September 13, 2023 • 38 mins
Join us as we challenge the traditional notions of achievement and instead, encourage everyone to embrace the unique path to a fulfilling life. In this episode, we explore the fluctuating nature of progress as we talk to a real-live millennial who happens to also be one of our favorite podcast hosts, Gabby Ianniello, from the Corporate Quitter Podcast.
We reflect on the idea of transitioning from a structured corporate job to a life brimming with variety and creativity and Gabby’s realization that rigid schedules and ceaseless productivity were affecting her well-being. Once fixated on maximum productivity, she now treasures connections, joy, and personal fulfillment.
This discussion touches upon the pressures to adhere to conventional educational and career paths and the courage it takes to diverge from expectations. We discuss the fluctuating nature of progress and how it is embraced by our different generations.
Gabby talks about how her structured yet spontaneous approach to her days fosters creativity and better results. When the true cost of conformity is revealed, we reach an understanding that personal and creative fulfillment can outweigh financial gains. We invite you to reflect on your definition of success and to prioritize joy, connection, and f*ing authenticity on your journey to self-discovery.
Timeline Summary:
[01:04] How Gabby went from teaching to finance to building her brand
[03:19] The meditation retreat that re-sparked Gabby’s spirit
[04:46] Where the “F*ck it” energy came from?
[05:44] Why structure caused Gabby intense anxiety in college
[07:15] How Gabby finally silenced the “squirrels” in her brain
[11:20] Gabby’s advice on breaking conditioning for older generations
[15:49] Gabby’s definition of success in business and life
[21:41] Toxic school system pushing out burnt out teachers like Gabby
[22:49] Exposure to possibilities through the internet
[24:45] It’s not knowledge we need - it’s deprogramming
[27:35] Failing enough times makes you invincible
[30:43] Overcoming deep relationship rejection
[34:10] What’s next for Gabby
Connect with Gabriel Ianniello:
Gabby’s consulting agency: SheLikesToGab.com
Corporate Quitter: corporatequitter.com
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Nick (00:05):
We unintentionally gave up. Over time we let ourselves
down. We didn't teach or respectthe struggle. Our value
disappeared over time replacedwith masks disguised as truth. I
mean, our words became empty andour presence became obsolete.
(00:26):
Now we face our biggeststruggle, and it's time to rip
the masks off. More than ever,it's time to return to our true
selves. Our real identity. It'stime to be fucking offensive. We
haven't invited and we are sofreaking actually fucking
(00:47):
excited. Because Gabrielle, wewere gonna have you do this
podcast worked for us like acouple of years ago before
COVID.
Gabby Ianniello (00:55):
Like literally two years ago.
Unknown (00:56):
Yeah, two years ago.
Nick (00:57):
Oh two? Wow. Yeah. Wow.
We've obviously followed yourjourney. You're fucking crazy.
And we said,
Gabby Ianniello (01:04):
I'm still I'm glad you're still around,
honestly, because some peoplewere like, Yo, after the feed
pick thing. No, no, no, no, no.
Nick (01:13):
No, not at all. We really liked you a lot. The thing was,
is that we felt bad because weweren't in a place to do what
we're doing now. So we didn'twant you were just really
getting started. We didn't wantto, like lead you on and get all
fucked up. And then you're feellike you're a piece of shit.
Because nobody wanted to go withyou.
Unknown (01:30):
I can't imagine that she could feel that way. No.
Nick (01:35):
But no, seriously, so obviously, you've done fucking
awesome things. And we've seenit the whole time. sort of feel
like little creepers watchingyou. But I mean, that's what you
do. But we just want to go on sowe want you just sort of bust
loose and just tell us corporatequitter. I know you're moving on
to a lot of different things.
But where the fuck did you evencome from?
Nancy (01:56):
Like, what? How did it like? Yeah, it's
Gabby Ianniello (01:59):
interesting, because when I backtrack my
story, I'm still like, What thefuck? How did I even get here?
Because I was told to go thetraditional path and be a
teacher. And I did all that. Andthen after graduation, I was
like, fuck this, I can't makeany money. This sucks. Like I'm
stuck in a system. I don't wantto do this. And so naturally,
I've always been pivoting anddoing something different. So
went into Wall Street for alittle bit right to make some
(02:20):
money, pay off my student loanskind of went to New York and
played a little bit andfrolicked in the borough's and
then you know, lo and behold, acouple years later decided to
quit hence why corporate quitterwas born. But I mean, ever since
then, I've just been pivotingand trying things differently.
Because if you go thetraditional route, you always
get fucked, like you alwaysdefunct, you know, it just never
made sense for me to do the 510year plan, like ever. And also,
(02:42):
my life changes so quickly,because as you guys know, I kind
of like just go with the flowliterally every single day,
which is both amazing andchaotic at the same time. Right.
Corporate quitter was born inMay of 2021. And since then,
it's just been like a rocketship launch, like I'm just
holding on for dear life. Andnow I feel like it could finally
breathe a little bit. But itcame so quickly. And I wasn't
(03:02):
expecting it. Like I think a lotof people talk about, oh, it
takes 10 years of working onsomething specifically to make,
you know, some sort of explosionhappen or whatever. And a lot of
that did take a lot of effortright beforehand of learning,
self worth, and all the crazythings that I had to do. I have
plenty of stories that I haven'teven shared on social, right,
right, naked women's retreatsand this shroom trip and just
like wild things
Nick (03:24):
is wasn't true as well being lovely. They
Gabby Ianniello (03:26):
were they were separate because I think that
would have been a little. ButI'm sure it's on my docket at
some point to combine the twobecause there's something to be
said about doing both of thosethings and having an ego death
experience in multiple facetswhen I quit. It wasn't the
craziest thing I've donecrazier. I started this in May
2021. Didn't really know what Iwas going to do how to plan was
like, I'm gonna make it vague.
Like I'll figure it out as I go.
(03:48):
And it's funny because whenaround the time that you and I
met was when my New York Timesarticle came out. And that's
when things just launched therocketship just launched like I
was already going viral a fewmonths in Yeah, because of the
great resignation and somehowintuitively I knew the timing
was going to be good which iswild to begin with. But So ever
since then, it's just been likejust insanity between media
tours and brand deals and I dida documentary and just like just
(04:11):
madness and it's also been ashitshow as you guys have seen
it's been both amazing and alsoabsolutely fucking terrifying
and just everything burning andyou're
Nick (04:20):
hilarious you say online you're fucking pumped or
whatever and then the next dayyou're just like but that's the
realness right? That's thefucking shit when you said that
people say it's going to take 10years so first of all, I just
want to say give yourself somefucking credit right because
awesome you bust ass and thatright there alone you have to be
(04:43):
able to take the nose with theYaz with the as what the fuck
knows what the Yeah, the knowswhat the yes is and whatever and
I think that's part of the wholething with you that we've
followed and seen. Where did youget that?
Gabby Ianniello (04:58):
The pizzazz or like the fucking Energy like,
yeah, so it's like you
Nancy (05:01):
don't give up. Like, this is not working. So you're gonna
go this way, or you're gonna youknow what I mean? Like, you're
down one day. And obviously, youmust be up a lot because you're
doing your shit. You're doingit. And you're a millennial, I
think,
Gabby Ianniello (05:16):
right? Yeah. 93 baby, and I just turned 30. So
Yeah.
Nancy (05:20):
Where's that coming from?
Is it coming? Like
Nick (05:23):
you learn from your parents? Some things? Yeah, we
can get some of that from ourparents. But ultimately, you
have made the decision, right?
It's all about our choice. It'sabout our fucking decisions. So
you've ultimately made thedecision to do what you're
doing. And I'm sure people havetold you you're fucking crazy.
This is Oh, yeah, you know,especially being I mean, shipped
when
Gabby Ianniello (05:44):
we were first married. Both of you like even
your business. The fact that youeven have a business is fucking
crazy. Yeah, notice, you knowwhat I mean? Like, it's insane.
Like, think about the percentageof people who just are like
following the man, like taking apaycheck. Oh, yeah. We're also
like, within that realm ofsparkly people who are doing
shit and like, just go on withit. Yeah.
Nick (06:02):
I'm gonna do my fucking eyes like y'all. Y'all gotta see
your eyes right now. She's fieldshe has her eyes are literally
like, balls like pearls on thepearl earrings. It's fucking
awesome. So no, seriously, wheredid what do you attribute a lot
of that to?
Gabby Ianniello (06:20):
I think I've always had a bit of a not a
sparkly nose. So when I wasyounger, I definitely had a
personality like I won, likewhen I was like a toddler. Like
I wanted the personalitycontests like at a you know, a
show or whatever, like a pageantwhen I was like two or
something. But then I feel likebetween the ages of like 10 And
you know, kind of being a highschooler that spark leanness
went away because responsibilitywas taken on. So I'm the oldest
(06:41):
daughter and I have a brotherwho's 10 years younger. So I
feel like oh, that dissipated alittle bit. So I had become
like, second mom. And also myparents are entrepreneurs. So
they were building a business atthe same time. So it was just
like, a lot of chaos amidst the2008 crash and all that. So I
actually lost the spark leannessfor like a good decade, if not
longer, and I I rememberspecifically feeling like that
(07:02):
spark leanness come back after Iwent on a 10 day silent
meditation retreat that I had noidea what I signed up for. And
because of that, but then, youknow, the first three days, all
I was doing was like, runningrampant in my head. Right, the
squirrels in my brain were justrunning. And then by like, the
fourth day was just silence. Andthen from then on, it was just
like bliss. Like by the finaldays, I felt like I was almost
hallucinating because thingswere just so crystal clear, like
(07:23):
I could almost seemed like,outside the matrix, like things
didn't faze me quite the same,like the Fuckit mode really
turned on. Because I realized,oh, wait, I'm in the present.
And this is where life is. Andthis is where the joy comes
from. Not looking in the past,and a lot of people are not
looking in the future, which isagain, where like the sparkliest
comes in because when I evenlook at my current reality, I'm
back living at my parents. Andlike I had, at one point, things
(07:45):
were so bad, I had to take outmy 401k early and Okay, that's
great. That's terrible. But I'vealso made 30 grand and brand
deals. So like when you and thatdoesn't happen for most people,
especially within the firstcouple. So I mean, there are
flip sides to both things. It'sjust really a perspective shift.
And also, I look at things asthe long term game. So like, I
know, in the two years that I'vebeen doing this, when you look
(08:05):
at like those, let's say biggerpieces, like Oh, I haven't hit
six figures, and like, I spentmore than I made and blah, blah,
blah, it looks like I'm losing.
