April 20, 2025 • 38 mins
Meet actor, writer and producer Maria Angelico, she's absolutely killing it, you can see her on Strife alongside Asher Keddie, in Stateless with Kate Box and Jai Courtney, The Newsreader, The Clearing, Apple Cider Vinegar and of course we had to talk about her role in We Can Be Heroes with Chris Lilly. With all of these wins she;s so unaffected and humble.
We talked about having the same acting training here in Australia, and what she loved and didnt love about it. That's what I think I loved most about Maria, she's confident and comfortable with who she is as a human, and it shows, not just in her work but in the way she lives and carries herself as a human being.
We look at comedy Vs drama and which space she prefers to play in. We talk about imposter syndrome and what the dream gig is!
Maria, you're a force and I mean that in the best way, you're unapologetically yourself and it shows, and I'm here for it. I cannot wait to see what comes next for you my friend.
Maria's insta is a great way to stay up to date with her work: https://www.instagram.com/mariacreatesdrama/
Big love,
Lola
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Get a.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
I'm Lola Berry, nutritionist, author, actor, TV presenter and professional oversharer.
This podcast is all about celebrating failure because I believe
it's a chance for us to learn, grow and face
our blind spots. Each week, I'll interview a different guest
about their highs as well as their lows, all in
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a bid to inspire us.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
To fearlessly fail.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Hello there, and welcome to the Potteroony. Today we have
a creative app for you. You know I'm a psucker
for creative. I love interviewing actors, directors, writers, and today
we have an actor, writer and producer Maria Angelico. I
feel like is such like in the energy of doing
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so many projects in Australia. I feel like I've seen
her on so many things, Strife, Sisters, the newsreader, Apple, Cider, Vinegar,
the clearing non stop. This actor is and well, she's
a triple threat actor, writer, producer and fun fact, we
both did the same course, the same acting training in
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Melbourne at sixteenth Streets. That was really nice to figure
out out where our paths crossed. We have been talking
about doing this chat for a couple of years now,
so I feel flip and wrapped that it all timed
in for you, the listener. If you have a little
spark of creativity, which I believe we all do, then
I think this episode is for you. Maria is open,
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kind and generous and I really loved sitting down and
chatting with her. And Maria, thank you for bringing me coffee.
She was my first of five podcasts back to back
in moubs and came into the pod room a long
black and I was so wrapped. So thank you, thank you,
thank you. I cannot wait to see what is next
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for you.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
And hit me.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Up when you're in America, my friend, because I can't
wait to see you again. All right, listeners, enjoy this
app Marie is wonderful. You're in for a treat. Maria Angelico,
Welcome to the pod, my friend.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Thanks mate, Hi hello.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Actor, writer, producer. Have you directed to I feel like
I've seen that.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
I have a short film and I've done attachments. Yeah,
thank yeah, and I co directed. I did a one
moment show at the Mold House.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Yes, that's when we first started chit chatting about this pod. Yes,
probably two years ago.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, to promote that it's been a
gone moment mate, I.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Know, well I got there in the end, didn't I
just slowly, slowly, we got there. You have been such
a dream to research and to soak up and to
watch strife sisters. The new reader, I have to ask
straight out of the gate filming an eighties wedding? Was
that so much fun with your epic hare?
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (03:08):
It was like the era that my hair is designful
but actually have a funny story about it. So the
act of the plays Brian the guy, I Mary, the
camera man who's actually my best friend in real life.
And when we were setting up to shoot it, the
producers and the show runner Michael Lucas, who's a made
(03:30):
of ours and the director of My Freeman, they were like,
we're trying to cast all the extras for the wedding
and for you know, your family and guests, and we
need people that look like you. And they're like, we
have this idea. It might be the worst idea ever,
but how would you feel if.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
We got all your friends and family to be extra?
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Because I knew we were friends and so we invited
all our friends and family. We were like warning, like
it might actually be a really boring time. It might
be you know, it's two days of extra work. And yeah,
so my sister, who like hates being on camera, was
my like maid of on my Yeah, like all our
friends recent my friends were like extras. His siblings were
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his bridal party, his parents were there, so it kind
of felt like a weird real wedding.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
It was so much fun watching all the costume and
hair and makeup on everyone like obviously you took the cake.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
Yeah, looked like a cake, and leave like the damot,
like all the But it was like I loved seeing
like even the like the way that it shot and
like everyone speaking like you know when you're at an aide.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Not that I know.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
I was born in eighty five, and so I can
only imagine from watching my mom and dad's like wedding
tapes and stuff like that. I'm like, this is exactly
how everyone would have acted.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Well, they made they made for the promo the ABC.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
They got this camera operator using an original old camera.
It's online, you can see it on Instagram. And he
made like a home video.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
That's what it looks like a real wedding. That's why
it's so real.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
And like people like we're confused. They were like where
are they now? And I'm like, it was early last year.
It wasn't It wasn't like thirty years ago.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Good, Yeah, it was great.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Okay, So I know we're jumping straight, but I did
to my story. I had to tell it no, no, no,
I love it. I love it. I had to rump
straight in. But we I this is a bit selfish me,
but I do love finding where our paths crossed, just
because shared experiences. So two, I figured out two places
of our parts.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Okay, let's see.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
So I know you know one. I know you know
one of them, which is sixteenth Street. We boasted the
part time course.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Hugh Stewart, ah photographer. Yeah, he shot me and he
shot you right.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
He takes amazing, amazing I think the best headshots, Like
I feel like the ones he took of me looked
the most like me.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Some shots and I'm like, who's that.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Well, he's very passionate about attainable. So for the listener,
I've interviewed him. So he's incredible. He Melbourne, Sydney Byron Bay.
He'll just go around and it's two hundred and fifty
bucks a pop. You've got these great portrait and he gives.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
You everything like like an hour later and it's so chill,
Like I've done so many headshots over the years, and
that felt like just a fun chat.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
It was the best. I have another length though.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Yeah, I used to practice yoga at Power Living No Melbourne, No,
you taught.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
I did a few classes that you taught. I loved teaching.
That was one of my favorites.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
It it felt like such like a I don't know
that time whenever it was, it feels like one hundred
years ago.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
It was such a community.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
It was like and I loved it, like I would
go every morning, like I was obsessed. But you taught
there sometimes and I did what was it called like
the forty day Challenge.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Oh yeah, I got to do a challenge.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
Yeah I think he did that or I don't know anyway,
I just remember.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
I did nutrition stuff for all this challenges as well.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Yeah. I was like, oh, there's this like nutrition person
there called Lola, And I remember, yeah, that's wild.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
That's such a good that is such a good location.
That one.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
I loved it there still it was.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
It got changed names, but yeah, I don't know if
it is now, but it felt like bullany is that
troof like you're so gorgeous. But I'm so glad you
brought this up because how important is an actor is
self care? And I imagine something like yoga connecting movement
to breath. Yeah, and then breath is like such a
beautiful thing to be aware of as an actor.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Right, I'm important. Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, it's great.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
I think yoga's like been like a really big part
of my I mean I still practice now, not as
religiously as I used to, but I just in terms
of like getting in touch with my body and feeling
into my body and like the technical side of acting training,
I think yoga really helped.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Yeah, big time totally.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
I think as well, also when you get nervous or stressed,
or like there's a big callback or something and you're
like in your head although you're a libern I feel
like you've got quite good at everything's fine.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
No, I mean, it's good just for any tension in
your body.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
I found it like, in particular, I was someone that
I think a long time ago, I found it not
that I my emotions were there, but I felt like
often I found it difficult to be in my body,
Like I found like I was in my head thinking
about emotions rather than feeling where they were in my body,
and doing any kind of exercise is really helpful for
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connecting it all.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
But I feel like.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Yoga in particular, because you're breathing and you're it's slow,
so you can kind of you're not it's easier to
kind of really connect. I don't know, something clicked with
yoga with my emotional body, physical body totally.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Yeah, yeah, I agree, I always. I taught yoga at
sixteenth Street when I was a student there. They coming,
everyone coming out yoga when I was there. Well, no,
they figured out there was a teacher in the room,
Like you all get here an hour early.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
That would have been sick. I would have loved. So
it was so much fun.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
So okay, I loved. So there's so many things I've
loved watching you in and also seeing I feel like,
especially watching you over the last couple of years, I
feel like there's real momentum there, Like I feel like, oh,
you're enough thing. Oh like it feels like you're in
this like like riding the wave right now, which is
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really exciting. So like I have to ask. I know
it's like such a numpty question, but like, what are
some of those highlights other than the wedding.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
I've got.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
I did a movie called Birthright oh not with Travis Jeff.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Yeah, and it's loud. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
So I feel really excited about that. Zoe Pepper who
wrote it and directed it. It's a first feature. Yeah,
and it's just one of the best scripts I've read
and just so wild and fun, and so I'm really
excited about that coming out.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Can you say what it's about.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Yeah, it's.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
I mean, it's kind of a it's a really dark
comedy exploring the housing crisis. Yeah, and here in Australia.
