June 4, 2025 • 29 mins
Addiction doesn't discriminate—it can begin in the most unexpected ways, even through legitimate medical treatment. In this powerful conversation, Kelly shares the heartbreaking journey of her son Peyton, whose battle with opioid dependency began after cancer treatment.
At 16, Peyton was diagnosed with Hodgkin's lymphoma. The high-dose steroids used to save his life had devastating side effects, deteriorating his hip bones and requiring a full hip replacement by age 19. The prescription pain medications that followed created a pathway to addiction that eventually led to tragedy when what he thought was a Percocet turned out to contain a lethal dose of fentanyl.
Kelly doesn't hold back as she shares the raw truth about addiction's grip and the desperate struggle for recovery. She speaks candidly about treatment attempts, the challenges of Vivitrol therapy, and the overwhelming statistics facing families: childhood cancer survivors are five times more likely to fill opiate prescriptions, while only 3% of people with addiction disorders fully recover. Most importantly, she challenges us to reframe how we talk about these deaths—not as overdoses, but as poisonings and drug-induced homicides.
This episode shatters misconceptions about addiction and forces us to confront uncomfortable truths about our healthcare system, border security, and the stigma that prevents proper treatment. Kelly's powerful advocacy reminds us that behind every statistic is someone's child who didn't want to die, who had dreams and ambitions cut short by a preventable tragedy. Her message is clear: we must stop the stigma, change our language, and demand better from our systems before more lives are lost. Listen, share, and join the conversation that could save someone you love.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Let's end the stigma of addiction and the placing
blame on the individual andtheir loved ones.
No one is immune in our society.
My next guest is Kelly, whounderstands this fact firsthand.
Kelly is the mother of Peyton.
When Peyton was 16 years old,he was diagnosed with Hodgkin's
(00:27):
lymphoma.
He had extensive treatments andsurgery.
The high doses of steroidsdeteriorated his hip bones.
He suffered with extreme pain.
He would cry to his mama.
At 19 years old he had a fullhip replacement.
He would cry to his mama all Iwant is a normal life.
At 19 years old he had a fullhip replacement and was
(00:51):
prescribed pain medications.
This began Peyton's journeywith an opioid addiction.
Kelly, though very painful,please share with our audience
Peyton's story.
His story is very special andunique as he is as an individual
.
Our audience needs to hear thefacts.
(01:14):
You and I have shared with eachother our stories.
We both feel strongly thattransparency is so important in
addressing the many issues ofaddiction.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
We agree the stigma needs to stop.
Thank you, lisa, for having metoday.
And I cannot agree enough aboutthe stigma needs to stop.
(02:09):
I had no idea his high schoollife going for him and then one
day he has a lump come up on theside of his neck and we go to
the doctor and they startrunning tests and he's diagnosed
with Hodgkin's lymphoma.
By the next week we're at StJude Hospital and he did.
(02:35):
He went through extensivetreatments, you know for a young
boy at 16 years old.
You know he's out of school.
He's, you know he's out ofschool, he's out, you know,
can't play football for hisremaining high school years.
He's, you know, havingchemotherapy and you know, like
(02:56):
I said, the high doses ofprednisone, the surgeries, the
opiates he had to have becauseof pain during the surgeries and
he didn't have a normal life asany other 16 years old.
He didn't want to be thought ofas the child of you know, I'm
(03:16):
the kid with cancer.
At school he would say that alot.
Mom, I don't want to be thoughtof as the kid with cancer, I
just want to live a normal life.
So that causes a lot ofpsychological problems for a
child, which St Jude, does youknow they offer during
(03:39):
treatments because theyunderstand this and they
understand it can causepsychological issues with people
.
A lot of people don'tunderstand that with childhood
cancer, that these children asadults are two to four times
(04:00):
likely to be on antidepressants.
They're two and a half to fivetimes likely to fill a
prescription for opiates.
And you know because of the bigpharma companies that we've had
in the past or how they used tohand out all of the opiates we
(04:21):
don't, they don't give opiates.
