Episode #137: Feeney Talks with Jenny Alzate

#BeAGoodFriend and check out episode #137 of #FeeneyTalksWithFriends featuring Jenny Alzate. 

It was great to talk with my #friend, Jenny. 

Jenny is an Integrative Psychotherapist and Co-founder of The Enlightenment Counseling Center. 

We talked about:

E.F.T. - Emotional Freedom Tapping (minute 1)

Being a Psychotherapist (minute 5)

May is Mental Health Awareness Month  (minute 6)

Does exercise help mental health? (minute 9)

Gut health (minute 12)

Podcast sponsors  (minute 16)

3 Keys (sponsored by West Hartford Lock) to being Psychotherapist  (minute 17)

Jenny’s son, Kingsley was my former student  (minute 19)

Johnny’s Jog (minute 21)

Parker’s Posse (minute 22)

Kingsley’s dad, Mike collects hats and sneakers (minute 24)

Mind-body medicine (minute 26)

Surprise guest and my former student, Sanai (minute 27)

Advice for someone with anxiety or depression (minute 32)

What makes Nicole a good #friend? (minute 37)

Suggestions for someone struggling with aging (minute 40)

Being bilingual is a superpower (minute 43)

Questions from Jenny’s niece (minute 46)

Jenny saved the life of Feeney’s dog, Barkley (minute 49)

The Enlightenment Counseling Center on Instagram (minute 51)

“Where’s my breath?” “How am I feeling?” “What do I need?” (minute 54)

Closing remarks (minute 58)

Unboxing a gift from Cricket Press (minute 1.00)

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Episode Transcript

(00:00):
I'm tapping. I'm going to start tapping.
Even though I'm anxious.
I still love and accept myself.
All right.
Even though I'm nervous.
I still love and accept myself.Even though I'm worried.
I still love and accept myself.
This is tapping.
What's what technique is this?
So this is called EFT,motion of freedom technique
tapping and right nowwe're just starting with part one.

(00:21):
It's a nine point protocol.
So you always start with the karate chopright here.
Chop kind of letting the nerves knowthat we're coming
in, that there's going to besome stimulation, some connection.
You kind of start to feel the breatha little bit a little deeper.
Now it's working.
Yeah. You feel it right away.
Right now we move to point one.
If you want to just follow me.So we go over here.

(00:42):
Normally you would add a phrase to it.
So even though I'm so anxious,
I don't know what I'm going to doabout all of this.
You're really stating what you're feeling.All this inside.
It's so hard. It's so heavy.
I can never get rid of it.
Oh, my God, I've been dealing with this.
Follow me so long, I don't knowif it's ever going to get better.
I'm getting really, really tired of it.
Oh my God, I just don't know.

(01:03):
Every time I thinkI'm getting better. Not.
And I'm overwhelmedand it just doesn't go away.
And I don't like this feeling.
I don't like this feeling I'm goingto feel all the time when I have anxiety.
It doesn't feel good
and I want to feel good.
And this doesn't like me, doesn'tlet me feel good.
And so I'm going to try to change this upa little bit just by what I'm doing.
And then I move up to the head.
So this is a nine point.

(01:25):
And normally what we would do iswe would keep going, kind of identifying
the negative feelingsyou're having. Right.
Until eventually there's a clickand you release it.
Right.
So each of these points
is connected to an organ in the bodythat houses different emotions.
So when you read the client you're kind ofnoticing where they're staying stuck on.
So if we're doing the collarbonethat might be like liver bladder
or that might give me some informationaround, okay,

(01:47):
some griefthat's now moved through. Right.
So it's kind of like the connectionbetween all of it
and know we keep going around.
But now with the positive kindof affirmations, I like what I'm doing.
This feels really good to me. Same points.
It feels really good to feel goodand that I know how to get myself here.
I like feeling good with what I'm doingand this right now makes me happy
that I'm committed to myself.
Because taking care of myselfis the most important thing,

(02:09):
and I like knowing that this helps me feelgood,
and feeling goodis what it's all about. Wow.
And that would be the end of a stretch.
And what was that cycle called?
That is just round one is a it's EFT,you know, tapping protocol.
And there is a subjective kindof depending on what we're dealing with.
The, the, you know, the weightof the issue, who we're talking with.
And that we can spend, you know, good30, 40 minutes just on the negative script

(02:33):
and we can just maybe stay with one wordfor like rounds and rounds.
And the idea is that it does open upthe emotions.
You will cry, you might scream,you might take some deep breaths.
You know, you might do whatever,depending on what we're touching.
But it really brings immediate relief.
This evidence base at this point,a lot of research that shows us
that this really does workfor and diety for stress and depression.

(02:55):
Now, how hard should I tap?
Was I tapping too hard or just, you know,now you don't want to bang, right?
The nice gentle. Tap.
Yeah.
I mean, I kind of push this in timeto the point that the systems know.
So even imaginingsometimes you're doing it,
I do feel like itcan it can make a difference.
But in terms of actually doing it,you don't need to go hard.
It can be the tapor it can be acupressure,

(03:15):
which is another kind of way of moving.
And this is also connectedto like acupuncture.
So acupuncture we're workingwith different you know with. Yeah.
So the acupuncture linelike like will connect to something.
Exactly like if.
You can if you hit if your foot hurtsyou put an acupuncture here or something,
something crazy.
Exactly the opposite.
Yes. Yes.
You mentioned collarbone, maybe liver.

(03:36):
Where would the eye the cheekbones be?
Where would that lead to?
This is connected to the stomach meridian.
Okay, so that's another aspect is we havelike 3000 acupuncture points in the body.
And then we have these energetic meridianscalled the meridians.
So kind of like I compare them to veins.
And so when we're working with healinglike energy healing, if you're having

(03:58):
stomach issues, for example, we would workwith this meridian that begins here.
It actually like follows
all the way through every single meridianhas this really unique,
you know, kind of aspect to itinto the thighs, out
through the knee, outto, you know, your big toes.
Right. So you would learn that protocol.We do the energy work.
We clear through that.
And that would then help you with stomachas little as simple as well.

(04:20):
Yeah.
What a wonderful way to start our podcast.
That was great.
I'm here with my good friendJenny. Lady. Hey, how are you doing?
I'm doing well.Thank you. Happy to be. Here.
Very excited to be talking with you.
You are a psychotherapist? Yes.
If you couldn't tell.
What do you think?
Well, I don't know.
We start with I, I own it.
Yeah, I love it, I love it.
Well, my name is Eric Feeney, founderand president of Friends of Fini.

(04:44):
Friends of Feeney's, a nonprofit.
We help children and families that needassistance after heartbreak or tragedy.
And I use this podcast.
Fini talks with friends,and I talk to wonderful people
that are doing great things.
And Jenny,you do wonderful things, helping families
and peoplethat are going through some trauma
or have some things they need to talkabout how long you've been doing that.

(05:05):
So I've been a psychotherapistfor about 20 years,
and I've been in private practicefor 15 years.
Early on in my career, I was working atWheeler Clinic that a nonprofit.
It was very, you know,learned a lot of great experiences.
I knew early on that I needed my own spaceto fly and do it my way.
And so, like, my early 20s,I left and I started my chiropractic this.

(05:27):
And I've done that for 15 years now.
And then we evolved into the EnlightenmentCounseling Center,
which we can talk about in a little bit.
And that became more.
But administration helpingother therapists with their own case loads
and building up and helping them,you know, feel empowered
and clinically savvyto to do the work as well.
Yeah. I'm so excited to talk to you.
What what month are we in today?

(05:49):
This is mental mazemental health awareness. Yes.
We're here to talk about our mental healthtoday.
Mental health is very important.
It's everything.
Right now. What grade do I teach?
Third, third grade.
So pretendyou're talking to a third grader.
How would you explain mentalhealth to a third grader?
Mental health, I mean,
I there's just such a connection betweenemotional health and mental health, right?

