May 13, 2025 • 27 mins
Fearlessly Facing......starting something new and outside of your comfort zone.
My guest today is Lisa Loyet-Schmitz. Lisa shares her journey of contributing to the anthology "Living Well with Grit," discovering that every woman's story is special precisely because it is uniquely hers. Through vulnerability and authenticity, Lisa found writing about her life experiences to be surprisingly therapeutic, helping her recognize patterns and growth that shaped her present self.
• Overcoming the belief that her story wasn't "special enough" to share
• Finding the courage to write authentically about personal experiences
• The concept of being "Too Young to Be Beige" – losing yourself trying to please everyone
• Learning to set boundaries and say "no" to maintain balance
• The importance of mentors and expressing gratitude to those who've helped us
• Building community through shared vulnerability and storytelling
• Embracing life's curveballs with resilience
• Finding strength through allowing others to help during difficult times
Find "Living Well with Grit" on Amazon. The book features chapters from 37 women sharing their unique stories of growth, resilience, intention, and tenacity.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Hey, fearless friends .
Well, it is Amy, and I am superexcited to you know, I say that
every time, super excited, butit is true I am super excited to
one be back with the show, butalso just to be bringing you
some really interesting storiesof incredible people that, you
know, kind of go outside theircomfort zone.
(00:27):
Maybe they do something thatthey never thought they'd do and
they create these cannonballmoments.
You know, they make this splashin different aspects of their
life, no matter where they arein their journey.
You know, and we fearlesslyface so many things, and one of
the things I talk about a lot onthe show is the fact that we
fearlessly face a lot of theseF-words, whether it's our faith,
(00:48):
our future, our fitness, ourfamilies, our friendship.
You know, whatever it is,there's a lot of F-words that we
need to kind of just keep goingthrough as we age.
Today's guest I'm really excitedabout because Lisa
Loyett-Schmitz is a friend, notonly on the business side but
also I really consider Lisa afriend personally.
(01:09):
She's kind of gotten to know me, peeled back the layers a
little bit, seen some of thefacets of my journey and has
always been an encourager, and Iappreciate that.
So, Lisa, I don't know how longhas it been, it's been several
years, right.
Mm.
Hmm, Definitely.
I mean I don't know how longhas it been, it's been several
years, right?
Several, definitely, I mean Idon't think we've aged a bit.
What do you think?
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Not at all.
Maybe we're getting younger,not older, right I?
Speaker 1 (01:32):
think we're like that Benjamin button right that ages
backwards and I have to saywe're here in this beautiful
studio in Sarasota Lisa's in StLouis, at a Balmy.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
She in St Louis at a Balmy.
She said five degrees rightRight around there.
I'm inside, so I'm just lookingat it out the window and
thinking I want to stay inside,it's all good, it's all good.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
And we started recording and I got to be
completely transparent on thisstuff because, if you know me,
I'm very authentic about things.
I have a kid who's studyingabroad and my phone who only the
phone was on silent, but ifthere's an emergency that comes
up, it can break through, andthat ringtone came up and I said
I had to cut.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
So, lisa, thanks for being patient here and and
restarting with me today as amother, I exactly would have
done the same thing I get it.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Yeah, you got to do it.
It's one of those things Ialways pick up the phone, so
let's talk a little bit.
Lisa, you have a really diversebackground and a really cool
journey and most recently, lisahas put together a book.
She's a story from anorganization, I guess, that we
call GRIT, which I love becauseI think GRIT is such a powerful
(02:40):
word.
But let's talk about thislatest adventure for you, and
that is really putting pen topaper or fingers to the keyboard
and writing a book.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Yeah, yeah.
So this is a new experience forme, for sure, and it did come
about through a work connectionwith shoes, and that's how you
and I actually met was throughmy job with shoes.
But I always find that that'sjust always the door opener in
many cases, and you find out somuch about people through those
(03:15):
experiences.
If you're looking, you know youhave to be open to it, and what
I found out when I wasintroduced to Jennifer Bardot,
who is the person who iscompiling the books and the one
that I'm in the most recent one,that just with grit, which is
growth, resilience, intentionand tenacity Wow, four big words
(03:57):
, yes, and it really caught on.
And so, once she got done withher acronym, she still had women
that she found had stories totell, and I think we oftentimes
find that we gain our strengthwith talking to other women,
listening to other women,pulling upon their experiences
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and realizing.
What I found when I wasapproached to write this chapter
was that I didn't think I hadanything special to talk about.
You know, I've had experiencethat other people have had.
What was special about minethat I realized didn't need to
be special?
Maybe just somebody realizingthat more than one person goes
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through things in their ownmanner, and it's how we deal
with them, and so what made mystory special is that it's mine
and that if anybody gains onething out of what I've shared,
then it made it worth it, but itwas also a very big personal
growth experience for me?
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Yeah, because we have to be lifetime learners, we
have to continue to engage inlearning something new, and as
someone who is kind of a creatorand has written a book, I know
how hard it is, because whetherit's a chapter, it's a novel,
it's a thousand pages or twopages, it's still it's.
It's not an easy thing to doand you have to commit to doing
it Right.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Well, and you know what's funny is I copyright all
the time.
You know, I write product copy,I write dynamic copy, I write
blogs, I write posts, but it'sall on a professional level.
And when I sat down to to kindof expose myself, like you know
where, how far did I want topeel off those layers and I
(05:37):
found that, you know, it wasactually very therapeutic to
take some of the things thathave helped you grow to where
you are today and identify withthem and acknowledge them.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Yeah, and I think you don't always want to talk about
.
I think that's true.
And there is a talking aboutacknowledging something.
You know, just before Lisa'sinterview today and I had on a,
an Olympic athlete, and we weretalking about kind of, you know,
being the it person I mean,when you're the best, like, what
is that like?
