind of takes over the school and gets Snape out of there.
And, you know, calls down the gargoyles and does these like awesome spells and tough stuff. And I don't know. She's a great actress, too.
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I think it's really fun to see her. She's older, you know, and she's like, no, we're going to do this and kind of leads the charge for the battle. So McGonagall is pretty awesome.
Yeah, I almost forgot that she wasn't in Deathly Hallows Part 1. Yeah. The only one she's not in. Is it the only one she's not in? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. McG.
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She's awesome. Did you know too, and this is a fact that she at one point was battling cancer and still filming. Oh, dang. I feel like I remember that now you say that. But yeah.
Yeah. So I'm not sure I can't remember which movie it was, but she would still come and do her thing. She's amazing. Yeah, she's awesome. Doesn't she have the title of Dame or whatever?
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Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Take my waist.
What?
She's awesome. I love it. Love her. All right, John, what about you?
Okay, so I think you guys are wrong, and I think the hero is the dragon at Green Guts.
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Yeah, it's Harry. Harry's definitely the ultimate hero because he kills Baltimore. I give honorable mention, even though he's the turns into the headmaster and the bad guy but for playing his role as he should have played it perfectly between what he and Dumbledore discussed.
For sure. Yeah. John, I love how you always have to get the right answer for like the best and the worst. It's not like your choice. This is the best and the right one.
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That's awesome.
Dragon there. He did help save them. Yeah, he's a hero too.
I have a couple of thoughts on this movie. I'm going to mention him again in just a moment. Go ahead. Cool. Cool. Cool. Cool. Cool. So for me, I was all over the place but Neville, I love seeing how he has so much confidence in this movie.
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And he's got a good heart. He always has, you know, but just that he's got this confidence
and just the spirit of like, he's going to do us right, you know, but just like helping
blow up the bridge and the courage that it took to stand up to Voldemort and like being
true Giffen Dorn and getting the sword and saving people that way, like the Horcrux of
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Nagini, you know, and then just not giving in, especially like with Voldemort, when it
looked like Voldemort had won, you know, that he was like, no, I'm not going to stand down.
It doesn't matter that Harry's gone. Stand down, Neville. People die every day. Friends,
family. Yeah. We lost Harry tonight. He's still with us. And here, he's still with us.
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So has Fred. Remus. Tunks. All of them. They didn't die in vain. But you will. Because
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you're wrong. Harry's heart did beat for us. For all of us. So love Neville for that. It's
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interesting because you know what you just said, Neville goes from standing up to his
friends and then at the end, standing up with his friends or for his friends. So yeah, yeah.
Good call. He's got a lot of courage. Yeah. And you practice. Practice standing up, you
know, having a voice and having courage. Yeah. I mean, once you stand up to your friends,
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obviously you can stand up to Voldemort. I mean, yeah. I mean, how much harder can that
be? It's hard. Yeah. If Dumbledore was around, he'd give him five points for cutting off
in a genie's head. Like, come on Dumbledore. Give Neville some love. Yeah, come on man.
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And then of course Harry, we were talking about Harry destroying all the Horcruxes,
submitting himself to die, destroying Voldemort and then Ron and Hermione just relentlessly
helping him and Snape. Yeah. We were saying before, just all that time playing the part
of the villain, protecting Harry, risking his life each day, helping Dumbledore, telling
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Harry at the right time, that part of that Voldemort was in Harry and just being the
ultimate double spy. Yeah. Good call. So awesome. All right. Thanks guys. Those are awesome.
There's a lot of good heroes in this movie. Let's do our favorite or these favorite villains
and why. Kayla, would you like to go first? Okay. Yeah. So obviously my favorite is Snape.
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I mean, I don't know at this point if he was just a villain or hero, but he was really
It got very confusing. He was good at playing as a villain. Now I'll say that. Yes. Voldemort
is obviously my least favorite. I mean, he was just so cruel to all his followers. I mean,
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he's frustrated and mad. He killed one of his followers at one point. Tells Lucius that
he sucks pretty much and bids him to do his will and stuff. And then kills Snape, but
he didn't. The most cruel thing to do. Telling his snake to kill him and like, I didn't want
to see it. You could still see it, but I didn't want to see it. So yeah. The way that you
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said that though, Snape is your favorite villain because he played his role right against Voldemort
being the least favorite. I think that's exactly right. That's the way to say that. I think
that's definitely the right call. Yeah. That's awesome. Thanks, Kayla. Yeah. All right, John,
what about you? I'm going to go with Tom Marvolo Riddle. I mean, like this is the final movie.
