September 14, 2025 • 58 mins
40 Questions for turning 40!!
The Bosso (aka my boyfriend Matt) interviews me about turning 40! And he turns 40 just 2 days after me so this is a joint celebration poddy ep, i hope you love it!
Hope you love this ep and all the birthday vibes!
Big Love
Lola x
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Get a I'm Lola Berry, nutritionist, author, actor, TV presenter,
and professional oversharer. This podcast is all about celebrating failure
because I believe it's a chance for us to learn,
grow and face our blind spots. Each week, I'll interview
a different guest about their.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Highs as well as their lows, all.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
In a bid to inspire us to fearlessly fail.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Welcome Lola Berry to your very own fortieth birthday podcast
episode Thanks Boobye, titled forty Questions at forty? Can we
just paint the picture for everyone?
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Yeah, I'm here in my Jimmy's on my fortieth birthday,
coffee in hand. Yeah, looking at the love of my life. Ah,
that's nice, hopless. Yeah, you got not much clothes on. Yeah,
and you also turned forty, my dear friend, in two days.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Two days. Yes, and we have a very fun day
planned for you. Yes, we do.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Do you want to share or no? Ah, keep it
a surprise. Now we can share. We're getting tattoos.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
I hope my dad doesn't hear that. He's going to
find out soon enough. All over the interwebs, How are you?
How do you feel this morning? So my motto is
what's my word.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Forty formidable, formidable and forty not thirty and flirty because
I got my love. Ah, yes, you came in from
my thirty first to thirty second birthday.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Did I? Yeah? Ah shit, So we've been together a
fair while. Yeah? Is it seven years this year? I
love that he pretends it does. It's killer. Is this
going to be eight years? I actually don't know, if
I'm honest. The other I think, Wow, I'm glad that
(02:07):
we got this one recording that you don't know. Anyway,
we got to we've got to crack on because it
is your birthday. Yes, you are forty years old today.
Do you want to say what you're doing for me tonight?
We're going to Chateau my mom for a little martini,
for a little date. Yes, yes we are. If you
don't know what Chateau Mamon is, it's a famous hotel,
(02:30):
bar restaurant in Hollywood. In Yeah, it's on sunset, but
it's like super famous.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Like I've oh my god, I have been, boo you have. Yeah,
I went to a party there. What this whole time,
I'm like, I've never been. I've never been.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
I just had a flashback.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
I went there for drinks like I had a party. Theyah,
like I went in, partied and left and went on
to the next location.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Yeah, but it's it's like a super famous Hollywood hotel, like.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Like Leonardo DiCaprio had his twenty first birthday there, Like
Jimmy Hendrix have a room there, Johnny Mitchell, like all
these incredible people.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
It's like where Lindsay Lohan went on her like month
on Drug Bender. It's like, you know, there's stories of
like you know, rock stars riding their motorbikes through the
that's right through the lobby. I think it was like
led Zeppelin or something that like rode their bikes through
the lobby and yeah, all that all that kind of stuff.
So it's like super famous, but it's also super cool. Nice.
(03:31):
All right, let's start on these questions. Are you ready
for him? I do have forty questions, so we're going
to have to power through them. We can't really dilly dally.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Do you want me If a question I can't think
of the answer too straight away because I haven't seen them,
just should go onto the next yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
To save time. Yeah, and what if.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
It's a really poignant question, I think you should answer
it too, because you're.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
About to say, yeah, then you can throw it back
to me, but I'll answer it, you know, snappy, okay, snappy?
All right, here we go? You ready, Yeah, all right,
here we go. What is the most surprising thing you've
learned about yourself in the last forty years.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
I'm probably more adaptable than I first realized I would be. Yeah, like,
you can usually put me into a situation. I'll be
able to oh freak, but I'll still be able to
do it.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Do you know what I mean? Yeah? I like that adaptable.
What are you? Yeah? I think that I'm probably more
fearless than I ever thought you are. Yeah, well, yeah, okay.
Question two, if you could go back to your twenties,
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would you do anything differently?
Speaker 1 (04:49):
I mean, if we're being really honest, all my twenties
was riddled with an eating disorder, so I'd probably love
to I started therapy at thirty. I reckon if I
got into or found the right fit of a therapist earlier,
because I did try in my late twenties when I
lived in Sydney. It just wasn't the right fit. I
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guess if I met my current therapist, who I've been
with since thirty in my twenties. I think I would
have been able to deal with that a lot quicker.
So my advice would be give less hoots about what
people think of you, especially in the physical realm, because
they're always going to judge you if you've got a
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job that is like front facing.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Yeah, understand, girl, that's good answer. What was your biggest
fear when you were younger and how do you feel
about it now?
Speaker 1 (05:44):
I mean, it's really lucky to admit this. My biggest
fear was putting on weight, That's truly. That was my
big fear. Like I have skydive, I have, you know,
I would I've swam with like giant green sea turtles,
knowing full well that there were sharks below me. You know, like,
(06:04):
I've got no probs with that. I was so petrified
of weight. But I'm also a millennial, a child that
grew up in the nineties early two thousands where that
was celebrated. So that would have been my big fear.
Do I fear it now? No, because I want to
feel vital for me and for you.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Happy and healthy. Yeah, we love that. What about you?
What was your fear when you were younger? Ah? Fuck, hell,
we could do a whole podcast just on that. I think, hmmm,
that's my biggest fear. I don't know, to be honest,
but I think it was definitely probably around like family
(06:46):
and leaving, you know, not being close to family and
moving away and all those kinds of things. And now
you can be further away. I could be further away. Thanks,
and yes, thanks to you. And how do I feel
about it now? I'm so happy that I did it.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
We also like invest in making sure we get back
to seeing families like Crimbo stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Yeah. So as much as my biggest fear was like
being away, Like I remember like the first time driving
out of Melbourne feeling emotional.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Cry and then we moved to Byron Bay because I
that day I was like, we're never going back.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
I like to live. You just knew that.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Yeah, Okay, in my heart I was like, this is it.
I would be open to having like a property or
something there one day.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Yeah sure, but yeah, I how do I feel about
it now? I'm glad I did it, took the plunge.
I'm glad that I've gone on a life adventure and
with the family stuff, I feel better and closer and
all those things. With my family.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Rebutt all question what part of Australia feels like home
for you now?
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Byron Bay? Yeah that to me too. Yeah, okay, you'll
give them the long answers. Sorry, I love it. I
love it. What's one of your proudest accomplishments from the
past four decades? Ah, Holy moly.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
I'm a bit of a ambitious go get us, so
I would say I probably haven't achieved it yet, but
things that like highlights that I love that I've done,
Like I love that I've skydived. I mean, achievements like
writing eleven books is a pretty cool thing. This pod
really means a lot to me. It's still a labor
(08:36):
of love, if we're being really really honest about that, Like,
I would love this to be my like what I
do for work all the time, and we do spend
how many hours a week to reckon I spend on
this pod heaps like between ten and twenty right, Yeah,
depending on how many guests we're interviewing, and so, like
you can see how it could be a full time job.
(08:57):
I would love it to be one of the big
ways I make in as well. So i'd say the pod,
the books, and I'm like really on this sounds like
really hippie, and we were like, because I've done so
much work on therapy and like what you were saying
about family, I have really nice relationship with both my
(09:18):
dad and my mom and that's taken time time. Well,
I've always been like a daddy's girl. I've got to
be honest, I've always been like me and my dad
have always been really close. But like me and my mom,
it's we're very We've got the same similarities, we've got
the same fiery personalities, we blow up at the same stuff.
So that's taken work with therapy and really honest conversations
(09:40):
with her to now feel like we're, you know, really
nice friends. And I'm kind of proud of like it
could have gone the other way and it didn't.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
I'm me saying that, mum. But we're in a good spot. Yeah, no,
I agree. I think that's great. Okay, next question, If
you could relive any decade of your life, which one
would it be? And why? Oh my god, this has
made me feel so old. Well it's like, you know,
I mean, yeah, I got forty truth, That's what I mean. Well,
(10:12):
do you know what I thought I'm going to answer
this truthfully.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
I woke up this morning I was like, I think
forties is going to be my favorite decade. Like I
had that feeling, I think this is going to be
And I know everyone says everything happens in your thirties,
like you buy a house, you have the kiddos, da
da da da, it does. And I think you and
I I watched this really cool podcast where they say
life begins at forty and I think for you and
(10:38):
I career wise, like we are putting in so much
work to have careers here in America, and I think
that this is going to be the decade it all
comes to fruition and really comes to life. So I'm
going to actually go ahead and predict that forties is
going to be the best decade.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
So you wouldn't relive any No twenties, No thirties.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
I love, but like twenties is hard, constantly learning, you're
constantly failing, You're constantly falling in and out of love
and getting heartbroken and then questioning your worth. Like I said,
my worth was all tied up in my body image,
So that was hard. Twenties thirties was great, like you
and I made it like We've been together for most
of our thirties and like we've done a lot, We've
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achieved a lot. So I would say thirties is been awesome.
Thirties has also been hard. Every time we made money,
we reinvested it in like embryos or.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Like visas or the house.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Like every time we got a chunk of money, we
put it back into something, which I know is what
you're meant to do. But that became like financial stress
is something that I was very aware of in my thirties,
which I wasn't really super aware of in my twenties
because I was writing best selling books and making a
lot of money in royalties and that slowed down in
my thirties. I would say my career was actually harder
(11:58):
in my thirties than it was my twenties. My career
was blowing up because there wasn't that many health all
this more excitement.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Yes, so start at that start of the career. Yeah,
So I'd say I'm pump for forties. Okay, what's the
best piece of advice you've received so far in life?
It's a hard question. I've got two. No, it's very
easy for me. I already this is the shit. I love.
Two one.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
When I interviewed Owen tal on the podcast, he said
a quote from a Hamlet, the readiness is all so
being ready and staying ready. But that's quite a morbid
quote because that quote being ready for death. Yes, always
ready for death. But if you think about it as
a creative, as an actor, as an artist, readiness is
(12:43):
all means like stay ready, like be ready, be ready
because you don't know, like you've seen hiven in the
last week, Like you get I get put on hold
for work stuff, and then you get dropped, and then
you get booked, and then you get put on hold,
and like even when I did a segment on A
me A and TV this past week, remember I said,
I don't even know if it will happen, like you
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book get books. You don't know if it happens until
you're physically there at the studio. So staying ready I love.
And the other one is not advice I was ever given.
But as you know, I have a very healthy obsession
with Marcus Mumford of Mumford and Sons. And he says
when he writes, he sets himself the task to be
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as honest as possible. And he said like to be
relentlessly honest, and I have carried that through work business,
and I love sitting in that space and communicating from
that space, because when you're living in truth, you don't
need you don't need to worry about your backstory, you
don't need to worry. You're just like, Okay, well this
(13:46):
is where I'm at, this is the truth of the situation,
and this is how I think I need to move forward.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
And you can be exactly who you are. Yeah, like
no filter, no like mask.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
What about you? Best piece of advice I've received? Well,
like quote mantra, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
I feel a little bit different, like like I like
the advice giver, and no one gives me advice. Okay,
well then what's something that you've done to yourself? I
think I think probably Yeah, the advice I give myself
and have given myself is to.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Give less of a shit. Yeah. Oh yeah, you're good
at that. I still get a bit caught up.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Yeah, So like, I really just don't care. I just
love exactly being exactly who I am for whatever it is,
like the good, the bad, yea, it is who I am.
Very attractive. Yeah, and I'm going to say something that
will play off your readiness is all like being ready.
(14:53):
I like, I love that and of course like that.
But for me, I put my life off waiting to
be ready. So it's like I won't do that until
I am ready. So it's like I won't do that
thing until I'm good enough, or until I'm ready to
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do it, or until you know, I'm prepared, prepared enough
for I know how to write music enough or compose enough.