And she admitted the fact that,you know, so often we don't
(06:11):
savor our experiences, our story, we kind of just move to the
next thing and it's like, oh, noone's really going to think
that's that great, like I'mgoing to move on to the next
thing, the next thing, the nextthing, and that's what we tend
to do and and you said that too,you know, did I really, did I
have anything that was reallyinteresting, worth sharing?
And that's what I think foranybody listening or viewing
(06:32):
today, they need to realize thattheir story is so exceptional
True, you know and we soundervalue that or overlook it.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Yeah, yeah, oftentimes we do overlook it
because we're so busy doing ourday-to-day life.
Yeah, you know, we need toreflect on things that we've
done in the past to getourselves to where we are.
That includes theaccomplishments, the failures
and how we got there.
And then also, one of thethings that I'm trying to be
very mindful about is offeringup gratitude to people who have
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helped me along the way, whoprobably didn't even know they
were helping me.
And I think that's importanttoo, to not only be a mentor for
people who are, you know, 10,15, 20 years, you know are
juniors, or even a year or two,but to also look back on those
people that were our mentors andthank them, because I
personally feel that in today'sage of post COVID and I hate
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talking about that way, but itis reality A lot of our younger
generation they don't have thatphysical opportunity to have
mentors.
So we have to go out there andprovide that for them, because
so many of us are the mentorsthat this generation needs.
That we had and we kind of tookfor granted I know I did like,
because they were there in mydaily life every day for me to
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physically look up to and askquestions and let them lead by
example.
And it's a little harder forthe younger generation now
because you know remote learning, remote working, high working.
So we have to find other waysto help them because they also
they want that.
And so to do that, I thinkfirst starts with acknowledging
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those who helped you along theway and taking it one step
further.
If you have the opportunity toreach out and thank them, it's
really kind of mind blowing, andI do cover that a little bit in
my chapter with how Iexperienced that myself with an
early mentor.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Yeah, and mentorship is something that I do think is
undervalued.
It really is.
And your mentors?
You know it's interesting.
I have some mentors in my life.
They don't even know they aremy mentors, right, and I
remember saying that to mydaughter once and she's like
what do you mean, mom?
And I'm like, no, for real,like I have mentors that I look
to and they don't know who AmySchmidt is.
(08:49):
They have no idea.
So that's a very powerful thingthat you mentioned about the
power of mentors and that heartof gratitude which is so often
we don't take the time or makethe time to do that.
People that have reallyinspired us or encouraged us,
and letting them know howgrateful we are, that's huge.
When you started writing thischapter, when they came to you
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and said, okay, lisa, you're asuper cool human, you've got a
great story.
Take me back to that moment.
What was it like when youstarted it to kind of put it
together, carve it out?
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Well, it all came after a event that I was at
representing the shoes and I waslistening to one of the
speakers, and usually when I wasat these events so for all of
2024, we sponsored the monthlycoffee.
So I was there and I would talkabout shoes.
You know, you know how thatgoes.
I just like that's what I'mused to doing.
(09:44):
Yeah, like that's what I'm usedto doing, yeah, and, but I would
.
I would be, I would take partin the talks that were taking
place each month and the womenthat were offering them.
And one of the women said well,why don't you tell your story?
You seem like you have had alot of interesting challenges,
or you know obstacles and youknow you should talk about it.
(10:07):
And I'm like, oh, you know, no,I don't, I don't want to do
that, you know.
I'm just, I'm, I'm quietlygrateful, right.
And she's like why, what?
What's your fear?
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Oh, I like this woman .
Speaker 2 (10:19):
I had to acknowledge my fear, and my fear was that
things in my personal life thatI overcame, I felt like if I
identified with them in writing,what would my children think?
You know, I did go through adivorce and it wasn't a messy
divorce, but it was a divorce.
So there was obviously a reasonthat a marriage broke up and
(10:39):
there's still two very beautiful, wonderful children who came
from this marriage and I wantedto protect them from thinking,
oh gosh, our mom might feel thisway or that way about our dad.
Or, you know, I didn't want to.
You know, bash my ex-husband.
I didn't want to.
You know divorce drama storyand she gave me some really
great insights.
She said you know you don'tneed to do that, she said, but
(11:02):
your children are adults andthey see you and their father
for exactly who they are.
So maybe they'll respect youfor acknowledging the things
that maybe they already noticeabout their dad that maybe just
lead you to not compatible to bemarried Not that you're talking
poorly of him and I was like,hmm.
So then another woman, anothertime asked me something and I
(11:26):
found myself and this was aprofessional question, I found
myself almost apologizing forbeing a woman, for being a woman
in the workplace, for feelinglike I had to stand up for
myself, but yet kind of shyingaway.
And so when I was approachedabout writing the chapter and I
said I don't know if I haveanything special to say, I
thought about it.
I thought about it for weeksafter.
(11:46):
I said, yes, I'm like, oh myGod, what did I get myself into
Right?
And then one night I literallywas lying in bed.
It was about 1030 and it justlike hit me.
I talked to the writing coachand she kind of gave me some
prompts and she's like you know,we want about 2000 words and I
know that can be, you know, kindof a little daunting.
(12:08):
So I went in and I just startedwriting and it just like flowed
out, and it flowed out and itflowed out.
And the next day I sentsomething to her and I said,
okay, this is just raw, I mean,it's not checked, it's nothing,
it's it's just my thoughts,which is what she asked for.
And I said, and you're rightabout the 2000 words, it's
(12:33):
daunting because there's about3000 here.
So where do we cut?
But that's where we get tostart.
And I realized through thatthat all these different things
that I that thought were verydisjointed, they all wove
together in the end.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
They did.
Yeah, that's powerful.
They all play together.
They all play together and itall makes part of a story.
Yeah, it makes part of a story.
And so how many women areinvolved in this particular, her
sixth book that Jennifer's putout?
Speaker 2 (13:00):
I think there's 37 authors in this one.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
That's amazing.
That's 37 women that have it'sall women, correct that have
come together and, you know,shared their authentic voice,
their story, uniquely them, andthen, like you said, you weave
together this, you read it andthen you say, wow, like she's
done that, that's amazing, thatresonates with me.