We shot it in w WA. Yeah, and yeah, it's
it's kind of a little bit millennials versus boomers. That's
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all allSome. But yeah, it's cool, it's great. It's really clever.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
And I saw.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
I've read on your bio that that's with Travis Jeff.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
He's such a lot.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
We've had him on the pod twice now way yeah, my.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
God, yeah, little He's heaven.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
I was really nervous because the film there's only four
people in the film. Really, there's there's a couple of
people that pop in and out, but the cast essentially
is four of us in.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
One location for the whole film.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
So it was I think seven weeks shooting, you know,
away from home, and I always get I love shooting away,
so it was like a little.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Holidays and I realize I have to actually work.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
But I was really nervous because I was like, what
if we don't click or what if we don't get
along language with the all day every day, like pretty
much all of my scenes were with Travis, and it
was such a gift that he's like such a lovely human,
like he became my He's my husband in the film,
but he became my husband. Like he was so lovely,
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like was staying the same hotality, be like texting me
like I'm going to get groceries, do you need anything?
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Like?
Speaker 3 (11:20):
He was just so caring And it was such a
hard shoot that it made it so great.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
It was awesome all.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Hart all and also like Zero egoed him off the
back of King Kong. Yeah yeah, apes, Yeah, Planet of
the Apes, and I was like, how are you going?
And I'm like, I saw you on the red carpet
at the Chinese City in Hollywood, like and he's like, yeah,
good mate, Like literally, so on a fazer, very country
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country boy vibes yeah, I'd never leave Australia.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
And I'm like, oh, okay, I guess.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
And like, just on the back of that, like you
have worked with so many great skate box Dr Courtney,
like Whole Mac you were played Dry Cortney's. Yeah, with bambinos,
three three kids, one a newborn, a newborn, which was
actually a set of twins.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
Yeah, because they rotate them because if one vomits or cries,
you kind of swatch that. But then I think we
ended up having two sets of twins because the first
set were.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Really I just thought that there were so many kids
that whole shit. I was just holding children babies. But
that were great, those kids.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
But yeah, working with like all these like I don't know,
if I was everyone set with a cake box, I'd
be like, holy yeah, she's giving me timbers.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Yeah, and she's so like I think I actually said
to her at one point and it didn't I said,
I just want to relate your friend, because I just
she was so cool.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
I don't think I don't know how.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
She's coming on the pot. I'll check with it for you.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
I will check with you, which is so great.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Yeah, Okay, So if you like, how do and this
is not. I feel like I'm asking a question that
maybe I get, Like, do you get imposter syndrome at all?
Like you're standing opposite like Asha Katie or someone you're
just like, but I feel like you've been in the
game so long that you're like, no, I'm here to
do a.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Job, and here I am. Nah, I don't like, I
don't I get it more.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
If I get imposta syndrome at all, it's with writing
stuff because I didn't study writing. I love writing and
I do writing, but often I'm yeah, I'm like, oh,
I don't know what I'm I don't know what I'm doing.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
I'm just winking it.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
And particularly if I'm working with someone that's giving me
notes or.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Collaborating or their script editing.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
I yeah, it's pretty easy for me to just be like,
I have no idea what I'm doing. So but with acting,
I get starstruck sometimes a little bit. But but yeah, no,
I think I've been doing it long enough.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Maybe I don't know. Actually, you.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Know, maybe maybe my next Jove will absolutely freak out.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
I'll get a message from yeah, got star truck definitely.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Like I'm sure I will maybe if I Yeah, I
don't know yeh.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Jason Bateman famously says he goes when he gets on set,
he'll like meet his castmates and he'll be like, oh,
I better go watch those movies or that, like because
you meet them they're lovely. Yeah, And he goes and
then you come back to work and it's saying it's
like it's petrifying because you're you become in all of
these people and you're like, should I meant to be
playing beside you? And I'm like I feel like that'd
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be a really real thing as an actor.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
I mean, or you meet them, I get on set
and like, oh you have rehearsal or whatever, and I'm like, hey,
I know you. And then I'm like, oh no, I
just watched them inside.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Yeah, I feel like a real idiot. Yeah. People are
people are really talented. People are really great and impressive,
and you.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
Know, you kind of have to ignore that and just
focus on what's in front of you a lot of
the time.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
I have to ask because I've seen a couple of
interviews you've done from Los Angeles and I that's where
I'm based.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
What like when you've.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Gone over there, Like, how's it been? Because I feel
like the industry feels quite different in some ways. But that's,
to be completely honest with you, is that's because I'm
seen as a pod host and nutritionist here. So I've
had pretty much no luck acting in Australia. But as
soon as I get to America and from my agent's like,
oh and you're a nutritionist, I'm like yeah, they're like
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amazing and you're.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Yeah, oh amazing, Like yeah, it's so encouraging. It's very different.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
The tall poppy does not exist, and they're just like
how exciting. They're so encouraging and like you can kind
of be anything, which I love.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
I love that. Yeah, American culture.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Yeah, and I do feel like because you're in the
melting pot. It's just like I got cast in a
pilot from being in a yoga like literally working but working,
thank you, but working at a yoga studio, not acting,
like literally like just being like, hey, how you going,
let's do some down dog.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
People want like I think there's like a bit of
an American cultural thing of like they want to discover you.
They want to be like, you know, the one that
film all love. Yeah, but there's this I don't know,
it's it's kind of this. I think that's what's so
thrilling about being in the States because you're like anything
could happen and it feels so abundant with like opportunity,
and I think it can still exist here in Australia,
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but it's we're a bit more looking sidbeds.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
I think totually the thing that I find with actors
in Australia versus because I have trained my guts out.
I trained here, but I train a lot in LA
and no one gate keeps in LA. No, Like if
you were over and I did an audition for something
and I'm like, this actually doesn't suit me. This suits Maria.
Like you just you literally would just connect and away
you go.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
Yeah, And and.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Like I don't have a mate from London over there.
He's like I need to be in acting class NIME,
and I just straight away just was like, I know exactly,
you need to be here goo and just like introduce them.
The gatekeeping thing is like the opportunity is, or the
the mentality is, there's enough for every.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
There's less a fa scarcity mindset for sure, but I
think that because there is more stuff totally. But at
the same time, I just don't think there's any excuse.
I think even if there's, I don't know. I'm really
all for like trusting that there's more to come and
the sharing and connecting and being like to your friend,
Oh my god, I just did this auditionally. You should
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audition for it too. Is such a nice way to
be because you're putting trust in yourself that it's not
like the only chance you're going to get. It's like, oh,
there's going to be so many more opportunities, so I
might as well.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
If I don't get it, I prefer my friend got it.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
You know.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
I feel like it's like I don't know, it's it's
such a nice thing and I wish Australia was more
like that. I'd understand why it isn't because it's like
a small industry.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Yeah, it'd be so much nice. Ang fun, It's so fun.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
So I have to ask, do you have plans to
go back to America? Just selfish and do you have
plans to go back to America like.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
You want to hang out with Yes? Please another coffee day?
