July 27, 2025 • 53 mins
Monty Franklin show notes
Welcome back to the pod Monty Franklin; Aussie stand up comedian, actor, writer, producer and director. Monty was a guest on the pod a couple of years ago, you can go back and listen to that ep if you feel like it, it’s episode #390 and in that chat we talk lots about the worth ethic needed to have success in the arts here in America.
Today’s chat was about finding the balance and love for things outside of the work dream. And how taking time for yourself actually makes you clearer and more focused on your goals.
Monty is about to kick off a global tour starting in America, then off to the UK, Japan, Hong Kong, then his Aussie leg kicks off.
You can get more info about his tour here: https://www.montyfranklin.com/gigs-1
And follow him on insta here: https://www.instagram.com/montyfranklin/
Monty, you’re a good egg, look forward to the next instalment of you jumping on the pod!
Big love - Lola x
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Get A. I'm Lala Berry, nutritionist, author, actor, TV presenter,
and professional oversharer. This podcast is all about celebrating failure
because I believe it's a chance for us to learn,
grow and face our blind spots. Each week, I'll interview
a different guest about their highs as well as their lows,
(00:26):
all in a bid to inspire us to fearlessly fail.
Radio on the pod Today is a returning guest, Monte Franklin,
incredible stand up comedian, writer, actor, producer, I want to
say director too, NonStop Go get A Today. He really
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talked about the importance of balance. He's a surfer as well,
and talked about to be a really great creative or
to be a creative in general, you need to have
that thing that is like a mental and spiritual cleanse,
and for him, it's a surf trip. So it was
really cool because in the first episode or the first
pod we did together, so at three hundred and ninety,
(01:13):
he talked a lot about work ethic and what we
see is that tip of the iceberg and all the
work that has underneath it all you rarely see, whereas
this time he talked about the importance of finding balance
to be a better creative, so it was so cool.
We also got really nerdy over Elvis and movies and
(01:34):
it was so much fun talking about Australian horrors and
I learned loads today. Monty, you are welcome back on
this pod any day, my friend, to you the listener.
Literally next week he kicks off a huge global tour.
He's already started it, but he's just got this chunk
of little time now back in Los Angeles, which is
(01:57):
why we were able to record this pod. But he's
during all over America, the UK, Japan, Hong Kong, Singapore,
then Australia from November. I believe he's in Australia. I'm
going to post all of the tour dates in the
show notes so that you can grab yourself a ticket.
Monte Franklin, You're wonderful, my friend. I'm so excited for
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what's next for you, and I can't wait to do
more things with you and have you back on this
Potter Roony All right, gang, big love, hooru? How are you?
Speaker 2 (02:28):
I wish everyone Gulzia T shirt. It's an old photo
of Heath Ledger looking like a legend.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Isn't he the best episode? After he passed away. His
family set up a charity and this was, yeah, part
of it. And I have two of these because it's
my favorite T shirt in the entire world.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
I want to get one. Can I go online and
get one on it?
Speaker 1 (02:45):
I don't know if they're still there. I'll find out
for you.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
I'll find one.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Isn't he the best?
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Yeah? I still when I see pictures of him or
in movies and stuff, I feel very proud. That was
someone who made us proud. A lot of people make
Australians proud, but there's a few that you really like.
Living Newton John and you just see a smile and
you just go, oh, I miss home in that smile.
(03:09):
And he's got that look in his eyes of just
mischief and fun and person and beach and set. Like
there's a lot that goes into that that the rest
of the world probably don't resonate as much as we
do with him.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Do you remember the movie Ten Things I Had About You?
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Yeah? I watched it recently. I watched it all the time,
like on planes. You know, you just go, I want
something easy that I like, and I'll watch that quite often. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Apparently his audition, like he rolled in I don't know
if he was barefoot, but like he just rolled in
as Heath.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
I saw that. I saw the audition. It's very charismatic.
And they said that. Actually the guy said he was
the last guy who came in on the day one
of those ones, and he said as soon as Heath
walked in, he just went, oh, there he is. Yeah,
And that's what auditions are like half the time. And
if you've been on both sides of the audition, either
auditioning or being the auditioner looking for the right person,
(03:58):
as soon as they walk in, you can't know because
you feel, yeah, if you're the writer of something, you've
had someone in your head for two, three years, whatever
it is, as soon as they walk in, you're like,
there they are. If they can even open their mouth
and speak, this is it. And they do and you go, oh,
got it, so oh it's kind of cool. But then
as when you're doing those auditions and you try your
best and you learn your lines and everything, and it
(04:19):
just comes down to someone else's vision in their head,
which is also fine. It's a creative process and sometimes
that works in your favor, and it has for me sometimes.
I remember I've gone into things and then walked out
and going I don't know if I did that right,
and they went, we love you, You're good this.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
I remember I booked a big commercial job years ago
because I fit the wetsuit that they wanted and the
director wanted the wetsuit afterwards, and he was the same size.
That's why I booked, like this American in America. Yeah.
It was like a decent pain job, like thirty fifty grand,
like a big one, Oh my god. And so I
got it because I was the same size as the
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director and he wanted the wetsuit afterwards.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
That's what it comes down to.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
I got my first acting gig in a pilot at
the start of this year, like proper La and from
teaching yoga. Oh really, they came to my yoga class
and were like.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Did they come seeking you or they just came and
they went.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
And we were hanging a bit and working together a
bit at the yoga steo and then I was just
literally this friend was like, actually, you're going to be
my boss in this pilot. And then I got the
wrong I didn't audition.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Yeah, that's how a lot of things work.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
That way, right, And then You're like, is that the thing? Like,
it's so strange. La is a beast, and you, my friend,
have been here longer than me. So I want to
unpack a bit of your journey. First of all, you've
been on the pod before for the Listener, episode three
hundred and ninety, if you want to go back and
listen two years ago to the day. Pretty much, you
and I sat down together.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
I made sure of that, did you know? But I
was like, well done.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
And then a year before that, you shot, produced, wrote,
editor directed your own short, and I was an extra
in that.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
I forgot about that, right, No, I forgot that I
did that until you just mentioned that again. I told you,
I've got so many things that I feel like one
of those guys spinning the plates, you know, and trying
to keep plates up. Yeah, and then someone reminds me
of a plate over there that I've forgotten about. Oh god,
that's right.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
That we shot it in like some office in Santa Monica.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Show you the finish. It's really good. That was my filming.
Proud of what we did there. I wrote and directed,
and you know got I produced that whole thing, spent
the bit of money I don't know I probably spent
a few thousand dollars on something and then I kind
of just did it for myself. And that's the thing
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about being in this creative industry. Sometimes you think, oh, well,
I'm not getting paid, so I'm not going to do it,
or I'm not going to do that. But so what
are you really doing it for? Do you love doing
what you're doing? Because I did that because I really
enjoyed it, and I like coming up with an idea
and then thinking whether I can make that happen on
the screen and see it. And I really went in
(07:04):
with the motivation of making that because I wanted to
sit down and see if I could do it. And
I did it, and I sat and watched it and
I went, that's pretty cool, and then I forgot to
show anyone.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Do you know what else you told me when we
chatted last time. You really wanted to hone your skills
as an editor, and you were like, it was the
best way for me to like sharpen all those skills.
And then you said it's coming so handy because when
I'm in a room now and an editor's like, no, no,
we can't do it that way, You're like, well, yeah, you.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Can exactly and I can go control alt this and
go you just do that. What the hell's Yeah, that's
that's a big lesson I've learned being in LA for
twelve years, being in in entertainment industry for twenty years.
Knowing all facets of what you're doing creatively is massively beneficial.
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So don't ever think that you're wasting your time by Oh,
I don't think I need to do an improv class.
I don't need to do an editing class. I'm not
learn all of it, all of it because then the
day that you are in the room and someone questions
you and you have the knowledge and answer can answer it,
you feel you feel in control of what you're doing
a bit more, which is great.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
It's this idea of I love this idea of like
being ready as well for those those instances, and if
you constantly work on the skill.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
That's the biggest thing. And that's why you were teaching
yoga and someone said you were ready, right, So it's
about being in the right place at the right time, yes,
but also being prepared enough that when that opportunity comes
you go. You don't even hesitate, you go absolutely, let's
go let's go right now.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Have you This is going to be real nerdy theater stuff.
I'm quite a theater talk. There's a famous Hamlet quote,
the readiness is.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
All, The readiness is all.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Yeah, it actually means being always ready for death, like
living your life so that you're so like living it
that you're ready.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
That's good. I mean that sound it sounds mormond, But
all that means is live your life like it's your
last day, Like live life to the full. That's all
it really means, isn't it right? But it's a morbid
way of saying it.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
But it's a nice thing to think business wise, those
staying ready all the time, and like I think because
I would call you a slashy in the best way,
like stand up comedian, writer, director, producer, actor. You've done
a lot of acting over the years, and it's like
if you're ready for one of those things to like
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spark and got like you're being ready, as I think,
such a valuable tool to have, especially here in Los
Angeles where you're in the melting pot, so you can
get that call pretty quickly, like things can happen fast.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
I kind of like being ready in that zone too.
I like being like, I will always say that I'm
fit enough that I'm six weeks out from being in
the best shape I've ever been, you know. Yeah, So
all it would take is me being real strict with
diet and then going a bit harder at the you know,
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working out stuff, and I will be in the best
that I've ever been in my life six weeks out.
So it's always being ready so you don't have to
live your life I'm always in your best shape, because
that's ridiculous. If you see any one who competitively bodybuilds
or anything like that, they walk around not at their
best shape at all.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Ever, there's fighting weight, and then there's rate.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Wait, there's where you are sort of sitting at most
of the time. So being that way with all facets
of your life and just being ready and when the
opportunities come, knowing which ones are the ones to put
your energy and effort into, know when to go, this
is a good one. Let's put some energy into that.
And also giving yourself you also need to live. I
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did that for a lot of the years when I
was first here, thinking oh no, I can't do that.
I need to be here, and doing the stand up
clubs and holy whatever like that. But now I've realized
it's actually much more beneficial for me if I've got
the time to go on a trip. I just went
on a surfing trip to Indonesia for six weeks, right,
and my whole mentality changed. I was running on a
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much better cathartic rhythm within myself. I got some good
stories to talk about on stage, so you're not just
talking about hotel rooms and airline peanuts. You've got other
things to talk about in your life. So balance. That's
something very hard to handle and figure out, is balance.
(11:35):
But I think I've been pretty good at figuring that
out since COVID.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
I'd say, well, also, when you and I last run
into each other was the weekend and you were like,
I literally landed from Hawaii, I think that morning. I
know you'd been there back.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
At one am that night, and then came and we
went to the Australian Christmas Party on Santa Monica Pier.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
But you'd been I know you'd been touring in Hawaii
because I saw some interviews you did on like Hawaii
in television that was hilarious. But so I think you did.
You toured, you were working, but you also made sure
you had three days to like soak up a bit
of Hawaii and all that as well.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
I was excited about that because I'd just done a
run of I did Phoenix, Seattle, Portland, sanfran over to Hawaii,
right and it was one after the other each night.
I didn't have much time in each place, but I thought,
you know what, Hawaii is a good place to have
a few days. So I did and I just sort
of I went surfing and I ate some good food
(12:31):
and I did my show, but I didn't it didn't
consume me. I let life sort of exist there too.
But I think in hindsight, hawaiki ki in Hawaii is
for couples and families. So and I'm moved by mysel
Oh it is completely really that's all that were there.