(06:11):
So it would just be more oflike teaching them
that they have this ability to take careof themselves and how they feel
and how they, you know, support themselvesin their self-talk and their
and their thoughts.
And that it's, you know, somethingthat they can really learn how to be.
Well, and when they're not feeling well,how they can still express
that and get the support that they needso that they can feel a little better.

(06:33):
Excellent job. Excellent pass.That's an A+.
Third graders.
They would understand that.
Kind I think so yeah.
And you workedat, enlightenment counseling centers.
Enlightenment Counseling center.
Ktvb.comis your website? Beautiful website.
Thank you.
You have, like,
pretty flowers and picturesand explains everything that you do. Yes.

(06:56):
Who does your website?
So we actually just hired,a family friend who has her own business,
a younger guy who is just kicking buttwith everything very well,
you know, connected to the grouppractices, mental health aspects.
So already came in prepared.
And, you know, kind of really gotto understand my niche, the niche of what

(07:18):
we're trying to do, what we're aboutand then created kind of based on that.
Yeah, I like it. Yeah.
I think you and you're workingwith your good friend Nicole.
It's my girl Nicole.
We've been colleagues, for over 20 years. Wow.
And I think I was telling youbefore we actually started off
in the 998 Farmington Avenue rightacross from Luna Pizza.
So this is so cool to be here becausewe've come here and have lunch with them.

(07:41):
And we shared a
small little basement office,we've split it in half.
I was pregnant with Kingsley, my son,which we'll talk about.
She was pregnant as well.
We're like, let's experiment withprivate practice and see how this goes.
And within I think five months,I was like, this is for me.
I know it is.
And I worked really hard for a good year.
Full time jobs, two full time jobs.
Got the case load up, you know,and then eventually left.

(08:02):
Wheeler. Yeah.
And, yeah.
So then we were together,
and then we've evolvedinto a bigger space, subleasing that.
And then we realized,you know, like our energies,
our missions are sticking tothe community.
People want to work with us
or anyone that they knowthat we know that we can recommend.
So the business was born. That's amazing.
Yeah.
Right across the streetbecause Luna Pizza's 999 Farmington.

(08:24):
I know, and. You're at 9.98.
Yes. Suite 207. Yeah.
Phone number 78607293284.
Email address.
So we can do EC assistance 2021 at gmail.
That's like,for the administrative person.
I can answer those questions.
Very cool, very cool.

(08:45):
No, I feel no.
May mental health is very important.
I feel exercisehelps me with my mental health.
Health? How do you feel about that?
Exercise is key.
Do you suggest everyone get out and move?
I mean, it is medicine for sure.
It's it's not just,an integrative approach, which is what I,

(09:05):
you know, kind of focus on, but it's froma physical standpoint, obviously, too.
Right?
Letting alone like the mind and youremotions, but the health that it brings is
just so, you know, unsurmountableit affects you in so many different ways.
So in my clinical work,
you know, I'mworking with people who have depression,
who have anxiety with a hard timemaybe leaving their home sometimes.
So movement is beyond exercise,but it's more about moving the body.

(09:27):
We're not looking to really sweat rightnow. It's not.
It's just about breaking patterns,
moving the body, taken in the sunlight,taken in the fresh air.
So it begins like that, right?
And then it can evolve into so much more.
I'm a yoga practitioner.
I'm very much into hiking and,you know, really
like long, long walksand these kind of things.
So you can, you know, evolveand find your own kind of niche.

(09:49):
But without a doubt, movingthe body is, is needed to be.
Well, what would be some other keysto having a good mental health exercise?
Moving.
Yeah.
So I mean again this talking about it,
this integrative approach is beautifulbecause it really helps me.
What's that term for integrative.
Integrative is a psychotherapistthat is, you know,
licensed clinician trained in all the kindof traditional psychotherapies.

(10:11):
Gotcha.
But also trained in complementaryand alternative medicine.
So that becomes like the meditation,like the breath work,
like the somatic movement,which is really working
with the body and movement, and even like pain or distress in the body
as a way to access emotions and accessmaybe even traumas.
Okay.
And so it's an eclectic approach,you know, to really understand,

(10:35):
how a person is functioningand then where they can also be, you know,
kind of hurting or suffering.
So, yeah, so depending on that,you know, you can use,
I do a lot of visualization and imagery,for example,
as a powerful tool to begin your daykind of seeing yourself happy.
Content, happy, saying hello to everybodywith with use a lot with who are bullied.
Do a lot of work of like imagine yourself,you know, walking in.

(10:58):
How do you handle a situation?Who's around you?
How are you feeling? Right.
So just one little example of like imageryas a as a tool.
Breathwork is another onethat's a huge piece of what I do for real
is really focusing on teachingabout breath regulation, not getting.
So there's a lot in the breathworkworld now.
There's so many techniquesand different modalities,
but just the the basic diaphragmaticbreathing is what I start with.

(11:22):
And this is just a very specific breaththat we know is connected
to the central nervous system.
Mental health
is not only emotional and physical,but it's physiological.
When we suffer from our mental health.
And so that's one aspectthat as an integrative therapist
I'm very focused onis your central nervous system,
and the gut health to other kind ofoutside the boxes aspects

(11:45):
that get affected by distress emotionalor or mental psychological.
So treating those as well.
So depending on what we're kind of when.
I hear gut health is that the food thatyou intake and drinks that you intake or.
So gut health is the healthof your microbiome, which is your stomach.
Right.
So we understand that, neurothere's a lot of neurotransmitters

(12:07):
that live in our bellies.
So when we have depression or anxiety,
it's like 80% are living in thisin the gut, and people don't understand.
It's not meant they're not in the brain.
They live here.
So elaborate.
Go on.
Stress is interesting.
Like, intricate kind of thingbecause it's.
But nothing to do with the foodthat you eat.
Well, yeah, the food, the food. Yeah.
So I look at it as your, your gut healthis like a garden and you have soil

(12:31):
and then we have good bacteriaand bad bacteria.
That's the normal human.
When we have too much to stress,we live in chronic anxiety.
Our gut healthgets really dysregulated. Right.
So we have a lot more bad bacteria.
We tend to then crave sugar and dairy.
So that's where the connectionand those types of foods actually feed.
The bad bacteria make us sicker and makeus more anxious, make us more depressed.

(12:55):
Got this like, kind of like thingthat you're stuck in the yeah.
You when someone's at work
and you're like, I'm having a rough day,I need chocolate.
Is that but. That cravings, cravings.
You know, the idea of like, yeah,but I mean and cocoa
a good chocolate is actually good for you.
I would recommend like if you get likethe clean stuff, it actually is good.
Yeah.
But it's more like, no, it's likethe person would be suffering with it.

(13:15):
They have chronic anxiety.
Let's say they have issues with digestion,whether it's, you know,
one or the other.
They have issues with flatulence.
They have with,you know, uploading, loading.
So there's like physical symptomsthat, dysregulation in your belly.
And then then based on that, you will eatbased on how you're feeling anxious.

(13:36):
You'll eat food, or.
It will affect how you eatand what you eat as well. Yup, yup.
And to actually heal that is this is wherelike the integrative approach again,
I work with naturopathic doctorsvery closely with functional doctors
with acupuncture isand and like massage therapist,
trauma focused massage therapistbecause everything is like complementary.
It's all connected.And I understand that. Right.