So where did the where do thesechildren turn?
They go to the streets andthat's what happened in Peyton's
case and we we saw some signsof by the time he was a year.
(04:44):
After he went through treatmenthe started having the pains in
his hips and then he wasdiagnosed with a vascular
necrosis.
And what that is?
A vascular necrosis is due tothe high doses of steroids.
(05:04):
It deteriorates your hip joints.
It deteriorates any joints inyour body.
Some people have had shoulderreplacements, some people have
had wrist replacements, kneereplacements, ankle replacements
and Peyton's it deterioratedhis hips.
So for two or three years hewas in and out of St Jude after
(05:30):
his treatment for the Hodgkin'slymphoma and he was having
something called coredecompressions and they were
trying to save his hip.
But core decompressions, thisis where they feel your hip
joints in with like a cement.
So he's, he's in all this pain.
They're giving him opiates,they're, they're putting him,
(05:51):
you know, under anesthesia eachtime they're doing these.
Cert, cordy compressions andhis hips were just crumbling and
by the age 19 he's having tohave a full hip replacement.
He couldn't walk, he's limpingand trying to go to school, go
(06:15):
to college and he's in pain.
And when the doctor did his hipreplacement he came in and told
us his hip just crumbled in hishand.
So imagine your joints, youknow you're in so much pain.
You want pain medicine.
You want that to stop that pain.
(06:36):
After he's learning the walkagain.
You know, with his new hip he'slearning to walk again.
You know, with his new hip andhe's.
I remember after he got offsurgery he said that medicine
made him feel good and I didn'tthink anything of it.
I'm just thinking because he'snot in pain anymore.
(06:59):
Of course that made him feelgood.
But what with these opiates?
It changes the brain chemistryand what I've learned now that I
didn't know then, that I wisheven St Jude would have educated
families on is the possibilityof opiate addiction, the
(07:21):
possibility of opiate addiction.
But one in four people areaddicts and that can be the
person you think about that in a, let's just say, at church.
You have a person sitting infront of you, you have a person
sitting beside each side of you,you have a person behind you.
(07:42):
One in four people are addicts.
They have not, may have notgotten that, uh that right drug,
or it could be sex, it could begambling, it could be anything
that forms addiction, but one,four people are addicts and once
(08:06):
they are addicts and theyrecognize that, out of the whole
general population, three, 3%of addicts recover.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Kelly, I so appreciate your honesty and
transparency with this.
That means so much.
Thank you so much.
Your story, Peyton's story, istruly just heartbreaking but
needs to be shared so peoplewill open their hearts, open
(08:41):
their minds and have compassionand understand that quote
unquote addicts are not secondclass citizens Okay, and it's
like they're not.
They should not be looked uponor stigmatized, and thank you
(09:01):
for sharing this.
I understand Peyton was inremission for one year and eight
months and he conquered thischildhood cancer.
Did you ever think in a millionyears childhood cancer, Did you
ever think in a million yearsthat his illness would lead to
this opioid addiction?
(09:21):
That innocent began withprescription drugs and, like you
stated, you wish the doctors orhospital would have told you.
Well, perhaps they didn't knowthemselves back then, I don't
know.
Um, there's so much controversyabout that.
I mean pain medication.
Prescribed pain medication isnecessary, but they do have
(09:42):
strong addictive components tothem and, like you said, one out
of four people have anaddiction and this is probably
the most potent and this isprobably the most potent,
unfortunately, deadly, addictionthat we have and we need to
(10:02):
face.
I want to ask you something Iknow through Peyton's addiction.
Can you lead us into thetreatment that he sought and how
he so desperately did not wantto have this and what he did you
know as an individual toconquer it, what you did as his
(10:22):
mom, and can you elaborate onwhat Suboxone is and the Vivijal
shot is for our audience, sothey will know.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Yes, well, before Peyton passed away, he was
actually seven years cancer free.
