June 16, 2025 • 19 mins
This episode is for the dad who feels like he's drowning but doesn’t know where to turn.In the middle of Men’s Mental Health Month, Alec and DJ are keeping it real with a shorter but powerful episode—packed with resources, tools, and truth for dads who are struggling with anxiety, stress, depression, ADHD, or just the weight of fatherhood.💥 What You’ll Get in This Episode:Free & paid men's groups that actually helpAffordable therapy options (including sliding scale and student therapists)Recommended apps and podcasts for mental healthReal talk about why asking for help is strength, not weaknessWhy taking care of yourself is one of the most powerful ways to lead your family📌 Resources Mentioned:💬 Rooted in Brotherhood (Free Facebook Community) → [Join Here]🎧 The Dad Edge Alliance – Larry Hagner🔥 Men of Fire Program – Chris Rodak (Rising Father)🧠 BetterHelp – Text or call with licensed counselors🧍♂️ Local universities with student therapists (sliding scale)📱 Apps: Mental, Moodnotes, Headspace, UberMind🎙️ Podcasts: Suicide Noted, Get Real, Dad Bods and Beards👥 This community was built because we needed it first. Now it’s here for you.👇 COMMENT if you need help getting plugged in—we’ll personally respond.📲 DOWNLOAD the episode. SHARE it with another dad. FOLLOW the channel.💬 We’re in this together.
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(00:00):
What up everybody, welcome back to the show.
It is your boys, Alec and DJ. We haven't started like this in
a very long time, which is fine,but we're having fun.
And this episode we're we're in the thick of men's mental health
month. We've been having some really
cool people on. We had a new therapy on last
week with Tanner Man Waring and we actually have Joe from I Love
(00:23):
You Bro Project coming on here in two weeks.
So you guys will hear from him. But the next two episodes are
just me and DJ, and we want to make an episode war for
resources for men who don't knowwhere to get help, where to find
help if they're struggling mentally or physically, or just
they just need someone to talk to.
So that's what this episode would be.
(00:44):
It'll be a little bit shorter, but it's just going to be a
resource episode for you guys. We really want to just fill your
guys's tool belt with all the resources you need if you are
struggling, right Dee? That is right.
If we can equipped you with the tools to get through any season
that you're going through. Without sounding too
(01:06):
Christianese, I feel like seasonis used quite a bit.
But yeah, we just want to equip you.
We want you to make sure you guys, you guys have the tools or
at least some tools. You may not even find these
useful, but if we can point you in the right direction so that
you can get the help that you need, that's what we're all
about. We're all about community and
(01:26):
that's probably what's going to bring us to our first points.
And we have been talking about it and it is on Facebook, but
Rooted in Brotherhood is our Facebook group.
We have a couple people that have joined.
Please do. That is probably the best spot
to go to find community. And from there, once you get
(01:48):
acclimated to a community environment, we, our hope is
that you find something physicallike you, you find maybe a
church or you find a group that's, you know, in your
surrounding area that you can goto because virtual is great, but
in person is even better. And so we want to create the
(02:10):
virtual and we, we have talked about doing conferences and
doing stuff like that, like retreats and we still plan on
doing all that. So in person it will come, just
right now it is all virtual. So get acclimated to community.
Then go find a community and hopefully, you know, we expand
(02:30):
and we can start creating littlecommunities in different parts
of the United States and many different parts of the world.
But yes, we want to give you that tool in your arsenal
because community has helped us out a ton.
If you do this alone, you will not when that is just how it is.
(02:51):
It doesn't mean that you're not strong enough, it just means
that there are going to be timeswhere you're not going to see
the light, but somebody else will and they can pull you
towards it. The cool thing is, I mean, we're
going to shout out a couple of their men's groups, but ours is
free. We'll just put that out there.
You know, the other ones may notbe free.
(03:11):
You know, people do this for a living.
But at the moment ours is free. So if you want to join, ours is
Rooted in brotherhood in Facebook groups, go check it
out. And if you want to check it out,
the link is in the show notes below.
