July 6, 2025 • 53 mins
I went into this podcast hoping to make a friend in Mitch, he was such a joy to research and wait for it, he has the exact same career dream as me! We both want to be late night talk show hosts!
Mitch is a celebrated radio host, pod honest, comedian, actor and TV presenter. He's an all round entertainer. Mitch is open, honest, funny and one of those people you immediately want to become friends with.
We talked about his radio career, the highs and the lows. Mitch was let go from ARN late last year and he talked about the shock and sadness of that experience. But he also talked about some of the gifts, in that it's helping him look at his other big scary goals.
His brilliant theatre and improv training in America and we dreamed up some pretty exciting things for his future. Mitch is one to watch, having already had such a celebrated career in radio, I know this is just the beginning. You heard it here first, he'll be doing more stand up and acting before we know it.
Mitch, keep going my friend, you are absolutely wonderful and most importantly, know that you are one talented entertainer!
This ep is for anyone with a creative dream.
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Lola
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Get a I'm Lola Berry, nutritionist, author, actor, TV presenter,
and professional oversharer. This podcast is all about celebrating failure
because I believe it's a chance for us to learn,
grow and face our blind spots. Each week, I'll interview
a different guest about their highs as well as their lows,
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all in a bid to inspire us to feariously fail. Hello, friends,
welcome to your pod. Your interviewp with Mitch Jury. He's
a celebrated radio host, pod host, comedian, actor, TV presenter,
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literally does it all in this chart.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
He's really honest.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
He will just share really openly the highs and lows
of his career, some of which has been kind of public.
And he has this incredible work ethic that I think
any creative if you listen to this, I think you're
gonna find it really inspiring because I think that often
we see the highlight reel, we see the wins, we
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don't often see the or hear about the slog and
how tough and how long it can take to kind
of like make your dreams come true. So Mitch chairs
really openly and honestly, and I said this at the.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
End of our chat.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
I was like, can we please be friends? And he's
just an effing legend. So you, the listener, I hope
you love this chat. I hope you get something out
of this.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Mitch. You flipping wonderful.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
I cannot wait to see you next time I'm in Australia. Also,
please come and visit me in LA I would absolutely
love that. And yes, I am absolutely adopting you as
my friend, against maybe your will. Everyone else, go listen, enjoy,
share it with your mates.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
You get a laugh out of this.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Mitch.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
You're wonderful. Mitch Drue, welcome to the pud Well A
very great to be here. Oh my goodness.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
So I'm going to put a bit of pressure on
you straight out of the gate, Halfair. I have this
thing when I interview people, like if I think I
might be friends with them after yeah, oh no no.
But I was saying this to the beautiful Claire who's
my pod manager, and I was like, I have a
feeling we might become friends after this.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
I think so too. I thought the exact same thing
as soon as I we gave me gifts too. You
butter me up with these free your free hot chocolate.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
I love It's my love language, chocolate. I'm a gift giver.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
They are your own products, so you know, I'm deeply
aware of where this is coming from. Blow the dust, honey,
you get me an out of the book, and chocolate
we got to get other.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Guess i'd hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
So to me researching, I'm a bit of a deep diver,
Like I really am, a bit of a do all
the research and then throw it away and just go
wherever the interview goes.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
And for the listener. Handwritten too, which is very is
that rare. I've never seen that in my entire career.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Are you kidding?
Speaker 3 (02:57):
And can you hold it up? I just want to
get it. I want to get a age of your handwriting.
Beautiful handwriting.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Really a bit messy, but it's good.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
It's a window to the personality and the psyche. I think.
So what you googling with one hand, iPad on my lap, well,
a Berry branded hot chocolate in the other hand, and
then what a pen and you're just jotting?
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Is literally for you, I'll because you were such a
joy to research.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Should I say so?
Speaker 1 (03:20):
I'd had my laptop up and I always start I
go a bit backwards.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
I always start with YouTube and.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Then I go podcasts, and then I go like your content,
and then I usually end up with your content last,
like I want to see other people's like pov of
you a bit interesting.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Oh, I like it your back end then front end, yes,
and so then.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
I'm like, oh, have to take notes.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
I have to take handwritten notes, and I keep all
my pod like I'm nearly at seven hundred deps and
I keep all my like I never throw a notebook out.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Yeah, I like that. That's me because I went to
theater school. I've got all my theater school books.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
And I was showing my boyfriend the other day because
we were cleaning out my room, and I'm like, oh
my god, these are my notes. Oh I was about kid.
It's not but I don't do it anymore. So I
admire it. I really wow.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Yeah, I'm all for.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
I'm also I'm so much older than you, so I
think it's also like being an elder millennial.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Which is, oh, you're an elder millennial. I'm thirty nine,
all right, now, well I'm twenty nine, so we have
ten years.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Right, But that's a whole generational.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Per Pishpash couldn't tell, you know, you're a young soul.
I'm an old soul. You know, we're both hot, like
just shit right, But we've got the bowtos going for you know.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
I love that you love. Am I allowed to say?
What salmon sperm.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Sounds like a guy that I was telling you about
on a date before with salmon and I got seven sperm? Yeah? No,
I've had seven sperm in the in the eyes.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Oh my goodness. Sign me.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Okay, So you are a radio host, a comedian, a
TV presenter. So for me, when I see all of
that and I start to like soak up all your content,
I'm like, you're an entertainer.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
You're like a born entertainer.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Is that how you would describe yourself?
Speaker 3 (04:50):
I say, I think, I say performer? Do you Yeah?
Because I've got this real ego complex and this real
humility complex that I'm just starting to unpack that has
been drilled to me from a very young age. Like
two parents that were not creatives, very successful, but not creatives,
and then they had this little creative son who was,
you know, getting small achievements as a kid school captain
and you know, as the bigger things you can achieve
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as a kid, but it was drilled into me from
such a young age like you must be humble, Like
we don't want this kid that thinks he's better than
everyone else. And it has seriously made me like it's
kind of pushed me down a little. So I get
very I really don't like announcing or labeling what I
do because I feel yeah, and it's very Australian, very
tall pop.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Yeah yeah yeah. I's like you gotta go back to America.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Yeah, I know, right, I thought about that because god, yeah,
for many reasons. But we can get to that. But yeah,
I struggle with entertainer at steel. I have a visceral
reaction if I say I'm a comedian, i had a
radio show, or I'm an entertainer, or I've got followers.
It really physically even now like recoil really yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
I remember I was an acting class in Melbourne and
their teacher stopped me and she's like, you are not
an actor, you are an entertainer. And I was like, well,
I think that's a compliment. Yes, I'll take that as
a win because you and I have the exact.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Same mega dream.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Oh really yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
So one of it's like Steve Colbert is like my
north Star.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Yes, and I know who I sat next to it
Sushi Brentwood.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Oh stop that sushi with his wife, his son. He's
so tall, so.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Tall. Wait what sushi restaurant?
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Sugar Fish?
Speaker 3 (06:28):
He talks about it on his podcast. I've always thought,
next time I'm in La, I'm going sugar Fish packed.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
It was packed and there was only one table, and
my friend and I sat next to him. We just
ordered a few sakis to kind of like and we
had a commoners, full blown combo with him.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Oh I love it so much as great right.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
In kind as anything, like so incredible, so sweet. And
my friend had like I think she had a couple
more sakis than me, and she's like, Lola was just
on a podcast and I was like, oh my god,
Like fully was like pitchy meter kind of no, Brian, how.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Did you take it?
Speaker 1 (06:59):
He's he's so lovely, Like he was like, oh my god,
tell me about He had also interviewed her husband, so,
who's a massive actor, and so we had like we
were kind of like in but I was like, oh,
I'll get in any old way. Wow, I love that
song so kind so had time of day for us,
like it was.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
It was one of those.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
So LA is a really brutal place sometimes career wise,
and then you have those days where you're just like,
oh no, it's okay. And I'd just gone from interviewing
Anthey Lapalia to having dinner next to Conan O'Brien all
in the one night. Wow yeah, and I was like, Okay,
alas amazing. This is where I'm so excited to talk
to you because you and I have the same mega
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dream and I can totally see you doing this by
the way, You're so there. And I also think I
agree with you, like let's bring back epic late night
talk shows here in Australia. I agree that I was
a rogue girl.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
I I wrote a letter to Row when his wife
passed away, and because I remember that and it crushed me,
like that was everyone was watching Kylie on Home and
Away and getting married. I'm like, I'm can't give a shit.
Rove McManus, like, this man is my everything. He was
my Brad Pitt, my Tom And when his wife passed,
I remember they took some time off the show and
then my mom suggested that I write him a letter,
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and I hand wrote him a letter and sent it
to him. And I didn't get a reply, and I
remember I was gutted and Mum sat me down and
she's like, you know, he's lost his wife, and it
was just a yeah, I watching Rove live. I'll still
remember this bit and that he did maybe on his
last show or what maybe the first show, but he
did this bit where he said, if you're watching the
show live now, I want you all to flick your
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lights on. Do you remember this? Yes?
Speaker 2 (08:45):
I remember this.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
And then they had a live feed of Sydney Harbor
and every fucking house went on, off on, everyone was
watching him.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Also, there's something about the magic of that format of
a TV show.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Oh, it's incredible. I love it. I love the grandeur.
And there's a lot to be said about transitioning late
night TV and the chat show into twenty twenty five right,
A lot that needs to change. But I just love
the brass band, I love the host. I loved the monologue.
I love there's something about the old Hollywood desk and
the holding of a pencil and the mug and everything
(09:21):
the suit like, I love the format and it comes
or comes from Rove. So where did it stem for from?
For you? Was it Rove no.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
I mean I always watched Rove, but I like Stick.
When I started acting training, i'd always get put forward
for pilots where I'd like co host lifestyle shows and
they're like, no, you're the nutrition segment girl, and never
get green lit.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
And then I just started.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
I got into acting school that way because I tried
to get into a TV presenting course and they're like, no,
do acting. And I was like, I'd rather the swim
with sharks and they're like, that's a great that's a
great reason do it. And I've never stopped training since
I'm obsessed.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
But I remember in acting school my teacher said, start
what he just said to me, Start watching Steve Colbert.
I know you need to because he does his own
crowd warm up.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Yes, yeah, I've seen. He posts them to TikTok. He
does Q and a's and he posts the videos. I
love it.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
So I'm living in la I go to tap things
all the time. I went to Jennifer Hudson last week.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Oh, I've seen the new age of all these women
the Kelly Clarkson Show, which is so funny to me
that she has a talk show because.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
It love it.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
People love it. But like her interview style is so ridiculous,
and she just talks and talks and talks, but then
she just does what's it with Kylie Oki? You know,
what does she do? What's her segment? Kelly?
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Ok? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Yeah? And people look, but Drew BARRYMA, I mean, look
at all these amazing shows that are.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
Just like, yeah, Wendy Williams back in the day, and
I love Wendy Williams.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
That's probably what I've probably looked a lot, like, watched
a lot of when I'm because I also think I
sit in daytime.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
So well, but I'm here to talk about you.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Oh no, this is so hard for me because, first
of all, can we just say you're seeking twisted because
this studio we're recording in was where I recorded my
podcast for years, I know, and we just finished in
December twenty twenty four and I've not been behind the
mike since. So you've pulled me out of the depths.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Well it suits you, my friends, So I'm glad. I'm
glad that you're back.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
It's I also okay, so hang on, yeah, I know
that we are both like I want to say, like
theater nerds.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Yeah, so you trained in New York. Was it the
Atlantic School.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
Yes, Atlantic Theater Company. Yeah, yeah, so.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Was your When you were younger, You're like, all right,
I'm a theater kid.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
I'm going to go and trade in theater.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
I want to work at like mal Theater Company, Sydney
Theater Company.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Was that kind of the dream?
Speaker 3 (11:30):
Yeah, it was so I when I was a kid.
So I'm nineteen ninety five born, so I coming up.
I was born in Sydney. There was this thing called
the State Drama Company. Yeah, and it was it was
for public schools only. It was like a Department of
Education right thing. And it was the best kids from
drama class because you would have done drama in school,
so did I. Scouts would come out and you'd go
an audition and they'd have a company of twelve to
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thirteen young actors that were the best in the state.
It was the State Drama Company. And I got in
in year ten. They only took seniors year eleven and
year twelve ten and they were like, oh no, he's
he's got something. So I auditioned and then that started
this whole to it to London at the National Theater.
We put on a production to at the National theater.
We went to Hong Kong to it in Hong Kong,
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and then I'm like, oh, I love theater and then
it just that was that was the start of the
love story of being with creatives and you know, rehearsing
and theater games and all that beauty that.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Comes fel you'd nail a theater game.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
I love it. Yeah, it's space jump, is my bitch.
I don't want to zips that, but I mean a
classic I haven't done in a while.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
But honestly, lisstill like I'm so bad at the sports
because I trained in improv as well.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Because I want to talk to you about la yes course,
and was it UCB you trained it?
Speaker 1 (12:43):
I know, I know, I know, I know, but yeah, zipsp.
That would be like our warm up. But I I
find improv training so hard.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
But I did it for the same reason you did.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
I was like, all these talk show hosts have come
through like second s, like there's they've come through like groundlings,
all these amazing.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Schools, and I'm like shift timbers, like I think I
might have funny bones.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
I don't know this, and so I was like, Okay,
I better get into improv school. And like my teacher
would stop me every class, Lola, I can see you
thinking ahead, stop it.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
I can You're in your head, stop it.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Stop at like the fail be okay to fail, fall
flat on your face.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
And I was just like this is not for me.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
But so that is what I fell in love with.