Um he February 15th of 2021, hecelebrated seven years of being
(10:50):
cancer free, and probably thelast two years of his life is
when we really saw that he hadan addiction to these opiates.
And when we learned that, youknow he had this addiction to
(11:15):
Percocets, we got him intotreatment immediately.
And that came after a caraccident.
And when we took him there, wedid not even I don't even think
(11:35):
we even realized at that time ofhow this addiction had a hold
on him.
And until he got out of therehab, which he just did a detox
for a couple of weeks, and whenhe came home, he was going
(11:56):
through secondary withdrawals.
And during those secondarywithdrawals I was like wow, we
really have an issue with this.
And I took him, I seeked outtherapy, I seeked out an
(12:17):
addictionologist for him andthey started educating me on
addiction and learned about allthe different plans of needing
(12:42):
to do the 12-step programs andagain, all of those are not
guaranteed because that's the 3%of addicts recover.
And so, one of the things bythat October of that same year,
(13:15):
we went to a long-term addictioncenter in Nashville, tennessee,
and we learned about theVivitrol shot and with that
Vivitrol shot that is an opiateblocker and it blocks the
opiates.
It's just one simple shot oncea month and he would get it
every 28 days and so during thattime it made him so lethargic,
(13:41):
it made it had side effects onhim that he couldn't function.
And like with every drug, everydrug that is administered to
someone, you know, you have thispossibility of side effects and
that he decided he didn't wantto do that.
(14:03):
And it kind of puzzles mesometimes of why we have you're
trying to get off drugs but thenthey give you another drug to
get you off of that.
That's always been a littlepuzzling to me.
But that Vivitrol shot, once itruns out of your system, what I
(14:29):
learned from Peyton and saw isthose cravings came back twice,
two to three times more.
And so February 13th he he gotoff, I'm sorry.
February 9th he came off thatVivitra shot.
(14:51):
He decided because he wanted.
In his mind he thought OK, I'mgood, just like what I compare
it to is if you're takingantibiotics and you think after
you start feeling well, after alittle while you're, you're good
, you know, you stop, you don'ttake your full prescription and
(15:15):
then all of a sudden it comesback.
You know, the virus or thesickness comes back.
Same with this.
Those cravings came back andthey came back with a vengeance.
They came back he, those signsof his addiction.
(15:43):
I could tell something waswrong.
And he, he was back out seekingdrugs and at this time he
didn't get that Percocet that hethought he was going to get.
He got 43 nanograms of fentanyland that fentanyl is what ended
(16:10):
his life.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
I am so sorry, but sorry is not enough.
This country needs to dosomething to combat this.
I was going to ask you how doyou feel about your statement.
You quoted this my son did notoverdose.
He was poisoned 43 nanogramsper milliliter of fentanyl.
(16:33):
He was a victim of adrug-induced homicide.
He should be on this earth.
He did not want to die.
How do you feel?
Speaker 2 (16:47):
about that, kelly, I know, I know.
And that with the stigma andthat's why we say the stigma
needs to stop that my son didnot want to die.
He talked about his dreams andhis admirations.
He loved sports, he loved music, he loved life, music, he loved
(17:24):
life.
You know, he wanted to besomething in this world and he
fought that addiction.
He was ashamed of that.
He did not want to be thoughtof as a drug addict and he's
very ashamed of it.
But he and I were very closeand he talked to me about his
(17:44):
dreams.
He talked about his fears.
He just wanted people to beproud of him and and I know for
a fact that if two is it twomillimeter that can kill a
(18:06):
person Mm-hmm A fentanyl and 43nanograms was in his toxicology
report.
That is murder, that is puremurder, and I know my son did
not want to die.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
I know my son didn't want to die from this either,
and, speaking to all the parentsthat we know across this
country and in the groups thatwe are in, we know for a fact
that our sons and daughters didnot want to die, and these quote
unquote accidental overdosesneed to be treated as homicides
(18:55):
in this country, and I know thatyou feel strongly about that.