But I also know I'm setting upsuccess for the future. And that
was the same thing for the 10day silent meditation, retreat,
the shrooms thing, likeliterally so many other things
that I've done that are justlike out of just crazy, like
saying yes to trips, and justthings that I've no place being
but it ultimately was like athing that I need to go through
(08:27):
to get me to my next life,essentially.
Nick (08:31):
So that's pretty cool.
Because you and I are probablylike, almost aligned the same
when it comes to like just beingall over the place. We can take
that and we can put it in theright direction. But my question
would be half the time. So firstof all, you're young. Right?
When you were young, I gotplenty of time. So I'm saying
even when you weren't a tree,you were young, right? So so to
even come to a point where youwant to make that decision to
(08:53):
even change or to even do thatis fucking awesome. Number one.
Number two, your mind like ahamster wheel, right? Your mind
is just going round and roundRound Round. So you get to this
retreat, because I'm going to bea little selfish now. And I'm
going to ask this for myself.
Like, let's have a littleconversation here. How are you
even to sort of break out ofthat hamster wheel, right?
(09:15):
Because I know it's a retreat,and I know, so you're in a
position where a lot of peopleare doing the same thing. And
you know what I'm saying you canprobably get into that mindset,
maybe a little, but that'sfucking heart silent. That's
fucking hard to silence the shitthat going on in your mind.
Gabby Ianniello (09:30):
I did not know what I signed up for, like at
all. And honestly, I wanted tobail multiple times. But I was
the driver for a group of peoplewho were women. I was the only
woman and I was the driver. So Icouldn't even get to my guy
friends who I drove so I'm gonnaleave and come back in 10 days
to get them It didn't have cellphone. I didn't have to nothing
like no communication period. Soit was like I literally can't
(09:53):
leave like God universe,whatever this in this moment.
Like I had to be there andsuffer through it.
Nick (09:59):
That was the universe like they were pushing you into that
time, that was your time to dothat, which is awesome. Would
you suggest that to people,
Gabby Ianniello (10:06):
whenever I talk to people like, and the thing
too, it's free, the one that Iwent to free, they feed you for
free, it's donation basis, everyso often I'll like throw money
to them because I still respectthe organization. And one day
I'll go back and do it again,when I'm ready for that sort of,
kind of, you know, major upleveling and that sort that's a
bit gentle than like somethinglike an Ayahuasca where you're
puking and shitting your bangsout, which I don't know if I'll
(10:26):
be able to handle that.
Nancy (10:30):
Yeah. Yeah,
Gabby Ianniello (10:34):
but I will say you are going to change when you
leave. So for context, whenbasically, I came back from
their treat, I quit my nannyingjob and got my real estate
license and was starting thatwithin a month. So that was like
my official like, I don't give afuck, like Yeah, so once I had
that clarity, I was just like,go. And so since then, I've kind
of had similar experiences thatlead me to that place of like,
(10:55):
once we dissolve the ego and thefear and the judgment, we just
go for whatever's next for us.
And I mean, I land on my feet,it sucks, because a lot of times
those initial breakthroughs leadto like literally, like skate
like, teeth dragging on thepavement moments. Yeah. But then
I always end up doing better.
You know,
Nick (11:10):
I keep going back to the young thing, because it does
matter, right? It's people thinkthat, Oh, I'm old, I can't do
that shit or whatever. Andthat's just such a fucking
mindfuck. Right? That's justsuch a lie that people are
telling themselves. What kind oflike advice would you give? And
I, I seriously, I'm going totell you right now, I love the
fact that I'm asking you ayounger person about advice,
(11:34):
because I think that's No,seriously, like, that's another
thing that people don't realize,like, my generation, acting
like, I'm some old fuck, whichI'm not old, generation up. But
my generation is like, you know,we fucking know everything. And
you're not going to tell meanything. And it's like, I was
brought up, you know, respectyour elders, and whatever they
say is right, and blah, blah,blah. And it's just, fuck, it's
(11:58):
just not like that anymore. Likefor, first of all, what it is
that we're all human. And we alllearn at different fucking
levels. And people don't realizethat. And so if you can't
realize that, or accept the factthat we are just human, and you
may know way more than I do, orat least in your space, you may
know more than I do. What advicedo you think you would give to a
(12:19):
person of the older generationabout that? We say corporate
quitting, and people take itaway. Oh, that's a bad thing.
You quit your job.
Nancy (12:26):
So where were you working? When you did that,
though? I was
Gabby Ianniello (12:29):
in like the stuffiness environment. So I was
in asset management down on WallStreet. So yeah, I was an
assistant. And luckily, I gotpromoted. I was well respected
in my industry and got promotedto being a marketing coordinator
within our real estate sectorbefore I was kind of in the
forex trading world like theBloomberg terminal people kind
of going at it that I gotbasically promoted as the
pandemic hit. So being in realestate during that time is not
(12:52):
ideal. It was just a crash. Itwas terrible. But it led me to
quit. It was great, ya know? Sowhat
Nick (12:57):
kind of because yeah, we were doing real estate back in
2008. When the fucking recessionhit? Yes. So we totally can't
even imagine I'm saying it's sofucked up. Because we took we
there was nothing for sale.
Right? Everything was rentals.
We took all those developmentsand all those condos, the GSEs
were fucked because they wereselling, trying to sell condos
(13:18):
when nobody was buying. So theyliterally were turning these
buildings into rental essence.
Yeah, you know what I mean? Soanyway, so we were there. But
what do you tell someone, anolder person that is just fucked
up right now and has had it oris trying to think about moving
into a different, and this isn'tjust about corporate quitting?
This is about anything in life.
(13:38):
We talked about giving up like,it's a good thing. I'm not even.
Nancy (13:44):
Yeah, I think with with the older generation, it's
always all those millennials.
You know, they think that theydon't have to work you know,
and, and I think they alwaysjust think they're not working
from nine to five. You know whatI mean? That, but you are
working? You work? Oh, yeah.
Harder than a nine to five. Youdon't? Yeah. But it's like, oh,
they just want to sit home andjust, you know, play their games
(14:06):
and do something on the side doa computer. I just don't think
it's like that anymore. You knowwhat I mean? Or I don't like
well,
Nick (14:12):
maybe. Okay, let's talk about that for a second. We'll
get back to what the advice is.
But what is your day like? Like?
So what is it for you like that?
Because you are all over theplace. But you obviously are
still happy? I mean, you'reobviously still doing what the
fuck you want to do?
Gabby Ianniello (14:29):
Yeah, I mean, so my days vary, which I prefer.
And that's why when I was anassistant on Wall Street, I was
thriving because even though Ididn't show up to the same place
every day and do the commute,which I fucking hated, but I
love it every single day wasdifferent. So I structure my
days the same way. They're notinstructed, but of course, I
have calls and things that Ihave to do and I have client
work that have deliverables oncertain days that I have to
(14:50):
meet. But I mean, everything isvery flowy. So it's, you know, I
have to make sure things areposted at a certain time and
whatever but I mean, like today,I woke up in the morning for a
cup of coffee did some work inthe morning. And that was like,
Oh, I feel like painting forthree hours. And so I painted
and dance around and like didsome baking like, whatever. But
I mean, like it really, I foundthat I make more progress when
I'm kind of like playing and I'min more flow and kind of attune
(15:12):
to what my body says is theright time to do things, right
versus what I used to do, whichis like, Will myself to work and
come up with creative ideas whenmy brain and my eyes are
bloodshot, like that doesnothing. Right. So now I work
more in like intentionality. AndI do have obviously, like an
agenda. Like I have a book thatsays, Okay, I have to do these.
And this is where the deadlinesare. But I mean, I do better
work when I'm in play mode thanI am when I'm really stuffy.
(15:34):
Sure. So, you know, but it'sfunny, because when I look at my
corporate job, you know, 40hours a week after taxes was
bringing on maybe like,4500 $5,000 a month? Yeah, I'm
just making the same thing forless money and more play. Why
would I go back?
Nick (15:49):
Another thing about that is when you say that, you know,
we've been talking about whatyou say what you're making, but
I think your definition ofsuccess has got to be different
today than it was that
Gabby Ianniello (15:59):
Oh, yes.
1,000%. I was thriving and beingproductive. So it's like, the
maximum hours that I output,right? I want to come home and
be exhausted and put my head onthe pillow and be like, done.
Yeah, that's what I felt like Iwas worthy of basically existing
on this planet, right. And nowlike, none of that fucking
matters anymore. All thatmatters is that every day I'm
connecting with people that Ilike, I'm how I like that I'm
(16:19):
being mirrored in, the peoplethat I'm working with are cool.
They're up to cool things, likeI'm very particular about the
things that I do now. Andeverything is with this
perspective of like, well, ifI'm not having fun, I'm not
going to do it. And I mean, thatmore of like, I'm not going to
not do my business spreadsheet,you know, I'm not gonna not do
my time to do those things. ButI almost like appease my inner
child so that she doesn't rantand rage. And while I have to,
(16:41):
then later on transfer sometime, I'm like, you can have you
can have playtime, but thenlater on, we have to go balance
the books. Okay, girl,
Nancy (16:51):
oh, boy, he's gonna be playing afterwards.
Nick (16:54):
Nancy's gonna be calling you. But I mean, that seriously,
that's an important thing thatpeople should know that what
you're doing is successful toyou? Well, first of all, it's
successful to you, right? It'syour definition of success.
That's your life. And I thinkfor so long, people have gotten
it wrong. People take adefinition of something and they
(17:18):
put their own spin on it. Butthat's based off of regurgitated
fucking information that's beenlied to for so many fucking
years about what something is.
It's not just success. This is amultitude of things.
Nancy (17:32):
I'll be honest. I mean, I, I listen to you, and I look
at everything. And I'm justlike, I'm that person that, like
was a nine to five. You know,you gotta put so much money. You
know? Like, it just freaks meout. Oh, yeah. It's terrifying.
How do you like, it just freaksme out. Like, sometimes when I
(17:55):
wasn't Yeah, I'm like, thatwould, I don't know, I think I'd
have an anxiety attack every dayor
Gabby Ianniello (18:01):
so other way didn't used to always be like
this. But just crazy. Because upuntil I think I was, again, the
meditation retreat feels like avery, that I think I was 22 or
23 when I did that. But up untilthat point, I was becoming so
anxious with being perfect andhaving a structured schedule and
getting my 4.0 GPA in college.