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He had to be the villain. He's got to be that guy. I love how once Harry's like, you know what?
We're going to do this. This is it. You and me. And how I just think it's so disrespectful. He
just calls him Tom. He's like, all right, Tom, let's go. Come on, Tom. Let's finish this the way
we started.
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Yeah. It's one of my favorite parts of the whole final battle. He's like, all right, Tom, you and
me, let's do it. But yeah, I think obviously Voldemort is the worst. The guy is just terrible.
Yeah, sure. This movie, John. Can't have this movie without him. So yeah. All right, Ben,
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what about you? Yeah, I went with Voldemort as well, although in my head, I still keep thinking
of him as Tommy Boy. All right, Tommy Boy. Tommy Boy. Tommy want Horcrux.
It's just so disrespectful, man. I love it. Yeah. He's the mastermind behind all of this. And he's
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been the villain throughout. So he's got to have that on stand out at the end here. Yeah. I forgot
to mention this about Voldemort. It's super small, but I like how he exclaims in this movie, too.
When he's shouting spells and just how he laughs in the movie is really funny, too. Yeah. That was
funny.
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Yeah.
Yes. We like to laugh. Yeah. The noises and things. Yeah. Yeah. It makes his non-nose less scary.
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Yeah. Yeah. All right, Dave, what about you? Yeah, I don't have anything more to add. You
guys picked the best ones. Voldemort for sure is terrible. And Snape is an awesome double agent,
but you know, you're also at the beginning, you're angry at him too, because he's, you know, he's
taking over the school and lies out of there. And anyway, so yeah, he's sitting there at the
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top of the school, watching everybody walking or whatever. Yeah, exactly. It's great. Yeah.
Yeah. Those are good thoughts. So for me, I, yeah, Voldemort, he's the worst, you know,
and all of this, and willing to kill like so many and just, oh, he said something I don't like,
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about a good dad, you know, like, what? You know, like, oh my gosh, just, he's just evil. And,
and like Caleb was saying, the way he like just shames Lucius and Ahoy, like, how can you deliver
yourself? Like, dude, and like killing Snape and like, he just has no respect for life. Like,
he just doesn't, you know, he just doesn't respect life and people are, so he's evil.
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And then Bellatrix is his little evil sidekick, of course, and she's mocking and killing and just
terrible. Yeah. You're right though. I mean, it looks like he wants to kill all these people
just so he can stay alive. Like that's the end game is just so he can live. Yeah. Like what's his
plan after that? Like, I know he wants to keep everybody pure blood and all that, but like,
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what's it gonna start another school? I mean, he's not doing this to really do it. He just wants to
stay alive. Yeah. Selfish. Kill all these people. Yeah. All right. Thanks everybody. So our favorite
scenes. Dave, would you like to go first this time? Yeah, my favorite scene is Neville stepping out.
We kind of talked about it already, but his little speech standing up to Voldemort, you know, he
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thinks everyone thinks that Harry's dead. And so that was kind of their really last hope thinking,
and that's who they were trying to protect and everything else. And he's like, you know what,
I don't even care. I'm gonna stand up to him and, and still fight. And then Harry's reveal. I just,
that whole scene, just that part of it is like my favorite. I hate how Jenny's like, who's he
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holding? Who's he holding? Who's holding? Like who else is it gonna be? Yeah. Okay.
Yeah. Just shocked. Like, can it really be? Yeah. Yeah. And that part too, Dave, I love like, we,
we just like watched that tonight, the kids and I, and I love that scene too, cause Voldemort's face,
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like he does, the actor does such a good job and like everyone freaking out and he's like,
that's the best. It's like, oh, yeah. I like how Voldemort barely even took like hold his wand.