And I think that I probably lost a lot of
opportunities waiting for that. And my advice would be like,
you never really are fully ready, so you just say
yes and figure it out later. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
So it's like bravery, bravery, Yeah, like just fucking jump.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Yeah. Yeah, I'm a big believer in that as well.
So Okay, how is your definition of success change as
you've grown older?
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Well, it's off the back what you just said. It's
not worrying about external validation. It is much more about
like what is.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Success for me?
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Like you and I have very specific goals here in America,
and it doesn't matter what anyone else thinks of those goals.
What matters is that you and I like as a team,
I think, like know what they are and working towards
them together. It doesn't matter what other people think of
(16:18):
that success or how they judge that success or how
like and obviously you know this, but like being forty,
like a lot of people like, well, are you going
to have a kid and all that, and for many
people that is success. Building a family is a really
important value system. And you and I have talked a lot,
and I'm like, honestly, for me, a baby is like
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being on a set and acting and winning an Emmy.
One day, it's Emmy's day here as we record this
in la very fetuitous that my birthday is falling on
Emmy's Day, and so like that is like if you know,
and I've done a lot of work with my therapist
that that is a really important like value to me. Yes,
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pod and acting.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Yeah, I don't really see like having a kid as
like a goal or a success.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
But that's that's just our viewpoint and that's why I
think it's like we're honoring our value system and our viewpoint.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Yeah, but that doesn't mean it can't be for someone else,
of course. Yeah, And like I you love being an uncle,
you know what I mean? Like we will FaceTime in
the Kiddo's yesterday. Like you love all that. It just
doesn't mean that that has to be like other people's success,
doesn't have to be our version of success. I think
whatever your success is, honor that, yeah, and whatever that.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Is for you. Yeah, Yeah, I love that. Okay, it's
a little bit of a lighter one looking back. What
was your most memorable birthday celebration?
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Oh, I know, I had a theme party for my
twenty first all I know, I don't know what the
theme was, but I know I wore ski gear, that's
all I know. And for my eighteenth, I had a
joint birthday party with my school friends Tim and Jared,
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and we all wanted to go to this bar in
Melbourne Saratoga at midnight, and not everyone could get into that.
They went to like the Ark down the road, the
little Dirgy Pub down the road. They were my young
birthday stuff. But I just liked it on birthdays. My
nan Dorothy, who's on our fridge, she always says, what
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you do on your birthday, you do all year round.
So I like this energy of just like having a
slow morning with you. We're going to go for a
walk later, get great green juices, have a lovely Martini
out like I like the energy of just like marching
to the beat of my own drum on my birthday.
Like love, I've done birthdays where I have just like
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gone and booked myself like a little Airbnb and a
chuka on my own. I'm single. I think that's when
you wrote to me. Yeah, and like just being in
nature and being on my own, like I love just
like really like dialing it back on my birthday. And
I am the kind of person that like, if I
was acting right now and hon a set and working
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as a working actor on a set right now, that
would be the perfect birthday. Yeah, like or being at
the Emmys tonight. Oh, that would be my favorite birthday ever.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Yeah, that'd be cool. What would twenty year old you
think about where you are now in life? Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
At twenty I thought I was going to have like
two kids. By thirty seven. That was what I had
that in my head. Yeah, I was like, I'm gonna
have two kids. I thought I would have been married, divorced,
and remarried. I literally thought that, yeah, because that's what
I grew up with.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Remember I'm still time for you ha ha. No.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
No, I literally thought like I would have married two kiddos,
didn't know where I wanted to live. But see, remember
I only went to America like late twenties, and that's
when I started falling in love with America. And that's
when I was like, oh, no, I'm going to move
to America. So like I think my early twenties, like
I romanticized other Like I had a lot of women
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influences in my life, like older than me, and like
I romanticize their value system.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Yeah, and it's back to that same thing.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
And I like but like as I got into my
later twenties, like I started realizing how much career it
was such an important value to me and like something
that I wanted to honor. So I think in my
thirties that perception completely changed.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Love it all? Right, This is question ten or I
only ten questions in Is there a moment in your
life that would say that is there a sorry, let
me start again. Is there a moment in your life
that you would say defines who you are today? So
a singular moment, I think jumping out of the plane skydiving, Yeah,
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that changed something for you.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
No, but I think like feeling the fear and doing
it anyway, I think that's what I do a lot,
like or like doing the uncomfortable thing. Although that said,
like I am best when I feel relaxed in fearful situations. Yeah,
but I was so scared once I said yes to skydiving.
I remember my hands be sweating for like a week
in advance anytime someone mentioned it. Yeah, it was very visceral,
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but I remember after doing it I felt so alive
and euphoorch that I think that that's something I value, Like,
I like doing things that scare me and coming out the.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Other side of them. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
So that's why I'm saying like skydiving has been a good,
like little litmus for me because I like that feeling.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
Love that. All Right, what's something you've always dreamed of
doing but haven't gotten to yet.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Okay, I know exactly the answer for this. I don't
know if I'll do it though, because as I research it,
it might not be as fun as I think. So again,
I'm obviously a romanticizer. In Norway, you can swim in
the wild with auc whales, But here's my grit.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
It's dark water.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Yeah, I don't like blackwater, and I don't think if
I'm just going to see a stripe of white whip
past me. I don't think that's going to be fulfilling,
whereas in you can go to Canada and kayak with them,
and so I feel like that might be my happy medium,
and I thought that'd be fun adventure to do with
Noel Smith.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
I feel like.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Dad and I would do that together. Although he's terrible
to tandem kayak with you because he doesn't he just
leans back and he's he's the kind of bless your
soul Nol Smith, but he's the kind of person who
would topple the boat.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Yeh.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
The amount of times is like on what just we've done.
We've gone kayaking twice together in Byron Bay to go
out and find the giant green sea turtles and dolphins.
But there is a lot of sharks out and Byron Bay,
like people have died of shark attacks. And there's this
one bit out deep where there's this one bit out
deep where if you're feeling sea sick, they let people
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get in the water because it helps you with your
sea sickness. Yeah, because you're not on the boat rocking,
you're actually in the water. And Dad doesn't get sea sick. Oh,
I might just I might just jump in the water,
And I was like, absolutely not, he'll He'll.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Done the whole boat. Yeah, yeah, I love your dad,
but you would. Yeah. Okay, you're losing track of your
question now twelve. What's one of the most significant lessons
you've learned over the years.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
Oh, this is going to sound really morbid, but like
in the business side of the entertainment industry, I learned
really early on that I'm a dollar sign, and so
like understanding the value of like when people sign you,
if people want to work with you, you're a value.
You're literally a financial value to people. So it's understanding
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what that is and it's like realize realizing that people
will work with you because they think you're of value
to them, as opposed to My mistake was I would
make friends with everyone, gotcha. So that was a big
one for me. Also, when I owned this mini bar,
say mistake, I thought everyone was my friend.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
What's a goal you're especially proud of achieving.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
I think this year, like being on a being shooting
the pilot and being an actor on a working film
set was like a really nice like moment of like
actually acting as something I've been training nine years now,
you know what I mean, like actually living that Still
that dream still feels quite far away, if I'm honest,
because like I haven't been on a working acting set since.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
But like that felt like a real like energy shift. Yeah,
does that makes sense? Love it? This is just a
general one. But how do you actually feel about turning forty?
Are you excited, nervous, something else?
Speaker 1 (24:59):
No. I said to Matt last night, I said this
to your boss. I just want to be myself. Yeah,
like I want to like give zero. You're so good
at that, like not caring about I still get like
a bit of guilt if I say no to something,
a bit of peer pressure. If I'm out and someone's
having a veno and I don't really want one, whereas
you would be so comfortable going no, I'm not drinking
(25:21):
at the moment or now, I don't really feel like drinking.
I did it once the other day, which is when
my mate I hung up with my mate Pip just
like can we get a veno? And I was like yeah,
I was like, I'm actually like I taught yoga back
to back that day in the heat, and I was like,
I'm super de high do you care if I don't
get a veno because alcohol obviously dehydrates more. Can I
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get a green juice? But like the rumination I still
did in the lead up fucked me for a little while.
So I just really want to care less about what
other people think of me and just run my own race.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
So there's no point spending that much time overthinking and
wasting time. Which do you know I do? Yeah? I
mean I used to do it too.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
I had to, like, well forty formidable and forty boot
not doing.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Anything formidable forty Yeah, I love that. Okay? And what
did I just ask you? What skill? Talent? Okay? What
skill or talent you've developed over the years that you're
proud of?
Speaker 1 (26:24):
I mean, I'm very good at organizing things like off
the chain, good like I have an itinerary already for
our way.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
I know. I love to research. What am I really
good at? Something you've developed over time? A skill? Ah? Oh?
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Can I tell you what it is? And I learned
it as being an Australian here in America. There was
another colleague who told me this, and I didn't know
that I could do this, But now that I've sat
in more serious business meetings, since I think I can
disarm people.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Oh yeah, that's good. That's a good one, do you
know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (27:11):
Yeah, Like, I don't know if it's this driving accent thing,
but I can be serious and crack a joke and
not care if it lands or not and sit in
that space and disarm. And my other skill that the
podcast has trained me in is to make people feel
comfortable very quickly, because the pot when you're doing a
filmed pod, people get really anxious and nervous because there's
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cameras everywhere, and I'll quickly kind of like drop into
their energy and just kind of like make them feel safe.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
I would say I'm good at that too. Love that.
What's something you've always wanted to master but haven't had
the chance to yet? A couple of things.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
I went through a bit of a phase of wanting
to learn Spanish. Don't know why, but I haven't done that.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
I do not know this about you.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
No, well, I think that that dream went before you,
and I remember met.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
I'm sure you're a linguist. I'm not. You might be
a cunning linguist.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
That's very this is a family podcast, that's right. The
other thing, oh, you threw me off with that dirty joke,
just so you know.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Sorry.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
The other thing I've always wanted to swim in sharks
obviously haven't done that yet.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
No, something to master, like an instrument to language, doing
Russian dancing, I would.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
I'd love to be better at lake film editing because
of now the pod being so visual.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
I feel like that's achievable. Though. What has been your
biggest challenge so far and how did you overcome it?
Eating disorder therapy? Okay, nice one, all right, what's your
proudest personal achievement outside of work or career. There's a
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proud personal achievement. I'd say falling in love with you.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
That's not an achievement though, Okay, well, probably what I said,
like building a really nice relationship with my parents through
like learning to Like I think in your thirties you
go through this phase of like thinking that any trauma
or stuff you've gone through when you're younger, you kind
of blame on them. It's some weird fucking thing we
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do in our thirties. Do you know that? Do you
find that? And I think doing therapy has allowed me
to like fill all those feels but also then lay
no blame over time.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Obviously.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
When I was in my twenties, I blamed them for sure. Yeah,
I say that, nice relationship with my parents.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
I would say, is that a good answer? I love that.
Are you texting boob? No, not at all, looks like
he is. Okay, so these are nostalgic questions. Now, okay,
what was your favorite thing to do when you were
in your twenties? And then your favoriting to do you're
in your thirties, thirties?
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Oh no, the twenties, I will say, anytime I had
a down day, I would watch three things. Pirates of
the Caribbean one, two, and three, Yeah, Steve Ewen videos, Yeah,
and Jamie Oliver videos, specifically Jamie Oliver at home because
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he cooks from his garden and the kids are so
tiny and so cute.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
Are you texting boo? No, I'm not texting. What are
you doing? What about your thirties? Are you in your forties?
Stop getting don't get frustrated with other people. What was
something I did? It's a to do a thing to
do when you're in your thirties, I would say, go
to the movies. Okay, yeah, you do love that?
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Love it because the energy of movie making is so important.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
What's a song that brings you back to your younger year?