We have a very similar trajectory. Like I was obsessed
with the Second City, which is you know, Steve Carell,
it is Stephen Colbert, It's it's a bunch of comics
that will go in love. I went to Chicago to
see shows at the Second Second City. I was because
I couldn't study there. It just didn't work. But I've
been to Second City, Chicago, I've seen shows. I saw
shows all in New York at U See B. Like
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I was a kid that was in love with all
this stuff and still to this day, I think the
improv study that I did at the Upright Citizens Brigade
Theater in LA was the best.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Oh, you see, so many greats have come out of
you see it. A lot of comedy writers have come
out of UCB. So a part of me is like,
did you did a party? You want want to stay
there and like see what would happen in America because
I know, like your trajectory completely kind of changed when
you got back here at nineteen. But was a party
you Like, no, I'm going to you know, get my
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one and give it a crack over here.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
For sure, that was the plan. So I went to
university in Sydney, University of Wollongong. Great university, but it's
more of a rainforest than it is university. It's just
humid and gorgeous and there's a peacock on campus, and
the peacock in a subway. I could leave here, but
it wasn't for me, like traditional study. It's just not
how my brain works. I'm like very much a creative brain.
So I'm like, no, it's not for me. My parents
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are amazing, and I said, I really think I want
to have a stab for it in America and they said, great,
will help you, let's go. So yeah, moved to New
York at nineteen amazing. I was straight, by the way,
really yeah, dating women? When did you come out twenty three?
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Really?
Speaker 3 (14:48):
Yeah? Yeah? Write that on that notepack. Yeah I didn't know,
Yeah I did at twenty three, So I yeah, I
was sleeping with women, had a girl friend. She had
a house in the Hamptons, but Dad was a French
restauranteur and he was loaded and lived on the Upper
East Side. I was like, I'm living the dream.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
I'm very gossip girl vibes.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
Yeah, and the fact that I knew that reference gay yeah,
the fact that I'm like, I'm in Gossip Girls girlfriend okay, yeah, yeah,
the closet is glass. So I did that and loved
it and did it for like ten months. Yeah, and
ran out of cash, and you know, nineteen, didn't have
much money. I worked so easy to do in America though,
so easy to do is twenty fifteen. So then I'm
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mum and dad, you know bank of Mum and Dad
like I need some help, and they're not loaded by
any means, so they're like, come back, you need to
work for a bit. So I came back and I
had the plan of working for three to four months
and then I jet back over and whatever. And I
came back and the job that I get to earn
cash is on the street team at AARN which is
Kiss FAM in Sydney. And I started at Kiss FM
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and within three weeks I was on air on Kyle
and Jack Yosha, and then within twelve months I had
my own show and I didn't stop.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
That's insane, So like why.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
Jump off that? And we've missed really pivotal information that
I it ties into the row of it all. But
mega broadcast nerd like Hamish and Andy Bow, you know,
loved radio, Fife box, Fiffee and Jewels, Jewels f Linder
you still love listening to. So I loved radio. So
for me, radio was my fallback so to kind of
get an in. I thought this is easier than what
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I was going to do over there, and that yeah stayed.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Oh okay. So you've had such an amazing radio career.
Has there been anything where you're like, oh my god,
pinch me, like that was the best thing ever got?
Speaker 3 (16:28):
Yeah, A lot like the whole thing, the fact that
it even happened, right, like, you know, it just doesn't.
It doesn't happen for a kid that loves radio. It
hasn't happened since Like in Australia, I can't think of
another broadcaster that was on National Metro Radio that started
as a radio nerd, which saddens me because I got
to have that trajectory. I feel like that's why it
should be Yeah, which should and that look at I
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mean Carl Sanderlance, you know, he had that same trajectory. Yeah,
Merrick Watts was a similar trajectory. Whipper from Fitzen Whipper.
They all had that radio boy to you know, star
radio host trajectory. It just doesn't happen these days. But
I wouldn't change it for the world. Like I love
live live broadcast. Yeah, like everything to me, and it's
such a good school, like it's it taught me everything.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Be kine too.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Anytime I interview someone that's a comic and in radio,
I'm like, well, they're going to speak in soundbites, like
I have to prepare.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
My sorry, even I try to cock myself. You hear
my pace change because I'm like, fuck, I'm very on
air right now. And then I go get too cerebral
and who am I trying to fucking be?
Speaker 2 (17:29):
And then it bring it all on?
Speaker 1 (17:33):
I can you and this is gonna I'm my brain
is a pinball machine. I'm sure you can tell that already.
Can you tell me? Like this was early I think
this was early days. Yeah, the cash cop Oh god,
and did you have to like literally essentially audition in
the pit and just start walking around like yeah, yes,
literally a rooster.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
So nineteen year old Mitch had just come back from
UCB and there was never any like cocking ins or
arrogance because like whip both my parents like you're not anyone.
So it came came back, was on the street team
giving out cancer coke bags, chips and driving the vans amazing.
Then you know, I'm just me and someone in the
business said, oh, mitches on, he's new is quite funny.
(18:15):
The way that content works is we have this segment idea,
but we don't know how it works. But Channel seven
Sunrise have the cash cow. So then Kiss were like,
we want the cash cock. Funny, you know it works.
So they needed a cash cock, they needed a mascot
and they're like that new kid's funny. Obviously, don't have
to pay me anything. I'm a kid. So they're like
easy and he's fat, that's funny, you know the visual gag. No,
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that's how they work. Ye, it's like, oh, he's jubby,
it's great. So I get a message from my manager
and the marketing team going, oh, the head of Kiss
wants to meet you. Head on up after the Kyle
and Jackie Oh show. Tomorrow at nine and thinking okay,
and I didn't know, like, you know, were kings of
a radio station. I didn't know who this boss was.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Yeah yeah, big big bus, big.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
Boss who would later be my boss for my whole career.
And Kyle and Jackie are So I walk up the stairs.
I go to the studio, which I'd never been to before,
and Kyle Jackie is sitting there after the show DBS,
sitting there and he just looks at me and he goes,
I hear you pretty funny. You think you're pretty funny?
And I go, oh, you know, yeah, well you know
I studied improv and you're thinking it's like an audition already, Yeah,
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study improv, you see b And he's like, can you
be a rooster? Cuts me off, can be a rooster?
And I'm like, like a chick? Like a chicken. He's like, yeah,
like a chicken, Ben Chicken. And then in front of
Kyle Jackie, all the other team by the way working
like sitting on the computers working. This is a normal
day for them. So I just go, sure, how can
be chicken? So I squat onto my like my legs
(19:38):
squat down and just walk around the room bucking like
a chicken, and they think it's the funniest thing in
the world. They're dying laughing, and then they pivot talk
about whatever's happening on the show the next day, and
I just stay there like half squatted, like do I
go now? And the head of marketing was there with me.
It's just like you just can't. So I have to
go get up and we go walk off. And then
I got a call that day saying you're a cash cock.
(20:00):
You start next Monday. You're on air. You were the
cash cop. That's how it works, which mind you, no prep,
no producer briefing. It was a miscommunication. They thought Mitch
had it. I thought they had it. So I turn
up at five am. I'm outside some woman's house in Blacktown,
dressed as a giant rooster with a thousand dollars strapped
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to my chest like a fucking suicide bomber, saying the
most insane isis maybe you've ever seen in your life.
And I'm strapped and I have a phone, and the
producer crosses to me, the show's live, and you know
a classic producer mind Mitch, Honey, you're on. You're on
after this song three minutes. What do you got for us?
And I had nothing, like genuinely nothing, because I thought
it's a bigger show in the world. That prep me,
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brief me, I'll be told what to do. And you
could just hear the pit like she she was livered
and she goes hone. You got to you got to
give us something, babe. You got to think on your feed.
And it was that uc B training and it was
just a Nate and you know, I'm I think I'm
a rooster. What does a rooster sound like? So I
was in Blacktown, so came out of the song It's
time with the cash coock. You know, chicken dance plays
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and in the morning, I mean black Town. They loved
it and early early in the morning to get the cock.
Don't you think like it just works?
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (21:11):
I did it for a year for four years.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Oh my goodness. Yeah, Oh you're amazing stupid.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
Ended up in hospital three times as.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
The cashcock because you got tackled.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
Well that was the whole premise. You get tackled to
the ground. Yeah, and whoever gets you first gets the cash.
And it became this cult Sydney icon, right, and people
there would be like hundreds of people chasing me to
the ground. Men would drive off the highway in there
in their highluxes and chase me into parks. There was
one where it got so popular and the prize was
fifty grand. Something stupid strapped to me and they worked
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out what car I was in. It was like a
higher car, but someone saw me and it was spotted
and I couldn't get out of the car. It was
like a zombie movie, all these these listeners in the
western sidur of the Sydney banging on the window. Yeah,
and you couldn't. It was like Princess Diana. I couldn't
get out of the car dressed as his chicken.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
I like, I feel like as well that show would
feel really high stakes as well, like best Shot, like biggest,
like like huge team like and it's just like you're
on and it's so fascinating the way that their producers like,
you're on, give me something, think on your feet. It
is scary when you're in those like high stake worlds,
but it's really good as well because you can kind
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of like course correct really quickly in the moment, and
it's such a good learning and it's such a great way.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
To cut your tea will make a choice and commit
to it, right, Yeah, which is kind of what improv is,
you know, so you know the best we kind of
skipped over my improv, but the best thing I ever
learned improv. Yeah, and in my comedy training, which I
live by to this day. Like I don't have many mantras,
but when I'm kind of like lost or what's fucking funny?
These days, I always think, and I learned at you see,
b if if that's true, what else is true? Like
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if I'm a giant chicken that has a speech impediment,
and that's like, if that's true in this whole world,
then what else can be true? You know? What's the
next level on that? You know? Wow? So it's just
always next level.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
So exactly.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Yeah. Yeah, So if you're in a situation you go, well,
this is funny. It's getting laughs, And if that's true
in this dumb, made up world, then put a hat
on a hat? What else can be true? That's funny?
So I just kind of live by that, and it's
I apply that to everything.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
Oh I love it you act as well, don't you?
Speaker 3 (23:15):
Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (23:16):
What how like?
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Because that feels like such a different beast to like
when you're behind a mic or you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
Yeah, well, I mean to be honest, like acting was
like the dream, the dream. And it was from eighteen
to like twenty three that I was acting. I was
doing productions. I did shows at the atyp yeah, like
to it to the National Theater, but that stopped that,
or when I did radio. I didn't do any any
acting at all, didn't do any acting classes. It kind
of dropped off.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
I gotta say, you suit the actor's red carpet.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
Oh yes, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
But I've been like, does it inspire you, like being
up there and seeing all these like incredible artists being celebrated.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
It does, yet does Yeah? And I'm a jealous person,
You're jealous?
Speaker 1 (23:56):
No, no, no, no, I'll see someone and I'll be like, oh,
I want to be there, Like I want to be there.
But I also know, like, and this is I'm a
decade older than you.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
No one is you.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
There's no other Mitch out there, right, So like what
you as an actor, like what you would bring to
a role would be you and I could read the
same script and brain no opposite.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Things to the world.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
And I think like, as an actor, as a radio host,
as a podcast, as a presenter, as a I see
Ash London's during a book next, and you're like, m
seeing and hosting the whole thing, Like that's a whole
different skill set, but like, no one can do it
the way you're going to do it.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
I know, but it's I mean, comparison is the thief
of joy. I know that, but I still fucking compare.
It always steals my fucking joy, you know.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Like I my acting coach in La always says comparison
is cancer for actresses. And she's like, you can't ever
and she's like, you've got to remember your life can
change overnight as an actor.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
Yeah, I'm one of those people that needs to face
a lesson to learn it. Like I feel totally I
have to. Like I only learned that going through a
really bad breakup and I was just like comparing. I
knew my ex was getting with all these men, and
I'm like it makes myself mad, like cheated on and
all that. Yeah, And I just was being I was
driving myself insane thinking about him with other people. Yeah,
and then I had a friend just be like, Babe,
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comparison it's like the thief of joy, you steal your
life And I'm like, you're so right, But I wouldn't unless.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
I had that experience you learn from. It wouldn't make
sense to.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
Me on one of those idiots I have to ask.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
So I just love your brain, like I am. I
feel like I get to nerd out with you right now.
But like if you and I right now could look
into a crystal ball, what would you want to be like?
And you could have any because I feel like you
are in a career where you wear many hats, like
a lot of creatives. Like I would say I'm similar
in that way, but like what would it be like?
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Would you write a book? Would you be acting?
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Would you be like obviously late night talk show hosting
is the ultimate, but the beauty of that is you
can age into it, like do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (25:53):
Like that's something you can do like fifty sixties, you
know what I mean? It's so fun to like and
it be and there.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
Yeah, it's a good question. I don't know. I want
to I want to do it all. I really want
to do standout so it but can we can you
therapize me because I'm so terrified of doing it. I've
done it and I and I did so well. We
sold it. I toured with two of my best friends,
Laura Burna and Britney Hockley. Yeah, and I had a
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radio show with her from Life on Cut.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
I feel like I watched all this unfold on and stuff.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
Yes, yes you would have. And they toured their live
show and they asked me to open with twenty minutes
to stand up. And I'd never done it before, but
I studied the theater and done comedy, and you know,
I was like, I can do this, so wrote A said,
and it was great. I was like sold out State Theater,
sold out Pali Theater.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
Like it was huge.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
Yeah, And I was like, oh, I want to do it.
