August 31, 2025 • 37 mins
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Get ready to chill out and relax with yogi Meg as we dive into yoga, breathwork, journaling, and more self-care practices. Learn how somatic movement helps you reconnect with your body and release tension. We'll also chat about the magic of Ayurveda, dharma, satya, and santosha. Plus, hear all about our upcoming wellness retreat in Joshua Tree—use code CHILL50 to get $50 off! This soul-nourishing convo will inspire you to give back to yourself. Time to hit reset.
Timestamps:
2:30 - What is somatic movement and how Meg got into yoga
8:20 - Ayurvedic medicine and philosophy
13:40 - Meg's favorite yoga words: dharma, satya, santosha
18:30 - Self-care tips: breathwork, stretching, journaling
23:00 - Our Joshua Tree retreat! Details and discount.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Get a. I'm Lala Berry, nutritionist, author, actor, TV presenter,
and professional oversharer. This podcast is all about celebrating failure
because I believe it's a chance for us to learn, grow,
and face our blind spots. Each week, I'll interview a
different guest about their highs as well as their lows,
(00:26):
all in a bid to inspire us to fearlessly fail. Hello, fam,
Today we have a wellness set for you with yoga teacher,
somatic movement healer, a euvedic coach, and my beautiful bud Meg.
(00:47):
We're actually running a yoga retreat together in Joshua Tree
in October, so we did a whole episode around yogus
and all the practices that Meg's really passionate about. We
talk about breath work, we talk about meditation and the
benefits of all these things, and then we talk about
the retreat and I'm going to put a link in
(01:08):
the show notes for the retreat. We've got a special
discount code, so if you if you use the code
Chill fifty in the booking, you'll get fifty buckos off
fifty shmacos. How good. But this episode truly is just
a really nice wellness chat around self care, giving back
to yourself a movement style of healing. I would describe
(01:32):
Meg's whole philosophy as and yet it's just two mates
catching up. She did an awesome job on this pod.
Hope you love it. Like I said, been a little
while between wellness guests, so if you want more wellness guests,
you know the drill right to me, let me know.
All right, hooru, big love, have a ripper week, go
out and do the stuff you love. Bye, Welcome to
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the pod, my yogi mate Meg.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Hello friends, I'm so happy to be here.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Are you nervous or how do you feel?
Speaker 2 (02:05):
I'm so nervo really, yeah, a little bit.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Oh my god, it's been a while since I've done
you know this type of conversation.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
So well, it's just treat it like you and me
have a little coffee after yogs, which we've done many
a time. There was so many right, yeah, okay, So
you are a somatic kealer, a yogs teacher that's my
word for yoga, and you also specialize in aubady health.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Right, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Can I ask a bit about all of this?
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Yes, let's talk about it. Let's break it down.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Well, I'm one of these people that is a little
bit scared of somatic movement because yes, so we needed
a workshop. We have, We've worked at the same yog
studio for a couple of years. We need a workshop.
I was like, no, well, I can't dance. That's literally
where my brain went.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
But I can I dance.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Oh that's the funniest part about really absolutely, because people
came out and they were like life change.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
They were like, this was the best thing ever. So
can you walk me or talk us through what it is?
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Yeah? Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
So what I like to tell people is somatic is
all about getting into the body. So it's working with
the body. It's talking with the body, it's listening to
the body. So it's really tapping into that. So if
we look at it as a therapy. So in therapy
we talk about, we intellectualize, we talk through the stories,
(03:30):
we talk about how we feel, we really talk through it.
But with somatics, it's like therapy for the body. So
it's working with the language of the body, tapping into
the body in that way, understanding the experiences we went through,
the traumas we went through where it's stuck in the body,
the sensations that come up all of those things, because
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especially when we're going through bigger traumatic experiences, we get
super dis connected from our body and so all of
that still stored there stock, but we are so disconnected.
We don't have the language, we don't have the tools
and all of that to tap in and really figure
out how to listen and what's going on and kind
(04:14):
of work through that and with with those emotions and
feelings and all of that. So that's what sematics does,
is it It learns It teaches us to tap in
and reconnect with our body.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Oh I love that. So you and I ran a
breath work in yin workshop the other day.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Yeah, that was so fun.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
But you started with some sematic movement at the start, right,
like we were seated and like the body was moving
in circular emotion.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Is that kind of Yeah, we did some sematic stuff.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
So when it comes to like combining somatics and yoga,
it's really more about ways that we can release certain areas.
So release seeing tension in the jaw, which we did
that in the In the workshop, we did some stuff
with the ears and then we did that stuff with
the along the neck, you know, just working to release
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a lot of that stuff and just kind of basically
working with the nervous system to be like, hey, we can,
we can relax here, we can you're safe here, you know,
just to help the nervous system kind of learn to regulate.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Because the ease it connects super connected to the nervous system.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Right. Oh yeah, there's so many, so many little like
nerve endings along there.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
And it's so interesting when you start to really.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Whether you're working in yoga or this type of industry,
when you really start to learn the body, it's like
so much of it is connected. So you might be
working over here, but it's connected to over here. So yeah,
a lot of it.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Is that a lot? And and is it do you
have like breakout dance situation in it fees to risk?
Speaker 3 (05:57):
So the work that I do, yes, it is more
like movement based. So those are like the fun workshops
that I have, right, Like, that's just to get everybody
into it.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Now. First of all, I'm not I do not dance.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
If you know, if you are someone in my past
and anybody would know that I'd be doing this work now,
they'd be like no way, there's no way because I'm
not a dancer. But it's more about you know, it's
just about like getting silly and just allowing yourself to
be silly and to move in different ways.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
You know.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
I always start my workshops by telling everyone, like, first
of all, I'm not a dancer, Like that's not what
this is.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
We're not here to do like.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
This choreography and be like number one. You know, like
it's not even about that. It's more just about like
how can we really just allow ourselves to move in
ways that like we never get to, you know, and
maybe that's being silly, Maybe it's just moving slower. Maybe
you know, that can look like so many different to
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so many people. And I think the same can be
said for yoga. It's like in yoga, where we are
working with a nervous system, we are working with the body,
we are tapping into that that you know, childlike playfulness.
And I think the same goes for somatics. It's just
more in a you know, in a technical way.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Yeah, how well you've put my fees to to risk.
Thank you. I'm pretty sire that What do you love
about it? Because I'm training auvitic medicine as well and
as part of my nutrition degree, what do you love
about auvid practices and medicine.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
So when I first found out about Our Your Veda,
it was through two hundred hour training.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Yeah, and what drew it, what drew me.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
To arir Veda was the fact that it's so not
a one size, fit fits all, like totally like it's
not that type of system at all, and life is
not a one size But it's also that made sense
to me. It's not like you can eat this and
you can't eat this, and you should move this way
and you can't move that way.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
It's not like that. Our Your Veda is really about.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
Meeting you where you're at, meeting your type of body
and how your body metabolizes everything. And I also was
completely fascinated by, honestly the more of like the philosophy
side of it, Like, I know, you do nutrition, and
you're amazing at that. A lot of people find out
(08:31):
that I do Our Your Veda and they're like, oh
my gosh, you know, you know you do all this
stuff about nutrition.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
And I'm like, actually not really.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
I mean I totally can, obviously I have the knowledge
around it, but it was really the philosophy. It was
really the philosophy that drew me to it. It was so fascinating.