And so I'm there by myself at sunset having to
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drink and there's people in love and everything, and I'm like,
that wasn't the right place spend some time.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Okay, Well, I've got a hot tip for you next
time you because I know you're a surfer. If you
do a Maldives or Maldives I don't know how to
say it trip because a lot of people go there
for surfing.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
It's two years ago.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Do Maldoves trip, right, I feel like that is romantic.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Af No, No, because I go on always surfing trip
with twelve other dudes and there is no romance.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
So you're not staying on those overwater bungalow situations.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Okay, there's two different people traveling to the Maldives, right,
it's a very honeymoon destination. I want to be on
the bungalow out on the water and be with my
beloved and then there is boats filled with surfer dudes
that just talk about surfing and eat good food and
it's the greatest thing that I do in my life. Oh,
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I love it so much.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
You stay on the boat.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
You stay on the boat for like twelve nights, let's say, right,
and they're huge boats and everyone's got their own room
and you all you do all day. You wake up,
you go surfing with the whole crew on the boat
and there's usually other people. I went this time with
about four people, five people that I knew from Australia,
but then there was two guys from Israel on there.
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There was a couple of Brazilians, you know, but everyone
shares the same collective love of surfing. So we all
just talk about surfing. And so you surf, you eat breakfast,
you talk about how that surf was, and then you
go for another surf, and then you have lunch and
you talk about that. You have a bit of a
sleep or something. Then you have an afternoon evening surf
and then you watch because they come out and film
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you all day, so then you watch the footage and
you laugh at your mate from Brazil who fell over
or you fell over, and you know, and then and
then you go to bed and you do it again.
Twelve times.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
I swam with whale sharks and I wasia h was
not on the agenda at all.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
I'm telling you, there is nothing else. Someone goes fishing
for an afternoon and you go, what do you do
that for? And they go, I don't know, I wanted
to try something different, and then you go surfing again.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Amaze.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
That's all it is. It's the funniest group of and
converse sas because if anyone came on that didn't surf,
they would have probably a terrible time because every conversation
is but surf.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
I love.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
It's so much time.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
I'm fascinated as well, if you're a creative like you
and I have talked about so many amazing products you've
had over the years, and you've been in that like hustle, go, go, go, actor, writer, produce,
all that kind of you've worn all of those hats
and being creative. I imagine having an outlet like surfing is
kind of important to fill that cup because LA can
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burn you out a little bit, very much.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
So, I mean everything can burn you out, but LA
in particular. You know what, I don't surf here in La,
So I don't like in a morning, won't get that
release or something of that because it's so hectic here, traffic, driving,
getting in the water. There's so many people this it's
not that good. You're scraunging around for waves. It actually
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took away from what you're saying. I wasn't relaxing. It's
like going to yoga class and being angry, like it
wasn't working the way that it was meant to. Yeah,
so I said to myself, you know, you don't try
and push, you don't surf, you know, like that's all right. Yeah,
you go on a couple of big surf trips a year.
When you're back in Australia, you surf and you go
to Barley and you surf, and that's fine. And when
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I lived down in San Diego, I surfed, but that
was not doing what you're saying, which is that outlet.
But going on one of these trips, I can completely
I don't even look at my phone, I don't even
worry about anything. Yeah, and I recharge the battery completely,
and that is very very important to.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Do, I think as well, because you write a lot
of your own content. Well you write your own content,
but also like you work on feature screenplays and stuff
like that. In order to have that like vessel fuck
and firing and working, I think you need that kind
of like, okay, well this is my I.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Thought about going and doing one of the Ayahuascar things, right,
it's just sort of clearing out and stuff. And I
realized I get that same thing from going on a
surf trip, and so I treat that as a mental
cleanse as. It's funny because on the first few days
I can feel myself still holding onto things. Yeah, but
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maybe I should. And then after a while you go,
I don't even care about that. You care about that
so much, And then you get back into that rhythm
and stuff. But yeah, you need those those outlets. You
need life. You need to remember to live your life.
If you're trying to be a creative running around just
fulfilling the requirements you think you meant to as a creative,
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you will be quite dull. You need to be interesting.
I want to hear your story. I want to hear
your life story. I don't want to hear about how
you paid your taxes on time and I mean also important.
Don't tell me about it. I don't to hear about it,
just do it.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
It is fascinating because last time we spoke, we talked
about like work ethic quite a bit, and like the
Iceberg method, where like the real one sees is like
ten percent of like Monty Franklin to ring, you know,
over a billion views on like talking about an EMU
war in Australia, you know, like and you see all
these kind of like super what we would deem in
(18:14):
today's very digital world of like big successes. And it's
just it's good to hear you talk about like the yes,
the need to switch off. But I want to talk
to you about like your work ethic, because I think
that you having spent a little bit of time with you.
Now I think you must have a pretty flipping phenomenal
work ethic, because a lot of Aussies do come out
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here dip the toe in the water. It's pretty hard,
it's a little bit brutal. Sometimes got a bit of
a career in Australia. It doesn't really matter. You got
to really prove yourself. But you're someone that's stuck it out.
And you gave me the advice. You were like, Lord,
stop just coming for a few months of the year
or doing half and half. You were like, you have
to lock in. You have to do the time like
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you have to.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
You have to got that, and that is there is
a lot of people that come dip the toe in
and then run back to the safety net. If you
want to come here to the belly of the beast,
you have to release the safety net and you have
to commit to being here and embracing it fully. And
that's scary, scary to give up work that you have
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back in Australia. Everything like that, and that is why
we have such a good name here in the industry
in entertainment. Everywhere you go in any facet and they go, oh,
my god, Australians are great. They have great work ethic
because we do. We have a nine to five, you know,
work rest, play mars a day, but we do. We
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grew up with that. It's a work or you also
play hard, but you also you get your sleep. And like,
we're very good at that. So the ones that come
over with that work ethic in mind and stick it
out and stay because it's not easy coming here. You
have to. It sounds ridiculous, but even just getting a
bank account is getting to social secure and getting your drivers,
(20:04):
like you have to sit your driver's license again, you
have to drive around. Fail.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
I failed my first one?
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Did you?
Speaker 1 (20:09):
They've written, my friend, I failed?
Speaker 2 (20:11):
The written well, yeah you think I know this, I've
driven and you're like, oh yeah, you do all these
things again. And so the people that don't commit and
go through with that are usually the ones that aren't
going to work. Is hard to do it. So the
ones who stick it out and stay here are very
good at what they do. And that's why we have
Margo and the Hymnsworth Boys and you Jackman it all
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like all these people that everyone goes, why are you
guys so great? And you go because it's really hard
to get over here from where we are, and so
the ones that stick it out and stay are really
fucking good.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Yeah, and it's that resilience piece as well. Have just
been like and we talked about this last time, but
like being able to drop the ego of like you
might know that you've got the skill, like you would
have had so many years behind you as an amazing
stand up. You've done shows in Australia, like you were
top of the top of your game in Australia, and
then you come here and because Americans don't know you, yep,
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like you were having to buy a ticket to go
to a comedy club before you could get the opportunity
to get on that stage.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Beer ego, beer g ego. Check. And once you can
come to terms with that and go what am I
actually again? What am I actually doing here? Do I
want to create? Do I want to make things for people?
Do I want people to love and me and indulge me?
Then go back and be on you know, farmer wants
a wife or whatever is the new love? At first
(21:33):
Farmer's site, some crap, it's being spat out, and then
go to the bird cage at the Flemington Races and
tell everyone that you're on TV. But if you want
to actually create and do things for people and stuff,
you commit to coming out here. You suck up your
ego and you get into the zeitgeist of what's going
(21:56):
on here. You meet people. This is what you met
someone at yoga class who gave you a thing. You
might meet someone at a coffee shop here who's a
very creative something and also balances out your thing. I
didn't know how to do that. Let's team up and
what do you think about that. Let's make that. Let's
make things. There's a lot of people here that want
to create and make There's also a lot of people
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that want people to look at them. So weeding out
which which side do you want to sit on? You
can be someone who just wants to be looked at,
but you're going to fall into There is a lot
of them. Do you know. There's like a it's an
actual group of people here that have been on like
the Love Island and that, this and that. They've all
been on each one three or four times because they're
(22:37):
all part of this group of Let's say there's three
hundred people walking around in la that are part of
this reality island Fuckfest show. Yeah it is.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
It's wild, yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
And they all go to the same parties and it's
weird and I don't want anything to do with that.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
No, no, no, no. Even seeing you at the Australian
in La thing, like it was so fascinating because I
was like, oh, friend, and I do you because like
it's hard. There's a lot it kind of like really
big events. I'm like, I need to find the real
I need to find the real where I know, like
I can just be. I get to be real with
(23:13):
I don't know if that makes sense. Like events, I'm
quite anxious before event.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
People think I'm antisocial and like socially inept because they, oh,
you don't know how to act around people, and I go, no,
I just I don't feel the need to go up
to everyone and go, whow what do you do it
like that. I don't feel the need anymore to do that.
I remember when I was first he thinking I had
to or I have to tell everyone what I do
so they think I'm great stuff. I don't care anymore.
(23:37):
I don't care it's not and I care about what
I do. I don't care about impressing random people, so
I don't feel the need to do it. So I'm
more than happy to sit down at an event like
that and quietly eat the food and think about if
it's nice or not, rather than needing to go around
and present yourself and sell yourself and do the thing
(23:58):
and all that sort of stuff. I don't care about
it anymore.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
But that's what's I think that's what's very refreshing about
you as a person. You're just like, this is who
I am. I'm going to do shit that makes me
feel really good as far as I lit up creatively
and take it or leave it, And I think that's
a really great.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Do you want to know something? And I don't want
this to sound arrogant, but I am confident in what
I've done and what I've got coming up that I
don't need to sell myself if someone asks me, I've
got a pretty good bloody story to tell you if
you want to know, but I don't need to go
around selling it. And so if someone comes up and says, oh,
what do you do and I say, oh, I'm a comedian,
(24:36):
and they go, oh, do you work at the local thing?
And I go no, Actually, I'm on a World Tour.
Right now, that goes like it's nice that I'm at
a point in my career where I'm proud about what
I've done that if asked about it, I actually have
a decent thing to say, and that I think that
confidence gives you ownership of yourself, of what you're doing
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and everything to sit there in silence.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
And I rounded confidence. It's not that like airy the
way we were talking about like reality stars say nothing
as reality stars like courses for courses, but like there's
a groundedness in like I've done the work, I know
my skill is there like that is few decades, yeah,
especially of a comedian, And I think it's like knowing
(25:24):
that and like trusting in yourself a bit. I also
think it comes with age. I'm thirty nine, and I
know now I give such less of a shit about
what people think of me than say, even like five
years ago.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
It's interesting, isn't it? Because it's not that I don't care.
I want you to. I want you to think highly
of me. Everyone does. Yeah, I just don't find myself
needing that gratification as much as I might have in
my twenties, or needing to know that you Yeah, I
hope they thought I was good enough. Yeah, that crowd
(25:57):
liked me enough. That's something extrinsic. Val picture is not
your thing. Anyway. When I do stand up, I know
I've done a good show. I know the audience has
felt good, and I feel good. I feel good. I
don't need afterwards to say to anyone, what did you think?
Did you like it?
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Like I don't do that anymore because I don't I know.
I know if it was a good show, yeah, I know.
If it was a bad would it was rough?
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Yeah? But that I mean, that's what is so amazing
about stand up means. I feel like every night you're
going out there, it's like.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
The instance, you instantly get a feel for how you are,
what that joke was, what that means, Like, there's instant feedback, feedback,
exactly what it is.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
In preparation with this, I watched one of your show
that you did in America and then a show you
did in Australia, because I was like, I've got to
see how you are the two different audiences, because your
content online is very much about like the differences, like
being in Australian living in America, and you made me
refall in love with the phrase stop piss fighting around.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Isn't It's such a funny fit, Like there's so many
funny phrases we casually just throw around.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Yeah, and like I had no idea that hippip hoay
was an Australian thing after we see Happy Birthday.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Yeah, but that one blew up fairly big online. And
the Brazilians do it, and a few other people do it,
but they do it in different ways. The Germans wrote
to they all right and they go we do that.