What's like in nostalgic? I'm not.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
I'm not a nostalgic. Like you keep singing the One
Tree Hill song over and over.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
The last few times. That's only because I heard it.
But what is that song? I can't remember? I don't.
Maybe I can't, I can't.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
Every night he keeps singing it, I'm like, that's off
One Tree Hill? Like, oh, be able to know what
songs are from, like the OC soundtrack, all of that
that takes me back?
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Do you know what takes me back? The Eer soundtrack?
Do you remember that song? That theme song? And also
X Files because they're the yeah, because they're the song
the shows.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
My mum would let me stab on Thursday nights and
watch ye yeah X Files is scary scary for my Yeah,
I used bit so scared, but I loved it.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
Mum would let me.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
And because Mum had gestational diabetes, every now and then
she'd have to check my brother and me's blood, so
you go to a few prick test to just check
your blood sugar levels.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
And one night she.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
Was really good at like manipulating you into doing hard
stuff by going you can watch X files after oh
yeah yeah, and so I'd have to give her my blood,
like do my fingerprick tests to check blood glucose levels
and then to be like all right, Scully and Molder,
you can watch X files.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Yeah yeah, Okay, this's a funny one. What was your
go to fashion trend back in the day.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
I worked at a clothing store called Stevie on Grevel Street,
and I had a mohawk and I had shaved side,
like the sides of my head were shaved. I had
leopard print hair extensions and baby blue hair extensions, and
I used to wear glitter, like a glitter little like
thing tied around my head.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
And then I would have I would go to.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Office works and buy stencils and put like stencils down
my face like boy George, because I was trained to
makeup artists well. And people used to call me when
I go out because they also dj' people used to
call me that's Pokehontus on acid.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
Yeah yeah, yeah. I was a wild child. Wow child.
This is a good question. What's the most unforgettable trip
you've taken? Oh, in your forty years? I love travel.
I love it.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
I'm a Sagittarius for rising guys, that's my love adventure. Okay,
although I'm not friends with this person anymore. I did
love going to the Maldives or Maldives that's the coo
last one with whale sharks. But I'm not close with
I took a girlfriend and we're not buttos anymore, which
is like quite sad. That's one thing in your thirties
that no one prepares you for. Friendship breakups. I would say,
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but I loved going to the Maldives. I loved going
to New York for the first time. Oh yeah, I
love Hawaii. Yeah, yeah, I love traveling. But yeah, I
would say my first trip, my first work trip Hawaii
because I went to Hawaii as a kid. My first
work trip to Hawaii. I remember I was doing a
photo shoot with you know, Malanie, Gorgeous Melanie, and that
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was really cool because that was a real moment where
I felt like I was coming into myself. And I
learned to stand up paddleboard that trip too, and it
was so cool because I was there doing a shoot,
but then also I was like doing my own trip
for myself, and I love that trip. Yeah, that was
really that was really important. But also the Maldives it
was so cool, Like I got it was a six
week holiday, no joke, and it was I had to
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teach each hotel group how to use Instagram, and I
was allowed to bring my bestie at the time. And
so we went to Maldives, then three different locations in Mauritius,
and then Reunion Island, which is this a little French
island and we like hiked, like I said, swam with
whale sharks.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
It was so much fun. I love it. What TV
show or movie to find your childhood or teens.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
Teens would be the OC or Dawson's Creek for sure. Childhood,
Like I'm still scared when I see memes of Witches.
Do you remember the Rods Witches? So I remember watching that.
We had a family friend, my mum, her best friend Fiona.
She had kiddos the same age as my brother Tristan
(35:21):
and I but sheared three kiddos and every Christmas we'd
go there a week before Christmas, go berry picking. They
live in this place called winchle See. But the kid
that was a similar age to me is Felicity. And
we would watch movies like those nineties movies over like
Never Ending Story, Lost, what's that one with the dinosaurs?
Speaker 2 (35:42):
Lost? Something?
Speaker 1 (35:43):
Rather but like Narnia, all those cool fantasy shows. And
we had a thing where you'd watch a movie and
you'd sit on your legs so your needs to be
bent underneath you and it'd be the first person to
get pins and needles in their legs and then you'd
have to walk around and your legs wouldn't work. It
was so fun, but you know you'd be falling all
over the floor.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
That's funny. Yeah. Do you remember your eighteenth birthday? I
think you touched on it before you had a joint.
And we snuck into this club in Melbourne. All right,
so we'll get next time. Do you know what your
first concert? Yes? Dad took me to Alanis Morrish It
that's hilarious. How old were you? I don't know, like thirteen,
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that's cute.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
And then also Dad also took us to John Farnham.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
Oh yeah, Tristan and I John.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
I feel like that was linked to an event though,
like the tennis or Grand Prix or football or something,
and Dad took us to that. Yeah. We're a huge
football family. Football is a huge part of my upbringing
to AFL. What was your favorite toy or game growing up?
I had a FURBI, I had a Tamagotchi. But I
had this and I still have it and I know
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it because Dad facetimed me yesterday. I had this toy
from when I was a kid called Monk, and it's
a big big monkey about the site, like bigger than
me as a kid, and Dad wanted at the Melbourne
show and we've still got it. Yeah, Monk, and it
had a little had a little t shirt on it
that I used to suck my thumb and have to
rub the material between my like it was some weird
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sensory like kept me calm thing.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
Does that make sense? Yeah? Yeah, Oh this is this
is an interesting question. Romance. Yeah, because you just gave
me that voice. I know. Do you remember your first love? Yeah?
Of course, who everyone does? And what was that experience?
Speaker 1 (37:34):
Like it was really nice because and I've written about
this in Phelasly Failing, Uh, there was ten years between
my love with him and meeting you, and you're both
music producers and you were a DJ at the time
when I met you, and so it was really interesting
because basically he was an amazing creative together like four
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years or something, and you're an amazing creative. But everyone
I dated between knew too wasn't necessarily a creative. Like
there were engineers and like businessmen and all that, and
like there was always something where I found it so
hard to like connect on a deep level.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
You need creative.
Speaker 1 (38:13):
Yeah, And I remember after I met you, I walked
into Terry, my therapist's office or room, and I was like,
oh my god, Terry, I think I'm meant to be
with the creative.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
And he was like, no fucking shit, yeah, and started laughing.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
And it's like, that's what's so cool about my first
love because when we ended, we ended on beautiful terms,
but he was like, this is the love you need to.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
Remember because the bar needs to be.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
Set high and as unfair as it might have been
for everyone else until I met you, Essentially I would
be like my first love's name was Kane, and I
would be like, they're no Caine comparing, like, which I
know sounds, but I think it was the more the
creativity and this the spirit that he captured, and I
think you in capture that spirits as well.
Speaker 2 (39:01):
Yeah, does that make sense how does that make you feel?
Speaker 1 (39:04):
By the way hearing that, Yeah, good, fine, What did
you remember your first love?
Speaker 2 (39:10):
Like, first girlfriend, first love? I don't know, like it, No,
you're definitely really yeah, No, i'd be real. No, I
think I think like first two girlfriends were you know,
some semblance of love probably like yeah, my like the
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second girlfriend, which was like the serious one when I
was like twenty or something like that, that was like
she wasn't like someone that like I'll compare anything to.
But I did remember comparing the next and next two
relationships to her. Yeah, But then that was a big
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lesson for me because I was like, well, actually I'm
comparing to a made up version of it, and to
just actually not compare people and just meet people for
who they are totally.
Speaker 1 (40:12):
And that's what I think I mean when I say,
like the creative spirit that you my first love have, Yeah,
I think that's what I was missing in all my
other relationships.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
Ye, that creativity.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
Yeah, and I think like a free spirit yeah as well.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
Yeah, yeah, no, I like that. Yeah, I don't know,
maybe it's a bit different for me. I suppose.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
No, I think what you said makes but I think
you and I both big into like mental health work,
and I think that also has a huge impact on how.
Speaker 2 (40:42):
You look at past love totally. Yeah, yeah, yeah, And look,
I mean you can't regret any of it, can you.
You know, what are you most excited about for the
next decade of your life? Say, forty to fifty?
Speaker 1 (40:58):
Oh my goodness, I have so many like dreams and
wishes that I just so badly want to live out
with you. I think this is a really important decade too,
because I think forty to fifty, you've got your touch wood,
you're at your health, you got your vitality, you're at
your sharps, you got your focus. So like you can
move mountains in this decade if you want, don't you think. Ye.
Speaker 2 (41:21):
Also, we don't have kiddos.
Speaker 1 (41:24):
Which means we have time like as in our days,
aren't like changing diapers or nappies and saving money for
schooling and education. Like, we can invest in ourselves right now.
And I think that is like such a gift.
Speaker 2 (41:44):
And I don't want to bandy the word privilege around.
Speaker 1 (41:46):
But like how lucky that we get to be Like, Okay,
let's go gung ho at this dream that we don't
want to leave anything on the table. We want to
like have no regret. So you've taught me to show,
not tell us. I'm not going to list all my
dreams out right now, but I know that I would
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like to think when we look back in ten years
time that we have fucking move mountains and fully lived
fully Like really given this such a red hot shake
and such a crack.
Speaker 2 (42:23):
I love it. Well, what is actually one thing you
hope to accomplished by the time you're fifty? That was
my next question. Well do you want do you want
me to just say just one thing? Just go one
one thing. This is gonna sound really selfish, but I'd
love to win an Emmy. Okay.
Speaker 1 (42:44):
I'd also love a ranch. Oh yeah, I would love
ask to have a ranch somewhere. Whether it's Montana, Wyoming,
Byron Bay, Hinterland, or one in each would be nice.
Speaker 2 (42:56):
But i'd love a ranch with you. Yeah, that's actually
not that hard. We could do that in the next
like two years. Do you reckon a Yeah, we're here
or there in Byron we could easily. Yeah, you know,
I've already got property there so we can look at
you little mogul. Oh yeah, all right, is there anything
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you wish to leave behind in your Oh no, that's
anything you wish to leave behind in your thirties as
you enter forties.
Speaker 1 (43:30):
Self doubt, self judgment, and as my therapist keeps telling me,
you need to love yourself so that you put yourself first.
I'll always hold people on pedestals.
Speaker 2 (43:41):
We're really lucky.
Speaker 1 (43:42):
We have some really successful friends, and you're amazing at
seeing them as equals. But I'll be like, oh my god,
and I'll hold them on a pedestal and like see
all the Emmys on the wall or see all the
Golden Globes on the wall, and be like, oh, like
I let it kind of like I think I'm less
than them, Yeah, so I need to.
Speaker 2 (44:01):
Let that go. That's them living their life, yeah, and
achieving goals in their life. It doesn't mean that they're
like better than you or need to be on a
fucking pedestal totally.
Speaker 1 (44:12):
But that's a mistake I think I have definitely made
in the last like a few years for sure, which
I want to leave.
Speaker 2 (44:20):
Well, that leads into the next question, what's one piece
of wisdom you hope to pass to a younger generation.
Speaker 1 (44:26):
Yeah, like, don't comp yourself to others. My acting coach
here is says comparison is cancer for creatives.
Speaker 2 (44:34):
That's true.
Speaker 1 (44:34):
Yeah, so don't comp yourself and don't think you're less
than anyone else.
Speaker 2 (44:39):
Yeah. If you could take a year off to travel
or pursue a passion, what would you do.
Speaker 1 (44:46):
Oh well, I really want you to take me to Italy. Yeah,
I think that'd be sick, like live in Italy for
a little while. I think that'd be really nice if
we had like bound endless cash. Yeah, I would love
to like yeah, get married in like Wyoming on Montana and.
Speaker 2 (45:08):
Just bring everyone over for everyone to come.
Speaker 1 (45:11):
Yeah. But I or like even Byron but yeah, ah,
there's a lot of places I want to travel to,
Like I really want to go to the Cotswolds.