He's like, yeah, yeah. It's like hanging on by pinky. That's like, yeah, he's pouring a drink
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or something. Yeah. I like to that, like Neville is, he's beat up, you know, he's limping. He's
like bloody and he's just like, nah, you know, even in this condition, I'm gonna keep fighting. So
it's awesome. Yeah. I love that. So one of my favorite scenes too, that's hilarious is when
Draco goes to Voldemort and Voldemort gives him that super awkward hug. You guys know what I'm
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talking about? Yeah. And he just kind of like leans in there and he like looks so awkward and
he's like, oh, there's like reasons to round weird. It's all like improvise. And that's why like the
actor Tom Felton was like, I don't know what to do. And he's like so frozen and it's just hilarious.
I love that scene. I love it too, that he didn't know. Yeah. Good scene, Dave. Okay, Ben, would
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you like to go next? I love the scene of the escape from Green Gods. Yeah. It's just intense,
you know, and you can really get into it and I don't know, it's just fun. Oh yeah. Yeah, the
Green Gods bank is, it is intense and I love it. And it's crazy. Yeah. That is a good scene, Ben.
Thank you. The ride is good too. Oh yes. The ride is good too. Yes, the ride is good. Yes. Awesome.
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I'm gonna put a plug in. Yes. Kayla, what about you? What was your favorite scene?
I think I liked the conversation with Harry and Dumbledore. I mean, I liked the scene of King's
Cross, but it's clean. Yeah. And just the conversation they have together, kind of like a
loss. All right, what do I do now? And Dumbledore's like, well, that's up to you. And I kind of like
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Harry keeps asking questions too, but Dumbledore's like, I'm trying to leave. All right, I'm gonna go.
You got this. Yeah. Doses. Minus the bloody toddler Voldemort. That thing's gross.
What is that? You can't help it. You can't help it. Just keep moving. Harry, please.
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When they're like, Daring is like, is this all real? Or is it just happening inside my head?
Of course it's happening inside your head, Harry. Why should that mean that it's not real?
John, do you want to go next? Today, play the clip.
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It seems, despite your exhaustive defensive strategies,
you still have a bit of a security problem, headmaster.
I'm afraid it's quite extensive. How dare you stand where he stood?
Tell them how it happened that night. Tell them how you looked him in the eye.
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A man who trusted you and killed him. Tell them.
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That is a good scene. I love it. That's goosebumps, man. How dare you stand where he stood?
And it's almost kind of hard to hear because the glass shatters, but she calls him a coward.
It's so interesting what you learn when you watch with subtitles on.
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I thought forever, Luna was saying, Roina Ravenclaw's lost item. I didn't know what that was.
Oh, it's a diadem. Got it.
Now you get it.
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But it just sounded like item. I was like, okay, you lost an item?
Got it. Of course it's lost. Everybody knows about her lost item. I mean, duh.
I wonder if they don't know.
It's lost. What is it even called? It's just a thing, an item.
That's exactly what I thought.
It was funny, man. How about you, Cathy?
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I love all of these scenes from this, but mine is like when Harry, he learns the truth from Snape's
memories of what he's got to do and he accepts that he must die. And he's got the snitch,
he's holding that and he says, I'm ready to die. And it opens and there's the resurrection stone.
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And I think that's so sweet and so thoughtful that Dumbledore would do that for Harry.
Like that he would entrust Harry with that resurrection stone so that he could feel the
love and support of his family and friends, his friends that were his family. So my favorite quote,
I'll share that later. It goes with this scene, but like, I just love that. And then he just
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drops it too. Like he wants that's done and he's ready. Like he just lets it go.
Like that's all he needs. That's enough. And it's going to be lost, you know? And I just love that
too about that scene.
It's crazy because if the man didn't come read the will, Ron never would have found his way back.
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Hermione wouldn't have understood the Deathly Hallows and he wouldn't have had the resurrection
stone. Yeah. Yeah.
Dumbledore's the hero. He's the man. So thoughtful. And it's just such a sweet scene. I just love it
so much. And not just that, but his vision, because he knew everything was going to happen.
He knew he had to give all that stuff to them. But he's been dead already. You're not even in
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this movie. So it's just like pretty cool.
Yeah. Yeah. Like he planned that. I think it's cool too. All right. What about our favorite
quotes? Let's start with Kayla. Would you like to go first on this one?
Okay. Yeah. This one is a classic. And it's my favorite. We're never going to go having
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a conversation about the explosives. He says, let me get this straight. You're actually giving
us permission to do this. That is correct. Long bottom to blow it up. Boom. Boom. Wicked.
