October 13, 2021 • 40 mins
Cory Carlson joins us on the podcast and shares some important insights on how to win at home and with your team!
Topics include:
- Date Night tips
- The Five Capitals in life and how to prioritize each
- Identity
- The powerful impact of coaching
Cory's Story:
As an entrepreneur, former executive, husband, and father of three, Cory Carlson understands the pressures working parents face. He is passionate about helping business leaders win both at work and home.
Twenty years in corporate America gave Cory some amazing opportunities as he worked his way up to the executive level. But he also saw brokenness: work without purpose, strained marriages, and absentee parents. Business leaders especially were often not living life to the fullest.
When Cory discovered leadership coaching, it helped him become a better leader, husband, and father. So he left his corporate career to help other leaders achieve a healthier work-life balance. Currently, Cory lives in Cincinnati with his awesome wife and three amazing children.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is the coach to coach podcast, episode number 38
game time.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
[inaudible]
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Hey, what's going on guys.
Welcome to the coach to coachpodcast, where we believe every
kid deserves a coach that cares,and every coach deserves someone
in their corner.
I'm your host, Nate Sully.
And this podcast is sponsored bythe Northern Kentucky fellowship
of Christian athletes.
We are incredibly grateful toour donors, our supporters, our
board members, volunteers,prayer partners, everybody that
(00:46):
contributes to this movement ofGod.
We call it Northern KentuckyFCA.
We have another great episodecoming at you in just a second.
We are going to be talking withCorey Carlson today.
Corey is currently an executivecoach that lives right here in
the Cincinnati area.
He is a entrepreneur, formerexecutive, a husband, and a
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father of three.
He is crazy passionate abouthelping leaders when both at
work and at home in his message,I believe is going to be super
valuable to those of you thatlisten, that are currently
coaches, but also all of our,uh, all of our FCA family and
friends, uh, that'll be aroundas well.
You'll be able to take somethingaway from this episode.
(01:27):
Absolutely.
That will help you in yourpersonal and professional life.
He is the author of win at home.
First.
It's an inspirational guy towork life balance.
It was an Amazon number one newrelease in three different
categories, and then listed inthe Forbes article as seven
books.
Everyone on your team shouldread.
He also has the one at homefirst podcast and is active on
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some social media channels.
So I cannot wait to hop intothis conversation with Corey
Carlson.
All right, guys, we are herewith Corey Carlson today.
Corey, how you doing brother?
Speaker 3 (01:59):
I'm doing great, Nate.
Thanks for having me today.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Yeah, I'm glad it's worked out well.
I've already given the listenersa little bit of, uh, just kind
of the highlights of your bio,but would love to just hear a
little bit of more, um,elaboration on just a little bit
about Corey kind of backgroundand how you got into what you're
doing these days.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Yeah.
Thanks Nate.
Well, I mean, what I, what I donow, I never thought I would be
doing, which is, you know, nowit's it's coaching, speaking,
writing, but I never thought Iwas going to do it.
I went to university ofMissouri, graduated a civil
engineering degree and I startedmy career in civil engineering.
I had always thought I'd be thecorporate guy and climb that
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ladder and eventually be anexecutive CEO.
That's kind of what I alwaysthought I would do.
And start a career in Kansascity.
He got promoted, moved toDenver, was there for awhile.
Then got promoted, moved toCincinnati where we live now.
And about nine years ago, I waskind of in over my head where I
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was VP of a hundred milliondollar division.
I found myself taking myidentity to work where if I had
a great month, I thought I wasthe man.
If I had a bad month, oh, Ithought I was gonna get fired.
I was kind of looking around thecorner.
See if my boss was walking downthe hall to terminate me.
And it started to affect my, mylife.
I mean, I was skipping gymworkouts.
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I was tense at home.
I just, I needed help.
So I reached out to my boss andhe said, get an executive coach.
I've always had one.
So I did, I jumped on that, hadan executive coach and Nate just
say it.
And it changed my life.
It sounds extreme, but it istrue.
One.
It did change my life and thenobviously changed my career
because now it's what I do.
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But what ended up happening withthe coaches?
I just, it shifted priorities.
It shifted what I focused on,what I, what people were telling
me.
It was important.
I was able to discern what isreally important.
So I became a better fatherleader husband at that company.
I took one more corporate movewhere I was president of sales
for a national contractor.
And a lot of the things I wasbeing coached on, I was actually
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coaching everyone else.
When I saw them become betterspouses, better parents, and yet
profitability for the companyimproved.
I was like, I want to do thisfor a living.
So I few years ago startedleaving the corporate to build
the coaching practice.
And that's what I do now.
So I went from basically being aclient because my life got
upside down to now.
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I'm trying to help otherexecutives when both at work and
at home,
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Man.
Yeah.
A lot of that just being, Ithink it's the most powerful
when you're now a walkingtestimony of something that
somebody built into you andyou're giving it away when
you've been personally impactedin that way.
I know that's a big deal andthen I'm sure it was helpful.
And you're saying you wereteaching the other, teaching
others what you were learningalong the way.
I'm sure that helped you reallyinternalize it and walk out
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where you were taken into.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Oh, absolutely.
I mean, I think we all becomebetter teachers and our
discipleship is better whenwe're actually turning around
and sharing with others becausethrough part of the teaching,
you may expose your own weaknessor, oh, wait, I better work on
this area as well.
So yes, by, you know, quicklyemploy, I remember know teaching
my different employees.
(05:17):
Like I would say I learned atriangle for example, Nate.
So he learned to try and go,Hey, here are these three points
I remember teaching.
And maybe I would've forgot thethird point while I'm teaching
someone else.
I'm like, okay, why don't youfocus on these two in next week?
We'll get to the third one.
But today you just worry aboutthese two.
Cause I'm like, I don't rememberthe third one.
So sometimes I would teach alittle too fast, but it was, it
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was just fun.
And it was, you know, a bigdifference.
I see with those that I lead andyou probably see the same thing
is we can give them all theinformation they want, whether
it's a triangle or it's a squareor it's, you know, these five
teaching points.
There's plenty of information.
You and I both have bookshelvesbehind us as we talk.
So we're not lackinginformation.
(06:00):
But what I see to be the, thegap is implementation is to get
individuals to app actuallyimplement what they're hearing
on a podcast or in a book, youdon't have to implement all of
them, but there's some,hopefully something from like
this podcast, our conversations,some every listener and grabs at
least something to try to dodifferently than they did
(06:20):
yesterday.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Yeah.
Yeah, no, that makes, it makes aton of sense.
I certainly don't need any more.
One of my, uh, took theStrengthsFinders test, uh, I
guess it was, I don't know,probably not three or four years
ago now, but one of my, one ofmy strengths was learner, which
I was like, oh, cool.
That sounds, that soundsawesome.
That sounds good.
But it describes in kind of the,the full picture of a learner.
What is a strength can also be aweakness to where as a learner,
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all kinds of research, take in,take in, take in, consume all
this information and then notactually do anything different
about it.
And that's like the whole pointof taking in the information is
that is to implement.
And, and this was a question Iwas going to maybe ask later on
in the episode, but I'd love tojust go ahead and maybe mention
it.
Now you've worked with a lot ofdifferent leaders.
What's the biggest issue in thatsense of like the information to
the implementation.
(07:05):
What's the biggest obstacle fromtaking somebody from knowing,
knowing what to do and actuallyseeing the results and seeing
the transformation?
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Yeah, I think a lot of the issue with implementation
is that they don't have a guide.
They don't know what toimplement.
And what I mean by that is if,well, before I had a coach, I
would listen to all the podcastsand one podcast would say, Hey,
here's this, if you want to be abetter leader, use this triangle
with your team.
Then I go to the next podcast islike, you want to be a better
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leader, uses a square.
And then you go, the nextpodcast is like, you want to be
a better leader, use thiscircle.
And I would just it's thatparalysis by analysis.
I was like, I don't know whichof these shapes to use.
And, and so I would bump intothat quite a bit.
And then when I got a coach, itwas like, Hey, they're all
great.
Just go with the trianglebecause I know it works.
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It's going to work.
Let's go.
And it's a great, no, that's allI need.
And then off I went, so I thinkwhat ends up happening as we're
consuming all this differentinformation, we're, we're
getting kind of locked upbecause we don't know which of
the great information we shoulduse.
And so I think, I think there'sa little bit of that where it's
just having the discernment ofwhat to use and then the
confidence to go forward andkeep pushing through.
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Because as you do roll somethingout, your first person that you
share it with, maybe, you know,it's like[inaudible] or they
don't, they themselves don'timplement it very well.
And then you give up and you'relike, oh, I forget it.
I'll just go back to my oldways.
So I think it's just that thediscernment to decide what to
implement and then thediscipline to continue with the
implementation.
(08:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Yeah, no, that, that's, that's a great point.
And I've even heard it on thosethat are trying to figure out,
um, different Bible translationsknowledge, you know, which one,
which one's the best, you know,and I've heard somebody say,
well, the one you, the oneyou'll read the is the best one,
whichever one is the one thatyou feel best with and you're
going to read, uh, that's theone you go with.
It's not necessarily, which wasthe best one.
(09:03):
That's like, Hey, whichever one,you're going to read, take that
and run with it.
No, that's good.
That's awesome.
Well, the first time I hadalways, I been, you know, we'd
have some mutual connections andsome different things.
I think I discovered on socialmedia originally, um, real quick
plug, like you're one of thebest, uh, LinkedIn, uh, Facebook
, uh, connection.