And I had three jobs and like Iwas doing all this stuff. And
like, it came to the point thatI was so riddled with anxiety
that I could no longer functionor have fun. Like, it was such a
(18:24):
pendulum swing of the other wayof like, oh my god, we didn't
wake up at five and read ourbook for 30 minutes, I'm going
to hell type like, oh my god,I'm not gonna be successful like
that. I just wanted to say,okay, like, what if we did the
opposite, we'll be still die,right? Because we feel like
we're dying right now by beingso structured and rigid. Like if
we went full on one ad, like,would we die then? And then the
answer to that was No. And sonow I'm trying to find them the
(18:47):
two. But it is I mean, that isanxious to plan for the future,
I will say and that's somethingI'm working through. And
luckily, this year, after twoyears, I finally having
stability in my monthly incomeand things like that, and
routines, but I mean, like it'sbeen a The past year has been
full experimentation.
Nick (19:02):
That's awesome. Okay, all right. So Shoebill you for that
therapy session. Thank
Gabby Ianniello (19:08):
you. But again, that's everyone's journey has
their own like, that was justmine came early, because I had a
fucking breakdown in college,you know, but I mean, there's no
rush. Everyone has their ownjourney. So
Nick (19:18):
do you feel that you were ever forced to go to college?
I'm not trying to throw yourparents under the bus or
anything or do anything likethat. But do you feel that you
were forced maybe into doingsome of that stuff, and it just
got, but not like,
Gabby Ianniello (19:32):
it wasn't out of, you know, none of the things
my parents told me to do, wereout of malicious intent. Like
they just wanted the best forme. But actually, my first
degree or first thing I actuallyreally wanted to pursue, was
actually writing I really wantedto be a writer. And I actually
was approached by a publisherfor a rhyming children's book
that I wrote, which is kind ofcool. And I'm not going down
that route, because I didn'thave $2,000 to get the art which
(19:54):
is so minimal now in comparison,but I actually Yeah, I know. But
you know, in hindsight, I Movingforward now, but the other thing
was actually archaeology. Iwanted to be an archaeologist.
And because I love Egypt and Ilove traveling and you could
Nick (20:07):
archaeologists, if you want to you be sitting there.
Gabby Ianniello (20:14):
I'm so excited about it. Now, I totally could
have put my parents kind oflike, well, if you do that
route, you can't have a childwho can't go the traditional
route of school, no white picketfence. And at the time, I didn't
see any other alternative. So Iwas like, Yeah, you're right.
And so then I went to be ateacher, just like my cousin and
my sister in law, like all theseother people, my family were
either firefighters, policeofficers, doctors or teachers.
(20:34):
And so here I am. I'm actuallythe only child in my family who
went to college, my brotherskind of got an easy they went
through other methods ofschooling, like once an
electrician, the other onesdoing a holistic thing. But I
mean, it definitely I was like,fuck, I shouldn't, you know,
part of me doesn't think that Ishould have went,
Nick (20:49):
Hmm, interesting.
Interesting. That's the story.
Like people are just like, youknow, she must have been totally
pushed into something tofucking, you know, have a
breakdown, or if they weren'tpushed enough, and that's why
they're lazy. Or you know what Imean? There's always the whole
thing. There's such a narrativefor someone. Yeah. So everybody
has a narrative about you.
Right? No matter what
Gabby Ianniello (21:08):
choice though, anyway. I could have stayed in
teaching and honestly had a goodlife. It just wouldn't have been
a life. That's really excitingfor me specifically, and what I
wanted, right, like it wouldhave been good. But I also, you
know, they didn't say that I hadto be a teacher, it was more of
like, I didn't know what to do.
And they were like, This is yourbest option. And I was like,
Yeah, I don't know shit. Sothat's fine. I'll just do that.
Nick (21:26):
My brother's a high school teacher in Arizona. He's an art
teacher, and he loves what hedoes. I don't know that he
necessarily loves teaching inthe school system, because he
doesn't like some of that. Buthe loved that's
Gabby Ianniello (21:37):
a rabbit hole we can go. I mean, we
Nancy (21:41):
just came from Arizona.
So yeah, he was telling us alittle bit about that.
Gabby Ianniello (21:44):
That's one of the major reasons why I left
teaching. Obviously, it was likeit wasn't going to give me this
sort of lifestyle that I want.
Right, flexibility, andobviously the paycheck but the
biggest thing was this commoncore bullshit that they were
trying to teach me to then puton these kids. I was like, fuck
this. Actually, fuck this. Thisis not this is all
indoctrination. That has nothingto do with embracing children's
wanting to play and explore. Andlike I was dealing with young
kids. My degree was frompreschool to sixth grade. I'm
(22:06):
here teaching these kids andthey're getting anxiety. They're
pulling out their fucking hairover a test. No, I'm not gonna
be part of this. Yeah, yeah. AndI left. I'm not doing I'm sorry,
I'm not gonna be the fuckingperson pushing this and not.
Nick (22:19):
Yeah, I mean, I guess Yeah, that would be a whole
different topic. We could dothis again. But that would be
another whole podcast aboutSure. Because he's in the same
fucking boat. He's just like,it's just absolute. And he's an
art teacher. So this isn't even
Gabby Ianniello (22:33):
even harder for him to in the sense of like,
they don't have funding
Nick (22:38):
and funding and he puts his own money into the ship,
like it's
Gabby Ianniello (22:43):
great. Teachers do.
Nancy (22:44):
We didn't realize that you know what I mean.
Nick (22:48):
So let's go back to though, since we got off a
really cool tangent, but let'sgo back to the advice thing for
old fucks. Because there's a lotof people, including myself,
I'll tell you why. So whathappened in the past year and a
half, and people can listen tothe podcast, they'll know
exactly what's going on withthat. We won't get into it. But
(23:09):
it really opened our eyes. Andwe've personally learned a ton
about life at 54 years old. It'sweird, because like my mom, now
my mom's like, 70 something andshe says, Man, you know, Nick,
you're so like, wise and blah,blah, blah. And I'm thinking to
myself, like, that's nice, man.
Like, it's nice. Doesn't know,like, she calls us. And then I
(23:31):
think to myself, even thoughwe're going through what we're
going through right now with ourson, that I believe he's even
wiser than I was in his 30s.
It's like this 20 year gap, ofwhere y'all are just sort of
coming up going, I don't wantthat fucking life. I didn't want
(23:51):
the life My mom wanted. So Itried to change it up. You guys
don't want the fucking life thatwe have. Right? So you're
changing it up, spill some ofthat fucking good advice on some
of these older people who arejust feeling that, you know,
life is what it is.
Gabby Ianniello (24:07):
The benefit that US Millennials had is the
internet, obviously, right? Ifyou don't have examples of
people doing alternative shit,you're not going to know it
exists, and you're not going topursue it. So luckily, I set out
you know, an early age, I thinkI was in middle school in the
inner when I first got to playon the computer for the first
time, you know, and by the timehe's been in college, I was
seeing all these posts onInstagram and all this shit
about like, Oh, you mean I canlike get this car and do this
(24:29):
thing and have this job. Likeit's a different sort of
perspective on things. But Ithink the easiest thing and this
is something I actually hadn'tlearned the hard way this past
year with the journey that I'vetaken with corporate quitter is
that it's not knowledge thatyou're after it's actually
deprogramming that you're after.
So the whole way you're gonnamake progress is if you
literally take it from the rootand like rip out the shit that
you've learned prior to get backto who you actually are so you
(24:50):
can make progress in this newarea of life. I don't know if
that any if any of that likeclick sir. But I mean, like it's
a deep sort of not like, oh, Iread a book. I mean, like deep
ripping of the roots. So that'swhy I think millennials are so
balls to the walls is becausewe're like, Fuck it, let's just
go to therapy, not even therapytherapy is too weak or like,
again, give us the Ayahuasca,like, Let's go backpacking
(25:11):
through Europe for like afucking month without a phone.
Like, let's just completely getback to where we need to be, as
opposed to the kind ofprogrammed version of ourselves
that isn't really even ours.
It's our parents essentiallywithin us.
Nick (25:24):
Yeah. Okay.
Nancy (25:26):
All right. I'm just you know, you don't have to take
Nick (25:30):
any of the crazy coming out of her fucking years right
now.
Gabby Ianniello (25:34):
There are other methodologies that are coming
now that are not as abrasivethey're very quick and easy.
Like, there's this one calledrest therapy, love it to death,
it's not actually reallyreasonable for pricing and stuff
like that. No puking or shittinginvolved. And essentially helps
you get back to kind of theoriginal event that they say is
like, what triggered the traumaor what triggered the response.
So like, if that's your problem,binge eating, or whatever it is,
(25:56):
you think, oh, it's because of,I don't know, I have body image
issues or like whatever it is,it actually is because maybe
back then you and your dad goneto a car accident, and he ended
up helping the passenger. Yeah,it helps you get back to the
original event from when youwere a kid and it rips the root
out of that kind of thing ofhappening. So you don't respond
in the same way and it'sinstantaneous. Within three
days. It's completely clearedreally, like truly no bullshit.
(26:19):
See,
Nick (26:19):
that's that fucking millennial shit. Yeah.
Gabby Ianniello (26:21):
It's weird. But you know, it's actually based in
Europe. neuroplasticity, like,there's deep science rooted
within it. It's crazy. It is
Nick (26:29):
crazy. And I think I just want to encourage like, anybody
who's listening, I don't carewhat fucking age you are. But
anybody who's listening,especially like, people of our
generation, to really just getout of your fucking head. And
really, just like you just said,it's not about what you're
learning. It's aboutdeprogramming. And that to me,
right there, just what you said,there is so fucking deep to me
(26:52):
that alone, I'll probably takethat from this whole
conversation. And take that withme because that is the I talked
about regurgitation. People arejust living off of what they've
been told over and over again.
And it fucking makes me sick.
And I have to, but I always knewthat's what it was like, I hate
(27:13):
fucking authority. I hate rules.
I don't want anybody telling mewhat to do. I want to do
whatever the fuck I want to dowhenever I want to fucking do
it. But I've always beensubdued. I've always been, well,
this could happen or well, thatcan happen not about well, this
could happen. You know what Imean? Like you're here with you.
When it happens. It happens.
Gabby Ianniello (27:35):
The cool thing is that when you fuck up enough
times, you're like, oh, like, Isurvived. Like, I survived 100%
of the days that I sucked up andyou're like, Yeah, you're right.