How in the world are we going to do that? Why don't you confer with Mr. Finnegan? As I recall,
he has a particularly pro... I can't say. Proclivity.
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Proclivity for piontechnics. I could bring it down. That's just stupid. Now away you go.
Yes. Love it.
It's so good. It's worth saying twice. I love that part.
Yeah. Ben, would you like to go next? Sure. So that's when Lupin says,
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it is the quality of one's convictions that determine success, not the number of followers.
Then Shacklebolt, right? He's like, who said that? Is that somebody? He's like, I did.
I said that was me. Yeah.
Yep. All right. Good quote, Ben. Thank you. Yeah. Good one.
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All right. John, do you want to go next? One of my favorite quotes in this one is when they
used the apology post at the beginning of the movie. Ben reminded me he does a great job
as Bellatrix Lestrange, but he just gets a dag on Ali and the Death Eater is addressing him. He goes,
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I am Lestrange. Good morning.
Good morning. Good morning. Bellatrix Lestrange, not some dewy-eyed schoolgirl.
I thought that was so funny. She was right. She instantly felt bad,
but the way she said it was so funny to me. Good morning.
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Good morning. Like squeaks it out kind of, yeah.
Yeah. Yeah, man. Bellatrix Lestrange did so good.
That actress playing Hermione, playing her. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
So good. I wish to enter my vault.
Identification.
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Yeah. That's awesome. All right, Dave, what about you?
All right. Mine is from Dumbledore. He says,
Words are in my not so humble opinion, our most inexhaustible source of magic,
capable of both inflicting injury and remedying it.
I like that quote. Me too.
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Wise words about words. Yeah.
All right. That sounds awesome. So for me, Ron's just so funny.
Yeah. So he speaks parcel time to open the chamber of secrets and then he says,
Harry talks in his sleep. Have you noticed? It's like, he's like,
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Have you noticed? I love that.
And then in the flames of the room of requirement, Harry says,
we can't leave them like Draco and his other friend, I guess, they're going to die.
They're on top of all the furniture and it's burning. And Ron says,
he's joking, right? And then Ron says again,
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if we die for them, Harry, I'm going to kill you.
Yeah. Love it.
I love his humor and all of this, you know, these crazy intense scenes. I just love it.
JK Rowling and the Scream Riders. And I just love it.
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So, and then my favorite, and it's so sweet is just that,
C and I talked about with Harry and his family and his friends and his mom says,
You've been so brave, sweetheart.
Why are you here? All of you.
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We never left.
Does it hurt dying quicker than falling asleep?
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You're nearly there, son.
I'm sorry. I never wanted any of you to die for me.
And Remus, your son.
Others will tell him what his mother and father died for.
One day, he'll understand.
You'll stay with me.
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Until the end.
And he won't be able to see you.
No, we're here. You see.
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Stay close to me.
Always.
And then he drops the stone and I just love, I just love that scene that he gets those moments.
Like he just, who wouldn't want that to have those just a moment with their loved ones that
have passed on, especially like your mom and dad that he didn't know to have that courage and
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feel their strength and love and support at the end when he thinks I'm going to die.
And I just think it's really special that the idea, you know, that they were always with him,
which I love, which I was going to point out his mom and dad are definitely both heroes that
they died for him. And if it wasn't for the invisibility cloak from his dad,
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things would definitely be different. And then his mom's protection charm of love,
like being so powerful, more powerful than Voldemort.
Yeah.
I think that deserves mention as well.
Definitely. Okay. That was a long one, did you guys?
No, that was great.
Yeah.
And always, you know, the significance of that word with Lily and with Snape, huh?
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Yeah. Yeah. That is significant. Thanks everybody. All right. So differences between
the book and movie and John is going to take that away for us. Thank you.
Okay. So some of the differences, like so I've been told from this book, so Dumbledore's sister
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Arianna is Hermione's sister, Arianna. The movie doesn't address Dumbledore's sister very much at
all, but she was killed during a fight Dumbledore had with Grindelwald. They talk about that at the
very end just for a snippet, but Dumbledore covers it up and lies about it until he and his brother
finally shed some light on it. So there's more to it in the book. There's a lot of background in that
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story. Yeah. Yeah. And they just barely touch on in the movie, but some of Snape's memories
that don't appear in the film are when Snape and Lily first meet James Potter and Sirius Black
on the Hogwarts Express, where they argue about which Hogwarts house is best. Also Snape apologizes
to Lily for calling her a mudblood, while Lily tells him he's tired of making excuses for him.