But then the way my brain works is like, you're
not good. It's not going to work, not funny, you
won't sell tickets. They're there for the girls. Like I
really struggle with that a lot, even in this period
of my life where I've got quite a bit of
free time and I'm not doing a daily radio show
or two daily radio shows. I have a concept for
a show, I've got a title, i've got the material,
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but my brain's like, no one's gonna come.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
You'll be oh no, okay, so I just before you
walked in this room, I interviewed. I'm pretty sure she's
the biggest author in Australia.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Her name's Canda's Fault.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
She's a crime fiction, all that two hundred projection letters
and now she's like Ridley Scott just signed the right
like producing her make her recent book right. And I
was like, are we talking about the same really school
like Gladiator.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
She's like yeah, Alien, yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Aleen Yeah. And I said, what makes you?
Speaker 1 (27:30):
She's the same age as me, She's in twenty two books,
And I'm like, so, what's the trick, Like, what's the secret?
She's like, I'll be brave and I won't think about
the like what if this happens?
Speaker 2 (27:41):
What if I foil? What if I bomb?
Speaker 1 (27:42):
What if I I think, as a stand up you
have to know that you're going to bomb, and you
have to test your material out. But if you've got
that litmus from touring with those girls like that was
only last year?
Speaker 2 (27:55):
Was yeah, that's pretty recent.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
Twelve months ago. Yeah, I know.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
But Copletely sets down to Comedy Festival.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
I do know what's wrong with my head that I
do a live radio show and do bits the whole
show and won't a batter an eyelid and won't even
think about it till the MIC's aron doesn't bother me.
But then to do this, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Here's my challenge for you. Then go back to LA
and do a stand up course.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
I love to, I know I love to, and just
do like.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
A six weeker, like you don't even need it, and
do that and then you'll come back with the chot
because it's almost like I think, if you do it enough,
and you know what training is like in America, like
they make you stand in the fire from class one. Usually,
if you do it enough, if you're gonna come back
and be like, all right, I've got a set. Like
you said, you've got the title, you've got the material.
It's just about jumping essentially right and not overthinking it.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
I know, I know I do overthink.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Oh so do I I can relate to that. I
have to ask you this is going to sound like
a bit of a like not deep question.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
But like a's your relationship with your father?
Speaker 1 (28:52):
No, not like I always think creatives are incredible but
probably have a fair bit of like self doubt.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Yeah, do you experience.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
That, yes, but it really changes, like with radio, like
oh my god, never you know, like, yeah, I trusted
and I had done it for so long that it
was in fact, towards the end, I probably got a
bit lazy because I was complacent, Like I just knew
it was so easy to do radio talk underwater. I
was like, this is easy, and I've got the show.
(29:23):
But yeah, self doubt with the things that I genuinely
really want to do, like acting majorly comedy, definitely self doubt,
like yeah, no, I'm riddle with it. But ebbs and flows.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
I feel like you shot something with Brittany last year,
like acting wise.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
Yeah, we shot a pilot. Yeah, yeah, well what was
all great? Great? So Britney had this concept and she
worked with writers and had it written in commissioned yes,
and then we shot the pilot. So she wrote the
role for me and her two best friends and pilot
was great. It's being shopped around. But I really enjoyed that,
but was more nervous than I'd ever been really or anything.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
Yeah, oh no, because you've got just get that's that
is the beauty of when you go to America. You're
just like so in it and like every second person's
writing a sitcom or a pilot or something, and you like,
I I teach yoga when I'm in La to pay
la rent because it's so flipping expensive. And I don't
think I've said this in the pod, but I've been
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cast in sitcom and it was because they came from.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
A yoga class.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
What for hell?
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Cast lit the screenwriter?
Speaker 3 (30:25):
Shut up? Wait down with dogs?
Speaker 2 (30:27):
I want to yes, like, came to a yoga class
in La. Wait are you playing a yogat like real
sassy bussy boss? Oh?
Speaker 3 (30:36):
Yeah, what'scom?
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Tell us it's I mean, it's I know, I mean,
I don't know what I can say because it's it's
it's actually the concept is so amazing. It's about two queer,
codependant brothers. Oh wow, yeah wow yeah. So it was
meant to be shot during the fires in LA, but
that shut everything down, and so it's now as soon
as I fly back ten days later, I shoot it.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
I'm so pumped. But came from teaching. Yah.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
I know you're right, And you know what's so funny?
I think humans just do it. Like all my success
has come from meeting someone that's never been an application
or an audition really, So why is my brain thinking
that it has to be that way now when all
the success that I've had has been the opposite.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Also, who's your favorite stand up? Just right to them?
Speaker 3 (31:19):
Oh yeah, I know, you're right, I know, but I
love a lot of internationals.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
I know, but we've got such goodies here.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
Oh we're brilliant. Yeah, but I know a lot of them.
Like Julia Morris, I think is so funny. I've had
on my know I I've had her on my show
a bunch of times, Like I've interviewed all these.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
Well her training. I did the same training as her
in LA. She's sitcom trained to really Leslie Khnt.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Yeah yeah, yeah, that's how I got into the class.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
I dropped it.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
I was like, Julia Morris said, I should train with you,
and they're like, because in LA it's all like lists
to get in and stuff.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
I got it absolutely mental, but Row that's wild. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
So like just like and here's the thing, I think
creatives know what the struggle is like, and they know
that like self doubt is part of the imposter syndrome,
It's all part of the territory. Don't ever be afraid
to like ask and be like, hey, do you know
what I mean?
Speaker 3 (32:06):
I know, I do know what you mean.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
I want to see a stand up show in the
next twelve months, thank you very much.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
Okay, sure front you've heard it here. Am I going
to have to give you the tickets because you gave
me a hot chocolate? Not at all? Okay, not at all?
Speaker 1 (32:17):
But I think, like I think, if that's something that
scares you, and that like the stand up and the acting,
like gn me, run at it, just run at it.
Like acting scar still scares the shit out of me.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
But it's I And.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
It wasn't until I got into classes that I was like, oh,
I have to sit in comedic writing.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
I could never stand up, can't do improv.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
But like the writing that I sit with interesting like scripted,
like sitcom.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
It's so fascinat. You don't learn that unless you sit
there do it. You experience it.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
There's also parts of me like I've never really spoken
about this, but you know in my career that I'm
at now and you know, I had to big shake
up with my radio shows twenty twenty four, going back
back into radio, I was like, oh, it doesn't feel
like I should be doing that really well. I can
do it with my eyes closed, like and I really
and I love it. It's so much fun. But it's
like not, it's like play for me, Like it's very
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you want to be challenged. Yeah, yeah. And also there's
so much that I want to do and I know
that I could probably get a radio gig fingers cross God,
Like I'd love to get a radio gig, anyone would,
and I'd be very lucky to there's that humility coming in,
but I'm like, no, I think I should. There's definitely
a major part of me that's like now it feels
like the easy option for me.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
I felt like that with books, and I took a
big break writing books for a while and dove into acting,
which was like you know, so hard, so much rejection,
so crazy and peak. Especially in Australia, people were like, no,
stain your lane. You're a nutritionist, so like if you
know that the like radio that's within you, like that's
(33:50):
just who you are, that's party, it's never going to
go anywhere.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
Well that's exactly right. It's like the late night thing
that you touched on, Like I could slot into a
show in twenty years. In twenty years, Yes, it's there.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Just yeah, I think I feel like we're just like
planning your career.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
I got to get excited.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
And you did mention what happened at the end of
last year. Yeah, how on earth did that?
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Like rock? You didn't knock you for a six?
Speaker 3 (34:14):
Yeah? Well, first of all, I didn't see it coming
at all.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Can you share a little bit just for the listener.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
Yeah? Yeah. So I was let go from RN. So,
I mean you heard the story of how it started.
I was there at nineteen and I was let go.
End of twenty twenty four, I was on two shows.
So I hosted my night show, The Night Show with
Mitch Cherry, which was a beautify It's my dream and
we only had it for twelve months and then we
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got cut, but it is beautiful.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
It gives late night talk show.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
That was the breath a brief. I sent Conan's Conan's
Original and that's what we based it off. So I
had that and had like the biggest stars like Miley
Cyrus do it, but like six times, Sabrina Carpenter, everyone
would come on. It was amazing. Yeah, and then I
did the pick up, which was the Mum Show and
the ove O in Brittany and Laura, Yeah, from Life
cut and we did that for three years. And yeah,
they cut me and I was really surprised, genuinely, like shocked.
(35:08):
And I haven't really spoken about it, you know, I
haven't spoken about it because my podcast ended coincidentally the
week before we chose to end it, and we were
about to record a show and my co host was
sitting in this exact studio and I said, I'm going
to be twenty late. I've just got a meeting with someone.
I don't know what it's about. And I genuinely said,
might be fired, so might not come back as a joke.
(35:29):
And then they got fired.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
Did they give reasoning?
Speaker 3 (35:32):
Yeah, as much as they could.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
I was told it was financial, and it was. They
have signed a big contract for Kyle and Jackie are Yeah,
another ten year deal for them, which two hundred million
over ten years, and they needed to cut costs. So
you know what, it was not just me. There was
fifty other staff members that were working. And I mean,
I'm so lucky that I can jump on and do
other shows. I can jump to another network, and I
can do social media influencing and I can do whatever whatever.
(35:59):
But so many staff members that are so brilliant and
so creative but are really struggling to find work. And
it was a big blow for the whole industry, but
personally really shocked because I there's probably three four other
people at the station that have been around for as
long as I have, and I'd started at nineteen and
I was twenty nine. So I gave yeah. But also
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like I did late nights. I did nine pm till midnight,
paid forty grand a year, five nights a week. And
then I was feeling in for Kyle and Jackie O
when they were off, so I was starting at three am.
I'd finish at nine am. I'd sleep in the car
sometimes come back in the harbor. I live so far away.
So like, I gave a lot to the network. So
(36:41):
maybe that was my blind faith, thinking, well, I won't
chop me like I'd seen so many shows get chopped. Yeah,
and I'm like, it's not gonna happen to me. I'm
friends with everyone, I'm part of the furniture, the audience
know me. Aside from Kyle and JACKIEO and the work
day host, no one had been on air at the
network as long as we all had so yeah, it
was a real shock, a shock for the management too,
to be honest, like, I think decisions are made from
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above that made it happen.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
You shared it so beautifully. I think it was with
Brittany and Laura.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
Yeah, yeah, and you shared that really like I don't
know if you've ever watched that back or you can
watch that bad.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
I don't want to.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
It's but it is like if and when you feel ready,
it is.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
I know it's like would have felt like horrific news
to live that, but like you, you share it so
honestly and it is like sad but beautiful to watch,
if that makes sense. Yeah, thanks, and you should be
I think you should be proud of the way that
you chose to share that.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
Well, that's the other thing, like when you I didn't
realize I'd ever been let go from my own radio show,
Like how do you deal with it? And I mean
kudos to arn for letting me stay on air genuinely,
like I have. I worked on two shows before I
got my own show, and they were both canceled and
they were walked that day and they didn't to have
another goodbuye so I got to stay on for four
weeks and have a goodbye show. And I'm very grateful
(38:06):
they let me do that, so yeah, kudos to them
for letting me do that, and they let me post
that online and that was social media footage that were
filmed in their studios and they didn't have to let
all that go out. So I very much you know,
had a good run there, But it was hard. That
was just that was live, that was what we said,
that's what went to air, and we found out three
(38:26):
days before and the girls didn't know. So it's sick
and twisted that the girls the show that we had
to pick up Britt mitche Laura only ever existed as
that their co host was just pulled from them and
they had no saying it and they have to continue
on doing the show. Yeah, but they want me there.
It's we were all really gutted.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
Oh it sounds outbreaking, yeah, it literally.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
And it sounds like you like what following all three
of you on socials that you can feel the genuine
camaraderie and chemistry the three of you had too, and
I think that that's often like so hard to find
in a radio your show or a great pod or
you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
And I think that like what the.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
Three of you had, Like I hope you guys will
do stuff together.
Speaker 3 (39:07):
Yeah we will. Yeah, Well I'm em seeing BRIT's wedding
in a couple of months, so that's that's private, but
I'll instagram live it if you want to watch it.
But like just but also there's like you know, Kim,
people are dying. Like it's not that it's in the
big scheme of things. I'm fine, It's all good and
actually probably needed to happen. Like I'm lazy in my
bones and I got I was not complacent. I did
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two shows every day. I was exhausted, but like I
wasn't doing anything else. I wasn't following the comedy dreams
or the improm or the stand up or the acting.
So the universe has ways of like pushing you out
of your comfort zone. And you know, if I had
never left, if I'd never been pushed out, I would
never have left.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
Totally, totally, totally, totally well then far out. Not to
get hippie on you, but like maybe like this is
all and if and when you go and train in La,
I've got the best acting coach for you.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
I would genuinely love it. I really would love her.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
Yeah, I'm going to say in recently, I'm going to
send it to you. She teaches freedom as an actor. Wow,
and so like if you're doing a script, whether it's
heavy light media like comedy, she'll just be like I
need to feel Mitch in it like and teaches you
how to bring you without you being like, well, this
is my interpretation of.
Speaker 3 (40:24):
Good because that's where acting loses me. And that's a
Atlantic Theater company, which is, oh my god, it's a
whole thing. It's Mammett like David Mammett and William H.
Macy co owns the school. So it's it's very intention based,
like you need an intention on an intention, Like what's
your intention? I don't know, but fucking tension headache, Like
it's it's intense. It didn't really work for me in
that sense.