Also, kelly, everything thatyou've learned throughout this
what is your hope for, not onlyyourself and your family, but
for every person in our countryright now?
Speaker 2 (19:21):
What do you hope happens?
I hope that a lot of theverbiage can be changed, as you
said, that it's not an overdose,that it is actually a
drug-induced homicide.
I know that I know who soldPeyton the drugs and I know that
(19:41):
since he died, that there hasbeen at least four other people
that has lost their life as well, and that I know for a fact.
And what I would like to see isthat these people are, that
(20:05):
justice is served, these dealersare caught, and that they're
just it's not a slap on thewrist, that it's they have to
serve this time.
And I mean they're just, it'snot a slap on the wrist, that
it's they have to serve thistime.
And I mean they're taking lives.
And that's just a small portionof this.
(20:25):
You know it goes so much deeper, as you know, as, as grieving
mothers, we're having to fight.
You know for it to be a voicefor our, for our children, but,
as everyone else sees and says,that's in part that has lost
(20:49):
their children.
I mean, we know that China isselling it to Mexico and these
borders need to be closed and weneed we need a strong
government behind us torepresent us.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
We do.
We have so many issuessurrounding illicit fentanyl
crisis and travesty hitting oursociety and it's increasingly
getting worse and it's going tountil something is done, and I
(21:29):
just hope our audience reallylistened and learned from
Kelly's transparency.
This is an attribute that shealways taught Peyton.
He could always come to herwithout having judgment.
That's unconditional love.
As you can hear, a substanceuse disorder is a disease.
It's not something that can belogically explained or a failure
(21:54):
on the part of the individualor parents or their loved ones.
Nor is your loved one'saddiction something for which
you must navigate alone, eventhough it does feel that way at
times.
Sometimes, as a parent, you'rebetween a rock and a hard place.
There's a thin line betweenlove and enabling.
(22:17):
Every parent tries to do thebest at their ability to help
their child.
Please try not to quickly judgeor do the blame game.
That helps no one.
Stigma is a fundamentalhindrance to the United States.
Opioid now elicit fentanylcrisis.
(22:40):
Open your hearts and minds andstop the stigma.
Our children are more than alabel attached to them.
Our children's lives matter.
No one wants to be an addict.
Our children's lives matter.
No one wants to be an addict,and I know for damn sure, no one
(23:01):
wants to die as one, especiallyto the illicit fentanyl that is
growing and growing and growingin our country.
Wake up.
Thank you, kelly.
Hold on to your strong faith'snot easy.
There's always hope, and I justwant to say my continued
prayers for you, my friend, mylove for you and your family,
(23:26):
and God bless you.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Thank you so much thank you so much for having me,
lisa.
Let's end the stigma of addiction and the placing
blame on the individual andtheir loved ones.
No one is immune in our society.
My next guest is Kelly, whounderstands this fact firsthand.
Kelly is the mother of Peyton.
When Peyton was 16 years old,he was diagnosed with Hodgkin's
(00:27):
lymphoma.
He had extensive treatments andsurgery.
The high doses of steroidsdeteriorated his hip bones.
He suffered with extreme pain.
He would cry to his mama.
At 19 years old he had a fullhip replacement.
He would cry to his mama all Iwant is a normal life.
At 19 years old he had a fullhip replacement and was
(00:51):
prescribed pain medications.
This began Peyton's journeywith an opioid addiction.
Kelly, though very painful,please share with our audience
Peyton's story.
His story is very special andunique as he is as an individual
.
Our audience needs to hear thefacts.
(01:14):
You and I have shared with eachother our stories.
We both feel strongly thattransparency is so important in
addressing the many issues ofaddiction.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
We agree the stigma needs to stop.
Thank you, lisa, for having metoday.
And I cannot agree enough aboutthe stigma needs to stop.
(02:09):
I had no idea his high schoollife going for him and then one
day he has a lump come up on theside of his neck and we go to
the doctor and they startrunning tests and he's diagnosed
with Hodgkin's lymphoma.
