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Nick (00:05):
It's time to get fucking
authentic. Well, hey, it's a
beautiful morning that we'reactually here recording this
time.
Nancy (00:13):
Yes, welcome back.
Nick (00:14):
And we woke up after a
pretty intense sort of Podcast,
episode number three of ourstory, we were going to, you
know, just keep going on aboutour story. And we, I don't know,
I don't know if you guys realizethat at the end of the last
episode from sort of like threequarters of the way through to
the end of it. I think it gotpretty real for us. Yeah. It's
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amazing how you go through thesethings, and you don't, when you
really start taking intoaccount, things that happen in
your life, especially for us ornot, especially for us, but I'm
saying like it could happen,everyone in general. Yes. Is
like, Man, I really don't thinkthat we all give ourselves
enough credit. No, we don't forthe shit that we go through in
our lives. I'm talking aboutpeople who feel like they really
haven't maybe they have a greatfucking life. But you still go
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through things that I don'tthink we realize, have such a
massive effect on us.
Nancy (01:05):
Well, and that's what
we're saying. It's like, you
just go through the motions,just surviving your robots.
Yeah. I mean, we're just, we'rejust moving along, man.
Nick (01:13):
And then that's disguised
as survival. Right? So it's
disguised as survival. So we'rejust doing it. It wasn't like we
had a roadmap. You can plan. Andthat's the whole thing about
this, right? You could planwhatever you want. I don't give
a fuck who you are. If you'resaying that you think you got it
together? And you're doing it?
That's fine. You do, I'm sure atthe point. Now, you got it
together. But I guarantee you,it's gonna fucking change. It's
just different things thathappen in life in general. And
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I'm so fucking happy. I will saythis again. And I tell you this,
and I'm going to tell you thisin front of everybody. I'm so
happy that I have you next to meto fucking do this shit. Like,
the well who? Oh, I'm
Unknown (01:49):
sorry. Who am
Nick (01:50):
I talking to? No, no, I
mean, like, there's somebody
else. And now you're freaking meout? Like that's a moat? Like
some weird shit. Who's you know,
Nancy (01:56):
I didn't know if you were
just talking in general. No, I
don't I feel the same way. Wehave this formula. And again, is
it the perfect formula? No, no,not at all. But it's a formula.
And we never sat down and evencreated that formula. One of the
biggest things is is that westarted, we had all this stuff,
right? And then stuff. We lostall of it. Yeah, exactly. Stuff
stuff. And to me, it's justcrazy how, as an individual
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things happen throughout yourlife. And it's what you do with
it. Just because it happeneddoesn't mean that it's the end
all.
Nick (02:25):
Yeah, well, fuck, man. If
that was the case, then we would
have, we wouldn't have evenlasted a year. Because on the
ship from the beginning of us,you know, meeting and getting
together, there were obstaclessince day fucking one. So if
that was the case, then we wouldhave been washed up a long time
ago. And I think that part ofthe reason why we're not going
on right now about our story, wewant to just sort of come on
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here and just talk a little bitabout those vulnerabilities and
how you feel because right afterthat episode, we listened to it
like we always do, and youbecame a little, there were some
things that you really didn'twant to talk about. There were
some things but
Nancy (03:01):
it's a lot that's
happened that, you know, I feel
that no one's business, butours. You know, the more I think
about it, we've talked to a lotof people. And a lot of people
know our stories, our story,everything, you know, that's
gone, obviously encouragementfor us to correct yes, but when
you are putting it out there forso many people to listen, it's,
it's a real active anymore. No,it wasn't Yeah, I can only
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imagine, you know, we wereasking people to tell their
stories to us. Wow, that, youknow, we get it, we're putting
ourselves out there. And we wantpeople to put themselves out
there. But the freedom, likeit's just, I don't even know how
to explain it. But it's just,it's just,
Nick (03:37):
I think the freedom has to
do with validation as well,
though. I think for a long timefor us. We've told our story to
people and people are alwaysintrigued and want to know more.
I think though, the freedom is100%. You got that your your
fucking point on with that. Ithink the freedom though, what
this does is it validates who weare and what we've gone through.
