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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to Fearlessly Failing hot Seat. In this app, I
fire rapid questions at one of our fearlessly failing guests. Ps,
I'm gonna be answering you. I'm not so good at
the rapid part. I get too intrigued by the awesome answers.
Now a new app is going to drop every Wednesday,
so enjoy this shortest style episode of fearlessly Failing Hot Seat.
(00:28):
Welcome to the hot seat. What is your full name,
my friend?
Speaker 2 (00:30):
My full name is Jenny Valentish.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Beautiful sweet or savory?
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Savory?
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Do you have a favorite meal?
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Yes, chicken tigering curry.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Yum, Yeah, that sounds real good. We are living our
late at the moment, but there's this tigreen curry we
love from Byron Bay, like the paste, and so we
get mates to send it to us with coffee. But
I love that lucks. It feels very lucks. Actually, I'm
not gonna lie. Do you have a favorite city?
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Oh jeez, oh god, maybe Seattle. I have very fond
memories of going to when I was twenty, which is
kind of at the peak of Seattle them.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Oh I like that, yeah, yeah, yeah, I've never been.
It's gone on the list.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Yeah, bit wet.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
That's all right with Melves Right now, I feel like
I stopped. Do you have a favorite nature spot?
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Yes? I live on the morning from Peninsula down the
pointy ends of Saint Andrew's Beach and be surrounded by
wild ocean beaches, highly dangerous, so I don't swimming them,
especially being English. But incredible. Still, these cliff walks every
day and it takes five minutes to get there. I
cannot believe my luck, especially coming from Slough in England.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
I've heard you make a joke about Slough if you
want to know what Slough's like now, but you haven't
been since the seventies, or isn't.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
It is Jimmy Carr, Yes, he's from Slough. Yeah, so
if you want to know what Slough was like in
the seventies, go there now.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Do you have a fear.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Yeah, yeah, death, either either my partner's death or a
way in which I might die, like they're not good
generally speaking. He's way, So I guess it's like it's
not like I've you know, it's not like I'm that old.
I'm fifty, but I feel like it's more and more
(02:21):
on my mind. I guess because my dad died and
more and more people around you die. Yeah, so my
mind's a lot.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
It's the most common thing people say the same question. Yeah, yeah,
well coming for all of us, and we don't know how,
when or what. You know.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Yeah, so many fears about my partner dying. We did
a whole podcast episode on it. And he doesn't feel
that back. He just he just assumes he'll die first
so he doesn't have to worry about it.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
I would say my partner would say the exact same thing.
I could absolutely agree.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Absolutely cop out.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
What's your favorite thing about yourself? Oh God, I feel
that's a hard question to ask a brit isn't it.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, because we're very self defrecating. Yeah.
I kind of really like my awkwardness, which is funny
because it used to cause me a lot of anguish,
but I think it's turned me into hate the word quirky,
but like a quirky individual where people think, hm, she
looks interesting.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
I also think, to me, you felt very real. Yeah,
and so I feel like if awkwardness is part of
your realness then yeah, yeah, so be it?
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Yeah, so be it.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
I like that.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Do you have a pet peeve people walking too slowly
in front of me big in londoner really oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Yeah, yeah, no, no, that's fair. I would totally agree
with that one. Do you have a non negotiable.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
For a relationship?
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Can be for a relationship, it can be as a writer,
can be can be for mental health.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
God, uh, that's so broad.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Man, it's so broad. Well, mine will be therapy, okay, yeah, yeah,
that like gym for the mind.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Yeah yeah, okay, Well, fitness is my non negotiable. So
even when I've been grieving or when I'm traveling, it's like,
I know, for my mental health in the long run,
I've got to keep going to the gym, so I'm
always looking ahead and finding out where they are and
I'm traveling and that kind of stuff. And for you, weightlifting,
(04:21):
would you say, yeah, these says it's weightlifting?
Speaker 1 (04:24):
How good is it?
Speaker 2 (04:24):
It's great? I love kettlebell Actually yeah yeah, I just
had a class this morning, and but he really puts
us for our paces. He looks like a Special Forces guy,
muscles and muscles and muscles, and he really makes us
just push it.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
I love I always envision like if I'm going to
do weights training I'd like to think that a Special
Forces person is my teacher, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Even if there isn't one there, I imagine there's one there.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
And you're in one of those like training camp in
Australia or something. Have you watched the tea I'm totally digressing.
Have you watched the TV show lions Oh? Watch it.
It's a special Forces all women and Zoe san Sandula
I don't know how to say her last name is
the head of the Lionesses, and she's badass.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Would I want to be her?
