May 21, 2025 • 46 mins
Pete and Bisq-it are bruised, blessed, and back with a vengeance—ready to unpack everything from post-party recovery to the fine art of dodging coworkers in a darkroom.
In this episode, we’re mixing business and pleasure (dangerously). What happens when your 9AM-to-5PM meets your 9PM-to-5AM alter ego? We’re talking LinkedIn connections from underground clubs / raves, awkward run-ins with colleagues at kink bars (yes, tails included for "good boys"), and some unsolicited “mentoring” via Grindr from higher-ups who really should know better. The gurls spill on surprise LinkedIn DMs from underground parties, navigating HR nightmares in harnesses, and how to keep your dignity when your colleague catches you mid-bump (not the dance kind). It’s corporate etiquette meets club culture—served with a salted rim and a side of sass.
Pete and Bisq-it dive deep into navigating the blurry lines between professionalism and pure unhinged chaos with their signature humor, honesty, and a whole lotta heart. Add in a wild tale involving Bacon, a jolly green giant man, and a public act of devotion that proves one can have the power of a Dyson but the bad boy influence of a Dirt Devil, and you’ve got the unfiltered, unhinged magic you’ve come to expect from your Feral Friends and co-hosts. It’s camp, it’s corporate, and it’s giving “please don’t talk to me about quarterly reviews while I’m wearing leather.”
TL;DR: If you’ve ever locked eyes with a coworker while mid-twerk or matched with your manager on a hookup app—this one’s for you. It may just inspire you to update your HR training and your Hinge profile.
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I got something now to get the people on the floor.
All right, hello to all our new and returning feral friends to
fair relationship. I'm Pete and.
I'm Biscuit. Biscuit, how the fuck are you
doing? You know, I dreaded this
(00:22):
question today, Honey, you mightbe able to hear it in Biscuits
voice. She's a little busted.
She's still recovering. You know, recovery does get
longer with age. It does?
Yeah. And we, we went through it.
We sure did. We sure did.
And you know what? I tried not to.
And I dragged you. Write the hell down with me.
(00:44):
I was not about to let that happen.
If there's something about Pete once, once we're in it, I'm
sold. Yeah, the only way out is
through, right? But no, it was quite the
weekend. We were out and about
celebrating. And you know what?
This weekend we've got yet another big weekend ahead.
A holiday weekend. Sure do.
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Which means shit's going to be blowing up motherfucker up.
Everybody's going to be out and about.
Everybody's going to be doing their things.
People are going to be looking. Yeah, you know what I mean.
Sun's out. Hopefully.
Please. Yes, I want to see them.
Nice. Let's see what you were doing
over the holidays. I want to see them.
Squats at work, honey. Let's see those body Oddy,
Oddy's and all of the above. All of the above.
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So I'm very excited for that. I'm also excited for today's
topic. Me too.
Because this is something that Ifeel we all struggle with.
We walk the tightrope. We do, We do.
It's the balance. It's all about balance.
It is and bitch, I've got no balance.
My equilibrium is fucked. Like just straight fucked.
Like I could never have done gymnastics that that beam mother
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fucker. No, just my nuts would have been
busted. Well, even what, a couple
Sundays ago we were being littlesporty gaze, right?
Yeah, girl, when I couldn't evenlike I went to run for it and a
scooby-doo moment happened. I like slipped out from
underneath myself. Oh my gosh.
But. And what I'm really excited for
as well as we're getting ready to put our good pal Ferrell on
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Ferrell Fawcett. Oh yes, I was like who the fuck
is that? Yes, let's get this bitch
boiling. Because we have things to talk
about. Oh.
Don't we? Let's buckle up, because it's
it's story time for bacon. Can't wait, can't wait.
All right, let's go. OK, Biscuit, so.
(02:34):
This is. I feel like we just ripped the
Band-Aid off. I think we do it.
So we've talked about it before.My favorite underpass monster
troll. I was like, bitch, is there a
tornado you hide under the underpass?
My favorite underpass troll monster yes is bacon.
(02:56):
Bacon. I mean, what a savage little
fucker. That's interesting.
He's a man of many words and no words at the same time.
No, my girl, my favorite thing is when run into some some
people that we all know sociallyout and about and they'll come
up to me and they're like Bacon has said more words tonight than
I've ever heard him speak ever. We'll see too.
(03:19):
So in this occasion, let's set the scene.
First of all I wanna say we had a little pregame prior to going
out and. Biscuit, our host.
Yes, I was happy to. Yes, and Biscuit arrived and
Biscuit was laying. He had some quick one liners and
I was like, I'm proud of you girl.
Yeah, bacon. Bacon had some 1 liners.
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That's who. Correct.
Bacon had some one liners. Yes, she was just laying thick
on me. See, I told you my brain was.
Busting, yes, recovery is still in process.
It's not fake. But you know, he absolutely had
all these. I was like, where is this
coming? From I don't know, she was like
practicing all weekend. Like in the mirror, ready to go.
Oh. My God.
But then. Yes.
But so then we brought someone new out with us and there was
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like the little dynamic of that,but we were just like bopping
around, having a good little time.
And then we get to our first destination and it's just, you
know, the feral friends. We are just ready to go.
Oh yes, the girlies were ready to twirl.
The feralness was in the air. Yes, and and this was a tea
dance. Yes.
And we've talked about tea dances in the past.
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I love them because it's a slightly earlier start.
So you're like, oh, great, you can get some good runway feel
good early. Absolutely.
The funny thing too, though, is not all of our friends started
early on their journeys. Meanwhile, I was like, oh, I
took this before we left. Sweet Christ.
Meanwhile, I think Bacon was starting it pretty soon there
though. Yes, Bacon was ready, ready to
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roll. He.
Was ready to rumble and yes. Rock and rock and robots.
You know what I mean? I.
Do and so, yes, the first destination.
Fantabulous. Marvelous.
No, no. But it was definitely the warm
up. It was the warm up and what I
love about this too is this is where you know, your inability
to say no really came through and I love you for it.
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No, but do I love myself for it?Yes, yes, absolutely.
Well, because I had something coming, you know, the Monday
morning and so I was like, hey, I'm going to draw the line in
the sand. That's that's what's going to
happen. That's what I need to do.
That's what's best for me. And that's just not what
happened, you know, but transparently, I think that
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worked out best because I was then not like anxious about what
I had Monday morning. So it's just like I just went
right into. It I love that.
See the It's the magic of drugs.The magic of being.
Feral. Yeah.
Release your inhibitions. You know, it's just, it was
magic. It was magic.
And watching you go through thatjourney was awesome.
I had the best time. And then once we got to our
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final destination, Bacon was just having the time of her
life, right? We are at one point, just like,
you know, Bacon's a shorter individual.
And so all of a sudden I look over and Bacon's with a
substantially taller person thanhim, and all of a sudden this
person is down on his knees justgoing to town on Bacon.
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Girl. All right, So let me tell you
from my perspective, because I didn't see the tall gentleman at
all. Like I didn't see him before he
went full submarine submerged. That's submarine Periscope up
like honey, I had no idea. And then all of a sudden, like,
everybody's like, hey, Oh my God, do you see bacon?
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Do you see bacon? What's going on?
And I was like, what? Is he OK?
Like bitch, is he all right? And then I look over and the
crowd slightly parts. It's a little Moses moment,
right? And all of a sudden I see some
like a jackhammer on the on Bacon's Dick, just sucking it
like it's a God damn like lollipop or.
(06:54):
Candy cane, correct, honey. That's one in existence.
The yeah, that Dyson was Dyson all on.
Like new technology right there.Yeah, just sucking away. 100%.
Jesus Christ, was that quite thething?
And then he stood up, and then Iwas like, whoa, what a
mountainous man like. Jolly Green Giant Jesus.
Mary and Joseph. He seems lovely, Yeah.
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And yeah, it was just a very, very surprising.
Yeah, and that just the entire night.
I I just, I really have no notes.
Like it was just was fun. Oh, it was great, and I think
Bacon had a good time too, I think.
Bacon had a lovely time. I I did as well and I brought
somebody home. It was great.
My favorite part was at one point, like I know Bacon really
well. So I was, he was telling me a
story and I couldn't hear him. We've all know my hearing is
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trash, so I. Wear your earplugs, people.
Wear them, wear them. And so I, he's like telling me a
story and I'm hearing like, every second or third word.
So I know what he's talking about.
Yeah. But the person I was dancing
with at the time looks at me andis like, how the fuck did you
know what he was talking about? How do you know anything that
was just said? And I go, he goes, do you have
your own, like, language? I go maybe, yeah.
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Ferrell. It's yes, it's yes, yes.
The Ferrell language we talked about like ASL, I'm thinking
like a full Helen Keller moment,like a hand tapping wah wah
moment with the tutor. Yes, yes, yes.
Beautiful. Love it.
Let's take her off and let's getto to the topic that we're
excited. Now that she's screaming, might
as well. Might as well.
We love a screamer. I'll get her off.
(08:25):
All right, let's go. All right, Biscuit, so let's
let's just dive right in. Yes, head first like Tom Daley.
Oh, Tommy. Oh, why did you do that to me?
I know now I'm distracted. With his little knitting
needles. Oh my God.
And those cum gutters, yes, correct.
I would love to see what's underneath that.
(08:46):
Speedo the same. Jesus, I love that you don't.
He's probably a top. Probably which which is fine.
Perfect. No notes.
So Tommy, if you're listening, Tommy, can you hear me?
Please come join the podcast. Oh my gosh, please hop on.
I don't know if I'd be able to speak.
Anyways, we're going to dive in.We're going to dive into it.
We're going to dive into it and it will start with a little a
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little story. So I this is this topic was
actually inspired by one of our friends who had reached out
recently about an interesting encounter he had on LinkedIn of
all places. Thought you were going to say
grinder. I know, right?
No surprise, surprise. So he received a message from
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somebody on LinkedIn that that was like asking to connect right
one in a network. Great.
Well, the message included a note saying, Hey, I saw you at
this Corgi Kennel underground bar event, Cracky Jacky Night.
And you know, we work in the same industry.
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And so I thought it would be great.
Let's connect. And he rightly was was a little
was nervous. Oh yeah, I would be too.
I would be too. So he notified all of us and
then was just like, hey, this could be a really good topic.
And I'm like, bitch, you are certainly the motherfucking
right. Correct.
Because we've all been there where it's like you run into
somebody out and about you happen to work with or you're in
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the same industry. Yeah.