We just go hip ah, like they just do it
slightly differently. Yeah, there's all these different ones around the world.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
It would originate then.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
I don't know. I haven't gone into this. That's so fascinating,
but I'm not sure. But yeah, the you know what,
I feel like the difference sometimes with the way that
I do stand up in America and Australia. I feel
like sometimes in Australia, I'm I'm talking with a closer friend. Yeah,
(27:56):
I'm very I mean, I've been doing this for twenty
plus years. I'm very comfortable on stage. I know how
to talk with an audience and everything like that. But
when I'm in Australia, I almost feel like I'm I'm
closer and I have a more secondhand. They'd be that
shorthand a little bit yeah, and I can almost say, hey, also,
(28:18):
did you like as opposed to in America, where sometimes
I go and what you think about this is actually that,
But in Australia, it's more like get this, yes, you
know what I mean. It's a little bit more like
I'm having a beer at the pub with a friend
and talking a bit easier.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
In Australia, I had no idea about the witch's hats
thing either. That's like one of your things that's totally
blown up.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
It's so funny that we call it them witches hats
like traffic cones, but just because they look like the
hat of a witch. And the funniest is, like, you know,
builders on building sites in Australia, like, can we grab
six witches hats?
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Like totally it's just the norm, Like we would not.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
Think, yeah, you don't think that that's a weird thing.
Whipper snipper people found.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
We whack a whipper snipper. I had a big meeting
with an agent here when I first got here, and
it just fucking dragged on. It was literally like five
over five months. I had to go back in and back,
and by the end of it, I was like, I
got nothing to lose, and they go, so, you know,
what's your goal? Why are you're here? Do you want kids?
Were asking really deep questions. I might this is for
acting representation?
Speaker 2 (29:24):
Do you want kids?
Speaker 1 (29:25):
By the end? My age, by the end, I go, listen,
I'm not hit of fuck spiders, Okay, And that's what
that's how they signed me. They called me up an
hour later and they're like, Laula, we're not hit a
fox spaders. Really. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
See, that's the kind of thing that Heath Ledger walked
in and said and got him the wrong.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
Right, it's being.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Unashamably yourself and make it. Then that's interesting, and that
is that's I mean. My social media has blown up
in the last two three years.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Yeah right, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
Before that, I was like everyone trying things and all
people like this and maybe that's what will strike a chord.
And then I started doing things that I actually found
funny myself, but I thought were interesting because every day
here in America, as you know, you say something that
someone looks at you sideways and goes, what is that?
And you go, that's a very normal thing to say,
what's wrong with you? And then so I just started
(30:18):
saying them online and then people just started sharing them,
and then it started this thing. And I still liked
doing them. If I wasn't if I was doing them
at any stage, if I think, oh, I'm doing this
because I think that's what they need, it never works.
And so sometimes I'll go a couple of weeks without
doing them because I just I'm not feeling anything. But
(30:39):
then something comes and I go, ah, I'm going to
do that one. That's funny. I'm going to do one
about that. It's so good.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
Yeah, it's a lot of fun to consume your content
because it does feel like it genuinely is something that
comes from you and it's just through your life experience
and it's real.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
I've always been a very patriotic Australia and I love Australia.
I love Australian mounds, Melvis Boy, Melbury's Boy.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
But I lived on the Gold Coast, so I traveled
all around Australia doing stand up. I did the mining
camps in West Australia and the territory. I've been to
the Rock, have been everywhere, and I love our country
and our culture and what that is to me, like
I was saying, is a is a smile from Olivia
Newton John and an existence there where people there's a
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genuine care in Australia. Do you know what is the best?
I walked into a bakery and got a sandwich at
a bakery. You don't get astra in Australia. You don't
get that in America. You don't go and get a
sandwich a salad sandwich at the bakery. And the lady said,
where where are you coming from? And I said I
actually live in la And she went oh and was like, oh,
(31:51):
God's very dangerous over there. And I'm like, no, it's
all right. And then she made my sandwich and she's
asking these questions. At the end she goes, now you
take care of yourself over there in l A. Okay,
Like just some random lady at the bakery who genuinely
wanted me to take care of myself. She wasn't just
saying it. A lot of times Americans will be like,
have a nice day, I help you have a great travels. Yeah, yeah, okay,
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you just said the thing you were meant to say.
She thought about me later that day. I hope it's
okay now, you know, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (32:20):
Yeah, yeah, I do like that care it does.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
It does exist still.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
The one thing, and I know we can we can
bang on all day about American Versustraia. It's so funny
that like the amount of Americans will be like, oh
my god, as is just so dangerous. Spiders can you
play them?
Speaker 2 (32:37):
Everything that is a snake jumping out at you a spider.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
And I have lived in Byron Bay for a lot
of the time. You know, you'll have a python in
your backyard. Probs, that's super normal. Whip snakes like it's
part of it. Yeah, And like old showmates here videos
and they'll be like, I'm never, I'm never, And I'm like,
it doesn't bite you, like if you've got a cat
or dogs. Yeah, be careful.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
It is when you think about it, though. We grew
up in a dangerous place where we know. I don't
walk through the tall grass, you know, not to do
you know, not to swim in that. You know the
current is no, don't swim over there or at the
river mouth. No, there's probably sharks everywhere. We know all
these things, right, so despite the fact that there is
danger everywhere, we have an in built radar to navigate
(33:27):
through that Americans don't. So you can see from their
perspective that what do you mean, there's a jellyfish that
will keep you gets all right? Toning up north, You're
gonna be fine, and you know, we know that. They
don't know that. So for them, it is a crazy
place where everything will kill you. And the truth is
it's a crazy place where everything can kill you. It's
just we know not to step left there, step right there.
(33:48):
That's as simple as it is. Yeah, because there is
a huntsman in your roof, but you know he's not
going to hurt you. Yeah, he's going to move when
the rain goes, and he's going to be back outside.
He's not a shark at the post office like the Americans.
What shark? We can come up with fantasies in the head,
but it's not that far fetched. It's just we are
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accustomed to know where the danger is.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
Question. This is going to feel really off topic. I
every time I interview a surfer, I have to ask
have you seen sharks? When you serve.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
Absolutely I've hit a shark? Was yeah, I like to
say I punched it, but I didn't. It was an
open faced slap that one.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
Again.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
Mick Fanning did that for us, but it was similar
to the MiG Fanning thing. I was out surfing on
the Gold Coast sunset, that's when sharks I should have
gone in. It was me and an old guy. He
was about twenty twenty meters away from me, and a
shark popped up between us. And the shark was massive,
like the fin was like a foot and a half.
The shark would have been over ten feet.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
Like a white point. Do you reckon?
Speaker 2 (34:47):
Like probably a gray nurse up there. But I panicked
and went and hit the shark like a terrible slap,
and then paddled in and I looked out to the
ocean and it was flat, and I thought, I know
the old guy's been killed. I left him out there
to die. And then I looked on the beach and
he was running down the beach. He'd beat me in.
(35:07):
He was even quicker into the beach than me. I've
had another time I was surfing over Stradbroke Island, which
is like, yeah, that's.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Because it's got a bit deep near there, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
Well, it's that. And then North Stradbroke Island is a
feeding and a breeding ground yeah for sharks, so there's
tons of them. And I looked over at my mate,
who never paddles very fast. He's kind of a slower guy,
and I looked at his paddling so fast. I'm like,
what are you doing? He's just time to go.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
In Stratia, I've heard stories.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
Yeah, yeah, Strati is probably that. And like over in
Perth and then around the where the Great Australian Bite is,
there's a lot of sharks and stuff like that. But
I've seen a lot of them. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
Well, okay, one thing just on the shark thing, because
I can talk about sharks all day long, like I want.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
To get a shark tatoo, I want to get a
shark love to.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
But there is a movie that was all shot in
Queensland called Dangerous Animals. It came out about two months
ago premieric Can and all of that Australian like actors
everything as Jay Courtney is the lead psychopath and he
takes people out on shark diving tours and fees him too.
The shot. Yeah, but it's all shot like Strati, like
all in the Goldie Good.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
That'll help our reputation worldwide.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
In shark horror. But you should. You should just see
it for like you'll be like, surf there, surf there,
You'll love it.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
Oh that's great.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Jai Courtney's unreal too.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
By the way, he plays a phenomenal serial killer. Yeah,
crazy Eyes perfectly.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
We do that well in Australia, the serial killer, I mean,
Wolf Creek and everything like that. We do horror very
well in Australia. I mean the sore guys are all Australian.
A lot of people don't know that that all of
that stuff that was Blumhouse and all that is James
Wan and Lee Wenell who did Soar Yeah, which was groundbreaking,
and now they you know, they sort of have this empire.
(37:04):
But my uncle dad to tell you that my uncle
did horror films.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
Nice.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
So my uncle was a director. He did he worked
under Hitchcock, so he did Psycho two and he did
what was it? It was Road Games, I think was
one of Quentin Tarantino's favorite movies. So when my grandpa,
my uncle passed away about fifteen years ago, Quentin Tarantino
wrote a huge eulogy that we read out at the funeral.
He didn't come to the funerals in Australia, but it
(37:28):
was he was one of his favorite directors because my
uncle worked for, like I said, under Hitchcock. He did
Blue Lagoon. That was his biggest one. Not a horror,
but you probably know them.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
But so there's there was this horror in Australia, this
sort of research, a lot of resurgence that started in
the seventies and stuff. There's a really good documentary on
it called Not Quite Hollywood. It explains all about it.
And so then this other resurgence came in when Saw
came in the what do you reckon to two thousand.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
Early yeah, I would say two thousands, very early two
thousand yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
And then all these other ones came like the Babbadoo
Can and then Wolf Creek Can, all these. So we've
always done horror with it really well. What we've struggled
to do globally well is comedy, which is strange because
we are a very funny bunch of people. But comedy
we honestly bar a few other ones. And I'm sorry
(38:24):
because there's tons of them, and theah they're good. The
last really great worldwide comedy we had was Crocodile.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
Dundee, and I knew you were going to say that.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
Unfortunately, I've been to forty three states in this country.
Everyone says, oh my god, I love Crocodile Dundee, and
I'm proud of that. But I'm like, you know what,
it's time for you guys to get another taste of
the kind of comedy we should be making, the kind
of comedies that Richard Curtis makes in England, like The
Love Actually, all of those sort of romantic ones with
(38:54):
Hugh Grants and stuff like that. There is no reason
that we should not be on the same level of
comedy and intellectual humor. What happens sometimes is we fall
into the trap of bogan humor, which is very funny,
or we get two colloquial lies and do the Castle,
which we all loved, but it does not travel because
(39:15):
they don't know what scoopa down o the punt. It
means they don't know what you know Jumanji and twist
that they don't get it like we do. Okay, so
it's almost like and Captain Kim didn't work over here,
same thing, right, So there is a there is a
market in this is where I come in. So there
(39:36):
is a new you know what Tiger Wytt brought New
Zealand comedy to the world, didn't he And now everyone
loves that quirkiness and that edging fun. Right, So we
as Australians, I think it's time for us to sort
(39:58):
of not rebrand, but just a re fresher of what
Crocodile done it because if you watch that again, it
is still great. It is unreal because I'll tell you
the one reason I think that it works still is
because he knows he's full of shit. You know when
he looks at the sun and then he looks at
him watch and then he goes on it's twelve plus
thing and the smile on his face. He goes and
(40:19):
I'm full of shit. But she doesn't like it. And
so as Australians were like, yeah, that's basically whatever it
does in the country is just takes the bis and
then and so that endearing character that he brought to
the world still exists around in Australia and stuff like that.
But some people think that it's gone because politics has
(40:41):
such a big day to day in everyone's lives and
oh but with this now and with that, we're still
a great bunch of people. I'm telling you, we are
a beautiful bunch of people. And when you go home
and you and you sit and you talk with someone
at a pub and you just remember, there's some good,
kind hearted people here. The world is ready and Australia
(41:04):
is prepared to showcase our nature, our beauty and our
humor and the way that we can do it intellectually
as well. They're ready for it again.