Also, you guys know Larry Hagner, he was on He's the Dad
Edge. He has the dad Edge alliance.
He amazing guy, speaks life intopeople and he's a very, very
(03:34):
good person to reach out for that.
Another one I've been following for a long time is Chris Rodak.
He does the Rising Father program.
It's the, I think it's called the Men of Fire.
Yeah, Men of Fire program. So those are three really good
ones that just, if you get put in those, I know the other two
(03:55):
do cost money, but they're amazing programs.
Larry Hagner is awesome. Chris Radack is awesome.
Personally have met both of them.
Amazing men, amazing fathers. So just if you want to get
plugged into their awesome, if you don't want to hear us talk
about anymore. I know if you're listening to
our podcast, you should want to hear us more, but whatever.
But join Rooted. I mean, we're very adamant about
(04:16):
people joining Rooted because wewant to build it.
We want to pour into you. We want to help build you.
Be there if when you fall and help you up.
Yeah. So just find a community of
dads, find a community of men who like we talked about a lot
of us are going through the samestuff.
We don't want to admit it. And you know, what's funny is
like people think it's weak for us to admit when we're down and
(04:38):
we're not feeling good and we'regoing through the thick of life,
but it's not weak for wanting help.
It's actually wise of you for seeking it, you know, And so
just think about that like you're doing it for your family.
If if you don't like, oh, well, I don't want to do anything for
myself. Like do it for your kids, do it
for your wife. Reach out, find a program.
(05:00):
Yeah, that's the Spielan programs.
I mean, we, there's other things, there's apps that we
could talk about. I mean, I used something that
helped me majorly was Better Help.
And that's more of a counsellingthing.
But like, better help is there. You don't have to see someone.
If you don't want to see someoneface face, you can text them,
call them. I think there's a meeting in
(05:22):
person. I did text because I was like,
well, I don't want to see someone.
I don't want to talk Space, space.
It's easier just to send words, so that's what I did.
I did text and it helped. Yeah, there's this other place
too if you're struggling ADHD. It's called unscripted brain.
You should check that Channel out too.
Yeah, I haven't done too much onthat.
I should get back on that. That's there.
(05:44):
There's what Alec is talking about there.
You know, maybe you don't have, you know, like, like, like my
finances are kind of strapped atthe moment.
There are actually a lot of places that have student and I
know when you hear that studentsare the ones that'll be your
therapist, it's a little scary, little unsure of what's you
(06:06):
know, they're still learning. But I will say they are
monitored by a professional, somebody who's seasoned, been in
the psychology or whatever industry for quite some time.
Usually you seem something people 1520 plus years and they,
they monitor everything. They, these students will bring
(06:27):
stuff back to them and most of them are on a sliding scale.
So they go based off of what your income is.
So I, there have been times where I cannot afford therapy.
And So what I had to do is go toone of these for Vegas.
It was at UNLV and they have, you know, students it, you know,
(06:53):
about six months you might have them and they swapped them out
and so you have another therapist.
So maybe it's a short fix if you're looking to have somebody
more concrete and consistent. But if you're strapped for cash,
there are options. And I don't think Betterhelp
costed that much right when you were.
Using no. The nice thing about Betterhelp
too is it goes through your insurance, so I didn't actually
(07:15):
have to pay out of pocket so it.Was nice, perfect, perfect.
So if your insurance covers it, great.
If your insurance doesn't cover it, do like I'm saying, sliding
scale. And you know, it didn't cost me,
but maybe 20-30 bucks a session if that.
Like they really did help me outand I was able to get the help
that I needed and get the ADHD diagnosis that I needed, a
(07:39):
preliminary diagnosis, but it was enough to start my journey
on medication and stuff like that.
So, yeah, yeah, that is some of the resources that are that are
out there. And just going back to what Alec
was saying about strength, you know, we think doing it alone or
whatever, it actually takes realstrength to admit that you need
(08:04):
help because it's not easy. It's not easy to let people in.