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Yeah? She's fit af They're all like in their off time,
like all training, they're all fit, like strong powerhouse women.
It is like flipping on and they're like saving the world.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Yeah. Now I follow so many strong women on Instagram.
It's just that's my homework through it. No, but this
is really cook. It's all about like geo political stuff.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Going on in America. But then they're going in and
like really stopping bad stuff happening. But they're badass life. Yes, Lioness,
I feel like you're going to be like Lola. You've
changed the game for me. I love it. What advice
would you have someone that's listening to this that might
be an aspiring author, writer, author for someone that's just
(05:53):
got an idea, but maybe it's a little bit scared
to try it out.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
I am all about structure, and as you know chat before,
but I'm really about structures. So try and think how
would this unravel like if it's going to be book length,
what might the chapters look like? What are my themes
going to be? Really try and plot out as much
(06:21):
as you can. Have fun doing that, like use index
cards or use driven her or a notebook, and just
have these signposts for yourself so you know where things
are going to go before you get started. You can
fly by the seat of your pants. Some people do
that their pants.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Is oh no, I'm your much more.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Yeah. Otherwise you can waste a lot of time sort
of going down a lot of rose. It is good, though,
to get things out of your system first, Like if
you're writing about something quite painful, you just get everything down.
They call it the vomit draft.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
I've got a friend that when she writes painful chapters,
she wears sunglasses and it feels like a protects her.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Okase she's kind of slightly dissociated, isn't.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
That fascinating you actually a really good bass And then
another advice question, because you're so good at answering these
what advice you've obviously just written a book about it.
For an introvert going to a party and they're just
like in the car, is there any like quick thing
that they can do they're on their way there? Or
(07:22):
they're going to a social event where the stakes feel
really high and everyone's a someone, or you know, everyone
feels like someone. What advice do you have?
Speaker 2 (07:31):
You might try and gamify it for yourself, like just
give yourself the task of finding out something really interesting
about anyone that you're talking to that will take you
out of oh what are they thinking about me? And
make you listen more to what they're saying. And also
hopefully you'll have an inquisitive smile on your face, just
(07:51):
always encouraging for the other person.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
I like the way you said gamify it as well,
because it makes it fun.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Yeah, and give you a mission.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Oh oh yes, a missions. Final question my friend actually too,
because you've got a book, You've got books, so I
have to ask too. So I always have to ask
authors if they have a favorite book. Fiction, non fiction
doesn't matter. Holy Are you a fiction reader or do
you sit more?
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Yes, but I tend to read more nonfiction because it
feels like then it's sort of homework.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
As well, of course it's working at the same time.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Oh my god. Look, it would probably be one of
John Ronson's books. He is a British journalist who also
a podcaster. But he just sort of embeds with weird
people and gets to know them and yeah, frodster. But
he's got a very kind of naive demeanor, so people
(08:44):
just sort of don't take him seriously enough to worry
about what he's going to on earth. So any of
his books are fascinating. He did one called them The
Men w Hysteric Goats, which was about weird cia. Oh wow,
mind's control psychic stuff. But maybe that one.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
That sounds great? And then do yet this is your
final one? Do you have a hidden talent.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Apart from being able to burp on call?
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Oh my god, I can't burp really, I can't, Like
I reckon I birth one?
Speaker 2 (09:22):
See't you had a really fuzzy drink? Why? I'm jogged?
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Like if if one comes, it comes, but like it
happens once.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Oh god, I suppose I really love. I love teaching,
and I love sort of impassing information to people, and
like I can always remember in my head thing, especially
around writing, that people have told me, whether it would
be my mum or the first publisher I worked for,
because I used to work for book company book publishers,
(09:55):
and I can remember key things in my heads. Maybe
they've given me a little idiom, something that rhymes, or
just a little raw and so I love being able
to pass that kind of stuff on. You.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Can you chuck us one to close the pod? I'm
really throwing you on, throwing you curly ones, aren't I?
Speaker 2 (10:14):
I actually came up with one of my own.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Okay, yeah, let's go.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Okay. So people often can't remember the word cannon. Two meanings, right.
So there's a weapon and like a cannon of work,
and it's really hard to remember which is which. So
if you think about when it's got a double N,
it's like having two wheels of a cannon.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Got it? Love it?
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Oh? I love it a little thing. Oh that's casey
ever needs to write that down somewhere.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
No, I love it. Thank you You've helped me and
you've taught me so much today, and thank you so
much for bearing with me and making the pod happen
my pleasure.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Thank you
Welcome to Fearlessly Failing hot Seat. In this app, I
fire rapid questions at one of our fearlessly failing guests. Ps,
I'm gonna be answering you. I'm not so good at
the rapid part. I get too intrigued by the awesome answers.