(09:23):
So know, make sure you lookCorey up on social media after
this, because you just create alot of value on there.
I just remember the different,um, one minute videos or tips
you give out.
But when we met in person, thefirst time we ran into each
other at crossroads Florence andthe atrium, and then one of the
things we had discussed was thething that, that you saw maybe
even experience yourself, butyou were seeing with leaders,
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coaches, or business people.
Like I was just the lack of abig night.
I know they haven't had thatdedicated time with their
spouse.
And just how, how, howfrustrating it can be to hear
stories of man it's been three,four or five years since they've
had a date with their spouse.
Um, so I know that that'ssomething that you definitely
address and in some of yourmessaging, your content, but, uh
(10:05):
, just for, for our coaches andour listeners today, what would
be some tips that you found ofwhat makes a good date night or,
or how to, you know, how tomaybe take a couple steps
towards having a, uh, having abig night rhythm?
Speaker 3 (10:21):
Yeah.
Day night.
It was a problem in our marriagewhere we didn't go on dates.
You know, we were so busy, we doa lot of double dates.
This is, and just, we justdidn't make it a priority.
We didn't think it needed to be.
We thought we were kind of fine.
And in fact, we weren't, I'veafter seeing in my own marriage,
what a lack of date night didthe lack of commitment.
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The, we became roommates, allthose components, we had to do
something different.
So through some, you know,basically a Bible study class
that we were at in the church,we went to an in Denver, started
talking about just dating, youknow, your spouse, dating your
kids, dating all the, you know,kind of, and it sounds so
overwhelming when you hear it,but then it's, well, why I'm out
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with some guys having fun.
That's when my wife can have ita fun, intentional date with the
kids, vice versa.
When she's out with hergirlfriends, I can then have
intentional time with the kids.
And then we can, we also haveour nights date nights.
So there starts to be a lot ofoverlap that takes place like
this weekend.
My wife is in Florida withgirlfriends.
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That that is so huge.
Now it's a heavy lift for mebecause I got to take the kids
everywhere.
I feel like all I'm doing ismaking lunches and walking dogs
and, you know, driving kidsaround it mixed doing with my
job.
But by starting to, you know,allow people to kind of date
their friends, date, their kidsdate, each other, that was a
game changer for us.
So that was one piece, but thenzooming in on the dating, the
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spouse, you know, for Holly andI w by just going on dates and
spending time together, there'sconnection.
Otherwise we in fact will becomeroommates and it doesn't have to
be a heavy lift.
It doesn't have to be go theroute, you know, most expensive
steak house.
It could just be going for awalk going coffee, but it's that
making eye contact, letting themknow that you see them, you
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appreciate them, you hear them.
So, you know, that's kind ofbeen, been a big piece, but what
I found is a lot of people don'tgo on the dates because they,
you know, they're too busy, thisparticular season, whether, you
know, whether you're anexecutive or your coach it's oh,
well, you know, it's, we're inthe season right now.
I can't go on any dates.
We'll get it.
(12:34):
We'll we'll date at the end ofthe season.
Well maybe, I mean, who knows itwill the marriage still be
there?
I mean, it, to be honest, willit still be there in a day?
Doesn't have to be this Fridaynight deal.
If he can't do it because of,you know, the sporting event
don't do a Saturday morningbreakfast, just do whatever it
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could be.
It could be at night, it couldbe a day.
It could be a brunch.
It doesn't matter.
But just the time away, youneither, one of you, you're
looking at your phones, neitherone of you, you know, there's
not kids around, you're justhanging out, talking,
connecting.
When I work a lot withexecutives that, you know, they,
they go weeks, months withoutgoing on a date.
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That is, I mean, that is that'skryptonite to a, to a marriage
for sure.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
No.
Yeah, no.
Well said.
And I think one of your recentposts even talked about
something that you guys havetried where you have two
different locations for a day.
Uh, do you want to elaborate onthat a little bit?
A little bit?
Speaker 3 (13:33):
Yeah, for sure.
Well, I noticed that Holly and Iwould always, when we go out to
dinner, we would be talkingabout, it felt like kids and
schedules the whole time.
And we just couldn't like getoff of that topic, talking to my
coach.
And he just had made the commentto do two different locations.
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And so we started doing that andit has been a game changer.
So we'll go to two locations.
The first location is really totalk about the kids, the
logistics pull out, maybe thephones out we're, we're talking
Speaker 1 (14:06):
About
Speaker 3 (14:08):
It.
It really is a business meeting.
And that's what we talk about.
And then we go to the secondplace and that it's no more
logistics is no more businessmeeting instead.
It's a couple connection.
Yes.
Do the kids get brought back up?
Yes.
Does do we end up talking aboutsomething budget related again?
Yes.
(14:28):
But at the end of it, but bigpicture, the first parts of
business meeting, the second,one's more about connection.
Where do we want to go?
What are we dreaming about?
What, how are you feeling now?
And it's just, it's, it's beenawesome.
We have absolutely loved doingit.
Yeah,
Speaker 1 (14:43):
No, that's great.
Awesome.
Well, switching gears a littlebit.
I know something that you'vebeen certified in.
I think its term is fivecapitals and it's something that
our church I'm connected tocrusher.
As they've mentioned ondifferent times, it's been a
part of, um, a life and eyes.
Uh, we do an annual retreat kindof looking at the next year and
we try to evaluate these fiveareas, but I just think it would
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be super helpful for, for thecoaches because, um, I know
we're going to talk, you know,we've already talked about the
home side quite a bit, but I dothink there's this, there's this
lie that, um, if we, if we don'tgive a hundred percent of
ourselves to the bottom line,whether that's our win loss
record as a coach or as thebottom line of the financial
side on a, on a, as a businessleader, then somehow if it's
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always like a, trade-off like ifyou can't have all the, all the
areas it's constantly, you know,you're going to be getting
behind or not winning the wayyou want it with your team or at
work, if, if you're not giving ahundred percent of that.
So we'll just love to hear, um,just an overview of the five
capitals and maybe how that'shelped you along the way.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Yeah.
Five capitals is a coachorganization that I am certified
through.
As you mentioned, one of the keyframeworks that they use is in
fact called the five capitals.
There's many other tools thatthey use.
But when I first learned thefive capitals, which was about
nine years to go, I mean, it wasa game changer.
And in my personal life, we talkabout with the family, as you
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mentioned for you and your wife,but then also has a business
application, which we'll we'llhit on as I share it.
But the idea of the fivecapitals they're they're based
off different Bible verses, andI won't necessarily unpack all
those on this or even, and thenalso the parable of the talents
and a few other pieces.
But the five capitals is thisidea that there is this
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different currency in Jesus.
In John 10, 10 says that, youknow, he's came to give life
life to the full, and this ideathat if we live these five
categories in that right order,then we can in fact have life to
the full.
The hard part is a lot of timeswe don't live in the right order
because the world tells us tolive them differently.
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Our own flesh tells us to livethem differently.
So life can feel busy.
It can feel chaotic.
So the five capitals in theright order, the first one is
spiritual.
And it is about yourrelationship with God.
You know, if you're a coachyou're listening and you like
that idea of, of these fivecows, we talk about what I, what
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I share a lot with the spiritualpiece is I've got atheist who
are clients and say, it'sspiritual.
And it's for a lot of us whobelieve in, in Jesus and God, it
is that it's our connectionthere.
But if you've got an atheist onyour team or someone you're
talking with, it's, it's just,it's a greater purpose.
Like what is life outside of youand your own self?
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And, you know, Harvard businessreview did a study years ago
that all great ideas come fromthe shower.
And it's this idea that no one,no spouse's nagging, no phone is
ringing kids.
Aren't crying.
You're just sitting therethinking.
And that's that idea of, Hey,how are we growing in our
spiritual capital to spend moretime with God, spend more time
in the word.
If you're, if you have thatatheist on your team, how are
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they spending any journalingtime?
Are they thinking, are theydoing reflective questions?
Why did they lose their temperon the field?
The other day, that idea is it'sthe spiritual capital.
And so it's growing in wisdomand power.
So that's the first one.
The second one is relational.
So, you know, at the firstcommand is to love God.
The second one is to loveothers.
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Yeah.
It's a relational capitals bywho you're doing life with.
And so that's a spouse.
That's your kids.
That is your, your closefriends, maybe your teammates,
but it's who are you investingin?
And then who's investing in you.
And what's interesting about therelational is especially for the
men that are listening is ifwe're not careful, we've been so
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absorbed in our career.
We've been so absorbed in thesports program or the company we
worked for that we've let go offriends.
And there are, I remember when Iwrote the book, when a home
first I came across, this quoteis super timely, but it was a,
uh, a quote slash kind of joke,but no one ever talks about
Jesus's greatest miracle.
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And it's the fact that he hadthree close friends in his early
thirties, You know, cause that'sso true because we have great
friends and I school thencollege, and then we start our
families.
We start our careers.
And before we know we've said noto different friends.
And so that relational capitalis a huge one to make sure that
you're spending time withfriends with loved ones, because
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I know you've had other guests,offices of Brian told him, he
talks a lot about the lone Wolfgets taken out.
And, and, and I totally agree.
And so for anybody listening tomake sure that it's not about
quality, I'm sorry, it's notabout quantity of friends.
It's about quality.
Like, are there people in yourlife you're having conversations
of depth with right now?
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I'm just talking sports, notjust talking weather, but
conversation of depth,
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Right?
Yeah.
And someone, I would just wantto insert there real quick too.
I've noticed just in my ownlife, it was a lot of my
friendships were already kind ofready, made up through college
because you have roommates.