Speaker 2 (45:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (45:21):
I think you and I should plan to do that
in the next few years. I think that'd be so fun.
Speaker 2 (45:25):
Well, I think if we do Europe, we would do
it in that that period, like Devn the Cotswolds like
all that.
Speaker 1 (45:31):
I've done big chunks in the UK before, but I
never got out to that real like romantic like farm.
Speaker 2 (45:38):
Like that little like I just fund holiday. Yeah. Yeah,
that's like one.
Speaker 1 (45:43):
Yeah, that's like one moment, but like that, just like
the being in the English countryside.
Speaker 2 (45:48):
We've never really done that.
Speaker 1 (45:49):
Yeah uh, and like some of the TV shows we see,
Like we watched this show recently it was all shot
in Yosemite.
Speaker 2 (45:55):
Like next year, I want to go to Usemite.
Speaker 1 (45:58):
Like just I really, I really want to, Like I
don't want to waste all so this gift that we've
got to live in America and just spend the whole
time in lay.
Speaker 2 (46:06):
Like I want to move around.
Speaker 1 (46:07):
I want to get a job shooting somewhere cool, or
like you get a job working out in New York
and we got to New York for a couple months.
Speaker 2 (46:14):
I want to do all that. Yeah, love love it.
What new habit or hobby would you like to develop
in the next few years?
Speaker 1 (46:28):
So I'm a yogi. You probably know this about me. Sorry,
I meant the listener. I meant the listener.
Speaker 2 (46:35):
I think the listener knows this well. Jesus Christ. But
I used to be really like some new information.
Speaker 1 (46:41):
I usually really good at back bends. Yeah, and I
used to be able.
Speaker 2 (46:45):
To send also be good at talking into the microphone
and not waving it around.
Speaker 1 (46:51):
It's my birthday. You don't get to be mean to me, boo,
not that that's mean. I used to be able to
do a drop back, which is where you go from
standing and you just like drop back into a backbend
a new land in a wheel. And I used to
be able to do it walking down the wall, Like
so you walk, use the wall to walk back into
a drop back. Be cool to retrain myself to do that,
because we say in yoga, healthy spine, healthy life. So
(47:14):
I want to reprioritize my yoga. But that's like I
can do that tomorrow. That's not something that feels too
hard to achieve. You can kind of kick that in
like two weeks of doing yoga every day.
Speaker 2 (47:24):
Flat out okaol. I don't know if this is like
a bit of like a morbid question, but I do
feel like we're probably at the halfway mark of our lives,
you know, like not as if we're going to like
die in forty years, but have you thought about like
your retirement years.
Speaker 1 (47:48):
I am definitely someone that want to work, wants to
work till the day they die.
Speaker 2 (47:52):
I think that's you of being an actor.
Speaker 1 (47:54):
I definitely am an overthinker and warrior. And like I
was actually talking to last night, and I was like,
I really want to make some health choices in the
next like from turning forty, where I just pull certain
things back because I said Dad, like, I don't want
to be inflamed. I want to feel vital, and I
live that way most of the time. But if I'm
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having a stressful day or totally eat something sugary or
I'll you know, have an extra glass of vino or
something like that, and I'm just like, no, Like, I
feel like forty is the decade that you have to
really give a shit about your health. And I know,
like you and I do weights a couple of days
a week, and I don't know if you've noticed, but
I start hanging at the end of every session, and
(48:38):
there's this anti aging thing that like how good your
grip strength is. I've heard that, Yeah, and I can
only hang for thirty seconds. I used to be able
to do like two minutes. So I really want to
build that, like those like habits that help with longevity. Now,
I think this is the decade You've got to like
move the needle a little bit.
Speaker 2 (48:57):
Yeah, I love that. Okay, what would you like your
legacy to be?
Speaker 1 (49:06):
I would love to win an Emmy or multiple and
then go and teach other young actors how to maguiver
the entertainment industry because it's so brutal and hard. So
I'd love to write a book about it. I'd love
to go into acting schools and teach young kids. Like
when I say young kids, like people in their twenties
(49:27):
that have just finished acting school. Like, I don't think
people teach the business side of the entertainment industry at all.
So to be so cool or like to set up
a foundation or something that helps younger actors like not
be like so many actors are talented, but they just
don't know how to do the business side of it.
And I would say, from what I've learned in LA,
(49:49):
eighty percent is the business side, say the business twenty
percent is like have you got the goods? And even
if you've got don't have the goods? If you're nice,
you can get rebooked. Yeah, So like I just think
I like that. I want to go out and do
that crazy, hard thing and then share how I did it.
Whether that's education, whether that's books, I don't know. But
I want to help other people fulfill their dreams, which
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is why this whole podcast exists.
Speaker 2 (50:14):
Love it. If you could have a superpower in your forties,
what would it be. I'd love to be able to
heal people. Be pretty cool. Oh yeah, like ping pin
sawney ping ping, You're good. Yeah, I'd love to how to.
Speaker 1 (50:30):
Heal people like dad's got saw, like joints and stuff.
I'd love to how to.
Speaker 2 (50:33):
Heal all that. Yeah, yeah, all right. If you were
to write a memoir, what would the title be? Isn't
philis failing that? Well? I don't think half memoir a
little bit, but like what would it like? What would
a memoir be of your life? I mean I probably
(50:54):
can't do this, but do the shit you love? Oh yeah,
I mean yeah yeah, just do the stuff you love
and forget about the rest. Like, just do the stuff
you love. I always thought that if I was a
right one, I would call it it's all in your head.
That's really cool. It's fucking all in your head. Yeah,
the only plays it exists in your fucking head. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (51:15):
I like, like, I like to do something around bravery too,
like feeling that fear and doing it anyway, like the
gift of bravery, or like cultivating bravery and courage around that.
Speaker 2 (51:26):
Yeah, yeah, I love that. This is the call. It's
a little bit of fun. One. Who would you invite
to your dream dinner party? Living, living or living or dead?
Oh that's so easy, Steve Ewen? Okay, just you and Steve. Well,
how many am I allowed a dinner party? You can
have as many as you.
Speaker 1 (51:44):
Want, okay, Steve Ewen, Leonardo DiCaprio, Brad Hits.
Speaker 2 (51:48):
Jesus Christ sounds like your no boss.
Speaker 1 (51:53):
Don't make some dirty sex joke because that what you're
about to do. Johnny Depp would probably make it in there.
Who's that actor that I love of Sakario Benito.
Speaker 2 (52:08):
Benicio del Toro. Yeah, I reckon he be a bit
of fun. Yeah. What about Marcus Mumford.
Speaker 1 (52:15):
And Kerry Mulligan. I feel like I would love them
both there? Actually, yes, absolutely he can. He can play
a tune if he feels so inclined.
Speaker 2 (52:24):
What about no other musicians?
Speaker 1 (52:26):
Yeah, hang on, hang on, Johnny Cash, Elvis, of course
they're my two.
Speaker 2 (52:32):
I was going to say Johnny Cash. You know how
much I love Johnny.
Speaker 1 (52:34):
Cash makes me emotional thinking about him.
Speaker 2 (52:39):
I think that's a pretty good hang on, hang on,
hang on, hang on, hang on.
Speaker 1 (52:49):
I feel like there'd be some sick like be cool
to throw a cool composer in there, because you and
I are obsessed with scores.
Speaker 2 (52:58):
With John Williams. Yeah, John Williams be cool. But even
what's her name? Hilda Good and a daughter? Yeah, that'd
be cool. I'm going to throw in I wouldn't mind meeting.
Speaker 1 (53:19):
And this is just because we've been watching so much
of his work, But Seth Rogan, I feel like he's
a bit of a mogul. He's really cool and he
stands up for what he believes in.
Speaker 2 (53:31):
Yeah, and I like his relationship with his wife. I
like them. They've been teammates forever. Yeah, yeah, I love that.
And her name's Laurence. Oh is it? That's cute? That's
my name. Second last question, what's your guilty pleasure when
you need a break from everything? I feel like I
know the answer to this. Go to the movies? Yeah,
is that what you're going to say? While that and
like watching clips of like like concepts of like oh,
(53:54):
Marcus Mumfort Malmford and Sons and stuff like that. Yeah,
it was so do I need like courage?
Speaker 1 (54:00):
Watched Marcus Monthford because he feels like he just lives
one hundred percent of truth, and so I love watching
him because it just feels so real, especially yeah, if
I've got to like when I had to put in
my notice at work, I watched I remember I watched
his Stagecoach performance. And also we went to the show
(54:24):
this year and I cried how many times it was amazing?
Speaker 2 (54:27):
So good. Okay, this is your last question. Oh wow, okay, okay,
question forty for forty at forty yes I love you
forty questions yes I'll marry you. Yeah, okay, well that's
not on it that we question forty one, which you
don't have time for today. If you could have dinner
with your twenty year old self, what advice would you
(54:47):
give them?
Speaker 1 (54:49):
Do whatever you love. Trust your intuition. It doesn't let
you down. And don't take on other people's opinion of
you or other people's like people put their own value
system on you, don't take it on. Let it like
be like literally water off a duck's back, and your
(55:11):
intuition is rarely wrong.
Speaker 2 (55:12):
Like trust that.
Speaker 1 (55:14):
Trust the intuition, like if something feels off or if
you feel like depleted after you hang out with someone,
like trust that. Then notice how you feel when you
hang out with people that are like very hope filled
and I think, like, use your gut and your intuition
as a guide.
Speaker 2 (55:29):
It won't let you down.
Speaker 1 (55:31):
Do not take on other people's crap when it links
to your You can be a great friend to someone
without taking on their version of what you need to
do and their value system.
Speaker 2 (55:46):
That's really important. I love that. Yeah, that's a really
nice way to wrap up, boss. Thanks. Well, do you
want to answer that question? What is it? What did
I ask if you sat down with a twenty year
old version of you? I think that I was completely
ruled by fear. Yeah, so I would say, like, what
(56:13):
would be the right wording to say to my twenty
year old self, like not get over it, but more
like you know, this is all in your head, like
fear is the fear is yeah not real or yeah
really yeah, it's like you're like you're not in danger,
(56:35):
you're not going to die, You're not like being chased
by And I mean that's the problem with having anxiety
as well. You know, all those feelings seems so real
and your body has that reaction, but it's just like
do you know what it's It's actually all going to
be fine.
Speaker 1 (56:50):
Isn't there some stat like ninety percent of what we
worry about doesn't even happen.
Speaker 2 (56:54):
Yeah, exactly, But like legit, if I could just be like,
it's all gonna be fine, Matt, like you are going
to be fine, and you are like everything that you're
about to do nothing is like so bad that it's
like you're gonna die. Yeah, you know it's so, I
would just be like, it's a bravery piece.
Speaker 1 (57:14):
Just yeah, I think yours is a bravery piece and
mine is probably a self confidence piece, I would say.
Speaker 2 (57:20):
But I think the underlying matching thing is like get
out of your own head, yeah, and live in the world. Yeah,
get out of the way, you know. So Yeah, Okay, Hey,
happy fortieth but happy forty earth.
Speaker 1 (57:32):
I love you, love you, thank you for the listeners,
Thanks for imagine if the pod goes for another forty years.
Speaker 2 (57:41):
He's hoping. Yeah, there's no intention of it.
Speaker 1 (57:44):
I didn't meet with my pop manager last week, and
she's like, I know, three episodes a week all through Christmas,
no breaks, You're the only podcast, no breaks?
Speaker 2 (57:52):
All right, love love you, Happy birthday, Bye Happy.
Speaker 1 (58:02):
That's a wrap on another episode of Fearlessly failing as always.