Speaker 1 (40:44):
Oh no, no, you love this teacher teaches like Sam
Rockwell and like it's all it's a little bit more miisonery.
So you learn by wrote, you learn by wrote, and
then you literally do all the work, chuck it away
and then just show up.
Speaker 3 (40:57):
Yeah. I love that.
Speaker 1 (40:57):
And she's an on set acting coach, so nose like
but we'll talk often between directors and actors. Oh, so
you as a student get to just learn this skill
of like what the prep I get to do in
the trailer? How much like how much time do I
get to reset when everyone's talking in video village and
going to give me feedback?
Speaker 2 (41:16):
And I'm I going to get that? Like it's so
fascinating you.
Speaker 3 (41:19):
Kind of don't even really think that that's what happens.
Like that, there can be acting coaches like that. Some
of the biggest actors in the world will have people
there for them, right.
Speaker 2 (41:26):
Yeah, And sometimes shows will bring on coaches.
Speaker 3 (41:29):
Is that like a red flag? Like, hey, we've brought
this coach on. We think you need it.
Speaker 1 (41:32):
No, no, no, I think it'll just be like sometimes
big budgets and we'll be like, all right, we want
to have a coach that can speak between director and
actors and like bridge that gap. Because some directors you
would know this for sure, but some directors are like
actors directors. They'll be like, Mitch, I love what you're
doing here, can you just give it a little bit
(41:52):
more like to persuade or whatever, like change the verb,
you know what I mean? Like, Whereas like some will
just be like, give you the weirdest note and you're.
Speaker 2 (42:01):
Like, the fuck do they work with that?
Speaker 3 (42:03):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (42:04):
So I'm excited for this next phase.
Speaker 3 (42:07):
Yeah me too. Let's talk because I really want I've
I've got time on my hands, and I'm thinking a
trip to LA would be amazing. Well, replacing the world.
Speaker 2 (42:15):
Really do you love about it?
Speaker 3 (42:17):
Place in the world. I've been then nine ten times,
like just traveling. What I love about it? I'm like
an entertainment kid. I love the Hollywood of it all. Yeah,
I also love the hills. There's something about the hills
that are Like when the La fires happened, I was like,
really really upset.
Speaker 2 (42:33):
Because I was living that. That was wild.
Speaker 3 (42:35):
Yeah not so yeah, my god, your poor thing, But like,
are you in the hills? Where are you?
Speaker 2 (42:39):
Base of the hills?
Speaker 1 (42:40):
So we we've got a rooftop and we could see
the Pacific Palisades from one side and Pasaden and from
the other. And I went up at sunrise and the
sky was black and orange.
Speaker 2 (42:50):
It was mental. But yeah, I imagine.
Speaker 1 (42:52):
If you've got an affiliation with LA you would have
felt that. And it had a huge effect on the
entertainment industry when it happened, but it.
Speaker 2 (42:59):
Was is yeah, just such a beast.
Speaker 1 (43:02):
But I think also you if you love La and
these are your dreams, and not that I'm here to
coach you, by the way, please do but like you
can like get.
Speaker 2 (43:12):
On all those sets like you're Jimmy Kimmel taping.
Speaker 3 (43:14):
Oh trust me, okay, I'll get my punch cut out.
Been to Kimmel twice, I've been to Conan four times.
I've never seen Jimmy fallon neither of I so hard
and such a small theater. I've been in the theater,
I've been to the SNL theater. I've seen whoever. I've
never seen Colbert. I never seen let him and miss him.
He wasn't my time. That's sad. But the SNL of
(43:36):
it all is also another aspect. Like grew up watching
SNL thinking like this is it? Like this is so cool.
There's so much talent in Australia for there to be
a sketch comedy show. That's another discussion about why that
wouldn't work or couldn't work. I think Tall Poppy really
fucks creatives in this country.
Speaker 2 (43:53):
Americans literally don't know what it means. It's like tall poppy.
Oh my god, poppy.
Speaker 3 (43:58):
Yeah. I interviewed Will not will On Nett from Oh God,
what's he? And he's in a stand show on stan
I'll think of his name. He was at the Logis
for whatever reason with Darcy Cardon, who's comedian and she
actress's free from and I'm like, oh god, guys, like,
what's it? What's it like being at the Logis? It's
(44:19):
so shit compared to the Emmy's like having a laugh,
like it's so Darrow and morell Bogan And she was
like can you stop for a second. She's like, dude,
like we've learned this new phrase tall poppy.
Speaker 2 (44:28):
Yeah, this is cool.
Speaker 3 (44:29):
You've got a red carp Like was like, shut up,
you know, like they even they hate the concept, like
what is wrong with you? Why do you punch down?
Speaker 2 (44:36):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (44:37):
And that's what I think as well, Like I love
that you've got this like humble side of you, but
I think you've also got to celebrate yourself. You've done
so much. You've already lived a career that people would
dream of having, and now it's like you're only twenty nine.
Speaker 2 (44:51):
How cool?
Speaker 3 (44:52):
But I yeah, I know I'm dating a twenty two
year old. So I'm like, fuck old, you know, I'm.
Speaker 1 (44:57):
Yeah, Oh please please I can if I as your elder,
Oh god, enjoy like so fun and so much shit
happens in your thirties, like so much cool shit, and
you figure out who you are and you like, like
it's it's just like you know your values and morals
(45:19):
so well that you figure out what you're willing to
bend and flex on, and then you'll figure out what
you're willing to say no to yes. And I think,
like for you as a stand up that's going to
be really important.
Speaker 3 (45:29):
I agree. Yeah. Do you want to hear the title
of the show, yes, all right, So it's Radio Killed
the Radio Star. Amazing great title, right, great, And it's
everything that happened in ten years of hosting the commercial
radio show. It's the stuff that it's wild. Like I
just posted this clip to TikTok. You probably haven't seen.
I'll send it to you. Yeah, but it's when I
interviewed Miley cyrul No.
Speaker 2 (45:48):
I watched it. That was my next question and I
let her.
Speaker 3 (45:49):
Into the Zoom interview early and you sneak snapchat my
family like batchat to Miley, and she said and it's real.
She just sits there. She's like, helloy voice like a
frog and U but like there are so many moments
like that. But like I've got I can see it
in my head. You got the audio visual. Yeah, I've
got this whole bit that celebrities just could not, for
(46:10):
the life of them, get my name right, Katy Perry,
and you get things called id's in the radio industry,
which is like, you know, they say your name hates
Katy Perry and I'm I'm with Lola Perry failing. So
she set it through and she's like, hey, I'm Katy
Perry and I'm with my good friend Mitch churreal like
just gets my name so confidently wrong. My good friend
Mitch Churrel Kate Miller Hyde Kid did one in the
(46:32):
last few months, and she thought I was a radio duo.
She's like, good, ay, I'm with my good pal, good
pals Mitch and chury No, like a wacky radio duo
Mitch and chury No. Yeah. I've got so many of
visible audiographs, so you know I can. It's just a
lot there.
Speaker 2 (46:48):
I have to say. I watched the full Miley interview.
Oh yeah, like you are such.
Speaker 1 (46:53):
A natural at just like ver nice, you meet people
and you order madly. I felt like it made me
think two things about you. One you must research. So
when you tell me you're complacent, I think that's BS.
I think that's the humble, weird thing coming from talking
down thing. No, that is like, and you can meet
(47:15):
people really like, you meet them where they are, and
I think that's probably through being an incredible radio host
and pod host and all of that. And I think
the combo of that and obviously you don't being a comic.
Speaker 2 (47:28):
You don't take yourself seriously.
Speaker 1 (47:30):
Yeah, any kind of fire it kind of negates it
straight away as well.
Speaker 2 (47:35):
No, it's so.
Speaker 1 (47:36):
Fun because I loved watching that interview and I was like,
it's like Miley is, like, that'd be pretty intimidating walking
into an interview like that.
Speaker 3 (47:45):
Yeah. Yeah it was yeah from my living room too,
or from my spare room. It was the middle of COVID,
yeah as well. Yeah, the l and now I posted
to TikTok and the top comment is like, I love
how immediately disarmed she was when she realized you were gay,
because there's this moment where I'm like, these are my
boyfriend's vinyls and she goes yeah, and her energy changes.
She's like, yes you faget, Oh my god, really brutal,
(48:08):
like okay, but sure, go off, queen.
Speaker 2 (48:10):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (48:10):
But she was so much like she kind of shoulders relaxed. Yeah,
she loves the guys. It was very funny, and she like.
Speaker 1 (48:16):
Really wanted to connect. You could feel the connect and
she wouldn't like whatever you said. She would make sure
she like met you, when heard you and you know
what I mean, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (48:23):
I know what you mean. There was one other that
was really that was like that that I remember thinking, oh,
I did a good job, like I'm really proud of this,
and that was Billie Eilish. I interviewed Billy when she
was in Sydney face to face and her mum was
there and a best friend were there, and I met
her brother and it was like, she's so cool and
it was one of those interviews. It didn't the best,
like I think it's like one hundred and eighty million views,
Oh my god, something ridiculous, like on YouTube somewhere and
(48:45):
it gets ripped by everyone like that. All the fan
accounts steal it so it would be everywhere. But it
was one of those interviews that did really well and
I was so proud of it and it was like,
oh god, that's fun. But then to your point, like
I think, like I know I can do that. I
want to do something different.
Speaker 2 (48:59):
You know, you could look, here's one thing.
Speaker 1 (49:01):
As your elder, you can do it all, Like you
can do stand up and have a great radio show
and be working on the world's best talk show eever,
do you know.
Speaker 2 (49:11):
What I mean?
Speaker 3 (49:12):
Like, do you have a pitch for your talk show?
Do you have you have anything anything?
Speaker 1 (49:14):
Oh my goodness, I've written so many pitch pitch decks
I reckon. I probably sit more in like yeah, daytime
lifestyle a bit of like Drew Barrymore meets the non
problematic Alan, you know, like so good, light, fun, warm,
like I'm very warm all that stuff. But I but
like I nerd out over like and I know you
(49:36):
would just give me your punch card of all the
amazing shows you've been to. But I have to say,
and I know a lot of people don't like any
but seeing James Corden record live was incredible, brilliant.
Speaker 2 (49:47):
One take.
Speaker 3 (49:48):
Can I say James Corden has one fan on this earth?
It's me, me.
Speaker 1 (49:51):
Too, No, and like like in between takes we'll be like, guys,
what do you want to know? And like spent so
much time as you go to a lot where you
don't get that audience interaction some ag.
Speaker 3 (50:03):
Yeah, I think he is such an entertainer. He's really good.
And so what the guy gets a bit tired like
Jesus Christ, you would too, just two kids, you know.
I have a lot of time for James Corden. I mean,
if he's a bastard, you know, I'm sure sure, I
don't know, yes, And I'm talking about his skill set.
I think he's very very good. You know his I
(50:24):
went to James Corden twice once saw him brilliant. Second
time it was when his son was born and they
had a fill in host and they didn't announce who
it was, and I was like, this is random. Got
the ticket? Was cool? Get there it's Harry Styles. No, yeah,
it's the it's the episode that Harry Styles hosted and
he had Kendall genneron for Fill Your Guts or Spill
(50:45):
Your Guts where they did the gross ship and now
they were exites they dated. It's got millions and millions
of views and I was there in the audience and
I'm like, this is insanity that I'm here right now.
And yeah, I think I flew out that night or
it was like such a chaotic event to make it happen.
But yeah, nice sow Harry do it.
Speaker 1 (51:01):
I mean that's such a that's such a They're those
moments where you're like and I love la.
Speaker 3 (51:05):
Yeah exactly, and then you come back to Sydney and
it's like, oh god, you know, come and away on again,
you know, write the projects on love it. But it's
all the same.
Speaker 2 (51:15):
I have to ask. I could talk to you all
day long.
Speaker 1 (51:16):
But final question is somebody that like aspires to be
like you, like someone that wants to work in radio
or wants to be creative or wants to do Like,
what advice have you got because it like I think
like you do have that beautiful, like romantic story of
like I was a radio kid, I got into radio.
But like for someone now like wanting to work in
(51:37):
the entertainment industry, what would you say?
Speaker 3 (51:40):
Oh my god, I've got two answers. First answer is
post on TikTok really yeah, genuinely yes, Yeah, start posting, Okay, seriously,
don't start a podcast, just post on TikTok. And that's one.
But two is I think really try to lead with authenticity.
I think that that is like what it's the content
(52:02):
that people want on any platform like you can you
think podcasts, you think radio, TV, social media, like people
just want authenticity, right, even with acting, right, I mean
basically it's you want an authentic performance. You want to
feel like real human. I just think, like, just don't
try to be anyone, don't try to just just be
you like it's I think that is the best advice, seriously,
(52:23):
because I wasn't trying to emulate anyone in my early days.
Like you just you go in and you be you.
I think that's it. But genuinely posted TikTok because like god,
the cash that's out there for influencing and not influencing,
but just post vlog your life.
Speaker 2 (52:37):
It's bad.
Speaker 3 (52:37):
Long form content's back, baby. People want this episode in
full on YouTube. You know, people want lots of content
and just start.
Speaker 1 (52:44):
Posting all right, I love it, thank you, my friend,
and can we now be friends please?
Speaker 3 (52:50):
I think so. I think we were at the start, man,
I mean, what was this whole thing if we weren't
friends totally. I had so much fine, thank.
Speaker 2 (52:57):
You and I want to hang when you're next to
our line, I'd love.