(13:57):
So it's like not only am I integrativein what I'm bringing, but also working
within the community of healersand knowing
mind, body, spirit who can do whatand kind of all working as a.
Partner and collaborate.
You send some partner collaborate.
These are how they're doing. Wow.
I have clients that want
to get off medication, for example,and it's been pretty successful

(14:18):
where I've worked with my doctors,you know, that I have great relationships
with and we've helped a lot of clientscome off medication, moving
to natural supplementsto still manage depression or anxiety.
A lot of times the medications themselvesare exasperating symptoms
or creating other symptoms.
And so a lot of the patients comein, they don't know where to start.
It's like, well,I've been on these meds for 20 years.

(14:39):
I have so many different meds,I feel like crap, what is going on right.
So it's so again, that integrativeapproach is, is having that lens.
And rather than just talking abouthow you're feeling today.
Right. It's like, no, right.
Where is the feeling in your body?
Let's connect with that.
Let's let it express itself. Right.
Let's maybe bring in some imageryto bring some soothing to that.

(15:01):
Let's maybe do a little body workto ground your body move, you know?
Right. So yeah.
And then let's do some breathwork,a meditation where we end the session,
you're calm and then, you know, so,like the session itself is medicine.
I always tell my clients like therapy.
The session is the medicine.
You know, in so many different ways.
I saw that.
And you, you do sessionsyou can pay per session.

(15:21):
I saw it on the website.I think that's great.
Do you have an introductorylike a first time lesson?
Session?
Session?
I usually do like a ten, 15 minute phoneconversation consultation where they are.
Yeah. Now, is that free?
It's for free. Okay. Yep.
So if you're listening.Yeah. Check it out.
We gave we'll share the websiteand the email again.
But, if you're thinking, you know.

(15:44):
Yeah.
No, I'm talking about it.And I feel like already that tapping
I still feel it a little bitin my forehead.
I have I clench my jaw sometimes.
Exactly where would I tap if I clench jaw?
So I mean,
the human is very intuitively guided,you know, and we get headaches sometimes.
And when I,when I'm doing my energy medicine class
and we're talking about learningall these points in the forehead,
and they're like these technical termsand I'm like,

(16:07):
yeah, she's like, how often do we seehumans when they're stressed out, do this?
It's it's an innate
knowingness that that we're nowjust reminding you guys, hey,
there's actually acupuncture points herethat you're touching by just doing this.
So with the mouth I do a lot of massaging,a lot of work, you know, helping
the client identify where they holdtheir stress is like that baseline.

(16:28):
The first month is really like,how are you presenting with everything?
And then using the body as a way to,also relax the anxiety.
Right.
So we'll start practiceswhere we'll do I'll do a whole regimen.
We write it down five minute massage here.
Then we're going to do somelymphatic work.
We're going to move some,you know, the lymph some kind of this.
Is all in one session.This can be one session.
All of it. Visualize depending on we.

(16:49):
Get it all in.
Wow. Depending on what's going on.
That creates the term integrative.
Yes. Gotcha.
I'm with you now. Yep.
This is great. I'm learning a lot.
I've known you for quite some time.
Yeah.
And I'm so excited that we finally getto chat to my good friend Jenny.
What are some.

(17:10):
All right,so you are a cycle therapist? Yes.
Let me shout out some sponsors first.
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Yes. 999 Farmington Ave.
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cheating agency,

(17:32):
West Hartford lock. Yeah.
So with West Hartford Lock,
what are three keysthat make you a great psychotherapist?
Three keys are my genuine,
love and passion for this work.
It shows. Yeah.
The respect that I have for humans.
I truly have worked at so many differentpeople.

(17:53):
Hundreds,I want to say thousands of humans.
And, I just respect diversity.
I just, you know, respect, uniqueness.
I've been exposed toso much, through my work, and I've heard
pretty much everything
you can imagine, good and bad,that can happen to human lives.
And so bringing that,you know what I mean?
Like just holding space for everybody.
So able to do that without judgment. And.

(18:17):
Love for
people, love for your job and love for.
Love for the third one.
And passion.
Passion for you
and the gifts. I have.
Nice gifts.
No, I don't know. Speaking of gifts, yes.
Oh, well. Well,first we get in how we know each other.
So. Yeah, you are the room parent.

(18:37):
I was. For my third. Grade. Yeah.
So Kinsley, shout out to my guy Kinsley,I miss you.
Oh, I remember you.
You stand out.
Your phenomenal student,classmate and friend.
He he cared for others.
He cared about his classwork.
He cleared about other kids classwork.
He just enough.
So whatever you're doingas a psychotherapist and a parent.

(18:58):
Congratulations. I'm.
Thank you.
You know, be very proud becauseKinsley know the kid can be box the kid.
Drum the kid can be a. Can
be a reporter.
Right. Break dance.
No pinky break dances, playsbasketball, play soccer.
Oh, and loves his video games, of course.
So it's a balance that we keep.

(19:20):
A great kids.
Great kid. Yeah.So you were the room parent.
And so I get gifts at the end of the year.
Do you remember what gift you gave?You gave me.
We gave you guys with the tree. Right.
We got gift certificates. Okay.
But you personally gave me a gift too.
Oh. What was. It?
It was like a salt rock that you plugin. Yeah.
That's right, the Himalayan salt rock.
Yes. My daughter uses it to this day.

(19:41):
That's awesome.
I had it down by an officeI got by my computer.
But I guess that's not the place for it.
You want it in your bedroom near your bed?
It wouldn't be bad by a computer either,
because it does neutralizeall those energies.
Okay, like I have a whole bunchof little things near my phone and stuff
that are like these, likestones, the copper in it to try to like,
you know, kind of work with the infraredand all the different kind of thing.

(20:02):
So you could use it in that way.
But wherever you're called to use it, it'sgoing to work.
Okay.
So you're big into the energy.
And do you do singing bowls a lot? Yep.
So I do.
I have like five crystal ballsat the office.
Big ones, all different.
Quartz is frequenciesI have about six different Tibetan bowls.
Do you hit it and say, hey, breatheuntil you can't hear it anymore?

(20:22):
Or do you do.
I use an intuitive.
So a part of me to me is I'm very intuitive.
So, you know, I have all these toolsthat I can work with and identify
and whatever calls me.
So, I do have them organizedby like the chakra that we work with.
So each chakra,these are like energy centers
that the human, you know,has, has a different frequency.

(20:44):
And so these crystal ballsare all different frequencies.
So the a the dino, theoh you hit a certain.
Way, it'll. Affect the ideas and.Someone's body.
Working on somebody's body part.
Yeah, yeah.
Now what do you say to a skeptic.
So I'm not. Scared. No,I hear you, I believe.
But what have you say? Someone like.
Come on, are you serious?
I rub hereand it affects, a body part down here,

(21:05):
or I hit a soundand it affects your your your stomach.
What would you say to someone?
I would sayyou have to experience it first.
Because it's don't want to go to shrines,you know,
also, I'm not hereto convince anybody of anything.
Okay?
Honestly, at this point in my life,
my career, I'm very clear about whatI'm providing.
And I'm here for the world.
And whoever wants this, great.

(21:25):
I'm not trying to step outside of itor rationalize.
Good answer. I love that. Answer.Yeah, that's the truth. Yeah.
Also, you set up a booth at Johnny SCG.
Yeah, two years in a row.
Yeah. No, look, four is it four?
We've been next to each other for yearsthe whole time.
Oh yeah. Pretty much. Okay.
Yeah. Like at least three, four years.
Oh, nice. Yeah. Sorry. No it's okay.

(21:45):
No, no. Yeah. Yeah.I definitely have seen you.
Yes I don't know. That'sall right. My bad.
It was more than two.
I think so, yeah. We've been doing itlike five years now.
Oh nice. Yeah.You had, you had your singing bowl.
You had a lot of things out. Yes.
So I like to shuffle.
Is purple a certain colorfor a certain reason?
Purple is like one of the branding colors.
But I would also sayit's connected to the third eye.