I was on a, I was on thebaseball team.
So you have that locker room,you have this core pool of
people you're already spending aton of time with.
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And a lot of those relationshipsare kind of already architected
for you.
But like once you get out ofthat scenario, it happens in
both places too.
You don't have a set, you know,workout time that you have to be
there in the waiting room to gowork out with your team.
You got to figure that outyourself, you don't have this
set friend group that you'realready spending all this time
with and you have to go createthat.
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And I think that's a hugeadjustment and probably part of
that reason.
But now that's, that's a greatpoint.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
So the third capital is physical and this is about
time and energy.
How are you managing yourschedule or is your schedule
managing you?
And what's interesting about thephysical capital is if we're not
careful, it, our schedules, youknow, control all of us, you
know, whether you're a corporateexecutive and it is the schedule
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of, you know, I got the quarterscoming up, I got to make sure I
get everything done by year endor end of first quarter, or
you're a coach and it's herecomes a season or here's spring
training.
And then here's the season.
And we just say, you know, yesto everything.
And don't really think itthrough.
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I had a mentor share with methat the quantity of our nose
will drive the quality of ouryeses.
So meaning, you know, dependingon how many times we say no to
different things, when we sayyes, we actually can in fact
show up, we can show up withexcitement.
We can show up and be presentand actually be present where
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we're present.
And so that physical capital isa big one to make sure that
you're controlling yourschedule, whether it is, you
know, if it is sports season,then make sure you're saying no
to the stuff that's notcontributing to your top
priorities.
Save it for next time.
You know, there's a, the, thethought of, if you can't say
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heck yeah, then say no.
And so if it does not align withyour purpose, if it does not
align with investing in thosearound you, then it's, it's
probably time to say no.
And maybe in a couple of monthsrevisit it.
Yeah.
And then physical capital is youcan't do anything if you don't
have the energy.
So it's taking care of yourbody.
What time you going to bed?
What time are you waking upputting the phone down and
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actually just having some timeto let it to the brain slowed
down.
So that's this idea of thephysical capital.
The fourth one is intellectualcapital.
This is about insights andideas.
I'm bringing differentstrategies to the team, bringing
creativity to, to your work,whatever that could be.
And so that intellectual capitalwhat's interesting is, you know,
it's, it's down there forth.
A lot of times we are told itneeds to be at the highest.
(22:43):
Yeah.
But I, you know, I've heard itsaid before, like in the sports
world, what makes, you know,being an offensive or defensive
coordinator.
So challenging is once you showthat secret play is now known,
everyone knows the secret playand therefore it's not.
And that's why intellectualcapital can be down is because
information is free andavailable.
(23:04):
Thanks to Google, thanks tophones, grabbing videos, and
posting a play up on theinternet.
And so intellectual capital isimportant, but it's not as
important as a lot of us gettripped up thinking it is.
And then the fourth, the fifthcapital is financial capital,
which is, which is money.
And it's money is obviouslyimportant.
We we've got to steward ourresources well in a sports
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department and a family and acompany, but it can't be the end
all be all.
If you are driven for profit, ifyou are driven for revenue
ticket sales out of the, youknow, the box, then there's
things you're going tosacrifice.
You're going to make poorchoices.
If you're, you're, you're gonnastart cutting costs because you
care about the bottom line.
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And so it can get you trippedup.
So those are the five capitalsto live in that order, both as a
personal lens, which we can talkabout further as well as even a
company corporate lens.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
Yeah, no, that's really good.
And it just, I was just kind ofwriting them down and, uh, I, I
know I was aware of all five,but I think I had not heard the
order recently.
And what's interesting as I lookat this, you have spiritual,
relational, physical,intellectual money.
My general vibe from justAmerican society in general, it
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might just be a perfect flip asfar as just like the general, uh
, our culture.
Like it's like money first.
And then you got to get it's allintellectual get degree stuff.
Then you got to get healthy.
And then there's kind of thisfriendship community is down
there too.
And then spiritual it's liketruth is kind of either it's
either just your truth orwhatever it might be, um, on
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the, on the bottom rung there.
I just thought that wasinteresting that, you know, kind
of the, the way that, that God'skind of designed it to thrive is
, is, is really almost like aflip of a lot of the messages
that the world world sends us.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
That's absolutely right.
Nate, the world tells us to flipit in some of us.
I mean, this is a greatself-awareness tool for anyone
listening to, is to thinkthrough on your bad days, how
would you rank them?
You could the kind of thing, theacronym halt, you know, when,
when you're hungry, when you'reangry, when you're lonely, when
you're tired, there's a, wthere's the F or the capitals
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that we lean into.
Like for me, on my worst day,it's financial, you know, guys,
some different financial tookkind of wounds from growing up
where my dad had a couple ofmoments of losing his job.
My mom had cancer theneventually passed away when I
went to college.
And so I had to get loans and Ijust, the devil comes after me
(25:41):
with the lie of, Hey, it's allon you.
Hey, you're on your own.
And so I'll hear that.
So even to, to, to this day, thedevil will try to use that same
lie.
Just have it look a littledifferently because I'm the sole
provider for our family.
So if I don't have enoughprospects coming in or speaking
engagements, I start to get allnervous.
And so financial becomes mynumber one on my bad days, which
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leads to number two willintellectual.
That means I better consume morebooks.
I better listen to more podcastsbecause maybe I'm not getting
hired because I'm not the bestcoach ever, or I'm not the
smartest guy then.
So the third piece is physicalwhere I start just working all
the time, uh, because I'msending LinkedIn things, I'm
sending emails, I'm listening topodcasts, I'm working within the
fourth one.
If that doesn't, if that's notworking, then I'm going to see
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my friends got any ideas.
And then the last one, if noneof that's working, I'll ask God
if he's got any ideas.
And so that can be how it is.
So from a self-awareness toolfor listeners to think through
how are you on your bad days,pay attention to that.
And then what can you do torecalibrate to get them in the
right order?
Yeah,
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Yeah, yeah.
That's so good.
Uh, whether it be, just be justa quick handle on that, like
yeah.
So evaluate the bad days.
And then what would be a goodfirst step for a coach?
Who's kind of hear this for thefirst time.
Uh, just for them to reflect it.
Is there any, is it just kind oflike, Hey, look at each five and
give them rank them from one to10 and kind of why, or, or how
would you might coach somebodyif they just kind of wanted to
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do like a self-evaluation ofthese in their life?
Speaker 3 (27:07):
Yeah, absolutely.
So the first observation be, howwould you rank them on your bad
days to what does that order?
So what comes to the top?
Is it financial because you arethe sole provider, is it
intellectual because you werealways told growing up that
you're the smartest in theclass, and you still think that,
that you need to be the smartestin this, in the athletic
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department and you still need tobe the smartest in the
conference like that still isplaying tricks on you.
Maybe it's physical, you alwayswere the best athlete and
physically, you could prettymuch kind of conquer anything
you go after.
And so you still got someidentity wrapped around your
physical ability.
And so just have some awarenessof what your, the worst one is
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just so you can figure out howyou, how to conquer it.
And then the next one is takeeach of those five and just kind
of evaluate on a scale from zeroto 10, where would you rank
yourself?
I mean, I was spiritual.
Are you in the word daily?
Do you feel that you arespending time in solitude,
reading scripture, praying andreally just in reflective and
(28:11):
you may, it may be a season ofyour life.
You're like, actually, if I'mbeing honest, man, my spiritual
is pretty, is pretty weak.
I go to church, uh, you know,once a week or whatever that's
about it.
So if that's the case and let'slook to increase that
relational, where does that rank10 being your marriage is
thriving.
You got great engagementintention with your kids.
You got some good buddies youspend time with, maybe you in
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fact, go on guide trips or awomen trips.
Like my wife is right now, or isthis a wake-up call?
And then the physical capitalone is, is your schedule
controlling you?
Are you skipping out on gyms?
Are you eating crud?
Because you're just at the mercyof your busy-ness, then maybe
that's the wake up call.
(28:53):
So those are just some of theideas Nate to kind of think
through.
But man, it's a, it's aframework that I look at a lot.
I, I, I know on my good days, mycapital in the right order, I
know on my bad days, I some gottripped up and it's a reflective
question I ask at the end ofevery week and what were my
capitals and what do I need todo to get the lower scored ones
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better for next week?
Speaker 1 (29:16):
Right?
No, that's so good.
Yeah, for me, I think on my, onmy bad days, I think it ends up
being, um, I don't respond andtry to over-correct on the
physical, but I know like my, ifI get overly stressed or the
calendar is kind of controllingme, then I go to go to the
pantry and eat, eat some, eatsome junk, or get some chips or
whatever, kind of the short termthing.
(29:36):
Or I'm definitely guilty ofbeing, uh, embedded in my phone
when I know we need to get moresleep and then, you know, either
phone or Netflix or whateverthat is in that exact moment, it
feels like, oh man, we're kindof coping here, but I know we're
paying for it in the futuredays.
It's I just think it is.
It's just, it's a it's um, youknow, even as we're talking,
it's just a bit of a reminderfor me to be aware of those and,
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and to not just kind of takethat, that short term feeling
of, of making it better, butactually just looking at the
whole picture.
And I th I think too, one of thethings I want to make sure we're
touching on is, uh, actually inthe early episodes of this
podcast, I didn't know you weregoing to eventually write a book
called when home first, but, uh,I would say it, the, my son
offline was keep growing, keeplearning and keep changing lives
(30:24):
on your team and in your home.