By the next week we're at StJude Hospital and he did.
(02:35):
He went through extensivetreatments, you know for a young
boy at 16 years old.
You know he's out of school.
He's, you know he's out ofschool, he's out, you know,
can't play football for hisremaining high school years.
He's, you know, havingchemotherapy and you know, like
(02:56):
I said, the high doses ofprednisone, the surgeries, the
opiates he had to have becauseof pain during the surgeries and
he didn't have a normal life asany other 16 years old.
He didn't want to be thought ofas the child of you know, I'm
(03:16):
the kid with cancer.
At school he would say that alot.
Mom, I don't want to be thoughtof as the kid with cancer, I
just want to live a normal life.
So that causes a lot ofpsychological problems for a
child, which St Jude, does youknow they offer during
(03:39):
treatments because theyunderstand this and they
understand it can causepsychological issues with people
.
A lot of people don'tunderstand that with childhood
cancer, that these children asadults are two to four times
(04:00):
likely to be on antidepressants.
They're two and a half to fivetimes likely to fill a
prescription for opiates.
And you know because of the bigpharma companies that we've had
in the past or how they used tohand out all of the opiates we
(04:21):
don't, they don't give opiates.
So where did the where do thesechildren turn?
They go to the streets andthat's what happened in Peyton's
case and we we saw some signsof by the time he was a year.
(04:44):
After he went through treatmenthe started having the pains in
his hips and then he wasdiagnosed with a vascular
necrosis.
And what that is?
A vascular necrosis is due tothe high doses of steroids.
(05:04):
It deteriorates your hip joints.
It deteriorates any joints inyour body.
Some people have had shoulderreplacements, some people have
had wrist replacements, kneereplacements, ankle replacements
and Peyton's it deterioratedhis hips.
So for two or three years hewas in and out of St Jude after
(05:30):
his treatment for the Hodgkin'slymphoma and he was having
something called coredecompressions and they were
trying to save his hip.
But core decompressions, thisis where they feel your hip
joints in with like a cement.
So he's, he's in all this pain.
They're giving him opiates,they're, they're putting him,
(05:51):
you know, under anesthesia eachtime they're doing these.
Cert, cordy compressions andhis hips were just crumbling and
by the age 19 he's having tohave a full hip replacement.
He couldn't walk, he's limpingand trying to go to school, go
(06:15):
to college and he's in pain.
And when the doctor did his hipreplacement he came in and told
us his hip just crumbled in hishand.
So imagine your joints, youknow you're in so much pain.
You want pain medicine.
You want that to stop that pain.
(06:36):
After he's learning the walkagain.
You know, with his new hip he'slearning to walk again.
You know, with his new hip andhe's.
I remember after he got offsurgery he said that medicine
made him feel good and I didn'tthink anything of it.
I'm just thinking because he'snot in pain anymore.
(06:59):
Of course that made him feelgood.
But what with these opiates?
It changes the brain chemistryand what I've learned now that I
didn't know then, that I wisheven St Jude would have educated
families on is the possibilityof opiate addiction, the
(07:21):
possibility of opiate addiction.
But one in four people areaddicts and that can be the
person you think about that in a, let's just say, at church.
You have a person sitting infront of you, you have a person
sitting beside each side of you,you have a person behind you.
(07:42):
One in four people are addicts.
They have not, may have notgotten that, uh that right drug,
or it could be sex, it could begambling, it could be anything
that forms addiction, but one,four people are addicts and once
(08:06):
they are addicts and theyrecognize that, out of the whole
general population, three, 3%of addicts recover.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Kelly, I so appreciate your honesty and
transparency with this.
That means so much.
Thank you so much.
Your story, Peyton's story, istruly just heartbreaking but
needs to be shared so peoplewill open their hearts, open
(08:41):
their minds and have compassionand understand that quote
unquote addicts are not secondclass citizens Okay, and it's
like they're not.