Yeah. I mean, how much worsecould have possibly get, like
losing? I mean, I don't know. Idon't know how bad life can get
but I mean, if you experience itonce, you kind of you're become
invincible. Really. You embracedon't give. Truly. And that's
(27:57):
where like nothing you'rebasically everyone says to like,
what makes them successful, orlike, you know, you speak to
people who've had just like,crazy success, like Lady Gaga as
of the world and whatever.
Almost all of them will say it'saudacity and not skill or
knowledge all you know, so it's,there's something to be said,
there.
Nick (28:15):
That's awesome. I appreciate that. That's fucking
deprogramming shit now is goingto stick with me and I'm going
to use it over and over again.
So don't like copyrighted oranything, because I'll have to
ask you if I can use it.
Gabby Ianniello (28:27):
Can I give you a challenge? Fuck yeah. Okay, so
there's a you don't have to readthis book by Shonda Rhimes
called year vs. It's the womanwho wrote Grey's Anatomy, she
writes all the other stuff, youdon't have to read the book. But
the concept is to say yes toeverything. And so you don't do
it for a full year. Try it formaybe a day, try it for a week,
try it for a month, I did it fora whole year. And that's
partially why I did the nakedretreat and other things and
(28:48):
quitting a job like, yeah, and alot of other things that were
small, but really, like, took abig path, you know, for big
country. And so ever since then,it's changed my perspective,
like old version of Gabby wouldsay no to this because I don't
want to go out or I don't wantto get ready or I'm a homebody
or this is scary. Or this isgoing to cost money, or whatever
it is. But now like new Gabbywould say yes. Or and if she
doesn't, let's just try it. Andso it's actually open doors that
(29:10):
open conversations or even likehonestly jobs, and things have
come out of the woodwork becauseI I basically had a year of yes,
that's try that for a week. Andit could be something like small
to like,
Nick (29:21):
oh, yeah, I was gonna say because she's already having an
anxiety attack over here. She'sliterally like gasping for air.
I mean,
Gabby Ianniello (29:29):
again, it can be small. So like for example,
if someone asked me hey, can Ihave $1 Sure you can have $1 and
then end up having aconversation with that person
and learn something new wherelike you actually feel better
about yourself because you ableyou were able to give back or
like you know someone asked foradvice and all of a sudden
you're on your you know, one ofyour employees or you're
chatting them up for an hour andyou learn so much about them and
this happens in the I don't knowit's just yeah, you never know
where it's gonna take you youdon't have to say like my a lot
(29:51):
of my big yeses that year forexample. I like went on a cabo
trip for free with this guy witha bunch of people had no I
should not have gone but it wasa great learning experience. and
also fucked up shit happen onthat trip. But again like man,
it's it's another experience totuck in my belt have stories to
share for the future which wasvaluable for me.
Nick (30:09):
Yeah, the cool thing is I'll be talking to her about
like this 50 acres I want andshe has to say yes.
Gabby Ianniello (30:16):
Okay, that's manipulation
Unknown (30:22):
to each other world coming.
Nick (30:28):
So you have a lot of yeses you say yes to a lot of things.
We have a lot of shit going on.
You've done a lot. But there'salso people who told you to fuck
off. Oh, all the time. A bigthing for people is they can't
take fucking rejection for ship.
It still sucks.
Gabby Ianniello (30:43):
I mean, 100%
Nick (30:45):
I interviewed a girl that her life was about being
rejected at a young age at ayoung young it affected her it
affected her life. I mean, it'sfucked up. So spill some
rejection, how do you deal withthe rejection? Because
Nancy (31:01):
I mean, you know, you're saying go for it and do all this
stuff. But part of that isrejection hills that, yeah,
like, What the hell did I do?
Why did I do this? You know, whydid I listen to you quit my job?
Gabby Ianniello (31:13):
No, I know, people have said that to me,
too. So part of me is like, Ohmy God, I feel responsible. But
the end of the day, and how doyou make you do anything? Yeah,
whatever. Disclaimer, yeah, buta rejection is a hard thing.
Because sometimes rejection ismasked in other ways. A big
rejection. For me, it wasn'teven a direct rejection. But it
was something that actuallyalmost fucked me up for a really
good time. Basically, two yearsago, before I went viral, and
(31:34):
like corporate quarter evenbecame what it was about midway
through the summer, I started todo like videos online, like kind
of started to do what I do now,which is like documenting
everything which people love.
But at the time, I was datingsomeone who hated it, and he
would walk up vocalize I hatethis, and I think it's cringy.
And you'd be like, my friendsare making fun of you. Like he
was very vocal about it. And yeteveryone else in my world was
like, okay with it, when I wouldask my brother like, is it a guy
(31:55):
thing? Like, what am I doingwrong? And he's like, no, no,
no, he's probably just insecure,like you guys should talk about
it was the first fight we evergotten to. And I remember being
in my backyard sobbing becausethat all I wanted to do was for
him to understand, like, this ismy creative process. And I'm
going to try this for 30 days,please, let's just see what
happens. Just trust me. And youknow it within 29 days, I went
mega viral, I hit major 45,000people had seen something. And
(32:15):
that's what started all of this.
And he never wants to apologize.
And even when the media tourcame, never congratulated it for
me, you know, he was just alwayslike, oh, like, must be nice.
Oh, I should have that becauseI'm more successful than
breaking up for good reasons.
But honestly, up until this pastsummer, it was still haunting
me. And it was helping, it wasturning and holding me back for
(32:36):
a really long time. Sorejection, in that sense, was
just actually someone who Iloved and cared for. And that
was the only person's approval Ireally wanted was so deeply
rooted to the point that I wasshutting myself down. And I
wasn't letting myself be assparkly as I could have been.
Which is crazy, because I'malready crazy to begin with. I
think of now like, again, usethe person that I saw on my
Austin trip, like, wow, this isme fully expressed, like, and
(32:57):
the cringe veil has kind of beenlifted. Like I literally don't
care anymore. What couldpossibly happen. But that took
two years to kind of remove thatout. Net something injection is
very heavy, and it's just amatter of finding tools that
work for you. So at one point intime, it was like heavy
exercise. And I realized, Idon't like this, so let's do
something different. So itbecame weird shit, like, Okay,
let's go dance around it likefull moon circles. And then it
(33:19):
became like, okay, let's justlike read, Let's meditate. Let's
go on vacations on paint. Likeit was a variety. Anything. I
mean, sometimes it's justbecause go for a walk and listen
to a podcast. That's funny.
Like, I mean, it doesn't have tobe again, crazy. But it's
finding ways to mitigate thetrigger response that happens
when you get rejected both inthe way of, let's say, a nasty
comment or getting a no from aprospective client. Or for the
most people, it's rejection fromyour immediate family and
(33:42):
friends who are seeing you trysomething new, because they're
uncomfortable because you'redoing something that they wish
they could do.
Nick (33:48):
Yes. Oh, yeah. 100%. Okay.
That's where it mostly goes toanyway. Right. Exactly. Okay. So
cool. I mean, dude, this hasbeen a cool conversation for me.
I mean, I'm so excited that yousaid yes. And didn't reject us.
Gabby Ianniello (34:05):
Come on, I wouldn't say no.
Nick (34:09):
So where are you at? Now?
What are you doing now? BecauseI know we've seen that there's a
couple other things going on.
You got some weird shit goingon. You have a lot of shit going
on? Not sure. What did I evendid I even hear well, maybe I
shouldn't know anything.
Nothing's ask the question. So Imean, you're you I saw that
you're even like even with thepodcast, you're thinking about
maybe getting rid of it orselling it?
Gabby Ianniello (34:33):
Yeah, that's been so there's a lot of things
in the works. So again, like theI've been kind of putting seeds
out and making havingconversations and again, like
being in flow is when thingscome in easily. And so trouble
months ago, I stopped thepodcast just because I was kind
of losing direction like after125 episodes is kind of the same
shit. You're like, what am Igonna do now? Right? At one
point, I was talking to a coupledifferent people talking like
(34:53):
numbers and like how could Isell this as a business as well
as like, my intellectualproperty and like where it could
be headed? But I also realizedthat Corp Whatever, even if it's
not necessarily I'm not tied tocorporate anymore, it could
still be my brand, right? It'sstill who I am. It's what I
embody. Beyond that, you know,so it's in its infancy in terms
of being rebranded and figuringout what that's going to look
like. But I do have a craving toget back into it. Because
(35:14):
naturally, I really like beingin the podcast world. But the
past two year, I would say, I'vebeen doing more consulting work
as I've been on hiatus with theshow, so helping people launch
their shows do digital, normal,all that stuff. Yeah, social
media script, writing forvideos, all of that. And then of
course, I mean, there's a hugelist of things that I do, right,
I have my painting stuff peoplehave inquired to sell like to
(35:34):
buy them, but I'm just not inthe place of selling them yet. I
do have an art exhibit that'sprobably going to I think it's
happening winter of this year,which is really exciting. I'm
writing a manuscript like Ijust, I a lot of things just
drop in very quickly, and then Irun with it. And that's kind of
the way I operate is it'll bequiet, like crickets for a
while. And I was gonna say, Idon't
Unknown (35:51):
know what kind of crickets this
Gabby Ianniello (35:56):
guy Yes. Which, yeah, you get it. So it's like
crickets in the sense of like,I'm not zigging and zagging
throughout the day is like, Oh,we're just like street light.
Like we're flatlining today.
Yeah, that, to me is a quietdead day. But so my focus is
really just being in flow, likemaintaining this happy sort of
bubbly kind of self that I'm inand being around people who also
make me feel this way and doingthings that reflect that so that
I can call in more of thoseopportunities that fall into
(36:18):
nowhere. But so now I'm justkind of trying to figure out
okay, what's this nextiteration? How are we blending
all the things that I've beendoing? The brand deals with the
consulting work with? Now,again, the manuscript and the
publisher, I'm talking to youlike just a lot of random stuff
that's going on, so that I canleave and go back to Austin,
which is ultimately where I wantto be. And that was a clear
confirmation after lax weektrip. I know. Yeah, we wants me
(36:39):
just as much as I want.
Nick (36:43):
I think that's awesome.
And I think that corporatequitter I seen as it worked for
you in the very beginning,because that's what it was. I
think of it, though, as an allaround thing in life, right,
that can be applied to anything.
Quitting anything that's fuckedup or not even done with. That's
(37:04):
pretty awesome. Thanks foryou're doing like the consulting
and shit. So where can peopleactually then find you and get a
hold of you? And we can tell youthat you won't be fucking
disappointed. And they've nowknow who you are. Because they
know what a crazy nut job thatyou are in. It's so fucking
(37:25):
awesome to us. Where do you wantme to go to find you?
