March 13, 2025 • 9 mins
With unique access to those on the frontlines of agriculture and science, two filmmakers set out on an incredible journey around the world to find the answer to what would seem like a relatively easy question. That being, Are we better off in a World Without Cows?
Joining our Ann Hess from the NCBA tradeshow floor in San Antonio are World Without Cows filmmakers, Michelle Michael and Brandon Whitworth.
This episode of Feedstuffs in Focus is brought to you by Alltech. Acting as your trusted partner, Alltech delivers integrated expertise and tailored solutions and services to provide a comprehensive one-stop resource for solving your challenges. Alltech’s expertise is your competitive edge. Visit Alltech.com to learn more.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Music With unique access to those on the front
lines of agriculture and science.
Two filmmakers set out on anincredible journey around the
world to find the answer to whatwould seem like a relatively
easy question, that being are webetter off in a world without
(00:22):
cows?
Welcome to Feedstuffs in Focus,our podcast taking a look at
the big issues affecting thelivestock, poultry, grain and
animal feed industries.
I'm your host, sarah Muirhead.
This episode of Feedstuffs inFocus is brought to you by
Alltech.
Acting as your trusted partner,alltech delivers integrated
expertise and tailored solutionsand services to provide a
(00:45):
comprehensive one-stop resourcefor solving your challenges.
Alltech's expertise is yourcompetitive edge.
Visit alltechcom to learn more.
Joining our Anne Hess from theNCBA trade show floor in San
Antonio are World Without Cowsfilmmakers Michelle Michael and
Brandon Whitworth.
In our career in the last 15years.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
So I think that these are the last 15 years.
So I think the point is we'renot sustainable for a nation.
We're not sustainable for anation.
I'm not a native or a native ofHarvard Street.
I'm a native of a sustainablenation and we've gone to 22
different countries.
We've had different commitments, and I think that's where it's
(01:39):
really interesting.
But I think that we're going toget these stories put to the
town, and so now what we feltwas a bad change from the
beginning of the year, whetherit was all the news or the
social media, but it seemed tobe a lot of creativity.
You know, we're going to be ina little bit of a better
environment.
We're going to be able to workin our own community.
We're going to help the othersin our own background, and so
(02:00):
that's what we started thisjourney to was doing the
training.
It said that you're going tohave health, health services
work on this on our part, andshe was saying that you're
always again, by training.
You don't do general healthcare, and so what I was saying
was that I don't think it's thesame as what you can say.
You can go the right way, but Idon't think it's the same.
I think that's what makes thestory, I think, glory in the
(02:22):
universe, and political tyrannyis ultimately the better thing,
because the context matters,right.
Telling different things todifferent people and cultures
around the world is reallyimportant, because the show had
perspectives that weren't in theworld of the internet but now
is on a different place,shouldn't be here.
So, as a political tyranny, weneed to learn about this artist
(02:42):
and help them get the science totell us what's right.
So my final advice I can talkabout it, but I don't know if I
can do it.
This is a little bit of a loopbetween you know, I've talked to
so many experts in the subjectand there's a lot of information
to share, and so have experts,scientists, researchers,
dermatologists again, I mean,I'm just here to delight the
(03:06):
attorney and buy in with theseexpert perspectives.
It doesn't, as it may,superhear a picture maybe a
knowledge picture of the publicpolicy in our works with these
different perspectives.
It doesn't have a major, majorpicture, a college picture, a
public policy picture or much.
So let's talk specifics.
I think this is about two.
Let's say something that's beendone in the community.
I think that was reallyinteresting.
(03:27):
What people say about you knowhow bad your company might have
felt, especially when you saidyou were never going to return.
You know how's that going to be.
That is a question that'sactually never been answered.
You know how's that going to be.
I think that that's a good help.
It's a place to be and thehealth community has to see.
If you're a health participant,they can actually help us in
this kind of situation.
(03:47):
Well, I know that you've got todo this and I just want to say,
especially for people withwhite spots, I don't know about
you, but I've talked about theUS, and the US is a huge site.
It's not a topic you know about, but it's a big site and I mean
so you can't do it.
The US cannot prevent this fromhappening.
It's a big site, what's it upto?
And it has to be used.
Well, we've done the research.
We've been trying to gain thedata, to agree and agree to the
(04:10):
study.
We've done the trial detection.