It's not easy to be vulnerable. It's not, you know, because
being transparent is scary because you don't know what
somebody's going to do with thatinformation.
But I'm telling you, every time that I have opened up, it has
(08:25):
always been for the better. I don't think there's ever been
a time where it went against me when I sought out help
professionally. Or if you have a friend like
Alec and I, we basically are accountability partners for
mental health. So if one of us notices the
other one is struggling or maybenot having a great day, or we
(08:48):
kind of ask them, you know, like, hey, Alec, like I know
you're saying you're good, but are you really good?
And it's really like, so having somebody like that, if you don't
have anybody right now, that's why our community is great.
You can start to get somebody where they'll hold you
accountable to being actually truthful to your emotions
(09:13):
instead of cuz guys, let's face it, just society has taught us
this When somebody asks you and I'm I'm going to somebody asks
you, hey, how you doing today? What's your first response?
Probably I'm good. How about you?
They'll say I'm good, but do youreally even care if they're
(09:33):
good? Probably not.
They don't even care if you're good.
That's why I'm. Telling you somebody, that's the
thing nowadays, because that's the every answer.
Sorry to cut you off, but yeah, that's just no, no, you're good.
Built into our brain, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, I, it's just a a response. And we get so acclimated to
(09:53):
saying that response that we don't truly check in with
ourselves to see if we're actually good.
And I have stopped myself a couple times when I'm about to
say I'm good and then I say I'm OK.
But then I really don't want them to pry on why I'm just OK.
That's kind of like why I hesitate sometimes.
(10:15):
But you don't have somebody thatknows you knows like, well,
you're saying you're good, but there your tone and everything
else is off. Something doesn't seem right.
And when somebody can actually ask you truthfully, how are you
doing? I actually had a pastor do this.
This is like probably the first time I've had, I had an adult in
(10:39):
my life actually asked me like how I was doing, like stopping
me and actually, like, I had a youth pastor that I was serving
under as like a junior youth leader.
I was a youth myself. So trying to lead my peers, you
know. But yeah, he, he stopped me.
(10:59):
His name is Tim. Tim Robertson.
Tim Robertson. He, he stopped me and he was
like, hey, how you doing? And I said, oh, I'm good.
No, no, no, no, no. How are you actually doing?
And instantly, and I could stillfeel the emotions today.
I like, I broke down and I, I guess I'm not OK.
(11:19):
I guess I, I don't know why. Why am I feeling all these
emotions right now? Because he could see through all
of the crap and he can see rightto actually how I was doing.
So when you have somebody that can speak into your life like
that, life changing really. But I'll get off that soapbox,
(11:40):
whatever you will. But yeah, find yourself
somebody, you know, money is, I know can be tight, especially
nowadays inflation and everything is up around the
country. And so it's it's not super easy
to want to seek out help, especially if it costs money.
So there are resources out there.
(12:00):
That's something you can talked about too, you know, with with
deflation being up and stuff like that.
That's something that can affecta lot of people right now and
that can put you in a bad slump too mentally because
everything's going up, gas is going up, groceries are going
up, and we're all just struggling trying to figure out
how we're going to make it through the day and make it
through that. So that's another big thing
nowadays that is people are struggling with his funds and
(12:23):
all that stuff. And you know, counseling,
sometimes it's not cheap, but like DJ said, he found a cheap
1. And so that's why this episode,
we just want to make sure you guys have the resources to
figure it out because even if itcosts a little bit more than you
have, like at the end of the day, it's going to be worth it
to almost invest in yourself in a way, you know, but just help
(12:46):
get yourself better. There's some podcasts as well.
I mean, there's obviously our podcast.
We this whole month is dedicatedto mental health.
We do touch on it outside of this month, but we are not a
full on full-fledged mental health podcast.
One that we have had on, we've had the dad bods on here,
amazing dudes. They are full-fledged mental
(13:09):
health podcast. Amazing guys to talk to.
They work with nerd HQ. Nerd HQ is all about mental
health. Amazing company, amazing
resources there if you guys wantto check them out.