Speaker 1 (41:18):
So yes, can you share a tiny bit about your absolute.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
I've I wrote a movie with Rob Schneider and John Clevees.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
Can you write in like Scottsdale, Arizona.
Speaker 2 (41:28):
During COVID during lockdown? And we all just bunk it
in a house together and wrote. Jim Jeffries came out
and wrote with us, and so yeah, we wrote about
the Ema war that happened in nineteen thirty two. So
for those who don't know true story, you can look
it up. Nineteen thirty two, the Australian government went to
war with the EMUs. There was twenty thousand EMUs running
through an air in Western Australia, tearing up farmers crops.
(41:51):
So the army came in with tanks and machine guns
and went to war with the EMUs and they lost.
The Emmys were too quick. They ran circles around the army,
They blew a truck trying to chase them, they jammed guns,
they made fools of themselves. So we have written what
is actually in the end a very very heartfelt, beautiful
story about a father and son really coming to terms
(42:16):
with themselves with each other, all on the backdrop of
fighting these unknowing the EMUs don't know there at war,
this unknowing enemy that is actually beating them severely and
making them look foolish. And then they kind of they
see the beauty in these animals, in this creation in
(42:36):
the land, and then change and work together with nature
and the land, and the land plays a big part too.
That's a big part about Australia that nowhere else in
the world has. Having said that, other places are pretty
exciting and different. Alaska's crazy and awesome. You know, there's
beautiful place in the world, but there's nowhere like Australia.
(42:58):
We have a different ecosystem and then anywhere else in
the world. That's why we have the first most stringent customs.
We have animals that don't exist anywhere else in the world.
That could be argued about Africa as well, but we're
talking about Australia now, so shut up. And so to
showcase that land and that has a big character in
(43:20):
the movie too, and then the EMUs do because they
inhabited that land for thousands and thousands and thousands of
years well before any of us and stuff. So there's
a beauty to that. And then so yeah, the Great
Emy War that we are filming in Australia next year
is going to and I used to say I hope
(43:40):
he's going to and now I've changed it too, is
going to give the world that beauty, that charm, that humor,
that that fun that they got from Crocodile Dundee, that
they got from Babe, that they got from Happy Feet.
Was it made in Australia. No, these film loved And
(44:02):
what Steve Irwin was in Happy Feet, Yeah, of course
he was, he had Happy Feet. But what Heath Ledger brought,
well that again to bring to the forefront of everyone,
for the world to fall in love with again and
for Australians to be very proud of again. So it's
very exciting.
Speaker 1 (44:22):
Yeah, it's going to be unreal. Yeah, it's going to
be so good. I'm really proud of you. Thank you,
and I'm so excited for you. I can't wait for
We'll have to do another pod. Oh definitely, and give
me updates along the way. I'm so pumped.
Speaker 2 (44:34):
Oh well, we'll let you know for sure.
Speaker 1 (44:36):
It's going to be unreal. And you're doing it. You're
doing the thing, which I love. Can we talk now
about your global domination as far as your world tour?
Like when we caught up on the weekend, we were
talking about that, We're talking about your movie. Then we
were talking about the pod and and I was like, yeah,
of course I come on back like love having you
on the pod, and You're like yeah, so it's got
(44:56):
to happen in the next week.
Speaker 2 (44:58):
What do you mean?
Speaker 1 (45:00):
What do you mean? And You're like, well, I start
doing and I went on your website. You literally start
during is it like the first of August.
Speaker 2 (45:07):
I've been touring. Yeah, but I'm doing the US and
so this is how it works. I start the shows
in comedy clubs and by the time I get to
Australia back in the thing, I do the big theaters.
So it's like a build up of bigger and bigger
and bigger and bigger till you get to the big
theaters in Australia. And so I've been the last couple
(45:27):
of months like San Diego, Chicago, Denver, all the big ones.
And then I've got a week off now in La
so I'm just sort of doing the pod. Yeah, and
then you know, hanging out with my sister and my
niece and nephew and stuff and doing that. And then
I go back. I do Canada, and then I do
the East Coast. I do like New York, Philly, Boston,
all those sort of ones, and then I go over
(45:49):
and do UK Europe. I do about twoty this. Yeah,
I'm doing Zerich and Geneva this time. Like I don't
know why I've got Japan. I'm doing Japan for the
first time. I'm doing Bali and Thailand and Hong Kong,
Singapore and then yeah, and then I head back down
to Australia doing New Zealand for the first time. I've
never done New Zealand, so that'll be.
Speaker 1 (46:11):
It's got a huge comedy. New Zealand is like a
huge comedy. Yeah, Like some of the if you think
of some of the big oz like what we call
Oussie comedians. So many of them are Keeway's, like the
ones dominating in Australia.
Speaker 2 (46:23):
Derby in our movie too, Yes I did read that. Yeah,
so yeah, and all Tiger and all those guys I
mean New Zealand. Yeah, fantastic an Sax what I like. Yeah,
but yeah, so it is a it's a lot though,
Like I'm in Paris for the night and then I'm
in think for like I won't experience my I'll do
(46:43):
one thing in each place type thing. I'll look at
the Eiffel Tower and go there it is, and then
I'll go and do the show.
Speaker 1 (46:49):
I've got a massive crush on Mumford and Sons. You
know the band. You're a millennial, You've got the similar
age and I we went and saw them at the
Hollywood Bowl. But apparently because they true so they're touring
right now, and they tour and his whole thing is
no matter if they're in a place for just like
one night, they have to walk like they get out
and walk to like live it's the best, get the smells,
(47:11):
like get air.
Speaker 2 (47:12):
But that's why some of these cities made for that
walk cities. Amsterdam's great Copenhagen was awesome. Just walk cities.
There's ones that are La is.
Speaker 1 (47:22):
Not a walk obviously, so yeah.
Speaker 2 (47:24):
They're ones that are walk cities great, the ones that
you know if you go to and you just ask,
what's the thing I need to see? Like when I
was in Seattle. There's a mount there, a mountain called
Mount rain or sorry forgetting that wrong. Seattle people, I
called it Mount Fuji, but it's this huge mountain and
they said, yeah, you could go out there for the day.
And I go, I'm going to do that, and they go, well,
(47:45):
the best place to see it is from here. So
I went and looked at it from a distance and went,
there is great tick and it was awesome. But I
was like, all right, that's done, and so you just
got time to do one sort of thing. When I
was in Berlin, I was u there for the night,
so you know, I went, I saw the wall, I
looked at it. There it is good.
Speaker 1 (48:02):
Can I can I give you something to do? When
I know you're touring Nashville? Can I give you something
amazing to do in Nashville?
Speaker 2 (48:07):
Please?
Speaker 1 (48:08):
The Johnny Cash Museum is off the chain. I'm a
massive Johnny, but like spend some time, especially, like so
you can do it in like an hour if you want.
But the very end, not to give it away, but
like watch is there no, just watch It's like, you
know his cover of Hurt, Yeah, yeah, incredible. So you
(48:29):
like you walk out of the museum like ball pretty bad.
It's so good.
Speaker 2 (48:34):
I read somewhere or made it up that hrsor is
that so he said, all right, that's his song now,
like he actually just said that's.
Speaker 1 (48:44):
Apparently when Johnny Cash asked to cover it, he's like,
I don't know that. He's like, I'm honored, but I
don't know that this is a fit. Yeah yeah, obviously
right naturally. And apparently when he saw it, he sat
like sat down, watched the video, OKAP, and he said,
I was taken back to like my first heartbreak man,
and like, yeah, it's.
Speaker 2 (49:02):
Such a good There's not many covers that are better
for that one, for sure, the number one do you reckon?
There's a few good ones, I mean Houston.
Speaker 1 (49:11):
Yeah, yeah, this is true.
Speaker 2 (49:12):
Well I've done this before, drunken with friends, trying to
think the best color and the cover I get buy
a little help with my friends Joe Cocker is actually
better than the Beatles one, which is very rare.
Speaker 1 (49:22):
Also, like what about Can't help Falling in Love with You?
That's Elvis's. There's so many of Elvis's.
Speaker 2 (49:28):
That cover covers pretty much.
Speaker 1 (49:30):
If you do doing Memphis, are you doing anywhere else?
I was going to say Graceland. I'm obsessed with Elvis.
Speaker 2 (49:36):
We went. I went because I went and did the
show with Rob Schneider. Because I was with him, we
got to go into different parts of Graceland quality more
than the average bear. And then we did a night
show that night at Graceland. No, yeah, it was the best,
one of the best nights of my life. We got
the full Elvis thing. Is there's a you know that
(49:57):
Elvis Comeback special where he sings in front of the
big red Elvis picture of me and Rob Schnid are
standing in front of that. Because we got to We've
got to do the full thing. And I'm a huge
Elvis fan. It was unreal.
Speaker 1 (50:06):
His energy is one hundred percent still there. Not to
get hippie on you.
Speaker 2 (50:10):
No I say it. I'm not a religious person, but
I felt the presence of the Lord in that house, And.
Speaker 1 (50:17):
Did you go to his grave, like where the water
it's really something happened, do you know what was?
Speaker 2 (50:23):
Because I've been there a couple of times, to Graceland,
I love it, Yeah, but this time Lisa Marie was
there and that really took me back because I went, oh,
ship that just happened years ago. She's there and she's
part of this world, and it's a it's a very
very overwhelming experience Graceland.
Speaker 1 (50:43):
When you get to the grave in his meditation area,
something happens. Everyone just stops, like it goes.
Speaker 2 (50:48):
Quiet completely and every understands and stars and everyone stops
taking their phones.
Speaker 1 (50:53):
I just touched the ground. I was just like sitting
there like.
Speaker 2 (50:56):
I just was, Yeah, I just kind of stand and
look and what I Unfortunately, my brain goes to this
human being was so talented, so incredible, gave the world
so much, and it felt a little bit like we
let him down a little bit as people, as humanity,
(51:18):
we just kept we want more, we want another movie.
And I feel the same a little bit with Michael Jackson,
like we just want more, just keep taking from these
but you never really know the true story of everything.
But it just felt felt a little bit like that
like I felt. I almost felt like we'd let it
some him down.
Speaker 1 (51:37):
Yeah. Well he never left America.
Speaker 2 (51:39):
I never left America. The best he did was Hawaii.
Speaker 1 (51:41):
Yeah America. Yeah, yeah, no, no, no. I love that
we can bond over Elvis by the way, I am.
Speaker 2 (51:49):
Yeah, my love forever started with Elvis movies, not his music.
I used to watch them with my grandma. Clan Baker
was my fam flan bake.
Speaker 1 (51:55):
My mum had a clam bake. It's just like we're
moving out of the house. I'm having a summer clam
bake finally. So yeah, but yeah, incredible. Yeah, I could
deep dive that with you for ages. But I'm it
was so nice just to sit and chat with you
and to the listeners. All the two were info is
(52:15):
going to be in the show notes to the Aussie listeners, Chrissy,
time you're there from like November.
Speaker 2 (52:20):
All of November is Australia. So and I'm doing all
the major this the major city biggies. Yeah, you know,
but I've added Darwin, not that it's not a major one,
but I hadn't done it before.
Speaker 1 (52:31):
I feel like you've had Townsville or something. I feel
like I've seen something or there's a word that I
was like, oh, that's out of Australia. Maybe it was
a wor I don't know.
Speaker 2 (52:40):
It could have been Auckland.
Speaker 1 (52:42):
No, oh my goodness. But anyway, you're doing so much
and to the America. I know there's some amazing American
listeners on this pot as well. I'm going to pop
it all here. Do you have a favor, Go and
see Monty Franklin.
Speaker 2 (52:57):
Yeah, come and see me live. Thanks guys, thanks for
having you knowwed it.