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Finally, one of his memories reveals that Petunia wrote to Dumbledore in the hopes that she could
attend Hogwarts, which is interesting because the animosity she has for not being able to be part of
the magic world and everything. Very, very interesting. And Harry in Baltimore's final duel
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in the book, remember now there's a book, Harry and Voldemort are seen circling each other as
the survivors of the battle. Harry shares the truth about the power of love, Snape sacrificed
Annie Elder Wand before using a disarming charm to defeat Voldemort once and for all.
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That's crazy, huh? Yeah. The next one is the fate of the actual Elder Wand. So in the book,
Harry uses the Elder Wand to repair his phoenix feather wand. He also vows to hold on to the Elder
Wand and when he dies, the Elder Wand's power will die with him and the bloodshed surrounding the
legendary weapon will die, will end. Yeah, crazy. So he doesn't just snap in half. So much better
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than snapping it. Yeah. Yeah. Greater use. Yeah, to fix it. What if somebody got it from him?
I think he did the right thing in the movie just to snap it right then and there because he knew
the dangers it held. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe snapping it, they could repair it. I don't know. Look,
so if I have to get rid of a credit card, I'm sitting there snipping through my name and my
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credit card number and everything and I will throw that out in like three different trash cans.
And he just throws both of the little pieces of the wand over the same side of the bridge.
I'm like, what are some of these down there hanging out? Some kids from Hogwarts are like,
yo, let's go ditch class and hang out. And they come across the Elder Wand.
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Just come down like a
little bit. Yeah, exactly. Didn't they just hunt down seven horcruxes or something like that?
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He knows the lengths people will go to to find things that are important, you know? Yeah, exactly.
They are both pieces right together. Yes.
The least he could have done, like I said earlier, he could at least use the Elder Wand to put the
spool back together for crying out loud. Yeah. Ron goes down there and tapes it together, tries
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to do the eat slugs thing and it's like super slugs from the Elder Wand. Eat slugs.
Yeah, because Ron's good at him like, what did you do? He's going after it. For sure.
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All right. Well, awesome. John, did you want to share some other thoughts with us? Yeah,
I'll just be super quick for everybody. So look, end of the movie, we got through all of them.
My thoughts on this movie specifically, though, in the very beginning, Harry Potter stated that he
wanted to bury Dobby without the use of magic. OK, I count the headstone as part of the burial.
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There is no way you're going to convince me on this green earth that they did not use magic to
write the headstone. That handwriting was too perfect. I'm sorry. That was magic.
Maybe Hermione is like, Harry, he needs a headstone. Yeah, I'll use magic. I didn't make that
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promise. Yeah, that's all right. That's a good point, John, for sure. That's a good point.
All right. So second thought was I would like to have seen more of the story and like I know it's
probably in the book. In the movie, I would like to see more of Bill and Floor. And you know,
you all know that I just found out Floor was Floor de la Cour. But Bill has a deleted scene.
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Also, when they're at the beach to where, you know, he's talking to Harry Potter and he says,
you know, look, did you make any kind of deal or arrangement with Grip Hook? And if you did,
you best honor it, because if you don't, Grip Hook will make him pay. And it was just interesting
because, you know, I thought it build a good job when he had that little conversation with him.
I just would like to have seen him more. I thought in fact, I'm wrong. I thought under the
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Polyjuice Potion, I thought we learned in the first movie, the first time they used the Polyjuice
Potion that they were supposed to sound like the people they were imitating. Is that not right?
They had to cop their voices. Remember, they like at first they sounded like each other and they're
like, we got to sound different. They had to sound like Goyle and Crabb, right? Yeah. But they did.
They sounded like them. So why is it in the future uses of the Polyjuice Potion they don't?
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I think they kind of sounded like them. I think they copied them pretty well is what it was. But
what do you guys think? Except for Hermione. Yeah.
Bellatrix sounded exactly like Hermione. That's why I was wondering that for that exact reason,
because Bellatrix is a very well-known witch. You're going to tell me that the goblins at
Gringotts didn't recognize that that wasn't her voice. Yeah, right. Well, that's a little cool.