And then I wrote down a couple other ones.
There's the get real podcast andthere's the suicide noted.
The suicide noted actually stuckout.
It's really cool as they bring people on that are suicide
(13:32):
survivors and they hear their stories and in the description
it talks about how like, you know, you think it because the
title says suicide. Noted.
That'd be a depressing podcast. It was actually a very joyful
light hearted podcast. They're celebrating these people
still being alive. So those are some other
resources, some other podcasts out there for you guys to look
out for. Like we said, we're here and you
(13:54):
guys can comment on listen, we're on everything.
You guys can put comments anywhere.
I'm going to see it. We'll get back to you.
We would love to talk to you guys as well as if if you guys
need more help, if you guys needlike reach out to us if we need
to help get you plugged into oneof these places, we would love
to do that too. I mean there's even simpler
(14:15):
things, free things. I think I talked about a couple
of these. There's apps apps just go on
your phone. Y'all just download them.
There's I have the mental health.
There's not it's just called mental.
It's just got an M on it. I have that on my phone right
now. There's Yooper, Moodnotes,
Headspace, there's just things you can put an implant in your
daily routine to help you get through things.
(14:36):
If like I said, if you don't want to talk to people because
that's sometimes the hardest thing to do.
But if your dad, which hopefullyyou are listening to this
podcast is worth it for your kids and wife, I can't say that
enough. Like we talked to, he won't be
on till you're hearing this episode 4, but we won't be on
till next month. We talked to Brian Bulger
yesterday and just fixing ourselves for our kids and
(14:59):
fixing those generational curses.
We kind of went to that a littlebit.
That's what being a dad is about.
Sitting around just giving up onlife is not what it's about.
Being a dad is one of the highest callings you can reward.
DJ kind of talked out of on it and that episode is, you know,
we think that our kids owe us everything, but they don't like
(15:22):
it wasn't their choice to come to this world.
We chose to have the kids, so weowe them everything.
We may feel like we have to honor our parents, which is
fine, or our kids need to honor us, which by you living your
best life and you being mentally, physically,
spiritually healthy is going to show your kids how to honor you.
(15:46):
And when people go out, they're like, oh, you're just like your
dad. Like, that's the best compliment
you can get. So why wouldn't you want to show
that to your kids, you know? Yeah.
It's really good that you touched on that.
How do you expect your kids to honor you if you don't honor
yourself? How do you expect them to value
you when you don't value yourself?
(16:07):
How do you expect them to love you when you don't love
yourself? Guys, it starts with taking care
of you. I know this example goes around
quite a bit, but you're on an airplane, right?
What's the thing? When I say the mask come down,
you put your mask on 1st Why? Because if you don't take care
of yourself, how are you going to take care of those around
you? It's so true in life that we
(16:30):
cannot express it enough. We've had dad after dad after
dad after dad, mom, then dad anddad and dad and dad on and they
say the same thing. You know, actually that thing
that Alec was talking about, it came from Danny.
And I don't know where Danny gotit from if she just came up with
on her own. But like, that's what she
(16:51):
literally said on her episode iswe like our kids don't owe us
anything. We owe everything to them.
They they didn't choose to be here.
We chose to have them. So that means, yeah, it's not
going to be easy. We got to choose them everyday.
But the way that we do that, in the way that we stay here
(17:12):
choosing them is by taking care of us so that we live long
enough to keep on choosing them because otherwise you'll become
a distant memory that hurts whenthey think about you versus man,
(17:37):
The life that I had with my dad,like it becomes more, yeah, we
want you guys to stay long enough so you keep on choosing
them. And, you know, God willing, you
live a long life and, you know, sickness or something that
doesn't take you out. But yeah, that's that's.
(17:57):
Yeah, cool. Well, like we said, we're gonna
keep this up so short, guys, andwe just wanted to make something
and put something out so you guys have all the resources you
need to get healthy, get healed.We love you guys and you know,
that's why we're doing this. Actually we're recording this on
the 14th of June which means in a week me and DJ will be
(18:20):
together and it's our two year anniversary and how we
celebrating we're going to Sesame Place where?