It's very similar to like quantum physics. There's a lot
of similarities in that, and just the spirituality side of
our your veda, that's definitely something I feel like a
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lot of people don't know.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
I didn't even like in my brain. I'm like, I
know the doses.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
I mean, that's like scratching the surface because that's just
like yoga. It's like everybody's introduced to yoga through the movement,
through the austina, through the actual practice, but there's obviously,
as we know, so much more to yoga, so the
same can be said for our eveda. It's like there
the introduction a lot of the times in our erveda
is through nutrition, as it should be because it's a huge.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Factor for all of us as humans.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
But the philosophy, the spirituality side of it is so
fascinating to me. It talks a lot about like you know,
how we were, how we're made and everything.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
You know. It's just it fascinates me.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
So is there like I get a bit excited about
yoga philosophy, but is there something from a eveda that
you're like, oh no, I love that, Like a philosophy
or spiritual kind of like practice that you're like, oh,
if I didn't train in that, I would have no
idea what even existed.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Yeah, I think just diving learning about our your Veda,
I learned more about Psomkia philosophy, which I'm not I'm
not like super versed in it, but it's essentially it's
that's where like Perusha, the words are escaping me right now,
(10:19):
I'm like, I don't, I don't, I'm not well studied
in this, but it was so fascinating to me.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Basically, it's the philosophy.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
Around like how we are created and yeah, so I
just I.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Really justies for the audience.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Yeah, so there's why is the other word escaping? I
don't know. There's Perusian procerty, so when it talks about
like the you know, there's that spiritual side of us,
and then there's property. Property is like in our your Veda,
it's how we show up, how we like, what we
were born, the traits that we have. And then there's vicarity,
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which is the all the factors in our lives, all
the outside factors that kind of cover up our natural tendencies.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
So whether that's like.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
You know, uh, nutrition, whether that's exercise, whether that's like
mentally what we're taking in that can affect like how
our natural body functions. So that's kind of where that
goes for Uh yeah, that's kind of like the basic
idea of our your veta. So that's like with a practitioner,
they're going to look at, okay, what is your natural
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tendencies and then what are the things that are kind
of throwing those natural tendencies off?
Speaker 2 (11:41):
So I know those are like big fancy.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Words, but that's basically how a practitioner goes into it.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Oh I love it. You explained that quite well. I
know you probably don't feel like you did, but you
really did it. I promise, I promise you did. It's
it is a different word. I put you into the
I really put you in the dock run and I
don't keep you warning of that, but I okay, So
I want to know you obviously love yoga. You love
this practice of like especially you teach how many classes
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a week?
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Be real? Too many?
Speaker 3 (12:12):
It's like like I think I teach sixteen a week.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Yeah, you've definitely done more than that as well.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
For sure, there.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Is this day. There was always this day. Where Meck
and I would cross over and she'd look at me
to be like eight pm at night and you'll you're like,
I haven't eaten yet, and you're eating a croissant or
something at like eight pm at night and I'm like,
eat some nuts made. So on those days, you must
have taught at least four classes a day, I'm presuming Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Wow, Yeah, four is probably in the max that I
teach in a day. Again, this is not things that
I suggest for all people, but you know, we got
to do what we got to do sometimes. So yeah,
for four as you has been like the max that
I've tied.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Yeah wow. So I want to know, like what made
you love yogus? Like what made you be like I'm
going to go study yoga. Most people have something where
they're like it gave me something when I needed something.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Totally.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
Yeah, It's so funny just how life takes you on
a journey, right, because I never would have thought that
I would have been in this.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
World at all. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
I went to school for public relations, so I was
definitely more in like that fast paced mentality, Like definitely
had that on my mind as far as like goals
for career wise. So coming into yoga, I really I was.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Introduced through my mom.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
She did a training more so for herself just to
be better at yoga and learn all that. And I
was definitely one of those like hit girlies that was
like I'm not going to do yoga. That's too slow,
that's too boring. And then my mom needed practice, yeah,
practice on somebody. So I was like, okay, I'll do it,
and then started doing it more, started actually going to
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the studio classes and was like, wow, this is amazing.
And this was back in the day when I was
more of a drinker, so it was like in a
period where I was like, I actually don't really want
to be drinking anymore. And so it was like a
really good it gave reason to why I can't go
out and oh I can't go out. I have yoga
in the morning, you know, like, oh, sorry, friends, can't
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be staying out with you, can't be drinking with you.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
You gotta go to yoga in the morning.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
And so then I actually shortly after moved to LA
So it was just like this great transition. I came
to LA still thinking that I was going to do marketing,
still you know, still in.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
That world a little bit, and I.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
Was going to yoga every day after work and really
loved this studio and the owner just so happy to
be pregnant. Her manager was opening her own studio and
she was like, Hey, do you want to come over
here and work for me?
Speaker 2 (14:56):
And it just really kind of all played out, just
fell upon me.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
It's not like I was like, yes, I'm gonna go
after and I want to do yoga.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
It was just like it kind of happened.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Oh I love that. Well, then that brings me to
one of my favorite yoga ways. I was like, we've
gotta we got to talk about some of our favorites.
This sounds really nerdy, but like I love Like if
I'm ever feeling stuck or not sure or even in
any work environment, I always come back to like, well,
hang on, what's your dharma here? Like what's your would
you say now? Because you were open to like kind
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of just like receiving what was showing up for you?
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Absolutely, would you say that's one of your Like teaching
yoga is a dharma of yours?
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
I think when it comes to dharma, I mean all
of our dharmas to serve every single one of us
is to serve. That's what we're here on this world,
in this world to be doing is to serve with
each other, and it's just our each and every one
of us have a unique expression of that. And I
feel like, whether I like to or not, one of
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my gifts has been to hold space for people.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
And whether that was.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Going to be doing event planning or working with businesses
helping them do their brands, which I still do some
of that stuff, but it really feels so I have
found so much fulfillment with yoga and Somatic in that
I can give back, I can hold these spaces. It's
like healing work is so important. And I think the
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biggest thing for me is I really want all of
my clients and anybody that I work with to know
that like the powers in their own hands, like it's
actually not me.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
I'm just here to hold space for them.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
And I think a lot of we see a lot
in the wellness space of making you know, a lot
of people make themselves be the thing. It's like, no,
I'm going to help you, but it's really like, no,
you're doing it yourself. I'm just here to hold that space.