Thank you to our guests and let's continue the conversation
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Speaker 2 (58:16):
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Get a I'm Lola Berry, nutritionist, author, actor, TV presenter,
and professional oversharer. This podcast is all about celebrating failure
because I believe it's a chance for us to learn,
grow and face our blind spots. Each week, I'll interview
a different guest about their.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Highs as well as their lows, all.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
In a bid to inspire us to fearlessly fail.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Welcome Lola Berry to your very own fortieth birthday podcast
episode Thanks Boobye, titled forty Questions at forty? Can we
just paint the picture for everyone?
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Yeah, I'm here in my Jimmy's on my fortieth birthday,
coffee in hand. Yeah, looking at the love of my life. Ah,
that's nice, hopless. Yeah, you got not much clothes on. Yeah,
and you also turned forty, my dear friend, in two days.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Two days. Yes, and we have a very fun day
planned for you. Yes, we do.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Do you want to share or no? Ah, keep it
a surprise. Now we can share. We're getting tattoos.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
I hope my dad doesn't hear that. He's going to
find out soon enough. All over the interwebs, How are you?
How do you feel this morning? So my motto is
what's my word.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Forty formidable, formidable and forty not thirty and flirty because
I got my love. Ah, yes, you came in from
my thirty first to thirty second birthday.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Did I? Yeah? Ah shit, So we've been together a
fair while. Yeah? Is it seven years this year? I
love that he pretends it does. It's killer. Is this
going to be eight years? I actually don't know, if
I'm honest. The other I think, Wow, I'm glad that
(02:07):
we got this one recording that you don't know. Anyway,
we got to we've got to crack on because it
is your birthday. Yes, you are forty years old today.
Do you want to say what you're doing for me tonight?
We're going to Chateau my mom for a little martini,
for a little date. Yes, yes we are. If you
don't know what Chateau Mamon is, it's a famous hotel,
(02:30):
bar restaurant in Hollywood. In Yeah, it's on sunset, but
it's like super famous.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Like I've oh my god, I have been, boo you have. Yeah,
I went to a party there. What this whole time,
I'm like, I've never been. I've never been.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
I just had a flashback.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
I went there for drinks like I had a party. Theyah,
like I went in, partied and left and went on
to the next location.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Yeah, but it's it's like a super famous Hollywood hotel, like.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Like Leonardo DiCaprio had his twenty first birthday there, Like
Jimmy Hendrix have a room there, Johnny Mitchell, like all
these incredible people.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
It's like where Lindsay Lohan went on her like month
on Drug Bender. It's like, you know, there's stories of
like you know, rock stars riding their motorbikes through the
that's right through the lobby. I think it was like
led Zeppelin or something that like rode their bikes through
the lobby and yeah, all that all that kind of stuff.
So it's like super famous, but it's also super cool. Nice.
(03:31):
All right, let's start on these questions. Are you ready
for him? I do have forty questions, so we're going
to have to power through them. We can't really dilly dally.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Do you want me If a question I can't think
of the answer too straight away because I haven't seen them,
just should go onto the next yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
To save time. Yeah, and what if.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
It's a really poignant question, I think you should answer
it too, because you're.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
About to say, yeah, then you can throw it back
to me, but I'll answer it, you know, snappy, okay, snappy?
All right, here we go? You ready, Yeah, all right,
here we go. What is the most surprising thing you've
learned about yourself in the last forty years.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
I'm probably more adaptable than I first realized I would be. Yeah, like,
you can usually put me into a situation. I'll be
able to oh freak, but I'll still be able to
do it.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Do you know what I mean? Yeah? I like that adaptable.
What are you? Yeah? I think that I'm probably more
fearless than I ever thought you are. Yeah, well, yeah, okay.
Question two, if you could go back to your twenties,
(04:46):
would you do anything differently?
Speaker 1 (04:49):
I mean, if we're being really honest, all my twenties
was riddled with an eating disorder, so I'd probably love
to I started therapy at thirty. I reckon if I
got into or found the right fit of a therapist earlier,
because I did try in my late twenties when I
lived in Sydney. It just wasn't the right fit. I
(05:11):
guess if I met my current therapist, who I've been
with since thirty in my twenties. I think I would
have been able to deal with that a lot quicker.
So my advice would be give less hoots about what
people think of you, especially in the physical realm, because
they're always going to judge you if you've got a
(05:31):
job that is like front facing.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Yeah, understand, girl, that's good answer. What was your biggest
fear when you were younger and how do you feel
about it now?
Speaker 1 (05:44):
I mean, it's really lucky to admit this. My biggest
fear was putting on weight, That's truly. That was my
big fear. Like I have skydive, I have, you know,
I would I've swam with like giant green sea turtles,
knowing full well that there were sharks below me. You know, like,
(06:04):
I've got no probs with that. I was so petrified
of weight. But I'm also a millennial, a child that
grew up in the nineties early two thousands where that
was celebrated. So that would have been my big fear.
Do I fear it now? No, because I want to
feel vital for me and for you.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Happy and healthy. Yeah, we love that. What about you?
What was your fear when you were younger? Ah? Fuck, hell,
we could do a whole podcast just on that. I think, hmmm,
that's my biggest fear. I don't know, to be honest,
but I think it was definitely probably around like family
(06:46):
and leaving, you know, not being close to family and
moving away and all those kinds of things. And now
you can be further away. I could be further away. Thanks,
and yes, thanks to you. And how do I feel
about it now? I'm so happy that I did it.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
We also like invest in making sure we get back
to seeing families like Crimbo stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Yeah. So as much as my biggest fear was like
being away, Like I remember like the first time driving
out of Melbourne feeling emotional.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Cry and then we moved to Byron Bay because I
that day I was like, we're never going back.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
I like to live. You just knew that.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Yeah, Okay, in my heart I was like, this is it.
I would be open to having like a property or
something there one day.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Yeah sure, but yeah, I how do I feel about
it now? I'm glad I did it, took the plunge.
I'm glad that I've gone on a life adventure and
with the family stuff, I feel better and closer and
all those things. With my family.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Rebutt all question what part of Australia feels like home
for you now?
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Byron Bay? Yeah that to me too. Yeah, okay, you'll
give them the long answers. Sorry, I love it. I
love it. What's one of your proudest accomplishments from the
past four decades? Ah, Holy moly.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
I'm a bit of a ambitious go get us, so
I would say I probably haven't achieved it yet, but
things that like highlights that I love that I've done,
Like I love that I've skydived. I mean, achievements like
writing eleven books is a pretty cool thing. This pod
really means a lot to me. It's still a labor
(08:36):
of love, if we're being really really honest about that, Like,
I would love this to be my like what I
do for work all the time, and we do spend
how many hours a week to reckon I spend on
this pod heaps like between ten and twenty right, Yeah,
depending on how many guests we're interviewing, and so, like
you can see how it could be a full time job.
(08:57):
I would love it to be one of the big
ways I make in as well. So i'd say the pod,
the books, and I'm like really on this sounds like
really hippie, and we were like, because I've done so
much work on therapy and like what you were saying
about family, I have really nice relationship with both my
(09:18):
dad and my mom and that's taken time time. Well,
I've always been like a daddy's girl. I've got to
be honest, I've always been like me and my dad
have always been really close. But like me and my mom,
it's we're very We've got the same similarities, we've got
the same fiery personalities, we blow up at the same stuff.
So that's taken work with therapy and really honest conversations
(09:40):
with her to now feel like we're, you know, really
nice friends. And I'm kind of proud of like it
could have gone the other way and it didn't.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
I'm me saying that, mum. But we're in a good spot. Yeah, no,
I agree. I think that's great. Okay, next question, If
you could relive any decade of your life, which one
would it be? And why? Oh my god, this has
made me feel so old. Well it's like, you know,
I mean, yeah, I got forty truth, That's what I mean. Well,
(10:12):
do you know what I thought I'm going to answer
this truthfully.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
I woke up this morning I was like, I think
forties is going to be my favorite decade. Like I
had that feeling, I think this is going to be
And I know everyone says everything happens in your thirties,
like you buy a house, you have the kiddos, da
da da da, it does. And I think you and
I I watched this really cool podcast where they say
life begins at forty and I think for you and
(10:38):
I career wise, like we are putting in so much
work to have careers here in America, and I think
that this is going to be the decade it all
comes to fruition and really comes to life. So I'm
going to actually go ahead and predict that forties is
going to be the best decade.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
So you wouldn't relive any No twenties, No thirties.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
I love, but like twenties is hard, constantly learning, you're
constantly failing, You're constantly falling in and out of love
and getting heartbroken and then questioning your worth. Like I said,
my worth was all tied up in my body image,
So that was hard. Twenties thirties was great, like you
and I made it like We've been together for most
of our thirties and like we've done a lot, We've
(11:21):
achieved a lot. So I would say thirties is been awesome.
Thirties has also been hard. Every time we made money,
we reinvested it in like embryos or.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Like visas or the house.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Like every time we got a chunk of money, we
put it back into something, which I know is what
you're meant to do. But that became like financial stress
is something that I was very aware of in my thirties,
which I wasn't really super aware of in my twenties
because I was writing best selling books and making a
lot of money in royalties and that slowed down in
my thirties. I would say my career was actually harder
(11:58):
in my thirties than it was my twenties. My career
was blowing up because there wasn't that many health all
this more excitement.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Yes, so start at that start of the career. Yeah,
So I'd say I'm pump for forties. Okay, what's the
best piece of advice you've received so far in life?
It's a hard question. I've got two. No, it's very
easy for me. I already this is the shit. I love.
Two one.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
When I interviewed Owen tal on the podcast, he said
a quote from a Hamlet, the readiness is all so
being ready and staying ready. But that's quite a morbid
quote because that quote being ready for death. Yes, always
ready for death. But if you think about it as
a creative, as an actor, as an artist, readiness is
(12:43):
all means like stay ready, like be ready, be ready
because you don't know, like you've seen hiven in the
last week, Like you get I get put on hold
for work stuff, and then you get dropped, and then
you get booked, and then you get put on hold,
and like even when I did a segment on A
me A and TV this past week, remember I said,
I don't even know if it will happen, like you
(13:04):
book get books. You don't know if it happens until
you're physically there at the studio. So staying ready I love.
And the other one is not advice I was ever given.
But as you know, I have a very healthy obsession
with Marcus Mumford of Mumford and Sons. And he says
when he writes, he sets himself the task to be
(13:26):
as honest as possible. And he said like to be
relentlessly honest, and I have carried that through work business,
and I love sitting in that space and communicating from
that space, because when you're living in truth, you don't
need you don't need to worry about your backstory, you
don't need to worry. You're just like, Okay, well this
(13:46):
is where I'm at, this is the truth of the situation,
and this is how I think I need to move forward.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
And you can be exactly who you are. Yeah, like
no filter, no like mask.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
What about you? Best piece of advice I've received? Well,
like quote mantra, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
I feel a little bit different, like like I like
the advice giver, and no one gives me advice. Okay,
well then what's something that you've done to yourself? I
think I think probably Yeah, the advice I give myself
and have given myself is to.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Give less of a shit. Yeah. Oh yeah, you're good
at that. I still get a bit caught up.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Yeah, So like, I really just don't care. I just
love exactly being exactly who I am for whatever it is,
like the good, the bad, yea, it is who I am.
Very attractive. Yeah, and I'm going to say something that
will play off your readiness is all like being ready.
(14:53):
I like, I love that and of course like that.
But for me, I put my life off waiting to
be ready. So it's like I won't do that until
I am ready. So it's like I won't do that
thing until I'm good enough, or until I'm ready to
(15:15):
do it, or until you know, I'm prepared, prepared enough
for I know how to write music enough or compose enough.
And I think that I probably lost a lot of
opportunities waiting for that. And my advice would be like,
you never really are fully ready, so you just say
yes and figure it out later. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
So it's like bravery, bravery, Yeah, like just fucking jump.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Yeah. Yeah, I'm a big believer in that as well.