And that could potentially be compromising.
So like, what do you do? Right.
No, I think that's a good point.I was just telling you, like
when we were out and about and the stories we were just talking
about, I ran into somebody that I work with out and about at the
tea dance. And it was one of those said
hello. We passed each other and then
never saw them again, never saw me again, which I was like.
(10:35):
Whether that was by design or coincidence, I don't really
mind. It was divine influence, correct
the cosmos. Correct.
But yeah, you bring up a good point.
Like what? What does one do?
What does? One do and I think I, I don't
think there's a silver bullet answer for this, no.
So. Is there ever?
No, I just don't like bullets. Why is it always violent?
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Shoot loads, not guns, biscuits.What is, what is maybe what is
the cure? You know, let's make me think
about that. I know it's more positive, but I
think let's let's dive into thatbecause I feel that the
different, the settings, the time, the activities all signal
different behaviors or react. So, so let's dive in.
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So like, what would you say is abest practice?
So you're just out at a regular bar, you're running it and just
happen to run it into a colleague.
What are your thoughts? I think for me, what is going
through my head is how fucked upam I in this moment?
You know what I mean? Yes, that is that is number one,
right? Because if, if it's Thursday,
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well, maybe Thursday's not great.
A great example because sometimes Thursday's can be a
little crazy Little. Thirsty in more ways than one.
Correct. But I'm thinking like, OK, just
like a happy hour, for example, out at a bar and and I were to
run into a colleague there. I would be very comfortable
having a whole whole last conversation, having a good
little time, a little Kiki, if you will, with said colleague or
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colleagues. Right now if it's a Saturday
night it's late and maybe it's the same bar setting but I have
been over served it's. Always somebody else's fault.
It's always. Somebody else's fault.
I would be hesitant to have thatsame interaction.
Yes, you know what I mean. I feel like that's totally fair
because I have no control. I would just say, especially if
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I've been drinking, I'm like, I feel that.
Yeah, the filters, the filters are gone.
Yep, the Britta is off. It's busted.
Yeah, she's done. That water is it's filthy.
Filthy. So I, I concur, I feel like you
know, you, especially at a bar scene that tends to be a little
bit more casual, so long as you're not fucked up like, and
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your eyes cross or like you literally bump into somebody,
like just fucking say hello. Yep, it's.
Just common courtesy. Agreed.
We're all humans. Absolutely.
We all just there for a little drinky poo A.
Little drinky poo, have a littlesocial time.
Yeah, just cheers and on your way.
But I do think like that is verysetting and fucked up dependent.
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Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes. Well, let's dive into that.
So like if you're out at say, like I know we frequent the gay
bars. You could even maybe you go to a
sports bar, who knows, Go crazy.Yeah, go wild.
And you run into somebody you know, does the bar environment,
like if it were a gay bar versusa sports bar versus just like if
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you were just out on a patio, heavy margaritas.
Oh yeah. Like to to the.
Do those environments change your behaviors?
That's a good, that's a really good question.
I feel like in the modern day world that we're in now less, I
don't feel like it makes that much of a difference.
Yeah, right. I do think it depends on the gay
bar, right? Because, you know, there's the
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there's the occasional gay bar that might have like a a dark
room in the back, so to speak. Right.
Yeah. So like there might be different
vibes for different locations. Yeah, I mean, I know there I've
been to a bar where they will sometimes serve cocktails in a
doggy dish. Oh.
Yes. So you can enjoy your little
puppy cocktail. I probably would not want to run
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into a Co worker there. You know what, actually,
Biscuit? You bring up a good point,
though, because now I'm sitting here and I'm thinking I also
wouldn't want to intrude if I ran into a colleague of mine out
having margaritas on a patio. Yes, with somebody.
So, so funny. Right after I had said that and
then you started talking, my mind immediately, like, jumped
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to Parker Posey's character sitting, which, yes,
interrupted. Yeah.
Oh my God. She's like, uh huh.
Yeah. Baby shower.
Sure, sure. OK.
Uh huh. Bye.
You know the. Awkward silence.
Amazing. I was also psych WI.
Was also totally waiting for that to be like some secret
(15:00):
thing. Where big yes, unveiling yes
like. The woman that the the people
that she was calling back home were like had Intel and we're
going to like blow it up somehow.
No be like did you know who I ran into And her Lorazepam?
Correct. Yeah.
No, it wasn't though. No, anyway, but I agree on, I
think it's one of those things like back to the patio.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. And.
Yes, with my little like salted rim Margarita.
I know. Sounds so good.
We love a good rim job. And you know, we do though.
Yes, we do. God, yes.
And but I think it's one of those things like especially if
you're like walking past a tableand like, oh, actually perfect
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example. Yeah, please.
I was actually, I just caught upwith a funneling off a former
colleague last night for dinner just to catchable catch up.
And as we're sitting there, not even 10 minutes in and seated
right next to us, like walked over to the table and sat right
next to us is one of her good friends who she had just been to
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like a Derby party with so not too long ago.
But then it was awkward because then her code dinner date was
like quite late. And so there was like this
awkward like, oh, do we all now talk like sounds a little weird.
It was a little it was a little just, but just a little like we
made it work. We made sure.
But you know, like if the waiter's like walking past and
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you like see or walking past andbringing a colleague past it
like did you see the like you say, Oh, hey, great to see you
enjoy your meal. Correct on your.
Way doesn't need to be a whole thing.
No, this is no, no, no, no. No.
Well, because the other thing that I'm thinking now too is
like, OK, well, let's just say it was like a date or something,
right? And then the colleague, I'm sure
is going to bring it up later there with, you know, and then
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it just like goes into somethingthat it doesn't need to be.
Yeah, I'm like, you don't need to know about my third, Correct.
Sorry. This is my boy, my pup, you
know, like, Can you imagine? No.
Yes, I'm his. I'm his Sir, his master.
You can his Pongo. I'm just, I'm thinking of this
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interaction like I would have atwork or you would have.
Like a color color on correct? Correct.
Maybe he's got even a little leash on.
Wow, we are painting the picture.
Yes, picture it. Sicily.
Sicily. But I think, yeah, I think it's
dependent on the location, right?
Yes. And so I do think that in in my
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brain and how I would definitelytake the situation as if we're
in like a, let's just say like asex positive environment.
Yeah, right. Let's could I maybe throw out a
word? Yeah.
CD. Yeah, say it again.
Slower CD. But I feel like in my mind with
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something like that, like it's like a, it's like a silent code.
Yes. You know, because I'm like,
listen, you might be a Co worker, but I don't give a shit
what you do like outside of work.
No, no, you know what I mean? I don't care.
And I would hope that you also don't care what I'm doing right
now. I'm not going to like go out of
my way to like try and have a whole last conversation with you
in that type of environment. That is a tip of the hat.
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Cool. I'll acknowledge you at a
distance and that's that. Yes, good day, Sir.
And that's it. That is.
It Yep. Yes, agree, because Lord knows
what's gonna happen. I know.
And that's like, I'm just worst case scenario.
Then I start, you know, paintinga picture of my head.
I'm like, Oh my gosh. But if one thing leads to
another and then I'm next to this person, this thing's
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happened, and then I see him in the office.
Girl. And then one of my fears is like
when I'm a cracky Jackie, sure. And I'm out there and I'm just
like rolling tits. Yeah, my eyes rolling, rolling,
rolling tits are real. I don't know.
That was really bad. I'll work.
I'll workshop it. Yes.
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And I've, I've gone my eyes back, my head, I've gone full
God Mode, yeah, you know, and now I'm in another planet.
And then I come to and I'm making out with a former Co
worker or. Something like that, right.
No, no, no, absolutely, absolutely not.
I've been out and about and I'vejust like run into like some
junior colleagues too. Yeah.
And it's even one of those things that like, OK, sure, it's
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like a Sunday fun day, right? But it's still, there's still
just the element of like, well, one, I might feel like a little
bit old. And then this is also just kind
of strange because you're just ajunior member on the team, you
know what I mean? And so it's like, I will happily
have a conversation with you. But like that, just as that's
that, that's all that needs to be.
Well, so I was once at Side Quest, I was once at a horse
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meat disco in New York, OK and at the Knockdown Centre.
It was a lovely time. Funnily enough, I ended up like
dancing like back-to-back with Bowen Yang.
Love that. It was super fun and I I know I
was like, oh, Bowen, I didn't, but I'm all right.
I also sidequest of the sidequest.
I also believe celebrities are human, are human beings 100%.
They deserve their own time. I was not going to like go up
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and be like, I love your work, like thank you forever.
You know, I wasn't going to do that.
Thank. You for your service.
Yeah, but a lot of people did and I was just like, so it was
just great. Bowen, thanks for the tango and
coming back to Sidequest, one the please.
While I was there, one of my friends had a Co worker who was
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also there. Now they didn't work on the same
teams, but they worked in the same company.
OK. One was my friend was a little
bit more senior and I could tellthere was chemistry there.
And let's just say things got spicy.
OK, OK, all of a sudden I'm intothis, OK.
And like, they may have just gone and masqueraded off to the
(20:43):
darkroom and I saw hands up against the wall, honey, they
were putting those buns to work,glazing those honey buns.
I mean, it looks like it was great time.
So like is there anything more to that?
Like. There hasn't.
They both still work at the samecompany.
I believe they're both in relationships now.
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I don't think either of them were at the time.
I think it's just like a fun little gathering.
We'll get together. Yeah.
Okay, but then I feel like it opens up another box of
chocolates, if you will, right. So I think being able to be
mature enough to do that exactlyand be able to like, okay, draw
the line in the sand that like, yes, we are familiar with one
(21:25):
another. I think it would have been
different if there was like if they worked on the same team.
Places are so big out there, like if you have no real
affiliation with one another, like if it's at the moment and
things are happening, there's chemistry.
Like do it and be an adult aboutit.
Yes, I agree. I feel like it's also best
practice to maybe discuss like, hey, what?
It's kind of the biggest rules apply, correct?
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What happens here stays here. Yep, that's it.
We can both be adults, have fun and and leave.
Just like I don't want to be talking about work when I'm on
the dance floor, right? Great point.
So let's just maybe not talk about the dance floor when we're
at work. Great point.
I that just hit me. Yep.
No, I that's actually stroke of genius because I was, this
(22:06):
wasn't too long ago. It was just out and about and it
was for someone's birthday and it was just like a day drinking
thing. Oh yeah.
