March 28, 2025 • 27 mins
And the F WORD is: Fearlessly Facing our FACES as we age. Today my guest is Joshua Hardinger, an incredible makeup artist specializing in mature skin who transforms women's confidence through his artistic approach to makeup. He shares his philosophy of enhancing natural beauty rather than changing it, helping women rediscover themselves.
• Joshua's background as an artist from Ringling College of Art and Design influences his approach to makeup
• His specialty in mature skin comes from seeing beauty where women sometimes lose confidence
• The power of seeing someone "perk up and sit taller" after a makeup application
• Practical tips for mature skin: avoid powder, apply concealer strategically at tear ducts
• Place blush high on cheekbones instead of apples for a lifted appearance
• Match foundation to the inside of your wrist to find your true shade
• Women often deflect compliments instead of simply accepting them
• Stop fighting aging and embrace who you are right now
"Let go of the little stuff and just keep killing it. Just keep moving forward. Don't overthink the little stuff or care about what anybody thinks, because it's your mind, it's your matrix."
Connect with Joshua here
Joshua Hardinger is a Makeup Artist and Fine Artist. He is currently a specialist for makeup on mature skin. Joshua paints, draws, and produces murals. He is currently a master makeup artist at Ana Molinari Salon Spa Boutique.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, fearless friends , it's Amy Schmidt and I'm so
excited to be back with a newand improved Fearlessly Facing
50 and Beyond show, a show toinspire women to be fearless and
fabulous at any age.
We're going to be talking allthe things fearlessly facing
those F-words you know, likefashion, finances, friendship,
fitness, foods, faith,forgiveness, fads and FOMO.
(00:22):
We are going to be digging intothose much-needed conversations
and invite you to be part ofthe fun.
Today's guest is the incredibleJoshua Hardinger.
I met Joshua a year ago.
He is an incredible makeupartist and fine art artist here
in the Sarasota area and doesmakeup all around the country.
He actually graduated from theRingling College of Art and
(00:45):
Design and is a specialist formakeup on mature skin.
So we are already loving thisconversation.
So welcome to the show, joshuaHardinger.
Hey, fearless friends, it's AmySchmidt and I am so excited to
be back here behind the mic andyou know this show is all about
(01:06):
being fearless, being fabulous.
But you know what we aretackling.
Those F-words, yeah, thoseF-words.
We talk about it all.
We talk about fearlessly facing, fashion and fitness and food
and family and friendships andour future, and what other words
I mean.
There's so many, but you knowwhat.
We do it with confidence andconfidence, and the guests that
I have, the experts andeverybody that I bring on, all
(01:29):
has a special, not only a storyto share, kind of, behind their
brand, but the expertise thatthey're going to bring you these
tips that are tangibletakeaways that you can apply to
your life wherever you are.
So that's what it's about todayand I'm super excited because I
will do a drum roll.
I you are.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
So that's what it's about today, and I'm super
excited because I will do a drumroll.
I should have a soundbite for adrum roll, right?
Speaker 1 (01:48):
I mean, I need something like that little
rockets I have with me today.
Joshua Hardinger Got it right.
Yes, no, absolutely, Eventhough the Deutsch way, because
I did live in Germany for solong Hardinger, hardinger.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Yeah, I am so excited to have you here.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
I'm so excited to have you here.
I'm so excited to be here.
Thank you so much for having me.
I met you last year.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
You are so welcome.
I met you last year.
Joshua is an amazing makeupartist and also an artist.
Yes, beyond, just a makeupartist and artist, and we're
going to get into all of that.
I had the pleasure of meetingyou a year ago.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Yes, it was a year ago, isn't that crazy?
Speaker 1 (02:25):
It a year ago.
Yes, it was a year ago, isn'tthat crazy Time's flown.
I was looking at my calendarand I'm like, wow, I went in and
I got to share, because I getmy makeup done yes, and I love
to have my makeup done.
And I went into Joshua, andactually he was referred from a
good friend of mine from NewYork.
She was doing some research andshe said go see if I can get an
appointment.
I went in, I was going to be onTV, brand new in Florida,
hadn't even been to the stationbefore, and you looked at me and
(02:47):
you just said this is going tobe awesome.
And I remember it becauseyou're just like all right, what
do you want?
This is what I'm thinking.
What are you thinking?
But then we got deeper thanthat.
We started talking about reallythe value in life after 50.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
really the value in life after 50.
Yes, yeah, how, how, how manywomen who come sit in my chair,
and I specialize in mature skin,that's always been something
that's mature skin mature skin.
Yeah, it's, it's.
It's so much more than justmakeup.
It's it's making someone feellike them again.
You know, and I know there's alot that we kind of feel that we
don't have.
Or people come and sit down andthey want a makeup lesson or
(03:29):
they want this and like, oh,I've been doing my makeup the
same since I've been 16 yearsold and I'm 60 now, or I'm 50
now and things have changed andit's amazing that we can still
be fabulous after 50.
It's absolutely possible.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Well, and you see it every day, I mean, and obviously
you do you kind of specializein mature skin, which I love,
but you do all ages, yes, andwe'll talk about that and all
the services that you offer.
But I think that's so coolbecause so many women, like I
said, the F-words, like it'sseriously facing these F-words,
and there's not a day, I have tobe honest that.
(04:07):
You know, I don't look in themirror and I'm like, okay, wow,
this has changed, this isshifted, this is dropped.
This is wow, I look different.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
And it's hard to step away from that feeling of oh,
it is, it is.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
I think you know, when you stare at the same thing
over and over and over again,yeah, and trying to perfect it,
when it's like maybe you shouldjust change the whole room, yeah
, right, rearrange some things.
There's so many people who Iknow they're like, oh, but do
you see, this?
This is just a little too low.
Or this is this.
And their friend will be likeoh, that's so silly, you're
being so silly, that's such asilly thing.
(04:45):
But do you see my eye here?
And then they'll go and it'slike but don't you see, you're
being so silly too.
It's like we're going to getcaught up on these things that
people don't see.
And I see a lot of people tryto change that and focus on it
and they end up making it moreprominent, trying to hide it.
So much Trying to hide it.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
I want to share something because I think we
talked about this last year too.
I think it was on what Not toWear.
Years ago there was a segmentthat had a woman on and she was
in her fifties and she wassupposed to line herself up in
kind of a line and it was sizedso smallest to largest and this
woman was supposed to go andinsert herself where she thought
(05:23):
she was in that lineup.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Oh gosh yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
She immediately went heavier, larger, bigger than she
was.
You know, we look at ourself insuch a way.
There's a project I'm going tobe working on that I'm excited
about.
That's how others kind ofperceive you and how you
perceive yourself, and I thinkthat's immediately what we do.
We don't look at our.
We're such an inner critic, wehave such a strong inner critic.
(05:49):
Oh, yes, yeah, and we need thecheerleader.