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Yeah, they did recognize they were. I mean, if he didn't use the imperial curse,
you know, but still like that did not sound like Bellatrix has like a very unique tone and
yeah, accent and everything. So I thought that was a little weird, but you know, maybe I'm wrong.
No, no, you're right. I decided that I'm going to withdraw all of the tens of dollars I have in my
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bank account and use the Gemino curse and just keep touching the money since I'll never win the lottery.
The tens of dollars.
All right. So when the dragon finally makes it out of Gringotts and it's got to sit there a minute to
catch breath, that was literally me last week when I was in Colorado visiting my parents.
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I was in Aurora, Colorado and I was visiting my parents and you know, the altitude was getting
to me. So every time I climbed the set of stairs, I was literally that dragon when he got out of
Gringotts, just sitting there catching breath. It was awful going upstairs. I didn't know how to go
stairs in forever. So one of the head cannons or fan fiction, whatever you want to call it,
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that Professor McGonagall, it wasn't an act of punishment, but an act of kindness that she
threw all Slytherin House in the dungeon. It was so that they didn't have to fight their family.
I have seen that and heard that.
Yeah.
Yeah. And I hadn't thought about it like that until somebody said that. And I was like, you know what?
That's probably a pretty dang good point.
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Yeah.
Yeah.
I like that.
Yeah.
Yeah. So I'm going to believe that to be true that that's really what happened in real life.
In real life in the movie.
Yeah.
Yeah. I love how Voldemort finally destroys when he destroys the protection shield that's over
Hogwarts. And then the Snatchers, they're able to go on the bridge. And then they start chasing Neville
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and Neville, he starts the thing and blows up the bridge. And nobody bothers to help Neville up
when they see his wand come and nobody helps him up.
Yeah, they're just standing there like, we're good.
We're good.
That's two.
There's like ten of them just standing there like, no, it's like, don't grab him.
He's hanging on for dear life. There's no bridge left. Like, come on.
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All right. I also found it interesting that in the Room of Requirement,
Goyle attempts to use a Vada Cadaver on Harry Potter, but Goyle ends up the one who dies in his own
fiery mess. Just thought that was interesting. And last but not least, I thought that in the
final scene, they did a really good job aging Harry, Ginny, Ron, Hermione and Draco. I would
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have liked to have seen Draco and Harry Potter shown at least as amicable in that last scene.
They saved each other's life at least once. And they're both there 20 years later,
or whatever it is, on the platform together. They should at least have given the nod or
something like that, you know?
Yeah. That would have been good.
They saved each other's life at least once. Come on.
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Yeah.
Dave, I've saved your life. How many times behind Tuscan School on that?
Likewise. We give each other nods.
But they did a good job of aging everybody and they all looked old like me.
Yeah. Yeah, it was good.
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But those are just my final little thoughts on the movie.
Good thoughts, man. I like it. I like it a lot.
All right. So, Kathy, do you have any more party treats, games and decorations you want to share
about with these last three movies, the last two books?
Sure. Yeah. So, we've gone over a lot of treats and things, but for decorations, potions is
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definitely like a big thing in movie six, so in book six. So, I have a lot of unpolished
silver trays and platters that I would use to just put stuff on it. And then I would go
occasionally when they were on sale to Hobby Lobby or Michael's and get bottles. They have
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really cool just different shapes and with the corks on top or whatever.
Yeah.
So, I got a bunch of those and I would just fill them. The love potion was I put red dye in it
and our purple and Felix Felicis potion. I use, it was a tinier bottle and I would put corn syrup
or tiny gold glitter pieces in it, mix it up. So, it looked really cool when you moved it around.
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And then Gillyweed, I think at one point I put like lettuce in there, you know, like green water,
like lettuce or herbs or... So, I just, things like that, different potions. Wolf's Bane was black,
I think. Anyways. So awesome. At one party that we had, I did it with my friend and her husband
was chemistry. This is major was chemistry, his job. And so, he did a ton of actual chemistry.
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Potions.
Experiments with us and I couldn't do it, but he had all the ingredients and all the things
and it was legit. Yeah.
We called it wizards.
That was a really cool ad for sure.
And we've done some little sciencey, you know, little science project experiments on,
at our parties too.
That's right. Yeah, we did. Yeah.
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We have all the Horcruxes. So, Tom Riddle's diary that like I tried to get it to look like his too,
you know.