(22:05):
So there is a connection to.
I've a purple shirton to the opening of the Third
Eye, the, amethyst stone,which are very healing.
So yeah, there's definitelyand it's just a color I resonate with.
Like I have certain colors and numbersthat I connect with that mean
certain things to methat I express myself through.
So it's a wonderful color, I love it.
Yeah. Well, you pointed out the shirt,so I might as well give it.

(22:28):
Yeah, I got to give my guy a shout out.That's right. This is Parker
Parker's posse.
Parker's from Bristol. A little guy,
has diagnosed with arthritis,but he raised.
And we walked at the HartfordAthletic Stadium for arthritis.
Five k Parker,one and raised the most money.
So shout out to my guy Parker.

(22:48):
He's a great person and a great friend.
His mom, Mary, and his dad, Paul,they call him his last name is
positive. Santo a messenger. Yep.
So there's Paul one and two.
Mary Paul and Parker Pope. Sweet.
So shout out to Parker purple.
And he raised the most.So congratulations again.
He was on with Renee Tenino.

(23:09):
He's a great kid. Great kid.
And I was really honoredto be a part of it.
We're on the back.It says parents, friends. It's brand new.
School.
Yeah, I see them super cool friends.
That I can't get out of.
Mount Southington and friends and family,but, Yeah, Mount Southington.
Yeah, they work at Mount.
So I'll do it again. But.

(23:32):
Got it.
Boom.
Yeah. That rock light is.That was very cool.
So thank you again for that gift.
Yeah. Thank you for being our room parents.
You and Karina did a great job.
Thank you.
Is Kinsley still cool with Christian?
Yes. Yeah.
Yep. Is Kinsley still cool with Gus? Yes.
Oh my God, yeah, that's the crew grow.
I want to say Gus and Christian.

(23:54):
Did I have them in second grade?
I had a couple kids I moved up with.
Maybe they were Christian.
Who knows?
It's been a while.
Yeah, I looped with five kids.
Okay. Second grade to third.
Kinsley was not one of them.
No, no, no,you were his first male teacher.
Because, yes.
I was his best. Best male teacher.
Tell Mr. Dicks that.

(24:15):
He, No, he had a great time with youin that classroom.
Really? It was really.
He's a great. Kid.
It's easy to have a good timewith good kids, right?
Yeah. Yeah.
Kind good. Kid, good kid. Yeah.
Oh, and then Kinsley dad,
once at drop off, was wearingan American Dream Team hat USA hat.
I'm like, oh, that's that's an awesomefirst day of school.

(24:37):
I said that last day of school.You know what I got as a gift? What?
The hat you did.
Oh my guy Mike.
Thank you. Awesome.
Oh, so you. Guys hooked it up.So thank you so much.
She's going to it's going to it's
going to get a lot of hatsand a lot of sneakers.
My dad he's a collector. Yeah. So.
Oh yeah I complimented his J's too. Yeah.
Jordans. Yeah. Mike.
Nice hat, nice sneakers.

(24:57):
He wears, like a size 15 or something too.
Yeah, because I'm a size 11,and I was like, maybe.
You're like, no. I'm not going. To work.
What are some.
So I had some questions.
I looked on mine.
Body medicine and energy medicine.
Yeah.
Can you compare and contrast those two?
Yeah. So it seems like a.

(25:17):
Those are two of the main modalitiesthat I'm trained
in, in terms of complementaryand alternative medicine.
And my body medicine is reallyany techniques that are either kind of
being used from the body to help the mindor to use the mind to help the body
or techniques that supportboth the physical and the mental.

(25:38):
Right.
So, meditation can be a mind bodytechnique, right?
I do a lot of meditation using the bodyto induce a deep relaxation.
Right.
Or again, using the imageryto relax the body so you know, different.
The tapping is another example of that.
What about okay.
Yeah.
So spirituality.
Spirituality. Yeah.
So you praying to a god or something else.

(26:00):
So with the mind body though
I want to just talk about like I knowbiofeedback is another kind of practice.
I don't know if you're familiar with it,which is so freaking incredible.
It's an older model.
It's been around like for PTSD,
the vets, you know, from many, many, kind of, times ago.
And it's very, very powerful,and a technique for,

(26:21):
you know, working with PTSDand these kind of things, so I can that's
I feel like that's a whole worldspeaking about how that works,
but it's really
like working with the brain wavesor muscle tension, your heart rates.
And through imagery and breathworkmeditations, really learning
how to calm your brainwaves downto different levels,
really working with the muscle tensionto help relax and and diety.

(26:44):
So it's super, super cool.
And there's a lotwithin that Eden energy medicine.
I come up. Sorry. Yeah. Go for it.
So now
let's go.
It's one of my faves. Gymnast.
You're still being a gymnast?
Not anymore. I you keep. Track.
Awesome. Come say hi to the camera.Come on. Say hi.

(27:04):
Right here.
Hello, son. Are you.
Do you like me? We're doing a pod.
This is. Jenny'sone of my students parents.
So psychotherapistmay is mental health month.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, which is awesome.
Yeah, it's calledFeeney Talks with friends on YouTube.
This is episode 137.
You're going to be on there? Yes.

(27:25):
You know, no. It's great.
What grade are you in there? I was, okay.
Yeah, I went to your gymnastics thingand you came in first place.
It was amazing. That's awesome. All right.
Love that. I want to keep you up.So great to see you.
Nice to meet you.Take care. Okay. Oh, yeah.
I love that.
Yeah, that was great.
I've seen old clients though. Yeah.

(27:46):
If this out of me.So I'm like I can't say hi to them.
They have this anime.
True.
That's a little I know one of the many.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Who's this guy?
I don't know this guy. I'm like hey you.
Oh no. She. Oh that's tastic.
So add that in.
So what's Kinsley in now?
Seventh grade. He's sixth grade,sixth grade, sixth grade.
And then going throughall those nice changes.

(28:07):
But he's doing good.
He's got. The mustache. Yeah.
Oh yeah. It's comingin. Is he talking like this? You know.
Yeah. Well, what's for dinner?
Did try to get in my bed last night.I was like, you are way too big.
I'm like, get out of here, okay.We can't sleep like this anymore.
Oh my God.He's like, come on. I'm like, not go.
So anyways, yeah.
So the eat the eat an energy medicine isanother, you know, kind of training.
It's really working with like nineenergetic bodies of the human

(28:30):
that's like beyond. It'snot in the textbooks.
It's stuffthat like it's just so hard to explain,
but it's also workingwith Chinese medicine and,
you know, just a mixingof a whole bunch of different things.
So that is another technique where again,we do the tapping, we do the acupuncture,
we do a lot of like more like moving thebody, shaking it, sweeping energies away.

(28:51):
Oh yeah. So wewe must live in the same neighborhood.
But when I see you walk. Yes.You're reaching up.
Yes. You're going,you're doing arm movements.
You're not just walking.
No. So is that somethingthat you're talking about?
So I do qigong.Qigong is a practice. It's like.
Qigong.
Qigong Kee yong gong a g o energy
Q you g like there's like technicalway of doing it.

(29:13):
Just like depending on the language.
I think you're speaking. Gotcha.
But I think it's technical as Qyou Gyeonggi could be wrong.
Can't remember now.
But yeah, so that's just like again,a lot of like, You do a lot of.
Physical.
Everything's very smoothand fluid with your.
Moves, right?
Like everything like yoga. Right.
Can you do walking yoga.
Is that what you're doing? Yes,I do that as well. Yeah, that's a thing.

(29:35):
Yeah.
You didn't just make it up.
No walking yoga or sitting yoga.
So we do a lot of like chairyoga is a big one right now for people.
Can't move too much. I can bend heavier.
That might be.
But literally you can do a nice 30 minutesession of yoga on a chair.
So I'm trained in that also likearomatherapy is another big one
that I use or plant medicineI have like the best essential oils.