So let's talk a little bitbefore we get into makeup.
I want to hear your story,because that's some of the best
part of it why you're doing whatyou're doing, how your
creativity and all that you dokind of intersected your passion
and your purpose.
I always like to hear the storybehind how that happened.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Well, I grew up in a very artistic home.
My mother was an artist, myfather was an artist, my
grandfather and grandmother onboth of their sides were all
artists, really.
So I absolutely did not have achoice.
Looking back and I lovedfigurative art and doing faces
and portraiture.
(06:27):
I ended up going to RinglingCollege of Art and Design and
graduating from the illustrationdepartment which was number two
in the United States.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
And.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
I do a lot of photorealistic portraiture and
as a young kid I don't knowbeauty somehow came into that.
I had an older sister who's afew years older than me and I
think she was getting ready fora party or something.
I just remember her big, brown,curly hair in the mirror and
she put on this earring and shedid something with makeup and I
thought and that was it.
(06:58):
It was so cool just to watchthe transformation of that.
So then I fell in love withmakeup and painting faces or
painting on faces.
It was very, very blended howlight and shadow and anatomy and
coloring and all that goes intomakeup as well as fine art and
portraiture.
So yeah, I came from theoutside Philadelphia area and
(07:24):
went to college here and I lovedit and I've stayed.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
And you stayed.
Good old Sarasota, it's not abad place to be.
Not at all.
No.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
It's amazing A slice of paradise, absolutely here
yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
So when women come into your studio and sit in the
chair, what's the first thing?
Speaker 2 (07:41):
you think?
The first thing, I think, is Iquickly grab everything mentally
around them to gather theirpersonality.
That, I think, is a huge partof me.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Walk me through that, that's so interesting.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
There's people who I see them walk in the room and
they're kind of very simple andthey're first going off.
Oh no, I know I don't haveeyebrows or I don't have that or
I can't do this.
I'm like okay you're allnatural.
I understand.
You don't have to worry aboutit.
There's other people who theycome in and they're, they want
this, and I can just tell thatthey're glam.
They're just a glam.
That's who they are.
They want big lashes.
(08:13):
They want you know that's justwho their personality is.
And then also evaluating andasking what do you wear every
day anyways?
Yeah, you know, cause I kind ofwant to understand like some
people love, like they wouldn'tleave without lipstick, right,
right, you know.
So my mom told me that everyday, and there's people who just
need mascara and that's it, youknow.
So I kind of want to go okay,so you're more, you want to go
(08:34):
with stronger colors here.
You might want to go with moreeyes here, right, and just
evaluating and making sure thatthey, they look like themselves.
Yeah, cause that's something Icannot stand.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
We're getting away from that so much.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Why make you look like someone else?
You don't want to be someoneelse.
I want to enhance every part ofyou and I think the biggest
compliment in the world is if,when I show someone in the
mirror and they cry and they'relike I didn't know.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
That's their mascara.
Yeah Well, it's the ultimatetest, because nothing moves.
That's their mascara.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Yeah Well, it's the ultimate test, because nothing
moves, I love it.
You know, I say to them everytime you know, I didn't give you
anything you don't have.
Now you see what I see.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
I got goosebumps.
I didn't give you anything youdon't have.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Exactly, it's not.
You know, this washes right off.
This isn't plastic surgery.
This is you.
Yeah, I'm seeing who you are onthe inside and I'm bringing
that forward.
Yeah, instead of you.
Why else would you find meRight?
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Right, right, exactly , and it's enhancing those parts
of you that I remember.
On me specifically, you werelike, yeah, and I'm sure and I
preach this all the time becauseI try not to get into the habit
of oh, my right eye.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
I don't want the camera from this way, and I know
I do that?
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Yeah, we all do.
Yeah, I know I do that.
I share the story of when I wason the Mel Robbins show in New
York City when she firstlaunched.
It was one of her first shows.
It was all about somethingabout life after 50.
And I felt like I rocked it.
The segment it wasn't live, itwas being taped and I'm like, oh
, this was awesome.
My team was there and I hadsome friends there and I'm like
this is so awesome.
Until the day that the producercalled and said, hey, this show
(10:12):
is going to air like onWednesday, so now you can get it
out in your social media.
I was like, oh, no, Like I don'twant a lot of times watch
myself on TV.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Oh yeah, I completely understand that.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
And what I appreciated about you and when
you worked with me several timesit was like just be yourself,
like just you know.
You never said your right eyeis really droopy, amy, like I
really need to pick that up.
You just went in there and havethis ability to take the
authenticity not take that awayand just enhance your features
(10:45):
in such a way that are and whata gift that is.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Thank you, it is.
It is an absolute honor to dothat with people, um to to
really just truly make someonefeel like in their own skin.
Again, I remember this onewoman sitting in my chair and
this still gets me to this day.
But she sat down and she waslike I know, I understand.
Before she said anything, she'slike no, I understand, if you
(11:10):
can't do my eyes, I understand.
My eyes are very difficult.
And I was like Whoa, what areyou?
What are you talking about?
Like I've already figured in myhead, I've already figured out
what I'm going to do Right butshe's.
She's like well, I know my eyesare very difficult and I'm like
I don't, I don't foresee anydifficult difficulties with your
eyes and I kind of was like,where's this coming from?
And she was like, oh well, youknow, one day I went and got my
makeup done and the makeupartists you know got really from
(11:33):
what I understand, we got veryfrustrated because she had
hooded eyes, naturally hoodedeyes and couldn't figure out her
makeup.
Anyways, wiped it off, gave upand said your eyes are too
difficult to her.
Really, she was 13 years old andshe was in my chair at 47,
carrying that with her for 35years, yeah, and I did her
(11:55):
makeup and, of course, thereshe's crying, I'm crying, yeah,
and I'm just like who?
Like shame on that, exactly.
Exactly Little teenager whocouldn't do it.
Maybe they weren't an adult.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
I don't know Right, who knows yeah?
You know, when in your life?
Speaker 2 (12:09):
when in your life did you stop being fabulous?
Right, you know when.
When does that really come to afall?
When?
When are you going to realizethat you are fabulous?
Yeah, you know, and you arefabulous, and I love giving that
back to people.
It's like when did you stop?
I see it, Other people see it.
Now it's your turn.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
It's your turn to see it.
Yeah, exactly, exactly.
Oh, I think that's so great.
So give me another story,because I love the stories,
because women that are watchingand listening will say I don't
need to get my makeup done, Idon't want to.
I shouldn't even be wearingmakeup anymore, I'm too old.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Any stories Like somebody's come in and you've
just, I mean, I love that storyabout the eyes because I had
this one woman who came in andthis was actually pretty
recently and she had one eyeMore.
We all kind of have differentdifferences in our face, but her
one eye was a little bit largerthan the other eye yeah.