Or wow, I had that sameexperience.
(13:23):
I didn't know anybody else didRight.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
That ability to peel back those layers of
authenticity are huge.
Yes, yeah, yeah, and everyonehas their unique story and
there's there's commonality inmany of them.
Yeah, and that's where I thinkI overcame the concern that my
story wasn't special enough,because every, every story is
(13:47):
always special enough becauseit's yours.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Yep, Yep.
You know we go through lifewith blind spots, whether it's
around asking for help or otherthings, but what is something
you uncovered about yourselfthat you didn't realize?
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Well, I think what I've realized that now is that
and it, it it to summarize it isis like life's always going to
throw you curveballs and you'regoing to dodge some of them,
you're going to get hit upsidethe head by some of them, but
then you're going to, they'regoing to just connect with one,
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you're going to hit it out ofthe park, and it's those moments
that you can say bring it,bring it on.
Bring it on because I might notalways, it might not always
work for me, but I'm not goingto just go sit on the bench
because I might get hit upsidethe head or I might miss it,
because when I do connect withit, it's going to be big and
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it's going to be worth it.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
And it's going to be worth it.
Yeah, oh, I love that.
I love that.
What was the biggest challengeas far as well?
I mean, you know, for writingtoo, and you have a writing
coach, which is great, and Ithink a lot of people listening
need to realize that there's alot of support out there.
If there's somebody thinkingabout writing a book or thinking
about launching a business orthinking about going back to
(15:02):
school, it is using your mentors, like we talked about before,
but there are resourcesavailable right To help you.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Right.
Well, and I think that thistype of way of becoming an
author, by being part of ananthology, you're working with a
team of people who do this on aregular basis, so they take out
a lot of the fear.
By having a writing coach, byhaving a publisher, one of the
biggest fears about writing abook is who's going to publish
it.
And when you have that personand you're working together as a
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team, then when it comes timefor book launch, they're telling
you what to expect, they'rehyping it up, they're
introducing everybody, they'retelling us they're getting
excited and it made it a truelife-changing event the day of
the launch, because I willhonestly say that I had no idea
what was going to happen the dayof the launch.
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Going into it, I've got allthese things planned for my work
day and I'm like, okay, well,we're supposed to keep an eye on
things.
And then all of a sudden, thatjust kind of took over the day
in the most powerful way and itjust the emotions all day were
just like.
I had no idea.
And when I was reading aboutthese women saying this before,
I'm like, oh, like they're wayinto this.
(16:13):
But you know, I'm just I'vejust got this little chapter,
that blah, blah, blah, and Ifound out that I was wrong about
that and I but I'm glad Iallowed myself to put the brakes
on that day and say you knowwhat?
I'm going to allow myself toappreciate this, I'm going to
allow myself to immerse myselfin this and be part of it,
because I think oftentimes we domiss out on things in life
(16:34):
because we think we're too busyor we think we've got too many
other things going on and toexperience something new and
quite powerfully life-changing,like that was yeah, and it is
life-changing.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
And I mean, you've done it yourself.
You know how it feels.
Right, it's life-changing, yeah, it's life-changing and and I
do think I've learned throughwhat I've created with my brand
and my businesses you do have tosit back and savor it and and
really say, wow, I did that,like that's pretty cool, like
that's an accomplishment I did.
And now how can I help somebodyelse do that same thing?
and you know, take them along,kind of, and and, like I always
(17:09):
say, kick the door open and holdit open with your heel for the
next woman to come in Cause Ithink that's so important.
Um, you know, as you were, Ilook at you as I mean you're,
you're in a, you're a businessexecutive too, you know, I mean
that that is a big part of you.
You've, you've, you've managedand run and created and done all
of those things.
If there's people listeningbecause a lot of women are not
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that, they're not businessexecutives.
They've stepped away from youknow, maybe to raise their kids,
or they've never taken on thatbusiness journey.
Is this possible for them too?
Speaker 2 (17:41):
it is, and it's all about balance and balance.
Achieving balance art, and Ican tell you I I struggle with
it all the time.
Yeah, and it has it's.
You have to mindfully try tobalance your life and you, you
have to say no to things.
At times you have to say no toeither a work thing, you have to
say no to a personal thing, youhave to say no to a volunteer
thing.
Sometimes, just say no to yourkids or your husband or your
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coworkers.
And you know, that's one of thethings that prompted my chapter
was in my thirties.
I didn't say no, I felt like Ihad to say yes to everything.
I wanted to be that woman thatcould juggle it all.
And you know, and I wasblissfully going down you know
life's path, thinking I was onlyto one day just be struck right
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upside the head that I wasn'tRight and I had to ask myself
what's going wrong here.
And my chapter, which is titledToo Young to Be Beige, is
because I took a look at apicture of myself and I thought
I look so beige.
But I felt beige.
It wasn't like a prettymonochromatic, lovely off white
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beige, it was like blah beigefrom head to toe, yeah, yeah,
and I just thought I'm tryingtoo hard to be everything for
everybody and it's just notpossible.
And so I feel fortunate thatthat hit me upside the head at
age 30.
And it took a while.
It wasn't like I just woke upthe next day and did something
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about it, but once I did, and Istarted realizing that, once I
gained control of myself andfound some balance and really
focused on the things that meantthe most, that my life just
seemed to improve.
And sometimes that means losingthings that you thought you had
to have in your life, that youreally don't.
(19:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Wow, that is huge.
That is huge.
And trying new things Yep,Absolutely A hundred percent.
You were just part of a bigaward ceremony.
I followed you on and I thoughtthat was really cool to to see
a group of all of the women thatwere part of writing this
together.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Was that the first time?
Speaker 1 (19:48):
you'd all been together, all of you, or are you
at other chances to do that?
Speaker 2 (19:52):
No Zoom meetings prior to the book launch.
Now some of these women who'vebeen part of GRIT um have been
to other things together, so youknow the previous there were
women from all the books.