Now a new app is going to drop every Wednesday,
so enjoy this shortest style episode of fearlessly Failing Hot Seat.
(00:28):
Welcome to the hot seat. What is your full name,
my friend?
Speaker 2 (00:30):
My full name is Jenny Valentish.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Beautiful sweet or savory?
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Savory?
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Do you have a favorite meal?
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Yes, chicken tigering curry.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Yum, Yeah, that sounds real good. We are living our
late at the moment, but there's this tigreen curry we
love from Byron Bay, like the paste, and so we
get mates to send it to us with coffee. But
I love that lucks. It feels very lucks. Actually, I'm
not gonna lie. Do you have a favorite city?
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Oh jeez, oh god, maybe Seattle. I have very fond
memories of going to when I was twenty, which is
kind of at the peak of Seattle them.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Oh I like that, yeah, yeah, yeah, I've never been.
It's gone on the list.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Yeah, bit wet.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
That's all right with Melves Right now, I feel like
I stopped. Do you have a favorite nature spot?
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Yes? I live on the morning from Peninsula down the
pointy ends of Saint Andrew's Beach and be surrounded by
wild ocean beaches, highly dangerous, so I don't swimming them,
especially being English. But incredible. Still, these cliff walks every
day and it takes five minutes to get there. I
cannot believe my luck, especially coming from Slough in England.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
I've heard you make a joke about Slough if you
want to know what Slough's like now, but you haven't
been since the seventies, or isn't.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
It is Jimmy Carr, Yes, he's from Slough. Yeah, so
if you want to know what Slough was like in
the seventies, go there now.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Do you have a fear.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Yeah, yeah, death, either either my partner's death or a
way in which I might die, like they're not good
generally speaking. He's way, So I guess it's like it's
not like I've you know, it's not like I'm that old.
I'm fifty, but I feel like it's more and more
(02:21):
on my mind. I guess because my dad died and
more and more people around you die. Yeah, so my
mind's a lot.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
It's the most common thing people say the same question. Yeah, yeah,
well coming for all of us, and we don't know how,
when or what. You know.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Yeah, so many fears about my partner dying. We did
a whole podcast episode on it. And he doesn't feel
that back. He just he just assumes he'll die first
so he doesn't have to worry about it.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
I would say my partner would say the exact same thing.
I could absolutely agree.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Absolutely cop out.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
What's your favorite thing about yourself? Oh God, I feel
that's a hard question to ask a brit isn't it.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, because we're very self defrecating. Yeah.
I kind of really like my awkwardness, which is funny
because it used to cause me a lot of anguish,
but I think it's turned me into hate the word quirky,
but like a quirky individual where people think, hm, she
looks interesting.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
I also think, to me, you felt very real. Yeah,
and so I feel like if awkwardness is part of
your realness then yeah, yeah, so be it?
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Yeah, so be it.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
I like that.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Do you have a pet peeve people walking too slowly
in front of me big in londoner really oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Yeah, yeah, no, no, that's fair. I would totally agree
with that one. Do you have a non negotiable.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
For a relationship?
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Can be for a relationship, it can be as a writer,
can be can be for mental health.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
God, uh, that's so broad.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Man, it's so broad. Well, mine will be therapy, okay, yeah, yeah,
that like gym for the mind.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Yeah yeah, okay, Well, fitness is my non negotiable. So
even when I've been grieving or when I'm traveling, it's like,
I know, for my mental health in the long run,
I've got to keep going to the gym, so I'm
always looking ahead and finding out where they are and
I'm traveling and that kind of stuff. And for you, weightlifting,
(04:21):
would you say, yeah, these says it's weightlifting?
Speaker 1 (04:24):
How good is it?
Speaker 2 (04:24):
It's great? I love kettlebell Actually yeah yeah, I just
had a class this morning, and but he really puts
us for our paces. He looks like a Special Forces guy,
muscles and muscles and muscles, and he really makes us
just push it.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
I love I always envision like if I'm going to
do weights training I'd like to think that a Special
Forces person is my teacher, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Even if there isn't one there, I imagine there's one there.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
And you're in one of those like training camp in
Australia or something. Have you watched the tea I'm totally digressing.
Have you watched the TV show lions Oh? Watch it.
It's a special Forces all women and Zoe san Sandula
I don't know how to say her last name is
the head of the Lionesses, and she's badass.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Would I want to be her?