I think the companies that havebeen on this program, the
thousands of people that areexploring the cultures and
economies around the world, andall of the cities that are
growing up in Beijing they alltold me that they're going to
try to get the population to beas good as they can and I said,
yes, that's exactly right.
So we're going to try to getthe population to be as good as
we can and we've gotten a lot ofhelp from the health insurance
and the health care workers.
That have been the number ofchildless people, the number of
(04:33):
disabled people, the number ofchildless people, the number of
the healthcare workers, thenumber of the people who have a
collective relationship and thenumber of people who have
childless children.
The second thing is that we'reseeing a lot of population grow
and we're seeing a lot of peoplewho are job-based and people
who are high-paid and people whoare not so terrible.
But the fact that we've beenspending a few years and the
increases bit about how, in thenext five to ten years, the
(04:53):
immigration system will proposethat there will be less than
2,000 years of immigration, andthat's a powerful conversation
and I thought, I really think,you know, I really think that is
one of the contagiousconversations that's around the
music the public, media, thepublic, the organizations that
are at the end of the road,people, the United Nations, the
RIPP, the RIPP, the RIPP and theRIPP have reservations.
(05:15):
House and Council is eligiblefor 70% of all pre-housing
reservations.
House or HEPPers are eligiblefor speed, rapid or fast, but
we're not exactly involved.
But the issue really is whatdoes our community have to do to
get it to be able to do that?
Well, I'm going to have thatchange.
Well, my idea, like Scott says,is that if you're achieving,
(05:36):
you know a global goal rightthat you have to have, that you
know that you have to see, doyou guys?
What do you want that to be?
So, do you believe in what youwant to do with the book?
Because it was really aquestion of the right to do it
and I would have said that itwas a good with this morning.
I think it's like the end ofthe timer.
This is going to be a greatdeal of just this year.
I think that the day here is afact and we'll be aware of this
(06:00):
journey, but it's a great placeto this conversation around how
we can help and help us or ourguys.
We need to have a blankingpoint each week.
It can't be just some sort ofbullet point.
That's argument, because it'sso much greater than some binary
debate.
There's a lot of people who aredoing a conversation, and I
would say both of our panels.
We think this is so much biggerand more active and we're not a
(06:21):
public conversation center.
I have a question for Michelletoo what's the reaction from the
cultural community?
That is the product of eachother.
So we just make sure that thatculture is a representative of
each other in our nationalagricultural culture, so we
don't just have to remind ouryouth of what people do in our
(06:42):
agriculture.
And that's exactly what we do,that's exactly what we want
people to do.
We start to allow conversationand we create a dialogue between
the existing and the workingand the talking of the state and
how the international healthsystem will develop better.
And he's been in the hotel roombut didn't exist before.
And I was talking to him at thesame time and I showed him a
photo of us holding out a letterand he was just getting into a
party and I had no idea what hewas writing about.
And you know I'm not lying toyou, but I'm just lying to you.
(07:04):
And she said I should be there.
I'm always going to be there,but the way you told this story
it's like a balanced way.
This is to me.
You know this kind of thing isa broken book and I really hope
you get this out there, becauseit is one of the key
conversations like this that areso valuable to me right now.
Well, that's really interesting.
I mean it's a tempting thing,but I hope that I heard from a
(07:27):
few people and I have an idea.
I'm saying that this only makesthe general world a better place
for people.
I just see it as a new engineand it has a role to make this
other dimension of life muchmore.
What you're doing and you knowthat the things that you're
doing are doing a positiveresult.
So I'm not going to get out tothe other side of the bar.
(07:50):
I'm going to be there, I thinkwe're going to make it and I'm
going to thank you.
I not going to be able to do itand then or I think I don't
know if I can mention it, butyour time works very well If
you're in the same industry andyou're thinking about the
information, but there's astretch of time in the group of
partners that you can help usand start to get into the best
way to start a business.
So the other thing is to get.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
You guys are't want to use it, but people want to
find a program right because thedata is easy, right.
So what we need to talk aboutis the supply and the production
.
So I'm showing you the initialtest goals.
Around the world.
There are so many bags.
There is right, the bestlanguage for you and ultimately
(08:56):
the goal is to you by Alltechcom.
Acting as your trusted partner.
Alltech delivers integratedexpertise and tailored solutions
and services to provide acomprehensive one-stop resource
for solving your challenges.
Alltech's expertise is yourcompetitive edge.
Visit Alltechcom to learn more.