So, like you know, each bookassume has 20 to 30 some authors
, so not all of them were there,but many of them were and many
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of them from the other booksspoke.
So we heard all these veryinspirational stories and there
were some awards given.
But I think the thing that wasthe coolest was actually getting
to physically meet these womenthat we had shared so much
emotion together over the pastfew months.
And you know, you just kind ofsee each other and you just want
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to embrace each other and saygood job, and your story meant
so much to me and let's get ourpicture together.
And you know, it just createsthis community of love and
support and encouragement and Ithink that's so needed right now
.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Mm.
Hmm, I think it's so important.
We navigate so often in theselittle circles and we don't open
it up to a horseshoe, like Isay often, and we don't let
others in.
And we need to because it's soand community is key for
anything.
I think that's probably howyou've always navigated your
business too.
I mean, you have a greatbusiness partner there that
designs these fabulous shoes.
You know, and I know thataspect of you too.
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So you work together and that'sso important and we need to
lift each other up and, you know, encourage each other and and
also call each other out oncertain occasions if you need to
, and but it's important tobuild that community so
important.
I'm so glad you got to be apart of it and I hope that
you'll go.
You know, continue to write andcreate from that aspect, which
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I think is so interesting.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Yeah, I actually have been asked to be part of
another group of an anthologybook, which I'm not sure it's a
different type of focus.
But through this, another womanhas reached out to me and said
you know, you just seem like atotal badass and I really want
you to shout out to other womenthat you know there are things
that can be done, and it isn'talways pretty and it isn't
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always easy, but there's peoplealong the way that'll help you.
And you know that was one ofthe things I put in my book too,
about, you know, just allowingyourself to be vulnerable,
because you'll figure out alongthe way who the people are that
are there for you and that arenot.
And you can.
You can make those choices ofwho you want to keep in your
life and and who you don't.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
Yeah, it's, that's well said.
You do, you can make thosechoices, absolutely, you have
permission to make those choices.
You can make those choices,absolutely, you have permission
to make those choices.
So, as we close today, wherecan people find?
I'll link it in the episodenotes, but where can people
order?
Is it right on Amazon?
It is on Amazon, okay, great,and there's a link there.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Yeah, if you just look at Living Well with Grit
and possibly even if you justtype in Grit.
But I think if you do LivingWell with Grit by Jennifer
Bardot, all the books will popup because they're all available
on there, and now the LivingWell with Grit is also available
, that's fabulous.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Do you have a copy there for the people not that
are listening but are viewing?
Do you have a copy of it?
I'll put one in the notes aswell.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
I did print this off this morning.
Look at that.
I mean that's pretty cool.
I want to point out somethingreally cool that just came about
.
This is just one of thoselittle life blessings.
These shoes are Rose Homersonshoes, are they?
And Jennifer Bardot came oneday and said I have a big
surprise for you.
She's like look at the cover ofmy book.
I am putting your shoes on thecover of my book.
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And that was just like a wowmoment, like thank you.
I didn't ask for it, we didn'tsponsor it and it just it means
the world to me, because thoseare sometimes the ways that we
just find that what we're doingis working Is working.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
I love it.
So, before we close, I want toask you the question I ask
everyone, and I know I thinkI've asked you this before
actually, but Lisa, if you weresitting on the couch and you
look over and there you are, at30, what advice would you give
Lisa at 30?
Speaker 2 (23:51):
So can I give two answers One professionally, one
personally?
Yes, so, because theprofessional one is in my
chapter, and so number one beingan entrepreneur does not mean
you don't have a real job Ifyou're an entrepreneur, if
you're self-employed, you areprofessional, you are real and
you are oftentimes workingharder than people who go to an
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office.
So don't ever discount yourselfas not being professional just
because you're an entrepreneur.
Oftentimes we're told that Iwas, and it was a blemish for me
.
For a while I felt embarrassedby it.
I would say oh, I'm just afreelance art director.
I wasn't.
What I needed to be saying wasI own my own freelance art
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direction company and I'm reallygood at it.
And if you know anybody thatneeds something, let me know.
So that's one.
And then the world is full.
The corporate world is full ofegotistical people that will try
to bring you down, but it isalso full of people who want to
build you up and support you.
They're out there, you'll findthem.
You let yourself be open tothose and let the others go.
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Now on a personal level.
I already mentioned this oneabout the curveballs.
But just be prepared.
Just be prepared, and whenyou're not prepared, get
yourself back up and dustyourself off and just keep going
and find those people who arethere to help you, because
there's so many that are, and Iwas struck.
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I just want to close with oneof the quick things that you put
on your questions I should beprepared for is people that
inspire me.
Yes, I was struck this year bytwo well, by three women, and
I'm going to make it fastbecause I know we need to sum it
up here.
So my niece had a five-year-oldson, was diagnosed with acute
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liver cancer, kind of had astomach ache and the next thing,
they know, boom, they are infull-blown chemo.
And you know most people don'texpect this.
She didn't expect it and Iwatched her as she went through
all these chemo treatments andyou know his surgery and he rang
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the bell on New Year's Eve andnow they're, you know, getting
more chemo and then scans.
And you know she just kepttalking about how you know I've
been puked on, peed on, cried on, screamed at, and she just kept
moving forward on, screamed atand she just kept moving forward
(26:30):
.
And then my cousin, who is alsoabout the same age and has two
little girls, she herself camedown or was diagnosed with
leukemia and went through a yearof experiencing this from her
own level while trying tomaintain a family.
Her sister was a perfect matchfor a bone marrow transplant and
she is also now in remission.
But the one thing that I justkept feeling when I would read
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both of these women's posts ortalk to them or get texts from
them, is that they just neverquit encouraging themselves and
allowing help, allowing peopleto help them, and that's what I
think, as women, we oftentimesdon't do.
We think we've got it.
We want to be strong and wemight be fighting a big battle,
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we might be fighting an internalbattle, but we just have to let
ourselves be encouraged and letpeople help us, because we do
want to help.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
That's powerful.