(29:57):
I feel aroma that just came in and out.
Like, well, that's an aroma.
It's a good one.
Depending on what's going on.
But you know, so yeah, so doing so I tailor like my oils in the office
every day.
I kind of intuitively make blendson what I'm feeling,
but other oils that I have are workingon different parts of the brain.
So, like, I'm pretty research in that.

(30:19):
And I know kind of the clients,the press. I'll pull one out special.
Let's let's start with this.
Let's shake up a little bit
and then or at the end to ground back inafter a stressful session.
So I use that in so many different ways.
But that's super impactfuland sustainable, right.
So a lot of the work that I do is it'sreally cool because yes, at the beginning
the practitioner needs to facilitate,and I very much use it in clinical ways.

(30:41):
But I teach my clients everythingso they leave or they,
you know, start to create this.
What I literally I have them do in
their homes is like this huge boardmind body spirit practices.
So when I wake up, how am I feeling?
I teach them how to check in, checkingin everything, assessing their energy,
and then, okay, I'm feeling this, I'mgoing to do this, this imagery,
okay, I'm feeling this.
I'm going to go do this bodywork. I'm feeling this.

(31:02):
So they they if this do that,they have this organized system
of all these techniques that we usebecause there really are so many.
Do you ever see the
ones where it's like take tendeep breaths, look in the mirror, say,
I love you, drink some wateror read a book, do some push ups.
I've I done that one.
How's that one sound?I saw it on Instagram.

(31:23):
I think I do mirror work.
So again me as a clinicianhow I do things is very different.
It's much more tailored.
It's much harder,you know clinically focused.
So I'm all about the mirror work.
Yeah I think look. In the mirror and say.Mirror.
It's never that easy.
Who, depending who we're talking tothat could actually backlash you.
If you tell a person to look in the mirrorand their self-talk is so dark and deep,

(31:45):
and then it could lead to,I don't want to be.
I mean, I'm saying it's, dependentwho are working with,
you know what I'm saying?
But a client mirror work is a very,you know, sensitive technique.
It's not for everybody.
So I think maybe when you seethese TikToks and these, they generalize
these techniques, that's the differencebetween somebody doing an TikTok versus
a practitioner who's trained and knowswhen to use these certain technique.

(32:07):
Interesting.
Yeah.
I'm glad you said thatbecause I could be found as Joe Schmo
and it might not work the way it should.
No, because he has no background,no training.
He's just some guy on YouTubetelling, right?
Tell yourself you love.
I love myself is going to be a great day.
I think there's a timeand a place for that,
but I just not everyone's going to be

(32:28):
see that, understandthat, be able to do that.
It's so it's it's depending on where youare truly with yourself and you're like
self-awareness and you're healingand you're where, you know what I mean?
Like your, your, your current state.
That would dictate kind of likeif that could be beneficial or not,
but it's. All. Intersubjective.
Yeah.
What would you say?
I it's a tough question, but what wouldwhat would be your first advice

(32:51):
for someonethat has anxiety or depression.
That tough.
Recognize that you have
it and name it, name it, name it.
Name it one or the other,or give it a name like Charlie or Bob.
No, no, like not name it like, give it aname, but like know that you have anxiety.
I have a lot of clients that have beenfunctioning in these energies,
in these ways for so longthat they will often say, this is me.

(33:14):
And I'm like, this isn't you.
This is the conditionthat that you think is you.
You're you're like deeply in in there,but that's not you.
So a lot of people have just get so usedto this state of being
frazzled, worried, stressed out you know.
Yeah. And that's theirthat's the baseline.
So when I say like nameit it seems simple.
But you know a lot of peopledon't even know this is like their norm.

(33:36):
So coming to therapy and validatingknow you have a diagnosis.
This is what this is,
is that alone is a life changerbecause it's like oh my God, really?
I never even knew that this isn't normal.
This isn't all supposed to be.
I'm not supposed to be acting this way.
So a lot of times we just acceptit's just yeah, the naming it
and the acceptance is another aspectthat I have clients that still 1

(33:58):
to 2 years, three years cannot accept it.
And when I see thatin that their conditions. Right.
And that could be any medical conditionbecause at the end of the day,
we're dealt with whatever we're dealt withand not everything's going to go away.
But learning to live with things in peaceand happiness is what we can do.
Those are our choices.
So the accepting of it, for some peoplewith a lot of trauma
who've been judged their whole,you know, their whole lives, the,

(34:21):
it's it's this kind of like, what's the word like,
defensiveness of like, I'm not going tokeep changing who I am, I don't I
the whole the world always told me I'm
not good enough,and now I have to accept this.
And, you know, so it's within that context.
And, like I hear you that we're kind of,you know, bundling this
into all the negativeyou've heard about you your whole life,
and you're here,and that's why you don't love yourself.

(34:42):
And you have such a negative,you know, self script.
But in this case, this is a conditionthat was read that resulted from trauma,
her abuse in your life and the mind.
You know, I mean, God createda whole new script based on what you heard
that was very not healthy.
So it's like helping people see, you know,you're not
we're not blaming you like,this is nobody's fault.

(35:03):
This happenedbecause you're like a sponge.
Humans are.We just absorb, absorb, absorb, absorb.
And when you have parentsthat are fighting all the time,
that are not happy,
that are miserable, that maybe sometimesdon't even connect with you,
which is sadly that a lotthat exists, you know, that becomes
like your own script and that becomeslike your own self-perception.
Right?
So it's it's powerfulto help them empower them by

(35:27):
naming it, but also knowing that there'sso much more behind this.
But we have to know
that this is a deep layer that's not you,and you have to know this, you know.
And then does it a certain age,
you know, affect mental health differentlike younger or older when you get like
old or older this mental health affectsyou differently.
Obviously I don't know I don't know if it affects you differently

(35:51):
because Imean, depression is depression, right?
But I mean, in terms of thethe typical common kind of symptoms.
Yeah, I think the more life you have them
and the longer you live in that pathologyand more hurtful
experiences happen because you are livingfrom not feeling worthy enough.
So you're an unhealthy relationship,you're miserable,

(36:11):
you don't have a relationshipwith your kids,
you don't go after your career,you're not happy.
So you can see the olderperson has more layers of pain, trauma
that's still rooted from the same thingthat they are, you know, depression.
So it gets more it's more complex,many more layers
to kind of unravel from, but healing is possible.

(36:31):
And I think that's a big pieceof what I want to say.
Like why I'm so passionate aboutthis is like healing can happen to anyone.
And they are the.
Age, no matter what age,no, it's a subjective word healing.
It really is.
I don't see it as a black and white word,you know what I mean?
I think healing can be knowing yourcondition, knowing how to keep it at bay,
knowing how to tend to it,knowing how to prevent it.

(36:53):
But you still may have symptoms
and that's
healing, you know, I mean, forsome people who are minerals,
very stress variablesjust had maybe one situation happened.
Every good support system,more protective factors.
They will be able to move through thingsfaster or eliminate symptomology.

(37:13):
So when a client's likehow long am I going to be like this?
I'm like, tell me,
like I can, I can tell you withinsix months you're going to be here.
Within a year you'll be here.
Within a couple years you'll be here.
So my treatment is usually 2 to 3 years.
So it's very long termdeep, deep, deep work.
But it's life changing.
They don't have to come back to therapy.
A lot of my clients come after 15,20 years of therapy,

(37:34):
you know, and just have not been ableto move through.
And then I, you know, they come in with meand it's like, it's a life changer.
Nice. Yeah.
All right.
You heard it here first. 998
enlightened counsel setting
our integrative psychotherapy.
Jenny and Nicole.
Yeah.
So, Nicole, my motto is be a good friend.