So I think that's where.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
You're a shame.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Yes, it's so nice. I don't think everyone can hold
space like I do. Think that's a specific to you
think having been a student in your class many a time,
and I think holding space isn't always easy because you've
almost got to get out of your own way and
become a vessel or a conduit in a weird kind
of hippie way for sure, and create this energy where
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people feel safe to express themselves or be emotional, which
often happens a lot in a yoga class. I'm sure
you've had many a tears, tears in half pigeon or
you know, and you want those students to feel safe
to come back as well. So I think that's a
testament to you to be and there's something really fierce
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about you that I love. And I think that's also that,
like all this is the space that is protected for
my students, because even the other day you said to
me there was a couple of people that were leaving
before and you were like, this is just the most
important part of the class. But it is right.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
Oh, absolutely, if you've taken my class, you know I'm
pretty leaning about everything except for leaving during shavas.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Yeah, yeah, it's just a big no no, don't do it.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
Hey, friends out there, if you're trying to if you're
gonna start yoga, do not leave during shavasa.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
I'm with you. I'm with your. My biggest gripe is
when you're teaching and soon from the next class during
shavasna tries to enter your room.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
Oh yeah, I mean like a lion ash at the
studio that we worked at the class after learned because
they did that so often. At one point, I it's
I'm not necessarily proud of this, but I did go
out one day and I had like almost a lecture
with them, like, hey, guys, y'all come into my class
every single night and you interrupt our shavasna.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
That's not okay. And I talked to them obviously nicely. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
Yeah, but I did talk to all of them, and
I think all after that I didn't have as many
issues of people walking in.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Oh definitely not from the regulars, because they were like, oh, yes,
now we know.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
But it's also just such a good thing for all
of us to learn, because it's I mean, it's just
an important practice of you know, that is a small
way of us holding space for each other.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Yeah, I agree. No, No, I like this rule. Okay,
So I told you before we're going to talk about
a few great Yogi words. We've talked about dharma and yours.
A big part of yours holding space for people and
being of servers. Yeah, one of my favorite words. And
if I'm ever not sure how to theme a class
or I'm stubbying last minute, I'm like, I haven't planned
a secret with something, I'll be like satya truth truthfulness.
(19:42):
We're going so, how do you like that word? How
does it make you feel? For the listener at home?
What does it stand for?
Speaker 3 (19:51):
Yeah, Satya is is truthfulness.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
So it's about being true.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
I think a lot of people think of it as
speaking truth of being true when you're in relationship to others,
but I think it's also important to understand of like,
it's also to yourself. So it's like being true to yourself,
staying true to your morals, to you know, to your visions,
to your goals. It's being truthful yes to others, and
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it's also staying true in your dharma of like, are
you in integrity with what you're doing? Are you sticking
to the path of your dharma? Because again we talked
about that earlier. It's like, if my darma is holding space,
holding space isn't always easy, it's not always fun, and
I don't always want to do it, Yeah, but it's
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still it's still my dharma. And some days, like even
when it's really really hard, it's really really important for
me to still hold that space. And so you know,
being true to myself about like what is my capacity?
Am I able to hold space? And even if I
still have to? How can I still do that? How
can I stay true in that? So I think Satya.
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I mean, all of these terms are you know, thousands
of years old, and they're there for a reason, right, Yeah,
you definitely can learn from them.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Satya is a big one. I'd say, it's so nice.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
I always talk to it when people are in heart openers,
because I'm like, you've got to have an open heart,
I think to live that they.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Live in general. You're right, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
The other one that I never theme a class around
because I struggle with it myself is Santosha contentment, right, right,
can you explain it what it is for us? Yeah?
But you're my little Yogi Bible, right.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Santosha is a very interesting one. Because it's about contentment.
But being content doesn't always mean comfort, and I think
people are like, oh, contentment, so I have to be comfortable,
and it's like, actually, no, it's being content in the
discomfort right. It's like if things are not going your way,
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if things are not going out as planned, how how
can you still be content in that moment?
Speaker 1 (22:13):
So cool?
Speaker 3 (22:14):
And I think that slash she said to like, what
the world? What's going on in the world. Yeah, you know,
there's a lot going on in the world, and we
could easily spiral and go crazy, or we can find
that Santosia within us to allow us to continue.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
And also, like on a physical level, if you're doing
yoga class and you're like, oh, I don't like this bid,
I don't like being in the warrior proases, I'm going
to avac and come back in ten minutes, it's like
sitting finding the like sitting in that discomfort.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
Yeah, totally, or finding ways for your practice to still
work for you rather than beating yourself up about why
you can't get into that post.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Yeah that's a good okay, So what out for people
that I might be like like getting to a yolk studio,
joining membership that at all just feels a bit too hard,
basket a bit. You know, what are some self care
practices and I know you post these so nicely across
your social media that we can do they aren't going
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to cost us the earth.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
Oh my gosh, so many.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
I mean really looking into any type of quick classes
on YouTube.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
That's always good.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
If you can't make it to a studio, look up
a YouTube class. Think about some of the stuff that
your teachers, you know, some of the poses that your
teachers do in class.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Just focus on those.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
Sometimes we can't get to a class and just five
minutes of stretching. It's like so often we're just such
a black and white society, so it's like, oh, I
can't make it to class.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
I guess I'm gonna do nothing. But what if you
did five minutes of stretching.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
What if you know, what if your yoga looked like
you waking up and doing yoga in your bed or
going to bed and you doing five minutes stretches in
your bed, Like that makes such a difference rather than
just doing nothing.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
You know, like, do you know what you've taught Matt
Nye the ringing bells, the two bells, so you inhale
on one bell and you exhale on the other bell.
And when we did it in the workshop, I was like,
oh my god, half the room storing right now like
it since you strike.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Just yeah, that one's so good.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
I love it so like a bit of breath work
is really good.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
Breath work is phenomenal. It is life changing. I mean,
our breath is our life force. So when we learn
to work with the breath and surrender to the breath,
it makes vast differences in our lives. I think if
you've ever taken my class, A lot of my regulars
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always crack jokes about how how much I talk about
the breath, and you're like, guys.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Where's the breath, Where's what's going on? No one's breathing tonight,
because it's that important. It truly is. So yeah, absolutely
any type of breath work. If you guys want to
do the two bells, If you look up two bells
on Spotify or wherever you listen to your music, I'm
sure it'll come up. And it's just about truly breathing
in and then breathing out with the bells. And the
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bells are just really a guide I mean you could
do that without the bells, right, but yeah, breath work's
a good one.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Stretching.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
When it comes to somatic stuff, people ask me like,
where do I start? Honestly with somatic stuff, start by
just shaking, shaking, just bouncing, stomping around. It can be
as simple as that.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
At improv school they make us to this warm up
and you have to shake each limb out like for
ten seconds or not limb but like your hands you
fade out. Yeah, and it just straight away gets rid
of nervous energy, like it leaves the and you're like,
hang on a sick that was free.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
Like it's such a fast it's so fascinating working with
the nervousness.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Yeah, so cool. The other one and I stole this
off your Instagram. But journaling, oh.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
Yeah, journaling is amazing. Yeah, and that and that can
be done in different ways. Like some people are big visualizers.
I'm not good at visualizing. I can't like see things.
I'm not seeing a movie in my brain. You know,
some people are and they love that. So it's like,
if you're good at visualizing, work on really visualizing what
you want. If you're someone who just needs to talk,
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it out, maybe just literally taking a brain dump, take
five minutes just right, and you know, sometimes it's hard
to start journaling, but you can write I don't know
what to write and I have no clue right now, and.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Then thoughts just start to come to you.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
There's so many different ways to do it, maybe guided prompts,
things like that, And I think just having your giving
yourself the time to really like sit with those things,
because I think a lot of us like we really don't.
We don't sit and ask ourselves like, hey, what do
I want to do for the next month? What are
my goals? Or you know, what do I think about
this or whatever? Like what am I visualizing in the
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next month. We don't ask ourselves those things. So journaling
is a great one.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
You had two really good prompts. One was like what
ignites you right now? And I think the other one
was was like what what I don't remember what the
wording was, but not holding you back, but like what's
kind of like like what.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Makes you feel contracted?