That's a great way to end this.
Thanks, lisa.
I love that.
I love that and I hope they'redoing well, thinking about you,
sending love to you over in StLouis.
Thanks for writing this.
I think it's amazing.
Thank you, look forward tosharing it with everyone.
We'll have the link on thereand look forward to doing more
together in 2025.
I would love that as well, amy.
Thank you so much.
All right, we'll see ya.
Hey, fearless friends .
Well, it is Amy, and I am superexcited to you know, I say that
every time, super excited, butit is true I am super excited to
one be back with the show, butalso just to be bringing you
some really interesting storiesof incredible people that, you
know, kind of go outside theircomfort zone.
(00:27):
Maybe they do something thatthey never thought they'd do and
they create these cannonballmoments.
You know, they make this splashin different aspects of their
life, no matter where they arein their journey.
You know, and we fearlesslyface so many things, and one of
the things I talk about a lot onthe show is the fact that we
fearlessly face a lot of theseF-words, whether it's our faith,
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our future, our fitness, ourfamilies, our friendship.
You know, whatever it is,there's a lot of F-words that we
need to kind of just keep goingthrough as we age.
Today's guest I'm really excitedabout because Lisa
Loyett-Schmitz is a friend, notonly on the business side but
also I really consider Lisa afriend personally.
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She's kind of gotten to know me, peeled back the layers a
little bit, seen some of thefacets of my journey and has
always been an encourager, and Iappreciate that.
So, Lisa, I don't know how longhas it been, it's been several
years, right.
Mm.
Hmm, Definitely.
I mean I don't know how longhas it been, it's been several
years, right?
Several, definitely, I mean Idon't think we've aged a bit.
What do you think?
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Not at all.
Maybe we're getting younger,not older, right I?
Speaker 1 (01:32):
think we're like that Benjamin button right that ages
backwards and I have to saywe're here in this beautiful
studio in Sarasota Lisa's in StLouis, at a Balmy.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
She in St Louis at a Balmy.
She said five degrees rightRight around there.
I'm inside, so I'm just lookingat it out the window and
thinking I want to stay inside,it's all good, it's all good.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
And we started recording and I got to be
completely transparent on thisstuff because, if you know me,
I'm very authentic about things.
I have a kid who's studyingabroad and my phone who only the
phone was on silent, but ifthere's an emergency that comes
up, it can break through, andthat ringtone came up and I said
I had to cut.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
So, lisa, thanks for being patient here and and
restarting with me today as amother, I exactly would have
done the same thing I get it.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Yeah, you got to do it.
It's one of those things Ialways pick up the phone, so
let's talk a little bit.
Lisa, you have a really diversebackground and a really cool
journey and most recently, lisahas put together a book.
She's a story from anorganization, I guess, that we
call GRIT, which I love becauseI think GRIT is such a powerful
(02:40):
word.
But let's talk about thislatest adventure for you, and
that is really putting pen topaper or fingers to the keyboard
and writing a book.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Yeah, yeah.
So this is a new experience forme, for sure, and it did come
about through a work connectionwith shoes, and that's how you
and I actually met was throughmy job with shoes.
But I always find that that'sjust always the door opener in
many cases, and you find out somuch about people through those
(03:15):
experiences.
If you're looking, you know youhave to be open to it, and what
I found out when I wasintroduced to Jennifer Bardot,
who is the person who iscompiling the books and the one
that I'm in the most recent one,that just with grit, which is
growth, resilience, intentionand tenacity Wow, four big words
(03:57):
, yes, and it really caught on.
And so, once she got done withher acronym, she still had women
that she found had stories totell, and I think we oftentimes
find that we gain our strengthwith talking to other women,
listening to other women,pulling upon their experiences
(04:18):
and realizing.
What I found when I wasapproached to write this chapter
was that I didn't think I hadanything special to talk about.
You know, I've had experiencethat other people have had.
What was special about minethat I realized didn't need to
be special?
Maybe just somebody realizingthat more than one person goes
(04:39):
through things in their ownmanner, and it's how we deal
with them, and so what made mystory special is that it's mine
and that if anybody gains onething out of what I've shared,
then it made it worth it, but itwas also a very big personal
growth experience for me?
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Yeah, because we have to be lifetime learners, we
have to continue to engage inlearning something new, and as
someone who is kind of a creatorand has written a book, I know
how hard it is, because whetherit's a chapter, it's a novel,
it's a thousand pages or twopages, it's still it's.
It's not an easy thing to doand you have to commit to doing
it Right.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Well, and you know what's funny is I copyright all
the time.
You know, I write product copy,I write dynamic copy, I write
blogs, I write posts, but it'sall on a professional level.
And when I sat down to to kindof expose myself, like you know
where, how far did I want topeel off those layers and I
(05:37):
found that, you know, it wasactually very therapeutic to
take some of the things thathave helped you grow to where
you are today and identify withthem and acknowledge them.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Yeah, and I think you don't always want to talk about
.
I think that's true.
And there is a talking aboutacknowledging something.
You know, just before Lisa'sinterview today and I had on a,
an Olympic athlete, and we weretalking about kind of, you know,
being the it person I mean,when you're the best, like, what
is that like?
And she admitted the fact that,you know, so often we don't
(06:11):
savor our experiences, our story, we kind of just move to the
next thing and it's like, oh, noone's really going to think
that's that great, like I'mgoing to move on to the next
thing, the next thing, the nextthing, and that's what we tend
to do and and you said that too,you know, did I really, did I
have anything that was reallyinteresting, worth sharing?
And that's what I think foranybody listening or viewing
(06:32):
today, they need to realize thattheir story is so exceptional
True, you know and we soundervalue that or overlook it.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Yeah, yeah, oftentimes we do overlook it
because we're so busy doing ourday-to-day life.
Yeah, you know, we need toreflect on things that we've
done in the past to getourselves to where we are.
That includes theaccomplishments, the failures
and how we got there.