And there was this person that just like cornered me and was
wanting to talk to me about workand asked to like, look at, you
know, cover letter, you know, experience and all these things.
And I'm sitting there and I'm like trying to be nice, polite.
Polite. Pete Correct.
Polite Pete Yes. But I was like, oh this is
(22:28):
really killing my vibe. Yeah, honey, no.
And life is all about the vibes.Like honey, we got to ride them.
Yes, we do a Dick. You know, but no, I, I agree.
I think that's, I think that's agood, I think that's a good
little thing. I'm gonna write that down.
No, I like that. Make a motivational poster out
of it, like with a hanging cat. You know, Hang in there.
But I think that the crossing over that work to Ferrell is a
(22:51):
slippery slope, just as long as you draw the lines in the sand
on what you're comfortable with,but also what like the other
person would be comfortable withif you find yourself in the
situation, like your friend at ahorse meat disco, Right?
Like just knowing how to handle it.
Yeah. I think the other thing that's
funny and I'm curious if this has ever happened to you is
like, OK, so instead of the in person of it all.
(23:14):
Sure. What if you are on a couple
little hookup apps and you happen to either anonymously or
non anonymously, Right. Yeah, there we go.
That was break. That was crap.
Look who it is. And it happens to be a
colleague. Yeah.
You know what I mean? Yeah.
Is it the same? Is it different?
(23:34):
What do you think I Let's talk about it.
Oh. Yes, yes.
Yes, let's let's unbutton this baby.
Baby. That sounded a little weird.
Let's yeah, let's unzip these jeans.
How about that Better? Better, better.
Let's get those ants in those pants.
Lord help me in a bump. So I look, I think the hook up
(23:58):
app environment, if there's if they're similar to kind of like
the dance floor experience, likeif, if there's not going to be a
very clear agreement, like if ithasn't been spoken about before
in the past, we're all on there for the same reason.
Correct, Like would you, would you do you know, be feral unto
(24:19):
others as you would like to be feraled?
Right, Wow, right. It's gavel like dung.
I had the gone yes, I because look, if we're all out trying to
have a good time, Yep, you're clearly they're doing the same
thing. So why the fuck you would want
to be like called out or like ormessaged inappropriately or
(24:42):
whatever? So.
Don't like, don't. Don't screenshot it.
Don't any of that shit. No, don't be a fucker.
No, don't be a fucker. No, don't be.
Don't be a fucker. I mean, how?
How about what do you, I don't know, what do you think?
Yeah, I feel like I, I think forme personally, I would just
probably side a little bit more on the side of caution with it
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being on like an app or an online space.
I think just, I think that's just where my brain goes to just
be a little bit more cautious. Whereas on the dance floor, hey,
in the moment things happen, right?
Like that you were talking abouthorse meat disco.
I think that is a phenomenal example that hey, vibes are
vibing. Yeah, things are happening.
All of a sudden one thing leads to another.
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And I think that's fine because maybe you've established
whatever that is. I feel like online, I'm just a
little bit more hesitant becauseit's like to your point, you
could screenshot or you could dosomething, you know what I mean?
And I'm not saying that anybody like that.
That would be worst case scenario obviously.
Yeah, I think it's in a way it'salmost like managed
expectations. Yes, right.
(25:47):
Like it is, it is a bucket of ice cold water being dumped on
you when you get hit up by somebody you work with on like a
hookup ad. Yeah, You know, whereas if if
you're out at a seedy environment, Yep.
And you run into somebody, you're like, well, we're all
going to agree that this stays. Here.
Correct. Yep.
Yeah, that's a good way of putting it.
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I mean, unless it happens to be like, you know, a little glory
hole in the bathroom at the office, then, you know, there's
just no going back. I mean, that's just like the
truck stop off of that off of 80.
You know, maybe we'll see Jonah there.
Oh my God. Right, Jonah, we left.
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Pumping the gas. Oh.
My God, that's not all he's pumping.
Yeah, correct. And we love him for it.
My. God stop, that was so funny.
I'm dead, I'm dead. So, but yeah, I will say
actually there have been times where I've had like people like
whether it was like on Tinder orsomething, maybe like not
necessarily like a hookup app, but something where that might
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be a little bit more social, right.
And then that there would be kind of be almost like it could
be a lighter introduction to just say like, oh, hey, great to
see you on here. And then if somebody replies it
positively, like, oh, hey, yeah,how have you been trying to
continue the conversation? Yeah, rather than just say Yep,
like dismissed like. Let's get.
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I cannot believe I've forgotten this story.
I have a story on this topic. I can't believe it's just not
coming. It's all coming back.
It's OK. Back to me now I.
Not too terribly long ago, I hadsomeone more senior than me very
much express an interest. And it was very clear.
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And I to be honest, it just mademe a little uncomfortable.
Yeah. Because I wasn't sure how to
handle it. And it was one of those things
that I was like new and junior and I just didn't know.
I didn't know what the fuck to do.
Oh my God. And so it was one of those
things that like, I probably should have like sidelined it a
little bit, but I was new and you know what I mean?
So I feel like I almost like needed to continue the
(28:00):
conversation totally. It always, I mean, it ended up
in a fine place, but then it waslike, then I would, you know, we
would end up traveling for work to the same places and then it
would be like then it would be amessage on grinder and it would
be, you know what I mean? So it just like one thing, all
these things, nothing ever happened, right?
Because I was like, I kept it like terms length, distance away
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totally. But that was just a.
Well, in a way that's like that person taking advantage of power
dynamics, right? And like, I mean, I know for my
corporate gig, this is sometimesgirlies.
This is not all she does. She she hustles correct And in
that we have we do annual training that we have to do for
(28:44):
like the sexual harassment workplace conduct all of that.
And this is one thing that absolutely has to be addressed
every year because it's like, you know, people are worried
about retaliation and always, but people should also just we
should be able to be comfortableat work making your work
environment uncomfortable. Just absolutely unacceptable in
every different form. Absolutely agreed.
(29:05):
Absolutely agreed. So it was just one of those and
I was like, ooh, OK, don't love this, but also unsure what to
do. Yeah, you know what I mean.
And it eventually, just like after time, like played itself
out and everything was fine. And that's, you know what I
mean. I do.
Let's I'm glad it worked out butlike I'm sorry went through that
I. Know, but that was like it kind
of goes back to like then I how I feel with like if I run into a
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junior member out right because so then for me, I don't want to
be that person or even come remotely come across in that way
yeah. So 100% now kind of not like a
sexual coming on type of case, but related.
So I'm going to be a tangent here, sure.
Yeah, yeah. And because I have been the more
senior person that's run into more junior people while being
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out and about. This specifically was at a
festival. So I was like out.
Concerts it was daytime beautiful wonderful time and my
gay ass rolling tits I know who's she rolling tits wearing a
metal harness like I'm like I'm.Cute.
Great. I am feeling my oats.
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Meanwhile, my pupils are saucersand like, I look like a cartoon
Mickey Mouse. And I'm just like, this is Chris
walking through the crowd carrying multiple waters for me
and my friends. Yes, what boy?
And then they're like, Oh my gosh, biscuit.
And I was like. No, no heart into stomach, Yeah.
(30:32):
Yeah. Drops all waters.
Oh my God. And I was like, oh, hey, girls.
Like. And then I was like no, no, no,
hi, guys. Hey, hey, hey.
How are you? Yes, pleasure to see you this
fine day, you know, And so we made it quick.
I was like, oh, I'm so sorry. Obviously I'm carrying these
(30:53):
things. I've got to get back to my
friends because enjoy, have a great day.
And then I was like, Oh my sweetbaby Jesus, like am I?
I'm never going to hear the end of this.
Yep. Never did anything ever come of
it? No, they were pretty cool.
Yeah, See, but and that's, that's best case scenario,
right? Like it's a, hey, it's a brief
interaction that you're having in the crowd.
Yeah, absolutely. I've found myself similar, like,
at like a rave situation, right?So like a massive venue where
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everybody's doing their things and whatnot.
It's not necessarily like a sexual interaction, but it's
just, you know, everybody's vibing in their own way.
And then it's like we're walkingto the bathroom and I run into a
colleague or a junior colleague,and it's just a, hey, how you
doing? Yeah.
And then I'm gonna go to the bathroom and then go back to my
friends. Yep.
Well that's the thing. And I will say, when being out
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and about, I have definitely used the bathroom excuse just as
a way to like hit the eject button.
Absolutely. Oh Yep, please, sorry, Nope,
gotta go, gotta go pee. Well, Speaking of that, like
eject button, but also like, OK,you're there with your friends,
maybe we need to pivot to a different location.
Yes. Well, you know what?
And I think that is actually like a really great best
practice. So yes, that's actually a nice
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little Segway. Oh, look at you, Pete.
Work Diva. Because I, I couldn't agree
more. Look, I think that if we find
ourselves in an uncomfortable situation, you know, whether
that is like, I don't know, running into a colleague or
something or something else altogether, always rely on your
friends. Your friends are there.
They would want the same from you.
And yeah, yeah. So lean in, say, hey, we need an
(32:21):
exit strategy. Yep.
You know, and worst case, like, let's say it's even a small
venue, there's probably another place you could go if you're
really that uncomfortable, right?
So you you can be the master of your own destiny.
Well, I was just going to say itactually reminds me of a
situation. I was with Bacon at a pretty
small venue and it wasn't like asituation where we could move to
the, the complete opposite side and not be around, you know,
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like some people that we didn't really particularly want to be
around there, like just knowing them professionally and whatnot.
And so it was just something as simple as like shifting how we
were all standing as a group, right?
To like, all right, now we're putting our backs to like, you
know what I mean? To not be, to make it very clear
with the body language that like, we're not opening up this
conversation. You were communicating without
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communicating, correct? I love that Helen Keller sign
language coming. Through again.
So proud, So proud. You're an inspiration head.
But no, I I love that. I think that is a fantastic best
practice. I mean, I think another one,
though, perhaps the plan for theevening, the location you're
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going to planning out your journey.
Yeah. And perhaps what what might be
your Ave. to relieve yourself ofthe weight, the gravity of the
Earth? Yes.
So that's great. Just your regular.
Edgar Allan Hoe over here. Oh, stop it right now, stop it
(33:46):
right now. I love it.