Yep. Drilled it and stuff. Yeah.
Damaging it and stuff and made a clay basculous thing too. And, you know,
was paying too and Marvolo Gantz-Marin, Helga Hufflepuff's cup, Salazar Slytherin's locket,
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the Gryffindor sword. That's interesting. There's no Horcrux for Gryffindor.
But the sword helps kill it all. So anyways, we have this sword Rowena Rodenclaw's diadem.
Item. Yeah.
I don't know where her item is. Yeah.
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It's funny. Yep. And then Nagini, we have like a long stuffed animal Python snake.
I still have that.
Do we have two?
Yeah. You had an extra one and asked if I could have it.
Oh yeah. Okay. All right. That's random.
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And then I would do chocolate coins to put, and I would like reuse them actually. Like just buy
them and then just like spread them out on the trays too. Let's see. I forgot to say this.
For the first one, we have like signs for all the houses, little wall signs that we put up that I
made. And then a sign for like the three broomsticks. And there's also the wanted poster for Harry
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Potter, especially like from the last two of these. Yeah. Yeah. That's right. That's right.
That's right. And then the sorting hat that plays a big role in the last movie book.
Stuffed animal, Hedwig, that owl, bless that owl. She's a hero too. She saves Harry.
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And then I have book covers for like different magical books. And I forgot to say too,
we send, if we like have parties, we'll send a Hogwarts letter. Like it's like legit typed up
and like how they have it in the book with the color ink on like parchment paper.
And then we seal it with like a wax Hogwarts crest with it. So it's like legit with a ticket.
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Rent some owls and yeah, we have them deliver.
Yeah. We have them deliver.
We do that.
We get a little owl poop on it. That's all we do really. Just kidding.
Yeah.
We got a pet bird.
We could do it now. That's true.
We do have a pet bird who's a cockatiel and her name is Hedwig by the way. So yeah,
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but yeah, that's something else. And oh, I forgot to mention too, we,
at one point when we had a party with young women, with some teenage girls,
I had provided PVC pipe and the materials, the hula hoops, and they made a Quidditch game
out of it that we played. Did you have fun, Caleb?
That was fun. Yeah.
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That was so fun. And we rode, we each brought like a broomstick and we rode it like wow.
We ran it around.
Yeah.
And it was a lot of fun. After a while that's like, oh, that's not cool. How do they do that?
Yeah.
We'll have seats or anything. Cushions? No.
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But yeah, so that's what we've done for our parties and stuff.
Yeah. Super creative, man. Really. I went back and I listened to the first episode we did
just a couple hours ago and just going back and listening to everything that you've done
for all these parties, Cathy, is nothing short of amazing.
Yeah. So they're so good. Seriously, she does such a nice job.
Yeah, man. I did have a side question though, because you talked about the sorting hat. So
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apart from delivering the sort of Gryffindor, the sorting hat works for maybe 30 minutes a year.
Like what else is it doing? Like it just sits there collecting dust.
Good point. Just a thought. Just a thought.
I was going to add this because Games is mentioned on there. I didn't mention it in the last podcast
and I regretted it, but now I'm going to mention it again. But another Harry Potter game that I
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love to play was Harry Potter Lego. Like the Wii U game.
Yes.
Which I think those are the ones you could play it on. The app, like, oh my gosh, that game is so
fun and it's funny. And yeah, they got it nailed down. It comes to the plot.
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Oh, I love that game. So fun.
Nice. Yeah, thanks. Oh man, our parties are so fun and we need to do another one sometime and
have the whole fat dumb and happy crew. Yeah, it'll be a good time. Heck yeah.
All right, Ben, why don't you close us out with some thoughts around the psychology of the movie
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in the series?
Oh yeah.
Sure. So throughout the whole movie, and I've talked about this in the previous ones,
and a lot of these thoughts, obviously, I gotta give a shout out to the Psychology Today article
that gave, you know, outlined some of these ideas too, but there's so much in there about resiliency.
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You know, I mean, it starts off having gone through trauma, and then how does he make it, you know?
And in the Half-Blood Prince, one of the things that is a key component, I guess, is the pensive
memories. And it really shows how we can learn from our own mistakes and the mistakes of others.
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You know, it's a learning from the past really helps us to better survive in the present.