And then also, one of thethings that I'm trying to be
very mindful about is offeringup gratitude to people who have
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helped me along the way, whoprobably didn't even know they
were helping me.
And I think that's importanttoo, to not only be a mentor for
people who are, you know, 10,15, 20 years, you know are
juniors, or even a year or two,but to also look back on those
people that were our mentors andthank them, because I
personally feel that in today'sage of post COVID and I hate
(07:30):
talking about that way, but itis reality A lot of our younger
generation they don't have thatphysical opportunity to have
mentors.
So we have to go out there andprovide that for them, because
so many of us are the mentorsthat this generation needs.
That we had and we kind of tookfor granted I know I did like,
because they were there in mydaily life every day for me to
(07:52):
physically look up to and askquestions and let them lead by
example.
And it's a little harder forthe younger generation now
because you know remote learning, remote working, high working.
So we have to find other waysto help them because they also
they want that.
And so to do that, I thinkfirst starts with acknowledging
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those who helped you along theway and taking it one step
further.
If you have the opportunity toreach out and thank them, it's
really kind of mind blowing, andI do cover that a little bit in
my chapter with how Iexperienced that myself with an
early mentor.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Yeah, and mentorship is something that I do think is
undervalued.
It really is.
And your mentors?
You know it's interesting.
I have some mentors in my life.
They don't even know they aremy mentors, right, and I
remember saying that to mydaughter once and she's like
what do you mean, mom?
And I'm like, no, for real,like I have mentors that I look
to and they don't know who AmySchmidt is.
(08:49):
They have no idea.
So that's a very powerful thingthat you mentioned about the
power of mentors and that heartof gratitude which is so often
we don't take the time or makethe time to do that.
People that have reallyinspired us or encouraged us,
and letting them know howgrateful we are, that's huge.
When you started writing thischapter, when they came to you
(09:10):
and said, okay, lisa, you're asuper cool human, you've got a
great story.
Take me back to that moment.
What was it like when youstarted it to kind of put it
together, carve it out?
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Well, it all came after a event that I was at
representing the shoes and I waslistening to one of the
speakers, and usually when I wasat these events so for all of
2024, we sponsored the monthlycoffee.
So I was there and I would talkabout shoes.
You know, you know how thatgoes.
I just like that's what I'mused to doing.
(09:44):
Yeah, like that's what I'm usedto doing, yeah, and, but I would
.
I would be, I would take partin the talks that were taking
place each month and the womenthat were offering them.
And one of the women said well,why don't you tell your story?
You seem like you have had alot of interesting challenges,
or you know obstacles and youknow you should talk about it.
(10:07):
And I'm like, oh, you know, no,I don't, I don't want to do
that, you know.
I'm just, I'm, I'm quietlygrateful, right.
And she's like why, what?
What's your fear?
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Oh, I like this woman .
Speaker 2 (10:19):
I had to acknowledge my fear, and my fear was that
things in my personal life thatI overcame, I felt like if I
identified with them in writing,what would my children think?
You know, I did go through adivorce and it wasn't a messy
divorce, but it was a divorce.
So there was obviously a reasonthat a marriage broke up and
(10:39):
there's still two very beautiful, wonderful children who came
from this marriage and I wantedto protect them from thinking,
oh gosh, our mom might feel thisway or that way about our dad.
Or, you know, I didn't want to.
You know, bash my ex-husband.
I didn't want to.
You know divorce drama storyand she gave me some really
great insights.
She said you know you don'tneed to do that, she said, but
(11:02):
your children are adults andthey see you and their father
for exactly who they are.
So maybe they'll respect youfor acknowledging the things
that maybe they already noticeabout their dad that maybe just
lead you to not compatible to bemarried Not that you're talking
poorly of him and I was like,hmm.
So then another woman, anothertime asked me something and I
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found myself and this was aprofessional question, I found
myself almost apologizing forbeing a woman, for being a woman
in the workplace, for feelinglike I had to stand up for
myself, but yet kind of shyingaway.
And so when I was approachedabout writing the chapter and I
said I don't know if I haveanything special to say, I
thought about it.
I thought about it for weeksafter.
(11:46):
I said, yes, I'm like, oh myGod, what did I get myself into
Right?
And then one night I literallywas lying in bed.
It was about 1030 and it justlike hit me.
I talked to the writing coachand she kind of gave me some
prompts and she's like you know,we want about 2000 words and I
know that can be, you know, kindof a little daunting.
(12:08):
So I went in and I just startedwriting and it just like flowed
out, and it flowed out and itflowed out.
And the next day I sentsomething to her and I said,
okay, this is just raw, I mean,it's not checked, it's nothing,
it's it's just my thoughts,which is what she asked for.
And I said, and you're rightabout the 2000 words, it's
(12:33):
daunting because there's about3000 here.
So where do we cut?
But that's where we get tostart.
And I realized through thatthat all these different things
that I that thought were verydisjointed, they all wove
together in the end.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
They did.
Yeah, that's powerful.
They all play together.
They all play together and itall makes part of a story.
Yeah, it makes part of a story.
And so how many women areinvolved in this particular, her
sixth book that Jennifer's putout?
Speaker 2 (13:00):
I think there's 37 authors in this one.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
That's amazing.
That's 37 women that have it'sall women, correct that have
come together and, you know,shared their authentic voice,
their story, uniquely them, andthen, like you said, you weave
together this, you read it andthen you say, wow, like she's
done that, that's amazing, thatresonates with me.
Or wow, I had that sameexperience.
(13:23):
I didn't know anybody else didRight.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
That ability to peel back those layers of
authenticity are huge.
Yes, yeah, yeah, and everyonehas their unique story and
there's there's commonality inmany of them.
Yeah, and that's where I thinkI overcame the concern that my
story wasn't special enough,because every, every story is
(13:47):
always special enough becauseit's yours.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Yep, Yep.
You know we go through lifewith blind spots, whether it's
around asking for help or otherthings, but what is something
you uncovered about yourselfthat you didn't realize?