Kids. Water park.
But that's what it's all about. Y'all get out there, hang out
with your kids, have fun, and anything you're going to do in
life, put it all into it becauselike me and DJ, we could give up
a long time ago on this freakingpodcast.
(18:41):
We're here because we care aboutyou guys.
And it started because of us because we needed a place to
talk. And now it's become a resource
for men to get stronger. And we just want to add value to
your lives. And we just want to build you
guys up when you fall. So we love you guys, Yeah.
Love you guys. We'll see you on the next
episode. Yep.
(19:01):
OK, guys.
What up everybody, welcome back to the show.
It is your boys, Alec and DJ. We haven't started like this in
a very long time, which is fine,but we're having fun.
And this episode we're we're in the thick of men's mental health
month. We've been having some really
cool people on. We had a new therapy on last
week with Tanner Man Waring and we actually have Joe from I Love
(00:23):
You Bro Project coming on here in two weeks.
So you guys will hear from him. But the next two episodes are
just me and DJ, and we want to make an episode war for
resources for men who don't knowwhere to get help, where to find
help if they're struggling mentally or physically, or just
they just need someone to talk to.
So that's what this episode would be.
(00:44):
It'll be a little bit shorter, but it's just going to be a
resource episode for you guys. We really want to just fill your
guys's tool belt with all the resources you need if you are
struggling, right Dee? That is right.
If we can equipped you with the tools to get through any season
that you're going through. Without sounding too
(01:06):
Christianese, I feel like seasonis used quite a bit.
But yeah, we just want to equip you.
We want you to make sure you guys, you guys have the tools or
at least some tools. You may not even find these
useful, but if we can point you in the right direction so that
you can get the help that you need, that's what we're all
about. We're all about community and
(01:26):
that's probably what's going to bring us to our first points.
And we have been talking about it and it is on Facebook, but
Rooted in Brotherhood is our Facebook group.
We have a couple people that have joined.
Please do. That is probably the best spot
to go to find community. And from there, once you get
(01:48):
acclimated to a community environment, we, our hope is
that you find something physicallike you, you find maybe a
church or you find a group that's, you know, in your
surrounding area that you can goto because virtual is great, but
in person is even better. And so we want to create the
(02:10):
virtual and we, we have talked about doing conferences and
doing stuff like that, like retreats and we still plan on
doing all that. So in person it will come, just
right now it is all virtual. So get acclimated to community.
Then go find a community and hopefully, you know, we expand
(02:30):
and we can start creating littlecommunities in different parts
of the United States and many different parts of the world.
But yes, we want to give you that tool in your arsenal
because community has helped us out a ton.
If you do this alone, you will not when that is just how it is.
(02:51):
It doesn't mean that you're not strong enough, it just means
that there are going to be timeswhere you're not going to see
the light, but somebody else will and they can pull you
towards it. The cool thing is, I mean, we're
going to shout out a couple of their men's groups, but ours is
free. We'll just put that out there.
You know, the other ones may notbe free.
(03:11):
You know, people do this for a living.
But at the moment ours is free. So if you want to join, ours is
Rooted in brotherhood in Facebook groups, go check it
out. And if you want to check it out,
the link is in the show notes below.
Also, you guys know Larry Hagner, he was on He's the Dad
Edge. He has the dad Edge alliance.
He amazing guy, speaks life intopeople and he's a very, very
(03:34):
good person to reach out for that.
Another one I've been following for a long time is Chris Rodak.
He does the Rising Father program.
It's the, I think it's called the Men of Fire.
Yeah, Men of Fire program. So those are three really good
ones that just, if you get put in those, I know the other two
(03:55):
do cost money, but they're amazing programs.
Larry Hagner is awesome. Chris Radack is awesome.
Personally have met both of them.
Amazing men, amazing fathers. So just if you want to get
plugged into their awesome, if you don't want to hear us talk
about anymore. I know if you're listening to
our podcast, you should want to hear us more, but whatever.