And I was thinking, as I wasthinking about that as like, I
just deeply believe that youcould win a ton of ball games
and transform lives or that abusiness guy can have incredible
profits and also truly careabout his employees and have
them having thriving lives.
But I do think there's this lieof, like, you can't have both,
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and you're saying you you'veseen people when you even had
seasons of life potentiallywhere kind of all five capitals
or earn a healthy level.
I mean, is that even possible?
Because I feel like a lot of ourworld just says like, no, you
gotta, you gotta grind grind,grind on this one area and
everything else has to be tossedto the wayside to be successful.
I mean, w what would be yourresponse to somebody kind of
thinking that or feeling that
Speaker 3 (31:08):
100% is possible?
Absolutely.
Now within that a hundredpercent possible there's days
that it's going to get offtrack, there may be a week or
two that it gets off track andthat's okay.
Recalibrate come back.
I mean, if, if you're in themiddle of an intense sport
season or a four week run, andyou look at it, then it's a
(31:31):
conversation with your spouse,Hey, babe, busy, busy season.
This looks to be the great, youknow, the great run that we're
going to have as a team.
So, but on the other side ofthis, like, this is what Holly
and I have done over time isI've had busy travel schedule.
This is back when I was incorporate, and I can still have
busy travel schedules now, butwe will play in a staycation on
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the back end.
So we, anytime you have a busyseason, look to bookend it with
some rest and relationship wherebefore you go in that busy
season, do some intentionality.
And then on the other side, dosome intention items.
So I think that, you know,that's just an idea of it.
Doesn't have to be, Hey, I gotthis new job at this new school.
(32:14):
I'll see you in five years,babe, because on the end, who
knows what that's gonna looklike?
Right?
So I think that's what was onething is if someone's listening,
it's like not every day is gonnabe perfect, but to know that you
can recalibrate, you can T youknow, make some changes.
And I think the big thing,whether you're a coach or you're
an executive is ideally thefamily is the team that you're
(32:39):
with forever, where we have allI'm guilty of it.
We've gone to the company or acoach has gone to the team and
you give your all, well, thenyou get fired.
And, you know, you have yourkind, your, your head down your
tail between your legs and yougo, and your family is kind of
in shrapnels cause you haven'tgiven them any intention.
(33:00):
And so the big thing that I workwith executives on, and so for
any listener to hear is, youknow, we can't give our all to
something that just views us astemporary.
We are the temporary coach.
We are the temporary executive.
We are the temporary.
It may be a long, amazingcareer, no doubt about it.
But when we take our identity tosomething that's temporary, and
(33:21):
then that goes away, we're awreck.
And so to put our job in theright place, that is not our
identity.
It doesn't get all of our yeses.
Instead.
We make sure we are investing inour kids, that we are being
intentional with them, takingthem, go get ice cream, sitting
on the couch and hanging outwith them with zero phone
(33:42):
nearby, throwing the ball withthem, like real intentionality.
Same thing with dates with ourspouse is real intention.
I, with our spouse, seeing howthey're doing, how is their job
going?
How's their, you know, careergoing and having real
conversations with them.
Because if we don't do that, ifwe don't put some discipline
(34:03):
intention around home, we infact will lose at home.
Great.
You had an, you were an amazingcoach.
Awesome.
Well, unfortunately there, yougot some shrapnel in your life
and that's what I want to avoidwith anyone I run into, because
unfortunately for me, I want towork for at different times
where I lost at home.
And my, my passion is to makesure that no one loses at work
(34:26):
and home again.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
No, that's great.
And it's super encouraging a toknow it's possible.
And to know you can just kind ofcompensate, you know, for those
high seasons.
Like my wife has, she has onemore month of high school
volleyball season, and thenthey're performing really well.
And, you know, they do a lot,but we ended up having an
unexpected move.
It was a really good thing, buta situation where we moved
houses, um, over the month ofAugust was kind of our closing
(34:50):
time while we were going to takeour 10 year anniversary trip in
there.
But we had to end up cancelingon that.
But right after her season, wehave a big FCA event on November
5th.
And then after that, we're goingto actually, it's going to be
delayed, but we're going to takethat, that, uh, that anniversary
trip after that to kind of bookin this really high season, uh,
for both of us.
So we kind of unintentionallyalready kind of followed that
(35:10):
advice.
And I was like, man, that makesa ton of sense.
Like there was going to be aweek where it, we did, we
recently had a week where it wassuper hard between volleyball,
FCA stuff.
We kind of have a, uh, a family,um, a funeral would be around
and, and it was just a really,really hard week.
But to know that there's, we'regoing to come up for air on
purpose, you know, a little bitlater, I think does take the
(35:31):
pressure off of everyday havingto be perfect, but just look at
the whole corner of the wholeyear, the whole season, and are
already managing that as well.
Yeah.
Super helpful.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
And I love that example, Nate, because what ends
up happening, whether you're anexecutive or you're a coach,
you've got a plan for your team.
Like these are the practiceswe're going to have this.
We're going to be doing onMonday, Wednesday, Fridays with
trains going to look like theseare the different drills.
We'll do this with Tuesdays andThursdays look like, then we've
got our games and we travelhere, we're home here and we've
(36:00):
got it all laid out.
But then we go look at ourfamily schedule or our family
plan.
We wing it.
We've got no idea.
I'll figure that out later, butyou took attention.
I say, Hey, we've got a busyseason.
We want to put something on theback end of that.
And I think that's the big thingis we often are guilty of
winging it home, but given allof our strategies, all of our
(36:21):
creativity, all of ourintentionality to work and we
just kind of think we can get byat home and it doesn't work.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
Yeah.
I don't, I, I I'm.
Yeah.
I came from some trial and errorto just going back to the date
night just for a second is Ididn't trust myself for those to
happen unless I put them in thecalendar.
So I just have a, it's literallyin our Google calendar for
every, or week on Thursdays, Ithink it is, or Wednesdays or in
Bible season, like until Jesuscomes back, like there's no end
date on that to where I at leasthave to deal with that.
(36:49):
Each time that comes up on mycalendar, even if we can't do
that night, I'm always trying tofigure out like, where can we
move that?
Or how else, you know, okay,well, we did this whole thing.
This, we went to a weddingtogether and it had some good
stuff and coffee after whatever.
So that kind of counts.
So I'm always having to dealwith it when I put it on.
I just go ahead and put it inthere first.
Um, then I know it's going tohappen because without it, I
just know I'm not going to wingit.
(37:09):
Well, I don't trust myself.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
I mean, it's the rocks in the jar.
We all have heard, seen that adifferent metaphor where those
are the non-negotiables get thenon-negotiables in the calendar
and it's amazing how everythingelse still kind of falls into
place.
But if you don't get those rocksin, they don't happen.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
Yeah.
That's good.
Well, Corey, thank you so muchfor, for bringing it today, man.
It's just a super, superappreciative of your time.
Uh, if people want to connectwith you or kind of see some of
your content or get in touchwith you, how would you, where
would you direct them?
Speaker 3 (37:45):
Well, I appreciate the nice plug on social media.
Sometimes it feels like a blackhole at times where you're just
putting stuff out there and younever know what's going to
happen, but yeah, at CarlsonCorey on everything, LinkedIn is
definitely where I hang out themost.
Um, but yet, and then I alsohave a website, Corey M
carlson.com.
You can go there.
I send out a weekly email toleaders and sharing information
(38:07):
that, um, I'm learning as wellas what's going on with clients.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
Well, if I'd have been in better podcast status, I
would have already read the oneat home first, but a book.
But I did go ahead and orderthat this morning off Amazon.
So I've looked forward togetting that this weekend, I'll
be diving in, uh, and, andseeing what all is in there.
But I know you've had a, um, alot of, a lot of good feedback
from that.
So thank you for putting allthat time and effort into
putting that together.
I know getting a book out is noteasily done.
(38:33):
So thanks for pushing through.
I know it's a blessing to manyand uh, just this podcast today,
hopefully it's been helpful andpeople can, people can grow from
it.
So I appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (38:42):
Yeah.
Well, thanks for ordering thebook.
Yeah.
The book is on Amazon.
It's also audible.
You can hear my voice, do theaudible.
So for those that listen to it,but yeah, I mean, I'm grateful
for the book and it's, it hasimpacted folks and it's really
just sharing tools in my owntestimony that I'm wanting to
get out there.
So, yeah.
Thanks Nate, for getting thebook and having me on here
today.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
We'll see it
Speaker 2 (39:11):
[inaudible]
Speaker 1 (39:12):
All right, everybody.
That was our conversation withCorey Carlson.
So grateful.
He was able to come on the showand share some wisdom with us
today.
If you want to go a little bitdeeper or for more information
on this podcast, you can go to NK Y fca.org/podcast to see
previous episodes.
And you can also check out ourblog for the show notes as well
(39:34):
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One other favor we'd like to askis just to share this episode
with at least one person in yourlife that you think it might be
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If it's been valuable to you andserve you well, please don't
keep that to yourself.
Pass it along to, to a friend,maybe even in the coaching
network, uh, of, of your own.
And we would just want to servemore people.
That will be a, be a great wayto help us do that.
(39:56):
One takeaway that I need to lookat myself is to do that five
capitals evaluation.
It has been a while since I'velooked at it personally, but
just look at those five areasand take a quick account and
reflect a little bit and justsee where you're at scale of one
to 10 on those areas.
And then where do you go onthose bad days as well, taking,
just trying to apply.
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What was it, what was even said?
The information is out there.
Our heart is to truly serve youand to help you grow to be all
that God's called you to be.