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Well, I think what I've realized that now is that
and it, it it to summarize it isis like life's always going to
throw you curveballs and you'regoing to dodge some of them,
you're going to get hit upsidethe head by some of them, but
then you're going to, they'regoing to just connect with one,
(14:19):
you're going to hit it out ofthe park, and it's those moments
that you can say bring it,bring it on.
Bring it on because I might notalways, it might not always
work for me, but I'm not goingto just go sit on the bench
because I might get hit upsidethe head or I might miss it,
because when I do connect withit, it's going to be big and
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it's going to be worth it.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
And it's going to be worth it.
Yeah, oh, I love that.
I love that.
What was the biggest challengeas far as well?
I mean, you know, for writingtoo, and you have a writing
coach, which is great, and Ithink a lot of people listening
need to realize that there's alot of support out there.
If there's somebody thinkingabout writing a book or thinking
about launching a business orthinking about going back to
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school, it is using your mentors, like we talked about before,
but there are resourcesavailable right To help you.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Right.
Well, and I think that thistype of way of becoming an
author, by being part of ananthology, you're working with a
team of people who do this on aregular basis, so they take out
a lot of the fear.
By having a writing coach, byhaving a publisher, one of the
biggest fears about writing abook is who's going to publish
it.
And when you have that personand you're working together as a
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team, then when it comes timefor book launch, they're telling
you what to expect, they'rehyping it up, they're
introducing everybody, they'retelling us they're getting
excited and it made it a truelife-changing event the day of
the launch, because I willhonestly say that I had no idea
what was going to happen the dayof the launch.
(15:53):
Going into it, I've got allthese things planned for my work
day and I'm like, okay, well,we're supposed to keep an eye on
things.
And then all of a sudden, thatjust kind of took over the day
in the most powerful way and itjust the emotions all day were
just like.
I had no idea.
And when I was reading aboutthese women saying this before,
I'm like, oh, like they're wayinto this.
(16:13):
But you know, I'm just I'vejust got this little chapter,
that blah, blah, blah, and Ifound out that I was wrong about
that and I but I'm glad Iallowed myself to put the brakes
on that day and say you knowwhat?
I'm going to allow myself toappreciate this, I'm going to
allow myself to immerse myselfin this and be part of it,
because I think oftentimes we domiss out on things in life
(16:34):
because we think we're too busyor we think we've got too many
other things going on and toexperience something new and
quite powerfully life-changing,like that was yeah, and it is
life-changing.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
And I mean, you've done it yourself.
You know how it feels.
Right, it's life-changing, yeah, it's life-changing and and I
do think I've learned throughwhat I've created with my brand
and my businesses you do have tosit back and savor it and and
really say, wow, I did that,like that's pretty cool, like
that's an accomplishment I did.
And now how can I help somebodyelse do that same thing?
and you know, take them along,kind of, and and, like I always
(17:09):
say, kick the door open and holdit open with your heel for the
next woman to come in Cause Ithink that's so important.
Um, you know, as you were, Ilook at you as I mean you're,
you're in a, you're a businessexecutive too, you know, I mean
that that is a big part of you.
You've, you've, you've managedand run and created and done all
of those things.
If there's people listeningbecause a lot of women are not
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that, they're not businessexecutives.
They've stepped away from youknow, maybe to raise their kids,
or they've never taken on thatbusiness journey.
Is this possible for them too?
Speaker 2 (17:41):
it is, and it's all about balance and balance.
Achieving balance art, and Ican tell you I I struggle with
it all the time.
Yeah, and it has it's.
You have to mindfully try tobalance your life and you, you
have to say no to things.
At times you have to say no toeither a work thing, you have to
say no to a personal thing, youhave to say no to a volunteer
thing.
Sometimes, just say no to yourkids or your husband or your
(18:03):
coworkers.
And you know, that's one of thethings that prompted my chapter
was in my thirties.
I didn't say no, I felt like Ihad to say yes to everything.
I wanted to be that woman thatcould juggle it all.
And you know, and I wasblissfully going down you know
life's path, thinking I was onlyto one day just be struck right
(18:26):
upside the head that I wasn'tRight and I had to ask myself
what's going wrong here.
And my chapter, which is titledToo Young to Be Beige, is
because I took a look at apicture of myself and I thought
I look so beige.
But I felt beige.
It wasn't like a prettymonochromatic, lovely off white
(18:46):
beige, it was like blah beigefrom head to toe, yeah, yeah,
and I just thought I'm tryingtoo hard to be everything for
everybody and it's just notpossible.
And so I feel fortunate thatthat hit me upside the head at
age 30.
And it took a while.
It wasn't like I just woke upthe next day and did something
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about it, but once I did, and Istarted realizing that, once I
gained control of myself andfound some balance and really
focused on the things that meantthe most, that my life just
seemed to improve.
And sometimes that means losingthings that you thought you had
to have in your life, that youreally don't.
(19:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Wow, that is huge.
That is huge.
And trying new things Yep,Absolutely A hundred percent.
You were just part of a bigaward ceremony.
I followed you on and I thoughtthat was really cool to to see
a group of all of the women thatwere part of writing this
together.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Was that the first time?
Speaker 1 (19:48):
you'd all been together, all of you, or are you
at other chances to do that?
Speaker 2 (19:52):
No Zoom meetings prior to the book launch.
Now some of these women who'vebeen part of GRIT um have been
to other things together, so youknow the previous there were
women from all the books.
So, like you know, each bookassume has 20 to 30 some authors
, so not all of them were there,but many of them were and many
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of them from the other booksspoke.
So we heard all these veryinspirational stories and there
were some awards given.
But I think the thing that wasthe coolest was actually getting
to physically meet these womenthat we had shared so much
emotion together over the pastfew months.
And you know, you just kind ofsee each other and you just want
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to embrace each other and saygood job, and your story meant
so much to me and let's get ourpicture together.
And you know, it just createsthis community of love and
support and encouragement and Ithink that's so needed right now
.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Mm.