Speaker 1 (53:01):
Yeah, that's a wrap on another episode of Fearlessly Failing.
As always, thank you to our guests, and let's continue
the conversation on Instagram. I'm at Yamo Lollerberry. This potty
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Get A. I'm Lala Berry, nutritionist, author, actor, TV presenter,
and professional oversharer. This podcast is all about celebrating failure
because I believe it's a chance for us to learn,
grow and face our blind spots. Each week, I'll interview
a different guest about their highs as well as their lows,
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all in a bid to inspire us to fearlessly fail.
Radio on the pod Today is a returning guest, Monte Franklin,
incredible stand up comedian, writer, actor, producer, I want to
say director too, NonStop Go get A Today. He really
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talked about the importance of balance. He's a surfer as well,
and talked about to be a really great creative or
to be a creative in general, you need to have
that thing that is like a mental and spiritual cleanse,
and for him, it's a surf trip. So it was
really cool because in the first episode or the first
pod we did together, so at three hundred and ninety,
(01:13):
he talked a lot about work ethic and what we
see is that tip of the iceberg and all the
work that has underneath it all you rarely see, whereas
this time he talked about the importance of finding balance
to be a better creative, so it was so cool.
We also got really nerdy over Elvis and movies and
(01:34):
it was so much fun talking about Australian horrors and
I learned loads today. Monty, you are welcome back on
this pod any day, my friend, to you the listener.
Literally next week he kicks off a huge global tour.
He's already started it, but he's just got this chunk
of little time now back in Los Angeles, which is
(01:57):
why we were able to record this pod. But he's
during all over America, the UK, Japan, Hong Kong, Singapore,
then Australia from November. I believe he's in Australia. I'm
going to post all of the tour dates in the
show notes so that you can grab yourself a ticket.
Monte Franklin, You're wonderful, my friend. I'm so excited for
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what's next for you, and I can't wait to do
more things with you and have you back on this
Potter Roony All right, gang, big love, hooru? How are you?
Speaker 2 (02:28):
I wish everyone Gulzia T shirt. It's an old photo
of Heath Ledger looking like a legend.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Isn't he the best episode? After he passed away. His
family set up a charity and this was, yeah, part
of it. And I have two of these because it's
my favorite T shirt in the entire world.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
I want to get one. Can I go online and
get one on it?
Speaker 1 (02:45):
I don't know if they're still there. I'll find out
for you.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
I'll find one.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Isn't he the best?
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Yeah? I still when I see pictures of him or
in movies and stuff, I feel very proud. That was
someone who made us proud. A lot of people make
Australians proud, but there's a few that you really like.
Living Newton John and you just see a smile and
you just go, oh, I miss home in that smile.
(03:09):
And he's got that look in his eyes of just
mischief and fun and person and beach and set. Like
there's a lot that goes into that that the rest
of the world probably don't resonate as much as we
do with him.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Do you remember the movie Ten Things I Had About You?
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Yeah? I watched it recently. I watched it all the time,
like on planes. You know, you just go, I want
something easy that I like, and I'll watch that quite often. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Apparently his audition, like he rolled in I don't know
if he was barefoot, but like he just rolled in
as Heath.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
I saw that. I saw the audition. It's very charismatic.
And they said that. Actually the guy said he was
the last guy who came in on the day one
of those ones, and he said as soon as Heath
walked in, he just went, oh, there he is. Yeah,
And that's what auditions are like half the time. And
if you've been on both sides of the audition, either
auditioning or being the auditioner looking for the right person,
(03:58):
as soon as they walk in, you can't know because
you feel, yeah, if you're the writer of something, you've
had someone in your head for two, three years, whatever
it is, as soon as they walk in, you're like,
there they are. If they can even open their mouth
and speak, this is it. And they do and you go, oh,
got it, so oh it's kind of cool. But then
as when you're doing those auditions and you try your
best and you learn your lines and everything, and it
(04:19):
just comes down to someone else's vision in their head,
which is also fine. It's a creative process and sometimes
that works in your favor, and it has for me sometimes.
I remember I've gone into things and then walked out
and going I don't know if I did that right,
and they went, we love you, You're good this.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
I remember I booked a big commercial job years ago
because I fit the wetsuit that they wanted and the
director wanted the wetsuit afterwards, and he was the same size.
That's why I booked, like this American in America. Yeah.
It was like a decent pain job, like thirty fifty grand,
like a big one, Oh my god. And so I
got it because I was the same size as the
(04:57):
director and he wanted the wetsuit afterwards.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
That's what it comes down to.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
I got my first acting gig in a pilot at
the start of this year, like proper La and from
teaching yoga. Oh really, they came to my yoga class
and were like.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Did they come seeking you or they just came and
they went.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
And we were hanging a bit and working together a
bit at the yoga steo and then I was just
literally this friend was like, actually, you're going to be
my boss in this pilot. And then I got the
wrong I didn't audition.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Yeah, that's how a lot of things work.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
That way, right, And then You're like, is that the thing? Like,
it's so strange. La is a beast, and you, my friend,
have been here longer than me. So I want to
unpack a bit of your journey. First of all, you've
been on the pod before for the Listener, episode three
hundred and ninety, if you want to go back and
listen two years ago to the day. Pretty much, you
and I sat down together.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
I made sure of that, did you know? But I
was like, well done.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
And then a year before that, you shot, produced, wrote,
editor directed your own short, and I was an extra
in that.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
I forgot about that, right, No, I forgot that I
did that until you just mentioned that again. I told you,
I've got so many things that I feel like one
of those guys spinning the plates, you know, and trying
to keep plates up. Yeah, and then someone reminds me
of a plate over there that I've forgotten about. Oh god,
that's right.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
That we shot it in like some office in Santa Monica.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Show you the finish. It's really good. That was my filming.
Proud of what we did there. I wrote and directed,
and you know got I produced that whole thing, spent
the bit of money I don't know I probably spent
a few thousand dollars on something and then I kind
of just did it for myself. And that's the thing
(06:42):
about being in this creative industry. Sometimes you think, oh, well,
I'm not getting paid, so I'm not going to do it,
or I'm not going to do that. But so what
are you really doing it for? Do you love doing
what you're doing? Because I did that because I really
enjoyed it, and I like coming up with an idea
and then thinking whether I can make that happen on
the screen and see it. And I really went in
(07:04):
with the motivation of making that because I wanted to
sit down and see if I could do it. And
I did it, and I sat and watched it and
I went, that's pretty cool, and then I forgot to
show anyone.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Do you know what else you told me when we
chatted last time. You really wanted to hone your skills
as an editor, and you were like, it was the
best way for me to like sharpen all those skills.
And then you said it's coming so handy because when
I'm in a room now and an editor's like, no, no,
we can't do it that way, You're like, well, yeah, you.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Can exactly and I can go control alt this and
go you just do that. What the hell's Yeah, that's
that's a big lesson I've learned being in LA for
twelve years, being in in entertainment industry for twenty years.
Knowing all facets of what you're doing creatively is massively beneficial.
(07:50):
So don't ever think that you're wasting your time by Oh,
I don't think I need to do an improv class.
I don't need to do an editing class. I'm not
learn all of it, all of it because then the
day that you are in the room and someone questions
you and you have the knowledge and answer can answer it,
you feel you feel in control of what you're doing
a bit more, which is great.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
It's this idea of I love this idea of like
being ready as well for those those instances, and if
you constantly work on the skill.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
That's the biggest thing. And that's why you were teaching
yoga and someone said you were ready, right, So it's
about being in the right place at the right time, yes,
but also being prepared enough that when that opportunity comes
you go. You don't even hesitate, you go absolutely, let's
go let's go right now.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Have you This is going to be real nerdy theater stuff.
I'm quite a theater talk. There's a famous Hamlet quote,
the readiness is.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
All, The readiness is all.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Yeah, it actually means being always ready for death, like
living your life so that you're so like living it
that you're ready.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
That's good. I mean that sound it sounds mormond, But
all that means is live your life like it's your
last day, Like live life to the full. That's all
it really means, isn't it right? But it's a morbid
way of saying it.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
But it's a nice thing to think business wise, those
staying ready all the time, and like I think because
I would call you a slashy in the best way,
like stand up comedian, writer, director, producer, actor. You've done
a lot of acting over the years, and it's like
if you're ready for one of those things to like
(09:24):
spark and got like you're being ready, as I think,
such a valuable tool to have, especially here in Los
Angeles where you're in the melting pot, so you can
get that call pretty quickly, like things can happen fast.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
I kind of like being ready in that zone too.
I like being like, I will always say that I'm
fit enough that I'm six weeks out from being in
the best shape I've ever been, you know. Yeah, So
all it would take is me being real strict with
diet and then going a bit harder at the you know,
(09:58):
working out stuff, and I will be in the best
that I've ever been in my life six weeks out.
So it's always being ready so you don't have to
live your life I'm always in your best shape, because
that's ridiculous. If you see any one who competitively bodybuilds
or anything like that, they walk around not at their
best shape at all.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Ever, there's fighting weight, and then there's rate.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Wait, there's where you are sort of sitting at most
of the time. So being that way with all facets
of your life and just being ready and when the
opportunities come, knowing which ones are the ones to put
your energy and effort into, know when to go, this
is a good one. Let's put some energy into that.
And also giving yourself you also need to live. I
(10:48):
did that for a lot of the years when I
was first here, thinking oh no, I can't do that.
I need to be here, and doing the stand up
clubs and holy whatever like that. But now I've realized
it's actually much more beneficial for me if I've got
the time to go on a trip. I just went
on a surfing trip to Indonesia for six weeks, right,
and my whole mentality changed. I was running on a
(11:13):
much better cathartic rhythm within myself. I got some good
stories to talk about on stage, so you're not just
talking about hotel rooms and airline peanuts. You've got other
things to talk about in your life. So balance. That's
something very hard to handle and figure out, is balance.
(11:35):
But I think I've been pretty good at figuring that
out since COVID.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
I'd say, well, also, when you and I last run
into each other was the weekend and you were like,
I literally landed from Hawaii, I think that morning. I
know you'd been there back.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
At one am that night, and then came and we
went to the Australian Christmas Party on Santa Monica Pier.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
But you'd been I know you'd been touring in Hawaii
because I saw some interviews you did on like Hawaii
in television that was hilarious. But so I think you did.
You toured, you were working, but you also made sure
you had three days to like soak up a bit
of Hawaii and all that as well.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
I was excited about that because I'd just done a
run of I did Phoenix, Seattle, Portland, sanfran over to Hawaii,
right and it was one after the other each night.
I didn't have much time in each place, but I thought,
you know what, Hawaii is a good place to have
a few days. So I did and I just sort
of I went surfing and I ate some good food
(12:31):
and I did my show, but I didn't it didn't
consume me. I let life sort of exist there too.
But I think in hindsight, hawaiki ki in Hawaii is
for couples and families. So and I'm moved by mysel
Oh it is completely really that's all that were there.
And so I'm there by myself at sunset having to
(12:54):
drink and there's people in love and everything, and I'm like,
that wasn't the right place spend some time.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Okay, Well, I've got a hot tip for you next
time you because I know you're a surfer. If you
do a Maldives or Maldives I don't know how to
say it trip because a lot of people go there
for surfing.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
It's two years ago.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Do Maldoves trip, right, I feel like that is romantic.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Af No, No, because I go on always surfing trip
with twelve other dudes and there is no romance.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
So you're not staying on those overwater bungalow situations.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Okay, there's two different people traveling to the Maldives, right,
it's a very honeymoon destination. I want to be on
the bungalow out on the water and be with my
beloved and then there is boats filled with surfer dudes
that just talk about surfing and eat good food and
it's the greatest thing that I do in my life. Oh,
(13:45):
I love it so much.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
You stay on the boat.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
You stay on the boat for like twelve nights, let's say, right,
and they're huge boats and everyone's got their own room
and you all you do all day. You wake up,
you go surfing with the whole crew on the boat
and there's usually other people. I went this time with
about four people, five people that I knew from Australia,
but then there was two guys from Israel on there.