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Yeah? She's fit af They're all like in their off time,
like all training, they're all fit, like strong powerhouse women.
It is like flipping on and they're like saving the world.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Yeah. Now I follow so many strong women on Instagram.
It's just that's my homework through it. No, but this
is really cook. It's all about like geo political stuff.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Going on in America. But then they're going in and
like really stopping bad stuff happening. But they're badass life. Yes, Lioness,
I feel like you're going to be like Lola. You've
changed the game for me. I love it. What advice
would you have someone that's listening to this that might
be an aspiring author, writer, author for someone that's just
(05:53):
got an idea, but maybe it's a little bit scared
to try it out.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
I am all about structure, and as you know chat before,
but I'm really about structures. So try and think how
would this unravel like if it's going to be book length,
what might the chapters look like? What are my themes
going to be? Really try and plot out as much
(06:21):
as you can. Have fun doing that, like use index
cards or use driven her or a notebook, and just
have these signposts for yourself so you know where things
are going to go before you get started. You can
fly by the seat of your pants. Some people do
that their pants.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Is oh no, I'm your much more.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Yeah. Otherwise you can waste a lot of time sort
of going down a lot of rose. It is good, though,
to get things out of your system first, Like if
you're writing about something quite painful, you just get everything down.
They call it the vomit draft.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
I've got a friend that when she writes painful chapters,
she wears sunglasses and it feels like a protects her.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Okase she's kind of slightly dissociated, isn't.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
That fascinating you actually a really good bass And then
another advice question, because you're so good at answering these
what advice you've obviously just written a book about it.
For an introvert going to a party and they're just
like in the car, is there any like quick thing
that they can do they're on their way there? Or
(07:22):
they're going to a social event where the stakes feel
really high and everyone's a someone, or you know, everyone
feels like someone. What advice do you have?
Speaker 2 (07:31):
You might try and gamify it for yourself, like just
give yourself the task of finding out something really interesting
about anyone that you're talking to that will take you
out of oh what are they thinking about me? And
make you listen more to what they're saying. And also
hopefully you'll have an inquisitive smile on your face, just
(07:51):
always encouraging for the other person.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
I like the way you said gamify it as well,
because it makes it fun.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Yeah, and give you a mission.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Oh oh yes, a missions. Final question my friend actually too,
because you've got a book, You've got books, so I
have to ask too. So I always have to ask
authors if they have a favorite book. Fiction, non fiction
doesn't matter. Holy Are you a fiction reader or do
you sit more?
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Yes, but I tend to read more nonfiction because it
feels like then it's sort of homework.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
As well, of course it's working at the same time.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Oh my god. Look, it would probably be one of
John Ronson's books. He is a British journalist who also
a podcaster. But he just sort of embeds with weird
people and gets to know them and yeah, frodster. But
he's got a very kind of naive demeanor, so people
(08:44):
just sort of don't take him seriously enough to worry
about what he's going to on earth. So any of
his books are fascinating. He did one called them The
Men w Hysteric Goats, which was about weird cia. Oh wow,
mind's control psychic stuff. But maybe that one.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
That sounds great? And then do yet this is your
final one? Do you have a hidden talent.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Apart from being able to burp on call?
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Oh my god, I can't burp really, I can't, Like
I reckon I birth one?
Speaker 2 (09:22):
See't you had a really fuzzy drink? Why? I'm jogged?
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Like if if one comes, it comes, but like it
happens once.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Oh god, I suppose I really love. I love teaching,
and I love sort of impassing information to people, and
like I can always remember in my head thing, especially
around writing, that people have told me, whether it would
be my mum or the first publisher I worked for,
because I used to work for book company book publishers,
(09:55):
and I can remember key things in my heads. Maybe
they've given me a little idiom, something that rhymes, or
just a little raw and so I love being able
to pass that kind of stuff on. You.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Can you chuck us one to close the pod? I'm
really throwing you on, throwing you curly ones, aren't I?
Speaker 2 (10:14):
I actually came up with one of my own.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Okay, yeah, let's go.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Okay. So people often can't remember the word cannon. Two meanings, right.
So there's a weapon and like a cannon of work,
and it's really hard to remember which is which. So
if you think about when it's got a double N,
it's like having two wheels of a cannon.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Got it? Love it?
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Oh? I love it a little thing. Oh that's casey
ever needs to write that down somewhere.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
No, I love it. Thank you You've helped me and
you've taught me so much today, and thank you so
much for bearing with me and making the pod happen
my pleasure.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Thank you
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