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Yeah, and that's a really good one if you just
like I don't know where to start. Yeah, And for me,
I'm a mad journaler, mad journaler, so I'm all about
the bullet points. So I'll like plan out the next month,
the next five months, Like I'll be like, by this time,
I want this to have happened, and here are the
actionable steps that I will make to make that thing happen.
And I also think a really cool thing around journaling
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is like, how do you want to feel around something?
Speaker 3 (27:52):
Yeah? Actually, there's a good practice called the Barbiner practice,
which is basically you're writing it out as if you
already have it. So let's say you wanted to own
a yoga studio, you would say, I am sitting in
my yoga studio. The windows are gorgeously large, and the
sun is beaming in, and I'm sitting here with my tea,
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and right now there's two classes going on.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
The classes are completely sold.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
Out, and you're just writing and writing, writing as if
this is already your reality. And I think that is
one of my probably one of my favorite journaling practices
to do, because at first you're like, it might feel
a little silly, but then you start to feel in
And it's all about tapping into the nervous system and
allowing the nervous system to feel what it is to
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have that reality and.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
I found getting there for that kind of style. Breath
work can also get you in there really quick and
you almost like fast tracking to that feeling of like
and it can almost feel like God, I not drug like,
but you're like, how did I get here? And that's
where breath work is like that, as you mentioned, very
very life changing. Yeah, of life changing things. We are
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about to team up.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
And I'm so excited.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
So lab the of the year. We are so we
and I know a lot of people listening to this
pod are Aussie, but we are doing a retreat in
Joshua Tree very soon in October. Super exciting and I'm pumped.
I'm very excited because I think there's something magical about
Joshua Tree.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
It's one of my favorite places. It is absolutely gorgeous.
There's just such a beautiful energy there and it's just
so open, especially coming from the city.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
It's just so nice to get away.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
Yeah. I agree.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
And it's a special place. Yeah, so explained, I know
it is.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
It is. It feels like one of those special like
reset kind of it's like hitting the reset button. So
we're doing a three night retreat from Thursday, the second
of October to Sunday, the fifth and do you want
to take us through a little bit of it and
then I'll talk about our little surprise.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
Yeah, I mean, the the main goal with this was
to really tap into a space where we can one build,
like come together as a community right now, especially in
community is so important. It's so important for us to
be able to come together to really support each other
and a lot of our a lot of you know,
when we've been teaching classes recently, a lot of people
(30:20):
have been needing, like needing a break honestly. So this
retreat is all about we really wanted to bring in uh,
rest and relaxation type of vibes. So you know, we're
planning some breathwork, Like we talked about the importance of that,
and breath work is also you know, when it comes
to resting and relaxing, it's like how can you allow
(30:42):
yourself to just slow it down and continue your practices
maybe without movement. So we're going to do some breath work,
We're gonna we're going to bring in some yin uh.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
We are going to do some somatic.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
Stuff, so yes, a little bit of dancing, but also
just slowing it down. You know, we have an amazing
chef coming, plant ba plant based mails and three meals
a day by somebody else.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Are you kidding?
Speaker 3 (31:07):
Yeah, this space is gorgeous. There's a pool, a hot tub,
I mean in Joshua Tree. The main thing that we
were wanting to do is take advantage of nature. You know,
there's so much to see there. There's beautiful hikes, there's
just going and seeing like the different Joshua trees out.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
There, and we are right literally on the border of
Joshua Tree Natural Park. So we have written into the
schedule a hike that we do as a group.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
Yeah, we're so lucky we get to do We could
literally just walk out of our space and then walk
into the trail, so we're super stoked about that. We
have a person coming to do a CaCO sound bath,
which is, you know, just another way to tap in
and connect with the heart if a lot of our
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clients have done so, but there's a lot of people
that haven't. And sound bath is especially combined with breathwork,
is just gorgeous.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
It's I call it Yogi stones, but yeah, you're like
floating out of thereafter, so absolutely I think it's the
we're calling it return retreats. Am I saying that, right,
I was like and I was meant to. And it
is literally about just coming back and returning to yourself.
And Meg has been really as you might know, I'm
(32:29):
a bit of an A type personality and like to
plan every inch of my day out and you're like, no, no,
we need rest time, we need time to read and
just chill by the pool or be in the pool
the you know, like just or there's a labyrinth you
can walk around on site.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
So excited for that.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
We're going to do like a whole guided meditation breathwork
session on that.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
Oh my goodness, amazing. But of course as well, you
do get some of the movement with the hiking and
the yog, so it is really just about an opportunity
to kind of like reset and give back to yourself.
And for the listener, we have a little prezzy ye.
Meg set up a discount code. Do you remember what
it is?
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Chill fifty, Yeah, fifty.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
So if I'm going to have in the show notes
a link to book, but you want to use Chill
fifty to get fifty dollars off, And that's only going
to last for this week, So listen to this pod,
use your discount, pop your deposit down and that's going
to lock you in and you're gonna get that great price.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
We also have a few other other goodies coming. We're
working with some other brands. We're going to get you
guys some gifts for those of you coming. So it's
really we really want this to be an opportunity for
you guys to give back to yourselves.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
And I think as well, like we are going to
take a few I think we said this like for
later this week, but like we're going to sit down
and sit with the structure so you've got your time off.
But also like, yeah, I don't know, I love the
idea of like something nutritiony and they had an aut
lot of sneak something like so.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
Hard when you guys, when you're planning a retreat, it's
so hard because you have all these ideas. Especially with
Lola and I, we both do so much and we
want to give back to you guys so much. But
we also like again, the main point of this is
to rest ready cats, right, So we're really it's like
such a good even of you know, even amount of
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there's time to relax, and then there's also time where
we are having like scheduled and structured specific workshops, whether
it's with Lola or Meat or both of us or
another facilitator that we're bringing in. We really wanted you
to feel like you're getting enough out of it, but
then also feel.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
Like you're able to relax and just slow down.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
And the food, which you mentioned looks inside. Did you
say the website when I showed it looks it's for
a wedding life that's always by You're a.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
Part of any trip.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
Really food, Yeah, amazing, We're in safe hands. We're in
a lot of safe hands with the food. Like I
feel so good about that. So use a discount code
Chill at fifty. It will last for this week, and
get your spot locked in because our max capacity is
about fifteen sixteen, so we want to make sure you
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get your spot.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
We already have a few bookings, so we are really
excited about it.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
We're just so excited.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
It'll be here before we know it.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
Now. I can't believe it.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
And if you're on the fence and you're like, I
don't know, I would just say this is a perfect
gift to give back to yourself and to really invest
in yourself. We've just talked a lot about the importance
of self care. It's also a related way to learn
these practices so that when you leave the retreat you
can bring them into your daily lifestyle. So it's not
just like you need a retreat to live that way.
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It's a way. Our goal is that you walk away
with this toolkit full to the brim with practices that
you can min at home and hopefully live a really
good and upgrade your life in a sense from a
nervous system movement looking after yourself way.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
Absolutely, And outside of that, one of my other favorite
parts of any retreat that I've done is just meeting
new people. You're gonna live with all these new friends
and we all love that. So yes, So gift to
yourself and come meet some new friends. Yeah, and use
that code chill fifty. Yes, can't wait to have you there. Okay,
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my friend, how do you feel now? You were nervous
at the start. How do you feel now it's the end.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
Yeah, feeling better?