Speaker 3 (52:59):
To Yeah, yeah, yeah, well connect, I get your number.
Speaker 2 (53:01):
We'll go to we're taping like a late show tape.
Speaker 3 (53:04):
Now we're going on a sugarfish Man and we're sitting
there until Conan O'Brien walks.
Speaker 2 (53:07):
In a little from Colin A and b Ye, thank you,
my friend, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (53:14):
That's a wrap on another episode of Fearlessly Failing. As always,
thank you to our guests, and let's continue the conversation
on Instagram.
Speaker 2 (53:25):
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welcome to your pod. Your interviewp with Mitch Jury. He's
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literally does it all in this chart.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
He's really honest.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
He will just share really openly the highs and lows
of his career, some of which has been kind of public.
And he has this incredible work ethic that I think
any creative if you listen to this, I think you're
gonna find it really inspiring because I think that often
we see the highlight reel, we see the wins, we
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don't often see the or hear about the slog and
how tough and how long it can take to kind
of like make your dreams come true. So Mitch chairs
really openly and honestly, and I said this at the.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
End of our chat.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
I was like, can we please be friends? And he's
just an effing legend. So you, the listener, I hope
you love this chat. I hope you get something out
of this.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Mitch. You flipping wonderful.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
I cannot wait to see you next time I'm in Australia. Also,
please come and visit me in LA I would absolutely
love that. And yes, I am absolutely adopting you as
my friend, against maybe your will. Everyone else, go listen, enjoy,
share it with your mates.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
You get a laugh out of this.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Mitch.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
You're wonderful. Mitch Drue, welcome to the pud Well A
very great to be here. Oh my goodness.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
So I'm going to put a bit of pressure on
you straight out of the gate, Halfair. I have this
thing when I interview people, like if I think I
might be friends with them after yeah, oh no no.
But I was saying this to the beautiful Claire who's
my pod manager, and I was like, I have a
feeling we might become friends after this.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
I think so too. I thought the exact same thing
as soon as I we gave me gifts too. You
butter me up with these free your free hot chocolate.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
I love It's my love language, chocolate. I'm a gift giver.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
They are your own products, so you know, I'm deeply
aware of where this is coming from. Blow the dust, honey,
you get me an out of the book, and chocolate
we got to get other.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Guess i'd hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
So to me researching, I'm a bit of a deep diver,
Like I really am, a bit of a do all
the research and then throw it away and just go
wherever the interview goes.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
And for the listener. Handwritten too, which is very is
that rare. I've never seen that in my entire career.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Are you kidding?
Speaker 3 (02:57):
And can you hold it up? I just want to
get it. I want to get a age of your handwriting.
Beautiful handwriting.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Really a bit messy, but it's good.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
It's a window to the personality and the psyche. I think.
So what you googling with one hand, iPad on my lap, well,
a Berry branded hot chocolate in the other hand, and
then what a pen and you're just jotting?
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Is literally for you, I'll because you were such a
joy to research.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Should I say so?
Speaker 1 (03:20):
I'd had my laptop up and I always start I
go a bit backwards.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
I always start with YouTube and.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Then I go podcasts, and then I go like your content,
and then I usually end up with your content last,
like I want to see other people's like pov of
you a bit interesting.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Oh, I like it your back end then front end, yes,
and so then.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
I'm like, oh, have to take notes.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
I have to take handwritten notes, and I keep all
my pod like I'm nearly at seven hundred deps and
I keep all my like I never throw a notebook out.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Yeah, I like that. That's me because I went to
theater school. I've got all my theater school books.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
And I was showing my boyfriend the other day because
we were cleaning out my room, and I'm like, oh
my god, these are my notes. Oh I was about kid.
It's not but I don't do it anymore. So I
admire it. I really wow.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Yeah, I'm all for.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
I'm also I'm so much older than you, so I
think it's also like being an elder millennial.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Which is, oh, you're an elder millennial. I'm thirty nine,
all right, now, well I'm twenty nine, so we have
ten years.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Right, But that's a whole generational.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Per Pishpash couldn't tell, you know, you're a young soul.
I'm an old soul. You know, we're both hot, like
just shit right, But we've got the bowtos going for you know.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
I love that you love. Am I allowed to say?
What salmon sperm.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Sounds like a guy that I was telling you about
on a date before with salmon and I got seven sperm? Yeah? No,
I've had seven sperm in the in the eyes.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Oh my goodness. Sign me.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Okay, So you are a radio host, a comedian, a
TV presenter. So for me, when I see all of
that and I start to like soak up all your content,
I'm like, you're an entertainer.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
You're like a born entertainer.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Is that how you would describe yourself?
Speaker 3 (04:50):
I say, I think, I say performer? Do you Yeah?
Because I've got this real ego complex and this real
humility complex that I'm just starting to unpack that has
been drilled to me from a very young age. Like
two parents that were not creatives, very successful, but not creatives,
and then they had this little creative son who was,
you know, getting small achievements as a kid school captain
and you know, as the bigger things you can achieve
(05:12):
as a kid, but it was drilled into me from
such a young age like you must be humble, Like
we don't want this kid that thinks he's better than
everyone else. And it has seriously made me like it's
kind of pushed me down a little. So I get
very I really don't like announcing or labeling what I
do because I feel yeah, and it's very Australian, very
tall pop.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Yeah yeah yeah. I's like you gotta go back to America.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Yeah, I know, right, I thought about that because god, yeah,
for many reasons. But we can get to that. But yeah,
I struggle with entertainer at steel. I have a visceral
reaction if I say I'm a comedian, i had a
radio show, or I'm an entertainer, or I've got followers.
It really physically even now like recoil really yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
I remember I was an acting class in Melbourne and
their teacher stopped me and she's like, you are not
an actor, you are an entertainer. And I was like, well,
I think that's a compliment. Yes, I'll take that as
a win because you and I have the exact.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Same mega dream.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Oh really yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
So one of it's like Steve Colbert is like my
north Star.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Yes, and I know who I sat next to it
Sushi Brentwood.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Oh stop that sushi with his wife, his son. He's
so tall, so.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Tall. Wait what sushi restaurant?
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Sugar Fish?
Speaker 3 (06:28):
He talks about it on his podcast. I've always thought,
next time I'm in La, I'm going sugar Fish packed.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
It was packed and there was only one table, and
my friend and I sat next to him. We just
ordered a few sakis to kind of like and we
had a commoners, full blown combo with him.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Oh I love it so much as great right.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
In kind as anything, like so incredible, so sweet. And
my friend had like I think she had a couple
more sakis than me, and she's like, Lola was just
on a podcast and I was like, oh my god,
Like fully was like pitchy meter kind of no, Brian, how.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Did you take it?
Speaker 1 (06:59):
He's he's so lovely, Like he was like, oh my god,
tell me about He had also interviewed her husband, so,
who's a massive actor, and so we had like we
were kind of like in but I was like, oh,
I'll get in any old way. Wow, I love that
song so kind so had time of day for us,
like it was.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
It was one of those.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
So LA is a really brutal place sometimes career wise,
and then you have those days where you're just like,
oh no, it's okay. And I'd just gone from interviewing
Anthey Lapalia to having dinner next to Conan O'Brien all
in the one night. Wow yeah, and I was like, Okay,
alas amazing. This is where I'm so excited to talk
to you because you and I have the same mega
(07:42):
dream and I can totally see you doing this by
the way, You're so there. And I also think I
agree with you, like let's bring back epic late night
talk shows here in Australia. I agree that I was
a rogue girl.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
I I wrote a letter to Row when his wife
passed away, and because I remember that and it crushed me,
like that was everyone was watching Kylie on Home and
Away and getting married. I'm like, I'm can't give a shit.
Rove McManus, like, this man is my everything. He was
my Brad Pitt, my Tom And when his wife passed,
I remember they took some time off the show and
then my mom suggested that I write him a letter,
(08:21):
and I hand wrote him a letter and sent it
to him. And I didn't get a reply, and I
remember I was gutted and Mum sat me down and
she's like, you know, he's lost his wife, and it
was just a yeah, I watching Rove live. I'll still
remember this bit and that he did maybe on his
last show or what maybe the first show, but he
did this bit where he said, if you're watching the
show live now, I want you all to flick your
(08:43):
lights on. Do you remember this? Yes?
Speaker 2 (08:45):
I remember this.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
And then they had a live feed of Sydney Harbor
and every fucking house went on, off on, everyone was
watching him.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Also, there's something about the magic of that format of
a TV show.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Oh, it's incredible. I love it. I love the grandeur.
And there's a lot to be said about transitioning late
night TV and the chat show into twenty twenty five right,
A lot that needs to change. But I just love
the brass band, I love the host. I loved the monologue.
I love there's something about the old Hollywood desk and
the holding of a pencil and the mug and everything
(09:21):
the suit like, I love the format and it comes
or comes from Rove. So where did it stem for from?
For you? Was it Rove no.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
I mean I always watched Rove, but I like Stick.
When I started acting training, i'd always get put forward
for pilots where I'd like co host lifestyle shows and
they're like, no, you're the nutrition segment girl, and never
get green lit.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
And then I just started.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
I got into acting school that way because I tried
to get into a TV presenting course and they're like, no,
do acting. And I was like, I'd rather the swim
with sharks and they're like, that's a great that's a
great reason do it. And I've never stopped training since
I'm obsessed.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
But I remember in acting school my teacher said, start
what he just said to me, Start watching Steve Colbert.
I know you need to because he does his own
crowd warm up.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Yes, yeah, I've seen. He posts them to TikTok. He
does Q and a's and he posts the videos. I
love it.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
So I'm living in la I go to tap things
all the time. I went to Jennifer Hudson last week.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Oh, I've seen the new age of all these women
the Kelly Clarkson Show, which is so funny to me
that she has a talk show because.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
It love it.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
People love it. But like her interview style is so ridiculous,
and she just talks and talks and talks, but then
she just does what's it with Kylie Oki? You know,
what does she do? What's her segment? Kelly?
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Ok? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Yeah? And people look, but Drew BARRYMA, I mean, look
at all these amazing shows that are.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
Just like, yeah, Wendy Williams back in the day, and
I love Wendy Williams.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
That's probably what I've probably looked a lot, like, watched
a lot of when I'm because I also think I
sit in daytime.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
So well, but I'm here to talk about you.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Oh no, this is so hard for me because, first
of all, can we just say you're seeking twisted because
this studio we're recording in was where I recorded my
podcast for years, I know, and we just finished in
December twenty twenty four and I've not been behind the
mike since. So you've pulled me out of the depths.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Well it suits you, my friends, So I'm glad. I'm
glad that you're back.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
It's I also okay, so hang on, yeah, I know
that we are both like I want to say, like
theater nerds.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Yeah, so you trained in New York. Was it the
Atlantic School.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
Yes, Atlantic Theater Company. Yeah, yeah, so.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Was your When you were younger, You're like, all right,
I'm a theater kid.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
I'm going to go and trade in theater.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
I want to work at like mal Theater Company, Sydney
Theater Company.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Was that kind of the dream?
Speaker 3 (11:30):
Yeah, it was so I when I was a kid.
So I'm nineteen ninety five born, so I coming up.
I was born in Sydney. There was this thing called
the State Drama Company. Yeah, and it was it was
for public schools only. It was like a Department of
Education right thing. And it was the best kids from
drama class because you would have done drama in school,
so did I. Scouts would come out and you'd go
an audition and they'd have a company of twelve to
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thirteen young actors that were the best in the state.
It was the State Drama Company. And I got in
in year ten. They only took seniors year eleven and
year twelve ten and they were like, oh no, he's
he's got something. So I auditioned and then that started
this whole to it to London at the National Theater.
We put on a production to at the National theater.
We went to Hong Kong to it in Hong Kong,
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and then I'm like, oh, I love theater and then
it just that was that was the start of the
love story of being with creatives and you know, rehearsing
and theater games and all that beauty that.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Comes fel you'd nail a theater game.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
I love it. Yeah, it's space jump, is my bitch.
I don't want to zips that, but I mean a
classic I haven't done in a while.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
But honestly, lisstill like I'm so bad at the sports
because I trained in improv as well.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Because I want to talk to you about la yes course,
and was it UCB you trained it?
Speaker 1 (12:43):
I know, I know, I know, I know, but yeah, zipsp.
That would be like our warm up. But I I
find improv training so hard.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
But I did it for the same reason you did.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
I was like, all these talk show hosts have come
through like second s, like there's they've come through like groundlings,
all these amazing.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Schools, and I'm like shift timbers, like I think I
might have funny bones.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
I don't know this, and so I was like, Okay,
I better get into improv school. And like my teacher
would stop me every class, Lola, I can see you
thinking ahead, stop it.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
I can You're in your head, stop it.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Stop at like the fail be okay to fail, fall
flat on your face.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
And I was just like this is not for me.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
But so that is what I fell in love with.
We have a very similar trajectory. Like I was obsessed
with the Second City, which is you know, Steve Carell,
it is Stephen Colbert, It's it's a bunch of comics
that will go in love. I went to Chicago to
see shows at the Second Second City. I was because
I couldn't study there. It just didn't work. But I've
been to Second City, Chicago, I've seen shows. I saw
shows all in New York at U See B. Like
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I was a kid that was in love with all
this stuff and still to this day, I think the
improv study that I did at the Upright Citizens Brigade
Theater in LA was the best.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Oh, you see, so many greats have come out of
you see it. A lot of comedy writers have come
out of UCB. So a part of me is like,
did you did a party? You want want to stay
there and like see what would happen in America because
I know, like your trajectory completely kind of changed when
you got back here at nineteen. But was a party
you Like, no, I'm going to you know, get my
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one and give it a crack over here.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
For sure, that was the plan. So I went to
university in Sydney, University of Wollongong. Great university, but it's
more of a rainforest than it is university. It's just
humid and gorgeous and there's a peacock on campus, and
the peacock in a subway. I could leave here, but
it wasn't for me, like traditional study. It's just not
how my brain works. I'm like very much a creative brain.