(37:56):
Hold the door.
Pick up trash. It's not yours.
Give compliments. Be charitable.
Smile, smile I love smiling.
What makes Nicole a good friend?
What makes Nicole a good friend is her
support. Unconditional support.
She knows me.
She knows my energies.She knows my passion.
She trusts me and believes in me andreally gives me a lot of space to create.

(38:20):
She has her, you know, role withinthe practice, which she's very happy with.
So we're both very balancedand happy in what we're doing.
So that's great.
Like, I feel, you know, just supportand openness and honesty of it.
Yeah. Nicole, you're a good friend. Yeah.
What minute are we.So we could send this to Nicole.

(38:42):
Then at 39.
What about someone that's like, oh, you'redepressed, you got to get out and move.
You got to get out and exercise.
But that person that's depressed is like,I can't I'm like stuck, I can't move.
Or when someone
it's so easy for the outsider to say,hey, you got to move, you got to move.
What, what where's the challenge?
Where's the where's the suggestionor advice for that situation.

(39:04):
Compassion.
Is the first step understandingthat it's not by choice
and, and really you know, holding spacefor how hard that must be
that you can't move your body, you know,and that if you could, you would.
Yeah.
So I always tell people like oh you're I'mlike, you don't people don't understand.
I just like there's so muchdepth in everything.

(39:24):
It's not of a personjust refusing to be lazy like I.
I hate thatbecause that's there's such a story there.
It's notI don't want to be lazy, you know?
I mean, it's there's so many othervariables and factors that go into that.
So compassion, validation of what they'vebeen feeling with how hard that must be.
And then,you know, through that connection again,
if I was a therapist, it'sthat would create that space

(39:45):
and they start to open upabout what's going on.
And it's, there'sso many different stories and things that,
you know, you wouldn't even imagine, like,oh, I don't have clothes to fit in.
I don't have clothes anymore.
I have one client, one clientthat has this condition.
Now she sweats just walkingfrom the stairs to the elevator,
you know, I mean,so she's super embarrassed.
You know, I have other peoplethat don't have a space to walk
because they live in, like,huge buildings.

(40:06):
And there's, you know,I mean, so there's just so many scenarios.
And humans, some humans are so,you know, easy to judge and be like,
that's bad, that's good.
And I'm like,you guys don't even know shit.
You know what I mean?There's so much else going on.
So validation. Yeah.
How would someone that's strugglingwith aging like getting older is tough on
some people have, you know,

(40:26):
do you have clients
that struggle with that or does that leadto anxiety and depression?
And what suggestions and advicedo you have for someone like that?
Yeah, I mean, I haveone of my new clients is in her early 60s
and she's looking at retirementand, you know, she wants to travel.
She's gained a lot of weight in the last,
you know,whatever amount of, of months or years.

(40:48):
And so she is depressed, right.
And she obviously, you know, wants toand she's focusing on the aging.
And I'm helping her read,you know, change that picture because
it's not the aging, it's the body'sstill strong and doing its thing.
Right.
It's the decisions of choices thatwe're making because of the idea of aging.

(41:08):
So you then you start to buildand you really it's
not about the aging, it'sthe energy connected to the idea of aging.
So once we explain that,which again, is very central nervous, the.
Idea.
Of aging, that makes it scary.
Yeah.
But so it's more up here than yes here.
Yes, yes. Interesting.
And I mean,I do believe that the body is made to last

(41:32):
and can I oftenwill say I want to die healthy.
That's what I say about myself,because I don't think I need disease
to, you know, equate getting older.
I want to die healthybecause the system is made to support us
for some amount of time.
And it has this beautiful, automatic wayof taking care of itself
and being so horrible.
This avatar, I call it sometimes, really.

(41:53):
And so yeah, so aging doesn't equal that.
Not in my mind.
It doesn't, you know,but there's a lot of other aspects.
So as a therapist, we can't changethe reality of things like your aging.
Yeah.
But it's really helping them,you know, reframe
reframing is everything in therapy.
And a lot of my clients be like,what you just said, just this,
is that reframing is like,oh, she never saw that perspective.

(42:15):
Yeah. And then that just gets theminto a whole different understanding.
It's a different, you know, angle.
It gives them more power to do new things.
It's just so, so amazing.
So aging is part of life.
You know, all of us,I mean, I'm getting I'm getting older and
and I see it, I'm just like,oh, it's so beautiful.
Like, I mean, what do you get to do?
Okay. For like, interesting. Yeah.
I got the receding hairline going.

(42:36):
I got the gray hair going.
Oh. Me too.
The gray hair got. The comb over.
Oh, I have my aging things happening too.
What about.
Oh, so I.
Just so humbling I love it I think. Yes.
And I'm telling all the third
graders because this is the first timethey take Spanish and I'm, like,
learning Spanish or learninganother language is like a superpower.

(42:56):
Totally.
What would you say to students
that are learning a new language,or how does this help you in your field?
Because I know you're bilingual.
I am, yeah, right. Yeah. Yeah.
Well,I love the superpower that just the term
they use superpowerbecause I'm all about that.
Like, what are the superpowersthat we don't have,
whether it's foodsthat are superpower foods
or aspects of ourself of like decidingand choosing that's a superpower.

(43:16):
Like to decide is power, right?
So anyways, I played with that worda lot. Superpower. Yeah.
But in this case you're asking meabout what being bilingual.
Oh, bilingual. Yeah.
So I.
Think you advertise that on your websiteto bilingual.
Psychotherapist. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
I mean, Spanish was my first language,not English.
So I speak to them very fluently.
My parents did a really good jobat maintaining

(43:37):
that Colombian energy in our homeour whole lives.
The customs, the language, the everything.
So I really have felt like this beautifulbalance of Colombian and American energy.
I've been saying this my whole life.
So and, you
know, any other languagejust gives you more access to more people,
more community, more ways of viewing lifeand seeing life, which is powerful

(43:58):
because there's just so much outsideof where we are.
And client Spanish clientslove working with a,
you know, like originally Spanishclinician because and a lot of them,
I do work with a lot of women right nowwho will say, no one understands, like,
for example, the Spanish mother,like a Spanish woman.
Yeah, literally.
You know whatI mean? I've already planned.
She's like, I need a womanthat can understand the the Colombian.

(44:20):
I'm like, I'm cool.
I'm like, yes,I do understand the Colombian mother.
So that alone was what she neededfor engagement.
Didn't care about my experience.She's like, are you Spanish?
And do you know what is Beatriz mother?
I'm like, I do, so that alone is great.
So that just connectionis, you know, just allows more people
to come in to work with me,to work with our therapist for Latinos to
and to get really good support,you know, clinically savvy support.

(44:44):
So, yeah, it's a great,
Shout out to our third grade teacher,Monica.
Senora, mama bear. She's Colombian.
She's there.You talk to her about that, right?
We did talk over the years.Yeah, when she was there.
She's all this way. Yeah.
She teaches all the kidsand she does a wonderful job there.
She's kids are so engaged and excited.
Oh, they really are. So I love that. Yeah. That's great.

(45:06):
I wish my daughters just took a testthat honored
their certified bilingual.
Oh, my. Oh.
It's by, literate too. By literate.
Wow. Like it.
So there's a certification nowin high school.
Yeah. They took like an hour test.
They had to record a voice.They had to read.
Wow. Really intense.

(45:26):
It was like 2 or 3 hours,but good for them.
I'm very proud of them.
So I actually went to school in Spain.
This is fine.
In college, I did a summer abroadand I went to an actual university,
you know,all in Spanish, University of Alicante,
which is like right north westby the ocean.
Mediterranean.
Freaking amazing that I remembertaking lit courses and history courses

(45:48):
and all this stuff and like,so I got a minor in Spanish that I guess.
Yeah. Nice.
Yeah, yeah, it's a good, good thing.
So now and then, have youhow often do you go to Colombia?
When we were younger we would gomore often as we became adults.
You know, it was a lot of other tripskind of happening.
So I went two years ago and prior tothat had been like five years.