Speaker 1 (36:37):
You nailed it. Nothing to worry if you did it
all right, guys, speak to you soon and I'll pop
all the details for the retreat in the show notes.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
Bye.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
That's a wrap on another episode of Fearlessly Failing. As always,
thank you to our guests and let's continue the conversation
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course spread the love.
Get a. I'm Lala Berry, nutritionist, author, actor, TV presenter,
and professional oversharer. This podcast is all about celebrating failure
because I believe it's a chance for us to learn, grow,
and face our blind spots. Each week, I'll interview a
different guest about their highs as well as their lows,
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all in a bid to inspire us to fearlessly fail. Hello, fam,
Today we have a wellness set for you with yoga teacher,
somatic movement healer, a euvedic coach, and my beautiful bud Meg.
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We're actually running a yoga retreat together in Joshua Tree
in October, so we did a whole episode around yogus
and all the practices that Meg's really passionate about. We
talk about breath work, we talk about meditation and the
benefits of all these things, and then we talk about
the retreat and I'm going to put a link in
(01:08):
the show notes for the retreat. We've got a special
discount code, so if you if you use the code
Chill fifty in the booking, you'll get fifty buckos off
fifty shmacos. How good. But this episode truly is just
a really nice wellness chat around self care, giving back
to yourself a movement style of healing. I would describe
(01:32):
Meg's whole philosophy as and yet it's just two mates
catching up. She did an awesome job on this pod.
Hope you love it. Like I said, been a little
while between wellness guests, so if you want more wellness guests,
you know the drill right to me, let me know.
All right, hooru, big love, have a ripper week, go
out and do the stuff you love. Bye, Welcome to
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the pod, my yogi mate Meg.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Hello friends, I'm so happy to be here.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Are you nervous or how do you feel?
Speaker 2 (02:05):
I'm so nervo really, yeah, a little bit.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Oh my god, it's been a while since I've done
you know this type of conversation.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
So well, it's just treat it like you and me
have a little coffee after yogs, which we've done many
a time. There was so many right, yeah, okay, So
you are a somatic kealer, a yogs teacher that's my
word for yoga, and you also specialize in aubady health.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Right, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Can I ask a bit about all of this?
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Yes, let's talk about it. Let's break it down.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Well, I'm one of these people that is a little
bit scared of somatic movement because yes, so we needed
a workshop. We have, We've worked at the same yog
studio for a couple of years. We need a workshop.
I was like, no, well, I can't dance. That's literally
where my brain went.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
But I can I dance.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Oh that's the funniest part about really absolutely, because people
came out and they were like life change.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
They were like, this was the best thing ever. So
can you walk me or talk us through what it is?
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Yeah? Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
So what I like to tell people is somatic is
all about getting into the body. So it's working with
the body. It's talking with the body, it's listening to
the body. So it's really tapping into that. So if
we look at it as a therapy. So in therapy
we talk about, we intellectualize, we talk through the stories,
(03:30):
we talk about how we feel, we really talk through it.
But with somatics, it's like therapy for the body. So
it's working with the language of the body, tapping into
the body in that way, understanding the experiences we went through,
the traumas we went through where it's stuck in the body,
the sensations that come up all of those things, because
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especially when we're going through bigger traumatic experiences, we get
super dis connected from our body and so all of
that still stored there stock, but we are so disconnected.
We don't have the language, we don't have the tools
and all of that to tap in and really figure
out how to listen and what's going on and kind
(04:14):
of work through that and with with those emotions and
feelings and all of that. So that's what sematics does,
is it It learns It teaches us to tap in
and reconnect with our body.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Oh I love that. So you and I ran a
breath work in yin workshop the other day.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Yeah, that was so fun.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
But you started with some sematic movement at the start, right,
like we were seated and like the body was moving
in circular emotion.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Is that kind of Yeah, we did some sematic stuff.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
So when it comes to like combining somatics and yoga,
it's really more about ways that we can release certain areas.
So release seeing tension in the jaw, which we did
that in the In the workshop, we did some stuff
with the ears and then we did that stuff with
the along the neck, you know, just working to release
(05:05):
a lot of that stuff and just kind of basically
working with the nervous system to be like, hey, we can,
we can relax here, we can you're safe here, you know,
just to help the nervous system kind of learn to regulate.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Because the ease it connects super connected to the nervous system.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Right. Oh yeah, there's so many, so many little like
nerve endings along there.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
And it's so interesting when you start to really.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Whether you're working in yoga or this type of industry,
when you really start to learn the body, it's like
so much of it is connected. So you might be
working over here, but it's connected to over here. So yeah,
a lot of it.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Is that a lot? And and is it do you
have like breakout dance situation in it fees to risk?
Speaker 3 (05:57):
So the work that I do, yes, it is more
like movement based. So those are like the fun workshops
that I have, right, Like, that's just to get everybody
into it.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Now. First of all, I'm not I do not dance.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
If you know, if you are someone in my past
and anybody would know that I'd be doing this work now,
they'd be like no way, there's no way because I'm
not a dancer. But it's more about you know, it's
just about like getting silly and just allowing yourself to
be silly and to move in different ways.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
You know.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
I always start my workshops by telling everyone, like, first
of all, I'm not a dancer, Like that's not what
this is.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
We're not here to do like.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
This choreography and be like number one. You know, like
it's not even about that. It's more just about like
how can we really just allow ourselves to move in
ways that like we never get to, you know, and
maybe that's being silly, Maybe it's just moving slower. Maybe
you know, that can look like so many different to
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so many people. And I think the same can be
said for yoga. It's like in yoga, where we are
working with a nervous system, we are working with the body,
we are tapping into that that you know, childlike playfulness.
And I think the same goes for somatics. It's just
more in a you know, in a technical way.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Yeah, how well you've put my fees to to risk.
Thank you. I'm pretty sire that What do you love
about it? Because I'm training auvitic medicine as well and
as part of my nutrition degree, what do you love
about auvid practices and medicine.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
So when I first found out about Our Your Veda,
it was through two hundred hour training.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Yeah, and what drew it, what drew me.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
To arir Veda was the fact that it's so not
a one size, fit fits all, like totally like it's
not that type of system at all, and life is
not a one size But it's also that made sense
to me. It's not like you can eat this and
you can't eat this, and you should move this way
and you can't move that way.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
It's not like that. Our Your Veda is really about.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
Meeting you where you're at, meeting your type of body
and how your body metabolizes everything. And I also was
completely fascinated by, honestly the more of like the philosophy
side of it, Like, I know, you do nutrition, and
you're amazing at that. A lot of people find out
(08:31):
that I do Our Your Veda and they're like, oh
my gosh, you know, you know you do all this
stuff about nutrition.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
And I'm like, actually not really.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
I mean I totally can, obviously I have the knowledge
around it, but it was really the philosophy. It was
really the philosophy that drew me to it. It was so fascinating.