(14:08):
There was a couple of Brazilians, you know, but everyone
shares the same collective love of surfing. So we all
just talk about surfing. And so you surf, you eat breakfast,
you talk about how that surf was, and then you
go for another surf, and then you have lunch and
you talk about that. You have a bit of a
sleep or something. Then you have an afternoon evening surf
and then you watch because they come out and film
(14:30):
you all day, so then you watch the footage and
you laugh at your mate from Brazil who fell over
or you fell over, and you know, and then and
then you go to bed and you do it again.
Twelve times.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
I swam with whale sharks and I wasia h was
not on the agenda at all.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
I'm telling you, there is nothing else. Someone goes fishing
for an afternoon and you go, what do you do
that for? And they go, I don't know, I wanted
to try something different, and then you go surfing again.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Amaze.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
That's all it is. It's the funniest group of and
converse sas because if anyone came on that didn't surf,
they would have probably a terrible time because every conversation
is but surf.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
I love.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
It's so much time.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
I'm fascinated as well, if you're a creative like you
and I have talked about so many amazing products you've
had over the years, and you've been in that like hustle, go, go, go, actor, writer, produce,
all that kind of you've worn all of those hats
and being creative. I imagine having an outlet like surfing is
kind of important to fill that cup because LA can
(15:29):
burn you out a little bit, very much.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
So, I mean everything can burn you out, but LA
in particular. You know what, I don't surf here in La,
So I don't like in a morning, won't get that
release or something of that because it's so hectic here, traffic, driving,
getting in the water. There's so many people this it's
not that good. You're scraunging around for waves. It actually
(15:54):
took away from what you're saying. I wasn't relaxing. It's
like going to yoga class and being angry, like it
wasn't working the way that it was meant to. Yeah,
so I said to myself, you know, you don't try
and push, you don't surf, you know, like that's all right. Yeah,
you go on a couple of big surf trips a year.
When you're back in Australia, you surf and you go
to Barley and you surf, and that's fine. And when
(16:15):
I lived down in San Diego, I surfed, but that
was not doing what you're saying, which is that outlet.
But going on one of these trips, I can completely
I don't even look at my phone, I don't even
worry about anything. Yeah, and I recharge the battery completely,
and that is very very important to.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Do, I think as well, because you write a lot
of your own content. Well you write your own content,
but also like you work on feature screenplays and stuff
like that. In order to have that like vessel fuck
and firing and working, I think you need that kind
of like, okay, well this is my I.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Thought about going and doing one of the Ayahuascar things, right,
it's just sort of clearing out and stuff. And I
realized I get that same thing from going on a
surf trip, and so I treat that as a mental
cleanse as. It's funny because on the first few days
I can feel myself still holding onto things. Yeah, but
(17:13):
maybe I should. And then after a while you go,
I don't even care about that. You care about that
so much, And then you get back into that rhythm
and stuff. But yeah, you need those those outlets. You
need life. You need to remember to live your life.
If you're trying to be a creative running around just
fulfilling the requirements you think you meant to as a creative,
(17:35):
you will be quite dull. You need to be interesting.
I want to hear your story. I want to hear
your life story. I don't want to hear about how
you paid your taxes on time and I mean also important.
Don't tell me about it. I don't to hear about it,
just do it.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
It is fascinating because last time we spoke, we talked
about like work ethic quite a bit, and like the
Iceberg method, where like the real one sees is like
ten percent of like Monty Franklin to ring, you know,
over a billion views on like talking about an EMU
war in Australia, you know, like and you see all
these kind of like super what we would deem in
(18:14):
today's very digital world of like big successes. And it's
just it's good to hear you talk about like the yes,
the need to switch off. But I want to talk
to you about like your work ethic, because I think
that you having spent a little bit of time with you.
Now I think you must have a pretty flipping phenomenal
work ethic, because a lot of Aussies do come out
(18:35):
here dip the toe in the water. It's pretty hard,
it's a little bit brutal. Sometimes got a bit of
a career in Australia. It doesn't really matter. You got
to really prove yourself. But you're someone that's stuck it out.
And you gave me the advice. You were like, Lord,
stop just coming for a few months of the year
or doing half and half. You were like, you have
to lock in. You have to do the time like
(18:55):
you have to.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
You have to got that, and that is there is
a lot of people that come dip the toe in
and then run back to the safety net. If you
want to come here to the belly of the beast,
you have to release the safety net and you have
to commit to being here and embracing it fully. And
that's scary, scary to give up work that you have
(19:20):
back in Australia. Everything like that, and that is why
we have such a good name here in the industry
in entertainment. Everywhere you go in any facet and they go, oh,
my god, Australians are great. They have great work ethic
because we do. We have a nine to five, you know,
work rest, play mars a day, but we do. We
(19:40):
grew up with that. It's a work or you also
play hard, but you also you get your sleep. And like,
we're very good at that. So the ones that come
over with that work ethic in mind and stick it
out and stay because it's not easy coming here. You
have to. It sounds ridiculous, but even just getting a
bank account is getting to social secure and getting your drivers,
(20:04):
like you have to sit your driver's license again, you
have to drive around. Fail.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
I failed my first one?
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Did you?
Speaker 1 (20:09):
They've written, my friend, I failed?
Speaker 2 (20:11):
The written well, yeah you think I know this, I've
driven and you're like, oh yeah, you do all these
things again. And so the people that don't commit and
go through with that are usually the ones that aren't
going to work. Is hard to do it. So the
ones who stick it out and stay here are very
good at what they do. And that's why we have
Margo and the Hymnsworth Boys and you Jackman it all
(20:33):
like all these people that everyone goes, why are you
guys so great? And you go because it's really hard
to get over here from where we are, and so
the ones that stick it out and stay are really
fucking good.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Yeah, and it's that resilience piece as well. Have just
been like and we talked about this last time, but
like being able to drop the ego of like you
might know that you've got the skill, like you would
have had so many years behind you as an amazing
stand up. You've done shows in Australia, like you were
top of the top of your game in Australia, and
then you come here and because Americans don't know you, yep,
(21:05):
like you were having to buy a ticket to go
to a comedy club before you could get the opportunity
to get on that stage.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Beer ego, beer g ego. Check. And once you can
come to terms with that and go what am I
actually again? What am I actually doing here? Do I
want to create? Do I want to make things for people?
Do I want people to love and me and indulge me?
Then go back and be on you know, farmer wants
a wife or whatever is the new love? At first
(21:33):
Farmer's site, some crap, it's being spat out, and then
go to the bird cage at the Flemington Races and
tell everyone that you're on TV. But if you want
to actually create and do things for people and stuff,
you commit to coming out here. You suck up your
ego and you get into the zeitgeist of what's going
(21:56):
on here. You meet people. This is what you met
someone at yoga class who gave you a thing. You
might meet someone at a coffee shop here who's a
very creative something and also balances out your thing. I
didn't know how to do that. Let's team up and
what do you think about that. Let's make that. Let's
make things. There's a lot of people here that want
to create and make There's also a lot of people
(22:17):
that want people to look at them. So weeding out
which which side do you want to sit on? You
can be someone who just wants to be looked at,
but you're going to fall into There is a lot
of them. Do you know. There's like a it's an
actual group of people here that have been on like
the Love Island and that, this and that. They've all
been on each one three or four times because they're
(22:37):
all part of this group of Let's say there's three
hundred people walking around in la that are part of
this reality island Fuckfest show. Yeah it is.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
It's wild, yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
And they all go to the same parties and it's
weird and I don't want anything to do with that.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
No, no, no, no. Even seeing you at the Australian
in La thing, like it was so fascinating because I
was like, oh, friend, and I do you because like
it's hard. There's a lot it kind of like really
big events. I'm like, I need to find the real
I need to find the real where I know, like
I can just be. I get to be real with
(23:13):
I don't know if that makes sense. Like events, I'm
quite anxious before event.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
People think I'm antisocial and like socially inept because they, oh,
you don't know how to act around people, and I go, no,
I just I don't feel the need to go up
to everyone and go, whow what do you do it
like that. I don't feel the need anymore to do that.
I remember when I was first he thinking I had
to or I have to tell everyone what I do
so they think I'm great stuff. I don't care anymore.
(23:37):
I don't care it's not and I care about what
I do. I don't care about impressing random people, so
I don't feel the need to do it. So I'm
more than happy to sit down at an event like
that and quietly eat the food and think about if
it's nice or not, rather than needing to go around
and present yourself and sell yourself and do the thing
(23:58):
and all that sort of stuff. I don't care about
it anymore.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
But that's what's I think that's what's very refreshing about
you as a person. You're just like, this is who
I am. I'm going to do shit that makes me
feel really good as far as I lit up creatively
and take it or leave it, And I think that's
a really great.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Do you want to know something? And I don't want
this to sound arrogant, but I am confident in what
I've done and what I've got coming up that I
don't need to sell myself if someone asks me, I've
got a pretty good bloody story to tell you if
you want to know, but I don't need to go
around selling it. And so if someone comes up and says, oh,
what do you do and I say, oh, I'm a comedian,
(24:36):
and they go, oh, do you work at the local thing?
And I go no, Actually, I'm on a World Tour.
Right now, that goes like it's nice that I'm at
a point in my career where I'm proud about what
I've done that if asked about it, I actually have
a decent thing to say, and that I think that
confidence gives you ownership of yourself, of what you're doing
(25:01):
and everything to sit there in silence.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
And I rounded confidence. It's not that like airy the
way we were talking about like reality stars say nothing
as reality stars like courses for courses, but like there's
a groundedness in like I've done the work, I know
my skill is there like that is few decades, yeah,
especially of a comedian, And I think it's like knowing
(25:24):
that and like trusting in yourself a bit. I also
think it comes with age. I'm thirty nine, and I
know now I give such less of a shit about
what people think of me than say, even like five
years ago.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
It's interesting, isn't it? Because it's not that I don't care.
I want you to. I want you to think highly
of me. Everyone does. Yeah, I just don't find myself
needing that gratification as much as I might have in
my twenties, or needing to know that you Yeah, I
hope they thought I was good enough. Yeah, that crowd
(25:57):
liked me enough. That's something extrinsic. Val picture is not
your thing. Anyway. When I do stand up, I know
I've done a good show. I know the audience has
felt good, and I feel good. I feel good. I
don't need afterwards to say to anyone, what did you think?
Did you like it?
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Like I don't do that anymore because I don't I know.
I know if it was a good show, yeah, I know.
If it was a bad would it was rough?
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Yeah? But that I mean, that's what is so amazing
about stand up means. I feel like every night you're
going out there, it's like.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
The instance, you instantly get a feel for how you are,
what that joke was, what that means, Like, there's instant feedback, feedback,
exactly what it is.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
In preparation with this, I watched one of your show
that you did in America and then a show you
did in Australia, because I was like, I've got to
see how you are the two different audiences, because your
content online is very much about like the differences, like
being in Australian living in America, and you made me
refall in love with the phrase stop piss fighting around.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Isn't It's such a funny fit, Like there's so many
funny phrases we casually just throw around.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Yeah, and like I had no idea that hippip hoay
was an Australian thing after we see Happy Birthday.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Yeah, but that one blew up fairly big online. And
the Brazilians do it, and a few other people do it,
but they do it in different ways. The Germans wrote
to they all right and they go we do that.