And we're not looking foraccolades or whatever. But
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there's things that you've said,and I'm sure I've said, but I
will tell you right now, that tobe honest with you, I never even
realized was was in you. Likeyou don't I mean? Like, I mean,
I know it's in you, right? Likeyou've never express Will you
Nancy (04:13):
always have you express
everything. And I'm always the
one that just kind of, you know,
Nick (04:17):
well, but that's part of
the formula. Right? That's
that's what we've, that's theway we've always been, again,
it's sort of that, again, we'lltalk about like less, I'm like,
I have the vision. And you're inthe background sort of
manipulating that vision, whichis awesome. I mean, that's,
that's, that's what makes itwork. Yeah, definitely. I think
though, the biggest part of thisis what became our vulnerability
is really putting this outthere, which we knew we had to
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do. And one of the things that Iwant to say, especially when you
talk about people telling theirstory, and I spoken with a
couple people already becausewe're consistently trying to get
people on to tell their story.
After we've gone through hourshere a few series and there's
two young ladies and inparticular, one of them was just
such an unbelievable soul likethis, this, this chair It was
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just just well beyond her years,I think she was like 22 or 23
years old and had such apositive story. And I wanted to
know more like it drew me in,like, I wanted to know more, she
wrote me back and said, Look,you know, I appreciate that
you'd like to, you know, to hearmy story. And, but basically
that, that she wasn't ready forthat. She wasn't ready to tell
her story, because, you know,her story is not over. And of
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course, I respect that. 100%Yeah, totally. Because
everybody's at a point in theirlives, where we're not here to
try and force anybody to doanything. One thing it did make
me realize is that, wow, even inthe midst of recovering, or
going through what you're goingthrough, people feel that, that
that has no meaning. And itdoes, it's huge. Because even in
the midst of the struggle ofwhat you're going through, just
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saying that alone. And peoplehearing that there are people
like you that are still goingthrough it, whatever your story
is, whether you're getting overa divorce, or recovery from
addiction or being abused,whatever the case is, when a
book is written, the story isthe book, right? It's not just
the ending, right at the ending,you're dead. And if you're dead,
then you can't tell the story.
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But the story involves thestruggles that are happening
every day, right? And you maynot be over what is going on.
But that's still part of thestory. And although I respect
this girl, 100% I just thoughtof that. I was like, Man, I
hope. And I encourage people tohave enough courage. And to
realize that telling your storythere, you could just tell us a
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moment in your story, right?
That was like an aha moment.
That is part of our steppingstone that's happening on that
journey. Just like we're talkingnow. Our past, right, and we're
talking about, we're going toobviously talk about our future
in the present is what reallymatters. But, you know, there's
been a couple of people, like Isaid, who are afraid to do that.
And that's where, you know, evenyou after that last episode, the
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vulnerability, and it wasn'tabout you being afraid. No, it
wasn't about people hearingabout it. But we all have a
trepidation, right. And we alltry to say the right word or so
that we're not hurting someoneor so that when and the bottom
line is, if somebody takes itthat way, this is just freedom
for you. Right. And I think thatthis goes into a whole nother
thing of taking care ofyourself, yes, and your own
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sanity, and your own well beingright. And what we do is, and
this is why I say over time welose part of ourself, is that we
then become servants toeverybody else and everybody
else's emotions. And we stoptaking care of ourselves
Nancy (07:22):
about me, right? What
about me? I was gonna see the
song. And I'm like,
Nick (07:28):
song for everything, too.
It's hilarious. And the funnypart of it is, she doesn't even
have the words, right. But shejust has the melody in her head,
which is awesome. We wanted totalk about that a little bit
today, because it was importantfor us to, to just get it out
there to get it off our chest,which is freedom as well,
Nancy (07:42):
definitely. And then
like, you know, we were talking
I mean, I felt like, wow, thisis how our audience, you know,
whoever is gonna tell us a storyis going to feel at that moment
for so I really, I really feltit. I was like, wow, this is
crazy. You know what I mean? Butit does feel good. And it's it's
a, like you said, I have tothink about myself,
Nick (07:59):
there's nothing to hold on
to anymore, right? And in this
life, there's just nothing tohold on to. If if we can't go
through what we go through andexperience what we experienced,
whether it's success or failureor anything. If we can't
candidly speak about that, orjust talk about it. Look, your
perfect example is when weinterviewed, you know, my mom,
and her biggest thing was, youknow, Oh, you don't understand.
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I have, you know, friends onFacebook, I have a lot of people
who don't know me this way blabla bla, and I thought to
myself, and I told her straightout. I said, Wait a second.