I don't know if that was justbirth or an accident or whatever
(13:03):
, but she was kind of curious onhow to do this and I was like,
well, you just make the eyelinerthicker here and we're just
going to change this, I'm goingto lift this eyebrow and we're
going to create the illusion.
And that was the whole point ofit is like the illusion.
Yeah, you know, it's notbecause the shadow of how it hit
her face was already making theillusion that she had a deeper
(13:23):
set eye than the other.
Right, so it started as anillusion, right, you know, it is
light and shadow, it ischanging that and she looked,
she was like, oh my God, she waslike I, that's me, yeah, I look
(13:45):
like, I, look like me, I looklike me.
And just her confidence justthe way you literally see
someone perk up and sit uptaller is amazing.
Gosh, I have so many.
I'm trying to think of a few,but it's very nice to just give
that to somebody.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
And have that gift of confidence again, I think
that's huge.
And I think one of your giftstoo because I've had a lot of
makeup artists over the years isthe fact that you're kind of a
mentor, you kind of teach as you, you have a conversation, and
unless it's five in the morning,which we've done- a couple of
times and we have coffee andthat's about it.
But you do, you have aconversation, you kind of get to
(14:17):
know the person and you alsokind of teach Now that woman can
walk away with a tool in hertool belt.
That's like all right, I can dothis at home.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Yes, timeless.
That is something that's verycool too is when I do someone's
makeup and it's not a lesson Ijust do their makeup Right, and
maybe they go home now they seewhat I saw.
Yes, and it can be simple,right?
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Let's talk about that because you know people
watching.
I mean I have drawers of makeup, although here I really pared
down and I only I'm reallytrying to be very intentional
about what I'm using and how I'musing it and you've taught me a
little bit of that.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
That know you have to be.
You don't need a ton ofproducts.
But let's walk through a feweasy steps that somebody
listening today can say okay,I'm going to do this, I'm going
to go to Target or I'm going togo to Sephora.
I'm going to go somewhere.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Yeah, you can, whether it's drugstore or it's
high end, it's more at yourtaste or your budget.
It's high end, right, it's moreat your taste or your budget,
and I think a big one is theeyes.
Okay, a lot of of my matureskin clients are terrified of,
like, what I'm going to do withthe eyes.
Are you going to put powderunder my eyes?
Are you going to make me creepyand crinkly?
(15:33):
Chalky looking Are you going toput black here?
Are you going to you know?
And it's like, and it's allhorrifying, we're all going.
Oh yeah, we hear you.
I'd say always avoid powder.
You almost never need powderunless you have very oily skin.
Now there's some people whojust have skin that eats makeup
and it doesn't matter what youdo and they look just great.
I'm one of the people that youput the wrong product on my skin
(15:56):
.
You could count my pores.
I look oily, so it depends onyour skin chemistry.
but taking concealer and Ialways see people doing
concealer the wrong way- andthey'll take it and they'll put
it right under their eye, righton the purple spot, right, cause
that's what you want to cover.
Right?
No, what you want to do isnever put makeup here.
I would put it right here, inthe darkest corner of your eye.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Okay, darkest corner of your eye.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Bring it down into your nose.
What that's going to do isflatten this whole plane and
make this plane look flat.
Gets rid of the ring.
It gets rid of the darknesshere.
The bags, the bags.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Oh wow.
And you can take the concealerhere.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
And pop it here and clean this up, almost go.
You had a straight line.
Everything you want to do iskeep at these angles.
It'll lift the face, lift itthe jawline, the cheekbone, the
eye.
It'll all coordinate the same,like 45 degree angle wow and you
keep the light here and keepthe light here and blend that
all and what you do is you don'tknow when it ever has, unless
(16:58):
you have darkness which you canstill bring the concealer to,
but you have less happening inthe middle.
I mean there's just less productthere.
Less product to crease, lessproduct to it keeps it smooth.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Yeah, good point, and leave it wet.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Unless it's a super oily concealer.
Keep it wet.
Interesting, I would never usepowder and you're going to kind
of glow.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Which is very in supposedly Glowy dewy skin.
Glowy dewy skin, yeah.
So for those that aren'twatching, that might be just
listening.
So you're kind of taking itright at the tear duct,
basically.
Yes, exactly and over out tothe outer edge.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Exactly Okay.
Yeah, because the purple that'sdark here in the eye is really
what's making us look tired.
There's not so much the undereye as much as it is the inside.
You want to brighten that area.
Yeah, interesting, just openyour face make you look a little
bit lighter.
Yeah, I would say keeping yournow I'm careful when I say this
(17:52):
but keeping your brows not dark,but maybe a little colored.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Yes, you have to.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
Even if you have microbladed brows and they're
still kind of going gray orgreen Right, just popping a
little bit of an ashy brown withyour blonde, like for you, or
maybe like a honey or a chestnutbrown if you have dark hair and
putting blush, a little bit ofblush A little bit of blush.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
How do you do the blush?
I mean, do you really smile andthen put it in your little
apples of your cheeks?
I wouldn't do that.
My mom told me that.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
I would actually keep it high on the cheekbone.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Yeah, everything.
That way, I would keepeverything high on the cheekbone
.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Yeah, that would be helpful Because with this you
putting product here is going tomake you look is going to make
this look droopy, right?
So if you keep the product here, it's going to make you look
carved.
Yeah, yeah, I honestly somepeople this might sound crazy.
Take a shimmery pretty pinklipstick or lip gloss.
Pop it on your cheek.
Okay, a little hack right there,it'll be so glowy and dewy and
(18:46):
just give you that kind ofyouthful blushed.
You know you look at youngpeople.
They have, like rosy cheeks,bushy eyebrows.
You know what?
I mean so it's a really quickway to just kind of bring a
useful.
Those are great tips, yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Easy peasy and out the door and you feel good, you
feel confident.
You know it's funny, I don'tknow what it was.
Several months ago I was in NewYork and I had to be, and my
makeup artist there actually wassick and ended up in the
hospital, and called me and saidAmy, I can't do it.
You know I don't.
I'm like, oh no, this isterrible and I was panicking.
I gotta be honest, I waspanicking.
(19:23):
I was with a friend and we wentto CVS.
It's like eight o'clock atnight and I'm on at five.
You know I'm in the city atfive and my girlfriend and I are
.
We actually did a funny videoabout I walked into CVS because
I didn't really bring makeupwith me, because I knew I was
having someone do it and I'mlike, oh my God, Like there's 16
different shades of foundation.
(19:46):
Yes, so give us a quick tip onlike if you walk in, whether
it's high end, whatever cosmeticor whatever, or you go to
Target or CVS, and you'restanding there and you're
looking at L'Oreal and thinkingokay, what matches.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Yeah, Color matching.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
I would say always avoid oranges.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
I think a lot of people there's few people who
are more bronze, or maybe youhave a self-tanner that that
might suit you.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Right.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
But I think people tend to be a little bit more of
like porcelain pink.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
Yeah, lighter than you normally would think.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Sandy beige kind of color.