It would be nice.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Yeah, I do this year I can't talk fully on
about but yeah, I do amazing a few months I'm
heading over.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Well, you've got a mate waiting for you.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
I'm excited. I haven't been in a while.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
So she looks she got hit by the fires, but
she's coming.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
She's coming good.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
It's an amazing Americans whole. And this is the wrong metaphor
to give right now, but the phoenix from the ashes
thing is very much the American we will rebuild, you know.
Like so same with the industry, and like that caused
so much of a call for the entertainment industry to
like support local talent. Yeah. So okay, So you've got
a friend waiting for you in LA and I want
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to talk to you about training because I think in
the school, the training system in Australia to America is
quite different, and in that we do long courses and
we kind of lock in for a few years and
really kind of like make sure we've got such a
vast understanding of different techniques and styles and methods.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Yeah, it's like more of a British format.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
It feels like it's.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Very which is cool.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
I like the focus on like really getting rid of
all distraction and just honing in. I always found it
something that I was like kind of resistant to though,
because I started getting acting work when I was in
my team, and so to take three years out and
just like go kind of I mean not that I
was like thriving, but I was like, I really liked
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getting my you know, guest is on City Homicide.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
Yeah, so I loved that. So I didn't want to
stop doing that. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
So I'd like the American format that you can kind
of just do one class a week or dropping classes.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
Or yeah, master classes stuff. I think it's cool.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
I think that's why sixteenth Street appealed to me more
because it felt like that was supportive of actors students
getting work whilst studying. It didn't seem like something but
you just right, yeah, yeah, do.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
You have any highlights from I mean I loved training
with Ian Sinclair.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
I didn't train with him. I trained before he was
attached to the school. Yeah, so you would have been
Kim Kim. I mean, there was a bunch of teachers
that are no longer there, Penelope Trader who recently passed.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Actually, she was incredible, incredible.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
She did all these beautiful yat like energetic stuff.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
It was so amazing. She was incredible. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
Look, I had a funny time, Like I loved studying there,
but I also like I struggled, Like I was kind
of a I don't know, I was a brat. I was.
I was very young, and like I was kind of
just a little party monster, and I was like, I
think my ego is really I was like, I'm already
working in film and TV and I don't need to
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be here, like I think. But then I also really
cared about it, like I took it very seriously. But
I think there was an element of Yeah, either some
stuff I felt like I was like I already know this,
or I struggled and some stuff really worked for me.
I'm so glad that I studied there though, Like it
was so great in giving me. I mean, it really
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got rid of any imposter syndrome that I would have
had because I was like, well, I've studied this, I've
got the terminology. It really helped with like technical stuff
like voice training, yeah, Alexander technique.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
Yeah. I worked with Panne McDonald.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Who was amazing and a yeah, like all of that
stuff really helped. And just doing scenes study and I
really unlocked my like love for like reading plays, yeah,
all of that stuff. Yeah, But there was other things
where I think I became so neurotic, and like I
came out of there a bit like going into auditions
being like susductory, such a wag stone, like trying to
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like do these like you know, I'm not in it,
and it's like, oh my god, what was I doing?
You know, expecting like someone everyone just to be in
or give you a job straight away. So it kind
of but that, you know, I don't blame the school
for that. That was just me being you know, but.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
I grow it up.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
I think it's also just pretty common. Yeah, with young
actors coming straight out of drama school. You kind of
like you're so well versed in all the terminology and
like being really grounded, and you know, you've been spending
all day every day thinking about all of your ship
and you kind of forget that, Like auditioning is actually
just being in the real world getting to know people.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Like living curious, but.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
You still have to like get their own time, find
a part. Yeah, Like you know, people don't have time
to give you a million takes, like you have to
do your job. Yeah, And I think, yeah, it's you know,
legit to.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Make you as a like very successful working actor.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
I love it. It's very success.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
Do you still train or do you work with a
coach or dialect coach You've got like an American audition.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
Like I have. I have one of've like you know,
with my American team. Sometimes if I'm like really, you know,
I've been really close to certain things, or it's like
a specific dialect with a character where I'll do a session,
but no, I do. I mean, I'm a big one
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for therapy, like and I know that sounds really no
adult genan act talking because it's not training, it's for
like your personal growth. But I think just being connected
to yourself helps you be a better artist. So like
I'm all for doing that regularly. And I do yeah,
(23:51):
like I like I said, yoga plarties, I do lots
of physical stuff. But I haven't really done training in
a while.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
I find.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
I got a bit stuck in it. Like it was
easy to feel like I don't know, I think sometimes
when you're training a lot more. For me, it felt
like I'm not ready. I'm not ready to be an
actor because I'm still training. And I think it was
good for me to be like.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
I actually, yeah, trust trust myself.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
So but you know, I love the idea of doing
a workshop every now and then, but I just I
haven't been busy.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
That's all right, No, it's it's I also think it's
like different horses for courses, like different people like well
like take something from master class or workshop and then
be like, okay, cool, I've got that in my toolk
it now. And I think it's also case dependent too,
like yeah, if you're working on a specific dialection. Even
(24:47):
coming back to Travis, he booked Gallipoli and then flew
and was like, I've got to stand on the earth.
I've got to go to the sites I've got to
and that was his you know, I.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
Mean, I think that's the thing. I think Sometimes you're like, Okay, well,
you know, I do lots of prep for jobs, or
you know, like I often make a playlist for the
character that I'm working on, or like a pinterest or
like costume is really big for me to help me
kind of get into character.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Like I love. One of my favorite parts.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
Of getting a job is like having a fitting with
the costume designers and really like figuring out who this
person is.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
So that stuff really helps.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
But I say, shoes, them, shoes are so my thing.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
Really, it's like a really it's like because I think
it affects how you stand. Yeah, and it's like how
And I know it sounds like like walk a mile
and you goat shoes.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
But but it is.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
It's like it is. It does affect how you hold
your body and you stand. Like if I'm wearing a stiletto,
like I'm going to feel so much different energetically than
if I'm wearing like it's like yeah, like scummy olds,
Like I'm going to feel so different.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
So really cost really helps.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
And then times where costume has been like changed on
me for whatever reason, that can really throw you.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
You know you have to but yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
Costume and yeah, do lots of but it depends on
the job again, like it depends like you know, if
I'm playing a mother, or I'll spend a lot of
time with my friends kids or you.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Know, like I say that before, like it just really depends.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
Or I mean obviously, if I'm playing someone that has
a specific skill, I'm going to like.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
Go to medical school, you know.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Watching out graz Anatomy.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
So I know you.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Played both comedic and dramatic. Comedy is like your favor right.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
Yeah, I mean I love comedy. Yeah, yeah, I mean,
I like to think I'm funny.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
I don't know, but but yeah, I I feel like
as an actor, though, often it's like you're playing the
same thing, Like playing drama and comedy are quite similar.
I think it's like the steaks, just lying different places,
like like in comedy the steak because a high over
often like really minuscule little things. Yeah, but yeah, Look,
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I do a lot of drama, and I enjoy doing drama.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Often.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
I feel like a drama set is sometimes more fun
than a comedy set because comedy can be quite hard.
You know, you're like rhythm and everyone's like really trying
to make the jokes land, and because the crew have
to be quiet because they can't ruin you take, you
always feel like you're bombing, Like you're like when you
do the table read.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Everyone's laughing, everyone's like, this script's amazing.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
Then when you start shooting the scenes, it's like crickets
because they have to be quiet.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
And then you're like is this even funny anymore? And
you start getting in your head.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
But drama, like you know, it's I don't know, because
often if you're doing something quite heavy, like I just
shot a TV show Family next Door, for the ABC
that comes out later this year, and it's drama, and
I feel like, like, you know, we were shooting some
pretty heavy scenes and we all just became really silly
on set because it's like you have to kind of
(28:07):
balance it out and so then it leaves.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
Yeah, we were just like doing singing all these stupid
songs and being really silly. So I don't know, but look,
I love both. I love with my writing. It's always
comedy just because I find things funny.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
How do you go with like saying you're shooting comedy
and then someone do you ever get the note? Not
the note, but like, hey we've got that. Take now
go rogue?