So I'll, I'll do the throwbacksign-off line, keep growing,
keep learning and keep changinglives on your team and in your
home.
This is the coach to coach podcast, episode number 38
game time.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
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Speaker 1 (00:24):
Hey, what's going on guys.
Welcome to the coach to coachpodcast, where we believe every
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I'm your host, Nate Sully.
And this podcast is sponsored bythe Northern Kentucky fellowship
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We are incredibly grateful toour donors, our supporters, our
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We call it Northern KentuckyFCA.
We have another great episodecoming at you in just a second.
We are going to be talking withCorey Carlson today.
Corey is currently an executivecoach that lives right here in
the Cincinnati area.
He is a entrepreneur, formerexecutive, a husband, and a
(01:06):
father of three.
He is crazy passionate abouthelping leaders when both at
work and at home in his message,I believe is going to be super
valuable to those of you thatlisten, that are currently
coaches, but also all of our,uh, all of our FCA family and
friends, uh, that'll be aroundas well.
You'll be able to take somethingaway from this episode.
(01:27):
Absolutely.
That will help you in yourpersonal and professional life.
He is the author of win at home.
First.
It's an inspirational guy towork life balance.
It was an Amazon number one newrelease in three different
categories, and then listed inthe Forbes article as seven
books.
Everyone on your team shouldread.
He also has the one at homefirst podcast and is active on
(01:47):
some social media channels.
So I cannot wait to hop intothis conversation with Corey
Carlson.
All right, guys, we are herewith Corey Carlson today.
Corey, how you doing brother?
Speaker 3 (01:59):
I'm doing great, Nate.
Thanks for having me today.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Yeah, I'm glad it's worked out well.
I've already given the listenersa little bit of, uh, just kind
of the highlights of your bio,but would love to just hear a
little bit of more, um,elaboration on just a little bit
about Corey kind of backgroundand how you got into what you're
doing these days.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Yeah.
Thanks Nate.
Well, I mean, what I, what I donow, I never thought I would be
doing, which is, you know, nowit's it's coaching, speaking,
writing, but I never thought Iwas going to do it.
I went to university ofMissouri, graduated a civil
engineering degree and I startedmy career in civil engineering.
I had always thought I'd be thecorporate guy and climb that
(02:40):
ladder and eventually be anexecutive CEO.
That's kind of what I alwaysthought I would do.
And start a career in Kansascity.
He got promoted, moved toDenver, was there for awhile.
Then got promoted, moved toCincinnati where we live now.
And about nine years ago, I waskind of in over my head where I
(03:00):
was VP of a hundred milliondollar division.
I found myself taking myidentity to work where if I had
a great month, I thought I wasthe man.
If I had a bad month, oh, Ithought I was gonna get fired.
I was kind of looking around thecorner.
See if my boss was walking downthe hall to terminate me.
And it started to affect my, mylife.
I mean, I was skipping gymworkouts.
(03:24):
I was tense at home.
I just, I needed help.
So I reached out to my boss andhe said, get an executive coach.
I've always had one.
So I did, I jumped on that, hadan executive coach and Nate just
say it.
And it changed my life.
It sounds extreme, but it istrue.
One.
It did change my life and thenobviously changed my career
because now it's what I do.
(03:45):
But what ended up happening withthe coaches?
I just, it shifted priorities.
It shifted what I focused on,what I, what people were telling
me.
It was important.
I was able to discern what isreally important.
So I became a better fatherleader husband at that company.
I took one more corporate movewhere I was president of sales
for a national contractor.
And a lot of the things I wasbeing coached on, I was actually
(04:08):
coaching everyone else.
When I saw them become betterspouses, better parents, and yet
profitability for the companyimproved.
I was like, I want to do thisfor a living.
So I few years ago startedleaving the corporate to build
the coaching practice.
And that's what I do now.
So I went from basically being aclient because my life got
upside down to now.
(04:29):
I'm trying to help otherexecutives when both at work and
at home,
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Man.
Yeah.
A lot of that just being, Ithink it's the most powerful
when you're now a walkingtestimony of something that
somebody built into you andyou're giving it away when
you've been personally impactedin that way.
I know that's a big deal andthen I'm sure it was helpful.
And you're saying you wereteaching the other, teaching
others what you were learningalong the way.
I'm sure that helped you reallyinternalize it and walk out
(04:53):
where you were taken into.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Oh, absolutely.
I mean, I think we all becomebetter teachers and our
discipleship is better whenwe're actually turning around
and sharing with others becausethrough part of the teaching,
you may expose your own weaknessor, oh, wait, I better work on
this area as well.
So yes, by, you know, quicklyemploy, I remember know teaching
my different employees.
(05:17):
Like I would say I learned atriangle for example, Nate.
So he learned to try and go,Hey, here are these three points
I remember teaching.
And maybe I would've forgot thethird point while I'm teaching
someone else.
I'm like, okay, why don't youfocus on these two in next week?
We'll get to the third one.
But today you just worry aboutthese two.
Cause I'm like, I don't rememberthe third one.
So sometimes I would teach alittle too fast, but it was, it
(05:39):
was just fun.
And it was, you know, a bigdifference.
I see with those that I lead andyou probably see the same thing
is we can give them all theinformation they want, whether
it's a triangle or it's a squareor it's, you know, these five
teaching points.
There's plenty of information.
You and I both have bookshelvesbehind us as we talk.
So we're not lackinginformation.
(06:00):
But what I see to be the, thegap is implementation is to get
individuals to app actuallyimplement what they're hearing
on a podcast or in a book, youdon't have to implement all of
them, but there's some,hopefully something from like
this podcast, our conversations,some every listener and grabs at
least something to try to dodifferently than they did
(06:20):
yesterday.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Yeah.
Yeah, no, that makes, it makes aton of sense.
I certainly don't need any more.
One of my, uh, took theStrengthsFinders test, uh, I
guess it was, I don't know,probably not three or four years
ago now, but one of my, one ofmy strengths was learner, which
I was like, oh, cool.
That sounds, that soundsawesome.
That sounds good.
But it describes in kind of the,the full picture of a learner.
What is a strength can also be aweakness to where as a learner,
(06:44):
all kinds of research, take in,take in, take in, consume all
this information and then notactually do anything different
about it.
And that's like the whole pointof taking in the information is
that is to implement.
And, and this was a question Iwas going to maybe ask later on
in the episode, but I'd love tojust go ahead and maybe mention
it.
Now you've worked with a lot ofdifferent leaders.
What's the biggest issue in thatsense of like the information to
the implementation.
(07:05):
What's the biggest obstacle fromtaking somebody from knowing,
knowing what to do and actuallyseeing the results and seeing
the transformation?
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Yeah, I think a lot of the issue with implementation
is that they don't have a guide.
They don't know what toimplement.
And what I mean by that is if,well, before I had a coach, I
would listen to all the podcastsand one podcast would say, Hey,
here's this, if you want to be abetter leader, use this triangle
with your team.
Then I go to the next podcast islike, you want to be a better
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leader, uses a square.
And then you go, the nextpodcast is like, you want to be
a better leader, use thiscircle.
And I would just it's thatparalysis by analysis.
I was like, I don't know whichof these shapes to use.
And, and so I would bump intothat quite a bit.
And then when I got a coach, itwas like, Hey, they're all
great.
Just go with the trianglebecause I know it works.
(07:58):
It's going to work.
Let's go.
And it's a great, no, that's allI need.
And then off I went, so I thinkwhat ends up happening as we're
consuming all this differentinformation, we're, we're
getting kind of locked upbecause we don't know which of
the great information we shoulduse.
And so I think, I think there'sa little bit of that where it's
just having the discernment ofwhat to use and then the
confidence to go forward andkeep pushing through.
(08:21):
Because as you do roll somethingout, your first person that you
share it with, maybe, you know,it's like[inaudible] or they
don't, they themselves don'timplement it very well.
And then you give up and you'relike, oh, I forget it.
I'll just go back to my oldways.
So I think it's just that thediscernment to decide what to
implement and then thediscipline to continue with the
implementation.
(08:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Yeah, no, that, that's, that's a great point.
And I've even heard it on thosethat are trying to figure out,
um, different Bible translationsknowledge, you know, which one,
which one's the best, you know,and I've heard somebody say,
well, the one you, the oneyou'll read the is the best one,
whichever one is the one thatyou feel best with and you're
going to read, uh, that's theone you go with.
It's not necessarily, which wasthe best one.
(09:03):
That's like, Hey, whichever one,you're going to read, take that
and run with it.
No, that's good.
That's awesome.
Well, the first time I hadalways, I been, you know, we'd
have some mutual connections andsome different things.
I think I discovered on socialmedia originally, um, real quick
plug, like you're one of thebest, uh, LinkedIn, uh, Facebook
, uh, connection.
(09:23):
So know, make sure you lookCorey up on social media after
this, because you just create alot of value on there.
I just remember the different,um, one minute videos or tips
you give out.
But when we met in person, thefirst time we ran into each
other at crossroads Florence andthe atrium, and then one of the
things we had discussed was thething that, that you saw maybe
even experience yourself, butyou were seeing with leaders,
(09:44):
coaches, or business people.
Like I was just the lack of abig night.
I know they haven't had thatdedicated time with their
spouse.
And just how, how, howfrustrating it can be to hear
stories of man it's been three,four or five years since they've
had a date with their spouse.
Um, so I know that that'ssomething that you definitely
address and in some of yourmessaging, your content, but, uh
(10:05):
, just for, for our coaches andour listeners today, what would
be some tips that you found ofwhat makes a good date night or,
or how to, you know, how tomaybe take a couple steps
towards having a, uh, having abig night rhythm?