It's very similar to like quantum physics. There's a lot
of similarities in that, and just the spirituality side of
our your veda, that's definitely something I feel like a
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lot of people don't know.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
I didn't even like in my brain. I'm like, I
know the doses.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
I mean, that's like scratching the surface because that's just
like yoga. It's like everybody's introduced to yoga through the movement,
through the austina, through the actual practice, but there's obviously,
as we know, so much more to yoga, so the
same can be said for our eveda. It's like there
the introduction a lot of the times in our erveda
is through nutrition, as it should be because it's a huge.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Factor for all of us as humans.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
But the philosophy, the spirituality side of it is so
fascinating to me. It talks a lot about like you know,
how we were, how we're made and everything.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
You know. It's just it fascinates me.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
So is there like I get a bit excited about
yoga philosophy, but is there something from a eveda that
you're like, oh no, I love that, Like a philosophy
or spiritual kind of like practice that you're like, oh,
if I didn't train in that, I would have no
idea what even existed.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Yeah, I think just diving learning about our your Veda,
I learned more about Psomkia philosophy, which I'm not I'm
not like super versed in it, but it's essentially it's
that's where like Perusha, the words are escaping me right now,
(10:19):
I'm like, I don't, I don't, I'm not well studied
in this, but it was so fascinating to me.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Basically, it's the philosophy.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
Around like how we are created and yeah, so I
just I.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Really justies for the audience.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Yeah, so there's why is the other word escaping? I
don't know. There's Perusian procerty, so when it talks about
like the you know, there's that spiritual side of us,
and then there's property. Property is like in our your Veda,
it's how we show up, how we like, what we
were born, the traits that we have. And then there's vicarity,
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which is the all the factors in our lives, all
the outside factors that kind of cover up our natural tendencies.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
So whether that's like.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
You know, uh, nutrition, whether that's exercise, whether that's like
mentally what we're taking in that can affect like how
our natural body functions. So that's kind of where that
goes for Uh yeah, that's kind of like the basic
idea of our your veta. So that's like with a practitioner,
they're going to look at, okay, what is your natural
(11:34):
tendencies and then what are the things that are kind
of throwing those natural tendencies off?
Speaker 2 (11:41):
So I know those are like big fancy.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Words, but that's basically how a practitioner goes into it.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Oh I love it. You explained that quite well. I
know you probably don't feel like you did, but you
really did it. I promise, I promise you did. It's
it is a different word. I put you into the
I really put you in the dock run and I
don't keep you warning of that, but I okay, So
I want to know you obviously love yoga. You love
this practice of like especially you teach how many classes
(12:09):
a week?
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Be real? Too many?
Speaker 3 (12:12):
It's like like I think I teach sixteen a week.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Yeah, you've definitely done more than that as well.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
For sure, there.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Is this day. There was always this day. Where Meck
and I would cross over and she'd look at me
to be like eight pm at night and you'll you're like,
I haven't eaten yet, and you're eating a croissant or
something at like eight pm at night and I'm like,
eat some nuts made. So on those days, you must
have taught at least four classes a day, I'm presuming Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Wow, Yeah, four is probably in the max that I
teach in a day. Again, this is not things that
I suggest for all people, but you know, we got
to do what we got to do sometimes. So yeah,
for four as you has been like the max that
I've tied.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Yeah wow. So I want to know, like what made
you love yogus? Like what made you be like I'm
going to go study yoga. Most people have something where
they're like it gave me something when I needed something.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Totally.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
Yeah, It's so funny just how life takes you on
a journey, right, because I never would have thought that
I would have been in this.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
World at all. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
I went to school for public relations, so I was
definitely more in like that fast paced mentality, Like definitely
had that on my mind as far as like goals
for career wise. So coming into yoga, I really I was.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Introduced through my mom.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
She did a training more so for herself just to
be better at yoga and learn all that. And I
was definitely one of those like hit girlies that was
like I'm not going to do yoga. That's too slow,
that's too boring. And then my mom needed practice, yeah,
practice on somebody. So I was like, okay, I'll do it,
and then started doing it more, started actually going to
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the studio classes and was like, wow, this is amazing.
And this was back in the day when I was
more of a drinker, so it was like in a
period where I was like, I actually don't really want
to be drinking anymore. And so it was like a
really good it gave reason to why I can't go
out and oh I can't go out. I have yoga
in the morning, you know, like, oh, sorry, friends, can't
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be staying out with you, can't be drinking with you.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
You gotta go to yoga in the morning.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
And so then I actually shortly after moved to LA
So it was just like this great transition. I came
to LA still thinking that I was going to do marketing,
still you know, still in.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
That world a little bit, and I.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
Was going to yoga every day after work and really
loved this studio and the owner just so happy to
be pregnant. Her manager was opening her own studio and
she was like, Hey, do you want to come over
here and work for me?
Speaker 2 (14:56):
And it just really kind of all played out, just
fell upon me.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
It's not like I was like, yes, I'm gonna go
after and I want to do yoga.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
It was just like it kind of happened.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Oh I love that. Well, then that brings me to
one of my favorite yoga ways. I was like, we've
gotta we got to talk about some of our favorites.
This sounds really nerdy, but like I love Like if
I'm ever feeling stuck or not sure or even in
any work environment, I always come back to like, well,
hang on, what's your dharma here? Like what's your would
you say now? Because you were open to like kind
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of just like receiving what was showing up for you?
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Absolutely, would you say that's one of your Like teaching
yoga is a dharma of yours?
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
I think when it comes to dharma, I mean all
of our dharmas to serve every single one of us
is to serve. That's what we're here on this world,
in this world to be doing is to serve with
each other, and it's just our each and every one
of us have a unique expression of that. And I
feel like, whether I like to or not, one of
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my gifts has been to hold space for people.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
And whether that was.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Going to be doing event planning or working with businesses
helping them do their brands, which I still do some
of that stuff, but it really feels so I have
found so much fulfillment with yoga and Somatic in that
I can give back, I can hold these spaces. It's
like healing work is so important. And I think the
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biggest thing for me is I really want all of
my clients and anybody that I work with to know
that like the powers in their own hands, like it's
actually not me.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
I'm just here to hold space for them.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
And I think a lot of we see a lot
in the wellness space of making you know, a lot
of people make themselves be the thing. It's like, no,
I'm going to help you, but it's really like, no,
you're doing it yourself. I'm just here to hold that space.
So I think that's where.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
You're a shame.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Yes, it's so nice. I don't think everyone can hold
space like I do. Think that's a specific to you
think having been a student in your class many a time,
and I think holding space isn't always easy because you've
almost got to get out of your own way and
become a vessel or a conduit in a weird kind
of hippie way for sure, and create this energy where
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people feel safe to express themselves or be emotional, which
often happens a lot in a yoga class. I'm sure
you've had many a tears, tears in half pigeon or
you know, and you want those students to feel safe
to come back as well. So I think that's a
testament to you to be and there's something really fierce
(17:47):
about you that I love. And I think that's also that,
like all this is the space that is protected for
my students, because even the other day you said to
me there was a couple of people that were leaving
before and you were like, this is just the most
important part of the class. But it is right.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
Oh, absolutely, if you've taken my class, you know I'm
pretty leaning about everything except for leaving during shavas.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Yeah, yeah, it's just a big no no, don't do it.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
Hey, friends out there, if you're trying to if you're
gonna start yoga, do not leave during shavasa.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
I'm with you. I'm with your. My biggest gripe is
when you're teaching and soon from the next class during
shavasna tries to enter your room.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
Oh yeah, I mean like a lion ash at the
studio that we worked at the class after learned because
they did that so often. At one point, I it's
I'm not necessarily proud of this, but I did go
out one day and I had like almost a lecture
with them, like, hey, guys, y'all come into my class
every single night and you interrupt our shavasna.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
That's not okay. And I talked to them obviously nicely. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
Yeah, but I did talk to all of them, and
I think all after that I didn't have as many
issues of people walking in.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Oh definitely not from the regulars, because they were like, oh, yes,
now we know.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
But it's also just such a good thing for all
of us to learn, because it's I mean, it's just
an important practice of you know, that is a small
way of us holding space for each other.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Yeah, I agree. No, No, I like this rule. Okay,
So I told you before we're going to talk about
a few great Yogi words. We've talked about dharma and yours.