So Okay, how is your definition of success change as
you've grown older?
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Well, it's off the back what you just said. It's
not worrying about external validation. It is much more about
like what is.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Success for me?
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Like you and I have very specific goals here in America,
and it doesn't matter what anyone else thinks of those goals.
What matters is that you and I like as a team,
I think, like know what they are and working towards
them together. It doesn't matter what other people think of
(16:18):
that success or how they judge that success or how
like and obviously you know this, but like being forty,
like a lot of people like, well, are you going
to have a kid and all that, and for many
people that is success. Building a family is a really
important value system. And you and I have talked a lot,
and I'm like, honestly, for me, a baby is like
(16:38):
being on a set and acting and winning an Emmy.
One day, it's Emmy's day here as we record this
in la very fetuitous that my birthday is falling on
Emmy's Day, and so like that is like if you know,
and I've done a lot of work with my therapist
that that is a really important like value to me. Yes,
(17:00):
pod and acting.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Yeah, I don't really see like having a kid as
like a goal or a success.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
But that's that's just our viewpoint and that's why I
think it's like we're honoring our value system and our viewpoint.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Yeah, but that doesn't mean it can't be for someone else,
of course. Yeah, And like I you love being an uncle,
you know what I mean? Like we will FaceTime in
the Kiddo's yesterday. Like you love all that. It just
doesn't mean that that has to be like other people's success,
doesn't have to be our version of success. I think
whatever your success is, honor that, yeah, and whatever that.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Is for you. Yeah, Yeah, I love that. Okay, it's
a little bit of a lighter one looking back. What
was your most memorable birthday celebration?
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Oh, I know, I had a theme party for my
twenty first all I know, I don't know what the
theme was, but I know I wore ski gear, that's
all I know. And for my eighteenth, I had a
joint birthday party with my school friends Tim and Jared,
(18:09):
and we all wanted to go to this bar in
Melbourne Saratoga at midnight, and not everyone could get into that.
They went to like the Ark down the road, the
little Dirgy Pub down the road. They were my young
birthday stuff. But I just liked it on birthdays. My
nan Dorothy, who's on our fridge, she always says, what
(18:31):
you do on your birthday, you do all year round.
So I like this energy of just like having a
slow morning with you. We're going to go for a
walk later, get great green juices, have a lovely Martini
out like I like the energy of just like marching
to the beat of my own drum on my birthday.
Like love, I've done birthdays where I have just like
(18:53):
gone and booked myself like a little Airbnb and a
chuka on my own. I'm single. I think that's when
you wrote to me. Yeah, and like just being in
nature and being on my own, like I love just
like really like dialing it back on my birthday. And
I am the kind of person that like, if I
was acting right now and hon a set and working
(19:14):
as a working actor on a set right now, that
would be the perfect birthday. Yeah, like or being at
the Emmys tonight. Oh, that would be my favorite birthday ever.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Yeah, that'd be cool. What would twenty year old you
think about where you are now in life? Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
At twenty I thought I was going to have like
two kids. By thirty seven. That was what I had
that in my head. Yeah, I was like, I'm gonna
have two kids. I thought I would have been married, divorced,
and remarried. I literally thought that, yeah, because that's what
I grew up with.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Remember I'm still time for you ha ha. No.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
No, I literally thought like I would have married two kiddos,
didn't know where I wanted to live. But see, remember
I only went to America like late twenties, and that's
when I started falling in love with America. And that's
when I was like, oh, no, I'm going to move
to America. So like I think my early twenties, like
I romanticized other Like I had a lot of women
(20:09):
influences in my life, like older than me, and like
I romanticize their value system.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Yeah, and it's back to that same thing.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
And I like but like as I got into my
later twenties, like I started realizing how much career it
was such an important value to me and like something
that I wanted to honor. So I think in my
thirties that perception completely changed.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Love it all? Right, This is question ten or I
only ten questions in Is there a moment in your
life that would say that is there a sorry, let
me start again. Is there a moment in your life
that you would say defines who you are today? So
a singular moment, I think jumping out of the plane skydiving, Yeah,
(20:53):
that changed something for you.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
No, but I think like feeling the fear and doing
it anyway, I think that's what I do a lot,
like or like doing the uncomfortable thing. Although that said,
like I am best when I feel relaxed in fearful situations. Yeah,
but I was so scared once I said yes to skydiving.
I remember my hands be sweating for like a week
in advance anytime someone mentioned it. Yeah, it was very visceral,
(21:19):
but I remember after doing it I felt so alive
and euphoorch that I think that that's something I value, Like,
I like doing things that scare me and coming out the.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Other side of them. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
So that's why I'm saying like skydiving has been a good,
like little litmus for me because I like that feeling.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
Love that. All Right, what's something you've always dreamed of
doing but haven't gotten to yet.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Okay, I know exactly the answer for this. I don't
know if I'll do it though, because as I research it,
it might not be as fun as I think. So again,
I'm obviously a romanticizer. In Norway, you can swim in
the wild with auc whales, But here's my grit.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
It's dark water.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Yeah, I don't like blackwater, and I don't think if
I'm just going to see a stripe of white whip
past me. I don't think that's going to be fulfilling,
whereas in you can go to Canada and kayak with them,
and so I feel like that might be my happy medium,
and I thought that'd be fun adventure to do with
Noel Smith.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
I feel like.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Dad and I would do that together. Although he's terrible
to tandem kayak with you because he doesn't he just
leans back and he's he's the kind of bless your
soul Nol Smith, but he's the kind of person who
would topple the boat.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Yeh.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
The amount of times is like on what just we've done.
We've gone kayaking twice together in Byron Bay to go
out and find the giant green sea turtles and dolphins.
But there is a lot of sharks out and Byron Bay,
like people have died of shark attacks. And there's this
one bit out deep where there's this one bit out
deep where if you're feeling sea sick, they let people
(23:05):
get in the water because it helps you with your
sea sickness. Yeah, because you're not on the boat rocking,
you're actually in the water. And Dad doesn't get sea sick. Oh,
I might just I might just jump in the water,
And I was like, absolutely not, he'll He'll.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Done the whole boat. Yeah, yeah, I love your dad,
but you would. Yeah. Okay, you're losing track of your
question now twelve. What's one of the most significant lessons
you've learned over the years.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
Oh, this is going to sound really morbid, but like
in the business side of the entertainment industry, I learned
really early on that I'm a dollar sign, and so
like understanding the value of like when people sign you,
if people want to work with you, you're a value.
You're literally a financial value to people. So it's understanding
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what that is and it's like realize realizing that people
will work with you because they think you're of value
to them, as opposed to My mistake was I would
make friends with everyone, gotcha. So that was a big
one for me. Also, when I owned this mini bar,
say mistake, I thought everyone was my friend.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
What's a goal you're especially proud of achieving.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
I think this year, like being on a being shooting
the pilot and being an actor on a working film
set was like a really nice like moment of like
actually acting as something I've been training nine years now,
you know what I mean, like actually living that Still
that dream still feels quite far away, if I'm honest,
because like I haven't been on a working acting set since.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
But like that felt like a real like energy shift. Yeah,
does that makes sense? Love it? This is just a
general one. But how do you actually feel about turning forty?
Are you excited, nervous, something else?
Speaker 1 (24:59):
No. I said to Matt last night, I said this
to your boss. I just want to be myself. Yeah,
like I want to like give zero. You're so good
at that, like not caring about I still get like
a bit of guilt if I say no to something,
a bit of peer pressure. If I'm out and someone's
having a veno and I don't really want one, whereas
you would be so comfortable going no, I'm not drinking
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at the moment or now, I don't really feel like drinking.
I did it once the other day, which is when
my mate I hung up with my mate Pip just
like can we get a veno? And I was like yeah,
I was like, I'm actually like I taught yoga back
to back that day in the heat, and I was like,
I'm super de high do you care if I don't
get a veno because alcohol obviously dehydrates more. Can I
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get a green juice? But like the rumination I still
did in the lead up fucked me for a little while.
So I just really want to care less about what
other people think of me and just run my own race.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
So there's no point spending that much time overthinking and
wasting time. Which do you know I do? Yeah? I
mean I used to do it too.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
I had to, like, well forty formidable and forty boot
not doing.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Anything formidable forty Yeah, I love that. Okay? And what
did I just ask you? What skill? Talent? Okay? What
skill or talent you've developed over the years that you're
proud of?
Speaker 1 (26:24):
I mean, I'm very good at organizing things like off
the chain, good like I have an itinerary already for
our way.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
I know. I love to research. What am I really
good at? Something you've developed over time? A skill? Ah? Oh?
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Can I tell you what it is? And I learned
it as being an Australian here in America. There was
another colleague who told me this, and I didn't know
that I could do this, But now that I've sat
in more serious business meetings, since I think I can
disarm people.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Oh yeah, that's good. That's a good one, do you
know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (27:11):
Yeah, Like, I don't know if it's this driving accent thing,
but I can be serious and crack a joke and
not care if it lands or not and sit in
that space and disarm. And my other skill that the
podcast has trained me in is to make people feel
comfortable very quickly, because the pot when you're doing a
filmed pod, people get really anxious and nervous because there's
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cameras everywhere, and I'll quickly kind of like drop into
their energy and just kind of like make them feel safe.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
I would say I'm good at that too. Love that.
What's something you've always wanted to master but haven't had
the chance to yet? A couple of things.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
I went through a bit of a phase of wanting
to learn Spanish. Don't know why, but I haven't done that.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
I do not know this about you.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
No, well, I think that that dream went before you,
and I remember met.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
I'm sure you're a linguist. I'm not. You might be
a cunning linguist.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
That's very this is a family podcast, that's right. The
other thing, oh, you threw me off with that dirty joke,
just so you know.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Sorry.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
The other thing I've always wanted to swim in sharks
obviously haven't done that yet.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
No, something to master, like an instrument to language, doing
Russian dancing, I would.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
I'd love to be better at lake film editing because
of now the pod being so visual.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
I feel like that's achievable. Though. What has been your
biggest challenge so far and how did you overcome it?
Eating disorder therapy? Okay, nice one, all right, what's your
proudest personal achievement outside of work or career. There's a
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proud personal achievement. I'd say falling in love with you.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
That's not an achievement though, Okay, well, probably what I said,
like building a really nice relationship with my parents through
like learning to Like I think in your thirties you
go through this phase of like thinking that any trauma
or stuff you've gone through when you're younger, you kind
of blame on them. It's some weird fucking thing we
(29:26):
do in our thirties. Do you know that? Do you
find that? And I think doing therapy has allowed me
to like fill all those feels but also then lay
no blame over time.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Obviously.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
When I was in my twenties, I blamed them for sure. Yeah,
I say that, nice relationship with my parents.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
I would say, is that a good answer? I love that.
Are you texting boob? No, not at all, looks like
he is. Okay, so these are nostalgic questions. Now, okay,
what was your favorite thing to do when you were
in your twenties? And then your favoriting to do you're
in your thirties, thirties?
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Oh no, the twenties, I will say, anytime I had
a down day, I would watch three things. Pirates of
the Caribbean one, two, and three, Yeah, Steve Ewen videos, Yeah,
and Jamie Oliver videos, specifically Jamie Oliver at home because
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he cooks from his garden and the kids are so
tiny and so cute.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
Are you texting boo? No, I'm not texting. What are
you doing? What about your thirties? Are you in your forties?
Stop getting don't get frustrated with other people. What was
something I did? It's a to do a thing to
do when you're in your thirties, I would say, go
to the movies. Okay, yeah, you do love that?
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Love it because the energy of movie making is so important.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
What's a song that brings you back to your younger year?
What's like in nostalgic? I'm not.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
I'm not a nostalgic. Like you keep singing the One
Tree Hill song over and over.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
The last few times. That's only because I heard it.