So I'm like, no, it's not for me. My parents
(14:34):
are amazing, and I said, I really think I want
to have a stab for it in America and they said, great,
will help you, let's go. So yeah, moved to New
York at nineteen amazing. I was straight, by the way,
really yeah, dating women? When did you come out twenty three?
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Really?
Speaker 3 (14:48):
Yeah? Yeah? Write that on that notepack. Yeah I didn't know,
Yeah I did at twenty three, So I yeah, I
was sleeping with women, had a girl friend. She had
a house in the Hamptons, but Dad was a French
restauranteur and he was loaded and lived on the Upper
East Side. I was like, I'm living the dream.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
I'm very gossip girl vibes.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
Yeah, and the fact that I knew that reference gay yeah,
the fact that I'm like, I'm in Gossip Girls girlfriend okay, yeah, yeah,
the closet is glass. So I did that and loved
it and did it for like ten months. Yeah, and
ran out of cash, and you know, nineteen, didn't have
much money. I worked so easy to do in America though,
so easy to do is twenty fifteen. So then I'm
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mum and dad, you know bank of Mum and Dad
like I need some help, and they're not loaded by
any means, so they're like, come back, you need to
work for a bit. So I came back and I
had the plan of working for three to four months
and then I jet back over and whatever. And I
came back and the job that I get to earn
cash is on the street team at AARN which is
Kiss FAM in Sydney. And I started at Kiss FM
(15:47):
and within three weeks I was on air on Kyle
and Jack Yosha, and then within twelve months I had
my own show and I didn't stop.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
That's insane, So like why.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
Jump off that? And we've missed really pivotal information that
I it ties into the row of it all. But
mega broadcast nerd like Hamish and Andy Bow, you know,
loved radio, Fife box, Fiffee and Jewels, Jewels f Linder
you still love listening to. So I loved radio. So
for me, radio was my fallback so to kind of
get an in. I thought this is easier than what
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I was going to do over there, and that yeah stayed.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Oh okay. So you've had such an amazing radio career.
Has there been anything where you're like, oh my god,
pinch me, like that was the best thing ever got?
Speaker 3 (16:28):
Yeah, A lot like the whole thing, the fact that
it even happened, right, like, you know, it just doesn't.
It doesn't happen for a kid that loves radio. It
hasn't happened since Like in Australia, I can't think of
another broadcaster that was on National Metro Radio that started
as a radio nerd, which saddens me because I got
to have that trajectory. I feel like that's why it
should be Yeah, which should and that look at I
(16:49):
mean Carl Sanderlance, you know, he had that same trajectory. Yeah,
Merrick Watts was a similar trajectory. Whipper from Fitzen Whipper.
They all had that radio boy to you know, star
radio host trajectory. It just doesn't happen these days. But
I wouldn't change it for the world. Like I love
live live broadcast. Yeah, like everything to me, and it's
such a good school, like it's it taught me everything.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Be kine too.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Anytime I interview someone that's a comic and in radio,
I'm like, well, they're going to speak in soundbites, like
I have to prepare.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
My sorry, even I try to cock myself. You hear
my pace change because I'm like, fuck, I'm very on
air right now. And then I go get too cerebral
and who am I trying to fucking be?
Speaker 2 (17:29):
And then it bring it all on?
Speaker 1 (17:33):
I can you and this is gonna I'm my brain
is a pinball machine. I'm sure you can tell that already.
Can you tell me? Like this was early I think
this was early days. Yeah, the cash cop Oh god,
and did you have to like literally essentially audition in
the pit and just start walking around like yeah, yes,
literally a rooster.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
So nineteen year old Mitch had just come back from
UCB and there was never any like cocking ins or
arrogance because like whip both my parents like you're not anyone.
So it came came back, was on the street team
giving out cancer coke bags, chips and driving the vans amazing.
Then you know, I'm just me and someone in the
business said, oh, mitches on, he's new is quite funny.
(18:15):
The way that content works is we have this segment idea,
but we don't know how it works. But Channel seven
Sunrise have the cash cow. So then Kiss were like,
we want the cash cock. Funny, you know it works.
So they needed a cash cock, they needed a mascot
and they're like that new kid's funny. Obviously, don't have
to pay me anything. I'm a kid. So they're like
easy and he's fat, that's funny, you know the visual gag. No,
(18:37):
that's how they work. Ye, it's like, oh, he's jubby,
it's great. So I get a message from my manager
and the marketing team going, oh, the head of Kiss
wants to meet you. Head on up after the Kyle
and Jackie Oh show. Tomorrow at nine and thinking okay,
and I didn't know, like, you know, were kings of
a radio station. I didn't know who this boss was.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Yeah yeah, big big bus, big.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
Boss who would later be my boss for my whole career.
And Kyle and Jackie are So I walk up the stairs.
I go to the studio, which I'd never been to before,
and Kyle Jackie is sitting there after the show DBS,
sitting there and he just looks at me and he goes,
I hear you pretty funny. You think you're pretty funny?
And I go, oh, you know, yeah, well you know
I studied improv and you're thinking it's like an audition already, Yeah,
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study improv, you see b And he's like, can you
be a rooster? Cuts me off, can be a rooster?
And I'm like, like a chick? Like a chicken. He's like, yeah,
like a chicken, Ben Chicken. And then in front of
Kyle Jackie, all the other team by the way working
like sitting on the computers working. This is a normal
day for them. So I just go, sure, how can
be chicken? So I squat onto my like my legs
(19:38):
squat down and just walk around the room bucking like
a chicken, and they think it's the funniest thing in
the world. They're dying laughing, and then they pivot talk
about whatever's happening on the show the next day, and
I just stay there like half squatted, like do I
go now? And the head of marketing was there with me.
It's just like you just can't. So I have to
go get up and we go walk off. And then
I got a call that day saying you're a cash cock.
(20:00):
You start next Monday. You're on air. You were the
cash cop. That's how it works, which mind you, no prep,
no producer briefing. It was a miscommunication. They thought Mitch
had it. I thought they had it. So I turn
up at five am. I'm outside some woman's house in Blacktown,
dressed as a giant rooster with a thousand dollars strapped
(20:21):
to my chest like a fucking suicide bomber, saying the
most insane isis maybe you've ever seen in your life.
And I'm strapped and I have a phone, and the
producer crosses to me, the show's live, and you know
a classic producer mind Mitch, Honey, you're on. You're on
after this song three minutes. What do you got for us?
And I had nothing, like genuinely nothing, because I thought
it's a bigger show in the world. That prep me,
(20:42):
brief me, I'll be told what to do. And you
could just hear the pit like she she was livered
and she goes hone. You got to you got to
give us something, babe. You got to think on your feed.
And it was that uc B training and it was
just a Nate and you know, I'm I think I'm
a rooster. What does a rooster sound like? So I
was in Blacktown, so came out of the song It's
time with the cash coock. You know, chicken dance plays
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and in the morning, I mean black Town. They loved
it and early early in the morning to get the cock.
Don't you think like it just works?
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (21:11):
I did it for a year for four years.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Oh my goodness. Yeah, Oh you're amazing stupid.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
Ended up in hospital three times as.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
The cashcock because you got tackled.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
Well that was the whole premise. You get tackled to
the ground. Yeah, and whoever gets you first gets the cash.
And it became this cult Sydney icon, right, and people
there would be like hundreds of people chasing me to
the ground. Men would drive off the highway in there
in their highluxes and chase me into parks. There was
one where it got so popular and the prize was
fifty grand. Something stupid strapped to me and they worked
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out what car I was in. It was like a
higher car, but someone saw me and it was spotted
and I couldn't get out of the car. It was
like a zombie movie, all these these listeners in the
western sidur of the Sydney banging on the window. Yeah,
and you couldn't. It was like Princess Diana. I couldn't
get out of the car dressed as his chicken.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
I like, I feel like as well that show would
feel really high stakes as well, like best Shot, like biggest,
like like huge team like and it's just like you're
on and it's so fascinating the way that their producers like,
you're on, give me something, think on your feet. It
is scary when you're in those like high stake worlds,
but it's really good as well because you can kind
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of like course correct really quickly in the moment, and
it's such a good learning and it's such a great way.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
To cut your tea will make a choice and commit
to it, right, Yeah, which is kind of what improv is,
you know, so you know the best we kind of
skipped over my improv, but the best thing I ever
learned improv. Yeah, and in my comedy training, which I
live by to this day. Like I don't have many mantras,
but when I'm kind of like lost or what's fucking funny?
These days, I always think, and I learned at you see,
b if if that's true, what else is true? Like
(22:47):
if I'm a giant chicken that has a speech impediment,
and that's like, if that's true in this whole world,
then what else can be true? You know? What's the
next level on that? You know? Wow? So it's just
always next level.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
So exactly.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Yeah. Yeah, So if you're in a situation you go, well,
this is funny. It's getting laughs, And if that's true
in this dumb, made up world, then put a hat
on a hat? What else can be true? That's funny?
So I just kind of live by that, and it's
I apply that to everything.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
Oh I love it you act as well, don't you?
Speaker 3 (23:15):
Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (23:16):
What how like?
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Because that feels like such a different beast to like
when you're behind a mic or you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
Yeah, well, I mean to be honest, like acting was
like the dream, the dream. And it was from eighteen
to like twenty three that I was acting. I was
doing productions. I did shows at the atyp yeah, like
to it to the National Theater, but that stopped that,
or when I did radio. I didn't do any any
acting at all, didn't do any acting classes. It kind
of dropped off.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
I gotta say, you suit the actor's red carpet.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
Oh yes, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
But I've been like, does it inspire you, like being
up there and seeing all these like incredible artists being celebrated.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
It does, yet does Yeah? And I'm a jealous person,
You're jealous?
Speaker 1 (23:56):
No, no, no, no, I'll see someone and I'll be like, oh,
I want to be there, Like I want to be there.
But I also know, like, and this is I'm a
decade older than you.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
No one is you.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
There's no other Mitch out there, right, So like what
you as an actor, like what you would bring to
a role would be you and I could read the
same script and brain no opposite.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Things to the world.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
And I think like, as an actor, as a radio host,
as a podcast, as a presenter, as a I see
Ash London's during a book next, and you're like, m
seeing and hosting the whole thing, Like that's a whole
different skill set, but like, no one can do it
the way you're going to do it.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
I know, but it's I mean, comparison is the thief
of joy. I know that, but I still fucking compare.
It always steals my fucking joy, you know.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Like I my acting coach in La always says comparison
is cancer for actresses. And she's like, you can't ever
and she's like, you've got to remember your life can
change overnight as an actor.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
Yeah, I'm one of those people that needs to face
a lesson to learn it. Like I feel totally I
have to. Like I only learned that going through a
really bad breakup and I was just like comparing. I
knew my ex was getting with all these men, and
I'm like it makes myself mad, like cheated on and
all that. Yeah, And I just was being I was
driving myself insane thinking about him with other people. Yeah,
and then I had a friend just be like, Babe,
(25:11):
comparison it's like the thief of joy, you steal your
life And I'm like, you're so right, But I wouldn't unless.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
I had that experience you learn from. It wouldn't make
sense to.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
Me on one of those idiots I have to ask.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
So I just love your brain, like I am. I
feel like I get to nerd out with you right now.
But like if you and I right now could look
into a crystal ball, what would you want to be like?
And you could have any because I feel like you
are in a career where you wear many hats, like
a lot of creatives. Like I would say I'm similar
in that way, but like what would it be like?
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Would you write a book? Would you be acting?
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Would you be like obviously late night talk show hosting
is the ultimate, but the beauty of that is you
can age into it, like do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (25:53):
Like that's something you can do like fifty sixties, you
know what I mean? It's so fun to like and
it be and there.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
Yeah, it's a good question. I don't know. I want
to I want to do it all. I really want
to do standout so it but can we can you
therapize me because I'm so terrified of doing it. I've
done it and I and I did so well. We
sold it. I toured with two of my best friends,
Laura Burna and Britney Hockley. Yeah, and I had a
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radio show with her from Life on Cut.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
I feel like I watched all this unfold on and stuff.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
Yes, yes you would have. And they toured their live
show and they asked me to open with twenty minutes
to stand up. And I'd never done it before, but
I studied the theater and done comedy, and you know,
I was like, I can do this, so wrote A said,
and it was great. I was like sold out State Theater,
sold out Pali Theater.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
Like it was huge.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
Yeah, And I was like, oh, I want to do it.
But then the way my brain works is like, you're
not good. It's not going to work, not funny, you
won't sell tickets. They're there for the girls. Like I
really struggle with that a lot, even in this period
of my life where I've got quite a bit of
free time and I'm not doing a daily radio show
or two daily radio shows. I have a concept for
a show, I've got a title, i've got the material,
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but my brain's like, no one's gonna come.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
You'll be oh no, okay, so I just before you
walked in this room, I interviewed. I'm pretty sure she's
the biggest author in Australia.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Her name's Canda's Fault.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
She's a crime fiction, all that two hundred projection letters
and now she's like Ridley Scott just signed the right
like producing her make her recent book right. And I
was like, are we talking about the same really school
like Gladiator.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
She's like yeah, Alien, yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Aleen Yeah. And I said, what makes you?