(46:09):
So, you know, my aunts come here too.
So they kind of rather come herebecause all the sisters are here.
So it's just kind of where we traveldifferent parts of each other. Different.
How many family membersdo you have a brother?
I have a brother and a sister.Where? All your part?
Yeah. Oh, wow. Where are your part?We were Connor.
Connor. Right. So the three of us were.
We're pretty well known in West Hartfordbecause we're all year far.

(46:30):
And we were fun people,if you know what I mean. Yeah.
So I got some questions for you.
Oh, okay. Who's your favorite niece?
Oh, really?
I have to answer that I can.
Who's your favorite?Oh, wait. What's your favorite thing is.
Oh well let's see.
This was written by someone too.
Oh, I'll tell you later.

(46:51):
Okay. Someone out walk. It. Oh.
Who's your what was your favorite thingas a therapist?
My favorite thing as a therapist.
I mean,
I do love seeing parents, children
heal and, like, say,they love each other after, like,
a lot of stress and traumaand to really feel.

(47:12):
Oh, so you do parent child. Do you do.
I also do. Marriage?
I don't do fam couples work right now.
I've done it all.
I mean, right now I definitely do women'smental health, primarily, parent work,
you know, with the moms that I'm workingwith, maybe have the kids come in and do
some family work with them, or husbandscome in to support their wives? Yep.
Depending on what we have going on. Yeah.
Do you have kids?

(47:33):
Yep. So I have Mr.
Kingsley Gallagher, whowe just talked about. Where are you from?
So I was born in Hartford and in the South
End, and I moved to West Hartfordin my freshman year of high school.
Who's your favorite sibling?
Oh, really? I can't.
You got to answer both.
No, I know I can. Again.
What's your favorite foodthat your mom cooks?

(47:53):
Sun. Gaucho.
Oh, okay.
So San.
Gotcha. Is a typical Colombian place.
Just like a hearty soupwith corn and plantain
and Jukun chicken or beef and carrots.
Just like this nice, chicken broth.
Where can you get it? Around here?
Franklin.
I mean, there's a couple,a Colombian restaurant.
So it's a typical plate.
Cinco, cinco.

(48:15):
Cinco.
I should interview.
Oh, your mom, her mom.
Why are you a therapist?
That a question?
This might have been writtenby your eldest niece.
Oh, no. Way.
Am I correct this year?
Oldest. She's my oldest.
Oh, she. She's the one.The one today. Oh, that's so cute.
She came in for a sticker. Yeah.

(48:36):
And I'm like, hey, I know she knew.
She goes, I'm. You're interviewingmy aunt.
I'm like, write down some questions.
That's a good. Job on your questions.
Who's my favorite? Awesome.
That's your first question I love it.Oh I love her.
And sibling was a good call to brag.
She's like my. Dad.
That's so cute I love that.

(48:57):
Yeah.
No it's a great familyI have a great family.
Yeah. Great family. Great kids. Yeah.
They're great kids too.
Yeah I missed the boat on Ella.
And who's the youngest Maya.
Maya. Maya is going to be fourthgrade now.
Next year she's are coming.
She's comingin. She's in third going is she.
Yeah. Or second. Not going to third.
Yeah. She's in second grade.
She's so bright and such a sparkleI'm like.

(49:19):
Yeah on second.
So maybe fingers crossed Maya.
Oh yeah. The trouble. Get me.
You know, be great.
No. Great. Ella.
Ella. Great questions.
Oh, that's so cute I love her.
You love humans.I love you also love dogs.
Oh, where am I going with that?
Oh. The dog.
Yes. The Berkeley,the famous day that was.

(49:40):
My dog is a labradoodle, and he'sstill here on this earth because of Jenny.
And I want to thank you.
Not only were you a great room parent.
Oh, I'm a great psychotherapist.
No, great at yoga.
But you saved my dog's life.
Oh, he must have escaped out of the house.
And he was on New Britain Avenue,running back and forth.
Stop traffic.

(50:02):
My daughters are crying.
You're in the street like this.
Like what's going on?
Yes, that's like my emergency doctorkind of thing.
I just come in in crisis and I.
Can someone call me crying or something?
I drove down,I left school early. That's right.
I remember you coming this way.Coming down.
I'm like, you want to go for a ride?And you open the door. Berkeley.
Wonderful ride. And he hops right in.

(50:22):
You saved the day.
So my wife thinks you.
Oh, I thank you, of course.
No, there is no other choice. I had to.
I mean, jeez, someone has to help out.
I changed, I changes everything.
Oh, you have a wonderful Instagram.
Let's talk about your Instagramand your first post.
I want to talk about two.
Well is it Instagram FacebookI mean so we have so that's the thing.
So I have the EnlightenmentCounseling Center right.

(50:44):
That was obviouslydoing the promotion for it.
But then I also have keptmy private practice separate from there.
So I treat themas two different businesses.
Oh you know so that'syeah that's enlightenment.
Yep yep yep.
So I thought it was very interesting.
Yeah. You must have just postedfrom earlier.
All the events you're. Doing.Today. Yes. Yeah.
This was from Saturdaybecause. It's the bottom one.
I thought three myths aboutfear. Therapy debunked.

(51:07):
Number one,
you need to hit rock bottombefore you go to therapy.
True or false? False.
It will wake you up, thoughwhen you hit rock bottom.
But don't wait.
But whatever you need to go through,you need to go through.
But yes. Two way that.
Do you remember what two is?
No. Therapists just tell you what to do.
You know how much I'm going on my brain.

(51:28):
Therapists just tell you what to do.
True or false.
If they do turn around.
It's not all about giving answers.
Now your therapist partners with you.
Yeah, I mean, I helpyou come to your own answers.
I'm not telling you anything. I love it.
Three talking about itwill just make it worse.
Sometimes I think that that'swhere the somatic work or the energy

(51:51):
work comes in, because talkingsometimes is to charge with emotion.
So what I would do is eithertapping technique like we did.
Yeah. If they come in.
Oh right.
So I'm not going to talk at that point.
I'm going to relax their system.
So validate how they're feeling.Look at me.
Keep them engaged okay. Follow menow let's go. Let's start doing this.
They don't even need meto know what I'm doing.
They don't need to understand that.I know that it's calming the system down.

(52:13):
Then maybe we can check in.
I just want to sit down.All right, you sit down.
You know, I have, like, different stonesthey can hold on to or have an oil.
They can decideso they can ground a little more.
How are you feeling now?
Oh, a little better.
So. Well, what do you want to talk about.
You know,so that's the beauty of this approach.
It's like,you know, I can even imagine like.
Something different. Every time.And you're like, okay, tell me about it.

(52:35):
I have to read the energy, you know,and these, these a lot of these do Reiki.
I do Reiki as well. I do Reiki.
Well I'm certified in Reiki.
I haven't done much
because I've kind of had a challengewith, knowing because it's like a very,
you know, kind of physicalwhere you can touch the client.
Sometimes you can be outside,they're feeling a little bit.
So I just haven't like really crossedthat line yet between like, you know,

(52:56):
the mental health client ethics of thatand kind of figuring out all that.
But but I very much work with the energiesI got trained in and certified.
So I received,you know, all the, the energies
from the skiesto be able to provide the support.
Nice. So, yeah. So I do all that.
Is there anything you think I
missedthat you'd like to share or talk about?