Speaker 3 (10:21):
Yeah.
Day night.
It was a problem in our marriagewhere we didn't go on dates.
You know, we were so busy, we doa lot of double dates.
This is, and just, we justdidn't make it a priority.
We didn't think it needed to be.
We thought we were kind of fine.
And in fact, we weren't, I'veafter seeing in my own marriage,
what a lack of date night didthe lack of commitment.
(10:42):
The, we became roommates, allthose components, we had to do
something different.
So through some, you know,basically a Bible study class
that we were at in the church,we went to an in Denver, started
talking about just dating, youknow, your spouse, dating your
kids, dating all the, you know,kind of, and it sounds so
overwhelming when you hear it,but then it's, well, why I'm out
(11:07):
with some guys having fun.
That's when my wife can have ita fun, intentional date with the
kids, vice versa.
When she's out with hergirlfriends, I can then have
intentional time with the kids.
And then we can, we also haveour nights date nights.
So there starts to be a lot ofoverlap that takes place like
this weekend.
My wife is in Florida withgirlfriends.
(11:28):
That that is so huge.
Now it's a heavy lift for mebecause I got to take the kids
everywhere.
I feel like all I'm doing ismaking lunches and walking dogs
and, you know, driving kidsaround it mixed doing with my
job.
But by starting to, you know,allow people to kind of date
their friends, date, their kidsdate, each other, that was a
game changer for us.
So that was one piece, but thenzooming in on the dating, the
(11:51):
spouse, you know, for Holly andI w by just going on dates and
spending time together, there'sconnection.
Otherwise we in fact will becomeroommates and it doesn't have to
be a heavy lift.
It doesn't have to be go theroute, you know, most expensive
steak house.
It could just be going for awalk going coffee, but it's that
making eye contact, letting themknow that you see them, you
(12:13):
appreciate them, you hear them.
So, you know, that's kind ofbeen, been a big piece, but what
I found is a lot of people don'tgo on the dates because they,
you know, they're too busy, thisparticular season, whether, you
know, whether you're anexecutive or your coach it's oh,
well, you know, it's, we're inthe season right now.
I can't go on any dates.
We'll get it.
(12:34):
We'll we'll date at the end ofthe season.
Well maybe, I mean, who knows itwill the marriage still be
there?
I mean, it, to be honest, willit still be there in a day?
Doesn't have to be this Fridaynight deal.
If he can't do it because of,you know, the sporting event
don't do a Saturday morningbreakfast, just do whatever it
(12:54):
could be.
It could be at night, it couldbe a day.
It could be a brunch.
It doesn't matter.
But just the time away, youneither, one of you, you're
looking at your phones, neitherone of you, you know, there's
not kids around, you're justhanging out, talking,
connecting.
When I work a lot withexecutives that, you know, they,
they go weeks, months withoutgoing on a date.
(13:16):
That is, I mean, that is that'skryptonite to a, to a marriage
for sure.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
No.
Yeah, no.
Well said.
And I think one of your recentposts even talked about
something that you guys havetried where you have two
different locations for a day.
Uh, do you want to elaborate onthat a little bit?
A little bit?
Speaker 3 (13:33):
Yeah, for sure.
Well, I noticed that Holly and Iwould always, when we go out to
dinner, we would be talkingabout, it felt like kids and
schedules the whole time.
And we just couldn't like getoff of that topic, talking to my
coach.
And he just had made the commentto do two different locations.
(13:54):
And so we started doing that andit has been a game changer.
So we'll go to two locations.
The first location is really totalk about the kids, the
logistics pull out, maybe thephones out we're, we're talking
Speaker 1 (14:06):
About
Speaker 3 (14:08):
It.
It really is a business meeting.
And that's what we talk about.
And then we go to the secondplace and that it's no more
logistics is no more businessmeeting instead.
It's a couple connection.
Yes.
Do the kids get brought back up?
Yes.
Does do we end up talking aboutsomething budget related again?
Yes.
(14:28):
But at the end of it, but bigpicture, the first parts of
business meeting, the second,one's more about connection.
Where do we want to go?
What are we dreaming about?
What, how are you feeling now?
And it's just, it's, it's beenawesome.
We have absolutely loved doingit.
Yeah,
Speaker 1 (14:43):
No, that's great.
Awesome.
Well, switching gears a littlebit.
I know something that you'vebeen certified in.
I think its term is fivecapitals and it's something that
our church I'm connected tocrusher.
As they've mentioned ondifferent times, it's been a
part of, um, a life and eyes.
Uh, we do an annual retreat kindof looking at the next year and
we try to evaluate these fiveareas, but I just think it would
(15:05):
be super helpful for, for thecoaches because, um, I know
we're going to talk, you know,we've already talked about the
home side quite a bit, but I dothink there's this, there's this
lie that, um, if we, if we don'tgive a hundred percent of
ourselves to the bottom line,whether that's our win loss
record as a coach or as thebottom line of the financial
side on a, on a, as a businessleader, then somehow if it's
(15:26):
always like a, trade-off like ifyou can't have all the, all the
areas it's constantly, you know,you're going to be getting
behind or not winning the wayyou want it with your team or at
work, if, if you're not giving ahundred percent of that.
So we'll just love to hear, um,just an overview of the five
capitals and maybe how that'shelped you along the way.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Yeah.
Five capitals is a coachorganization that I am certified
through.
As you mentioned, one of the keyframeworks that they use is in
fact called the five capitals.
There's many other tools thatthey use.
But when I first learned thefive capitals, which was about
nine years to go, I mean, it wasa game changer.
And in my personal life, we talkabout with the family, as you
(16:08):
mentioned for you and your wife,but then also has a business
application, which we'll we'llhit on as I share it.
But the idea of the fivecapitals they're they're based
off different Bible verses, andI won't necessarily unpack all
those on this or even, and thenalso the parable of the talents
and a few other pieces.
But the five capitals is thisidea that there is this
(16:31):
different currency in Jesus.
In John 10, 10 says that, youknow, he's came to give life
life to the full, and this ideathat if we live these five
categories in that right order,then we can in fact have life to
the full.
The hard part is a lot of timeswe don't live in the right order
because the world tells us tolive them differently.
(16:51):
Our own flesh tells us to livethem differently.
So life can feel busy.
It can feel chaotic.
So the five capitals in theright order, the first one is
spiritual.
And it is about yourrelationship with God.
You know, if you're a coachyou're listening and you like
that idea of, of these fivecows, we talk about what I, what
(17:13):
I share a lot with the spiritualpiece is I've got atheist who
are clients and say, it'sspiritual.
And it's for a lot of us whobelieve in, in Jesus and God, it
is that it's our connectionthere.
But if you've got an atheist onyour team or someone you're
talking with, it's, it's just,it's a greater purpose.
Like what is life outside of youand your own self?
(17:35):
And, you know, Harvard businessreview did a study years ago
that all great ideas come fromthe shower.
And it's this idea that no one,no spouse's nagging, no phone is
ringing kids.
Aren't crying.
You're just sitting therethinking.
And that's that idea of, Hey,how are we growing in our
spiritual capital to spend moretime with God, spend more time
in the word.
If you're, if you have thatatheist on your team, how are
(17:57):
they spending any journalingtime?
Are they thinking, are theydoing reflective questions?
Why did they lose their temperon the field?
The other day, that idea is it'sthe spiritual capital.
And so it's growing in wisdomand power.
So that's the first one.
The second one is relational.
So, you know, at the firstcommand is to love God.
The second one is to loveothers.
(18:18):
Yeah.
It's a relational capitals bywho you're doing life with.
And so that's a spouse.
That's your kids.
That is your, your closefriends, maybe your teammates,
but it's who are you investingin?
And then who's investing in you.
And what's interesting about therelational is especially for the
men that are listening is ifwe're not careful, we've been so
(18:40):
absorbed in our career.
We've been so absorbed in thesports program or the company we
worked for that we've let go offriends.
And there are, I remember when Iwrote the book, when a home
first I came across, this quoteis super timely, but it was a,
uh, a quote slash kind of joke,but no one ever talks about
Jesus's greatest miracle.
(19:02):
And it's the fact that he hadthree close friends in his early
thirties, You know, cause that'sso true because we have great
friends and I school thencollege, and then we start our
families.
We start our careers.
And before we know we've said noto different friends.
And so that relational capitalis a huge one to make sure that
you're spending time withfriends with loved ones, because
(19:24):
I know you've had other guests,offices of Brian told him, he
talks a lot about the lone Wolfgets taken out.
And, and, and I totally agree.
And so for anybody listening tomake sure that it's not about
quality, I'm sorry, it's notabout quantity of friends.
It's about quality.
Like, are there people in yourlife you're having conversations
of depth with right now?
(19:44):
I'm just talking sports, notjust talking weather, but
conversation of depth,
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Right?
Yeah.
And someone, I would just wantto insert there real quick too.
I've noticed just in my ownlife, it was a lot of my
friendships were already kind ofready, made up through college
because you have roommates.
I was on a, I was on thebaseball team.
So you have that locker room,you have this core pool of
people you're already spending aton of time with.
(20:09):
And a lot of those relationshipsare kind of already architected
for you.
But like once you get out ofthat scenario, it happens in
both places too.
You don't have a set, you know,workout time that you have to be
there in the waiting room to gowork out with your team.
You got to figure that outyourself, you don't have this
set friend group that you'realready spending all this time
with and you have to go createthat.