Gabby Ianniello (37:28):
Yeah, I mean, obviously, corporate quarters
easiest thing to find thehighest in the Google search all
over social my handles arecorporate Twitter. But I also
have a personal website calledGabby, I Anello my name. And
then the actual agency as shelikes to gab. So that's where
you'll find like a blog that hasresources like free things for
you. Yeah. So we've got a lot ofdifferent things going on,
depending on what your flavor isessentially.
Nick (37:49):
Cool. Thank you so much.
So yeah, thanks. So we'll haveto get back together again. Or
if you get the podcast gone,we'll just shoot the ship and
have fun with it. Oh,
Gabby Ianniello (37:58):
you guys are definitely coming on for sure to
talk business but we obviouslywill. Of course, yeah. Packed up
stories. Alright, girl. Allright. Love you. Thanks. Thank
you.
We unintentionally gave up. Over time we let ourselves
down. We didn't teach or respectthe struggle. Our value
disappeared over time replacedwith masks disguised as truth. I
mean, our words became empty andour presence became obsolete.
(00:26):
Now we face our biggeststruggle, and it's time to rip
the masks off. More than ever,it's time to return to our true
selves. Our real identity. It'stime to be fucking offensive. We
haven't invited and we are sofreaking actually fucking
(00:47):
excited. Because Gabrielle, wewere gonna have you do this
podcast worked for us like acouple of years ago before
COVID.
Gabby Ianniello (00:55):
Like literally two years ago.
Unknown (00:56):
Yeah, two years ago.
Nick (00:57):
Oh two? Wow. Yeah. Wow.
We've obviously followed yourjourney. You're fucking crazy.
And we said,
Gabby Ianniello (01:04):
I'm still I'm glad you're still around,
honestly, because some peoplewere like, Yo, after the feed
pick thing. No, no, no, no, no.
Nick (01:13):
No, not at all. We really liked you a lot. The thing was,
is that we felt bad because weweren't in a place to do what
we're doing now. So we didn'twant you were just really
getting started. We didn't wantto, like lead you on and get all
fucked up. And then you're feellike you're a piece of shit.
Because nobody wanted to go withyou.
Unknown (01:30):
I can't imagine that she could feel that way. No.
Nick (01:35):
But no, seriously, so obviously, you've done fucking
awesome things. And we've seenit the whole time. sort of feel
like little creepers watchingyou. But I mean, that's what you
do. But we just want to go on sowe want you just sort of bust
loose and just tell us corporatequitter. I know you're moving on
to a lot of different things.
But where the fuck did you evencome from?
Nancy (01:56):
Like, what? How did it like? Yeah, it's
Gabby Ianniello (01:59):
interesting, because when I backtrack my
story, I'm still like, What thefuck? How did I even get here?
Because I was told to go thetraditional path and be a
teacher. And I did all that. Andthen after graduation, I was
like, fuck this, I can't makeany money. This sucks. Like I'm
stuck in a system. I don't wantto do this. And so naturally,
I've always been pivoting anddoing something different. So
went into Wall Street for alittle bit right to make some
(02:20):
money, pay off my student loanskind of went to New York and
played a little bit andfrolicked in the borough's and
then you know, lo and behold, acouple years later decided to
quit hence why corporate quitterwas born. But I mean, ever since
then, I've just been pivotingand trying things differently.
Because if you go thetraditional route, you always
get fucked, like you alwaysdefunct, you know, it just never
made sense for me to do the 510year plan, like ever. And also,
(02:42):
my life changes so quickly,because as you guys know, I kind
of like just go with the flowliterally every single day,
which is both amazing andchaotic at the same time. Right.
Corporate quitter was born inMay of 2021. And since then,
it's just been like a rocketship launch, like I'm just
holding on for dear life. Andnow I feel like it could finally
breathe a little bit. But itcame so quickly. And I wasn't
(03:02):
expecting it. Like I think a lotof people talk about, oh, it
takes 10 years of working onsomething specifically to make,
you know, some sort of explosionhappen or whatever. And a lot of
that did take a lot of effortright beforehand of learning,
self worth, and all the crazythings that I had to do. I have
plenty of stories that I haven'teven shared on social, right,
right, naked women's retreatsand this shroom trip and just
like wild things
Nick (03:24):
is wasn't true as well being lovely. They
Gabby Ianniello (03:26):
were they were separate because I think that
would have been a little. ButI'm sure it's on my docket at
some point to combine the twobecause there's something to be
said about doing both of thosethings and having an ego death
experience in multiple facetswhen I quit. It wasn't the
craziest thing I've donecrazier. I started this in May
2021. Didn't really know what Iwas going to do how to plan was
like, I'm gonna make it vague.
Like I'll figure it out as I go.
(03:48):
And it's funny because whenaround the time that you and I
met was when my New York Timesarticle came out. And that's
when things just launched therocketship just launched like I
was already going viral a fewmonths in Yeah, because of the
great resignation and somehowintuitively I knew the timing
was going to be good which iswild to begin with. But So ever
since then, it's just been likejust insanity between media
tours and brand deals and I dida documentary and just like just
(04:11):
madness and it's also been ashitshow as you guys have seen
it's been both amazing and alsoabsolutely fucking terrifying
and just everything burning andyou're
Nick (04:20):
hilarious you say online you're fucking pumped or
whatever and then the next dayyou're just like but that's the
realness right? That's thefucking shit when you said that
people say it's going to take 10years so first of all, I just
want to say give yourself somefucking credit right because
awesome you bust ass and thatright there alone you have to be
(04:43):
able to take the nose with theYaz with the as what the fuck
knows what the Yeah, the knowswhat the yes is and whatever and
I think that's part of the wholething with you that we've
followed and seen. Where did youget that?
Gabby Ianniello (04:58):
The pizzazz or like the fucking Energy like,
yeah, so it's like you
Nancy (05:01):
don't give up. Like, this is not working. So you're gonna
go this way, or you're gonna youknow what I mean? Like, you're
down one day. And obviously, youmust be up a lot because you're
doing your shit. You're doingit. And you're a millennial, I
think,
Gabby Ianniello (05:16):
right? Yeah. 93 baby, and I just turned 30. So
Yeah.
Nancy (05:20):
Where's that coming from?
Is it coming? Like
Nick (05:23):
you learn from your parents? Some things? Yeah, we
can get some of that from ourparents. But ultimately, you
have made the decision, right?
It's all about our choice. It'sabout our fucking decisions. So
you've ultimately made thedecision to do what you're
doing. And I'm sure people havetold you you're fucking crazy.
This is Oh, yeah, you know,especially being I mean, shipped
when
Gabby Ianniello (05:44):
we were first married. Both of you like even
your business. The fact that youeven have a business is fucking
crazy. Yeah, notice, you knowwhat I mean? Like, it's insane.
Like, think about the percentageof people who just are like
following the man, like taking apaycheck. Oh, yeah. We're also
like, within that realm ofsparkly people who are doing
shit and like, just go on withit. Yeah.
Nick (06:02):
I'm gonna do my fucking eyes like y'all. Y'all gotta see
your eyes right now. She's fieldshe has her eyes are literally
like, balls like pearls on thepearl earrings. It's fucking
awesome. So no, seriously, wheredid what do you attribute a lot
of that to?
Gabby Ianniello (06:20):
I think I've always had a bit of a not a
sparkly nose. So when I wasyounger, I definitely had a
personality like I won, likewhen I was like a toddler. Like
I wanted the personalitycontests like at a you know, a
show or whatever, like a pageantwhen I was like two or
something. But then I feel likebetween the ages of like 10 And
you know, kind of being a highschooler that spark leanness
went away because responsibilitywas taken on. So I'm the oldest
(06:41):
daughter and I have a brotherwho's 10 years younger. So I
feel like oh, that dissipated alittle bit. So I had become
like, second mom. And also myparents are entrepreneurs. So
they were building a business atthe same time. So it was just
like, a lot of chaos amidst the2008 crash and all that. So I
actually lost the spark leannessfor like a good decade, if not
longer, and I I rememberspecifically feeling like that
(07:02):
spark leanness come back after Iwent on a 10 day silent
meditation retreat that I had noidea what I signed up for. And
because of that, but then, youknow, the first three days, all
I was doing was like, runningrampant in my head. Right, the
squirrels in my brain were justrunning. And then by like, the
fourth day was just silence. Andthen from then on, it was just
like bliss. Like by the finaldays, I felt like I was almost
hallucinating because thingswere just so crystal clear, like
(07:23):
I could almost seemed like,outside the matrix, like things
didn't faze me quite the same,like the Fuckit mode really
turned on. Because I realized,oh, wait, I'm in the present.
And this is where life is. Andthis is where the joy comes
from. Not looking in the past,and a lot of people are not
looking in the future, which isagain, where like the sparkliest
comes in because when I evenlook at my current reality, I'm
back living at my parents. Andlike I had, at one point, things
(07:45):
were so bad, I had to take outmy 401k early and Okay, that's
great. That's terrible. But I'vealso made 30 grand and brand
deals. So like when you and thatdoesn't happen for most people,
especially within the firstcouple. So I mean, there are
flip sides to both things. It'sjust really a perspective shift.
And also, I look at things asthe long term game. So like, I
know, in the two years that I'vebeen doing this, when you look
(08:05):
at like those, let's say biggerpieces, like Oh, I haven't hit
six figures, and like, I spentmore than I made and blah, blah,
blah, it looks like I'm losing.
But I also know I'm setting upsuccess for the future. And that
was the same thing for the 10day silent meditation, retreat,
the shrooms thing, likeliterally so many other things
that I've done that are justlike out of just crazy, like
saying yes to trips, and justthings that I've no place being
but it ultimately was like athing that I need to go through
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to get me to my next life,essentially.
Nick (08:31):
So that's pretty cool.
Because you and I are probablylike, almost aligned the same
when it comes to like just beingall over the place. We can take
that and we can put it in theright direction. But my question
would be half the time. So firstof all, you're young. Right?
When you were young, I gotplenty of time. So I'm saying
even when you weren't a tree,you were young, right? So so to
even come to a point where youwant to make that decision to
(08:53):
even change or to even do thatis fucking awesome. Number one.
Number two, your mind like ahamster wheel, right? Your mind
is just going round and roundRound Round. So you get to this
retreat, because I'm going to bea little selfish now. And I'm
going to ask this for myself.