Speaker 3 (28:31):
Like oh, I love that, like so fun my favorite,
Like we're my first ever like regular, what do you
call it? An ongoing role on a TV show? Where
was on Crystals We Can Be Heroes? Yes, And that
was the first time and there was no script for that,
what no script at all, so each that it was
(28:52):
just a skeleton. So it'd be like in this scene,
Jamay does this, and the friends are going to react,
The friends are going to be supportive, the friends are
going to take it seriously, or there's going to be
friction and that was it, and so we would just
and our auditions for it were they gave me and
(29:12):
my friend who actually got the part with me, Adrian Smith.
We did it together. They gave us, and we were
like teenagers. I think I was like fifteen sixteen.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
They gave us.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
I think it was like a Dolly magazine and they
were like, just go for it. Just talk shit about
everything in there. And so we were just like being
little rat bags like we were and improvising and that's
how we.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Got the job.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
So on set there was Yeah. So Chris was in
character the whole time as Jimmy. I only knew him
as jematically really the whole time. It wasn't until the
rat party that I saw him out of and I
was like, who is this.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
He's quite que He's like quite quiet in real life,
really really quiet.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
But yeah, like we improvised everything, and it was so
inspiring to me. It was the first time I saw
someone create a show, running a show, doing comedy.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
And I grew up.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
I was a massive Christopher guest fan, so I loved
like Spinal Tap, Best in Show, Waiting for Government, all
my favorite films, and they're quite similar. Like kind of mockumentary,
and I think they do a lot of improv, so
I was just like, I think that was the one
experience that made me really go, I kind of want
to do this as as an actor for the rest
of my life.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
So yeah, I love improv. Sometimes. I mean it's sometimes
you can go.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
And then sometimes sometimes it's also like can be intimidating
or like it's hard if something just comes naturally, and
often if it's funny, then you laugh or you might
ruin the take because you're like trying not to laugh, and.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
Then you have to do it again and it hits different.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
Yeah, it's like, I don't know, it's like even though
its actors, we're used to doing something over and over again,
when it's improved, it feels a bit it's different. But yeah,
it's like one of my favorite things. And I just
think sometimes I mean, if you're working with a really
great script, it's amazing, but sometimes it can really elevate
the scene or really just yeah, and if you're working
(31:09):
with someone that's.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Really electric in alive, Yeah, it's the best. It's my favorite. Yeah.
I feel like that's where.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
Comics are so good when they get like cast in
a movie or a TV shot because they can hit
their lines and then straight away just run.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
It's just kind of a goal like I like to,
Like I like to, you want to bring You want
to obviously fill the role and do the job, but
you want to also bring extra stuff to offer.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Yeah, because we all have so much to offer.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
Yeah, so you want to Yeah, And I mean you
don't want to sit there and try to think of
something funny to like, No, but if something comes to
you or if there's something yeah, you know, if there's
like I don't know, food on set and you ask
the art department, You're like, can I eat this in
the scene or whatever, and just add to it, like yeah,
it can make stuff so much richer and also it's
(31:58):
also fun.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Yeah. Any stuff to do makes it feel real and
more truthful. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Yeah, I have to ask ps, how quick is this going?
This is? But I keep looking at No.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
That's why i'll quick is it going? Chatter box?
Speaker 2 (32:13):
You're killing it? I have to ask you.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
Yeah, well you.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
Won't be cutting that out yea. So for a young
actor that is maybe like I don't know if I train,
I don't know how to get an agent. What should
I do do I feel my own show real like
for someone green that wants to work as an actor
or wants to work in the industry, because I do
(32:41):
think there is a bit of a gap between the
training and the business side. But there is a business
side to this gap. It's like it's like a whole.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
It's like a it's a completely different thing, like navigating
a career with like you know, you got to remember
all these people you work. It's your agent's casting agents, directors,
the crew, like the costume designers, make up everyone.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
It's like they're people.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
They're like people that work really hard and have made
heaps of sacrifices to do what they do. And you know,
it's a real part of being an actor is also
like being part of a team and like making you know,
we're all problem solving one thing. When you're making a
movie or a TV show, you're all working together to
like work on one thing.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
And you've got to remember it's not all about you.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
And I think sometimes drama school, of course, because you're
focusing on acting, it can you can kind of have
blinkers on and you can feel like it's.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
All about you and it's one piece.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
Yeah, Like I was working with an actress one and
the boom operator. You know that I have the big
microphone on the stick. You know. We were shooting and
I think it was a d or someone on set
was like, oh, we've got boom shadow. Yeah, it's when
you know THEO makes shadow. And the actress I was
working with, she goes boob shadow and she was like
(34:07):
though she thought her booms shadow. Man.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
It was funny and I was bless you. I love
you so much.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
But it's that thing of like you, just as the actor,
you just think everything is about you. I think when
every every conversation they're talking about you, or the directors
like we need to go again, and no one tells
you why you think it's all about you when it's
like it's most of the time it's not.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
Yeah, it's actually not.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
It's like we're all everyone's got little job that they're
focusing on, whether it's pulling focus on the lens of
the camera or whatever. I've totally digressed though that. What
was a question I love as for a younger.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
Yeah, but I love that as well, like not make
it too much about you, like just go in, stay present,
you know, do your job.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
And also respect everyone else's job because you're not more
important than in anyone and it we're so important, Like
you can do an amazing job.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
But if this sounds bad, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 (34:59):
If the if you've got a piece of hair like
eye doesn't matter, like like you can't use that take.
So there's everyone's job is so important. But if you
if someone's like, what's the advice to someone getting it
like a young and or when I say young and
just like someone that's like, Oh, I think I want
to do this thing, but it's really scary and daunting.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
Just just do it. Just do it.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
Like I think there's so many talented, amazing people in
the world that we don't get to see what they
have to offer because they're scared and they're waiting till
they're ready or waiting till they're perfect. And it's like
we're never going to be perfect. Yeah, like it's the
imperfect world. Just just just yeah. Like in if it's studying,
(35:44):
or if it's you know, creating your own show cast
profile and submitting to jobs on your own, or if
it's reaching out to agents, or if it's writing a
show for fringe festival, or like doing amateur theater just
like you know, I think, yes, you can learn from studying,
but you also learn from being in the world and
putting stuff out there.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
Or if you want to write, write.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
Something like I feel like so many people like I
just want to write, and I'm like, okay, well right,
And it might be the basis ships they say. The
first one always is yeah, but then you've got something
to like work with, you know.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
It's like it's really hard.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
You can't put anything out there if you don't have
anything to put out there.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
And I really believe that we've all got something to offer.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
So and every time, like I think of stuff, the
first stuff I made or the first jobs I did,
I'm like, they're pretty crap.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
But they get better and I know I'll get better
in future. I look back on stuff I'm doing and be.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
Like, oh, but but it's like you just grow and
like evolve, and yeah, I think sometimes yeah, don't don't
be a perfectionist.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
That would be my advice.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
And just also, you know you will if you study,
you'll find more versatility as an actor or an artist.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
But it doesn't mean that you can't play character. Now
you can just play someone that's quite similar to you.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
Yeah, the cool thing about studying is it puts you
straight into a community of like minded creatively.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
That is so that's a really you need to find
people that respect and encourage you to do that. Yeah,
I think studying acting is so great. Or joining a
theater company. Yeah, or like I had a it was
like a book club, but it was like a script
club and each week we'd read a play and I
did it for like two years.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
Like stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (37:27):
It's like, you want to find people that care about
what you do as much as you do. And I think,
particularly in Australia, like talking about tap poppy syndrome and stuff,
I think it's easy to feel like it's this like
flippant silly thing, particularly just anything artistic, any artistic pursuit.