(20:29):
And I think that's a hugeadjustment and probably part of
that reason.
But now that's, that's a greatpoint.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
So the third capital is physical and this is about
time and energy.
How are you managing yourschedule or is your schedule
managing you?
And what's interesting about thephysical capital is if we're not
careful, it, our schedules, youknow, control all of us, you
know, whether you're a corporateexecutive and it is the schedule
(20:57):
of, you know, I got the quarterscoming up, I got to make sure I
get everything done by year endor end of first quarter, or
you're a coach and it's herecomes a season or here's spring
training.
And then here's the season.
And we just say, you know, yesto everything.
And don't really think itthrough.
(21:19):
I had a mentor share with methat the quantity of our nose
will drive the quality of ouryeses.
So meaning, you know, dependingon how many times we say no to
different things, when we sayyes, we actually can in fact
show up, we can show up withexcitement.
We can show up and be presentand actually be present where
(21:39):
we're present.
And so that physical capital isa big one to make sure that
you're controlling yourschedule, whether it is, you
know, if it is sports season,then make sure you're saying no
to the stuff that's notcontributing to your top
priorities.
Save it for next time.
You know, there's a, the, thethought of, if you can't say
(21:59):
heck yeah, then say no.
And so if it does not align withyour purpose, if it does not
align with investing in thosearound you, then it's, it's
probably time to say no.
And maybe in a couple of monthsrevisit it.
Yeah.
And then physical capital is youcan't do anything if you don't
have the energy.
So it's taking care of yourbody.
What time you going to bed?
What time are you waking upputting the phone down and
(22:21):
actually just having some timeto let it to the brain slowed
down.
So that's this idea of thephysical capital.
The fourth one is intellectualcapital.
This is about insights andideas.
I'm bringing differentstrategies to the team, bringing
creativity to, to your work,whatever that could be.
And so that intellectual capitalwhat's interesting is, you know,
it's, it's down there forth.
A lot of times we are told itneeds to be at the highest.
(22:43):
Yeah.
But I, you know, I've heard itsaid before, like in the sports
world, what makes, you know,being an offensive or defensive
coordinator.
So challenging is once you showthat secret play is now known,
everyone knows the secret playand therefore it's not.
And that's why intellectualcapital can be down is because
information is free andavailable.
(23:04):
Thanks to Google, thanks tophones, grabbing videos, and
posting a play up on theinternet.
And so intellectual capital isimportant, but it's not as
important as a lot of us gettripped up thinking it is.
And then the fourth, the fifthcapital is financial capital,
which is, which is money.
And it's money is obviouslyimportant.
We we've got to steward ourresources well in a sports
(23:26):
department and a family and acompany, but it can't be the end
all be all.
If you are driven for profit, ifyou are driven for revenue
ticket sales out of the, youknow, the box, then there's
things you're going tosacrifice.
You're going to make poorchoices.
If you're, you're, you're gonnastart cutting costs because you
care about the bottom line.
(23:47):
And so it can get you trippedup.
So those are the five capitalsto live in that order, both as a
personal lens, which we can talkabout further as well as even a
company corporate lens.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
Yeah, no, that's really good.
And it just, I was just kind ofwriting them down and, uh, I, I
know I was aware of all five,but I think I had not heard the
order recently.
And what's interesting as I lookat this, you have spiritual,
relational, physical,intellectual money.
My general vibe from justAmerican society in general, it
(24:22):
might just be a perfect flip asfar as just like the general, uh
, our culture.
Like it's like money first.
And then you got to get it's allintellectual get degree stuff.
Then you got to get healthy.
And then there's kind of thisfriendship community is down
there too.
And then spiritual it's liketruth is kind of either it's
either just your truth orwhatever it might be, um, on
(24:42):
the, on the bottom rung there.
I just thought that wasinteresting that, you know, kind
of the, the way that, that God'skind of designed it to thrive is
, is, is really almost like aflip of a lot of the messages
that the world world sends us.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
That's absolutely right.
Nate, the world tells us to flipit in some of us.
I mean, this is a greatself-awareness tool for anyone
listening to, is to thinkthrough on your bad days, how
would you rank them?
You could the kind of thing, theacronym halt, you know, when,
when you're hungry, when you'reangry, when you're lonely, when
you're tired, there's a, wthere's the F or the capitals
(25:16):
that we lean into.
Like for me, on my worst day,it's financial, you know, guys,
some different financial tookkind of wounds from growing up
where my dad had a couple ofmoments of losing his job.
My mom had cancer theneventually passed away when I
went to college.
And so I had to get loans and Ijust, the devil comes after me
(25:41):
with the lie of, Hey, it's allon you.
Hey, you're on your own.
And so I'll hear that.
So even to, to, to this day, thedevil will try to use that same
lie.
Just have it look a littledifferently because I'm the sole
provider for our family.
So if I don't have enoughprospects coming in or speaking
engagements, I start to get allnervous.
And so financial becomes mynumber one on my bad days, which
(26:02):
leads to number two willintellectual.
That means I better consume morebooks.
I better listen to more podcastsbecause maybe I'm not getting
hired because I'm not the bestcoach ever, or I'm not the
smartest guy then.
So the third piece is physicalwhere I start just working all
the time, uh, because I'msending LinkedIn things, I'm
sending emails, I'm listening topodcasts, I'm working within the
fourth one.
If that doesn't, if that's notworking, then I'm going to see
(26:24):
my friends got any ideas.
And then the last one, if noneof that's working, I'll ask God
if he's got any ideas.
And so that can be how it is.
So from a self-awareness toolfor listeners to think through
how are you on your bad days,pay attention to that.
And then what can you do torecalibrate to get them in the
right order?
Yeah,
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Yeah, yeah.
That's so good.
Uh, whether it be, just be justa quick handle on that, like
yeah.
So evaluate the bad days.
And then what would be a goodfirst step for a coach?
Who's kind of hear this for thefirst time.
Uh, just for them to reflect it.
Is there any, is it just kind oflike, Hey, look at each five and
give them rank them from one to10 and kind of why, or, or how
would you might coach somebodyif they just kind of wanted to
(27:04):
do like a self-evaluation ofthese in their life?
Speaker 3 (27:07):
Yeah, absolutely.
So the first observation be, howwould you rank them on your bad
days to what does that order?
So what comes to the top?
Is it financial because you arethe sole provider, is it
intellectual because you werealways told growing up that
you're the smartest in theclass, and you still think that,
that you need to be the smartestin this, in the athletic
(27:29):
department and you still need tobe the smartest in the
conference like that still isplaying tricks on you.
Maybe it's physical, you alwayswere the best athlete and
physically, you could prettymuch kind of conquer anything
you go after.
And so you still got someidentity wrapped around your
physical ability.
And so just have some awarenessof what your, the worst one is
(27:50):
just so you can figure out howyou, how to conquer it.
And then the next one is takeeach of those five and just kind
of evaluate on a scale from zeroto 10, where would you rank
yourself?
I mean, I was spiritual.
Are you in the word daily?
Do you feel that you arespending time in solitude,
reading scripture, praying andreally just in reflective and
(28:11):
you may, it may be a season ofyour life.
You're like, actually, if I'mbeing honest, man, my spiritual
is pretty, is pretty weak.
I go to church, uh, you know,once a week or whatever that's
about it.
So if that's the case and let'slook to increase that
relational, where does that rank10 being your marriage is
thriving.
You got great engagementintention with your kids.
You got some good buddies youspend time with, maybe you in
(28:33):
fact, go on guide trips or awomen trips.
Like my wife is right now, or isthis a wake-up call?
And then the physical capitalone is, is your schedule
controlling you?
Are you skipping out on gyms?
Are you eating crud?
Because you're just at the mercyof your busy-ness, then maybe
that's the wake up call.
(28:53):
So those are just some of theideas Nate to kind of think
through.
But man, it's a, it's aframework that I look at a lot.
I, I, I know on my good days, mycapital in the right order, I
know on my bad days, I some gottripped up and it's a reflective
question I ask at the end ofevery week and what were my
capitals and what do I need todo to get the lower scored ones
(29:15):
better for next week?
Speaker 1 (29:16):
Right?
No, that's so good.
Yeah, for me, I think on my, onmy bad days, I think it ends up
being, um, I don't respond andtry to over-correct on the
physical, but I know like my, ifI get overly stressed or the
calendar is kind of controllingme, then I go to go to the
pantry and eat, eat some, eatsome junk, or get some chips or
whatever, kind of the short termthing.
(29:36):
Or I'm definitely guilty ofbeing, uh, embedded in my phone
when I know we need to get moresleep and then, you know, either
phone or Netflix or whateverthat is in that exact moment, it
feels like, oh man, we're kindof coping here, but I know we're
paying for it in the futuredays.
It's I just think it is.
It's just, it's a it's um, youknow, even as we're talking,
it's just a bit of a reminderfor me to be aware of those and,
(30:00):
and to not just kind of takethat, that short term feeling
of, of making it better, butactually just looking at the
whole picture.
And I th I think too, one of thethings I want to make sure we're
touching on is, uh, actually inthe early episodes of this
podcast, I didn't know you weregoing to eventually write a book
called when home first, but, uh,I would say it, the, my son
offline was keep growing, keeplearning and keep changing lives
(30:24):
on your team and in your home.
And I was thinking, as I wasthinking about that as like, I
just deeply believe that youcould win a ton of ball games
and transform lives or that abusiness guy can have incredible
profits and also truly careabout his employees and have
them having thriving lives.