Like, let's have a littleconversation here. How are you
even to sort of break out ofthat hamster wheel, right?
(09:15):
Because I know it's a retreat,and I know, so you're in a
position where a lot of peopleare doing the same thing. And
you know what I'm saying you canprobably get into that mindset,
maybe a little, but that'sfucking heart silent. That's
fucking hard to silence the shitthat going on in your mind.
Gabby Ianniello (09:30):
I did not know what I signed up for, like at
all. And honestly, I wanted tobail multiple times. But I was
the driver for a group of peoplewho were women. I was the only
woman and I was the driver. So Icouldn't even get to my guy
friends who I drove so I'm gonnaleave and come back in 10 days
to get them It didn't have cellphone. I didn't have to nothing
like no communication period. Soit was like I literally can't
(09:53):
leave like God universe,whatever this in this moment.
Like I had to be there andsuffer through it.
Nick (09:59):
That was the universe like they were pushing you into that
time, that was your time to dothat, which is awesome. Would
you suggest that to people,
Gabby Ianniello (10:06):
whenever I talk to people like, and the thing
too, it's free, the one that Iwent to free, they feed you for
free, it's donation basis, everyso often I'll like throw money
to them because I still respectthe organization. And one day
I'll go back and do it again,when I'm ready for that sort of,
kind of, you know, major upleveling and that sort that's a
bit gentle than like somethinglike an Ayahuasca where you're
puking and shitting your bangsout, which I don't know if I'll
(10:26):
be able to handle that.
Nancy (10:30):
Yeah. Yeah,
Gabby Ianniello (10:34):
but I will say you are going to change when you
leave. So for context, whenbasically, I came back from
their treat, I quit my nannyingjob and got my real estate
license and was starting thatwithin a month. So that was like
my official like, I don't give afuck, like Yeah, so once I had
that clarity, I was just like,go. And so since then, I've kind
of had similar experiences thatlead me to that place of like,
(10:55):
once we dissolve the ego and thefear and the judgment, we just
go for whatever's next for us.
And I mean, I land on my feet,it sucks, because a lot of times
those initial breakthroughs leadto like literally, like skate
like, teeth dragging on thepavement moments. Yeah. But then
I always end up doing better.
You know,
Nick (11:10):
I keep going back to the young thing, because it does
matter, right? It's people thinkthat, Oh, I'm old, I can't do
that shit or whatever. Andthat's just such a fucking
mindfuck. Right? That's justsuch a lie that people are
telling themselves. What kind oflike advice would you give? And
I, I seriously, I'm going totell you right now, I love the
fact that I'm asking you ayounger person about advice,
(11:34):
because I think that's No,seriously, like, that's another
thing that people don't realize,like, my generation, acting
like, I'm some old fuck, whichI'm not old, generation up. But
my generation is like, you know,we fucking know everything. And
you're not going to tell meanything. And it's like, I was
brought up, you know, respectyour elders, and whatever they
say is right, and blah, blah,blah. And it's just, fuck, it's
(11:58):
just not like that anymore. Likefor, first of all, what it is
that we're all human. And we alllearn at different fucking
levels. And people don't realizethat. And so if you can't
realize that, or accept the factthat we are just human, and you
may know way more than I do, orat least in your space, you may
know more than I do. What advicedo you think you would give to a
(12:19):
person of the older generationabout that? We say corporate
quitting, and people take itaway. Oh, that's a bad thing.
You quit your job.
Nancy (12:26):
So where were you working? When you did that,
though? I was
Gabby Ianniello (12:29):
in like the stuffiness environment. So I was
in asset management down on WallStreet. So yeah, I was an
assistant. And luckily, I gotpromoted. I was well respected
in my industry and got promotedto being a marketing coordinator
within our real estate sectorbefore I was kind of in the
forex trading world like theBloomberg terminal people kind
of going at it that I gotbasically promoted as the
pandemic hit. So being in realestate during that time is not
(12:52):
ideal. It was just a crash. Itwas terrible. But it led me to
quit. It was great, ya know? Sowhat
Nick (12:57):
kind of because yeah, we were doing real estate back in
2008. When the fucking recessionhit? Yes. So we totally can't
even imagine I'm saying it's sofucked up. Because we took we
there was nothing for sale.
Right? Everything was rentals.
We took all those developmentsand all those condos, the GSEs
were fucked because they wereselling, trying to sell condos
(13:18):
when nobody was buying. So theyliterally were turning these
buildings into rental essence.
Yeah, you know what I mean? Soanyway, so we were there. But
what do you tell someone, anolder person that is just fucked
up right now and has had it oris trying to think about moving
into a different, and this isn'tjust about corporate quitting?
This is about anything in life.
(13:38):
We talked about giving up like,it's a good thing. I'm not even.
Nancy (13:44):
Yeah, I think with with the older generation, it's
always all those millennials.
You know, they think that theydon't have to work you know,
and, and I think they alwaysjust think they're not working
from nine to five. You know whatI mean? That, but you are
working? You work? Oh, yeah.
Harder than a nine to five. Youdon't? Yeah. But it's like, oh,
they just want to sit home andjust, you know, play their games
(14:06):
and do something on the side doa computer. I just don't think
it's like that anymore. You knowwhat I mean? Or I don't like
well,
Nick (14:12):
maybe. Okay, let's talk about that for a second. We'll
get back to what the advice is.
But what is your day like? Like?
So what is it for you like that?
Because you are all over theplace. But you obviously are
still happy? I mean, you'reobviously still doing what the
fuck you want to do?
Gabby Ianniello (14:29):
Yeah, I mean, so my days vary, which I prefer.
And that's why when I was anassistant on Wall Street, I was
thriving because even though Ididn't show up to the same place
every day and do the commute,which I fucking hated, but I
love it every single day wasdifferent. So I structure my
days the same way. They're notinstructed, but of course, I
have calls and things that Ihave to do and I have client
work that have deliverables oncertain days that I have to
(14:50):
meet. But I mean, everything isvery flowy. So it's, you know, I
have to make sure things areposted at a certain time and
whatever but I mean, like today,I woke up in the morning for a
cup of coffee did some work inthe morning. And that was like,
Oh, I feel like painting forthree hours. And so I painted
and dance around and like didsome baking like, whatever. But
I mean, like it really, I foundthat I make more progress when
I'm kind of like playing and I'min more flow and kind of attune
(15:12):
to what my body says is theright time to do things, right
versus what I used to do, whichis like, Will myself to work and
come up with creative ideas whenmy brain and my eyes are
bloodshot, like that doesnothing. Right. So now I work
more in like intentionality. AndI do have obviously, like an
agenda. Like I have a book thatsays, Okay, I have to do these.
And this is where the deadlinesare. But I mean, I do better
work when I'm in play mode thanI am when I'm really stuffy.
(15:34):
Sure. So, you know, but it'sfunny, because when I look at my
corporate job, you know, 40hours a week after taxes was
bringing on maybe like,4500 $5,000 a month? Yeah, I'm
just making the same thing forless money and more play. Why
would I go back?
Nick (15:49):
Another thing about that is when you say that, you know,
we've been talking about whatyou say what you're making, but
I think your definition ofsuccess has got to be different
today than it was that
Gabby Ianniello (15:59):
Oh, yes.
1,000%. I was thriving and beingproductive. So it's like, the
maximum hours that I output,right? I want to come home and
be exhausted and put my head onthe pillow and be like, done.
Yeah, that's what I felt like Iwas worthy of basically existing
on this planet, right. And nowlike, none of that fucking
matters anymore. All thatmatters is that every day I'm
connecting with people that Ilike, I'm how I like that I'm
(16:19):
being mirrored in, the peoplethat I'm working with are cool.
They're up to cool things, likeI'm very particular about the
things that I do now. Andeverything is with this
perspective of like, well, ifI'm not having fun, I'm not
going to do it. And I mean, thatmore of like, I'm not going to
not do my business spreadsheet,you know, I'm not gonna not do
my time to do those things. ButI almost like appease my inner
child so that she doesn't rantand rage. And while I have to,
(16:41):
then later on transfer sometime, I'm like, you can have you
can have playtime, but thenlater on, we have to go balance
the books. Okay, girl,
Nancy (16:51):
oh, boy, he's gonna be playing afterwards.
Nick (16:54):
Nancy's gonna be calling you. But I mean, that seriously,
that's an important thing thatpeople should know that what
you're doing is successful toyou? Well, first of all, it's
successful to you, right? It'syour definition of success.
That's your life. And I thinkfor so long, people have gotten
it wrong. People take adefinition of something and they
(17:18):
put their own spin on it. Butthat's based off of regurgitated
fucking information that's beenlied to for so many fucking
years about what something is.
It's not just success. This is amultitude of things.
Nancy (17:32):
I'll be honest. I mean, I, I listen to you, and I look
at everything. And I'm justlike, I'm that person that, like
was a nine to five. You know,you gotta put so much money. You
know? Like, it just freaks meout. Oh, yeah. It's terrifying.
How do you like, it just freaksme out. Like, sometimes when I
(17:55):
wasn't Yeah, I'm like, thatwould, I don't know, I think I'd
have an anxiety attack every dayor
Gabby Ianniello (18:01):
so other way didn't used to always be like
this. But just crazy. Because upuntil I think I was, again, the
meditation retreat feels like avery, that I think I was 22 or
23 when I did that. But up untilthat point, I was becoming so
anxious with being perfect andhaving a structured schedule and
getting my 4.0 GPA in college.
And I had three jobs and like Iwas doing all this stuff. And
like, it came to the point thatI was so riddled with anxiety
that I could no longer functionor have fun. Like, it was such a
(18:24):
pendulum swing of the other wayof like, oh my god, we didn't
wake up at five and read ourbook for 30 minutes, I'm going
to hell type like, oh my god,I'm not gonna be successful like
that. I just wanted to say,okay, like, what if we did the
opposite, we'll be still die,right? Because we feel like
we're dying right now by beingso structured and rigid. Like if
we went full on one ad, like,would we die then? And then the
answer to that was No. And sonow I'm trying to find them the
(18:47):
two. But it is I mean, that isanxious to plan for the future,
I will say and that's somethingI'm working through. And
luckily, this year, after twoyears, I finally having
stability in my monthly incomeand things like that, and
routines, but I mean, like it'sbeen a The past year has been
full experimentation.