And I think it's important to be around people that
(37:50):
see the value in art and you as a little actor.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
Oh my goodness, friend, I could talk to you all
day long. We are we are there.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
I'm going to do a hot seat with you though. Okay,
I'm going to drink my coffee drink. I feel like
I had boogers in my nose.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
But I'm totally keeping all of this in. So, first
of all. Thank you for being here today. You're flip
and wonderful. My pleasure.
Speaker 1 (38:13):
Thanks for having you.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
That's a wrap on another episode of Fearlessly Failing. As always,
thank you to our guests and let's continue the conversation
on Instagram. I'm at Yamo Lullaberry.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
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I'm Lola Berry, nutritionist, author, actor, TV presenter and professional oversharer.
This podcast is all about celebrating failure because I believe
it's a chance for us to learn, grow and face
our blind spots. Each week, I'll interview a different guest
about their highs as well as their lows, all in
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a bid to inspire us.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
To fearlessly fail.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Hello there, and welcome to the Potteroony. Today we have
a creative app for you. You know I'm a psucker
for creative. I love interviewing actors, directors, writers, and today
we have an actor, writer and producer Maria Angelico. I
feel like is such like in the energy of doing
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so many projects in Australia. I feel like I've seen
her on so many things, Strife, Sisters, the newsreader, Apple, Cider, Vinegar,
the clearing non stop. This actor is and well, she's
a triple threat actor, writer, producer and fun fact, we
both did the same course, the same acting training in
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Melbourne at sixteenth Streets. That was really nice to figure
out out where our paths crossed. We have been talking
about doing this chat for a couple of years now,
so I feel flip and wrapped that it all timed
in for you, the listener. If you have a little
spark of creativity, which I believe we all do, then
I think this episode is for you. Maria is open,
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kind and generous and I really loved sitting down and
chatting with her. And Maria, thank you for bringing me coffee.
She was my first of five podcasts back to back
in moubs and came into the pod room a long
black and I was so wrapped. So thank you, thank you,
thank you. I cannot wait to see what is next
(02:06):
for you.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
And hit me.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Up when you're in America, my friend, because I can't
wait to see you again. All right, listeners, enjoy this
app Marie is wonderful. You're in for a treat. Maria Angelico,
Welcome to the pod, my friend.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Thanks mate, Hi hello.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Actor, writer, producer. Have you directed to I feel like
I've seen that.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
I have a short film and I've done attachments. Yeah,
thank yeah, and I co directed. I did a one
moment show at the Mold House.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Yes, that's when we first started chit chatting about this pod. Yes,
probably two years ago.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, to promote that it's been a
gone moment mate, I.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Know, well I got there in the end, didn't I
just slowly, slowly, we got there. You have been such
a dream to research and to soak up and to
watch strife sisters. The new reader, I have to ask
straight out of the gate filming an eighties wedding? Was
that so much fun with your epic hare?
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (03:08):
It was like the era that my hair is designful
but actually have a funny story about it. So the
act of the plays Brian the guy, I Mary, the
camera man who's actually my best friend in real life.
And when we were setting up to shoot it, the
producers and the show runner Michael Lucas, who's a made
(03:30):
of ours and the director of My Freeman, they were like,
we're trying to cast all the extras for the wedding
and for you know, your family and guests, and we
need people that look like you. And they're like, we
have this idea. It might be the worst idea ever,
but how would you feel if.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
We got all your friends and family to be extra?
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Because I knew we were friends and so we invited
all our friends and family. We were like warning, like
it might actually be a really boring time. It might
be you know, it's two days of extra work. And yeah,
so my sister, who like hates being on camera, was
my like maid of on my Yeah, like all our
friends recent my friends were like extras. His siblings were
(04:13):
his bridal party, his parents were there, so it kind
of felt like a weird real wedding.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
It was so much fun watching all the costume and
hair and makeup on everyone like obviously you took the cake.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
Yeah, looked like a cake, and leave like the damot,
like all the But it was like I loved seeing
like even the like the way that it shot and
like everyone speaking like you know when you're at an aide.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Not that I know.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
I was born in eighty five, and so I can
only imagine from watching my mom and dad's like wedding
tapes and stuff like that. I'm like, this is exactly
how everyone would have acted.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Well, they made they made for the promo the ABC.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
They got this camera operator using an original old camera.
It's online, you can see it on Instagram. And he
made like a home video.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
That's what it looks like a real wedding. That's why
it's so real.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
And like people like we're confused. They were like where
are they now? And I'm like, it was early last year.
It wasn't It wasn't like thirty years ago.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Good, Yeah, it was great.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Okay, So I know we're jumping straight, but I did
to my story. I had to tell it no, no, no,
I love it. I love it. I had to rump
straight in. But we I this is a bit selfish me,
but I do love finding where our paths crossed, just
because shared experiences. So two, I figured out two places
of our parts.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Okay, let's see.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
So I know you know one. I know you know
one of them, which is sixteenth Street. We boasted the
part time course.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Hugh Stewart, ah photographer. Yeah, he shot me and he
shot you right.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
He takes amazing, amazing I think the best headshots, Like
I feel like the ones he took of me looked
the most like me.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Some shots and I'm like, who's that.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Well, he's very passionate about attainable. So for the listener,
I've interviewed him. So he's incredible. He Melbourne, Sydney Byron Bay.
He'll just go around and it's two hundred and fifty
bucks a pop. You've got these great portrait and he gives.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
You everything like like an hour later and it's so chill,
Like I've done so many headshots over the years, and
that felt like just a fun chat.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
It was the best. I have another length though.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Yeah, I used to practice yoga at Power Living No Melbourne, No,
you taught.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
I did a few classes that you taught. I loved teaching.
That was one of my favorites.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
It it felt like such like a I don't know
that time whenever it was, it feels like one hundred
years ago.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
It was such a community.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
It was like and I loved it, like I would
go every morning, like I was obsessed. But you taught
there sometimes and I did what was it called like
the forty day Challenge.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Oh yeah, I got to do a challenge.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
Yeah I think he did that or I don't know anyway,
I just remember.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
I did nutrition stuff for all this challenges as well.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Yeah. I was like, oh, there's this like nutrition person
there called Lola, And I remember, yeah, that's wild.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
That's such a good that is such a good location.
That one.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
I loved it there still it was.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
It got changed names, but yeah, I don't know if
it is now, but it felt like bullany is that
troof like you're so gorgeous. But I'm so glad you
brought this up because how important is an actor is
self care? And I imagine something like yoga connecting movement
to breath. Yeah, and then breath is like such a
beautiful thing to be aware of as an actor.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Right, I'm important. Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, it's great.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
I think yoga's like been like a really big part
of my I mean I still practice now, not as
religiously as I used to, but I just in terms
of like getting in touch with my body and feeling
into my body and like the technical side of acting training,
I think yoga really helped.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Yeah, big time totally.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
I think as well, also when you get nervous or stressed,
or like there's a big callback or something and you're
like in your head although you're a libern I feel
like you've got quite good at everything's fine.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
No, I mean, it's good just for any tension in
your body.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
I found it like, in particular, I was someone that
I think a long time ago, I found it not
that I my emotions were there, but I felt like
often I found it difficult to be in my body,
Like I found like I was in my head thinking
about emotions rather than feeling where they were in my body,
and doing any kind of exercise is really helpful for
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connecting it all.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
But I feel like.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Yoga in particular, because you're breathing and you're it's slow,
so you can kind of you're not it's easier to
kind of really connect. I don't know, something clicked with
yoga with my emotional body, physical body totally.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Yeah, yeah, I agree, I always. I taught yoga at
sixteenth Street when I was a student there. They coming,
everyone coming out yoga when I was there. Well, no,
they figured out there was a teacher in the room,
Like you all get here an hour early.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
That would have been sick. I would have loved. So
it was so much fun.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
So okay, I loved. So there's so many things I've
loved watching you in and also seeing I feel like,
especially watching you over the last couple of years, I
feel like there's real momentum there, Like I feel like, oh,
you're enough thing. Oh like it feels like you're in
this like like riding the wave right now, which is
(09:22):
really exciting. So like I have to ask. I know
it's like such a numpty question, but like, what are
some of those highlights other than the wedding.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
I've got.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
I did a movie called Birthright oh not with Travis Jeff.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Yeah, and it's loud. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
So I feel really excited about that. Zoe Pepper who
wrote it and directed it. It's a first feature. Yeah,
and it's just one of the best scripts I've read
and just so wild and fun, and so I'm really
excited about that coming out.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Can you say what it's about.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Yeah, it's.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
I mean, it's kind of a it's a really dark
comedy exploring the housing crisis. Yeah, and here in Australia.