That's more me, and then a lotof makeup companies go orange.
I don't know if it's a, if it'scheaper for the product
manufacturer.
I don't know but I know thatit's there's.
That's very prevalent and youcan always match the inside of
your wrist.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
I was just going to ask where do we match inside of
our wrists, ladies?
Speaker 2 (20:37):
all right, okay, that's good to know you need
like a blush or a lip color yeahor maybe a really pretty pink
eyeshadow.
You can take your finger andsqueeze it and then that pink is
going to be the undertones thatyou want to use really.
So, like you know, for me, youcan see, I'm kind of like a.
I'm like kind of red and purple.
I am super and you are like,that's why.
(20:59):
But look at all the pinks andthe corals and all the colors
that you wear and you like.
That is crazy and I'm moremauve, right?
Yeah, so I can get away withthose darker colors.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
I never knew that.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
That's amazing, Everybody's like whoa, that's a
mic drop.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
So we're going to talk real quickly because we got
to wind it.
I want to have you back.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
And actually.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
I want to do something where you're actually
making a couple of women over.
Yeah, so we're going to do that.
So stay tuned for all of that,because Joshua is just such a
talent in so many ways.
So let's talk about compliments, because I brought this and for
those of you that are listening, you can't see it, but you've
heard me talk about it becausethis tell me something good jar.
I have an artist out of NewYork that designs these little
jars for me, and I talk aboutthe fact that so many women
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deflect compliments.
You know you're standing inline at a restroom or something.
Because I talk to everybody.
I'll be like, oh, that colorlooks great on you, you look so
fabulous.
And first of all, she'll belike who is that crazy lady?
And then she'll be like, oh,really, because I'm 10 pounds
heavier because, of COVID or I'm, oh really, Because I got a TJ
Maxx for $9.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
I mean how many of us ?
Speaker 1 (22:05):
When women, when you give them compliments, did they
simply say thank you or do theydeflect too?
Speaker 2 (22:10):
I notice the deflection very often and I'm a
little.
I'm very confident and sassy,maybe.
So, you know, I remember therewas this one woman in the salon
and she was just sitting gettingher color done and I looked at
her and she looked at me and Iwas.
I don't know why she waslooking at me, but I know I was
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looking at her because her facewas just so pretty.
You know, she just had reallyjust just a very pretty woman
and an older woman and olderthan me.
And so I walked by and wecatted each other's face one
more time and I just turned toher and said you have such a
pretty face.
And she me and I was like yes,you have such a pretty face, you
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.
And she was just like oh, and Ijust put my hand on her
shoulder and said you're welcome, and she was like yes, thank
you.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
But she wasn't going to accept that.
Do you know what I mean?
And I have people who do thatall the time.
They're like, oh, no, no, andit's like no, it's like, just
take in that, I take it in.
Someone else thinks that you'rebeautiful, oh you know you have
to at some point you have tostop fighting yourself and stop
fighting aging, and stopfighting what it means and
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embrace what it is you know.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Say that again.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Stop fighting so much what you think it is what it's
going to be and embracing whatit is what you have, you know
and not fighting.
What?
The idea of oh my gosh, I'm 50.
I should be doing this, Ishould have this accomplished,
or I should have done this.
I should have done this better,I should have been a better mom
.
Whatever, have thisaccomplished or I should have
done this.
I should have done this better.
I should have been a better mom.
Whatever it is it's like.
No, you are where you are forexactly the reasons you're
supposed to be, and embrace andaccept that.
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This is the version of you, whoit is, because, unfortunately,
you see it back in the mirror.
There's going to be one personstaring back Exactly.
You have to love that person oraccept misery, I guess.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Exactly, exactly.
That whole compliment sayingthat's why this tell me
something good jar.
You write down the complimentAt the end of the day.
If somebody complimented, youwrite it down, put it in the jar
and then, when you're feelingreally blue one day, you pull it
out and you go wow, this islike the value that I'm giving
to other people are recognizingthis about me.
I'm pretty damn good.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
I agree, and you know I think a lot of people do the
opposite.
Yeah, you know, I know, for me,I struggled a lot with like my
weight and like food and otherthings growing up that I
remember someone you know,someone gave, said something
terrible about me.
I'd hold onto it and it wouldmotivate me.
Yeah, okay, I'm I'm, you know,I'm going to eat less.
I'm going to wear those boots.
(24:46):
Now I'm going to wear thoseboots every day.
It's like, you know, own it andbe who you want to be.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Powerful, powerful, love it.
All.
Right, tell us where.
Of course, joshua's in Sarasota, but you can be everywhere,
because the world of virtual isout there.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
So people listening watching today that are like wow
, because there's so much moreto dig into and you have so many
more tips and tricks that wewill share Absolutely it's
endless and to cater to theperson.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
And cater to the person.
How can they get ahold of you,how do they reach you and what
do you offer?
Speaker 2 (25:25):
So I do makeup application for every day, for
luncheons, galas, you name it,special events, weddings I do
makeup lessons.
Um, I am currently at annamolinari salon, spawned boutique
downtown sarasota.
Uh, I also can take care of youprivately, virtually.
Uh, you can reach me by phonenumber or email.
I'll put that all in the shownotes perfect I have instagram.
Yeah, beauty by hh design,joshua hardinger art.
Yeah, I, I do it all.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
So you've got a lot going.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
I have Instagram Beauty by HH Design Joshua.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Hardinger Arts.
I do it all and you've got alot going on in the art world
here too.
Yes, yeah, so just briefly inour last minute here, tell me
about that.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
Well, I work with one of my great friends, stephanie,
with Bray Productions.
She does Art Lab and there'sgoing to be actually a featured
Art Lab this weekend, so we'reall very excited for that.
This Saturday at Living Vogue,we are going to have all these
featured artists, local artists.
(26:10):
It's like a gallery peoplebreathing and dancing fire.
You know we've had livemermaids swimming in the pool
before.
So it's a different themechampagne at the door, so fun.
Yeah, I work with a lot ofartists and have my art featured
a few murals downtown and artelsewhere.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
That's amazing.
You got it going on.
You got it going on.
Thank you.
I'm so happy that our pathscrossed.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Me too.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
And I just really admire the work that you do, the
gift that you give to womenthat come in, and it's
incredible.
So please reach out to Joshua.
And then our last question,which I ask everybody, is if you
were sitting on the couch andyou looked over and there you
were, at 30, what advice wouldyou give yourself?
What would you tell youryounger self?
Speaker 2 (26:57):
I'd say let go of the little stuff and just keep
killing it.
Just keep moving forward.
Don't overthink the littlestuff and just keep killing it.
Just keep moving forward.
Don't overthink the littlestuff or care about what anybody
thinks, because it's your mind,it's your matrix.