Nick (19:02):
That's awesome. Okay, all right. So Shoebill you for that
therapy session. Thank
Gabby Ianniello (19:08):
you. But again, that's everyone's journey has
their own like, that was justmine came early, because I had a
fucking breakdown in college,you know, but I mean, there's no
rush. Everyone has their ownjourney. So
Nick (19:18):
do you feel that you were ever forced to go to college?
I'm not trying to throw yourparents under the bus or
anything or do anything likethat. But do you feel that you
were forced maybe into doingsome of that stuff, and it just
got, but not like,
Gabby Ianniello (19:32):
it wasn't out of, you know, none of the things
my parents told me to do, wereout of malicious intent. Like
they just wanted the best forme. But actually, my first
degree or first thing I actuallyreally wanted to pursue, was
actually writing I really wantedto be a writer. And I actually
was approached by a publisherfor a rhyming children's book
that I wrote, which is kind ofcool. And I'm not going down
that route, because I didn'thave $2,000 to get the art which
(19:54):
is so minimal now in comparison,but I actually Yeah, I know. But
you know, in hindsight, I Movingforward now, but the other thing
was actually archaeology. Iwanted to be an archaeologist.
And because I love Egypt and Ilove traveling and you could
Nick (20:07):
archaeologists, if you want to you be sitting there.
Gabby Ianniello (20:14):
I'm so excited about it. Now, I totally could
have put my parents kind oflike, well, if you do that
route, you can't have a childwho can't go the traditional
route of school, no white picketfence. And at the time, I didn't
see any other alternative. So Iwas like, Yeah, you're right.
And so then I went to be ateacher, just like my cousin and
my sister in law, like all theseother people, my family were
either firefighters, policeofficers, doctors or teachers.
(20:34):
And so here I am. I'm actuallythe only child in my family who
went to college, my brotherskind of got an easy they went
through other methods ofschooling, like once an
electrician, the other onesdoing a holistic thing. But I
mean, it definitely I was like,fuck, I shouldn't, you know,
part of me doesn't think that Ishould have went,
Nick (20:49):
Hmm, interesting.
Interesting. That's the story.
Like people are just like, youknow, she must have been totally
pushed into something tofucking, you know, have a
breakdown, or if they weren'tpushed enough, and that's why
they're lazy. Or you know what Imean? There's always the whole
thing. There's such a narrativefor someone. Yeah. So everybody
has a narrative about you.
Right? No matter what
Gabby Ianniello (21:08):
choice though, anyway. I could have stayed in
teaching and honestly had a goodlife. It just wouldn't have been
a life. That's really excitingfor me specifically, and what I
wanted, right, like it wouldhave been good. But I also, you
know, they didn't say that I hadto be a teacher, it was more of
like, I didn't know what to do.
And they were like, This is yourbest option. And I was like,
Yeah, I don't know shit. Sothat's fine. I'll just do that.
Nick (21:26):
My brother's a high school teacher in Arizona. He's an art
teacher, and he loves what hedoes. I don't know that he
necessarily loves teaching inthe school system, because he
doesn't like some of that. Buthe loved that's
Gabby Ianniello (21:37):
a rabbit hole we can go. I mean, we
Nancy (21:41):
just came from Arizona.
So yeah, he was telling us alittle bit about that.
Gabby Ianniello (21:44):
That's one of the major reasons why I left
teaching. Obviously, it was likeit wasn't going to give me this
sort of lifestyle that I want.
Right, flexibility, andobviously the paycheck but the
biggest thing was this commoncore bullshit that they were
trying to teach me to then puton these kids. I was like, fuck
this. Actually, fuck this. Thisis not this is all
indoctrination. That has nothingto do with embracing children's
wanting to play and explore. Andlike I was dealing with young
kids. My degree was frompreschool to sixth grade. I'm
(22:06):
here teaching these kids andthey're getting anxiety. They're
pulling out their fucking hairover a test. No, I'm not gonna
be part of this. Yeah, yeah. AndI left. I'm not doing I'm sorry,
I'm not gonna be the fuckingperson pushing this and not.
Nick (22:19):
Yeah, I mean, I guess Yeah, that would be a whole
different topic. We could dothis again. But that would be
another whole podcast aboutSure. Because he's in the same
fucking boat. He's just like,it's just absolute. And he's an
art teacher. So this isn't even
Gabby Ianniello (22:33):
even harder for him to in the sense of like,
they don't have funding
Nick (22:38):
and funding and he puts his own money into the ship,
like it's
Gabby Ianniello (22:43):
great. Teachers do.
Nancy (22:44):
We didn't realize that you know what I mean.
Nick (22:48):
So let's go back to though, since we got off a
really cool tangent, but let'sgo back to the advice thing for
old fucks. Because there's a lotof people, including myself,
I'll tell you why. So whathappened in the past year and a
half, and people can listen tothe podcast, they'll know
exactly what's going on withthat. We won't get into it. But
(23:09):
it really opened our eyes. Andwe've personally learned a ton
about life at 54 years old. It'sweird, because like my mom, now
my mom's like, 70 something andshe says, Man, you know, Nick,
you're so like, wise and blah,blah, blah. And I'm thinking to
myself, like, that's nice, man.
Like, it's nice. Doesn't know,like, she calls us. And then I
(23:31):
think to myself, even thoughwe're going through what we're
going through right now with ourson, that I believe he's even
wiser than I was in his 30s.
It's like this 20 year gap, ofwhere y'all are just sort of
coming up going, I don't wantthat fucking life. I didn't want
(23:51):
the life My mom wanted. So Itried to change it up. You guys
don't want the fucking life thatwe have. Right? So you're
changing it up, spill some ofthat fucking good advice on some
of these older people who arejust feeling that, you know,
life is what it is.
Gabby Ianniello (24:07):
The benefit that US Millennials had is the
internet, obviously, right? Ifyou don't have examples of
people doing alternative shit,you're not going to know it
exists, and you're not going topursue it. So luckily, I set out
you know, an early age, I thinkI was in middle school in the
inner when I first got to playon the computer for the first
time, you know, and by the timehe's been in college, I was
seeing all these posts onInstagram and all this shit
about like, Oh, you mean I canlike get this car and do this
(24:29):
thing and have this job. Likeit's a different sort of
perspective on things. But Ithink the easiest thing and this
is something I actually hadn'tlearned the hard way this past
year with the journey that I'vetaken with corporate quitter is
that it's not knowledge thatyou're after it's actually
deprogramming that you're after.
So the whole way you're gonnamake progress is if you
literally take it from the rootand like rip out the shit that
you've learned prior to get backto who you actually are so you
(24:50):
can make progress in this newarea of life. I don't know if
that any if any of that likeclick sir. But I mean, like it's
a deep sort of not like, oh, Iread a book. I mean, like deep
ripping of the roots. So that'swhy I think millennials are so
balls to the walls is becausewe're like, Fuck it, let's just
go to therapy, not even therapytherapy is too weak or like,
again, give us the Ayahuasca,like, Let's go backpacking
(25:11):
through Europe for like afucking month without a phone.
Like, let's just completely getback to where we need to be, as
opposed to the kind ofprogrammed version of ourselves
that isn't really even ours.
It's our parents essentiallywithin us.
Nick (25:24):
Yeah. Okay.
Nancy (25:26):
All right. I'm just you know, you don't have to take
Nick (25:30):
any of the crazy coming out of her fucking years right
now.
Gabby Ianniello (25:34):
There are other methodologies that are coming
now that are not as abrasivethey're very quick and easy.
Like, there's this one calledrest therapy, love it to death,
it's not actually reallyreasonable for pricing and stuff
like that. No puking or shittinginvolved. And essentially helps
you get back to kind of theoriginal event that they say is
like, what triggered the traumaor what triggered the response.
So like, if that's your problem,binge eating, or whatever it is,
(25:56):
you think, oh, it's because of,I don't know, I have body image
issues or like whatever it is,it actually is because maybe
back then you and your dad goneto a car accident, and he ended
up helping the passenger. Yeah,it helps you get back to the
original event from when youwere a kid and it rips the root
out of that kind of thing ofhappening. So you don't respond
in the same way and it'sinstantaneous. Within three
days. It's completely clearedreally, like truly no bullshit.
(26:19):
See,
Nick (26:19):
that's that fucking millennial shit. Yeah.
Gabby Ianniello (26:21):
It's weird. But you know, it's actually based in
Europe. neuroplasticity, like,there's deep science rooted
within it. It's crazy. It is
Nick (26:29):
crazy. And I think I just want to encourage like, anybody
who's listening, I don't carewhat fucking age you are. But
anybody who's listening,especially like, people of our
generation, to really just getout of your fucking head. And
really, just like you just said,it's not about what you're
learning. It's aboutdeprogramming. And that to me,
right there, just what you said,there is so fucking deep to me
(26:52):
that alone, I'll probably takethat from this whole
conversation. And take that withme because that is the I talked
about regurgitation. People arejust living off of what they've
been told over and over again.
And it fucking makes me sick.
And I have to, but I always knewthat's what it was like, I hate
(27:13):
fucking authority. I hate rules.
I don't want anybody telling mewhat to do. I want to do
whatever the fuck I want to dowhenever I want to fucking do
it. But I've always beensubdued. I've always been, well,
this could happen or well, thatcan happen not about well, this
could happen. You know what Imean? Like you're here with you.
When it happens. It happens.
Gabby Ianniello (27:35):
The cool thing is that when you fuck up enough
times, you're like, oh, like, Isurvived. Like, I survived 100%
of the days that I sucked up andyou're like, Yeah, you're right.
Yeah. I mean, how much worsecould have possibly get, like
losing? I mean, I don't know. Idon't know how bad life can get
but I mean, if you experience itonce, you kind of you're become
invincible. Really. You embracedon't give. Truly. And that's
(27:57):
where like nothing you'rebasically everyone says to like,
what makes them successful, orlike, you know, you speak to
people who've had just like,crazy success, like Lady Gaga as
of the world and whatever.
Almost all of them will say it'saudacity and not skill or
knowledge all you know, so it's,there's something to be said,
there.
Nick (28:15):
That's awesome. I appreciate that. That's fucking
deprogramming shit now is goingto stick with me and I'm going
to use it over and over again.
So don't like copyrighted oranything, because I'll have to
ask you if I can use it.