But join Rooted. I mean, we're very adamant about
(04:16):
people joining Rooted because wewant to build it.
We want to pour into you. We want to help build you.
Be there if when you fall and help you up.
Yeah. So just find a community of
dads, find a community of men who like we talked about a lot
of us are going through the samestuff.
We don't want to admit it. And you know, what's funny is
like people think it's weak for us to admit when we're down and
(04:38):
we're not feeling good and we'regoing through the thick of life,
but it's not weak for wanting help.
It's actually wise of you for seeking it, you know, And so
just think about that like you're doing it for your family.
If if you don't like, oh, well, I don't want to do anything for
myself. Like do it for your kids, do it
for your wife. Reach out, find a program.
(05:00):
Yeah, that's the Spielan programs.
I mean, we, there's other things, there's apps that we
could talk about. I mean, I used something that
helped me majorly was Better Help.
And that's more of a counsellingthing.
But like, better help is there. You don't have to see someone.
If you don't want to see someoneface face, you can text them,
call them. I think there's a meeting in
(05:22):
person. I did text because I was like,
well, I don't want to see someone.
I don't want to talk Space, space.
It's easier just to send words, so that's what I did.
I did text and it helped. Yeah, there's this other place
too if you're struggling ADHD. It's called unscripted brain.
You should check that Channel out too.
Yeah, I haven't done too much onthat.
I should get back on that. That's there.
(05:44):
There's what Alec is talking about there.
You know, maybe you don't have, you know, like, like, like my
finances are kind of strapped atthe moment.
There are actually a lot of places that have student and I
know when you hear that studentsare the ones that'll be your
therapist, it's a little scary, little unsure of what's you
(06:06):
know, they're still learning. But I will say they are
monitored by a professional, somebody who's seasoned, been in
the psychology or whatever industry for quite some time.
Usually you seem something people 1520 plus years and they,
they monitor everything. They, these students will bring
(06:27):
stuff back to them and most of them are on a sliding scale.
So they go based off of what your income is.
So I, there have been times where I cannot afford therapy.
And So what I had to do is go toone of these for Vegas.
It was at UNLV and they have, you know, students it, you know,
(06:53):
about six months you might have them and they swapped them out
and so you have another therapist.
So maybe it's a short fix if you're looking to have somebody
more concrete and consistent. But if you're strapped for cash,
there are options. And I don't think Betterhelp
costed that much right when you were.
Using no. The nice thing about Betterhelp
too is it goes through your insurance, so I didn't actually
(07:15):
have to pay out of pocket so it.Was nice, perfect, perfect.
So if your insurance covers it, great.
If your insurance doesn't cover it, do like I'm saying, sliding
scale. And you know, it didn't cost me,
but maybe 20-30 bucks a session if that.
Like they really did help me outand I was able to get the help
that I needed and get the ADHD diagnosis that I needed, a
(07:39):
preliminary diagnosis, but it was enough to start my journey
on medication and stuff like that.
So, yeah, yeah, that is some of the resources that are that are
out there. And just going back to what Alec
was saying about strength, you know, we think doing it alone or
whatever, it actually takes realstrength to admit that you need
(08:04):
help because it's not easy. It's not easy to let people in.
It's not easy to be vulnerable. It's not, you know, because
being transparent is scary because you don't know what
somebody's going to do with thatinformation.
But I'm telling you, every time that I have opened up, it has
(08:25):
always been for the better. I don't think there's ever been
a time where it went against me when I sought out help
professionally. Or if you have a friend like
Alec and I, we basically are accountability partners for
mental health. So if one of us notices the
other one is struggling or maybenot having a great day, or we
(08:48):
kind of ask them, you know, like, hey, Alec, like I know
you're saying you're good, but are you really good?
And it's really like, so having somebody like that, if you don't
have anybody right now, that's why our community is great.