But I think like you bring up a good point that it's like, hey,
at the end of the day, you know,we've got other things that we
have to do. So what are we going to do to
plan accordingly so that we can enjoy, you know, like like we
recently had, right? Like so it's like, hey, we're
out for a tea dance on a Sunday.So maybe it's like, hey, I need
to make sure I either don't do something, maybe Friday or
Saturday night or maybe Sunday I'm going to get a really fat
(34:09):
nap in. Yeah, you know, big old fatty,
Yeah. So maybe I'm going to like bank
the sleep while I can to just know the fact that I'm going to
be a little bit low coming on that night.
Totally. So I very much agree.
I think this is also why people actually burn out of raving
early. Like, like the people that like,
just go hard in their 20s because like when I was in my
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20s, when I was like, oh, y'all a little biscuit when those
biscuits were just rising, right?
She was learning the feral ways.And honey, I could go out until
the wee hours and get up and go to work.
No problem. No problem.
No problem, no problem. Now, Jesus Christ, I'm going to
need like a stretcher. You have to defibrillate me.
Yeah. So no, you have to plan.
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And I think that the rest component is so spot on, like
plan it out, get it, get, you know, at least I, I always aim
for like ideally 7-8, but that doesn't always happen.
I know. Well, she's old.
Honey, good for you. Into it like in in total I said
aim for it doesn't mean I get. It good.
OK. A goal.
(35:12):
A goal, yeah. But you're right, like the the
nap thing, because if you're going to like steal from the
evening sleeping hours, just maybe sprinkle a little earlier
in the day. Correct.
Yeah, but they got the sleep mass.
I am a big component of her. You are.
And girl, you got me hooked on it.
So I've got one at home. It's nice and like weighted
cooling. Yeah, I'm luxury.
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I'm telling you, when we go on our vacation the summer, yes,
trust and believe that that willbe how I sleep.
Yes, I girl, I do not need like a a Lion King sunrise waking me
up. Wow, no.
That's when we'll be getting home.
I'm waking up in somebody else'sbed.
Correct, exactly. The other thing that I think is
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best practice is like knowing the limits for yourself for the
night too, right? So if you have something that
you need to do the next day, whether it be work, whether it
be we were just talking a littlebit ago, like if you're hosting
something the next day, like knowing the limits that you can
push yourself in that night to know whatever your
responsibilities are later that you can still fulfill.
Yes, we're all yeah. Was that all one bro?
(36:16):
I was impressed. Just like an auctioneer.
Sweet baby Jesus, I so I totallyagree with that, and I think
this also goes to the idea of like planning for things because
like if you know you've got something in the morning, do all
the pre work now yes, like get ahead of it.
So that way you have as little to do that next day because you
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aren't going to have it in you. No correct.
So you know, just yes, get aheadof that shit.
I also think that it's importantthat if you know you've got
something that morning or eve orsomething important that you
just want to plan for, maybe think about the drug choices.
Sure, the night before because some after effects of drugs
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might leave you in a less than excited state.
Poor spirits. Yes.
Yes. Yes, yes, yes.
Which just makes everything moredifficult, right?
So you're already in like a yourmental space is unwell, then
you're being expected to do whatever it might be.
It's just all so bad I. Just yes, I just think of the
like the hospital :) stickers, like how do, how do I feel?
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Oh my gosh. And I'm like negative.
Is that what the one all the wayto the left?
Yes, the absolute value of this motherfucker.
Correct. Totally.
It was. Oh my God.
I. Feel another one Biscuit, and
you are going to laugh at me forsaying this one is knowing when
to call it. I mean, bitch, that's how we
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started this episode. It's that is true.
This is definitely one of the doas I say not as I do situation.
Hey, we all need goals, right? You're so right.
You're so right. Holding this drive lots.
Of 2025 left. Well, yeah, so I think, you
(38:05):
know, we can regroup. End of year full.
Circle back, full circle back. We get 360 feedback.
Yeah, because I don't know when to call it like, like we started
the episode. I told myself, hey, this is
going to be my cut off. This is what's going to happen
and you know, one thing led to another and I think I was a
solid 4 hours later than what I planned.
(38:25):
But hey, don't regret it. You know, I will say I take some
fault and. You take some.
Yes, I will fill your cup this way.
I even biscuit. I was even in this specific
scenario, I was like, oh, you know, I don't have cash, right?
And you're like. I got.
Some. I got cash for you in this cash
(38:46):
only facility, like, and yeah, 'cause everyone else was like,
there were a few and I was like for some reason.
You get some cash, you get some.Cash.
You just Venmo me back. Yeah, it's got you babies.
Yeah, that was a miracle. I'd never have that much cash on
it. So that so that was the divine
intervention. Correct.
It was, it was. It was meant to be.
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Yeah. I'm not mad at it.
No, not mad at it. Was the patron St. of partying?
That's what I want to know with all the Catholics we've already
had on the show. One of us, no.
Correct. Like I'm going to look this up.
Welcome. Prepared for our next episode?
Perfect, please. But the spirit animal, I will
say, but part of the the fault I'm accepting for this is also
that at that pregame, I plotted out a whole agenda for you on
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like how you were still going toget 65 to six hours of sleep.
Sure did. And still be out and be a feral
little troll yourself. Sure did.
And I did end up with about 4:00to 5:00.
So not like, yeah, could have been way way way way way worse.
Yes. So in a way we gave you a plan.
It just wasn't, you didn't know you were going to act on it,
correct. So we'll just, we'll chalk that
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one up in that column. You know that doesn't count
against your, yeah, your performance improvement plan,
not. The pep your.
Party improvement plan. The better pimp.
Yeah, the better pimp, that's the better pimp.
But with that, yeah, part of that, Pip, is for any of us that
is, is planning like, yes, the drug journey of choice, you
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know? So perhaps don't do Becky before
a big morning meeting, correct, When you're going to be all
depressed. Just don't do that.
Don't do that. Well, I think the other like
side of the planning just on theme with the episode, right,
is like, OK, maybe you do run into somebody that you work with
or run into somebody that you know in some type of
professional setting. Like what what are you doing?
(40:32):
What are you going to do in thatsituation, right?
Like have you have just like a subconscious plan, Like, OK,
you're going to choose to ignoreor avoid, which is fine totally.
You're going to choose to have areally brief interaction, or
maybe you're going to decide to do otherwise.
I don't know. Yeah, I'll find that horse made
disco darkroom. Correct, correct.
Correct. No, I I totally agree it does.
(40:53):
Yeah, going in with a plan allows you to like when the
fight or flight kicks in, that you've got something you can
react to, something you can do alittle plan to.
So that way when your mind is full animal mode because.
Barrel animal feral feral like pumping everything.
Yes, yes it, but also rabbit, you're drooling so foaming at
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the mouth. Familiar.
Yeah. Maybe it's a different type of
foam? Right.
So I totally agree. I totally agree.
I'm sorry, kicking that visual out of my just.
Especially bacon. Like I'm imagining the Jolly
Green Giant. Oh my God, yeah.
What if he was a? Coworker that I would have
(41:39):
screamed. I would have lost all control of
my body. It would have been.
It would have been amazing. I would have just like, yeah,
you know, those toys that like they have like the strings in
them and you push the button andthey just like collapse to the
floor. That's what would have that's
that would have been me. Yes, Oh my.
God anyways. Well, I actually, and this is a
little tidbit I got from my therapist.
(42:00):
So thank you, girl, because I asI was like starting to get into
my more serious, fun feral days,which our regular listeners will
recall has been like only withinthe past several few years or
what have you really coming out of the post pandy when I was
like, girl needs to dance. And in that I was like, oh, am
(42:21):
I, am I overdoing it? What do I?
And so I wanted to do like a little check in.
And I encourage this like with if you are good with your
therapist and you're I first of all, I feel like people, if you,
if you can be comfortable or if you're comfortable being
uncomfortable. And I encourage that, yeah, to
like talk with your therapist about this.
They have to keep, you know, patient confidentiality and all
that. So so there's that.
(42:43):
But with that, I was, my concernwas that I was maybe overdoing
it. And she goes, well, Biscuit.
Yeah. Is it interfering with your
work? Is it hurting your
relationships? Is it impeding your life in a
way outside of making yourself tired?
And she's like, you absolutely need to get rest.
But like if you are damaging other things that are important
(43:03):
to you and the core of your lifeand your livelihood, that's
where it's a big issue Now I'm sure I'm one not I like that.
I know, right? I was.
She's like, do it safe. Do it like if you're going to
she's like, yes, I know you do recreational drugs, right?
Hey, like, thank you for sharingthat.
Let's just talk about dude, I'm smart.
Yep. So that way you don't ruin your
(43:25):
life because I'm here. She's like, I'm trying to keep
you pieced together. You fucking like Humpty Dumpty
over here. Just a cracked out cracky Jackie
cracky. Jackie Humpty Dumpty is a.
Cracky Jackie. Yes.
Ohh, that just rewrites. Yes, she sat on.
(43:45):
And she didn't sit on a wall, honey, she sat on a Dick.
And she's gonna have a great fall, you know what I mean?
She's up there so high. Talk about a come down, am I
right? Ohh.
Jesus Christ. But I, I really like that
because I think that as do we all like get in our heads about
certain things, right? And I think, you know, we've
talked about on some previous episodes too, where it's like,
(44:07):
OK, maybe you have like some relationships that change
because you've discovered this part of yourself that's really
like scratching this itch. But maybe some people that
you've been really close to likethat doesn't scratch their itch,
right? So then you're almost like
doubting yourself and like, wait, should I not be doing
this? Am I harming myself?
But I think that that's like a great little check in to have,
right? Totally, totally.
And I think too, it's the overdoing it or whatever is
(44:30):
gonna differ person to person. Sure.
Totally national, right? Right.
But I think it's important to like know what is important to
you and be able to therefore be able to track against that.
Because if you feel like you're falling behind on friendships,
relationships in on work, like that's the time to check in,
whether that's about being fairly low and partying or
really anything else in life. Exactly.
But yes, so find what fills yourcup.
(44:52):
Yeah. And and you might have multiple
cups and that's OK. Yeah, that's OK.
We we like to drink many, many of drinks.
We like all the. Cups we like.
Our. Margaritas, we like.
Our Gatorade we like. AB Cup we love.
And we all know we love our sugar free Red Bull.
And yes, honey works sis. I mean that'll help with the
(45:12):
recovery. Incorrect.
Getting up that morning pounded bitch.