Let it unfold and manifestexactly how you want it to be.
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You get what you focus on, andfocus on what you want, what you
need.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Love it.
That's awesome.
No one's ever said that beforein all of the episodes.
There's always some overlap.
I love that.
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
I love everything you do, Amy.
I love the confidence andsupport you give to women.
It's so important.
I appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
Well, we'll see you soon.
You'll be back on.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Thanks so much for listening today.
We know how valuable your timeis and that's why we keep it
short and sweet.
Don't forget to follow us onall the socials, and you can
check out all the links andresources in the show notes.
Until next time, go forth andbe awesome.
Hey, fearless friends , it's Amy Schmidt and I'm so
excited to be back with a newand improved Fearlessly Facing
50 and Beyond show, a show toinspire women to be fearless and
fabulous at any age.
We're going to be talking allthe things fearlessly facing
those F-words you know, likefashion, finances, friendship,
fitness, foods, faith,forgiveness, fads and FOMO.
(00:22):
We are going to be digging intothose much-needed conversations
and invite you to be part ofthe fun.
Today's guest is the incredibleJoshua Hardinger.
I met Joshua a year ago.
He is an incredible makeupartist and fine art artist here
in the Sarasota area and doesmakeup all around the country.
He actually graduated from theRingling College of Art and
(00:45):
Design and is a specialist formakeup on mature skin.
So we are already loving thisconversation.
So welcome to the show, joshuaHardinger.
Hey, fearless friends, it's AmySchmidt and I am so excited to
be back here behind the mic andyou know this show is all about
(01:06):
being fearless, being fabulous.
But you know what we aretackling.
Those F-words, yeah, thoseF-words.
We talk about it all.
We talk about fearlessly facing, fashion and fitness and food
and family and friendships andour future, and what other words
I mean.
There's so many, but you knowwhat.
We do it with confidence andconfidence, and the guests that
I have, the experts andeverybody that I bring on, all
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has a special, not only a storyto share, kind of, behind their
brand, but the expertise thatthey're going to bring you these
tips that are tangibletakeaways that you can apply to
your life wherever you are.
So that's what it's about todayand I'm super excited because I
will do a drum roll.
I you are.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
So that's what it's about today, and I'm super
excited because I will do a drumroll.
I should have a soundbite for adrum roll, right?
Speaker 1 (01:48):
I mean, I need something like that little
rockets I have with me today.
Joshua Hardinger Got it right.
Yes, no, absolutely, Eventhough the Deutsch way, because
I did live in Germany for solong Hardinger, hardinger.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Yeah, I am so excited to have you here.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
I'm so excited to have you here.
I'm so excited to be here.
Thank you so much for having me.
I met you last year.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
You are so welcome.
I met you last year.
Joshua is an amazing makeupartist and also an artist.
Yes, beyond, just a makeupartist and artist, and we're
going to get into all of that.
I had the pleasure of meetingyou a year ago.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Yes, it was a year ago, isn't that crazy?
Speaker 1 (02:25):
It a year ago.
Yes, it was a year ago, isn'tthat crazy Time's flown.
I was looking at my calendarand I'm like, wow, I went in and
I got to share, because I getmy makeup done yes, and I love
to have my makeup done.
And I went into Joshua, andactually he was referred from a
good friend of mine from NewYork.
She was doing some research andshe said go see if I can get an
appointment.
I went in, I was going to be onTV, brand new in Florida,
hadn't even been to the stationbefore, and you looked at me and
(02:47):
you just said this is going tobe awesome.
And I remember it becauseyou're just like all right, what
do you want?
This is what I'm thinking.
What are you thinking?
But then we got deeper thanthat.
We started talking about reallythe value in life after 50.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
really the value in life after 50.
Yes, yeah, how, how, how manywomen who come sit in my chair,
and I specialize in mature skin,that's always been something
that's mature skin mature skin.
Yeah, it's, it's.
It's so much more than justmakeup.
It's it's making someone feellike them again.
You know, and I know there's alot that we kind of feel that we
don't have.
Or people come and sit down andthey want a makeup lesson or
(03:29):
they want this and like, oh,I've been doing my makeup the
same since I've been 16 yearsold and I'm 60 now, or I'm 50
now and things have changed andit's amazing that we can still
be fabulous after 50.
It's absolutely possible.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Well, and you see it every day, I mean, and obviously
you do you kind of specializein mature skin, which I love,
but you do all ages, yes, andwe'll talk about that and all
the services that you offer.
But I think that's so coolbecause so many women, like I
said, the F-words, like it'sseriously facing these F-words,
and there's not a day, I have tobe honest that.
(04:07):
You know, I don't look in themirror and I'm like, okay, wow,
this has changed, this isshifted, this is dropped.
This is wow, I look different.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
And it's hard to step away from that feeling of oh,
it is, it is.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
I think you know, when you stare at the same thing
over and over and over again,yeah, and trying to perfect it,
when it's like maybe you shouldjust change the whole room, yeah
, right, rearrange some things.
There's so many people who Iknow they're like, oh, but do
you see, this?
This is just a little too low.
Or this is this.
And their friend will be likeoh, that's so silly, you're
being so silly, that's such asilly thing.
(04:45):
But do you see my eye here?
And then they'll go and it'slike but don't you see, you're
being so silly too.
It's like we're going to getcaught up on these things that
people don't see.
And I see a lot of people tryto change that and focus on it
and they end up making it moreprominent, trying to hide it.
So much Trying to hide it.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
I want to share something because I think we
talked about this last year too.
I think it was on what Not toWear.
Years ago there was a segmentthat had a woman on and she was
in her fifties and she wassupposed to line herself up in
kind of a line and it was sizedso smallest to largest and this
woman was supposed to go andinsert herself where she thought
(05:23):
she was in that lineup.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Oh gosh yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
She immediately went heavier, larger, bigger than she
was.
You know, we look at ourself insuch a way.
There's a project I'm going tobe working on that I'm excited
about.
That's how others kind ofperceive you and how you
perceive yourself, and I thinkthat's immediately what we do.
We don't look at our.
We're such an inner critic, wehave such a strong inner critic.
(05:49):
Oh, yes, yeah, and we need thecheerleader.
So let's talk a little bitbefore we get into makeup.
I want to hear your story,because that's some of the best
part of it why you're doing whatyou're doing, how your
creativity and all that you dokind of intersected your passion
and your purpose.
I always like to hear the storybehind how that happened.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Well, I grew up in a very artistic home.
My mother was an artist, myfather was an artist, my
grandfather and grandmother onboth of their sides were all
artists, really.
So I absolutely did not have achoice.
Looking back and I lovedfigurative art and doing faces
and portraiture.
(06:27):
I ended up going to RinglingCollege of Art and Design and
graduating from the illustrationdepartment which was number two
in the United States.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
And.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
I do a lot of photorealistic portraiture and
as a young kid I don't knowbeauty somehow came into that.