You can start to get somebody where they'll hold you
accountable to being actually truthful to your emotions
(09:13):
instead of cuz guys, let's face it, just society has taught us
this When somebody asks you and I'm I'm going to somebody asks
you, hey, how you doing today? What's your first response?
Probably I'm good. How about you?
They'll say I'm good, but do youreally even care if they're
(09:33):
good? Probably not.
They don't even care if you're good.
That's why I'm. Telling you somebody, that's the
thing nowadays, because that's the every answer.
Sorry to cut you off, but yeah, that's just no, no, you're good.
Built into our brain, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, I, it's just a a response. And we get so acclimated to
(09:53):
saying that response that we don't truly check in with
ourselves to see if we're actually good.
And I have stopped myself a couple times when I'm about to
say I'm good and then I say I'm OK.
But then I really don't want them to pry on why I'm just OK.
That's kind of like why I hesitate sometimes.
(10:15):
But you don't have somebody thatknows you knows like, well,
you're saying you're good, but there your tone and everything
else is off. Something doesn't seem right.
And when somebody can actually ask you truthfully, how are you
doing? I actually had a pastor do this.
This is like probably the first time I've had, I had an adult in
(10:39):
my life actually asked me like how I was doing, like stopping
me and actually, like, I had a youth pastor that I was serving
under as like a junior youth leader.
I was a youth myself. So trying to lead my peers, you
know. But yeah, he, he stopped me.
(10:59):
His name is Tim. Tim Robertson.
Tim Robertson. He, he stopped me and he was
like, hey, how you doing? And I said, oh, I'm good.
No, no, no, no, no. How are you actually doing?
And instantly, and I could stillfeel the emotions today.
I like, I broke down and I, I guess I'm not OK.
(11:19):
I guess I, I don't know why. Why am I feeling all these
emotions right now? Because he could see through all
of the crap and he can see rightto actually how I was doing.
So when you have somebody that can speak into your life like
that, life changing really. But I'll get off that soapbox,
(11:40):
whatever you will. But yeah, find yourself
somebody, you know, money is, I know can be tight, especially
nowadays inflation and everything is up around the
country. And so it's it's not super easy
to want to seek out help, especially if it costs money.
So there are resources out there.
(12:00):
That's something you can talked about too, you know, with with
deflation being up and stuff like that.
That's something that can affecta lot of people right now and
that can put you in a bad slump too mentally because
everything's going up, gas is going up, groceries are going
up, and we're all just struggling trying to figure out
how we're going to make it through the day and make it
through that. So that's another big thing
nowadays that is people are struggling with his funds and
(12:23):
all that stuff. And you know, counseling,
sometimes it's not cheap, but like DJ said, he found a cheap
1. And so that's why this episode,
we just want to make sure you guys have the resources to
figure it out because even if itcosts a little bit more than you
have, like at the end of the day, it's going to be worth it
to almost invest in yourself in a way, you know, but just help
(12:46):
get yourself better. There's some podcasts as well.
I mean, there's obviously our podcast.
We this whole month is dedicatedto mental health.
We do touch on it outside of this month, but we are not a
full on full-fledged mental health podcast.
One that we have had on, we've had the dad bods on here,
amazing dudes. They are full-fledged mental
(13:09):
health podcast. Amazing guys to talk to.
They work with nerd HQ. Nerd HQ is all about mental
health. Amazing company, amazing
resources there if you guys wantto check them out.
And then I wrote down a couple other ones.
There's the get real podcast andthere's the suicide noted.
The suicide noted actually stuckout.
It's really cool as they bring people on that are suicide
(13:32):
survivors and they hear their stories and in the description
it talks about how like, you know, you think it because the
title says suicide. Noted.
That'd be a depressing podcast. It was actually a very joyful
light hearted podcast. They're celebrating these people
still being alive. So those are some other
resources, some other podcasts out there for you guys to look
out for. Like we said, we're here and you
(13:54):
guys can comment on listen, we're on everything.
You guys can put comments anywhere.
I'm going to see it. We'll get back to you.