Yes, that and your cold brew. Oh well, I think that's probably
a really great place. To I was just going to say I
think that like that's a really nice bow that you just put on
the episode just because I'm notgoing to lie, creative.
Genius. I well, I didn't realize how
crafty I was just tying it. All I'm not usually I'm the
crafty 1 here. Girl don't expect my presents
(45:33):
wrapped up at Christmas are fucked.
Like I have not coordinated, notmy skill set.
So just this is going to be the cutest, but you're going to get
girl. Hey, good to know, good to know.
But with that, from our fair relationship to yours, I'm Pete.
And I'm Biscuit. And remember.
Have fun, get fucked and get fair by girly Ibbs.
I got something bad.
I got something now to get the people on the floor.
All right, hello to all our new and returning feral friends to
fair relationship. I'm Pete and.
I'm Biscuit. Biscuit, how the fuck are you
doing? You know, I dreaded this
(00:22):
question today, Honey, you mightbe able to hear it in Biscuits
voice. She's a little busted.
She's still recovering. You know, recovery does get
longer with age. It does?
Yeah. And we, we went through it.
We sure did. We sure did.
And you know what? I tried not to.
And I dragged you. Write the hell down with me.
(00:44):
I was not about to let that happen.
If there's something about Pete once, once we're in it, I'm
sold. Yeah, the only way out is
through, right? But no, it was quite the
weekend. We were out and about
celebrating. And you know what?
This weekend we've got yet another big weekend ahead.
A holiday weekend. Sure do.
(01:05):
Which means shit's going to be blowing up motherfucker up.
Everybody's going to be out and about.
Everybody's going to be doing their things.
People are going to be looking. Yeah, you know what I mean.
Sun's out. Hopefully.
Please. Yes, I want to see them.
Nice. Let's see what you were doing
over the holidays. I want to see them.
Squats at work, honey. Let's see those body Oddy,
Oddy's and all of the above. All of the above.
(01:28):
So I'm very excited for that. I'm also excited for today's
topic. Me too.
Because this is something that Ifeel we all struggle with.
We walk the tightrope. We do, We do.
It's the balance. It's all about balance.
It is and bitch, I've got no balance.
My equilibrium is fucked. Like just straight fucked.
Like I could never have done gymnastics that that beam mother
(01:50):
fucker. No, just my nuts would have been
busted. Well, even what, a couple
Sundays ago we were being littlesporty gaze, right?
Yeah, girl, when I couldn't evenlike I went to run for it and a
scooby-doo moment happened. I like slipped out from
underneath myself. Oh my gosh.
But. And what I'm really excited for
as well as we're getting ready to put our good pal Ferrell on
(02:11):
Ferrell Fawcett. Oh yes, I was like who the fuck
is that? Yes, let's get this bitch
boiling. Because we have things to talk
about. Oh.
Don't we? Let's buckle up, because it's
it's story time for bacon. Can't wait, can't wait.
All right, let's go. OK, Biscuit, so.
(02:34):
This is. I feel like we just ripped the
Band-Aid off. I think we do it.
So we've talked about it before.My favorite underpass monster
troll. I was like, bitch, is there a
tornado you hide under the underpass?
My favorite underpass troll monster yes is bacon.
(02:56):
Bacon. I mean, what a savage little
fucker. That's interesting.
He's a man of many words and no words at the same time.
No, my girl, my favorite thing is when run into some some
people that we all know sociallyout and about and they'll come
up to me and they're like Bacon has said more words tonight than
I've ever heard him speak ever. We'll see too.
(03:19):
So in this occasion, let's set the scene.
First of all I wanna say we had a little pregame prior to going
out and. Biscuit, our host.
Yes, I was happy to. Yes, and Biscuit arrived and
Biscuit was laying. He had some quick one liners and
I was like, I'm proud of you girl.
Yeah, bacon. Bacon had some 1 liners.
(03:39):
That's who. Correct.
Bacon had some one liners. Yes, she was just laying thick
on me. See, I told you my brain was.
Busting, yes, recovery is still in process.
It's not fake. But you know, he absolutely had
all these. I was like, where is this
coming? From I don't know, she was like
practicing all weekend. Like in the mirror, ready to go.
Oh. My God.
But then. Yes.
But so then we brought someone new out with us and there was
(04:02):
like the little dynamic of that,but we were just like bopping
around, having a good little time.
And then we get to our first destination and it's just, you
know, the feral friends. We are just ready to go.
Oh yes, the girlies were ready to twirl.
The feralness was in the air. Yes, and and this was a tea
dance. Yes.
And we've talked about tea dances in the past.
(04:23):
I love them because it's a slightly earlier start.
So you're like, oh, great, you can get some good runway feel
good early. Absolutely.
The funny thing too, though, is not all of our friends started
early on their journeys. Meanwhile, I was like, oh, I
took this before we left. Sweet Christ.
Meanwhile, I think Bacon was starting it pretty soon there
though. Yes, Bacon was ready, ready to
(04:46):
roll. He.
Was ready to rumble and yes. Rock and rock and robots.
You know what I mean? I.
Do and so, yes, the first destination.
Fantabulous. Marvelous.
No, no. But it was definitely the warm
up. It was the warm up and what I
love about this too is this is where you know, your inability
to say no really came through and I love you for it.
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No, but do I love myself for it?Yes, yes, absolutely.
Well, because I had something coming, you know, the Monday
morning and so I was like, hey, I'm going to draw the line in
the sand. That's that's what's going to
happen. That's what I need to do.
That's what's best for me. And that's just not what
happened, you know, but transparently, I think that
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worked out best because I was then not like anxious about what
I had Monday morning. So it's just like I just went
right into. It I love that.
See the It's the magic of drugs.The magic of being.
Feral. Yeah.
Release your inhibitions. You know, it's just, it was
magic. It was magic.
And watching you go through thatjourney was awesome.
I had the best time. And then once we got to our
(05:51):
final destination, Bacon was just having the time of her
life, right? We are at one point, just like,
you know, Bacon's a shorter individual.
And so all of a sudden I look over and Bacon's with a
substantially taller person thanhim, and all of a sudden this
person is down on his knees justgoing to town on Bacon.
(06:13):
Girl. All right, So let me tell you
from my perspective, because I didn't see the tall gentleman at
all. Like I didn't see him before he
went full submarine submerged. That's submarine Periscope up
like honey, I had no idea. And then all of a sudden, like,
everybody's like, hey, Oh my God, do you see bacon?
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Do you see bacon? What's going on?
And I was like, what? Is he OK?
Like bitch, is he all right? And then I look over and the
crowd slightly parts. It's a little Moses moment,
right? And all of a sudden I see some
like a jackhammer on the on Bacon's Dick, just sucking it
like it's a God damn like lollipop or.
(06:54):
Candy cane, correct, honey. That's one in existence.
The yeah, that Dyson was Dyson all on.
Like new technology right there.Yeah, just sucking away. 100%.
Jesus Christ, was that quite thething?
And then he stood up, and then Iwas like, whoa, what a
mountainous man like. Jolly Green Giant Jesus.
Mary and Joseph. He seems lovely, Yeah.
(07:19):
And yeah, it was just a very, very surprising.
Yeah, and that just the entire night.
I I just, I really have no notes.
Like it was just was fun. Oh, it was great, and I think
Bacon had a good time too, I think.
Bacon had a lovely time. I I did as well and I brought
somebody home. It was great.
My favorite part was at one point, like I know Bacon really
well. So I was, he was telling me a
story and I couldn't hear him. We've all know my hearing is
(07:41):
trash, so I. Wear your earplugs, people.
Wear them, wear them. And so I, he's like telling me a
story and I'm hearing like, every second or third word.
So I know what he's talking about.
Yeah. But the person I was dancing
with at the time looks at me andis like, how the fuck did you
know what he was talking about? How do you know anything that
was just said? And I go, he goes, do you have
your own, like, language? I go maybe, yeah.
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Ferrell. It's yes, it's yes, yes.
The Ferrell language we talked about like ASL, I'm thinking
like a full Helen Keller moment,like a hand tapping wah wah
moment with the tutor. Yes, yes, yes.
Beautiful. Love it.
Let's take her off and let's getto to the topic that we're
excited. Now that she's screaming, might
as well. Might as well.
We love a screamer. I'll get her off.
(08:25):
All right, let's go. All right, Biscuit, so let's
let's just dive right in. Yes, head first like Tom Daley.
Oh, Tommy. Oh, why did you do that to me?
I know now I'm distracted. With his little knitting
needles. Oh my God.
And those cum gutters, yes, correct.
I would love to see what's underneath that.
(08:46):
Speedo the same. Jesus, I love that you don't.
He's probably a top. Probably which which is fine.
Perfect. No notes.
So Tommy, if you're listening, Tommy, can you hear me?
Please come join the podcast. Oh my gosh, please hop on.
I don't know if I'd be able to speak.
Anyways, we're going to dive in.We're going to dive into it.
We're going to dive into it and it will start with a little a
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little story. So I this is this topic was
actually inspired by one of our friends who had reached out
recently about an interesting encounter he had on LinkedIn of
all places. Thought you were going to say
grinder. I know, right?
No surprise, surprise. So he received a message from
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somebody on LinkedIn that that was like asking to connect right
one in a network. Great.
Well, the message included a note saying, Hey, I saw you at
this Corgi Kennel underground bar event, Cracky Jacky Night.
And you know, we work in the same industry.
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And so I thought it would be great.
Let's connect. And he rightly was was a little
was nervous. Oh yeah, I would be too.
I would be too. So he notified all of us and
then was just like, hey, this could be a really good topic.
And I'm like, bitch, you are certainly the motherfucking
right. Correct.
Because we've all been there where it's like you run into
somebody out and about you happen to work with or you're in
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the same industry. Yeah.
And that could potentially be compromising.
So like, what do you do? Right.
No, I think that's a good point.I was just telling you, like
when we were out and about and the stories we were just talking
about, I ran into somebody that I work with out and about at the
tea dance. And it was one of those said
hello. We passed each other and then
never saw them again, never saw me again, which I was like.
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Whether that was by design or coincidence, I don't really
mind. It was divine influence, correct
the cosmos. Correct.
But yeah, you bring up a good point.
Like what? What does one do?
What does? One do and I think I, I don't
think there's a silver bullet answer for this, no.
So. Is there ever?
No, I just don't like bullets. Why is it always violent?