(53:17):
You're doing great work,and I'm so honored to talk with you today.
Being Mental Health Awareness Month, wherein May, it's mental health is important
every month, but it doesstand out and get it's recognition.
Do you know I may.
I don't know why I mayI'm sure there's a reason why.
I. Know.
Memorial Day.
Well, I learned more of these months.
Now it's more like the,

(53:37):
you know, the marketing kind of stuffin these last years.
It's not like
I like work my work around these months,but I mean, so
it's like they all havemeaning and reasons.
But either way, it's an opportunityto highlight.
Right.
And I think, you know, awarenessis the word that I like live for.
Right.
Awareness of yourself, awarenessof how you feel, awareness
of what you're doing, awarenessof how you're being with others.

(54:00):
Like a lot of people don't even knowwhat's going on with themselves.
So I start off sessions with everybody.
This might be something,you know, to start getting a baseline.
So putting an alarm on or something, depending on the environment,
the work stuff, weekendswe go more with it.
But I'm like, okay, set an alarm.
And every three hours,if you're in a school, your teacher,
this goes off and you take a minute or twoand you do a check in.

(54:20):
Where's my breath right now?
How is my body feeling?
What do I need right now?
You can see where's my breath right now?
How is my body feeling?
What am I needing?
So imagine just until that becomesautomatic, you know,
and of course looking balanced.
But so say kids, go to lunch.
In my classroom.
I'm by myself. Mother. Eat lunch.

(54:42):
I ask myself that question. Yes.
Where am I at right now?
Where's my breath right now?Hold my breath. Where's my breath?
How am I feeling?
And what do I need?
Yes. Wow,those three questions. That's it.
I'm going to try it.
Do it I, I'm going to challengeeveryone listening.
Yeah. Do those three. Ask yourselfthose three questions.
How's my body feeling?

(55:02):
How's my breath. What do I need right now.
All right.
I challenge my listenersto write handwritten notes
and take very cold showers.
But now we're going to dowhere's my breath.
Well how am I feeling. What do I need.What do I need.
Yeah I love it.
You're here to hear comment
and and let us know how you feelingwith those three important questions.
Yeah.

(55:23):
And that's really good with anxiety
because we're trying to kind of,interrupt the patterning a bit.
And with anxietybreathwork is the number one for me.
Right.So a lot of times we have short breath.
We have an idea of short breath.
I just feel it.
Oh yeah.
You're panting and nervous.
So you considered long so deep.
Once I get better. Yeah.
And do the nose for for hold it and outthrough the mouth for five.

(55:52):
To see.
I know I do that in my classroom.
I hit the singing bowl.
Sorry, I hit one. Stop what you're doing.
Two eyes on me. Three. Big breath.
And we all take a collective breathas a class, I love it.
And then sometimes we do five
deep breaths because these kids, like,you know, the huffing in the.

(56:14):
But just that alone, like, it's alreadya little brighter in here it is
after you take a deep breath,you feel a little more relaxed.
The shoulders are feeling better again.
It's brighter.
The brain feels like clearer.
More clarity, a little.
Yeah, yeah.
And breathwork.
I was going to say again,it's a whole chapter on its own.
It's a whole world. Right. But like, it'sinteresting doing the biofeedback.

(56:37):
So I was actually receiving biofeedback,which is I talked about it earlier
on kind of coming out of my own stuff,my own stress response, my own anxieties.
And then the last couple of years,I was like, you know,
I think it's time for me to receivea little bit of what I give to the world.
So I, you know, started my therapy againwith my own therapist,
and I started doing biofeedback,just really going strong.
And I know that I could handle both.

(56:57):
And with the biofeedback, it's,you know, you're you're you're connected.
Your brain's being measured on a computer,
your heart rate, your body temperature,your muscle tension,
and you're seeing the dataon the computer.
And you can see how you're manipulating
the different parts of the physiologythrough different practices.
So the AI, for me, based on my breathand what was going on with me,

(57:17):
we identified the five by five breath,which was exactly what I needed
based on my symptoms.
For some people, the diaphragm breath.
So, you know, breathing in forfor belly out, hold it.
Breath out for 5 billion.
It could be a very good techniquefrom somebody else.
There's a nostril breathing.
Oh breathe in one of the other.
Yeah I do that I do that.

(57:38):
So now so but all of these have different,you know, techniques to feed.
Exactly, exactly.
So it's not I'm sayingit's a world on its own.
So how precise. It could be.
They see the point to be generalto start with.
Anybody just education on breath.But I'm saying it could go so deep.
And that's why there's breath for,
you know, facilitators that just do thatbecause it's such a.
Wow. Technique. Yeah. Wow.

(58:01):
Any closing remarks before?
Because I got a gift from my last guest.
My last podcast was Ben Fuchs,financial advisor.
So if you're looking for financial advice,Ben Fuchs is your man.
And if you need anythingprinted brochures, signage,
golf balls.
You'll see cricket press on Park Road.

(58:22):
My friend Greg.
Stress balls. He'll do stress balls. Okay.
Cricket press.
Just one family business of the yearby the by the, Business Journal.
So awesome. But closing remarks first or.
Closing remarks, I think it's, you know,
the message that healing is possibleat any stage, any level of life.
You know, it doesn't mean it's easy or.

(58:43):
You know what I mean?It's a process. It's a journey.
But you can come to peace with life andbeing the now, because life is just now.
The eternal now is what I sayit is just now.
So just to bring that hope to people,you know, obviously we're around as well.
We are here. We have our office rightacross the street.
We're on 660 Prospect Avenueand it's called therapy rods.
A whole bunch of therapistsbeen there for about five years.

(59:05):
We do have openings in both offices.
We take all insurances.
We have opening for adolescents for,you know,
women's issues, Perry,postpartum, couples and families as well.
So, you know, give us a call,check out the website,
and we would love to connect with youguys.
Jenny, thank you so much for being here.
Again, Mental Health Month in May.

(59:26):
So I'm glad we got thispodcast in is very important topic.
Yeah. I love your family.
Kinsley is amazing.
Tell him I said hi. You're the man.
And where am I?
How am I breathing?
What do I need?
Let's remember that take away.
It's a huge take away today in breathing.

(59:48):
And the tapping. Right?
Oh, I gotta get the kid from Cody.
Yeah.
So. No. Great.
And I also got some work here.
Ted, talk on butterflies.
Oh. Air by Kinsley.
Monopoly. Compare and contrast. Monopoly.
And. Sorry.
Oh, you wrote about the Medal of Honor.
Oh, just amazing workthat was on the Google Drive.

(01:00:10):
I want to share that with you.
Oh, I can can you take this course?
Please do.
Oh, he's going to love it.
Let going do a little unboxing.
Anyone do your box. Let's do the.
Unboxing from Cricket press. Beautiful.
Let's see what we got here.
Got all this.

(01:00:32):
I'm going to unbox this from cricket.
I'm very excited to see what it is. So.

(01:00:52):
You got to get the crinkle one.
Crinkle crinkle crinkle crinkle crinkle.
Listen to the.
Sounds good.
Yeah. You could you you hit the dialog.
I'll check it out
here.
The plastic coming out of the box.

(01:01:15):
The covers coming off.
What is it?
Oh, that is gorgeous cricket press.
Oh, wait. Hold on. And then.
Oh, amazing.
That is beautiful. That looks really nice.
Thank you. Greg I really appreciate that.
Thank you. Cricket, I could I should.

(01:01:37):
Are you doing the the.
Oh yeah.
Not much better.
Forgot.
Yeah. Good little nails.
Not ready for.
Baggy.
Wasn't good? No.

(01:01:59):
All right.
Thank you for allowing me to do that.
Went on for another hour. Yeah, right.
For sure I think. Greg.
Awesome. Jenny.
Yes. Wonderful challenge.
Thank you so much.
Don't forget to check in with yourself.
What are you feeling?What do you. Need and what do you need?
How's your breath? Yeah, we.
Were going to say be a good friend.
One, two.
Three.
Be a good. Friend. Always and forever.

(01:02:24):
Yeah, that's a wrap.