Like, isn't that what we'redoing here? Like being
vulnerable, and opening up andtalking about what this is? And
if those people don't respectyou for, for coming out of all
of that, and being a completelydifferent person, and actually
learning lessons from it, andbuilding a better you than fuck
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them? Right? I mean, that's theway that you want people like
that. Why then there, first ofall, their Facebook friends.
Right, exactly. I mean, right?
Number one? Yes, there arepeople you know, and yes, there
gonna be people that you know,personally, but I'm just saying,
like, if you had 1000 followers,and 998 of them stop following
you, because you were an assholewhen? 40 years ago, right?
Something and now you're acompletely different person, and
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you are absolutely killing it.
Nancy (09:10):
Fuck them. Yeah. And
you're happier for it too. Well,
right, like,
Nick (09:13):
you're just so here's what
they fucking know, you are a
better person. So I just thinkthat that's, you know, part of,
you know, this whole thing fromus to you, is that, you know, we
were doing this because we dowant to share experiences. This
is not at all a time or a placeto judge or to cause criticism
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to anybody or anything. When wetalk about, you know, when I say
my son, or whatever, it's funny,because I listened back to some
of these episodes, and I'm like,wow, I seem very selfish or
whatever. But the reality is it.
Those are my feelings. Thosearen't what I'm thinking at the
time. And part of our formulalike Nancy said, Well, we've
pointedly, I don't want to saybeen blamed, but it's been
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brought to our attentionpointedly that you You don't
have a voice? Yes. It's beensaid, Yeah, seven times. So it's
not that you don't have a voice,right? It's just that you choose
to speak when you want tofucking speak whether you feel
it's relevant or not. I choosewhen
Nancy (10:11):
I want to use my voice.
And I just, you could justfucking talk.
Nick (10:17):
Well, this is like the
fucking energises the perfect,
Nancy (10:20):
right. Yeah. I mean, you
talked the most from the podcast
than I do. I just kind of,
Nick (10:23):
but it's like the what do
they call that? That magic show?
Oh, the guy that doesn't speak.
I didn't tell what was that.
It's like, that's just like areally like, it's funny, but
it's true. It is like, I don'tknow what to say. But I will
tell you and I think I've saidthis before, when you do have
something to say somebody betterstop and fucking listen. Because
it's, that's some true shitcoming really from within from
within me. Yes. So anyway, wejust wanted to do this sort of
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shorter episode here. But wewanted to let you guys know that
we appreciate 100% Anybody whocomes on here and listens to
what we have to say, becauseultimately it is just us sharing
or rambling on about whathappened to us in the past. And
we hope that that helps out. Andour story's not over. No. Like,
we're in the middle of like,look, we're in the middle. This
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is just a whole new chapter forus, as well. And we're just in
the middle of our fucking book.
So we want to encourage peoplethat more we understand. Well,
this is I think, like we said,Yesterday, it was funny, we were
on a bike ride, and we weredoing our thing, and we were
Wisconsin, and we just werealways talking. We're always
talking. One thing I said isthat what this is doing, is not
teaching me about you. Or youabout me anymore, because we
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know that right? What this isdoing is this is man, we're
growing up right now. Learningabout life together, right? Even
after 34 years. It's crazy. Andthat's that's fucking
incredible. Yeah, it's awesome.
And here you think that youthink that you know everything
or you've experiencedeverything? Whatever. Shit?
Yeah, you just there's so muchit's such a journey in the
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fucking adventure is real inlife is just so full of fucking
ups and downs. Like I don't evenknow how to explain it. I just
feel and one encourage you guysto just share your moments. Be
in the moment. Take everythingas it comes. Don't take life so
fucking seriously, becausebelieve me trust me when I tell
you man, the shits gonna quitwhat do you say? This too shall
pass he she says but believe meshe says it all the time all the
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time. But I'm telling youbecause I'm just jogging her
memory. But that's one of herfamous things this too shall
pass like you got to just keepfucking moving forward we talked
about this is what we've doneour whole relationship.
Definitely. So anyway, wanted tocome on sort of talking about
that a little bit. Hope you guysare enjoying what's going on?
And we want you guys just tokeep just keep fucking fighting
forward. people that enjoy yourjourney. Create new adventures.
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Keep fucking going by