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Shoot loads, not guns, biscuits.What is, what is maybe what is
the cure? You know, let's make me think
about that. I know it's more positive, but I
think let's let's dive into thatbecause I feel that the
different, the settings, the time, the activities all signal
different behaviors or react. So, so let's dive in.
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So like, what would you say is abest practice?
So you're just out at a regular bar, you're running it and just
happen to run it into a colleague.
What are your thoughts? I think for me, what is going
through my head is how fucked upam I in this moment?
You know what I mean? Yes, that is that is number one,
right? Because if, if it's Thursday,
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well, maybe Thursday's not great.
A great example because sometimes Thursday's can be a
little crazy Little. Thirsty in more ways than one.
Correct. But I'm thinking like, OK, just
like a happy hour, for example, out at a bar and and I were to
run into a colleague there. I would be very comfortable
having a whole whole last conversation, having a good
little time, a little Kiki, if you will, with said colleague or
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colleagues. Right now if it's a Saturday
night it's late and maybe it's the same bar setting but I have
been over served it's. Always somebody else's fault.
It's always. Somebody else's fault.
I would be hesitant to have thatsame interaction.
Yes, you know what I mean. I feel like that's totally fair
because I have no control. I would just say, especially if
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I've been drinking, I'm like, I feel that.
Yeah, the filters, the filters are gone.
Yep, the Britta is off. It's busted.
Yeah, she's done. That water is it's filthy.
Filthy. So I, I concur, I feel like you
know, you, especially at a bar scene that tends to be a little
bit more casual, so long as you're not fucked up like, and
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your eyes cross or like you literally bump into somebody,
like just fucking say hello. Yep, it's.
Just common courtesy. Agreed.
We're all humans. Absolutely.
We all just there for a little drinky poo A.
Little drinky poo, have a littlesocial time.
Yeah, just cheers and on your way.
But I do think like that is verysetting and fucked up dependent.
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Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes. Well, let's dive into that.
So like if you're out at say, like I know we frequent the gay
bars. You could even maybe you go to a
sports bar, who knows, Go crazy.Yeah, go wild.
And you run into somebody you know, does the bar environment,
like if it were a gay bar versusa sports bar versus just like if
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you were just out on a patio, heavy margaritas.
Oh yeah. Like to to the.
Do those environments change your behaviors?
That's a good, that's a really good question.
I feel like in the modern day world that we're in now less, I
don't feel like it makes that much of a difference.
Yeah, right. I do think it depends on the gay
bar, right? Because, you know, there's the
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there's the occasional gay bar that might have like a a dark
room in the back, so to speak. Right.
Yeah. So like there might be different
vibes for different locations. Yeah, I mean, I know there I've
been to a bar where they will sometimes serve cocktails in a
doggy dish. Oh.
Yes. So you can enjoy your little
puppy cocktail. I probably would not want to run
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into a Co worker there. You know what, actually,
Biscuit? You bring up a good point,
though, because now I'm sitting here and I'm thinking I also
wouldn't want to intrude if I ran into a colleague of mine out
having margaritas on a patio. Yes, with somebody.
So, so funny. Right after I had said that and
then you started talking, my mind immediately, like, jumped
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to Parker Posey's character sitting, which, yes,
interrupted. Yeah.
Oh my God. She's like, uh huh.
Yeah. Baby shower.
Sure, sure. OK.
Uh huh. Bye.
You know the. Awkward silence.
Amazing. I was also psych WI.
Was also totally waiting for that to be like some secret
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thing. Where big yes, unveiling yes
like. The woman that the the people
that she was calling back home were like had Intel and we're
going to like blow it up somehow.
No be like did you know who I ran into And her Lorazepam?
Correct. Yeah.
No, it wasn't though. No, anyway, but I agree on, I
think it's one of those things like back to the patio.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. And.
Yes, with my little like salted rim Margarita.
I know. Sounds so good.
We love a good rim job. And you know, we do though.
Yes, we do. God, yes.
And but I think it's one of those things like especially if
you're like walking past a tableand like, oh, actually perfect
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example. Yeah, please.
I was actually, I just caught upwith a funneling off a former
colleague last night for dinner just to catchable catch up.
And as we're sitting there, not even 10 minutes in and seated
right next to us, like walked over to the table and sat right
next to us is one of her good friends who she had just been to
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like a Derby party with so not too long ago.
But then it was awkward because then her code dinner date was
like quite late. And so there was like this
awkward like, oh, do we all now talk like sounds a little weird.
It was a little it was a little just, but just a little like we
made it work. We made sure.
But you know, like if the waiter's like walking past and
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you like see or walking past andbringing a colleague past it
like did you see the like you say, Oh, hey, great to see you
enjoy your meal. Correct on your.
Way doesn't need to be a whole thing.
No, this is no, no, no, no. No.
Well, because the other thing that I'm thinking now too is
like, OK, well, let's just say it was like a date or something,
right? And then the colleague, I'm sure
is going to bring it up later there with, you know, and then
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it just like goes into somethingthat it doesn't need to be.
Yeah, I'm like, you don't need to know about my third, Correct.
Sorry. This is my boy, my pup, you
know, like, Can you imagine? No.
Yes, I'm his. I'm his Sir, his master.
You can his Pongo. I'm just, I'm thinking of this
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interaction like I would have atwork or you would have.
Like a color color on correct? Correct.
Maybe he's got even a little leash on.
Wow, we are painting the picture.
Yes, picture it. Sicily.
Sicily. But I think, yeah, I think it's
dependent on the location, right?
Yes. And so I do think that in in my
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brain and how I would definitelytake the situation as if we're
in like a, let's just say like asex positive environment.
Yeah, right. Let's could I maybe throw out a
word? Yeah.
CD. Yeah, say it again.
Slower CD. But I feel like in my mind with
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something like that, like it's like a, it's like a silent code.
Yes. You know, because I'm like,
listen, you might be a Co worker, but I don't give a shit
what you do like outside of work.
No, no, you know what I mean? I don't care.
And I would hope that you also don't care what I'm doing right
now. I'm not going to like go out of
my way to like try and have a whole last conversation with you
in that type of environment. That is a tip of the hat.
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Cool. I'll acknowledge you at a
distance and that's that. Yes, good day, Sir.
And that's it. That is.
It Yep. Yes, agree, because Lord knows
what's gonna happen. I know.
And that's like, I'm just worst case scenario.
Then I start, you know, paintinga picture of my head.
I'm like, Oh my gosh. But if one thing leads to
another and then I'm next to this person, this thing's
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happened, and then I see him in the office.
Girl. And then one of my fears is like
when I'm a cracky Jackie, sure. And I'm out there and I'm just
like rolling tits. Yeah, my eyes rolling, rolling,
rolling tits are real. I don't know.
That was really bad. I'll work.
I'll workshop it. Yes.
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And I've, I've gone my eyes back, my head, I've gone full
God Mode, yeah, you know, and now I'm in another planet.
And then I come to and I'm making out with a former Co
worker or. Something like that, right.
No, no, no, absolutely, absolutely not.
I've been out and about and I'vejust like run into like some
junior colleagues too. Yeah.
And it's even one of those things that like, OK, sure, it's
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like a Sunday fun day, right? But it's still, there's still
just the element of like, well, one, I might feel like a little
bit old. And then this is also just kind
of strange because you're just ajunior member on the team, you
know what I mean? And so it's like, I will happily
have a conversation with you. But like that, just as that's
that, that's all that needs to be.
Well, so I was once at Side Quest, I was once at a horse
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meat disco in New York, OK and at the Knockdown Centre.
It was a lovely time. Funnily enough, I ended up like
dancing like back-to-back with Bowen Yang.
Love that. It was super fun and I I know I
was like, oh, Bowen, I didn't, but I'm all right.
I also sidequest of the sidequest.
I also believe celebrities are human, are human beings 100%.
They deserve their own time. I was not going to like go up
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and be like, I love your work, like thank you forever.
You know, I wasn't going to do that.
Thank. You for your service.
Yeah, but a lot of people did and I was just like, so it was
just great. Bowen, thanks for the tango and
coming back to Sidequest, one the please.
While I was there, one of my friends had a Co worker who was
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also there. Now they didn't work on the same
teams, but they worked in the same company.
OK. One was my friend was a little
bit more senior and I could tellthere was chemistry there.
And let's just say things got spicy.
OK, OK, all of a sudden I'm intothis, OK.
And like, they may have just gone and masqueraded off to the
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darkroom and I saw hands up against the wall, honey, they
were putting those buns to work,glazing those honey buns.
I mean, it looks like it was great time.
So like is there anything more to that?
Like. There hasn't.
They both still work at the samecompany.
I believe they're both in relationships now.
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I don't think either of them were at the time.
I think it's just like a fun little gathering.
We'll get together. Yeah.
Okay, but then I feel like it opens up another box of
chocolates, if you will, right. So I think being able to be
mature enough to do that exactlyand be able to like, okay, draw
the line in the sand that like, yes, we are familiar with one
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another. I think it would have been
different if there was like if they worked on the same team.
Places are so big out there, like if you have no real
affiliation with one another, like if it's at the moment and
things are happening, there's chemistry.
Like do it and be an adult aboutit.
Yes, I agree. I feel like it's also best
practice to maybe discuss like, hey, what?
It's kind of the biggest rules apply, correct?
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What happens here stays here. Yep, that's it.
We can both be adults, have fun and and leave.
Just like I don't want to be talking about work when I'm on
the dance floor, right? Great point.
So let's just maybe not talk about the dance floor when we're
at work. Great point.
I that just hit me. Yep.
No, I that's actually stroke of genius because I was, this
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wasn't too long ago. It was just out and about and it
was for someone's birthday and it was just like a day drinking
thing. Oh yeah.
And there was this person that just like cornered me and was
wanting to talk to me about workand asked to like, look at, you
know, cover letter, you know, experience and all these things.
And I'm sitting there and I'm like trying to be nice, polite.
Polite. Pete Correct.
Polite Pete Yes. But I was like, oh this is
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really killing my vibe. Yeah, honey, no.
And life is all about the vibes.Like honey, we got to ride them.
Yes, we do a Dick. You know, but no, I, I agree.
I think that's, I think that's agood, I think that's a good
little thing. I'm gonna write that down.
No, I like that. Make a motivational poster out
of it, like with a hanging cat. You know, Hang in there.