We just go hip ah, like they just do it
slightly differently. Yeah, there's all these different ones around the world.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
It would originate then.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
I don't know. I haven't gone into this. That's so fascinating,
but I'm not sure. But yeah, the you know what,
I feel like the difference sometimes with the way that
I do stand up in America and Australia. I feel
like sometimes in Australia, I'm I'm talking with a closer friend. Yeah,
(27:56):
I'm very I mean, I've been doing this for twenty
plus years. I'm very comfortable on stage. I know how
to talk with an audience and everything like that. But
when I'm in Australia, I almost feel like I'm I'm
closer and I have a more secondhand. They'd be that
shorthand a little bit yeah, and I can almost say, hey, also,
(28:18):
did you like as opposed to in America, where sometimes
I go and what you think about this is actually that,
But in Australia, it's more like get this, yes, you
know what I mean. It's a little bit more like
I'm having a beer at the pub with a friend
and talking a bit easier.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
In Australia, I had no idea about the witch's hats
thing either. That's like one of your things that's totally
blown up.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
It's so funny that we call it them witches hats
like traffic cones, but just because they look like the
hat of a witch. And the funniest is, like, you know,
builders on building sites in Australia, like, can we grab
six witches hats?
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Like totally it's just the norm, Like we would not.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
Think, yeah, you don't think that that's a weird thing.
Whipper snipper people found.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
We whack a whipper snipper. I had a big meeting
with an agent here when I first got here, and
it just fucking dragged on. It was literally like five
over five months. I had to go back in and back,
and by the end of it, I was like, I
got nothing to lose, and they go, so, you know,
what's your goal? Why are you're here? Do you want kids?
Were asking really deep questions. I might this is for
acting representation?
Speaker 2 (29:24):
Do you want kids?
Speaker 1 (29:25):
By the end? My age, by the end, I go, listen,
I'm not hit of fuck spiders, Okay, And that's what
that's how they signed me. They called me up an
hour later and they're like, Laula, we're not hit a
fox spaders. Really. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
See, that's the kind of thing that Heath Ledger walked
in and said and got him the wrong.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
Right, it's being.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Unashamably yourself and make it. Then that's interesting, and that
is that's I mean. My social media has blown up
in the last two three years.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Yeah right, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
Before that, I was like everyone trying things and all
people like this and maybe that's what will strike a chord.
And then I started doing things that I actually found
funny myself, but I thought were interesting because every day
here in America, as you know, you say something that
someone looks at you sideways and goes, what is that?
And you go, that's a very normal thing to say,
what's wrong with you? And then so I just started
(30:18):
saying them online and then people just started sharing them,
and then it started this thing. And I still liked
doing them. If I wasn't if I was doing them
at any stage, if I think, oh, I'm doing this
because I think that's what they need, it never works.
And so sometimes I'll go a couple of weeks without
doing them because I just I'm not feeling anything. But
(30:39):
then something comes and I go, ah, I'm going to
do that one. That's funny. I'm going to do one
about that. It's so good.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
Yeah, it's a lot of fun to consume your content
because it does feel like it genuinely is something that
comes from you and it's just through your life experience
and it's real.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
I've always been a very patriotic Australia and I love Australia.
I love Australian mounds, Melvis Boy, Melbury's Boy.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
But I lived on the Gold Coast, so I traveled
all around Australia doing stand up. I did the mining
camps in West Australia and the territory. I've been to
the Rock, have been everywhere, and I love our country
and our culture and what that is to me, like
I was saying, is a is a smile from Olivia
Newton John and an existence there where people there's a
(31:29):
genuine care in Australia. Do you know what is the best?
I walked into a bakery and got a sandwich at
a bakery. You don't get astra in Australia. You don't
get that in America. You don't go and get a
sandwich a salad sandwich at the bakery. And the lady said,
where where are you coming from? And I said I
actually live in la And she went oh and was like, oh,
(31:51):
God's very dangerous over there. And I'm like, no, it's
all right. And then she made my sandwich and she's
asking these questions. At the end she goes, now you
take care of yourself over there in l A. Okay,
Like just some random lady at the bakery who genuinely
wanted me to take care of myself. She wasn't just
saying it. A lot of times Americans will be like,
have a nice day, I help you have a great travels. Yeah, yeah, okay,
(32:14):
you just said the thing you were meant to say.
She thought about me later that day. I hope it's
okay now, you know, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (32:20):
Yeah, yeah, I do like that care it does.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
It does exist still.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
The one thing, and I know we can we can
bang on all day about American Versustraia. It's so funny
that like the amount of Americans will be like, oh
my god, as is just so dangerous. Spiders can you
play them?
Speaker 2 (32:37):
Everything that is a snake jumping out at you a spider.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
And I have lived in Byron Bay for a lot
of the time. You know, you'll have a python in
your backyard. Probs, that's super normal. Whip snakes like it's
part of it. Yeah, And like old showmates here videos
and they'll be like, I'm never, I'm never, And I'm like,
it doesn't bite you, like if you've got a cat
or dogs. Yeah, be careful.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
It is when you think about it, though. We grew
up in a dangerous place where we know. I don't
walk through the tall grass, you know, not to do
you know, not to swim in that. You know the
current is no, don't swim over there or at the
river mouth. No, there's probably sharks everywhere. We know all
these things, right, so despite the fact that there is
danger everywhere, we have an in built radar to navigate
(33:27):
through that Americans don't. So you can see from their
perspective that what do you mean, there's a jellyfish that
will keep you gets all right? Toning up north, You're
gonna be fine, and you know, we know that. They
don't know that. So for them, it is a crazy
place where everything will kill you. And the truth is
it's a crazy place where everything can kill you. It's
just we know not to step left there, step right there.
(33:48):
That's as simple as it is. Yeah, because there is
a huntsman in your roof, but you know he's not
going to hurt you. Yeah, he's going to move when
the rain goes, and he's going to be back outside.
He's not a shark at the post office like the Americans.
What shark? We can come up with fantasies in the head,
but it's not that far fetched. It's just we are
(34:11):
accustomed to know where the danger is.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
Question. This is going to feel really off topic. I
every time I interview a surfer, I have to ask
have you seen sharks? When you serve.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
Absolutely I've hit a shark? Was yeah, I like to
say I punched it, but I didn't. It was an
open faced slap that one.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
Again.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
Mick Fanning did that for us, but it was similar
to the MiG Fanning thing. I was out surfing on
the Gold Coast sunset, that's when sharks I should have
gone in. It was me and an old guy. He
was about twenty twenty meters away from me, and a
shark popped up between us. And the shark was massive,
like the fin was like a foot and a half.
The shark would have been over ten feet.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
Like a white point. Do you reckon?
Speaker 2 (34:47):
Like probably a gray nurse up there. But I panicked
and went and hit the shark like a terrible slap,
and then paddled in and I looked out to the
ocean and it was flat, and I thought, I know
the old guy's been killed. I left him out there
to die. And then I looked on the beach and
he was running down the beach. He'd beat me in.
(35:07):
He was even quicker into the beach than me. I've
had another time I was surfing over Stradbroke Island, which
is like, yeah, that's.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Because it's got a bit deep near there, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
Well, it's that. And then North Stradbroke Island is a
feeding and a breeding ground yeah for sharks, so there's
tons of them. And I looked over at my mate,
who never paddles very fast. He's kind of a slower guy,
and I looked at his paddling so fast. I'm like,
what are you doing? He's just time to go.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
In Stratia, I've heard stories.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
Yeah, yeah, Strati is probably that. And like over in
Perth and then around the where the Great Australian Bite is,
there's a lot of sharks and stuff like that. But
I've seen a lot of them. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
Well, okay, one thing just on the shark thing, because
I can talk about sharks all day long, like I want.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
To get a shark tatoo, I want to get a
shark love to.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
But there is a movie that was all shot in
Queensland called Dangerous Animals. It came out about two months
ago premieric Can and all of that Australian like actors
everything as Jay Courtney is the lead psychopath and he
takes people out on shark diving tours and fees him too.
The shot. Yeah, but it's all shot like Strati, like
all in the Goldie Good.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
That'll help our reputation worldwide.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
In shark horror. But you should. You should just see
it for like you'll be like, surf there, surf there,
You'll love it.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
Oh that's great.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Jai Courtney's unreal too.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
By the way, he plays a phenomenal serial killer. Yeah,
crazy Eyes perfectly.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
We do that well in Australia, the serial killer, I mean,
Wolf Creek and everything like that. We do horror very
well in Australia. I mean the sore guys are all Australian.
A lot of people don't know that that all of
that stuff that was Blumhouse and all that is James
Wan and Lee Wenell who did Soar Yeah, which was groundbreaking,
and now they you know, they sort of have this empire.
(37:04):
But my uncle dad to tell you that my uncle
did horror films.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
Nice.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
So my uncle was a director. He did he worked
under Hitchcock, so he did Psycho two and he did
what was it? It was Road Games, I think was
one of Quentin Tarantino's favorite movies. So when my grandpa,
my uncle passed away about fifteen years ago, Quentin Tarantino
wrote a huge eulogy that we read out at the funeral.
He didn't come to the funerals in Australia, but it
(37:28):
was he was one of his favorite directors because my
uncle worked for, like I said, under Hitchcock. He did
Blue Lagoon. That was his biggest one. Not a horror,
but you probably know them.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
But so there's there was this horror in Australia, this
sort of research, a lot of resurgence that started in
the seventies and stuff. There's a really good documentary on
it called Not Quite Hollywood. It explains all about it.
And so then this other resurgence came in when Saw
came in the what do you reckon to two thousand.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
Early yeah, I would say two thousands, very early two
thousand yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
And then all these other ones came like the Babbadoo
Can and then Wolf Creek Can, all these. So we've
always done horror with it really well. What we've struggled
to do globally well is comedy, which is strange because
we are a very funny bunch of people. But comedy
we honestly bar a few other ones. And I'm sorry
(38:24):
because there's tons of them, and theah they're good. The
last really great worldwide comedy we had was Crocodile.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
Dundee, and I knew you were going to say that.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
Unfortunately, I've been to forty three states in this country.
Everyone says, oh my god, I love Crocodile Dundee, and
I'm proud of that. But I'm like, you know what,
it's time for you guys to get another taste of
the kind of comedy we should be making, the kind
of comedies that Richard Curtis makes in England, like The
Love Actually, all of those sort of romantic ones with
(38:54):
Hugh Grants and stuff like that. There is no reason
that we should not be on the same level of
comedy and intellectual humor. What happens sometimes is we fall
into the trap of bogan humor, which is very funny,
or we get two colloquial lies and do the Castle,
which we all loved, but it does not travel because
(39:15):
they don't know what scoopa down o the punt. It
means they don't know what you know Jumanji and twist
that they don't get it like we do. Okay, so
it's almost like and Captain Kim didn't work over here,
same thing, right, So there is a there is a
market in this is where I come in. So there
(39:36):
is a new you know what Tiger Wytt brought New
Zealand comedy to the world, didn't he And now everyone
loves that quirkiness and that edging fun. Right, So we
as Australians, I think it's time for us to sort
(39:58):
of not rebrand, but just a re fresher of what
Crocodile done it because if you watch that again, it
is still great. It is unreal because I'll tell you
the one reason I think that it works still is
because he knows he's full of shit. You know when
he looks at the sun and then he looks at
him watch and then he goes on it's twelve plus
thing and the smile on his face. He goes and
(40:19):
I'm full of shit. But she doesn't like it. And
so as Australians were like, yeah, that's basically whatever it
does in the country is just takes the bis and
then and so that endearing character that he brought to
the world still exists around in Australia and stuff like that.
But some people think that it's gone because politics has
(40:41):
such a big day to day in everyone's lives and
oh but with this now and with that, we're still
a great bunch of people. I'm telling you, we are
a beautiful bunch of people. And when you go home
and you and you sit and you talk with someone
at a pub and you just remember, there's some good,
kind hearted people here. The world is ready and Australia
(41:04):
is prepared to showcase our nature, our beauty and our
humor and the way that we can do it intellectually
as well. They're ready for it again.