I had an older sister who's afew years older than me and I
think she was getting ready fora party or something.
I just remember her big, brown,curly hair in the mirror and
she put on this earring and shedid something with makeup and I
thought and that was it.
(06:58):
It was so cool just to watchthe transformation of that.
So then I fell in love withmakeup and painting faces or
painting on faces.
It was very, very blended howlight and shadow and anatomy and
coloring and all that goes intomakeup as well as fine art and
portraiture.
So yeah, I came from theoutside Philadelphia area and
(07:24):
went to college here and I lovedit and I've stayed.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
And you stayed.
Good old Sarasota, it's not abad place to be.
Not at all.
No.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
It's amazing A slice of paradise, absolutely here
yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
So when women come into your studio and sit in the
chair, what's the first thing?
Speaker 2 (07:41):
you think?
The first thing, I think, is Iquickly grab everything mentally
around them to gather theirpersonality.
That, I think, is a huge partof me.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Walk me through that, that's so interesting.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
There's people who I see them walk in the room and
they're kind of very simple andthey're first going off.
Oh no, I know I don't haveeyebrows or I don't have that or
I can't do this.
I'm like okay you're allnatural.
I understand.
You don't have to worry aboutit.
There's other people who theycome in and they're, they want
this, and I can just tell thatthey're glam.
They're just a glam.
That's who they are.
They want big lashes.
(08:13):
They want you know that's justwho their personality is.
And then also evaluating andasking what do you wear every
day anyways?
Yeah, you know, cause I kind ofwant to understand like some
people love, like they wouldn'tleave without lipstick, right,
right, you know.
So my mom told me that everyday, and there's people who just
need mascara and that's it, youknow.
So I kind of want to go okay,so you're more, you want to go
(08:34):
with stronger colors here.
You might want to go with moreeyes here, right, and just
evaluating and making sure thatthey, they look like themselves.
Yeah, cause that's something Icannot stand.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
We're getting away from that so much.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Why make you look like someone else?
You don't want to be someoneelse.
I want to enhance every part ofyou and I think the biggest
compliment in the world is if,when I show someone in the
mirror and they cry and they'relike I didn't know.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
That's their mascara.
Yeah Well, it's the ultimatetest, because nothing moves.
That's their mascara.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Yeah Well, it's the ultimate test, because nothing
moves, I love it.
You know, I say to them everytime you know, I didn't give you
anything you don't have.
Now you see what I see.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
I got goosebumps.
I didn't give you anything youdon't have.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Exactly, it's not.
You know, this washes right off.
This isn't plastic surgery.
This is you.
Yeah, I'm seeing who you are onthe inside and I'm bringing
that forward.
Yeah, instead of you.
Why else would you find meRight?
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Right, right, exactly , and it's enhancing those parts
of you that I remember.
On me specifically, you werelike, yeah, and I'm sure and I
preach this all the time becauseI try not to get into the habit
of oh, my right eye.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
I don't want the camera from this way, and I know
I do that?
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Yeah, we all do.
Yeah, I know I do that.
I share the story of when I wason the Mel Robbins show in New
York City when she firstlaunched.
It was one of her first shows.
It was all about somethingabout life after 50.
And I felt like I rocked it.
The segment it wasn't live, itwas being taped and I'm like, oh
, this was awesome.
My team was there and I hadsome friends there and I'm like
this is so awesome.
Until the day that the producercalled and said, hey, this show
(10:12):
is going to air like onWednesday, so now you can get it
out in your social media.
I was like, oh, no, Like I don'twant a lot of times watch
myself on TV.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Oh yeah, I completely understand that.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
And what I appreciated about you and when
you worked with me several timesit was like just be yourself,
like just you know.
You never said your right eyeis really droopy, amy, like I
really need to pick that up.
You just went in there and havethis ability to take the
authenticity not take that awayand just enhance your features
(10:45):
in such a way that are and whata gift that is.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Thank you, it is.
It is an absolute honor to dothat with people, um to to
really just truly make someonefeel like in their own skin.
Again, I remember this onewoman sitting in my chair and
this still gets me to this day.
But she sat down and she waslike I know, I understand.
Before she said anything, she'slike no, I understand, if you
(11:10):
can't do my eyes, I understand.
My eyes are very difficult.
And I was like Whoa, what areyou?
What are you talking about?
Like I've already figured in myhead, I've already figured out
what I'm going to do Right butshe's.
She's like well, I know my eyesare very difficult and I'm like
I don't, I don't foresee anydifficult difficulties with your
eyes and I kind of was like,where's this coming from?
And she was like, oh well, youknow, one day I went and got my
makeup done and the makeupartists you know got really from
(11:33):
what I understand, we got veryfrustrated because she had
hooded eyes, naturally hoodedeyes and couldn't figure out her
makeup.
Anyways, wiped it off, gave upand said your eyes are too
difficult to her.
Really, she was 13 years old andshe was in my chair at 47,
carrying that with her for 35years, yeah, and I did her
(11:55):
makeup and, of course, thereshe's crying, I'm crying, yeah,
and I'm just like who?
Like shame on that, exactly.
Exactly Little teenager whocouldn't do it.
Maybe they weren't an adult.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
I don't know Right, who knows yeah?
You know, when in your life?
Speaker 2 (12:09):
when in your life did you stop being fabulous?
Right, you know when.
When does that really come to afall?
When?
When are you going to realizethat you are fabulous?
Yeah, you know, and you arefabulous, and I love giving that
back to people.
It's like when did you stop?
I see it, Other people see it.
Now it's your turn.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
It's your turn to see it.
Yeah, exactly, exactly.
Oh, I think that's so great.
So give me another story,because I love the stories,
because women that are watchingand listening will say I don't
need to get my makeup done, Idon't want to.
I shouldn't even be wearingmakeup anymore, I'm too old.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Any stories Like somebody's come in and you've
just, I mean, I love that storyabout the eyes because I had
this one woman who came in andthis was actually pretty
recently and she had one eyeMore.
We all kind of have differentdifferences in our face, but her
one eye was a little bit largerthan the other eye yeah.
I don't know if that was justbirth or an accident or whatever
(13:03):
, but she was kind of curious onhow to do this and I was like,
well, you just make the eyelinerthicker here and we're just
going to change this, I'm goingto lift this eyebrow and we're
going to create the illusion.
And that was the whole point ofit is like the illusion.
Yeah, you know, it's notbecause the shadow of how it hit
her face was already making theillusion that she had a deeper
(13:23):
set eye than the other.
Right, so it started as anillusion, right, you know, it is
light and shadow, it ischanging that and she looked,
she was like, oh my God, she waslike I, that's me, yeah, I look
(13:45):
like, I, look like me, I looklike me.
And just her confidence justthe way you literally see
someone perk up and sit uptaller is amazing.