But I think that the crossing over that work to Ferrell is a
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slippery slope, just as long as you draw the lines in the sand
on what you're comfortable with,but also what like the other
person would be comfortable withif you find yourself in the
situation, like your friend at ahorse meat disco, Right?
Like just knowing how to handle it.
Yeah. I think the other thing that's
funny and I'm curious if this has ever happened to you is
like, OK, so instead of the in person of it all.
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Sure. What if you are on a couple
little hookup apps and you happen to either anonymously or
non anonymously, Right. Yeah, there we go.
That was break. That was crap.
Look who it is. And it happens to be a
colleague. Yeah.
You know what I mean? Yeah.
Is it the same? Is it different?
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What do you think I Let's talk about it.
Oh. Yes, yes.
Yes, let's let's unbutton this baby.
Baby. That sounded a little weird.
Let's yeah, let's unzip these jeans.
How about that Better? Better, better.
Let's get those ants in those pants.
Lord help me in a bump. So I look, I think the hook up
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app environment, if there's if they're similar to kind of like
the dance floor experience, likeif, if there's not going to be a
very clear agreement, like if ithasn't been spoken about before
in the past, we're all on there for the same reason.
Correct, Like would you, would you do you know, be feral unto
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others as you would like to be feraled?
Right, Wow, right. It's gavel like dung.
I had the gone yes, I because look, if we're all out trying to
have a good time, Yep, you're clearly they're doing the same
thing. So why the fuck you would want
to be like called out or like ormessaged inappropriately or
(24:42):
whatever? So.
Don't like, don't. Don't screenshot it.
Don't any of that shit. No, don't be a fucker.
No, don't be a fucker. No, don't be.
Don't be a fucker. I mean, how?
How about what do you, I don't know, what do you think?
Yeah, I feel like I, I think forme personally, I would just
probably side a little bit more on the side of caution with it
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being on like an app or an online space.
I think just, I think that's just where my brain goes to just
be a little bit more cautious. Whereas on the dance floor, hey,
in the moment things happen, right?
Like that you were talking abouthorse meat disco.
I think that is a phenomenal example that hey, vibes are
vibing. Yeah, things are happening.
All of a sudden one thing leads to another.
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And I think that's fine because maybe you've established
whatever that is. I feel like online, I'm just a
little bit more hesitant becauseit's like to your point, you
could screenshot or you could dosomething, you know what I mean?
And I'm not saying that anybody like that.
That would be worst case scenario obviously.
Yeah, I think it's in a way it'salmost like managed
expectations. Yes, right.
(25:47):
Like it is, it is a bucket of ice cold water being dumped on
you when you get hit up by somebody you work with on like a
hookup ad. Yeah, You know, whereas if if
you're out at a seedy environment, Yep.
And you run into somebody, you're like, well, we're all
going to agree that this stays. Here.
Correct. Yep.
Yeah, that's a good way of putting it.
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I mean, unless it happens to be like, you know, a little glory
hole in the bathroom at the office, then, you know, there's
just no going back. I mean, that's just like the
truck stop off of that off of 80.
You know, maybe we'll see Jonah there.
Oh my God. Right, Jonah, we left.
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Pumping the gas. Oh.
My God, that's not all he's pumping.
Yeah, correct. And we love him for it.
My. God stop, that was so funny.
I'm dead, I'm dead. So, but yeah, I will say
actually there have been times where I've had like people like
whether it was like on Tinder orsomething, maybe like not
necessarily like a hookup app, but something where that might
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be a little bit more social, right.
And then that there would be kind of be almost like it could
be a lighter introduction to just say like, oh, hey, great to
see you on here. And then if somebody replies it
positively, like, oh, hey, yeah,how have you been trying to
continue the conversation? Yeah, rather than just say Yep,
like dismissed like. Let's get.
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I cannot believe I've forgotten this story.
I have a story on this topic. I can't believe it's just not
coming. It's all coming back.
It's OK. Back to me now I.
Not too terribly long ago, I hadsomeone more senior than me very
much express an interest. And it was very clear.
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And I to be honest, it just mademe a little uncomfortable.
Yeah. Because I wasn't sure how to
handle it. And it was one of those things
that I was like new and junior and I just didn't know.
I didn't know what the fuck to do.
Oh my God. And so it was one of those
things that like, I probably should have like sidelined it a
little bit, but I was new and you know what I mean?
So I feel like I almost like needed to continue the
(28:00):
conversation totally. It always, I mean, it ended up
in a fine place, but then it waslike, then I would, you know, we
would end up traveling for work to the same places and then it
would be like then it would be amessage on grinder and it would
be, you know what I mean? So it just like one thing, all
these things, nothing ever happened, right?
Because I was like, I kept it like terms length, distance away
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totally. But that was just a.
Well, in a way that's like that person taking advantage of power
dynamics, right? And like, I mean, I know for my
corporate gig, this is sometimesgirlies.
This is not all she does. She she hustles correct And in
that we have we do annual training that we have to do for
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like the sexual harassment workplace conduct all of that.
And this is one thing that absolutely has to be addressed
every year because it's like, you know, people are worried
about retaliation and always, but people should also just we
should be able to be comfortableat work making your work
environment uncomfortable. Just absolutely unacceptable in
every different form. Absolutely agreed.
(29:05):
Absolutely agreed. So it was just one of those and
I was like, ooh, OK, don't love this, but also unsure what to
do. Yeah, you know what I mean.
And it eventually, just like after time, like played itself
out and everything was fine. And that's, you know what I
mean. I do.
Let's I'm glad it worked out butlike I'm sorry went through that
I. Know, but that was like it kind
of goes back to like then I how I feel with like if I run into a
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junior member out right because so then for me, I don't want to
be that person or even come remotely come across in that way
yeah. So 100% now kind of not like a
sexual coming on type of case, but related.
So I'm going to be a tangent here, sure.
Yeah, yeah. And because I have been the more
senior person that's run into more junior people while being
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out and about. This specifically was at a
festival. So I was like out.
Concerts it was daytime beautiful wonderful time and my
gay ass rolling tits I know who's she rolling tits wearing a
metal harness like I'm like I'm.Cute.
Great. I am feeling my oats.
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Meanwhile, my pupils are saucersand like, I look like a cartoon
Mickey Mouse. And I'm just like, this is Chris
walking through the crowd carrying multiple waters for me
and my friends. Yes, what boy?
And then they're like, Oh my gosh, biscuit.
And I was like. No, no heart into stomach, Yeah.
(30:32):
Yeah. Drops all waters.
Oh my God. And I was like, oh, hey, girls.
Like. And then I was like no, no, no,
hi, guys. Hey, hey, hey.
How are you? Yes, pleasure to see you this
fine day, you know, And so we made it quick.
I was like, oh, I'm so sorry. Obviously I'm carrying these
(30:53):
things. I've got to get back to my
friends because enjoy, have a great day.
And then I was like, Oh my sweetbaby Jesus, like am I?
I'm never going to hear the end of this.
Yep. Never did anything ever come of
it? No, they were pretty cool.
Yeah, See, but and that's, that's best case scenario,
right? Like it's a, hey, it's a brief
interaction that you're having in the crowd.
Yeah, absolutely. I've found myself similar, like,
at like a rave situation, right?So like a massive venue where
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everybody's doing their things and whatnot.
It's not necessarily like a sexual interaction, but it's
just, you know, everybody's vibing in their own way.
And then it's like we're walkingto the bathroom and I run into a
colleague or a junior colleague,and it's just a, hey, how you
doing? Yeah.
And then I'm gonna go to the bathroom and then go back to my
friends. Yep.
Well that's the thing. And I will say, when being out
(31:36):
and about, I have definitely used the bathroom excuse just as
a way to like hit the eject button.
Absolutely. Oh Yep, please, sorry, Nope,
gotta go, gotta go pee. Well, Speaking of that, like
eject button, but also like, OK,you're there with your friends,
maybe we need to pivot to a different location.
Yes. Well, you know what?
And I think that is actually like a really great best
practice. So yes, that's actually a nice
(31:57):
little Segway. Oh, look at you, Pete.
Work Diva. Because I, I couldn't agree
more. Look, I think that if we find
ourselves in an uncomfortable situation, you know, whether
that is like, I don't know, running into a colleague or
something or something else altogether, always rely on your
friends. Your friends are there.
They would want the same from you.
And yeah, yeah. So lean in, say, hey, we need an
(32:21):
exit strategy. Yep.
You know, and worst case, like, let's say it's even a small
venue, there's probably another place you could go if you're
really that uncomfortable, right?
So you you can be the master of your own destiny.
Well, I was just going to say itactually reminds me of a
situation. I was with Bacon at a pretty
small venue and it wasn't like asituation where we could move to
the, the complete opposite side and not be around, you know,
(32:42):
like some people that we didn't really particularly want to be
around there, like just knowing them professionally and whatnot.
And so it was just something as simple as like shifting how we
were all standing as a group, right?
To like, all right, now we're putting our backs to like, you
know what I mean? To not be, to make it very clear
with the body language that like, we're not opening up this
conversation. You were communicating without
(33:02):
communicating, correct? I love that Helen Keller sign
language coming. Through again.
So proud, So proud. You're an inspiration head.
But no, I I love that. I think that is a fantastic best
practice. I mean, I think another one,
though, perhaps the plan for theevening, the location you're
(33:23):
going to planning out your journey.
Yeah. And perhaps what what might be
your Ave. to relieve yourself ofthe weight, the gravity of the
Earth? Yes.
So that's great. Just your regular.
Edgar Allan Hoe over here. Oh, stop it right now, stop it
(33:46):
right now. I love it.
But I think like you bring up a good point that it's like, hey,
at the end of the day, you know,we've got other things that we
have to do. So what are we going to do to
plan accordingly so that we can enjoy, you know, like like we
recently had, right? Like so it's like, hey, we're
out for a tea dance on a Sunday.So maybe it's like, hey, I need
to make sure I either don't do something, maybe Friday or
Saturday night or maybe Sunday I'm going to get a really fat
(34:09):
nap in. Yeah, you know, big old fatty,
Yeah. So maybe I'm going to like bank
the sleep while I can to just know the fact that I'm going to
be a little bit low coming on that night.
Totally. So I very much agree.
I think this is also why people actually burn out of raving
early. Like, like the people that like,
just go hard in their 20s because like when I was in my
(34:31):
20s, when I was like, oh, y'all a little biscuit when those
biscuits were just rising, right?
She was learning the feral ways.And honey, I could go out until
the wee hours and get up and go to work.