We shot it in w WA. Yeah, and yeah, it's
it's kind of a little bit millennials versus boomers. That's
(10:17):
all allSome. But yeah, it's cool, it's great. It's really clever.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
And I saw.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
I've read on your bio that that's with Travis Jeff.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
He's such a lot.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
We've had him on the pod twice now way yeah, my.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
God, yeah, little He's heaven.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
I was really nervous because the film there's only four
people in the film. Really, there's there's a couple of
people that pop in and out, but the cast essentially
is four of us in.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
One location for the whole film.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
So it was I think seven weeks shooting, you know,
away from home, and I always get I love shooting away,
so it was like a little.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Holidays and I realize I have to actually work.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
But I was really nervous because I was like, what
if we don't click or what if we don't get
along language with the all day every day, like pretty
much all of my scenes were with Travis, and it
was such a gift that he's like such a lovely human,
like he became my He's my husband in the film,
but he became my husband. Like he was so lovely,
(11:15):
like was staying the same hotality, be like texting me
like I'm going to get groceries, do you need anything?
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Like?
Speaker 3 (11:20):
He was just so caring And it was such a
hard shoot that it made it so great.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
It was awesome all.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Hart all and also like Zero egoed him off the
back of King Kong. Yeah yeah, apes, Yeah, Planet of
the Apes, and I was like, how are you going?
And I'm like, I saw you on the red carpet
at the Chinese City in Hollywood, like and he's like, yeah,
good mate, Like literally, so on a fazer, very country
(11:47):
country boy vibes yeah, I'd never leave Australia.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
And I'm like, oh, okay, I guess.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
And like, just on the back of that, like you
have worked with so many great skate box Dr Courtney,
like Whole Mac you were played Dry Cortney's. Yeah, with bambinos,
three three kids, one a newborn, a newborn, which was
actually a set of twins.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
Yeah, because they rotate them because if one vomits or cries,
you kind of swatch that. But then I think we
ended up having two sets of twins because the first
set were.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Really I just thought that there were so many kids
that whole shit. I was just holding children babies. But
that were great, those kids.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
But yeah, working with like all these like I don't know,
if I was everyone set with a cake box, I'd
be like, holy yeah, she's giving me timbers.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Yeah, and she's so like I think I actually said
to her at one point and it didn't I said,
I just want to relate your friend, because I just
she was so cool.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
I don't think I don't know how.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
She's coming on the pot. I'll check with it for you.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
I will check with you, which is so great.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Yeah, Okay, So if you like, how do and this
is not. I feel like I'm asking a question that
maybe I get, Like, do you get imposter syndrome at all?
Like you're standing opposite like Asha Katie or someone you're
just like, but I feel like you've been in the
game so long that you're like, no, I'm here to
do a.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Job, and here I am. Nah, I don't like, I
don't I get it more.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
If I get imposta syndrome at all, it's with writing
stuff because I didn't study writing. I love writing and
I do writing, but often I'm yeah, I'm like, oh,
I don't know what I'm I don't know what I'm doing.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
I'm just winking it.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
And particularly if I'm working with someone that's giving me
notes or.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Collaborating or their script editing.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
I yeah, it's pretty easy for me to just be like,
I have no idea what I'm doing. So but with acting,
I get starstruck sometimes a little bit. But but yeah, no,
I think I've been doing it long enough.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Maybe I don't know. Actually, you.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Know, maybe maybe my next Jove will absolutely freak out.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
I'll get a message from yeah, got star truck definitely.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Like I'm sure I will maybe if I Yeah, I
don't know yeh.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Jason Bateman famously says he goes when he gets on set,
he'll like meet his castmates and he'll be like, oh,
I better go watch those movies or that, like because
you meet them they're lovely. Yeah, And he goes and
then you come back to work and it's saying it's
like it's petrifying because you're you become in all of
these people and you're like, should I meant to be
playing beside you? And I'm like I feel like that'd
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be a really real thing as an actor.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
I mean, or you meet them, I get on set
and like, oh you have rehearsal or whatever, and I'm like, hey,
I know you. And then I'm like, oh no, I
just watched them inside.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Yeah, I feel like a real idiot. Yeah. People are
people are really talented. People are really great and impressive,
and you.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
Know, you kind of have to ignore that and just
focus on what's in front of you a lot of
the time.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
I have to ask because I've seen a couple of
interviews you've done from Los Angeles and I that's where
I'm based.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
What like when you've.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Gone over there, Like, how's it been? Because I feel
like the industry feels quite different in some ways. But that's,
to be completely honest with you, is that's because I'm
seen as a pod host and nutritionist here. So I've
had pretty much no luck acting in Australia. But as
soon as I get to America and from my agent's like,
oh and you're a nutritionist, I'm like yeah, they're like
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amazing and you're.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Yeah, oh amazing, Like yeah, it's so encouraging. It's very different.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
The tall poppy does not exist, and they're just like
how exciting. They're so encouraging and like you can kind
of be anything, which I love.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
I love that. Yeah, American culture.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Yeah, and I do feel like because you're in the
melting pot. It's just like I got cast in a
pilot from being in a yoga like literally working but working,
thank you, but working at a yoga studio, not acting,
like literally like just being like, hey, how you going,
let's do some down dog.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
People want like I think there's like a bit of
an American cultural thing of like they want to discover you.
They want to be like, you know, the one that
film all love. Yeah, but there's this I don't know,
it's it's kind of this. I think that's what's so
thrilling about being in the States because you're like anything
could happen and it feels so abundant with like opportunity,
and I think it can still exist here in Australia,
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but it's we're a bit more looking sidbeds.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
I think totually the thing that I find with actors
in Australia versus because I have trained my guts out.
I trained here, but I train a lot in LA
and no one gate keeps in LA. No, Like if
you were over and I did an audition for something
and I'm like, this actually doesn't suit me. This suits Maria.
Like you just you literally would just connect and away
you go.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
Yeah, And and.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Like I don't have a mate from London over there.
He's like I need to be in acting class NIME,
and I just straight away just was like, I know exactly,
you need to be here goo and just like introduce them.
The gatekeeping thing is like the opportunity is, or the
the mentality is, there's enough for every.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
There's less a fa scarcity mindset for sure, but I
think that because there is more stuff totally. But at
the same time, I just don't think there's any excuse.
I think even if there's, I don't know. I'm really
all for like trusting that there's more to come and
the sharing and connecting and being like to your friend,
Oh my god, I just did this auditionally. You should
(17:32):
audition for it too. Is such a nice way to
be because you're putting trust in yourself that it's not
like the only chance you're going to get. It's like, oh,
there's going to be so many more opportunities, so I
might as well.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
If I don't get it, I prefer my friend got it.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
You know.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
I feel like it's like I don't know, it's it's
such a nice thing and I wish Australia was more
like that. I'd understand why it isn't because it's like
a small industry.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Yeah, it'd be so much nice. Ang fun, It's so fun.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
So I have to ask, do you have plans to
go back to America? Just selfish and do you have
plans to go back to America like.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
You want to hang out with Yes? Please another coffee day?
It would be nice.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Yeah, I do this year I can't talk fully on
about but yeah, I do amazing a few months I'm
heading over.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Well, you've got a mate waiting for you.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
I'm excited. I haven't been in a while.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
So she looks she got hit by the fires, but
she's coming.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
She's coming good.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
It's an amazing Americans whole. And this is the wrong metaphor
to give right now, but the phoenix from the ashes
thing is very much the American we will rebuild, you know.