Speaker 1 (27:30):
She's the same age as me, She's in twenty two books,
And I'm like, so, what's the trick, Like, what's the secret?
She's like, I'll be brave and I won't think about
the like what if this happens?
Speaker 2 (27:41):
What if I foil? What if I bomb?
Speaker 1 (27:42):
What if I I think, as a stand up you
have to know that you're going to bomb, and you
have to test your material out. But if you've got
that litmus from touring with those girls like that was
only last year?
Speaker 2 (27:55):
Was yeah, that's pretty recent.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
Twelve months ago. Yeah, I know.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
But Copletely sets down to Comedy Festival.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
I do know what's wrong with my head that I
do a live radio show and do bits the whole
show and won't a batter an eyelid and won't even
think about it till the MIC's aron doesn't bother me.
But then to do this, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Here's my challenge for you. Then go back to LA
and do a stand up course.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
I love to, I know I love to, and just
do like.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
A six weeker, like you don't even need it, and
do that and then you'll come back with the chot
because it's almost like I think, if you do it enough,
and you know what training is like in America, like
they make you stand in the fire from class one. Usually,
if you do it enough, if you're gonna come back
and be like, all right, I've got a set. Like
you said, you've got the title, you've got the material.
It's just about jumping essentially right and not overthinking it.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
I know, I know I do overthink.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Oh so do I I can relate to that. I
have to ask you this is going to sound like
a bit of a like not deep question.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
But like a's your relationship with your father?
Speaker 1 (28:52):
No, not like I always think creatives are incredible but
probably have a fair bit of like self doubt.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Yeah, do you experience.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
That, yes, but it really changes, like with radio, like
oh my god, never you know, like, yeah, I trusted
and I had done it for so long that it
was in fact, towards the end, I probably got a
bit lazy because I was complacent, Like I just knew
it was so easy to do radio talk underwater. I
was like, this is easy, and I've got the show.
(29:23):
But yeah, self doubt with the things that I genuinely
really want to do, like acting majorly comedy, definitely self doubt,
like yeah, no, I'm riddle with it. But ebbs and flows.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
I feel like you shot something with Brittany last year,
like acting wise.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
Yeah, we shot a pilot. Yeah, yeah, well what was
all great? Great? So Britney had this concept and she
worked with writers and had it written in commissioned yes,
and then we shot the pilot. So she wrote the
role for me and her two best friends and pilot
was great. It's being shopped around. But I really enjoyed that,
but was more nervous than I'd ever been really or anything.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
Yeah, oh no, because you've got just get that's that
is the beauty of when you go to America. You're
just like so in it and like every second person's
writing a sitcom or a pilot or something, and you like,
I I teach yoga when I'm in La to pay
la rent because it's so flipping expensive. And I don't
think I've said this in the pod, but I've been
(30:18):
cast in sitcom and it was because they came from.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
A yoga class.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
What for hell?
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Cast lit the screenwriter?
Speaker 3 (30:25):
Shut up? Wait down with dogs?
Speaker 2 (30:27):
I want to yes, like, came to a yoga class
in La. Wait are you playing a yogat like real
sassy bussy boss? Oh?
Speaker 3 (30:36):
Yeah, what'scom?
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Tell us it's I mean, it's I know, I mean,
I don't know what I can say because it's it's
it's actually the concept is so amazing. It's about two queer,
codependant brothers. Oh wow, yeah wow yeah. So it was
meant to be shot during the fires in LA, but
that shut everything down, and so it's now as soon
as I fly back ten days later, I shoot it.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
I'm so pumped. But came from teaching. Yah.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
I know you're right, And you know what's so funny?
I think humans just do it. Like all my success
has come from meeting someone that's never been an application
or an audition really, So why is my brain thinking
that it has to be that way now when all
the success that I've had has been the opposite.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Also, who's your favorite stand up? Just right to them?
Speaker 3 (31:19):
Oh yeah, I know, you're right, I know, but I
love a lot of internationals.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
I know, but we've got such goodies here.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
Oh we're brilliant. Yeah, but I know a lot of them.
Like Julia Morris, I think is so funny. I've had
on my know I I've had her on my show
a bunch of times, Like I've interviewed all these.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
Well her training. I did the same training as her
in LA. She's sitcom trained to really Leslie Khnt.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Yeah yeah, yeah, that's how I got into the class.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
I dropped it.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
I was like, Julia Morris said, I should train with you,
and they're like, because in LA it's all like lists
to get in and stuff.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
I got it absolutely mental, but Row that's wild. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
So like just like and here's the thing, I think
creatives know what the struggle is like, and they know
that like self doubt is part of the imposter syndrome,
It's all part of the territory. Don't ever be afraid
to like ask and be like, hey, do you know
what I mean?
Speaker 3 (32:06):
I know, I do know what you mean.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
I want to see a stand up show in the
next twelve months, thank you very much.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
Okay, sure front you've heard it here. Am I going
to have to give you the tickets because you gave
me a hot chocolate? Not at all? Okay, not at all?
Speaker 1 (32:17):
But I think, like I think, if that's something that
scares you, and that like the stand up and the acting,
like gn me, run at it, just run at it.
Like acting scar still scares the shit out of me.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
But it's I And.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
It wasn't until I got into classes that I was like, oh,
I have to sit in comedic writing.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
I could never stand up, can't do improv.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
But like the writing that I sit with interesting like scripted,
like sitcom.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
It's so fascinat. You don't learn that unless you sit
there do it. You experience it.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
There's also parts of me like I've never really spoken
about this, but you know in my career that I'm
at now and you know, I had to big shake
up with my radio shows twenty twenty four, going back
back into radio, I was like, oh, it doesn't feel
like I should be doing that really well. I can
do it with my eyes closed, like and I really
and I love it. It's so much fun. But it's
like not, it's like play for me, Like it's very
(33:13):
you want to be challenged. Yeah, yeah. And also there's
so much that I want to do and I know
that I could probably get a radio gig fingers cross God,
Like I'd love to get a radio gig, anyone would,
and I'd be very lucky to there's that humility coming in,
but I'm like, no, I think I should. There's definitely
a major part of me that's like now it feels
like the easy option for me.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
I felt like that with books, and I took a
big break writing books for a while and dove into acting,
which was like you know, so hard, so much rejection,
so crazy and peak. Especially in Australia, people were like, no,
stain your lane. You're a nutritionist, so like if you
know that the like radio that's within you, like that's
(33:50):
just who you are, that's party, it's never going to
go anywhere.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
Well that's exactly right. It's like the late night thing
that you touched on, Like I could slot into a
show in twenty years. In twenty years, Yes, it's there.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Just yeah, I think I feel like we're just like
planning your career.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
I got to get excited.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
And you did mention what happened at the end of
last year. Yeah, how on earth did that?
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Like rock? You didn't knock you for a six?
Speaker 3 (34:14):
Yeah? Well, first of all, I didn't see it coming
at all.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Can you share a little bit just for the listener.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
Yeah? Yeah. So I was let go from RN. So,
I mean you heard the story of how it started.
I was there at nineteen and I was let go.
End of twenty twenty four, I was on two shows.
So I hosted my night show, The Night Show with
Mitch Cherry, which was a beautify It's my dream and
we only had it for twelve months and then we
(34:39):
got cut, but it is beautiful.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
It gives late night talk show.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
That was the breath a brief. I sent Conan's Conan's
Original and that's what we based it off. So I
had that and had like the biggest stars like Miley
Cyrus do it, but like six times, Sabrina Carpenter, everyone
would come on. It was amazing. Yeah, and then I
did the pick up, which was the Mum Show and
the ove O in Brittany and Laura, Yeah, from Life
cut and we did that for three years. And yeah,
they cut me and I was really surprised, genuinely, like shocked.
(35:08):
And I haven't really spoken about it, you know, I
haven't spoken about it because my podcast ended coincidentally the
week before we chose to end it, and we were
about to record a show and my co host was
sitting in this exact studio and I said, I'm going
to be twenty late. I've just got a meeting with someone.
I don't know what it's about. And I genuinely said,
might be fired, so might not come back as a joke.
(35:29):
And then they got fired.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
Did they give reasoning?
Speaker 3 (35:32):
Yeah, as much as they could.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
I was told it was financial, and it was. They
have signed a big contract for Kyle and Jackie are Yeah,
another ten year deal for them, which two hundred million
over ten years, and they needed to cut costs. So
you know what, it was not just me. There was
fifty other staff members that were working. And I mean,
I'm so lucky that I can jump on and do
other shows. I can jump to another network, and I
can do social media influencing and I can do whatever whatever.
(35:59):
But so many staff members that are so brilliant and
so creative but are really struggling to find work. And
it was a big blow for the whole industry, but
personally really shocked because I there's probably three four other
people at the station that have been around for as
long as I have, and I'd started at nineteen and
I was twenty nine. So I gave yeah. But also
(36:21):
like I did late nights. I did nine pm till midnight,
paid forty grand a year, five nights a week. And
then I was feeling in for Kyle and Jackie O
when they were off, so I was starting at three am.
I'd finish at nine am. I'd sleep in the car
sometimes come back in the harbor. I live so far away.
So like, I gave a lot to the network. So
(36:41):
maybe that was my blind faith, thinking, well, I won't
chop me like I'd seen so many shows get chopped. Yeah,
and I'm like, it's not gonna happen to me. I'm
friends with everyone, I'm part of the furniture, the audience
know me. Aside from Kyle and JACKIEO and the work
day host, no one had been on air at the
network as long as we all had so yeah, it
was a real shock, a shock for the management too,
to be honest, like, I think decisions are made from
(37:04):
above that made it happen.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
You shared it so beautifully. I think it was with
Brittany and Laura.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
Yeah, yeah, and you shared that really like I don't
know if you've ever watched that back or you can
watch that bad.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
I don't want to.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
It's but it is like if and when you feel ready,
it is.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
I know it's like would have felt like horrific news
to live that, but like you, you share it so
honestly and it is like sad but beautiful to watch,
if that makes sense. Yeah, thanks, and you should be
I think you should be proud of the way that
you chose to share that.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
Well, that's the other thing, like when you I didn't
realize I'd ever been let go from my own radio show,
Like how do you deal with it? And I mean
kudos to arn for letting me stay on air genuinely,
like I have. I worked on two shows before I
got my own show, and they were both canceled and
they were walked that day and they didn't to have
another goodbuye so I got to stay on for four
weeks and have a goodbye show. And I'm very grateful
(38:06):
they let me do that, so yeah, kudos to them
for letting me do that, and they let me post
that online and that was social media footage that were
filmed in their studios and they didn't have to let
all that go out. So I very much you know,
had a good run there, But it was hard. That
was just that was live, that was what we said,
that's what went to air, and we found out three
(38:26):
days before and the girls didn't know. So it's sick
and twisted that the girls the show that we had
to pick up Britt mitche Laura only ever existed as
that their co host was just pulled from them and
they had no saying it and they have to continue
on doing the show. Yeah, but they want me there.
It's we were all really gutted.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
Oh it sounds outbreaking, yeah, it literally.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
And it sounds like you like what following all three
of you on socials that you can feel the genuine
camaraderie and chemistry the three of you had too, and
I think that that's often like so hard to find
in a radio your show or a great pod or
you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
And I think that like what the.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
Three of you had, Like I hope you guys will
do stuff together.
Speaker 3 (39:07):
Yeah we will. Yeah, Well I'm em seeing BRIT's wedding
in a couple of months, so that's that's private, but
I'll instagram live it if you want to watch it.
But like just but also there's like you know, Kim,
people are dying. Like it's not that it's in the
big scheme of things. I'm fine, It's all good and
actually probably needed to happen. Like I'm lazy in my
bones and I got I was not complacent. I did
(39:30):
two shows every day. I was exhausted, but like I
wasn't doing anything else. I wasn't following the comedy dreams
or the improm or the stand up or the acting.
So the universe has ways of like pushing you out
of your comfort zone. And you know, if I had
never left, if I'd never been pushed out, I would
never have left.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
Totally, totally, totally, totally well then far out. Not to
get hippie on you, but like maybe like this is
all and if and when you go and train in La,
I've got the best acting coach for you.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
I would genuinely love it. I really would love her.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
Yeah, I'm going to say in recently, I'm going to
send it to you. She teaches freedom as an actor. Wow,
and so like if you're doing a script, whether it's
heavy light media like comedy, she'll just be like I
need to feel Mitch in it like and teaches you
how to bring you without you being like, well, this
is my interpretation of.
Speaker 3 (40:24):
Good because that's where acting loses me. And that's a
Atlantic Theater company, which is, oh my god, it's a
whole thing. It's Mammett like David Mammett and William H.
Macy co owns the school. So it's it's very intention based,
like you need an intention on an intention, Like what's
your intention? I don't know, but fucking tension headache, Like
it's it's intense. It didn't really work for me in
that sense.
Speaker 1 (40:44):
Oh no, no, you love this teacher teaches like Sam
Rockwell and like it's all it's a little bit more miisonery.
So you learn by wrote, you learn by wrote, and
then you literally do all the work, chuck it away
and then just show up.
Speaker 3 (40:57):
Yeah. I love that.
Speaker 1 (40:57):
And she's an on set acting coach, so nose like
but we'll talk often between directors and actors. Oh, so
you as a student get to just learn this skill
of like what the prep I get to do in
the trailer? How much like how much time do I
get to reset when everyone's talking in video village and
going to give me feedback?