A big part of yours holding space for people and
being of servers. Yeah, one of my favorite words. And
if I'm ever not sure how to theme a class
or I'm stubbying last minute, I'm like, I haven't planned
a secret with something, I'll be like satya truth truthfulness.
(19:42):
We're going so, how do you like that word? How
does it make you feel? For the listener at home?
What does it stand for?
Speaker 3 (19:51):
Yeah, Satya is is truthfulness.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
So it's about being true.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
I think a lot of people think of it as
speaking truth of being true when you're in relationship to others,
but I think it's also important to understand of like,
it's also to yourself. So it's like being true to yourself,
staying true to your morals, to you know, to your visions,
to your goals. It's being truthful yes to others, and
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it's also staying true in your dharma of like, are
you in integrity with what you're doing? Are you sticking
to the path of your dharma? Because again we talked
about that earlier. It's like, if my darma is holding space,
holding space isn't always easy, it's not always fun, and
I don't always want to do it, Yeah, but it's
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still it's still my dharma. And some days, like even
when it's really really hard, it's really really important for
me to still hold that space. And so you know,
being true to myself about like what is my capacity?
Am I able to hold space? And even if I
still have to? How can I still do that? How
can I stay true in that? So I think Satya.
(21:03):
I mean, all of these terms are you know, thousands
of years old, and they're there for a reason, right, Yeah,
you definitely can learn from them.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Satya is a big one. I'd say, it's so nice.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
I always talk to it when people are in heart openers,
because I'm like, you've got to have an open heart,
I think to live that they.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Live in general. You're right, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
The other one that I never theme a class around
because I struggle with it myself is Santosha contentment, right, right,
can you explain it what it is for us? Yeah?
But you're my little Yogi Bible, right.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Santosha is a very interesting one. Because it's about contentment.
But being content doesn't always mean comfort, and I think
people are like, oh, contentment, so I have to be comfortable,
and it's like, actually, no, it's being content in the
discomfort right. It's like if things are not going your way,
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if things are not going out as planned, how how
can you still be content in that moment?
Speaker 1 (22:13):
So cool?
Speaker 3 (22:14):
And I think that slash she said to like, what
the world? What's going on in the world. Yeah, you know,
there's a lot going on in the world, and we
could easily spiral and go crazy, or we can find
that Santosia within us to allow us to continue.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
And also, like on a physical level, if you're doing
yoga class and you're like, oh, I don't like this bid,
I don't like being in the warrior proases, I'm going
to avac and come back in ten minutes, it's like
sitting finding the like sitting in that discomfort.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
Yeah, totally, or finding ways for your practice to still
work for you rather than beating yourself up about why
you can't get into that post.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Yeah that's a good okay, So what out for people
that I might be like like getting to a yolk studio,
joining membership that at all just feels a bit too hard,
basket a bit. You know, what are some self care
practices and I know you post these so nicely across
your social media that we can do they aren't going
(23:19):
to cost us the earth.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
Oh my gosh, so many.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
I mean really looking into any type of quick classes
on YouTube.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
That's always good.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
If you can't make it to a studio, look up
a YouTube class. Think about some of the stuff that
your teachers, you know, some of the poses that your
teachers do in class.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Just focus on those.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
Sometimes we can't get to a class and just five
minutes of stretching. It's like so often we're just such
a black and white society, so it's like, oh, I
can't make it to class.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
I guess I'm gonna do nothing. But what if you
did five minutes of stretching.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
What if you know, what if your yoga looked like
you waking up and doing yoga in your bed or
going to bed and you doing five minutes stretches in
your bed, Like that makes such a difference rather than
just doing nothing.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
You know, like, do you know what you've taught Matt
Nye the ringing bells, the two bells, so you inhale
on one bell and you exhale on the other bell.
And when we did it in the workshop, I was like,
oh my god, half the room storing right now like
it since you strike.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Just yeah, that one's so good.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
I love it so like a bit of breath work
is really good.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
Breath work is phenomenal. It is life changing. I mean,
our breath is our life force. So when we learn
to work with the breath and surrender to the breath,
it makes vast differences in our lives. I think if
you've ever taken my class, A lot of my regulars
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always crack jokes about how how much I talk about
the breath, and you're like, guys.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Where's the breath, Where's what's going on? No one's breathing tonight,
because it's that important. It truly is. So yeah, absolutely
any type of breath work. If you guys want to
do the two bells, If you look up two bells
on Spotify or wherever you listen to your music, I'm
sure it'll come up. And it's just about truly breathing
in and then breathing out with the bells. And the
(25:24):
bells are just really a guide I mean you could
do that without the bells, right, but yeah, breath work's
a good one.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Stretching.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
When it comes to somatic stuff, people ask me like,
where do I start? Honestly with somatic stuff, start by
just shaking, shaking, just bouncing, stomping around. It can be
as simple as that.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
At improv school they make us to this warm up
and you have to shake each limb out like for
ten seconds or not limb but like your hands you
fade out. Yeah, and it just straight away gets rid
of nervous energy, like it leaves the and you're like,
hang on a sick that was free.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
Like it's such a fast it's so fascinating working with
the nervousness.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Yeah, so cool. The other one and I stole this
off your Instagram. But journaling, oh.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
Yeah, journaling is amazing. Yeah, and that and that can
be done in different ways. Like some people are big visualizers.
I'm not good at visualizing. I can't like see things.
I'm not seeing a movie in my brain. You know,
some people are and they love that. So it's like,
if you're good at visualizing, work on really visualizing what
you want. If you're someone who just needs to talk,
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it out, maybe just literally taking a brain dump, take
five minutes just right, and you know, sometimes it's hard
to start journaling, but you can write I don't know
what to write and I have no clue right now, and.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Then thoughts just start to come to you.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
There's so many different ways to do it, maybe guided prompts,
things like that, And I think just having your giving
yourself the time to really like sit with those things,
because I think a lot of us like we really don't.
We don't sit and ask ourselves like, hey, what do
I want to do for the next month? What are
my goals? Or you know, what do I think about
this or whatever? Like what am I visualizing in the
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next month. We don't ask ourselves those things. So journaling
is a great one.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
You had two really good prompts. One was like what
ignites you right now? And I think the other one
was was like what what I don't remember what the
wording was, but not holding you back, but like what's
kind of like like what.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Makes you feel contracted?
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Yeah, and that's a really good one if you just
like I don't know where to start. Yeah, And for me,
I'm a mad journaler, mad journaler, so I'm all about
the bullet points. So I'll like plan out the next month,
the next five months, Like I'll be like, by this time,
I want this to have happened, and here are the
actionable steps that I will make to make that thing happen.
And I also think a really cool thing around journaling
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is like, how do you want to feel around something?