Gosh, I have so many.
I'm trying to think of a few,but it's very nice to just give
that to somebody.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
And have that gift of confidence again, I think
that's huge.
And I think one of your giftstoo because I've had a lot of
makeup artists over the years isthe fact that you're kind of a
mentor, you kind of teach as you, you have a conversation, and
unless it's five in the morning,which we've done- a couple of
times and we have coffee andthat's about it.
But you do, you have aconversation, you kind of get to
(14:17):
know the person and you alsokind of teach Now that woman can
walk away with a tool in hertool belt.
That's like all right, I can dothis at home.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Yes, timeless.
That is something that's verycool too is when I do someone's
makeup and it's not a lesson Ijust do their makeup Right, and
maybe they go home now they seewhat I saw.
Yes, and it can be simple,right?
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Let's talk about that because you know people
watching.
I mean I have drawers of makeup, although here I really pared
down and I only I'm reallytrying to be very intentional
about what I'm using and how I'musing it and you've taught me a
little bit of that.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
That know you have to be.
You don't need a ton ofproducts.
But let's walk through a feweasy steps that somebody
listening today can say okay,I'm going to do this, I'm going
to go to Target or I'm going togo to Sephora.
I'm going to go somewhere.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Yeah, you can, whether it's drugstore or it's
high end, it's more at yourtaste or your budget.
It's high end, right, it's moreat your taste or your budget,
and I think a big one is theeyes.
Okay, a lot of of my matureskin clients are terrified of,
like, what I'm going to do withthe eyes.
Are you going to put powderunder my eyes?
Are you going to make me creepyand crinkly?
(15:33):
Chalky looking Are you going toput black here?
Are you going to you know?
And it's like, and it's allhorrifying, we're all going.
Oh yeah, we hear you.
I'd say always avoid powder.
You almost never need powderunless you have very oily skin.
Now there's some people whojust have skin that eats makeup
and it doesn't matter what youdo and they look just great.
I'm one of the people that youput the wrong product on my skin
(15:56):
.
You could count my pores.
I look oily, so it depends onyour skin chemistry.
but taking concealer and Ialways see people doing
concealer the wrong way- andthey'll take it and they'll put
it right under their eye, righton the purple spot, right, cause
that's what you want to cover.
Right?
No, what you want to do isnever put makeup here.
I would put it right here, inthe darkest corner of your eye.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Okay, darkest corner of your eye.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Bring it down into your nose.
What that's going to do isflatten this whole plane and
make this plane look flat.
Gets rid of the ring.
It gets rid of the darknesshere.
The bags, the bags.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Oh wow.
And you can take the concealerhere.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
And pop it here and clean this up, almost go.
You had a straight line.
Everything you want to do iskeep at these angles.
It'll lift the face, lift itthe jawline, the cheekbone, the
eye.
It'll all coordinate the same,like 45 degree angle wow and you
keep the light here and keepthe light here and blend that
all and what you do is you don'tknow when it ever has, unless
(16:58):
you have darkness which you canstill bring the concealer to,
but you have less happening inthe middle.
I mean there's just less productthere.
Less product to crease, lessproduct to it keeps it smooth.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Yeah, good point, and leave it wet.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Unless it's a super oily concealer.
Keep it wet.
Interesting, I would never usepowder and you're going to kind
of glow.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Which is very in supposedly Glowy dewy skin.
Glowy dewy skin, yeah.
So for those that aren'twatching, that might be just
listening.
So you're kind of taking itright at the tear duct,
basically.
Yes, exactly and over out tothe outer edge.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Exactly Okay.
Yeah, because the purple that'sdark here in the eye is really
what's making us look tired.
There's not so much the undereye as much as it is the inside.
You want to brighten that area.
Yeah, interesting, just openyour face make you look a little
bit lighter.
Yeah, I would say keeping yournow I'm careful when I say this
(17:52):
but keeping your brows not dark,but maybe a little colored.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Yes, you have to.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
Even if you have microbladed brows and they're
still kind of going gray orgreen Right, just popping a
little bit of an ashy brown withyour blonde, like for you, or
maybe like a honey or a chestnutbrown if you have dark hair and
putting blush, a little bit ofblush A little bit of blush.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
How do you do the blush?
I mean, do you really smile andthen put it in your little
apples of your cheeks?
I wouldn't do that.
My mom told me that.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
I would actually keep it high on the cheekbone.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Yeah, everything.
That way, I would keepeverything high on the cheekbone
.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Yeah, that would be helpful Because with this you
putting product here is going tomake you look is going to make
this look droopy, right?
So if you keep the product here, it's going to make you look
carved.
Yeah, yeah, I honestly somepeople this might sound crazy.
Take a shimmery pretty pinklipstick or lip gloss.
Pop it on your cheek.
Okay, a little hack right there,it'll be so glowy and dewy and
(18:46):
just give you that kind ofyouthful blushed.
You know you look at youngpeople.
They have, like rosy cheeks,bushy eyebrows.
You know what?
I mean so it's a really quickway to just kind of bring a
useful.
Those are great tips, yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Easy peasy and out the door and you feel good, you
feel confident.
You know it's funny, I don'tknow what it was.
Several months ago I was in NewYork and I had to be, and my
makeup artist there actually wassick and ended up in the
hospital, and called me and saidAmy, I can't do it.
You know I don't.
I'm like, oh no, this isterrible and I was panicking.
I gotta be honest, I waspanicking.
(19:23):
I was with a friend and we wentto CVS.
It's like eight o'clock atnight and I'm on at five.
You know I'm in the city atfive and my girlfriend and I are
.
We actually did a funny videoabout I walked into CVS because
I didn't really bring makeupwith me, because I knew I was
having someone do it and I'mlike, oh my God, Like there's 16
different shades of foundation.
(19:46):
Yes, so give us a quick tip onlike if you walk in, whether
it's high end, whatever cosmeticor whatever, or you go to
Target or CVS, and you'restanding there and you're
looking at L'Oreal and thinkingokay, what matches.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Yeah, Color matching.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
I would say always avoid oranges.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
I think a lot of people there's few people who
are more bronze, or maybe youhave a self-tanner that that
might suit you.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Right.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
But I think people tend to be a little bit more of
like porcelain pink.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
Yeah, lighter than you normally would think.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Sandy beige kind of color.
That's more me, and then a lotof makeup companies go orange.
I don't know if it's a, if it'scheaper for the product
manufacturer.
I don't know but I know thatit's there's.
That's very prevalent and youcan always match the inside of
your wrist.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
I was just going to ask where do we match inside of
our wrists, ladies?
Speaker 2 (20:37):
all right, okay, that's good to know you need
like a blush or a lip color yeahor maybe a really pretty pink
eyeshadow.
You can take your finger andsqueeze it and then that pink is
going to be the undertones thatyou want to use really.
So, like you know, for me, youcan see, I'm kind of like a.