But I do think there's this lieof, like, you can't have both,
(30:46):
and you're saying you you'veseen people when you even had
seasons of life potentiallywhere kind of all five capitals
or earn a healthy level.
I mean, is that even possible?
Because I feel like a lot of ourworld just says like, no, you
gotta, you gotta grind grind,grind on this one area and
everything else has to be tossedto the wayside to be successful.
I mean, w what would be yourresponse to somebody kind of
thinking that or feeling that
Speaker 3 (31:08):
100% is possible?
Absolutely.
Now within that a hundredpercent possible there's days
that it's going to get offtrack, there may be a week or
two that it gets off track andthat's okay.
Recalibrate come back.
I mean, if, if you're in themiddle of an intense sport
season or a four week run, andyou look at it, then it's a
(31:31):
conversation with your spouse,Hey, babe, busy, busy season.
This looks to be the great, youknow, the great run that we're
going to have as a team.
So, but on the other side ofthis, like, this is what Holly
and I have done over time isI've had busy travel schedule.
This is back when I was incorporate, and I can still have
busy travel schedules now, butwe will play in a staycation on
(31:53):
the back end.
So we, anytime you have a busyseason, look to bookend it with
some rest and relationship wherebefore you go in that busy
season, do some intentionality.
And then on the other side, dosome intention items.
So I think that, you know,that's just an idea of it.
Doesn't have to be, Hey, I gotthis new job at this new school.
(32:14):
I'll see you in five years,babe, because on the end, who
knows what that's gonna looklike?
Right?
So I think that's what was onething is if someone's listening,
it's like not every day is gonnabe perfect, but to know that you
can recalibrate, you can T youknow, make some changes.
And I think the big thing,whether you're a coach or you're
an executive is ideally thefamily is the team that you're
(32:39):
with forever, where we have allI'm guilty of it.
We've gone to the company or acoach has gone to the team and
you give your all, well, thenyou get fired.
And, you know, you have yourkind, your, your head down your
tail between your legs and yougo, and your family is kind of
in shrapnels cause you haven'tgiven them any intention.
(33:00):
And so the big thing that I workwith executives on, and so for
any listener to hear is, youknow, we can't give our all to
something that just views us astemporary.
We are the temporary coach.
We are the temporary executive.
We are the temporary.
It may be a long, amazingcareer, no doubt about it.
But when we take our identity tosomething that's temporary, and
(33:21):
then that goes away, we're awreck.
And so to put our job in theright place, that is not our
identity.
It doesn't get all of our yeses.
Instead.
We make sure we are investing inour kids, that we are being
intentional with them, takingthem, go get ice cream, sitting
on the couch and hanging outwith them with zero phone
(33:42):
nearby, throwing the ball withthem, like real intentionality.
Same thing with dates with ourspouse is real intention.
I, with our spouse, seeing howthey're doing, how is their job
going?
How's their, you know, careergoing and having real
conversations with them.
Because if we don't do that, ifwe don't put some discipline
(34:03):
intention around home, we infact will lose at home.
Great.
You had an, you were an amazingcoach.
Awesome.
Well, unfortunately there, yougot some shrapnel in your life
and that's what I want to avoidwith anyone I run into, because
unfortunately for me, I want towork for at different times
where I lost at home.
And my, my passion is to makesure that no one loses at work
(34:26):
and home again.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
No, that's great.
And it's super encouraging a toknow it's possible.
And to know you can just kind ofcompensate, you know, for those
high seasons.
Like my wife has, she has onemore month of high school
volleyball season, and thenthey're performing really well.
And, you know, they do a lot,but we ended up having an
unexpected move.
It was a really good thing, buta situation where we moved
houses, um, over the month ofAugust was kind of our closing
(34:50):
time while we were going to takeour 10 year anniversary trip in
there.
But we had to end up cancelingon that.
But right after her season, wehave a big FCA event on November
5th.
And then after that, we're goingto actually, it's going to be
delayed, but we're going to takethat, that, uh, that anniversary
trip after that to kind of bookin this really high season, uh,
for both of us.
So we kind of unintentionallyalready kind of followed that
(35:10):
advice.
And I was like, man, that makesa ton of sense.
Like there was going to be aweek where it, we did, we
recently had a week where it wassuper hard between volleyball,
FCA stuff.
We kind of have a, uh, a family,um, a funeral would be around
and, and it was just a really,really hard week.
But to know that there's, we'regoing to come up for air on
purpose, you know, a little bitlater, I think does take the
(35:31):
pressure off of everyday havingto be perfect, but just look at
the whole corner of the wholeyear, the whole season, and are
already managing that as well.
Yeah.
Super helpful.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
And I love that example, Nate, because what ends
up happening, whether you're anexecutive or you're a coach,
you've got a plan for your team.
Like these are the practiceswe're going to have this.
We're going to be doing onMonday, Wednesday, Fridays with
trains going to look like theseare the different drills.
We'll do this with Tuesdays andThursdays look like, then we've
got our games and we travelhere, we're home here and we've
(36:00):
got it all laid out.
But then we go look at ourfamily schedule or our family
plan.
We wing it.
We've got no idea.
I'll figure that out later, butyou took attention.
I say, Hey, we've got a busyseason.
We want to put something on theback end of that.
And I think that's the big thingis we often are guilty of
winging it home, but given allof our strategies, all of our
(36:21):
creativity, all of ourintentionality to work and we
just kind of think we can get byat home and it doesn't work.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
Yeah.
I don't, I, I I'm.
Yeah.
I came from some trial and errorto just going back to the date
night just for a second is Ididn't trust myself for those to
happen unless I put them in thecalendar.
So I just have a, it's literallyin our Google calendar for
every, or week on Thursdays, Ithink it is, or Wednesdays or in
Bible season, like until Jesuscomes back, like there's no end
date on that to where I at leasthave to deal with that.
(36:49):
Each time that comes up on mycalendar, even if we can't do
that night, I'm always trying tofigure out like, where can we
move that?
Or how else, you know, okay,well, we did this whole thing.
This, we went to a weddingtogether and it had some good
stuff and coffee after whatever.
So that kind of counts.
So I'm always having to dealwith it when I put it on.
I just go ahead and put it inthere first.
Um, then I know it's going tohappen because without it, I
just know I'm not going to wingit.
(37:09):
Well, I don't trust myself.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
I mean, it's the rocks in the jar.
We all have heard, seen that adifferent metaphor where those
are the non-negotiables get thenon-negotiables in the calendar
and it's amazing how everythingelse still kind of falls into
place.
But if you don't get those rocksin, they don't happen.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
Yeah.
That's good.
Well, Corey, thank you so muchfor, for bringing it today, man.
It's just a super, superappreciative of your time.
Uh, if people want to connectwith you or kind of see some of
your content or get in touchwith you, how would you, where
would you direct them?
Speaker 3 (37:45):
Well, I appreciate the nice plug on social media.
Sometimes it feels like a blackhole at times where you're just
putting stuff out there and younever know what's going to
happen, but yeah, at CarlsonCorey on everything, LinkedIn is
definitely where I hang out themost.
Um, but yet, and then I alsohave a website, Corey M
carlson.com.
You can go there.
I send out a weekly email toleaders and sharing information
(38:07):
that, um, I'm learning as wellas what's going on with clients.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
Well, if I'd have been in better podcast status, I
would have already read the oneat home first, but a book.
But I did go ahead and orderthat this morning off Amazon.
So I've looked forward togetting that this weekend, I'll
be diving in, uh, and, andseeing what all is in there.
But I know you've had a, um, alot of, a lot of good feedback
from that.
So thank you for putting allthat time and effort into
putting that together.
I know getting a book out is noteasily done.
(38:33):
So thanks for pushing through.
I know it's a blessing to manyand uh, just this podcast today,
hopefully it's been helpful andpeople can, people can grow from
it.
So I appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (38:42):
Yeah.
Well, thanks for ordering thebook.
Yeah.
The book is on Amazon.
It's also audible.
You can hear my voice, do theaudible.
So for those that listen to it,but yeah, I mean, I'm grateful
for the book and it's, it hasimpacted folks and it's really
just sharing tools in my owntestimony that I'm wanting to
get out there.
So, yeah.
Thanks Nate, for getting thebook and having me on here
today.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
We'll see it
Speaker 2 (39:11):
[inaudible]
Speaker 1 (39:12):
All right, everybody.
That was our conversation withCorey Carlson.
So grateful.
He was able to come on the showand share some wisdom with us
today.
If you want to go a little bitdeeper or for more information
on this podcast, you can go to NK Y fca.org/podcast to see
previous episodes.
And you can also check out ourblog for the show notes as well
(39:34):
while you're on there.
One other favor we'd like to askis just to share this episode
with at least one person in yourlife that you think it might be
helpful to.
If it's been valuable to you andserve you well, please don't
keep that to yourself.
Pass it along to, to a friend,maybe even in the coaching
network, uh, of, of your own.
And we would just want to servemore people.
That will be a, be a great wayto help us do that.
(39:56):
One takeaway that I need to lookat myself is to do that five
capitals evaluation.
It has been a while since I'velooked at it personally, but
just look at those five areasand take a quick account and
reflect a little bit and justsee where you're at scale of one
to 10 on those areas.
And then where do you go onthose bad days as well, taking,
just trying to apply.
(40:16):
What was it, what was even said?
The information is out there.
Our heart is to truly serve youand to help you grow to be all
that God's called you to be.
So I'll, I'll do the throwbacksign-off line, keep growing,
keep learning and keep changinglives on your team and in your
home.
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