We would love to talk to you guys as well as if if you guys
need more help, if you guys needlike reach out to us if we need
to help get you plugged into oneof these places, we would love
to do that too. I mean there's even simpler
(14:15):
things, free things. I think I talked about a couple
of these. There's apps apps just go on
your phone. Y'all just download them.
There's I have the mental health.
There's not it's just called mental.
It's just got an M on it. I have that on my phone right
now. There's Yooper, Moodnotes,
Headspace, there's just things you can put an implant in your
daily routine to help you get through things.
(14:36):
If like I said, if you don't want to talk to people because
that's sometimes the hardest thing to do.
But if your dad, which hopefullyyou are listening to this
podcast is worth it for your kids and wife, I can't say that
enough. Like we talked to, he won't be
on till you're hearing this episode 4, but we won't be on
till next month. We talked to Brian Bulger
yesterday and just fixing ourselves for our kids and
(14:59):
fixing those generational curses.
We kind of went to that a littlebit.
That's what being a dad is about.
Sitting around just giving up onlife is not what it's about.
Being a dad is one of the highest callings you can reward.
DJ kind of talked out of on it and that episode is, you know,
we think that our kids owe us everything, but they don't like
(15:22):
it wasn't their choice to come to this world.
We chose to have the kids, so weowe them everything.
We may feel like we have to honor our parents, which is
fine, or our kids need to honor us, which by you living your
best life and you being mentally, physically,
spiritually healthy is going to show your kids how to honor you.
(15:46):
And when people go out, they're like, oh, you're just like your
dad. Like, that's the best compliment
you can get. So why wouldn't you want to show
that to your kids, you know? Yeah.
It's really good that you touched on that.
How do you expect your kids to honor you if you don't honor
yourself? How do you expect them to value
you when you don't value yourself?
(16:07):
How do you expect them to love you when you don't love
yourself? Guys, it starts with taking care
of you. I know this example goes around
quite a bit, but you're on an airplane, right?
What's the thing? When I say the mask come down,
you put your mask on 1st Why? Because if you don't take care
of yourself, how are you going to take care of those around
you? It's so true in life that we
(16:30):
cannot express it enough. We've had dad after dad after
dad after dad, mom, then dad anddad and dad and dad on and they
say the same thing. You know, actually that thing
that Alec was talking about, it came from Danny.
And I don't know where Danny gotit from if she just came up with
on her own. But like, that's what she
(16:51):
literally said on her episode iswe like our kids don't owe us
anything. We owe everything to them.
They they didn't choose to be here.
We chose to have them. So that means, yeah, it's not
going to be easy. We got to choose them everyday.
But the way that we do that, in the way that we stay here
(17:12):
choosing them is by taking care of us so that we live long
enough to keep on choosing them because otherwise you'll become
a distant memory that hurts whenthey think about you versus man,
(17:37):
The life that I had with my dad,like it becomes more, yeah, we
want you guys to stay long enough so you keep on choosing
them. And, you know, God willing, you
live a long life and, you know, sickness or something that
doesn't take you out. But yeah, that's that's.
(17:57):
Yeah, cool. Well, like we said, we're gonna
keep this up so short, guys, andwe just wanted to make something
and put something out so you guys have all the resources you
need to get healthy, get healed.We love you guys and you know,
that's why we're doing this. Actually we're recording this on
the 14th of June which means in a week me and DJ will be
(18:20):
together and it's our two year anniversary and how we
celebrating we're going to Sesame Place where?
Kids. Water park.
But that's what it's all about. Y'all get out there, hang out
with your kids, have fun, and anything you're going to do in
life, put it all into it becauselike me and DJ, we could give up
a long time ago on this freakingpodcast.
(18:41):
We're here because we care aboutyou guys.
And it started because of us because we needed a place to
talk. And now it's become a resource
for men to get stronger. And we just want to add value to
your lives. And we just want to build you
guys up when you fall. So we love you guys, Yeah.
Love you guys. We'll see you on the next
episode. Yep.
(19:01):
OK, guys.
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