No problem. No problem.
No problem, no problem. Now, Jesus Christ, I'm going to
need like a stretcher. You have to defibrillate me.
Yeah. So no, you have to plan.
(34:52):
And I think that the rest component is so spot on, like
plan it out, get it, get, you know, at least I, I always aim
for like ideally 7-8, but that doesn't always happen.
I know. Well, she's old.
Honey, good for you. Into it like in in total I said
aim for it doesn't mean I get. It good.
OK. A goal.
(35:12):
A goal, yeah. But you're right, like the the
nap thing, because if you're going to like steal from the
evening sleeping hours, just maybe sprinkle a little earlier
in the day. Correct.
Yeah, but they got the sleep mass.
I am a big component of her. You are.
And girl, you got me hooked on it.
So I've got one at home. It's nice and like weighted
cooling. Yeah, I'm luxury.
(35:32):
I'm telling you, when we go on our vacation the summer, yes,
trust and believe that that willbe how I sleep.
Yes, I girl, I do not need like a a Lion King sunrise waking me
up. Wow, no.
That's when we'll be getting home.
I'm waking up in somebody else'sbed.
Correct, exactly. The other thing that I think is
(35:54):
best practice is like knowing the limits for yourself for the
night too, right? So if you have something that
you need to do the next day, whether it be work, whether it
be we were just talking a littlebit ago, like if you're hosting
something the next day, like knowing the limits that you can
push yourself in that night to know whatever your
responsibilities are later that you can still fulfill.
Yes, we're all yeah. Was that all one bro?
(36:16):
I was impressed. Just like an auctioneer.
Sweet baby Jesus, I so I totallyagree with that, and I think
this also goes to the idea of like planning for things because
like if you know you've got something in the morning, do all
the pre work now yes, like get ahead of it.
So that way you have as little to do that next day because you
(36:38):
aren't going to have it in you. No correct.
So you know, just yes, get aheadof that shit.
I also think that it's importantthat if you know you've got
something that morning or eve orsomething important that you
just want to plan for, maybe think about the drug choices.
Sure, the night before because some after effects of drugs
(36:59):
might leave you in a less than excited state.
Poor spirits. Yes.
Yes. Yes, yes, yes.
Which just makes everything moredifficult, right?
So you're already in like a yourmental space is unwell, then
you're being expected to do whatever it might be.
It's just all so bad I. Just yes, I just think of the
like the hospital :) stickers, like how do, how do I feel?
(37:22):
Oh my gosh. And I'm like negative.
Is that what the one all the wayto the left?
Yes, the absolute value of this motherfucker.
Correct. Totally.
It was. Oh my God.
I. Feel another one Biscuit, and
you are going to laugh at me forsaying this one is knowing when
to call it. I mean, bitch, that's how we
(37:43):
started this episode. It's that is true.
This is definitely one of the doas I say not as I do situation.
Hey, we all need goals, right? You're so right.
You're so right. Holding this drive lots.
Of 2025 left. Well, yeah, so I think, you
(38:05):
know, we can regroup. End of year full.
Circle back, full circle back. We get 360 feedback.
Yeah, because I don't know when to call it like, like we started
the episode. I told myself, hey, this is
going to be my cut off. This is what's going to happen
and you know, one thing led to another and I think I was a
solid 4 hours later than what I planned.
(38:25):
But hey, don't regret it. You know, I will say I take some
fault and. You take some.
Yes, I will fill your cup this way.
I even biscuit. I was even in this specific
scenario, I was like, oh, you know, I don't have cash, right?
And you're like. I got.
Some. I got cash for you in this cash
(38:46):
only facility, like, and yeah, 'cause everyone else was like,
there were a few and I was like for some reason.
You get some cash, you get some.Cash.
You just Venmo me back. Yeah, it's got you babies.
Yeah, that was a miracle. I'd never have that much cash on
it. So that so that was the divine
intervention. Correct.
It was, it was. It was meant to be.
(39:06):
Yeah. I'm not mad at it.
No, not mad at it. Was the patron St. of partying?
That's what I want to know with all the Catholics we've already
had on the show. One of us, no.
Correct. Like I'm going to look this up.
Welcome. Prepared for our next episode?
Perfect, please. But the spirit animal, I will
say, but part of the the fault I'm accepting for this is also
that at that pregame, I plotted out a whole agenda for you on
(39:29):
like how you were still going toget 65 to six hours of sleep.
Sure did. And still be out and be a feral
little troll yourself. Sure did.
And I did end up with about 4:00to 5:00.
So not like, yeah, could have been way way way way way worse.
Yes. So in a way we gave you a plan.
It just wasn't, you didn't know you were going to act on it,
correct. So we'll just, we'll chalk that
(39:52):
one up in that column. You know that doesn't count
against your, yeah, your performance improvement plan,
not. The pep your.
Party improvement plan. The better pimp.
Yeah, the better pimp, that's the better pimp.
But with that, yeah, part of that, Pip, is for any of us that
is, is planning like, yes, the drug journey of choice, you
(40:12):
know? So perhaps don't do Becky before
a big morning meeting, correct, When you're going to be all
depressed. Just don't do that.
Don't do that. Well, I think the other like
side of the planning just on theme with the episode, right,
is like, OK, maybe you do run into somebody that you work with
or run into somebody that you know in some type of
professional setting. Like what what are you doing?
(40:32):
What are you going to do in thatsituation, right?
Like have you have just like a subconscious plan, Like, OK,
you're going to choose to ignoreor avoid, which is fine totally.
You're going to choose to have areally brief interaction, or
maybe you're going to decide to do otherwise.
I don't know. Yeah, I'll find that horse made
disco darkroom. Correct, correct.
Correct. No, I I totally agree it does.
(40:53):
Yeah, going in with a plan allows you to like when the
fight or flight kicks in, that you've got something you can
react to, something you can do alittle plan to.
So that way when your mind is full animal mode because.
Barrel animal feral feral like pumping everything.
Yes, yes it, but also rabbit, you're drooling so foaming at
(41:15):
the mouth. Familiar.
Yeah. Maybe it's a different type of
foam? Right.
So I totally agree. I totally agree.
I'm sorry, kicking that visual out of my just.
Especially bacon. Like I'm imagining the Jolly
Green Giant. Oh my God, yeah.
What if he was a? Coworker that I would have
(41:39):
screamed. I would have lost all control of
my body. It would have been.
It would have been amazing. I would have just like, yeah,
you know, those toys that like they have like the strings in
them and you push the button andthey just like collapse to the
floor. That's what would have that's
that would have been me. Yes, Oh my.
God anyways. Well, I actually, and this is a
little tidbit I got from my therapist.
(42:00):
So thank you, girl, because I asI was like starting to get into
my more serious, fun feral days,which our regular listeners will
recall has been like only withinthe past several few years or
what have you really coming out of the post pandy when I was
like, girl needs to dance. And in that I was like, oh, am
(42:21):
I, am I overdoing it? What do I?
And so I wanted to do like a little check in.
And I encourage this like with if you are good with your
therapist and you're I first of all, I feel like people, if you,
if you can be comfortable or if you're comfortable being
uncomfortable. And I encourage that, yeah, to
like talk with your therapist about this.
They have to keep, you know, patient confidentiality and all
that. So so there's that.
(42:43):
But with that, I was, my concernwas that I was maybe overdoing
it. And she goes, well, Biscuit.
Yeah. Is it interfering with your
work? Is it hurting your
relationships? Is it impeding your life in a
way outside of making yourself tired?
And she's like, you absolutely need to get rest.
But like if you are damaging other things that are important
(43:03):
to you and the core of your lifeand your livelihood, that's
where it's a big issue Now I'm sure I'm one not I like that.
I know, right? I was.
She's like, do it safe. Do it like if you're going to
she's like, yes, I know you do recreational drugs, right?
Hey, like, thank you for sharingthat.
Let's just talk about dude, I'm smart.
Yep. So that way you don't ruin your
(43:25):
life because I'm here. She's like, I'm trying to keep
you pieced together. You fucking like Humpty Dumpty
over here. Just a cracked out cracky Jackie
cracky. Jackie Humpty Dumpty is a.
Cracky Jackie. Yes.
Ohh, that just rewrites. Yes, she sat on.
(43:45):
And she didn't sit on a wall, honey, she sat on a Dick.
And she's gonna have a great fall, you know what I mean?
She's up there so high. Talk about a come down, am I
right? Ohh.
Jesus Christ. But I, I really like that
because I think that as do we all like get in our heads about
certain things, right? And I think, you know, we've
talked about on some previous episodes too, where it's like,
(44:07):
OK, maybe you have like some relationships that change
because you've discovered this part of yourself that's really
like scratching this itch. But maybe some people that
you've been really close to likethat doesn't scratch their itch,
right? So then you're almost like
doubting yourself and like, wait, should I not be doing
this? Am I harming myself?
But I think that that's like a great little check in to have,
right? Totally, totally.
And I think too, it's the overdoing it or whatever is
(44:30):
gonna differ person to person. Sure.
Totally national, right? Right.
But I think it's important to like know what is important to
you and be able to therefore be able to track against that.
Because if you feel like you're falling behind on friendships,
relationships in on work, like that's the time to check in,
whether that's about being fairly low and partying or
really anything else in life. Exactly.
But yes, so find what fills yourcup.
(44:52):
Yeah. And and you might have multiple
cups and that's OK. Yeah, that's OK.
We we like to drink many, many of drinks.
We like all the. Cups we like.
Our. Margaritas, we like.
Our Gatorade we like. AB Cup we love.
And we all know we love our sugar free Red Bull.
And yes, honey works sis. I mean that'll help with the
(45:12):
recovery. Incorrect.
Getting up that morning pounded bitch.
Yes, that and your cold brew. Oh well, I think that's probably
a really great place. To I was just going to say I
think that like that's a really nice bow that you just put on
the episode just because I'm notgoing to lie, creative.
Genius. I well, I didn't realize how
crafty I was just tying it. All I'm not usually I'm the
crafty 1 here. Girl don't expect my presents
(45:33):
wrapped up at Christmas are fucked.
Like I have not coordinated, notmy skill set.
So just this is going to be the cutest, but you're going to get
girl. Hey, good to know, good to know.
But with that, from our fair relationship to yours, I'm Pete.
And I'm Biscuit. And remember.
Have fun, get fucked and get fair by girly Ibbs.
I got something bad.
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