Speaker 2 (41:16):
And I'm I going to get that? Like it's so
fascinating you.
Speaker 3 (41:19):
Kind of don't even really think that that's what happens.
Like that, there can be acting coaches like that. Some
of the biggest actors in the world will have people
there for them, right.
Speaker 2 (41:26):
Yeah, And sometimes shows will bring on coaches.
Speaker 3 (41:29):
Is that like a red flag? Like, hey, we've brought
this coach on. We think you need it.
Speaker 1 (41:32):
No, no, no, I think it'll just be like sometimes
big budgets and we'll be like, all right, we want
to have a coach that can speak between director and
actors and like bridge that gap. Because some directors you
would know this for sure, but some directors are like
actors directors. They'll be like, Mitch, I love what you're
doing here, can you just give it a little bit
(41:52):
more like to persuade or whatever, like change the verb,
you know what I mean? Like, Whereas like some will
just be like, give you the weirdest note and you're.
Speaker 2 (42:01):
Like, the fuck do they work with that?
Speaker 3 (42:03):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (42:04):
So I'm excited for this next phase.
Speaker 3 (42:07):
Yeah me too. Let's talk because I really want I've
I've got time on my hands, and I'm thinking a
trip to LA would be amazing. Well, replacing the world.
Speaker 2 (42:15):
Really do you love about it?
Speaker 3 (42:17):
Place in the world. I've been then nine ten times,
like just traveling. What I love about it? I'm like
an entertainment kid. I love the Hollywood of it all. Yeah,
I also love the hills. There's something about the hills
that are Like when the La fires happened, I was like,
really really upset.
Speaker 2 (42:33):
Because I was living that. That was wild.
Speaker 3 (42:35):
Yeah not so yeah, my god, your poor thing, But like,
are you in the hills? Where are you?
Speaker 2 (42:39):
Base of the hills?
Speaker 1 (42:40):
So we we've got a rooftop and we could see
the Pacific Palisades from one side and Pasaden and from
the other. And I went up at sunrise and the
sky was black and orange.
Speaker 2 (42:50):
It was mental. But yeah, I imagine.
Speaker 1 (42:52):
If you've got an affiliation with LA you would have
felt that. And it had a huge effect on the
entertainment industry when it happened, but it.
Speaker 2 (42:59):
Was is yeah, just such a beast.
Speaker 1 (43:02):
But I think also you if you love La and
these are your dreams, and not that I'm here to
coach you, by the way, please do but like you
can like get.
Speaker 2 (43:12):
On all those sets like you're Jimmy Kimmel taping.
Speaker 3 (43:14):
Oh trust me, okay, I'll get my punch cut out.
Been to Kimmel twice, I've been to Conan four times.
I've never seen Jimmy fallon neither of I so hard
and such a small theater. I've been in the theater,
I've been to the SNL theater. I've seen whoever. I've
never seen Colbert. I never seen let him and miss him.
He wasn't my time. That's sad. But the SNL of
(43:36):
it all is also another aspect. Like grew up watching
SNL thinking like this is it? Like this is so cool.
There's so much talent in Australia for there to be
a sketch comedy show. That's another discussion about why that
wouldn't work or couldn't work. I think Tall Poppy really
fucks creatives in this country.
Speaker 2 (43:53):
Americans literally don't know what it means. It's like tall poppy.
Oh my god, poppy.
Speaker 3 (43:58):
Yeah. I interviewed Will not will On Nett from Oh God,
what's he? And he's in a stand show on stan
I'll think of his name. He was at the Logis
for whatever reason with Darcy Cardon, who's comedian and she
actress's free from and I'm like, oh god, guys, like,
what's it? What's it like being at the Logis? It's
(44:19):
so shit compared to the Emmy's like having a laugh,
like it's so Darrow and morell Bogan And she was
like can you stop for a second. She's like, dude,
like we've learned this new phrase tall poppy.
Speaker 2 (44:28):
Yeah, this is cool.
Speaker 3 (44:29):
You've got a red carp Like was like, shut up,
you know, like they even they hate the concept, like
what is wrong with you? Why do you punch down?
Speaker 2 (44:36):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (44:37):
And that's what I think as well, Like I love
that you've got this like humble side of you, but
I think you've also got to celebrate yourself. You've done
so much. You've already lived a career that people would
dream of having, and now it's like you're only twenty nine.
Speaker 2 (44:51):
How cool?
Speaker 3 (44:52):
But I yeah, I know I'm dating a twenty two
year old. So I'm like, fuck old, you know, I'm.
Speaker 1 (44:57):
Yeah, Oh please please I can if I as your elder,
Oh god, enjoy like so fun and so much shit
happens in your thirties, like so much cool shit, and
you figure out who you are and you like, like
it's it's just like you know your values and morals
(45:19):
so well that you figure out what you're willing to
bend and flex on, and then you'll figure out what
you're willing to say no to yes. And I think,
like for you as a stand up that's going to
be really important.
Speaker 3 (45:29):
I agree. Yeah. Do you want to hear the title
of the show, yes, all right, So it's Radio Killed
the Radio Star. Amazing great title, right, great, And it's
everything that happened in ten years of hosting the commercial
radio show. It's the stuff that it's wild. Like I
just posted this clip to TikTok. You probably haven't seen.
I'll send it to you. Yeah, but it's when I
interviewed Miley cyrul No.
Speaker 2 (45:48):
I watched it. That was my next question and I
let her.
Speaker 3 (45:49):
Into the Zoom interview early and you sneak snapchat my
family like batchat to Miley, and she said and it's real.
She just sits there. She's like, helloy voice like a
frog and U but like there are so many moments
like that. But like I've got I can see it
in my head. You got the audio visual. Yeah, I've
got this whole bit that celebrities just could not, for
(46:10):
the life of them, get my name right, Katy Perry,
and you get things called id's in the radio industry,
which is like, you know, they say your name hates
Katy Perry and I'm I'm with Lola Perry failing. So
she set it through and she's like, hey, I'm Katy
Perry and I'm with my good friend Mitch churreal like
just gets my name so confidently wrong. My good friend
Mitch Churrel Kate Miller Hyde Kid did one in the
(46:32):
last few months, and she thought I was a radio duo.
She's like, good, ay, I'm with my good pal, good
pals Mitch and chury No, like a wacky radio duo
Mitch and chury No. Yeah. I've got so many of
visible audiographs, so you know I can. It's just a
lot there.
Speaker 2 (46:48):
I have to say. I watched the full Miley interview.
Oh yeah, like you are such.
Speaker 1 (46:53):
A natural at just like ver nice, you meet people
and you order madly. I felt like it made me
think two things about you. One you must research. So
when you tell me you're complacent, I think that's BS.
I think that's the humble, weird thing coming from talking
down thing. No, that is like, and you can meet
(47:15):
people really like, you meet them where they are, and
I think that's probably through being an incredible radio host
and pod host and all of that. And I think
the combo of that and obviously you don't being a comic.
Speaker 2 (47:28):
You don't take yourself seriously.
Speaker 1 (47:30):
Yeah, any kind of fire it kind of negates it
straight away as well.
Speaker 2 (47:35):
No, it's so.
Speaker 1 (47:36):
Fun because I loved watching that interview and I was like,
it's like Miley is, like, that'd be pretty intimidating walking
into an interview like that.
Speaker 3 (47:45):
Yeah. Yeah it was yeah from my living room too,
or from my spare room. It was the middle of COVID,
yeah as well. Yeah, the l and now I posted
to TikTok and the top comment is like, I love
how immediately disarmed she was when she realized you were gay,
because there's this moment where I'm like, these are my
boyfriend's vinyls and she goes yeah, and her energy changes.
She's like, yes you faget, Oh my god, really brutal,
(48:08):
like okay, but sure, go off, queen.
Speaker 2 (48:10):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (48:10):
But she was so much like she kind of shoulders relaxed. Yeah,
she loves the guys. It was very funny, and she like.
Speaker 1 (48:16):
Really wanted to connect. You could feel the connect and
she wouldn't like whatever you said. She would make sure
she like met you, when heard you and you know
what I mean, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (48:23):
I know what you mean. There was one other that
was really that was like that that I remember thinking, oh,
I did a good job, like I'm really proud of this,
and that was Billie Eilish. I interviewed Billy when she
was in Sydney face to face and her mum was
there and a best friend were there, and I met
her brother and it was like, she's so cool and
it was one of those interviews. It didn't the best,
like I think it's like one hundred and eighty million views,
Oh my god, something ridiculous, like on YouTube somewhere and
(48:45):
it gets ripped by everyone like that. All the fan
accounts steal it so it would be everywhere. But it
was one of those interviews that did really well and
I was so proud of it and it was like,
oh god, that's fun. But then to your point, like
I think, like I know I can do that. I
want to do something different.
Speaker 2 (48:59):
You know, you could look, here's one thing.
Speaker 1 (49:01):
As your elder, you can do it all, Like you
can do stand up and have a great radio show
and be working on the world's best talk show eever,
do you know.
Speaker 2 (49:11):
What I mean?
Speaker 3 (49:12):
Like, do you have a pitch for your talk show?
Do you have you have anything anything?
Speaker 1 (49:14):
Oh my goodness, I've written so many pitch pitch decks
I reckon. I probably sit more in like yeah, daytime
lifestyle a bit of like Drew Barrymore meets the non
problematic Alan, you know, like so good, light, fun, warm,
like I'm very warm all that stuff. But I but
like I nerd out over like and I know you
(49:36):
would just give me your punch card of all the
amazing shows you've been to. But I have to say,
and I know a lot of people don't like any
but seeing James Corden record live was incredible, brilliant.
Speaker 2 (49:47):
One take.
Speaker 3 (49:48):
Can I say James Corden has one fan on this earth?
It's me, me.
Speaker 1 (49:51):
Too, No, and like like in between takes we'll be like, guys,
what do you want to know? And like spent so
much time as you go to a lot where you
don't get that audience interaction some ag.
Speaker 3 (50:03):
Yeah, I think he is such an entertainer. He's really good.
And so what the guy gets a bit tired like
Jesus Christ, you would too, just two kids, you know.
I have a lot of time for James Corden. I mean,
if he's a bastard, you know, I'm sure sure, I
don't know, yes, And I'm talking about his skill set.
I think he's very very good. You know his I
(50:24):
went to James Corden twice once saw him brilliant. Second
time it was when his son was born and they
had a fill in host and they didn't announce who
it was, and I was like, this is random. Got
the ticket? Was cool? Get there it's Harry Styles. No, yeah,
it's the it's the episode that Harry Styles hosted and
he had Kendall genneron for Fill Your Guts or Spill
(50:45):
Your Guts where they did the gross ship and now
they were exites they dated. It's got millions and millions
of views and I was there in the audience and
I'm like, this is insanity that I'm here right now.
And yeah, I think I flew out that night or
it was like such a chaotic event to make it happen.
But yeah, nice sow Harry do it.
Speaker 1 (51:01):
I mean that's such a that's such a They're those
moments where you're like and I love la.
Speaker 3 (51:05):
Yeah exactly, and then you come back to Sydney and
it's like, oh god, you know, come and away on again,
you know, write the projects on love it. But it's
all the same.
Speaker 2 (51:15):
I have to ask. I could talk to you all
day long.
Speaker 1 (51:16):
But final question is somebody that like aspires to be
like you, like someone that wants to work in radio
or wants to be creative or wants to do Like,
what advice have you got because it like I think
like you do have that beautiful, like romantic story of
like I was a radio kid, I got into radio.
But like for someone now like wanting to work in
(51:37):
the entertainment industry, what would you say?
Speaker 3 (51:40):
Oh my god, I've got two answers. First answer is
post on TikTok really yeah, genuinely yes, Yeah, start posting, Okay, seriously,
don't start a podcast, just post on TikTok. And that's one.
But two is I think really try to lead with authenticity.
I think that that is like what it's the content
(52:02):
that people want on any platform like you can you
think podcasts, you think radio, TV, social media, like people
just want authenticity, right, even with acting, right, I mean
basically it's you want an authentic performance. You want to
feel like real human. I just think, like, just don't
try to be anyone, don't try to just just be
you like it's I think that is the best advice, seriously,
(52:23):
because I wasn't trying to emulate anyone in my early days.
Like you just you go in and you be you.
I think that's it. But genuinely posted TikTok because like god,
the cash that's out there for influencing and not influencing,
but just post vlog your life.
Speaker 2 (52:37):
It's bad.
Speaker 3 (52:37):
Long form content's back, baby. People want this episode in
full on YouTube. You know, people want lots of content
and just start.
Speaker 1 (52:44):
Posting all right, I love it, thank you, my friend,
and can we now be friends please?
Speaker 3 (52:50):
I think so. I think we were at the start, man,
I mean, what was this whole thing if we weren't
friends totally. I had so much fine, thank.
Speaker 2 (52:57):
You and I want to hang when you're next to
our line, I'd love.
Speaker 3 (52:59):
To Yeah, yeah, yeah, well connect, I get your number.
Speaker 2 (53:01):
We'll go to we're taping like a late show tape.
Speaker 3 (53:04):
Now we're going on a sugarfish Man and we're sitting
there until Conan O'Brien walks.
Speaker 2 (53:07):
In a little from Colin A and b Ye, thank you,
my friend, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (53:14):
That's a wrap on another episode of Fearlessly Failing. As always,
thank you to our guests, and let's continue the conversation
on Instagram.
Speaker 2 (53:25):
I'm at Yamo Lullerberry. This potty my word.
Speaker 1 (53:29):
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