Like so same with the industry, and like that caused
so much of a call for the entertainment industry to
like support local talent. Yeah. So okay, So you've got
a friend waiting for you in LA and I want
(18:55):
to talk to you about training because I think in
the school, the training system in Australia to America is
quite different, and in that we do long courses and
we kind of lock in for a few years and
really kind of like make sure we've got such a
vast understanding of different techniques and styles and methods.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Yeah, it's like more of a British format.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
It feels like it's.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Very which is cool.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
I like the focus on like really getting rid of
all distraction and just honing in. I always found it
something that I was like kind of resistant to though,
because I started getting acting work when I was in
my team, and so to take three years out and
just like go kind of I mean not that I
was like thriving, but I was like, I really liked
(19:45):
getting my you know, guest is on City Homicide.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
Yeah, so I loved that. So I didn't want to
stop doing that. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
So I'd like the American format that you can kind
of just do one class a week or dropping classes.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
Or yeah, master classes stuff. I think it's cool.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
I think that's why sixteenth Street appealed to me more
because it felt like that was supportive of actors students
getting work whilst studying. It didn't seem like something but
you just right, yeah, yeah, do.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
You have any highlights from I mean I loved training
with Ian Sinclair.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
I didn't train with him. I trained before he was
attached to the school. Yeah, so you would have been
Kim Kim. I mean, there was a bunch of teachers
that are no longer there, Penelope Trader who recently passed.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Actually, she was incredible, incredible.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
She did all these beautiful yat like energetic stuff.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
It was so amazing. She was incredible. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
Look, I had a funny time, Like I loved studying there,
but I also like I struggled, Like I was kind
of a I don't know, I was a brat. I was.
I was very young, and like I was kind of
just a little party monster, and I was like, I
think my ego is really I was like, I'm already
working in film and TV and I don't need to
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be here, like I think. But then I also really
cared about it, like I took it very seriously. But
I think there was an element of Yeah, either some
stuff I felt like I was like I already know this,
or I struggled and some stuff really worked for me.
I'm so glad that I studied there though, Like it
was so great in giving me. I mean, it really
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got rid of any imposter syndrome that I would have
had because I was like, well, I've studied this, I've
got the terminology. It really helped with like technical stuff
like voice training, yeah, Alexander technique.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
Yeah. I worked with Panne McDonald.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Who was amazing and a yeah, like all of that
stuff really helped. And just doing scenes study and I
really unlocked my like love for like reading plays, yeah,
all of that stuff. Yeah, But there was other things
where I think I became so neurotic, and like I
came out of there a bit like going into auditions
being like susductory, such a wag stone, like trying to
(22:04):
like do these like you know, I'm not in it,
and it's like, oh my god, what was I doing?
You know, expecting like someone everyone just to be in
or give you a job straight away. So it kind
of but that, you know, I don't blame the school
for that. That was just me being you know, but.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
I grow it up.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
I think it's also just pretty common. Yeah, with young
actors coming straight out of drama school. You kind of
like you're so well versed in all the terminology and
like being really grounded, and you know, you've been spending
all day every day thinking about all of your ship
and you kind of forget that, Like auditioning is actually
just being in the real world getting to know people.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Like living curious, but.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
You still have to like get their own time, find
a part. Yeah, Like you know, people don't have time
to give you a million takes, like you have to
do your job. Yeah, And I think, yeah, it's you know,
legit to.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Make you as a like very successful working actor.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
I love it. It's very success.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
Do you still train or do you work with a
coach or dialect coach You've got like an American audition.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
Like I have. I have one of've like you know,
with my American team. Sometimes if I'm like really, you know,
I've been really close to certain things, or it's like
a specific dialect with a character where I'll do a session,
but no, I do. I mean, I'm a big one
(23:31):
for therapy, like and I know that sounds really no
adult genan act talking because it's not training, it's for
like your personal growth. But I think just being connected
to yourself helps you be a better artist. So like
I'm all for doing that regularly. And I do yeah,
(23:51):
like I like I said, yoga plarties, I do lots
of physical stuff. But I haven't really done training in
a while.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
I find.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
I got a bit stuck in it. Like it was
easy to feel like I don't know, I think sometimes
when you're training a lot more. For me, it felt
like I'm not ready. I'm not ready to be an
actor because I'm still training. And I think it was
good for me to be like.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
I actually, yeah, trust trust myself.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
So but you know, I love the idea of doing
a workshop every now and then, but I just I
haven't been busy.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
That's all right, No, it's it's I also think it's
like different horses for courses, like different people like well
like take something from master class or workshop and then
be like, okay, cool, I've got that in my toolk
it now. And I think it's also case dependent too,
like yeah, if you're working on a specific dialection. Even
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coming back to Travis, he booked Gallipoli and then flew
and was like, I've got to stand on the earth.
I've got to go to the sites I've got to
and that was his you know, I.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
Mean, I think that's the thing. I think Sometimes you're like, Okay, well,
you know, I do lots of prep for jobs, or
you know, like I often make a playlist for the
character that I'm working on, or like a pinterest or
like costume is really big for me to help me
kind of get into character.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Like I love. One of my favorite parts.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
Of getting a job is like having a fitting with
the costume designers and really like figuring out who this
person is.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
So that stuff really helps.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
But I say, shoes, them, shoes are so my thing.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
Really, it's like a really it's like because I think
it affects how you stand. Yeah, and it's like how
And I know it sounds like like walk a mile
and you goat shoes.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
But but it is.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
It's like it is. It does affect how you hold
your body and you stand. Like if I'm wearing a stiletto,
like I'm going to feel so much different energetically than
if I'm wearing like it's like yeah, like scummy olds,
Like I'm going to feel so different.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
So really cost really helps.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
And then times where costume has been like changed on
me for whatever reason, that can really throw you.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
You know you have to but yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
Costume and yeah, do lots of but it depends on
the job again, like it depends like you know, if
I'm playing a mother, or I'll spend a lot of
time with my friends kids or you.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Know, like I say that before, like it just really depends.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
Or I mean obviously, if I'm playing someone that has
a specific skill, I'm going to like.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
Go to medical school, you know.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Watching out graz Anatomy.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
So I know you.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Played both comedic and dramatic. Comedy is like your favor right.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
Yeah, I mean I love comedy. Yeah, yeah, I mean,
I like to think I'm funny.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
I don't know, but but yeah, I I feel like
as an actor, though, often it's like you're playing the
same thing, Like playing drama and comedy are quite similar.
I think it's like the steaks, just lying different places,
like like in comedy the steak because a high over
often like really minuscule little things. Yeah, but yeah, Look,
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I do a lot of drama, and I enjoy doing drama.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Often.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
I feel like a drama set is sometimes more fun
than a comedy set because comedy can be quite hard.
You know, you're like rhythm and everyone's like really trying
to make the jokes land, and because the crew have
to be quiet because they can't ruin you take, you
always feel like you're bombing, Like you're like when you
do the table read.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Everyone's laughing, everyone's like, this script's amazing.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
Then when you start shooting the scenes, it's like crickets
because they have to be quiet.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
And then you're like is this even funny anymore? And
you start getting in your head.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
But drama, like you know, it's I don't know, because
often if you're doing something quite heavy, like I just
shot a TV show Family next Door, for the ABC
that comes out later this year, and it's drama, and
I feel like, like, you know, we were shooting some
pretty heavy scenes and we all just became really silly
on set because it's like you have to kind of
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balance it out and so then it leaves.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
Yeah, we were just like doing singing all these stupid
songs and being really silly. So I don't know, but look,
I love both. I love with my writing. It's always
comedy just because I find things funny.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
How do you go with like saying you're shooting comedy
and then someone do you ever get the note? Not
the note, but like, hey we've got that. Take now
go rogue?
Speaker 3 (28:31):
Like oh, I love that, like so fun my favorite,
Like we're my first ever like regular, what do you
call it? An ongoing role on a TV show? Where
was on Crystals We Can Be Heroes? Yes, And that
was the first time and there was no script for that,
what no script at all, so each that it was
(28:52):
just a skeleton. So it'd be like in this scene,
Jamay does this, and the friends are going to react,
The friends are going to be supportive, the friends are
going to take it seriously, or there's going to be
friction and that was it, and so we would just
and our auditions for it were they gave me and
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my friend who actually got the part with me, Adrian Smith.