Hmm, I think it's so important.
We navigate so often in theselittle circles and we don't open
it up to a horseshoe, like Isay often, and we don't let
others in.
And we need to because it's soand community is key for
anything.
I think that's probably howyou've always navigated your
business too.
I mean, you have a greatbusiness partner there that
designs these fabulous shoes.
You know, and I know thataspect of you too.
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So you work together and that'sso important and we need to
lift each other up and, you know, encourage each other and and
also call each other out oncertain occasions if you need to
, and but it's important tobuild that community so
important.
I'm so glad you got to be apart of it and I hope that
you'll go.
You know, continue to write andcreate from that aspect, which
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I think is so interesting.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Yeah, I actually have been asked to be part of
another group of an anthologybook, which I'm not sure it's a
different type of focus.
But through this, another womanhas reached out to me and said
you know, you just seem like atotal badass and I really want
you to shout out to other womenthat you know there are things
that can be done, and it isn'talways pretty and it isn't
(21:56):
always easy, but there's peoplealong the way that'll help you.
And you know that was one ofthe things I put in my book too,
about, you know, just allowingyourself to be vulnerable,
because you'll figure out alongthe way who the people are that
are there for you and that arenot.
And you can.
You can make those choices ofwho you want to keep in your
life and and who you don't.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
Yeah, it's, that's well said.
You do, you can make thosechoices, absolutely, you have
permission to make those choices.
You can make those choices,absolutely, you have permission
to make those choices.
So, as we close today, wherecan people find?
I'll link it in the episodenotes, but where can people
order?
Is it right on Amazon?
It is on Amazon, okay, great,and there's a link there.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Yeah, if you just look at Living Well with Grit
and possibly even if you justtype in Grit.
But I think if you do LivingWell with Grit by Jennifer
Bardot, all the books will popup because they're all available
on there, and now the LivingWell with Grit is also available
, that's fabulous.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Do you have a copy there for the people not that
are listening but are viewing?
Do you have a copy of it?
I'll put one in the notes aswell.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
I did print this off this morning.
Look at that.
I mean that's pretty cool.
I want to point out somethingreally cool that just came about
.
This is just one of thoselittle life blessings.
These shoes are Rose Homersonshoes, are they?
And Jennifer Bardot came oneday and said I have a big
surprise for you.
She's like look at the cover ofmy book.
I am putting your shoes on thecover of my book.
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And that was just like a wowmoment, like thank you.
I didn't ask for it, we didn'tsponsor it and it just it means
the world to me, because thoseare sometimes the ways that we
just find that what we're doingis working Is working.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
I love it.
So, before we close, I want toask you the question I ask
everyone, and I know I thinkI've asked you this before
actually, but Lisa, if you weresitting on the couch and you
look over and there you are, at30, what advice would you give
Lisa at 30?
Speaker 2 (23:51):
So can I give two answers One professionally, one
personally?
Yes, so, because theprofessional one is in my
chapter, and so number one beingan entrepreneur does not mean
you don't have a real job Ifyou're an entrepreneur, if
you're self-employed, you areprofessional, you are real and
you are oftentimes workingharder than people who go to an
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office.
So don't ever discount yourselfas not being professional just
because you're an entrepreneur.
Oftentimes we're told that Iwas, and it was a blemish for me
.
For a while I felt embarrassedby it.
I would say oh, I'm just afreelance art director.
I wasn't.
What I needed to be saying wasI own my own freelance art
(24:34):
direction company and I'm reallygood at it.
And if you know anybody thatneeds something, let me know.
So that's one.
And then the world is full.
The corporate world is full ofegotistical people that will try
to bring you down, but it isalso full of people who want to
build you up and support you.
They're out there, you'll findthem.
You let yourself be open tothose and let the others go.
(24:57):
Now on a personal level.
I already mentioned this oneabout the curveballs.
But just be prepared.
Just be prepared, and whenyou're not prepared, get
yourself back up and dustyourself off and just keep going
and find those people who arethere to help you, because
there's so many that are, and Iwas struck.
(25:18):
I just want to close with oneof the quick things that you put
on your questions I should beprepared for is people that
inspire me.
Yes, I was struck this year bytwo well, by three women, and
I'm going to make it fastbecause I know we need to sum it
up here.
So my niece had a five-year-oldson, was diagnosed with acute
(25:46):
liver cancer, kind of had astomach ache and the next thing,
they know, boom, they are infull-blown chemo.
And you know most people don'texpect this.
She didn't expect it and Iwatched her as she went through
all these chemo treatments andyou know his surgery and he rang
(26:09):
the bell on New Year's Eve andnow they're, you know, getting
more chemo and then scans.
And you know she just kepttalking about how you know I've
been puked on, peed on, cried on, screamed at, and she just kept
moving forward on, screamed atand she just kept moving forward
(26:30):
.
And then my cousin, who is alsoabout the same age and has two
little girls, she herself camedown or was diagnosed with
leukemia and went through a yearof experiencing this from her
own level while trying tomaintain a family.
Her sister was a perfect matchfor a bone marrow transplant and
she is also now in remission.
But the one thing that I justkept feeling when I would read
(26:52):
both of these women's posts ortalk to them or get texts from
them, is that they just neverquit encouraging themselves and
allowing help, allowing peopleto help them, and that's what I
think, as women, we oftentimesdon't do.
We think we've got it.
We want to be strong and wemight be fighting a big battle,
(27:14):
we might be fighting an internalbattle, but we just have to let
ourselves be encouraged and letpeople help us, because we do
want to help.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
That's powerful.
That's a great way to end this.
Thanks, lisa.
I love that.
I love that and I hope they'redoing well, thinking about you,
sending love to you over in StLouis.
Thanks for writing this.
I think it's amazing.
Thank you, look forward tosharing it with everyone.
We'll have the link on thereand look forward to doing more
together in 2025.
I would love that as well, amy.
Thank you so much.
All right, we'll see ya.
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