I'm Sarah Muirhead and you'vebeen listening to Feedstuffs In
(09:19):
Focus.
If you would like to hear moreconversations about some of the
big issues affecting thelivestock, poultry grain and
animal feed industries,subscribe to this podcast on
your favorite podcast channel.
Until next time, have a greatday and thank you for listening.
Music With unique access to those on the front
lines of agriculture and science.
Two filmmakers set out on anincredible journey around the
world to find the answer to whatwould seem like a relatively
easy question, that being are webetter off in a world without
(00:22):
cows?
Welcome to Feedstuffs in Focus,our podcast taking a look at
the big issues affecting thelivestock, poultry, grain and
animal feed industries.
I'm your host, sarah Muirhead.
This episode of Feedstuffs inFocus is brought to you by
Alltech.
Acting as your trusted partner,alltech delivers integrated
expertise and tailored solutionsand services to provide a
(00:45):
comprehensive one-stop resourcefor solving your challenges.
Alltech's expertise is yourcompetitive edge.
Visit alltechcom to learn more.
Joining our Anne Hess from theNCBA trade show floor in San
Antonio are World Without Cowsfilmmakers Michelle Michael and
Brandon Whitworth.
In our career in the last 15years.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
So I think that these are the last 15 years.
So I think the point is we'renot sustainable for a nation.
We're not sustainable for anation.
I'm not a native or a native ofHarvard Street.
I'm a native of a sustainablenation and we've gone to 22
different countries.
We've had different commitments, and I think that's where it's
(01:39):
really interesting.
But I think that we're going toget these stories put to the
town, and so now what we feltwas a bad change from the
beginning of the year, whetherit was all the news or the
social media, but it seemed tobe a lot of creativity.
You know, we're going to be ina little bit of a better
environment.
We're going to be able to workin our own community.
We're going to help the othersin our own background, and so
(02:00):
that's what we started thisjourney to was doing the
training.
It said that you're going tohave health, health services
work on this on our part, andshe was saying that you're
always again, by training.
You don't do general healthcare, and so what I was saying
was that I don't think it's thesame as what you can say.
You can go the right way, but Idon't think it's the same.
I think that's what makes thestory, I think, glory in the
(02:22):
universe, and political tyrannyis ultimately the better thing,
because the context matters,right.
Telling different things todifferent people and cultures
around the world is reallyimportant, because the show had
perspectives that weren't in theworld of the internet but now
is on a different place,shouldn't be here.
So, as a political tyranny, weneed to learn about this artist
(02:42):
and help them get the science totell us what's right.
So my final advice I can talkabout it, but I don't know if I
can do it.
This is a little bit of a loopbetween you know, I've talked to
so many experts in the subjectand there's a lot of information
to share, and so have experts,scientists, researchers,
dermatologists again, I mean,I'm just here to delight the
(03:06):
attorney and buy in with theseexpert perspectives.
It doesn't, as it may,superhear a picture maybe a
knowledge picture of the publicpolicy in our works with these
different perspectives.
It doesn't have a major, majorpicture, a college picture, a
public policy picture or much.
So let's talk specifics.
I think this is about two.
Let's say something that's beendone in the community.
I think that was reallyinteresting.
(03:27):
What people say about you knowhow bad your company might have
felt, especially when you saidyou were never going to return.
You know how's that going to be.
That is a question that'sactually never been answered.
You know how's that going to be.
I think that that's a good help.
It's a place to be and thehealth community has to see.
If you're a health participant,they can actually help us in
this kind of situation.
(03:47):
Well, I know that you've got todo this and I just want to say,
especially for people withwhite spots, I don't know about
you, but I've talked about theUS, and the US is a huge site.
It's not a topic you know about, but it's a big site and I mean
so you can't do it.
The US cannot prevent this fromhappening.
It's a big site, what's it upto?
And it has to be used.
Well, we've done the research.
We've been trying to gain thedata, to agree and agree to the
(04:10):
study.
We've done the trial detection.
I think the companies that havebeen on this program, the
thousands of people that areexploring the cultures and
economies around the world, andall of the cities that are
growing up in Beijing they alltold me that they're going to
try to get the population to beas good as they can and I said,
yes, that's exactly right.
So we're going to try to getthe population to be as good as
we can and we've gotten a lot ofhelp from the health insurance
and the health care workers.