We did it together. They gave us, and we were
like teenagers. I think I was like fifteen sixteen.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
They gave us.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
I think it was like a Dolly magazine and they
were like, just go for it. Just talk shit about
everything in there. And so we were just like being
little rat bags like we were and improvising and that's
how we.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Got the job.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
So on set there was Yeah. So Chris was in
character the whole time as Jimmy. I only knew him
as jematically really the whole time. It wasn't until the
rat party that I saw him out of and I
was like, who is this.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
He's quite que He's like quite quiet in real life,
really really quiet.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
But yeah, like we improvised everything, and it was so
inspiring to me. It was the first time I saw
someone create a show, running a show, doing comedy.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
And I grew up.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
I was a massive Christopher guest fan, so I loved
like Spinal Tap, Best in Show, Waiting for Government, all
my favorite films, and they're quite similar. Like kind of mockumentary,
and I think they do a lot of improv, so
I was just like, I think that was the one
experience that made me really go, I kind of want
to do this as as an actor for the rest
of my life.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
So yeah, I love improv. Sometimes. I mean it's sometimes
you can go.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
And then sometimes sometimes it's also like can be intimidating
or like it's hard if something just comes naturally, and
often if it's funny, then you laugh or you might
ruin the take because you're like trying not to laugh, and.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
Then you have to do it again and it hits different.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
Yeah, it's like, I don't know, it's like even though
its actors, we're used to doing something over and over again,
when it's improved, it feels a bit it's different. But yeah,
it's like one of my favorite things. And I just
think sometimes I mean, if you're working with a really
great script, it's amazing, but sometimes it can really elevate
the scene or really just yeah, and if you're working
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with someone that's.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Really electric in alive, Yeah, it's the best. It's my favorite. Yeah.
I feel like that's where.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
Comics are so good when they get like cast in
a movie or a TV shot because they can hit
their lines and then straight away just run.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
It's just kind of a goal like I like to,
Like I like to, you want to bring You want
to obviously fill the role and do the job, but
you want to also bring extra stuff to offer.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Yeah, because we all have so much to offer.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
Yeah, so you want to Yeah, And I mean you
don't want to sit there and try to think of
something funny to like, No, but if something comes to
you or if there's something yeah, you know, if there's
like I don't know, food on set and you ask
the art department, You're like, can I eat this in
the scene or whatever, and just add to it, like yeah,
it can make stuff so much richer and also it's
(31:58):
also fun.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Yeah. Any stuff to do makes it feel real and
more truthful. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Yeah, I have to ask ps, how quick is this going?
This is? But I keep looking at No.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
That's why i'll quick is it going? Chatter box?
Speaker 2 (32:13):
You're killing it? I have to ask you.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
Yeah, well you.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
Won't be cutting that out yea. So for a young
actor that is maybe like I don't know if I train,
I don't know how to get an agent. What should
I do do I feel my own show real like
for someone green that wants to work as an actor
or wants to work in the industry, because I do
(32:41):
think there is a bit of a gap between the
training and the business side. But there is a business
side to this gap. It's like it's like a whole.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
It's like a it's a completely different thing, like navigating
a career with like you know, you got to remember
all these people you work. It's your agent's casting agents, directors,
the crew, like the costume designers, make up everyone.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
It's like they're people.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
They're like people that work really hard and have made
heaps of sacrifices to do what they do. And you know,
it's a real part of being an actor is also
like being part of a team and like making you know,
we're all problem solving one thing. When you're making a
movie or a TV show, you're all working together to
like work on one thing.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
And you've got to remember it's not all about you.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
And I think sometimes drama school, of course, because you're
focusing on acting, it can you can kind of have
blinkers on and you can feel like it's.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
All about you and it's one piece.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
Yeah, Like I was working with an actress one and
the boom operator. You know that I have the big
microphone on the stick. You know. We were shooting and
I think it was a d or someone on set
was like, oh, we've got boom shadow. Yeah, it's when
you know THEO makes shadow. And the actress I was
working with, she goes boob shadow and she was like
(34:07):
though she thought her booms shadow. Man.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
It was funny and I was bless you. I love
you so much.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
But it's that thing of like you, just as the actor,
you just think everything is about you. I think when
every every conversation they're talking about you, or the directors
like we need to go again, and no one tells
you why you think it's all about you when it's
like it's most of the time it's not.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
Yeah, it's actually not.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
It's like we're all everyone's got little job that they're
focusing on, whether it's pulling focus on the lens of
the camera or whatever. I've totally digressed though that. What
was a question I love as for a younger.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
Yeah, but I love that as well, like not make
it too much about you, like just go in, stay present,
you know, do your job.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
And also respect everyone else's job because you're not more
important than in anyone and it we're so important, Like
you can do an amazing job.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
But if this sounds bad, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 (34:59):
If the if you've got a piece of hair like
eye doesn't matter, like like you can't use that take.
So there's everyone's job is so important. But if you
if someone's like, what's the advice to someone getting it
like a young and or when I say young and
just like someone that's like, Oh, I think I want
to do this thing, but it's really scary and daunting.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
Just just do it. Just do it.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
Like I think there's so many talented, amazing people in
the world that we don't get to see what they
have to offer because they're scared and they're waiting till
they're ready or waiting till they're perfect. And it's like
we're never going to be perfect. Yeah, like it's the
imperfect world. Just just just yeah. Like in if it's studying,
(35:44):
or if it's you know, creating your own show cast
profile and submitting to jobs on your own, or if
it's reaching out to agents, or if it's writing a
show for fringe festival, or like doing amateur theater just
like you know, I think, yes, you can learn from studying,
but you also learn from being in the world and
putting stuff out there.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
Or if you want to write, write.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
Something like I feel like so many people like I
just want to write, and I'm like, okay, well right,
And it might be the basis ships they say. The
first one always is yeah, but then you've got something
to like work with, you know.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
It's like it's really hard.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
You can't put anything out there if you don't have
anything to put out there.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
And I really believe that we've all got something to offer.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
So and every time, like I think of stuff, the
first stuff I made or the first jobs I did,
I'm like, they're pretty crap.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
But they get better and I know I'll get better
in future. I look back on stuff I'm doing and be.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
Like, oh, but but it's like you just grow and
like evolve, and yeah, I think sometimes yeah, don't don't
be a perfectionist.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
That would be my advice.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
And just also, you know you will if you study,
you'll find more versatility as an actor or an artist.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
But it doesn't mean that you can't play character. Now
you can just play someone that's quite similar to you.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
Yeah, the cool thing about studying is it puts you
straight into a community of like minded creatively.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
That is so that's a really you need to find
people that respect and encourage you to do that. Yeah,
I think studying acting is so great. Or joining a
theater company. Yeah, or like I had a it was
like a book club, but it was like a script
club and each week we'd read a play and I
did it for like two years.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
Like stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (37:27):
It's like, you want to find people that care about
what you do as much as you do. And I think,
particularly in Australia, like talking about tap poppy syndrome and stuff,
I think it's easy to feel like it's this like
flippant silly thing, particularly just anything artistic, any artistic pursuit.
And I think it's important to be around people that
(37:50):
see the value in art and you as a little actor.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
Oh my goodness, friend, I could talk to you all
day long. We are we are there.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
I'm going to do a hot seat with you though. Okay,
I'm going to drink my coffee drink. I feel like
I had boogers in my nose.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
But I'm totally keeping all of this in. So, first
of all. Thank you for being here today. You're flip
and wonderful. My pleasure.
Speaker 1 (38:13):
Thanks for having you.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
That's a wrap on another episode of Fearlessly Failing. As always,
thank you to our guests and let's continue the conversation
on Instagram. I'm at Yamo Lullaberry.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
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Speaker 2 (38:32):
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