But what is that song? I can't remember? I don't.
Maybe I can't, I can't.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
Every night he keeps singing it, I'm like, that's off
One Tree Hill? Like, oh, be able to know what
songs are from, like the OC soundtrack, all of that
that takes me back?
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Do you know what takes me back? The Eer soundtrack?
Do you remember that song? That theme song? And also
X Files because they're the yeah, because they're the song
the shows.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
My mum would let me stab on Thursday nights and
watch ye yeah X Files is scary scary for my Yeah,
I used bit so scared, but I loved it.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
Mum would let me.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
And because Mum had gestational diabetes, every now and then
she'd have to check my brother and me's blood, so
you go to a few prick test to just check
your blood sugar levels.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
And one night she.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
Was really good at like manipulating you into doing hard
stuff by going you can watch X files after oh
yeah yeah, and so I'd have to give her my blood,
like do my fingerprick tests to check blood glucose levels
and then to be like all right, Scully and Molder,
you can watch X files.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Yeah yeah, Okay, this's a funny one. What was your
go to fashion trend back in the day.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
I worked at a clothing store called Stevie on Grevel Street,
and I had a mohawk and I had shaved side,
like the sides of my head were shaved. I had
leopard print hair extensions and baby blue hair extensions, and
I used to wear glitter, like a glitter little like
thing tied around my head.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
And then I would have I would go to.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Office works and buy stencils and put like stencils down
my face like boy George, because I was trained to
makeup artists well. And people used to call me when
I go out because they also dj' people used to
call me that's Pokehontus on acid.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
Yeah yeah, yeah. I was a wild child. Wow child.
This is a good question. What's the most unforgettable trip
you've taken? Oh, in your forty years? I love travel.
I love it.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
I'm a Sagittarius for rising guys, that's my love adventure. Okay,
although I'm not friends with this person anymore. I did
love going to the Maldives or Maldives that's the coo
last one with whale sharks. But I'm not close with
I took a girlfriend and we're not buttos anymore, which
is like quite sad. That's one thing in your thirties
that no one prepares you for. Friendship breakups. I would say,
(33:46):
but I loved going to the Maldives. I loved going
to New York for the first time. Oh yeah, I
love Hawaii. Yeah, yeah, I love traveling. But yeah, I
would say my first trip, my first work trip Hawaii
because I went to Hawaii as a kid. My first
work trip to Hawaii. I remember I was doing a
photo shoot with you know, Malanie, Gorgeous Melanie, and that
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was really cool because that was a real moment where
I felt like I was coming into myself. And I
learned to stand up paddleboard that trip too, and it
was so cool because I was there doing a shoot,
but then also I was like doing my own trip
for myself, and I love that trip. Yeah, that was
really that was really important. But also the Maldives it
was so cool, Like I got it was a six
week holiday, no joke, and it was I had to
(34:33):
teach each hotel group how to use Instagram, and I
was allowed to bring my bestie at the time. And
so we went to Maldives, then three different locations in Mauritius,
and then Reunion Island, which is this a little French
island and we like hiked, like I said, swam with
whale sharks.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
It was so much fun. I love it. What TV
show or movie to find your childhood or teens.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
Teens would be the OC or Dawson's Creek for sure. Childhood,
Like I'm still scared when I see memes of Witches.
Do you remember the Rods Witches? So I remember watching that.
We had a family friend, my mum, her best friend Fiona.
She had kiddos the same age as my brother Tristan
(35:21):
and I but sheared three kiddos and every Christmas we'd
go there a week before Christmas, go berry picking. They
live in this place called winchle See. But the kid
that was a similar age to me is Felicity. And
we would watch movies like those nineties movies over like
Never Ending Story, Lost, what's that one with the dinosaurs?
Speaker 2 (35:42):
Lost? Something?
Speaker 1 (35:43):
Rather but like Narnia, all those cool fantasy shows. And
we had a thing where you'd watch a movie and
you'd sit on your legs so your needs to be
bent underneath you and it'd be the first person to
get pins and needles in their legs and then you'd
have to walk around and your legs wouldn't work. It
was so fun, but you know you'd be falling all
over the floor.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
That's funny. Yeah. Do you remember your eighteenth birthday? I
think you touched on it before you had a joint.
And we snuck into this club in Melbourne. All right,
so we'll get next time. Do you know what your
first concert? Yes? Dad took me to Alanis Morrish It
that's hilarious. How old were you? I don't know, like thirteen,
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that's cute.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
And then also Dad also took us to John Farnham.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
Oh yeah, Tristan and I John.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
I feel like that was linked to an event though,
like the tennis or Grand Prix or football or something,
and Dad took us to that. Yeah. We're a huge
football family. Football is a huge part of my upbringing
to AFL. What was your favorite toy or game growing up?
I had a FURBI, I had a Tamagotchi. But I
had this and I still have it and I know
(36:52):
it because Dad facetimed me yesterday. I had this toy
from when I was a kid called Monk, and it's
a big big monkey about the site, like bigger than
me as a kid, and Dad wanted at the Melbourne
show and we've still got it. Yeah, Monk, and it
had a little had a little t shirt on it
that I used to suck my thumb and have to
rub the material between my like it was some weird
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sensory like kept me calm thing.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
Does that make sense? Yeah? Yeah, Oh this is this
is an interesting question. Romance. Yeah, because you just gave
me that voice. I know. Do you remember your first love? Yeah?
Of course, who everyone does? And what was that experience?
Speaker 1 (37:34):
Like it was really nice because and I've written about
this in Phelasly Failing, Uh, there was ten years between
my love with him and meeting you, and you're both
music producers and you were a DJ at the time
when I met you, and so it was really interesting
because basically he was an amazing creative together like four
(37:55):
years or something, and you're an amazing creative. But everyone
I dated between knew too wasn't necessarily a creative. Like
there were engineers and like businessmen and all that, and
like there was always something where I found it so
hard to like connect on a deep level.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
You need creative.
Speaker 1 (38:13):
Yeah, And I remember after I met you, I walked
into Terry, my therapist's office or room, and I was like,
oh my god, Terry, I think I'm meant to be
with the creative.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
And he was like, no fucking shit, yeah, and started laughing.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
And it's like, that's what's so cool about my first
love because when we ended, we ended on beautiful terms,
but he was like, this is the love you need to.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
Remember because the bar needs to be.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
Set high and as unfair as it might have been
for everyone else until I met you, Essentially I would
be like my first love's name was Kane, and I
would be like, they're no Caine comparing, like, which I
know sounds, but I think it was the more the
creativity and this the spirit that he captured, and I
think you in capture that spirits as well.
Speaker 2 (39:01):
Yeah, does that make sense how does that make you feel?
Speaker 1 (39:04):
By the way hearing that, Yeah, good, fine, What did
you remember your first love?
Speaker 2 (39:10):
Like, first girlfriend, first love? I don't know, like it, No,
you're definitely really yeah, No, i'd be real. No, I
think I think like first two girlfriends were you know,
some semblance of love probably like yeah, my like the
(39:35):
second girlfriend, which was like the serious one when I
was like twenty or something like that, that was like
she wasn't like someone that like I'll compare anything to.
But I did remember comparing the next and next two
relationships to her. Yeah, But then that was a big
(39:57):
lesson for me because I was like, well, actually I'm
comparing to a made up version of it, and to
just actually not compare people and just meet people for
who they are totally.
Speaker 1 (40:12):
And that's what I think I mean when I say,
like the creative spirit that you my first love have, Yeah,
I think that's what I was missing in all my
other relationships.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
Ye, that creativity.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
Yeah, and I think like a free spirit yeah as well.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
Yeah, yeah, no, I like that. Yeah, I don't know,
maybe it's a bit different for me. I suppose.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
No, I think what you said makes but I think
you and I both big into like mental health work,
and I think that also has a huge impact on how.
Speaker 2 (40:42):
You look at past love totally. Yeah, yeah, yeah, And look,
I mean you can't regret any of it, can you.
You know, what are you most excited about for the
next decade of your life? Say, forty to fifty?
Speaker 1 (40:58):
Oh my goodness, I have so many like dreams and
wishes that I just so badly want to live out
with you. I think this is a really important decade too,
because I think forty to fifty, you've got your touch wood,
you're at your health, you got your vitality, you're at
your sharps, you got your focus. So like you can
move mountains in this decade if you want, don't you think. Ye.
Speaker 2 (41:21):
Also, we don't have kiddos.
Speaker 1 (41:24):
Which means we have time like as in our days,
aren't like changing diapers or nappies and saving money for
schooling and education. Like, we can invest in ourselves right now.
And I think that is like such a gift.
Speaker 2 (41:44):
And I don't want to bandy the word privilege around.
Speaker 1 (41:46):
But like how lucky that we get to be Like, Okay,
let's go gung ho at this dream that we don't
want to leave anything on the table. We want to
like have no regret. So you've taught me to show,
not tell us. I'm not going to list all my
dreams out right now, but I know that I would
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like to think when we look back in ten years
time that we have fucking move mountains and fully lived
fully Like really given this such a red hot shake
and such a crack.
Speaker 2 (42:23):
I love it. Well, what is actually one thing you
hope to accomplished by the time you're fifty? That was
my next question. Well do you want do you want
me to just say just one thing? Just go one
one thing. This is gonna sound really selfish, but I'd
love to win an Emmy. Okay.
Speaker 1 (42:44):
I'd also love a ranch. Oh yeah, I would love
ask to have a ranch somewhere. Whether it's Montana, Wyoming,
Byron Bay, Hinterland, or one in each would be nice.
Speaker 2 (42:56):
But i'd love a ranch with you. Yeah, that's actually
not that hard. We could do that in the next
like two years. Do you reckon a Yeah, we're here
or there in Byron we could easily. Yeah, you know,
I've already got property there so we can look at
you little mogul. Oh yeah, all right, is there anything
(43:20):
you wish to leave behind in your Oh no, that's
anything you wish to leave behind in your thirties as
you enter forties.
Speaker 1 (43:30):
Self doubt, self judgment, and as my therapist keeps telling me,
you need to love yourself so that you put yourself first.
I'll always hold people on pedestals.
Speaker 2 (43:41):
We're really lucky.
Speaker 1 (43:42):
We have some really successful friends, and you're amazing at
seeing them as equals. But I'll be like, oh my god,
and I'll hold them on a pedestal and like see
all the Emmys on the wall or see all the
Golden Globes on the wall, and be like, oh, like
I let it kind of like I think I'm less
than them, Yeah, so I need to.
Speaker 2 (44:01):
Let that go. That's them living their life, yeah, and
achieving goals in their life. It doesn't mean that they're
like better than you or need to be on a
fucking pedestal totally.
Speaker 1 (44:12):
But that's a mistake I think I have definitely made
in the last like a few years for sure, which
I want to leave.
Speaker 2 (44:20):
Well, that leads into the next question, what's one piece
of wisdom you hope to pass to a younger generation.
Speaker 1 (44:26):
Yeah, like, don't comp yourself to others. My acting coach
here is says comparison is cancer for creatives.
Speaker 2 (44:34):
That's true.
Speaker 1 (44:34):
Yeah, so don't comp yourself and don't think you're less
than anyone else.
Speaker 2 (44:39):
Yeah. If you could take a year off to travel
or pursue a passion, what would you do.
Speaker 1 (44:46):
Oh well, I really want you to take me to Italy. Yeah,
I think that'd be sick, like live in Italy for
a little while. I think that'd be really nice if
we had like bound endless cash. Yeah, I would love
to like yeah, get married in like Wyoming on Montana and.
Speaker 2 (45:08):
Just bring everyone over for everyone to come.
Speaker 1 (45:11):
Yeah. But I or like even Byron but yeah, ah,
there's a lot of places I want to travel to,
Like I really want to go to the Cotswolds.