That have been the number ofchildless people, the number of
(04:33):
disabled people, the number ofchildless people, the number of
the healthcare workers, thenumber of the people who have a
collective relationship and thenumber of people who have
childless children.
The second thing is that we'reseeing a lot of population grow
and we're seeing a lot of peoplewho are job-based and people
who are high-paid and people whoare not so terrible.
But the fact that we've beenspending a few years and the
increases bit about how, in thenext five to ten years, the
(04:53):
immigration system will proposethat there will be less than
2,000 years of immigration, andthat's a powerful conversation
and I thought, I really think,you know, I really think that is
one of the contagiousconversations that's around the
music the public, media, thepublic, the organizations that
are at the end of the road,people, the United Nations, the
RIPP, the RIPP, the RIPP and theRIPP have reservations.
(05:15):
House and Council is eligiblefor 70% of all pre-housing
reservations.
House or HEPPers are eligiblefor speed, rapid or fast, but
we're not exactly involved.
But the issue really is whatdoes our community have to do to
get it to be able to do that?
Well, I'm going to have thatchange.
Well, my idea, like Scott says,is that if you're achieving,
(05:36):
you know a global goal rightthat you have to have, that you
know that you have to see, doyou guys?
What do you want that to be?
So, do you believe in what youwant to do with the book?
Because it was really aquestion of the right to do it
and I would have said that itwas a good with this morning.
I think it's like the end ofthe timer.
This is going to be a greatdeal of just this year.
I think that the day here is afact and we'll be aware of this
(06:00):
journey, but it's a great placeto this conversation around how
we can help and help us or ourguys.
We need to have a blankingpoint each week.
It can't be just some sort ofbullet point.
That's argument, because it'sso much greater than some binary
debate.
There's a lot of people who aredoing a conversation, and I
would say both of our panels.
We think this is so much biggerand more active and we're not a
(06:21):
public conversation center.
I have a question for Michelletoo what's the reaction from the
cultural community?
That is the product of eachother.
So we just make sure that thatculture is a representative of
each other in our nationalagricultural culture, so we
don't just have to remind ouryouth of what people do in our
(06:42):
agriculture.
And that's exactly what we do,that's exactly what we want
people to do.
We start to allow conversationand we create a dialogue between
the existing and the workingand the talking of the state and
how the international healthsystem will develop better.
And he's been in the hotel roombut didn't exist before.
And I was talking to him at thesame time and I showed him a
photo of us holding out a letterand he was just getting into a
party and I had no idea what hewas writing about.
And you know I'm not lying toyou, but I'm just lying to you.
(07:04):
And she said I should be there.
I'm always going to be there,but the way you told this story
it's like a balanced way.
This is to me.
You know this kind of thing isa broken book and I really hope
you get this out there, becauseit is one of the key
conversations like this that areso valuable to me right now.
Well, that's really interesting.
I mean it's a tempting thing,but I hope that I heard from a
(07:27):
few people and I have an idea.
I'm saying that this only makesthe general world a better place
for people.
I just see it as a new engineand it has a role to make this
other dimension of life muchmore.
What you're doing and you knowthat the things that you're
doing are doing a positiveresult.
So I'm not going to get out tothe other side of the bar.
(07:50):
I'm going to be there, I thinkwe're going to make it and I'm
going to thank you.
I not going to be able to do itand then or I think I don't
know if I can mention it, butyour time works very well If
you're in the same industry andyou're thinking about the
information, but there's astretch of time in the group of
partners that you can help usand start to get into the best
way to start a business.
So the other thing is to get.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
You guys are't want to use it, but people want to
find a program right because thedata is easy, right.
So what we need to talk aboutis the supply and the production
.
So I'm showing you the initialtest goals.
Around the world.
There are so many bags.
There is right, the bestlanguage for you and ultimately
(08:56):
the goal is to you by Alltechcom.
Acting as your trusted partner.
Alltech delivers integratedexpertise and tailored solutions
and services to provide acomprehensive one-stop resource
for solving your challenges.
Alltech's expertise is yourcompetitive edge.
Visit Alltechcom to learn more.
I'm Sarah Muirhead and you'vebeen listening to Feedstuffs In
(09:19):
Focus.
If you would like to hear moreconversations about some of the
big issues affecting thelivestock, poultry grain and
animal feed industries,subscribe to this podcast on
your favorite podcast channel.
Until next time, have a greatday and thank you for listening.
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