I'm like kind of red and purple.
I am super and you are like,that's why.
(20:59):
But look at all the pinks andthe corals and all the colors
that you wear and you like.
That is crazy and I'm moremauve, right?
Yeah, so I can get away withthose darker colors.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
I never knew that.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
That's amazing, Everybody's like whoa, that's a
mic drop.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
So we're going to talk real quickly because we got
to wind it.
I want to have you back.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
And actually.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
I want to do something where you're actually
making a couple of women over.
Yeah, so we're going to do that.
So stay tuned for all of that,because Joshua is just such a
talent in so many ways.
So let's talk about compliments, because I brought this and for
those of you that are listening, you can't see it, but you've
heard me talk about it becausethis tell me something good jar.
I have an artist out of NewYork that designs these little
jars for me, and I talk aboutthe fact that so many women
(21:42):
deflect compliments.
You know you're standing inline at a restroom or something.
Because I talk to everybody.
I'll be like, oh, that colorlooks great on you, you look so
fabulous.
And first of all, she'll belike who is that crazy lady?
And then she'll be like, oh,really, because I'm 10 pounds
heavier because, of COVID or I'm, oh really, Because I got a TJ
Maxx for $9.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
I mean how many of us ?
Speaker 1 (22:05):
When women, when you give them compliments, did they
simply say thank you or do theydeflect too?
Speaker 2 (22:10):
I notice the deflection very often and I'm a
little.
I'm very confident and sassy,maybe.
So, you know, I remember therewas this one woman in the salon
and she was just sitting gettingher color done and I looked at
her and she looked at me and Iwas.
I don't know why she waslooking at me, but I know I was
(22:32):
looking at her because her facewas just so pretty.
You know, she just had reallyjust just a very pretty woman
and an older woman and olderthan me.
And so I walked by and wecatted each other's face one
more time and I just turned toher and said you have such a
pretty face.
And she me and I was like yes,you have such a pretty face, you
(22:53):
.
And she was just like oh, and Ijust put my hand on her
shoulder and said you're welcome, and she was like yes, thank
you.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
But she wasn't going to accept that.
Do you know what I mean?
And I have people who do thatall the time.
They're like, oh, no, no, andit's like no, it's like, just
take in that, I take it in.
Someone else thinks that you'rebeautiful, oh you know you have
to at some point you have tostop fighting yourself and stop
fighting aging, and stopfighting what it means and
(23:22):
embrace what it is you know.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Say that again.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Stop fighting so much what you think it is what it's
going to be and embracing whatit is what you have, you know
and not fighting.
What?
The idea of oh my gosh, I'm 50.
I should be doing this, Ishould have this accomplished,
or I should have done this.
I should have done this better,I should have been a better mom
.
Whatever, have thisaccomplished or I should have
done this.
I should have done this better.
I should have been a better mom.
Whatever it is it's like.
No, you are where you are forexactly the reasons you're
supposed to be, and embrace andaccept that.
(23:49):
This is the version of you, whoit is, because, unfortunately,
you see it back in the mirror.
There's going to be one personstaring back Exactly.
You have to love that person oraccept misery, I guess.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Exactly, exactly.
That whole compliment sayingthat's why this tell me
something good jar.
You write down the complimentAt the end of the day.
If somebody complimented, youwrite it down, put it in the jar
and then, when you're feelingreally blue one day, you pull it
out and you go wow, this islike the value that I'm giving
to other people are recognizingthis about me.
I'm pretty damn good.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
I agree, and you know I think a lot of people do the
opposite.
Yeah, you know, I know, for me,I struggled a lot with like my
weight and like food and otherthings growing up that I
remember someone you know,someone gave, said something
terrible about me.
I'd hold onto it and it wouldmotivate me.
Yeah, okay, I'm I'm, you know,I'm going to eat less.
I'm going to wear those boots.
(24:46):
Now I'm going to wear thoseboots every day.
It's like, you know, own it andbe who you want to be.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Powerful, powerful, love it.
All.
Right, tell us where.
Of course, joshua's in Sarasota, but you can be everywhere,
because the world of virtual isout there.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
So people listening watching today that are like wow
, because there's so much moreto dig into and you have so many
more tips and tricks that wewill share Absolutely it's
endless and to cater to theperson.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
And cater to the person.
How can they get ahold of you,how do they reach you and what
do you offer?
Speaker 2 (25:25):
So I do makeup application for every day, for
luncheons, galas, you name it,special events, weddings I do
makeup lessons.
Um, I am currently at annamolinari salon, spawned boutique
downtown sarasota.
Uh, I also can take care of youprivately, virtually.
Uh, you can reach me by phonenumber or email.
I'll put that all in the shownotes perfect I have instagram.
Yeah, beauty by hh design,joshua hardinger art.
Yeah, I, I do it all.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
So you've got a lot going.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
I have Instagram Beauty by HH Design Joshua.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Hardinger Arts.
I do it all and you've got alot going on in the art world
here too.
Yes, yeah, so just briefly inour last minute here, tell me
about that.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
Well, I work with one of my great friends, stephanie,
with Bray Productions.
She does Art Lab and there'sgoing to be actually a featured
Art Lab this weekend, so we'reall very excited for that.
This Saturday at Living Vogue,we are going to have all these
featured artists, local artists.
(26:10):
It's like a gallery peoplebreathing and dancing fire.
You know we've had livemermaids swimming in the pool
before.
So it's a different themechampagne at the door, so fun.
Yeah, I work with a lot ofartists and have my art featured
a few murals downtown and artelsewhere.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
That's amazing.
You got it going on.
You got it going on.
Thank you.
I'm so happy that our pathscrossed.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Me too.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
And I just really admire the work that you do, the
gift that you give to womenthat come in, and it's
incredible.
So please reach out to Joshua.
And then our last question,which I ask everybody, is if you
were sitting on the couch andyou looked over and there you
were, at 30, what advice wouldyou give yourself?
What would you tell youryounger self?
Speaker 2 (26:57):
I'd say let go of the little stuff and just keep
killing it.
Just keep moving forward.
Don't overthink the littlestuff and just keep killing it.
Just keep moving forward.
Don't overthink the littlestuff or care about what anybody
thinks, because it's your mind,it's your matrix.
Let it unfold and manifestexactly how you want it to be.
(27:20):
You get what you focus on, andfocus on what you want, what you
need.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Love it.
That's awesome.
No one's ever said that beforein all of the episodes.
There's always some overlap.
I love that.
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
I love everything you do, Amy.
I love the confidence andsupport you give to women.
It's so important.
I appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
Well, we'll see you soon.
You'll be back on.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Thanks so much for listening today.
We know how valuable your timeis and that's why we keep it
short and sweet.
Don't forget to follow us onall the socials, and you can
check out all the links andresources in the show notes.
Until next time, go forth andbe awesome.
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