They should not be looked uponor stigmatized, and thank you
(09:01):
for sharing this.
I understand Peyton was inremission for one year and eight
months and he conquered thischildhood cancer.
Did you ever think in a millionyears childhood cancer, Did you
ever think in a million yearsthat his illness would lead to
this opioid addiction?
(09:21):
That innocent began withprescription drugs and, like you
stated, you wish the doctors orhospital would have told you.
Well, perhaps they didn't knowthemselves back then, I don't
know.
Um, there's so much controversyabout that.
I mean pain medication.
Prescribed pain medication isnecessary, but they do have
(09:42):
strong addictive components tothem and, like you said, one out
of four people have anaddiction and this is probably
the most potent and this isprobably the most potent,
unfortunately, deadly, addictionthat we have and we need to
(10:02):
face.
I want to ask you something Iknow through Peyton's addiction.
Can you lead us into thetreatment that he sought and how
he so desperately did not wantto have this and what he did you
know as an individual toconquer it, what you did as his
(10:22):
mom, and can you elaborate onwhat Suboxone is and the Vivijal
shot is for our audience, sothey will know.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Yes, well, before Peyton passed away, he was
actually seven years cancer free.
Um he February 15th of 2021, hecelebrated seven years of being
(10:50):
cancer free, and probably thelast two years of his life is
when we really saw that he hadan addiction to these opiates.
And when we learned that, youknow he had this addiction to
(11:15):
Percocets, we got him intotreatment immediately.
And that came after a caraccident.
And when we took him there, wedid not even I don't even think
(11:35):
we even realized at that time ofhow this addiction had a hold
on him.
And until he got out of therehab, which he just did a detox
for a couple of weeks, and whenhe came home, he was going
(11:56):
through secondary withdrawals.
And during those secondarywithdrawals I was like wow, we
really have an issue with this.
And I took him, I seeked outtherapy, I seeked out an
(12:17):
addictionologist for him andthey started educating me on
addiction and learned about allthe different plans of needing
(12:42):
to do the 12-step programs andagain, all of those are not
guaranteed because that's the 3%of addicts recover.
And so, one of the things bythat October of that same year,
(13:15):
we went to a long-term addictioncenter in Nashville, tennessee,
and we learned about theVivitrol shot and with that
Vivitrol shot that is an opiateblocker and it blocks the
opiates.
It's just one simple shot oncea month and he would get it
every 28 days and so during thattime it made him so lethargic,
(13:41):
it made it had side effects onhim that he couldn't function.
And like with every drug, everydrug that is administered to
someone, you know, you have thispossibility of side effects and
that he decided he didn't wantto do that.
(14:03):
And it kind of puzzles mesometimes of why we have you're
trying to get off drugs but thenthey give you another drug to
get you off of that.
That's always been a littlepuzzling to me.
But that Vivitrol shot, once itruns out of your system, what I
(14:29):
learned from Peyton and saw isthose cravings came back twice,
two to three times more.
And so February 13th he he gotoff, I'm sorry.
February 9th he came off thatVivitra shot.
(14:51):
He decided because he wanted.
In his mind he thought OK, I'mgood, just like what I compare
it to is if you're takingantibiotics and you think after
you start feeling well, after alittle while you're, you're good
, you know, you stop, you don'ttake your full prescription and
(15:15):
then all of a sudden it comesback.
You know, the virus or thesickness comes back.
Same with this.
Those cravings came back andthey came back with a vengeance.
They came back he, those signsof his addiction.
(15:43):
I could tell something waswrong.
And he, he was back out seekingdrugs and at this time he
didn't get that Percocet that hethought he was going to get.
He got 43 nanograms of fentanyland that fentanyl is what ended
(16:10):
his life.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
I am so sorry, but sorry is not enough.
This country needs to dosomething to combat this.
I was going to ask you how doyou feel about your statement.
You quoted this my son did notoverdose.