Speaker 1 (41:18):
So yes, can you share a tiny bit about your absolute.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
I've I wrote a movie with Rob Schneider and John Clevees.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
Can you write in like Scottsdale, Arizona.
Speaker 2 (41:28):
During COVID during lockdown? And we all just bunk it
in a house together and wrote. Jim Jeffries came out
and wrote with us, and so yeah, we wrote about
the Ema war that happened in nineteen thirty two. So
for those who don't know true story, you can look
it up. Nineteen thirty two, the Australian government went to
war with the EMUs. There was twenty thousand EMUs running
through an air in Western Australia, tearing up farmers crops.
(41:51):
So the army came in with tanks and machine guns
and went to war with the EMUs and they lost.
The Emmys were too quick. They ran circles around the army,
They blew a truck trying to chase them, they jammed guns,
they made fools of themselves. So we have written what
is actually in the end a very very heartfelt, beautiful
story about a father and son really coming to terms
(42:16):
with themselves with each other, all on the backdrop of
fighting these unknowing the EMUs don't know there at war,
this unknowing enemy that is actually beating them severely and
making them look foolish. And then they kind of they
see the beauty in these animals, in this creation in
(42:36):
the land, and then change and work together with nature
and the land, and the land plays a big part too.
That's a big part about Australia that nowhere else in
the world has. Having said that, other places are pretty
exciting and different. Alaska's crazy and awesome. You know, there's
beautiful place in the world, but there's nowhere like Australia.
(42:58):
We have a different ecosystem and then anywhere else in
the world. That's why we have the first most stringent customs.
We have animals that don't exist anywhere else in the world.
That could be argued about Africa as well, but we're
talking about Australia now, so shut up. And so to
showcase that land and that has a big character in
(43:20):
the movie too, and then the EMUs do because they
inhabited that land for thousands and thousands and thousands of
years well before any of us and stuff. So there's
a beauty to that. And then so yeah, the Great
Emy War that we are filming in Australia next year
is going to and I used to say I hope
(43:40):
he's going to and now I've changed it too, is
going to give the world that beauty, that charm, that humor,
that that fun that they got from Crocodile Dundee, that
they got from Babe, that they got from Happy Feet.
Was it made in Australia. No, these film loved And
(44:02):
what Steve Irwin was in Happy Feet, Yeah, of course
he was, he had Happy Feet. But what Heath Ledger brought,
well that again to bring to the forefront of everyone,
for the world to fall in love with again and
for Australians to be very proud of again. So it's
very exciting.
Speaker 1 (44:22):
Yeah, it's going to be unreal. Yeah, it's going to
be so good. I'm really proud of you. Thank you,
and I'm so excited for you. I can't wait for
We'll have to do another pod. Oh definitely, and give
me updates along the way. I'm so pumped.
Speaker 2 (44:34):
Oh well, we'll let you know for sure.
Speaker 1 (44:36):
It's going to be unreal. And you're doing it. You're
doing the thing, which I love. Can we talk now
about your global domination as far as your world tour?
Like when we caught up on the weekend, we were
talking about that, We're talking about your movie. Then we
were talking about the pod and and I was like, yeah,
of course I come on back like love having you
on the pod, and You're like yeah, so it's got
(44:56):
to happen in the next week.
Speaker 2 (44:58):
What do you mean?
Speaker 1 (45:00):
What do you mean? And You're like, well, I start
doing and I went on your website. You literally start
during is it like the first of August.
Speaker 2 (45:07):
I've been touring. Yeah, but I'm doing the US and
so this is how it works. I start the shows
in comedy clubs and by the time I get to
Australia back in the thing, I do the big theaters.
So it's like a build up of bigger and bigger
and bigger and bigger till you get to the big
theaters in Australia. And so I've been the last couple
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of months like San Diego, Chicago, Denver, all the big ones.
And then I've got a week off now in La
so I'm just sort of doing the pod. Yeah, and
then you know, hanging out with my sister and my
niece and nephew and stuff and doing that. And then
I go back. I do Canada, and then I do
the East Coast. I do like New York, Philly, Boston,
all those sort of ones, and then I go over
(45:49):
and do UK Europe. I do about twoty this. Yeah,
I'm doing Zerich and Geneva this time. Like I don't
know why I've got Japan. I'm doing Japan for the
first time. I'm doing Bali and Thailand and Hong Kong,
Singapore and then yeah, and then I head back down
to Australia doing New Zealand for the first time. I've
never done New Zealand, so that'll be.
Speaker 1 (46:11):
It's got a huge comedy. New Zealand is like a
huge comedy. Yeah, Like some of the if you think
of some of the big oz like what we call
Oussie comedians. So many of them are Keeway's, like the
ones dominating in Australia.
Speaker 2 (46:23):
Derby in our movie too, Yes I did read that. Yeah,
so yeah, and all Tiger and all those guys I
mean New Zealand. Yeah, fantastic an Sax what I like. Yeah,
but yeah, so it is a it's a lot though,
Like I'm in Paris for the night and then I'm
in think for like I won't experience my I'll do
(46:43):
one thing in each place type thing. I'll look at
the Eiffel Tower and go there it is, and then
I'll go and do the show.
Speaker 1 (46:49):
I've got a massive crush on Mumford and Sons. You
know the band. You're a millennial, You've got the similar
age and I we went and saw them at the
Hollywood Bowl. But apparently because they true so they're touring
right now, and they tour and his whole thing is
no matter if they're in a place for just like
one night, they have to walk like they get out
and walk to like live it's the best, get the smells,
(47:11):
like get air.
Speaker 2 (47:12):
But that's why some of these cities made for that
walk cities. Amsterdam's great Copenhagen was awesome. Just walk cities.
There's ones that are La is.
Speaker 1 (47:22):
Not a walk obviously, so yeah.
Speaker 2 (47:24):
They're ones that are walk cities great, the ones that
you know if you go to and you just ask,
what's the thing I need to see? Like when I
was in Seattle. There's a mount there, a mountain called
Mount rain or sorry forgetting that wrong. Seattle people, I
called it Mount Fuji, but it's this huge mountain and
they said, yeah, you could go out there for the day.
And I go, I'm going to do that, and they go, well,
(47:45):
the best place to see it is from here. So
I went and looked at it from a distance and went,
there is great tick and it was awesome. But I
was like, all right, that's done, and so you just
got time to do one sort of thing. When I
was in Berlin, I was u there for the night,
so you know, I went, I saw the wall, I
looked at it. There it is good.
Speaker 1 (48:02):
Can I can I give you something to do? When
I know you're touring Nashville? Can I give you something
amazing to do in Nashville?
Speaker 2 (48:07):
Please?
Speaker 1 (48:08):
The Johnny Cash Museum is off the chain. I'm a
massive Johnny, but like spend some time, especially, like so
you can do it in like an hour if you want.
But the very end, not to give it away, but
like watch is there no, just watch It's like, you
know his cover of Hurt, Yeah, yeah, incredible. So you
(48:29):
like you walk out of the museum like ball pretty bad.
It's so good.
Speaker 2 (48:34):
I read somewhere or made it up that hrsor is
that so he said, all right, that's his song now,
like he actually just said that's.
Speaker 1 (48:44):
Apparently when Johnny Cash asked to cover it, he's like,
I don't know that. He's like, I'm honored, but I
don't know that this is a fit. Yeah yeah, obviously
right naturally. And apparently when he saw it, he sat
like sat down, watched the video, OKAP, and he said,
I was taken back to like my first heartbreak man,
and like, yeah, it's.
Speaker 2 (49:02):
Such a good There's not many covers that are better
for that one, for sure, the number one do you reckon?
There's a few good ones, I mean Houston.
Speaker 1 (49:11):
Yeah, yeah, this is true.
Speaker 2 (49:12):
Well I've done this before, drunken with friends, trying to
think the best color and the cover I get buy
a little help with my friends Joe Cocker is actually
better than the Beatles one, which is very rare.
Speaker 1 (49:22):
Also, like what about Can't help Falling in Love with You?
That's Elvis's. There's so many of Elvis's.
Speaker 2 (49:28):
That cover covers pretty much.
Speaker 1 (49:30):
If you do doing Memphis, are you doing anywhere else?
I was going to say Graceland. I'm obsessed with Elvis.
Speaker 2 (49:36):
We went. I went because I went and did the
show with Rob Schneider. Because I was with him, we
got to go into different parts of Graceland quality more
than the average bear. And then we did a night
show that night at Graceland. No, yeah, it was the best,
one of the best nights of my life. We got
the full Elvis thing. Is there's a you know that
(49:57):
Elvis Comeback special where he sings in front of the
big red Elvis picture of me and Rob Schnid are
standing in front of that. Because we got to We've
got to do the full thing. And I'm a huge
Elvis fan. It was unreal.
Speaker 1 (50:06):
His energy is one hundred percent still there. Not to
get hippie on you.
Speaker 2 (50:10):
No I say it. I'm not a religious person, but
I felt the presence of the Lord in that house, And.
Speaker 1 (50:17):
Did you go to his grave, like where the water
it's really something happened, do you know what was?
Speaker 2 (50:23):
Because I've been there a couple of times, to Graceland,
I love it, Yeah, but this time Lisa Marie was
there and that really took me back because I went, oh,
ship that just happened years ago. She's there and she's
part of this world, and it's a it's a very
very overwhelming experience Graceland.
Speaker 1 (50:43):
When you get to the grave in his meditation area,
something happens. Everyone just stops, like it goes.
Speaker 2 (50:48):
Quiet completely and every understands and stars and everyone stops
taking their phones.
Speaker 1 (50:53):
I just touched the ground. I was just like sitting
there like.
Speaker 2 (50:56):
I just was, Yeah, I just kind of stand and
look and what I Unfortunately, my brain goes to this
human being was so talented, so incredible, gave the world
so much, and it felt a little bit like we
let him down a little bit as people, as humanity,
(51:18):
we just kept we want more, we want another movie.
And I feel the same a little bit with Michael Jackson,
like we just want more, just keep taking from these
but you never really know the true story of everything.
But it just felt felt a little bit like that
like I felt. I almost felt like we'd let it
some him down.
Speaker 1 (51:37):
Yeah. Well he never left America.
Speaker 2 (51:39):
I never left America. The best he did was Hawaii.
Speaker 1 (51:41):
Yeah America. Yeah, yeah, no, no, no. I love that
we can bond over Elvis by the way, I am.
Speaker 2 (51:49):
Yeah, my love forever started with Elvis movies, not his music.
I used to watch them with my grandma. Clan Baker
was my fam flan bake.
Speaker 1 (51:55):
My mum had a clam bake. It's just like we're
moving out of the house. I'm having a summer clam
bake finally. So yeah, but yeah, incredible. Yeah, I could
deep dive that with you for ages. But I'm it
was so nice just to sit and chat with you
and to the listeners. All the two were info is
(52:15):
going to be in the show notes to the Aussie listeners, Chrissy,
time you're there from like November.
Speaker 2 (52:20):
All of November is Australia. So and I'm doing all
the major this the major city biggies. Yeah, you know,
but I've added Darwin, not that it's not a major one,
but I hadn't done it before.
Speaker 1 (52:31):
I feel like you've had Townsville or something. I feel
like I've seen something or there's a word that I
was like, oh, that's out of Australia. Maybe it was
a wor I don't know.
Speaker 2 (52:40):
It could have been Auckland.
Speaker 1 (52:42):
No, oh my goodness. But anyway, you're doing so much
and to the America. I know there's some amazing American
listeners on this pot as well. I'm going to pop
it all here. Do you have a favor, Go and
see Monty Franklin.
Speaker 2 (52:57):
Yeah, come and see me live. Thanks guys, thanks for
having you knowwed it.
Speaker 1 (53:01):
Yeah, that's a wrap on another episode of Fearlessly Failing.
As always, thank you to our guests, and let's continue
the conversation on Instagram. I'm at Yamo Lollerberry. This potty
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