Gabby Ianniello (28:27):
Can I give you a challenge? Fuck yeah. Okay, so
there's a you don't have to readthis book by Shonda Rhimes
called year vs. It's the womanwho wrote Grey's Anatomy, she
writes all the other stuff, youdon't have to read the book. But
the concept is to say yes toeverything. And so you don't do
it for a full year. Try it formaybe a day, try it for a week,
try it for a month, I did it fora whole year. And that's
partially why I did the nakedretreat and other things and
(28:48):
quitting a job like, yeah, and alot of other things that were
small, but really, like, took abig path, you know, for big
country. And so ever since then,it's changed my perspective,
like old version of Gabby wouldsay no to this because I don't
want to go out or I don't wantto get ready or I'm a homebody
or this is scary. Or this isgoing to cost money, or whatever
it is. But now like new Gabbywould say yes. Or and if she
doesn't, let's just try it. Andso it's actually open doors that
(29:10):
open conversations or even likehonestly jobs, and things have
come out of the woodwork becauseI I basically had a year of yes,
that's try that for a week. Andit could be something like small
to like,
Nick (29:21):
oh, yeah, I was gonna say because she's already having an
anxiety attack over here. She'sliterally like gasping for air.
I mean,
Gabby Ianniello (29:29):
again, it can be small. So like for example,
if someone asked me hey, can Ihave $1 Sure you can have $1 and
then end up having aconversation with that person
and learn something new wherelike you actually feel better
about yourself because you ableyou were able to give back or
like you know someone asked foradvice and all of a sudden
you're on your you know, one ofyour employees or you're
chatting them up for an hour andyou learn so much about them and
this happens in the I don't knowit's just yeah, you never know
where it's gonna take you youdon't have to say like my a lot
(29:51):
of my big yeses that year forexample. I like went on a cabo
trip for free with this guy witha bunch of people had no I
should not have gone but it wasa great learning experience. and
also fucked up shit happen onthat trip. But again like man,
it's it's another experience totuck in my belt have stories to
share for the future which wasvaluable for me.
Nick (30:09):
Yeah, the cool thing is I'll be talking to her about
like this 50 acres I want andshe has to say yes.
Gabby Ianniello (30:16):
Okay, that's manipulation
Unknown (30:22):
to each other world coming.
Nick (30:28):
So you have a lot of yeses you say yes to a lot of things.
We have a lot of shit going on.
You've done a lot. But there'salso people who told you to fuck
off. Oh, all the time. A bigthing for people is they can't
take fucking rejection for ship.
It still sucks.
Gabby Ianniello (30:43):
I mean, 100%
Nick (30:45):
I interviewed a girl that her life was about being
rejected at a young age at ayoung young it affected her it
affected her life. I mean, it'sfucked up. So spill some
rejection, how do you deal withthe rejection? Because
Nancy (31:01):
I mean, you know, you're saying go for it and do all this
stuff. But part of that isrejection hills that, yeah,
like, What the hell did I do?
Why did I do this? You know, whydid I listen to you quit my job?
Gabby Ianniello (31:13):
No, I know, people have said that to me,
too. So part of me is like, Ohmy God, I feel responsible. But
the end of the day, and how doyou make you do anything? Yeah,
whatever. Disclaimer, yeah, buta rejection is a hard thing.
Because sometimes rejection ismasked in other ways. A big
rejection. For me, it wasn'teven a direct rejection. But it
was something that actuallyalmost fucked me up for a really
good time. Basically, two yearsago, before I went viral, and
(31:34):
like corporate quarter evenbecame what it was about midway
through the summer, I started todo like videos online, like kind
of started to do what I do now,which is like documenting
everything which people love.
But at the time, I was datingsomeone who hated it, and he
would walk up vocalize I hatethis, and I think it's cringy.
And you'd be like, my friendsare making fun of you. Like he
was very vocal about it. And yeteveryone else in my world was
like, okay with it, when I wouldask my brother like, is it a guy
(31:55):
thing? Like, what am I doingwrong? And he's like, no, no,
no, he's probably just insecure,like you guys should talk about
it was the first fight we evergotten to. And I remember being
in my backyard sobbing becausethat all I wanted to do was for
him to understand, like, this ismy creative process. And I'm
going to try this for 30 days,please, let's just see what
happens. Just trust me. And youknow it within 29 days, I went
mega viral, I hit major 45,000people had seen something. And
(32:15):
that's what started all of this.
And he never wants to apologize.
And even when the media tourcame, never congratulated it for
me, you know, he was just alwayslike, oh, like, must be nice.
Oh, I should have that becauseI'm more successful than
breaking up for good reasons.
But honestly, up until this pastsummer, it was still haunting
me. And it was helping, it wasturning and holding me back for
(32:36):
a really long time. Sorejection, in that sense, was
just actually someone who Iloved and cared for. And that
was the only person's approval Ireally wanted was so deeply
rooted to the point that I wasshutting myself down. And I
wasn't letting myself be assparkly as I could have been.
Which is crazy, because I'malready crazy to begin with. I
think of now like, again, usethe person that I saw on my
Austin trip, like, wow, this isme fully expressed, like, and
(32:57):
the cringe veil has kind of beenlifted. Like I literally don't
care anymore. What couldpossibly happen. But that took
two years to kind of remove thatout. Net something injection is
very heavy, and it's just amatter of finding tools that
work for you. So at one point intime, it was like heavy
exercise. And I realized, Idon't like this, so let's do
something different. So itbecame weird shit, like, Okay,
let's go dance around it likefull moon circles. And then it
(33:19):
became like, okay, let's justlike read, Let's meditate. Let's
go on vacations on paint. Likeit was a variety. Anything. I
mean, sometimes it's justbecause go for a walk and listen
to a podcast. That's funny.
Like, I mean, it doesn't have tobe again, crazy. But it's
finding ways to mitigate thetrigger response that happens
when you get rejected both inthe way of, let's say, a nasty
comment or getting a no from aprospective client. Or for the
most people, it's rejection fromyour immediate family and
(33:42):
friends who are seeing you trysomething new, because they're
uncomfortable because you'redoing something that they wish
they could do.
Nick (33:48):
Yes. Oh, yeah. 100%. Okay.
That's where it mostly goes toanyway. Right. Exactly. Okay. So
cool. I mean, dude, this hasbeen a cool conversation for me.
I mean, I'm so excited that yousaid yes. And didn't reject us.
Gabby Ianniello (34:05):
Come on, I wouldn't say no.
Nick (34:09):
So where are you at? Now?
What are you doing now? BecauseI know we've seen that there's a
couple other things going on.
You got some weird shit goingon. You have a lot of shit going
on? Not sure. What did I evendid I even hear well, maybe I
shouldn't know anything.
Nothing's ask the question. So Imean, you're you I saw that
you're even like even with thepodcast, you're thinking about
maybe getting rid of it orselling it?
Gabby Ianniello (34:33):
Yeah, that's been so there's a lot of things
in the works. So again, like theI've been kind of putting seeds
out and making havingconversations and again, like
being in flow is when thingscome in easily. And so trouble
months ago, I stopped thepodcast just because I was kind
of losing direction like after125 episodes is kind of the same
shit. You're like, what am Igonna do now? Right? At one
point, I was talking to a coupledifferent people talking like
(34:53):
numbers and like how could Isell this as a business as well
as like, my intellectualproperty and like where it could
be headed? But I also realizedthat Corp Whatever, even if it's
not necessarily I'm not tied tocorporate anymore, it could
still be my brand, right? It'sstill who I am. It's what I
embody. Beyond that, you know,so it's in its infancy in terms
of being rebranded and figuringout what that's going to look
like. But I do have a craving toget back into it. Because
(35:14):
naturally, I really like beingin the podcast world. But the
past two year, I would say, I'vebeen doing more consulting work
as I've been on hiatus with theshow, so helping people launch
their shows do digital, normal,all that stuff. Yeah, social
media script, writing forvideos, all of that. And then of
course, I mean, there's a hugelist of things that I do, right,
I have my painting stuff peoplehave inquired to sell like to
(35:34):
buy them, but I'm just not inthe place of selling them yet. I
do have an art exhibit that'sprobably going to I think it's
happening winter of this year,which is really exciting. I'm
writing a manuscript like Ijust, I a lot of things just
drop in very quickly, and then Irun with it. And that's kind of
the way I operate is it'll bequiet, like crickets for a
while. And I was gonna say, Idon't
Unknown (35:51):
know what kind of crickets this
Gabby Ianniello (35:56):
guy Yes. Which, yeah, you get it. So it's like
crickets in the sense of like,I'm not zigging and zagging
throughout the day is like, Oh,we're just like street light.
Like we're flatlining today.
Yeah, that, to me is a quietdead day. But so my focus is
really just being in flow, likemaintaining this happy sort of
bubbly kind of self that I'm inand being around people who also
make me feel this way and doingthings that reflect that so that
I can call in more of thoseopportunities that fall into
(36:18):
nowhere. But so now I'm justkind of trying to figure out
okay, what's this nextiteration? How are we blending
all the things that I've beendoing? The brand deals with the
consulting work with? Now,again, the manuscript and the
publisher, I'm talking to youlike just a lot of random stuff
that's going on, so that I canleave and go back to Austin,
which is ultimately where I wantto be. And that was a clear
confirmation after lax weektrip. I know. Yeah, we wants me
(36:39):
just as much as I want.
Nick (36:43):
I think that's awesome.
And I think that corporatequitter I seen as it worked for
you in the very beginning,because that's what it was. I
think of it, though, as an allaround thing in life, right,
that can be applied to anything.
Quitting anything that's fuckedup or not even done with. That's
(37:04):
pretty awesome. Thanks foryou're doing like the consulting
and shit. So where can peopleactually then find you and get a
hold of you? And we can tell youthat you won't be fucking
disappointed. And they've nowknow who you are. Because they
know what a crazy nut job thatyou are in. It's so fucking
(37:25):
awesome to us. Where do you wantme to go to find you?
Gabby Ianniello (37:28):
Yeah, I mean, obviously, corporate quarters
easiest thing to find thehighest in the Google search all
over social my handles arecorporate Twitter. But I also
have a personal website calledGabby, I Anello my name. And
then the actual agency as shelikes to gab. So that's where
you'll find like a blog that hasresources like free things for
you. Yeah. So we've got a lot ofdifferent things going on,
depending on what your flavor isessentially.
Nick (37:49):
Cool. Thank you so much.
So yeah, thanks. So we'll haveto get back together again. Or
if you get the podcast gone,we'll just shoot the ship and
have fun with it. Oh,
Gabby Ianniello (37:58):
you guys are definitely coming on for sure to
talk business but we obviouslywill. Of course, yeah. Packed up
stories. Alright, girl. Allright. Love you. Thanks. Thank
you.
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