Speaker 2 (45:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (45:21):
I think you and I should plan to do that
in the next few years. I think that'd be so fun.
Speaker 2 (45:25):
Well, I think if we do Europe, we would do
it in that that period, like Devn the Cotswolds like
all that.
Speaker 1 (45:31):
I've done big chunks in the UK before, but I
never got out to that real like romantic like farm.
Speaker 2 (45:38):
Like that little like I just fund holiday. Yeah. Yeah,
that's like one.
Speaker 1 (45:43):
Yeah, that's like one moment, but like that, just like
the being in the English countryside.
Speaker 2 (45:48):
We've never really done that.
Speaker 1 (45:49):
Yeah uh, and like some of the TV shows we see,
Like we watched this show recently it was all shot
in Yosemite.
Speaker 2 (45:55):
Like next year, I want to go to Usemite.
Speaker 1 (45:58):
Like just I really, I really want to, Like I
don't want to waste all so this gift that we've
got to live in America and just spend the whole
time in lay.
Speaker 2 (46:06):
Like I want to move around.
Speaker 1 (46:07):
I want to get a job shooting somewhere cool, or
like you get a job working out in New York
and we got to New York for a couple months.
Speaker 2 (46:14):
I want to do all that. Yeah, love love it.
What new habit or hobby would you like to develop
in the next few years?
Speaker 1 (46:28):
So I'm a yogi. You probably know this about me. Sorry,
I meant the listener. I meant the listener.
Speaker 2 (46:35):
I think the listener knows this well. Jesus Christ. But
I used to be really like some new information.
Speaker 1 (46:41):
I usually really good at back bends. Yeah, and I
used to be able.
Speaker 2 (46:45):
To send also be good at talking into the microphone
and not waving it around.
Speaker 1 (46:51):
It's my birthday. You don't get to be mean to me, boo,
not that that's mean. I used to be able to
do a drop back, which is where you go from
standing and you just like drop back into a backbend
a new land in a wheel. And I used to
be able to do it walking down the wall, Like
so you walk, use the wall to walk back into
a drop back. Be cool to retrain myself to do that,
because we say in yoga, healthy spine, healthy life. So
(47:14):
I want to reprioritize my yoga. But that's like I
can do that tomorrow. That's not something that feels too
hard to achieve. You can kind of kick that in
like two weeks of doing yoga every day.
Speaker 2 (47:24):
Flat out okaol. I don't know if this is like
a bit of like a morbid question, but I do
feel like we're probably at the halfway mark of our lives,
you know, like not as if we're going to like
die in forty years, but have you thought about like
your retirement years.
Speaker 1 (47:48):
I am definitely someone that want to work, wants to
work till the day they die.
Speaker 2 (47:52):
I think that's you of being an actor.
Speaker 1 (47:54):
I definitely am an overthinker and warrior. And like I
was actually talking to last night, and I was like,
I really want to make some health choices in the
next like from turning forty, where I just pull certain
things back because I said Dad, like, I don't want
to be inflamed. I want to feel vital, and I
live that way most of the time. But if I'm
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having a stressful day or totally eat something sugary or
I'll you know, have an extra glass of vino or
something like that, and I'm just like, no, Like, I
feel like forty is the decade that you have to
really give a shit about your health. And I know,
like you and I do weights a couple of days
a week, and I don't know if you've noticed, but
I start hanging at the end of every session, and
(48:38):
there's this anti aging thing that like how good your
grip strength is. I've heard that, Yeah, and I can
only hang for thirty seconds. I used to be able
to do like two minutes. So I really want to
build that, like those like habits that help with longevity. Now,
I think this is the decade You've got to like
move the needle a little bit.
Speaker 2 (48:57):
Yeah, I love that. Okay, what would you like your
legacy to be?
Speaker 1 (49:06):
I would love to win an Emmy or multiple and
then go and teach other young actors how to maguiver
the entertainment industry because it's so brutal and hard. So
I'd love to write a book about it. I'd love
to go into acting schools and teach young kids. Like
when I say young kids, like people in their twenties
(49:27):
that have just finished acting school. Like, I don't think
people teach the business side of the entertainment industry at all.
So to be so cool or like to set up
a foundation or something that helps younger actors like not
be like so many actors are talented, but they just
don't know how to do the business side of it.
And I would say, from what I've learned in LA,
(49:49):
eighty percent is the business side, say the business twenty
percent is like have you got the goods? And even
if you've got don't have the goods? If you're nice,
you can get rebooked. Yeah, So like I just think
I like that. I want to go out and do
that crazy, hard thing and then share how I did it.
Whether that's education, whether that's books, I don't know. But
I want to help other people fulfill their dreams, which
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is why this whole podcast exists.
Speaker 2 (50:14):
Love it. If you could have a superpower in your forties,
what would it be. I'd love to be able to
heal people. Be pretty cool. Oh yeah, like ping pin
sawney ping ping, You're good. Yeah, I'd love to how to.
Speaker 1 (50:30):
Heal people like dad's got saw, like joints and stuff.
I'd love to how to.
Speaker 2 (50:33):
Heal all that. Yeah, yeah, all right. If you were
to write a memoir, what would the title be? Isn't
philis failing that? Well? I don't think half memoir a
little bit, but like what would it like? What would
a memoir be of your life? I mean I probably
(50:54):
can't do this, but do the shit you love? Oh yeah,
I mean yeah yeah, just do the stuff you love
and forget about the rest. Like, just do the stuff
you love. I always thought that if I was a
right one, I would call it it's all in your head.
That's really cool. It's fucking all in your head. Yeah,
the only plays it exists in your fucking head. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (51:15):
I like, like, I like to do something around bravery too,
like feeling that fear and doing it anyway, like the
gift of bravery, or like cultivating bravery and courage around that.
Speaker 2 (51:26):
Yeah, yeah, I love that. This is the call. It's
a little bit of fun. One. Who would you invite
to your dream dinner party? Living, living or living or dead?
Oh that's so easy, Steve Ewen? Okay, just you and Steve. Well,
how many am I allowed a dinner party? You can
have as many as you.
Speaker 1 (51:44):
Want, okay, Steve Ewen, Leonardo DiCaprio, Brad Hits.
Speaker 2 (51:48):
Jesus Christ sounds like your no boss.
Speaker 1 (51:53):
Don't make some dirty sex joke because that what you're
about to do. Johnny Depp would probably make it in there.
Who's that actor that I love of Sakario Benito.
Speaker 2 (52:08):
Benicio del Toro. Yeah, I reckon he be a bit
of fun. Yeah. What about Marcus Mumford.
Speaker 1 (52:15):
And Kerry Mulligan. I feel like I would love them
both there? Actually, yes, absolutely he can. He can play
a tune if he feels so inclined.
Speaker 2 (52:24):
What about no other musicians?
Speaker 1 (52:26):
Yeah, hang on, hang on, Johnny Cash, Elvis, of course
they're my two.
Speaker 2 (52:32):
I was going to say Johnny Cash. You know how
much I love Johnny.
Speaker 1 (52:34):
Cash makes me emotional thinking about him.
Speaker 2 (52:39):
I think that's a pretty good hang on, hang on,
hang on, hang on, hang on.
Speaker 1 (52:49):
I feel like there'd be some sick like be cool
to throw a cool composer in there, because you and
I are obsessed with scores.
Speaker 2 (52:58):
With John Williams. Yeah, John Williams be cool. But even
what's her name? Hilda Good and a daughter? Yeah, that'd
be cool. I'm going to throw in I wouldn't mind meeting.
Speaker 1 (53:19):
And this is just because we've been watching so much
of his work, But Seth Rogan, I feel like he's
a bit of a mogul. He's really cool and he
stands up for what he believes in.
Speaker 2 (53:31):
Yeah, and I like his relationship with his wife. I
like them. They've been teammates forever. Yeah, yeah, I love that.
And her name's Laurence. Oh is it? That's cute? That's
my name. Second last question, what's your guilty pleasure when
you need a break from everything? I feel like I
know the answer to this. Go to the movies? Yeah,
is that what you're going to say? While that and
like watching clips of like like concepts of like oh,
(53:54):
Marcus Mumfort Malmford and Sons and stuff like that. Yeah,
it was so do I need like courage?
Speaker 1 (54:00):
Watched Marcus Monthford because he feels like he just lives
one hundred percent of truth, and so I love watching
him because it just feels so real, especially yeah, if
I've got to like when I had to put in
my notice at work, I watched I remember I watched
his Stagecoach performance. And also we went to the show
(54:24):
this year and I cried how many times it was amazing?
Speaker 2 (54:27):
So good. Okay, this is your last question. Oh wow, okay, okay,
question forty for forty at forty yes I love you
forty questions yes I'll marry you. Yeah, okay, well that's
not on it that we question forty one, which you
don't have time for today. If you could have dinner
with your twenty year old self, what advice would you
(54:47):
give them?
Speaker 1 (54:49):
Do whatever you love. Trust your intuition. It doesn't let
you down. And don't take on other people's opinion of
you or other people's like people put their own value
system on you, don't take it on. Let it like
be like literally water off a duck's back, and your
(55:11):
intuition is rarely wrong.
Speaker 2 (55:12):
Like trust that.
Speaker 1 (55:14):
Trust the intuition, like if something feels off or if
you feel like depleted after you hang out with someone,
like trust that. Then notice how you feel when you
hang out with people that are like very hope filled
and I think, like, use your gut and your intuition
as a guide.
Speaker 2 (55:29):
It won't let you down.
Speaker 1 (55:31):
Do not take on other people's crap when it links
to your You can be a great friend to someone
without taking on their version of what you need to
do and their value system.
Speaker 2 (55:46):
That's really important. I love that. Yeah, that's a really
nice way to wrap up, boss. Thanks. Well, do you
want to answer that question? What is it? What did
I ask if you sat down with a twenty year
old version of you? I think that I was completely
ruled by fear. Yeah, so I would say, like, what
(56:13):
would be the right wording to say to my twenty
year old self, like not get over it, but more
like you know, this is all in your head, like
fear is the fear is yeah not real or yeah
really yeah, it's like you're like you're not in danger,
(56:35):
you're not going to die, You're not like being chased
by And I mean that's the problem with having anxiety
as well. You know, all those feelings seems so real
and your body has that reaction, but it's just like
do you know what it's It's actually all going to
be fine.
Speaker 1 (56:50):
Isn't there some stat like ninety percent of what we
worry about doesn't even happen.
Speaker 2 (56:54):
Yeah, exactly, But like legit, if I could just be like,
it's all gonna be fine, Matt, like you are going
to be fine, and you are like everything that you're
about to do nothing is like so bad that it's
like you're gonna die. Yeah, you know it's so, I
would just be like, it's a bravery piece.
Speaker 1 (57:14):
Just yeah, I think yours is a bravery piece and
mine is probably a self confidence piece, I would say.
Speaker 2 (57:20):
But I think the underlying matching thing is like get
out of your own head, yeah, and live in the world. Yeah,
get out of the way, you know. So Yeah, Okay, Hey,
happy fortieth but happy forty earth.
Speaker 1 (57:32):
I love you, love you, thank you for the listeners,
Thanks for imagine if the pod goes for another forty years.
Speaker 2 (57:41):
He's hoping. Yeah, there's no intention of it.
Speaker 1 (57:44):
I didn't meet with my pop manager last week, and
she's like, I know, three episodes a week all through Christmas,
no breaks, You're the only podcast, no breaks?
Speaker 2 (57:52):
All right, love love you, Happy birthday, Bye Happy.
Speaker 1 (58:02):
That's a wrap on another episode of Fearlessly failing as always.
Thank you to our guests and let's continue the conversation
on Instagram. I'm at Yamo Lollerberry.
Speaker 2 (58:16):
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Speaker 1 (58:22):
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