He was poisoned 43 nanogramsper milliliter of fentanyl.
(16:33):
He was a victim of adrug-induced homicide.
He should be on this earth.
He did not want to die.
How do you feel?
Speaker 2 (16:47):
about that, kelly, I know, I know.
And that with the stigma andthat's why we say the stigma
needs to stop that my son didnot want to die.
He talked about his dreams andhis admirations.
He loved sports, he loved music, he loved life, music, he loved
(17:24):
life.
You know, he wanted to besomething in this world and he
fought that addiction.
He was ashamed of that.
He did not want to be thoughtof as a drug addict and he's
very ashamed of it.
But he and I were very closeand he talked to me about his
(17:44):
dreams.
He talked about his fears.
He just wanted people to beproud of him and and I know for
a fact that if two is it twomillimeter that can kill a
(18:06):
person Mm-hmm A fentanyl and 43nanograms was in his toxicology
report.
That is murder, that is puremurder, and I know my son did
not want to die.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
I know my son didn't want to die from this either,
and, speaking to all the parentsthat we know across this
country and in the groups thatwe are in, we know for a fact
that our sons and daughters didnot want to die, and these quote
unquote accidental overdosesneed to be treated as homicides
(18:55):
in this country, and I know thatyou feel strongly about that.
Also, kelly, everything thatyou've learned throughout this
what is your hope for, not onlyyourself and your family, but
for every person in our countryright now?
Speaker 2 (19:21):
What do you hope happens?
I hope that a lot of theverbiage can be changed, as you
said, that it's not an overdose,that it is actually a
drug-induced homicide.
I know that I know who soldPeyton the drugs and I know that
(19:41):
since he died, that there hasbeen at least four other people
that has lost their life as well, and that I know for a fact.
And what I would like to see isthat these people are, that
(20:05):
justice is served, these dealersare caught, and that they're
just it's not a slap on thewrist, that it's they have to
serve this time.
And I mean they're just, it'snot a slap on the wrist, that
it's they have to serve thistime.
And I mean they're taking lives.
And that's just a small portionof this.
(20:25):
You know it goes so much deeper, as you know, as, as grieving
mothers, we're having to fight.
You know for it to be a voicefor our, for our children, but,
as everyone else sees and says,that's in part that has lost
(20:49):
their children.
I mean, we know that China isselling it to Mexico and these
borders need to be closed and weneed we need a strong
government behind us torepresent us.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
We do.
We have so many issuessurrounding illicit fentanyl
crisis and travesty hitting oursociety and it's increasingly
getting worse and it's going tountil something is done, and I
(21:29):
just hope our audience reallylistened and learned from
Kelly's transparency.
This is an attribute that shealways taught Peyton.
He could always come to herwithout having judgment.
That's unconditional love.
As you can hear, a substanceuse disorder is a disease.
It's not something that can belogically explained or a failure
(21:54):
on the part of the individualor parents or their loved ones.
Nor is your loved one'saddiction something for which
you must navigate alone, eventhough it does feel that way at
times.
Sometimes, as a parent, you'rebetween a rock and a hard place.
There's a thin line betweenlove and enabling.
(22:17):
Every parent tries to do thebest at their ability to help
their child.
Please try not to quickly judgeor do the blame game.
That helps no one.
Stigma is a fundamentalhindrance to the United States.
Opioid now elicit fentanylcrisis.
(22:40):
Open your hearts and minds andstop the stigma.
Our children are more than alabel attached to them.
Our children's lives matter.
No one wants to be an addict.
Our children's lives matter.
No one wants to be an addict,and I know for damn sure, no one
(23:01):
wants to die as one, especiallyto the illicit fentanyl that is
growing and growing and growingin our country.
Wake up.
Thank you, kelly.
Hold on to your strong faith'snot easy.
There's always hope, and I justwant to say my continued
prayers for you, my friend, mylove for you and your family,
(23:26):
and God bless you.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Thank you so much thank you so much for having me,
lisa.
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