And that's a, you know, a major thing in psychology as far as resiliency. Like, if you want to learn,
if you want to survive what you've been through, you have to learn from it. You can't just bottle
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it up and bury it, because it comes back to haunt you otherwise, you know? And so, being able to
face the past and learn from it and move forward is what really helps you be successful after going
through hard things. And then in Deathly Hollows, I think there's a big theme there of faith, you
know? Harry has to put his faith in all that Albus Dumbledore kind of like laid out for him.
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Dumbledore did so much for him, and he put a lot of trust in him, but then he learns more that
Dumbledore was a flawed person too, you know? He's not perfect, but is he going to put some
trust and some faith in someone that knows more than him? And so many studies have shown that
having faith in God or, you know, some higher power can be so powerful in helping people
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overcome challenges, when they can acknowledge the pain that they've been through, but also
acknowledge that there's something greater than themselves that has influence in their lives,
you know? And that that faith is really something that can be so powerful in helping us get through
hard things. And then the series as a whole just starts and ends with love. He survives because of
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his mother's love, and he helps everyone else survive because he cares about them. And he's
willing to make sacrifices and show love for them as well. And love has such a powerful psychological
effect for us to be able to do the impossible, you know? When we talk about that mama bear, right?
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That wants to protect their kids. Like, that's a real thing that gives us a power beyond what we
normally would be able to accomplish. And I just find that just, you know, there's so much to learn
from that, you know? Where, you know, if we have something to live for, like Kathy was saying
earlier, if we have something to live for, as opposed to like something just as a contrast,
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you know, you have Voldemort, who really doesn't have a purpose other than to lash out and like
cause consequences to others, you know? Like, when you have someone that you care about, or
like a reason to live, then you find strength. You would never find it any other way, really.
And I don't know, that's just, those are the things that stood out to me. It is inspiring
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sometimes to see characters that exhibit that. But, you know, you meet people in real life and
that's, you know, just as powerful, more so really. You know, when you see people in real life who
day after day just put others before themselves and, you know, make sacrifices because they care,
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because they really, you know, there's that real love there. And, you know, that's what helps all
of us through hard times. Yeah, Ben, I always love it when you share thoughts, you know,
around psychology, around the reason behind things and helps our fat, dumb and happy crew be
a little less dumb and a little more happy. So appreciate it, man. It's awesome.
(01:05:54):
We learn from that for sure. I love that too, when you share the psychology of things.
Yeah. Is it okay if I add something about something that we like tonight, we were watching
the movie, the last one, and it was on a DVD. They're showing a trailer so you can buy the
(01:06:15):
series, you know, and I was like, oh my gosh, they didn't have this in the movie. What? And I was
like, you guys, you guys watch this because it's not in the movie, but there's this, they show like
this scene and Voldemort, he's got Harry is like squeezing his cheeks, you know, like his face.
And he's like whispering malicious. And so Voldemort asked Harry, why do you live? And Harry says,
(01:06:37):
because I have something worth living for. And that's okay. But you know, just like what Ben
was saying, I have a purpose, I have something to live for and you don't, you know. And anyways,
so just a little fact, but also to just, yeah, to add to what you said, Ben, which was so good.
Love it. Thank you. Yeah, that's awesome. Very famous psychologist, Victor Frankl is, you know,
(01:07:03):
really known for that. He survived living in a concentration camp and, you know, saw the people
that really lived had found meaning, you know, had found a reason to live, you know. And once they
lost that, they, the conditions of those concentration camps just destroyed people, except
for those that really had had that in their life. Yeah. Thanks for sharing that. Yeah. Thanks, Ben.
(01:07:30):
Love it. Love it. All right. Well, I don't want it to end, but I guess that's, that's what it is.
You know, we get to the end of these books and these movies and series. And just want to thank
everybody. Thanks everyone at home for listening. Thanks to John and Ben for being my bro hosts.
You guys are awesome. And a special, special thanks to our extra special guests, Kathy and Kayla.
(01:07:54):
Thank you for joining us. Made the show so much more fun and interesting and just love your guys'
perspective and just, yeah, love you guys. So don't forget folks at home to rate and subscribe,
tell your friends about us and give us five stars. You know, you want to, and remember everybody stay
fat dumb and happy. Bye guys. Bye. Bye. Thanks for having us. Thank you. Yeah.
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