Speaker 3 (27:52):
Yeah? Actually, there's a good practice called the Barbiner practice,
which is basically you're writing it out as if you
already have it. So let's say you wanted to own
a yoga studio, you would say, I am sitting in
my yoga studio. The windows are gorgeously large, and the
sun is beaming in, and I'm sitting here with my tea,
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and right now there's two classes going on.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
The classes are completely sold.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
Out, and you're just writing and writing, writing as if
this is already your reality. And I think that is
one of my probably one of my favorite journaling practices
to do, because at first you're like, it might feel
a little silly, but then you start to feel in
And it's all about tapping into the nervous system and
allowing the nervous system to feel what it is to
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have that reality and.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
I found getting there for that kind of style. Breath
work can also get you in there really quick and
you almost like fast tracking to that feeling of like
and it can almost feel like God, I not drug like,
but you're like, how did I get here? And that's
where breath work is like that, as you mentioned, very
very life changing. Yeah, of life changing things. We are
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about to team up.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
And I'm so excited.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
So lab the of the year. We are so we
and I know a lot of people listening to this
pod are Aussie, but we are doing a retreat in
Joshua Tree very soon in October. Super exciting and I'm pumped.
I'm very excited because I think there's something magical about
Joshua Tree.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
It's one of my favorite places. It is absolutely gorgeous.
There's just such a beautiful energy there and it's just
so open, especially coming from the city.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
It's just so nice to get away.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
Yeah. I agree.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
And it's a special place. Yeah, so explained, I know
it is.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
It is. It feels like one of those special like
reset kind of it's like hitting the reset button. So
we're doing a three night retreat from Thursday, the second
of October to Sunday, the fifth and do you want
to take us through a little bit of it and
then I'll talk about our little surprise.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
Yeah, I mean, the the main goal with this was
to really tap into a space where we can one build,
like come together as a community right now, especially in
community is so important. It's so important for us to
be able to come together to really support each other
and a lot of our a lot of you know,
when we've been teaching classes recently, a lot of people
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have been needing, like needing a break honestly. So this
retreat is all about we really wanted to bring in uh,
rest and relaxation type of vibes. So you know, we're
planning some breathwork, Like we talked about the importance of that,
and breath work is also you know, when it comes
to resting and relaxing, it's like how can you allow
(30:42):
yourself to just slow it down and continue your practices
maybe without movement. So we're going to do some breath work,
We're gonna we're going to bring in some yin uh.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
We are going to do some somatic.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
Stuff, so yes, a little bit of dancing, but also
just slowing it down. You know, we have an amazing
chef coming, plant ba plant based mails and three meals
a day by somebody else.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Are you kidding?
Speaker 3 (31:07):
Yeah, this space is gorgeous. There's a pool, a hot tub,
I mean in Joshua Tree. The main thing that we
were wanting to do is take advantage of nature. You know,
there's so much to see there. There's beautiful hikes, there's
just going and seeing like the different Joshua trees out.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
There, and we are right literally on the border of
Joshua Tree Natural Park. So we have written into the
schedule a hike that we do as a group.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
Yeah, we're so lucky we get to do We could
literally just walk out of our space and then walk
into the trail, so we're super stoked about that. We
have a person coming to do a CaCO sound bath,
which is, you know, just another way to tap in
and connect with the heart if a lot of our
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clients have done so, but there's a lot of people
that haven't. And sound bath is especially combined with breathwork,
is just gorgeous.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
It's I call it Yogi stones, but yeah, you're like
floating out of thereafter, so absolutely I think it's the
we're calling it return retreats. Am I saying that, right,
I was like and I was meant to. And it
is literally about just coming back and returning to yourself.
And Meg has been really as you might know, I'm
(32:29):
a bit of an A type personality and like to
plan every inch of my day out and you're like, no, no,
we need rest time, we need time to read and
just chill by the pool or be in the pool
the you know, like just or there's a labyrinth you
can walk around on site.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
So excited for that.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
We're going to do like a whole guided meditation breathwork
session on that.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
Oh my goodness, amazing. But of course as well, you
do get some of the movement with the hiking and
the yog, so it is really just about an opportunity
to kind of like reset and give back to yourself.
And for the listener, we have a little prezzy ye.
Meg set up a discount code. Do you remember what
it is?
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Chill fifty, Yeah, fifty.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
So if I'm going to have in the show notes
a link to book, but you want to use Chill
fifty to get fifty dollars off, And that's only going
to last for this week, So listen to this pod,
use your discount, pop your deposit down and that's going
to lock you in and you're gonna get that great price.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
We also have a few other other goodies coming. We're
working with some other brands. We're going to get you
guys some gifts for those of you coming. So it's
really we really want this to be an opportunity for
you guys to give back to yourselves.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
And I think as well, like we are going to
take a few I think we said this like for
later this week, but like we're going to sit down
and sit with the structure so you've got your time off.
But also like, yeah, I don't know, I love the
idea of like something nutritiony and they had an aut
lot of sneak something like so.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
Hard when you guys, when you're planning a retreat, it's
so hard because you have all these ideas. Especially with
Lola and I, we both do so much and we
want to give back to you guys so much. But
we also like again, the main point of this is
to rest ready cats, right, So we're really it's like
such a good even of you know, even amount of
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there's time to relax, and then there's also time where
we are having like scheduled and structured specific workshops, whether
it's with Lola or Meat or both of us or
another facilitator that we're bringing in. We really wanted you
to feel like you're getting enough out of it, but
then also feel.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
Like you're able to relax and just slow down.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
And the food, which you mentioned looks inside. Did you
say the website when I showed it looks it's for
a wedding life that's always by You're a.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
Part of any trip.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
Really food, Yeah, amazing, We're in safe hands. We're in
a lot of safe hands with the food. Like I
feel so good about that. So use a discount code
Chill at fifty. It will last for this week, and
get your spot locked in because our max capacity is
about fifteen sixteen, so we want to make sure you
(35:23):
get your spot.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
We already have a few bookings, so we are really
excited about it.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
We're just so excited.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
It'll be here before we know it.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
Now. I can't believe it.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
And if you're on the fence and you're like, I
don't know, I would just say this is a perfect
gift to give back to yourself and to really invest
in yourself. We've just talked a lot about the importance
of self care. It's also a related way to learn
these practices so that when you leave the retreat you
can bring them into your daily lifestyle. So it's not
just like you need a retreat to live that way.
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It's a way. Our goal is that you walk away
with this toolkit full to the brim with practices that
you can min at home and hopefully live a really
good and upgrade your life in a sense from a
nervous system movement looking after yourself way.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
Absolutely, And outside of that, one of my other favorite
parts of any retreat that I've done is just meeting
new people. You're gonna live with all these new friends
and we all love that. So yes, So gift to
yourself and come meet some new friends. Yeah, and use
that code chill fifty. Yes, can't wait to have you there. Okay,
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my friend, how do you feel now? You were nervous
at the start. How do you feel now it's the end.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
Yeah, feeling better?
Speaker 1 (36:37):
You nailed it. Nothing to worry if you did it
all right, guys, speak to you soon and I'll pop
all the details for the retreat in the show notes.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
Bye.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
That's a wrap on another episode of Fearlessly Failing. As always,
thank you to our guests and let's continue the conversation
on Instagram. I'm at Yamo Lollerberry. This potty my work
for podcast is available on all streaming platforms. I'd love
it if you could subscribe, rape and comment, and of
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