January 10, 2025 • 29 mins
Everyone is sick! It's that time of the year. So grab a big ol' bottle of Vitamin C and join Jed and Justin this week to chat illness, and lack thereof. We thought we could use a reminder that Covid sucks, so here we are to reminisce on a weirder time.
And although we don't like the circumstances, we're happy to bring you our first ever video episode! Mainly because the only way we could meet was on Zoom this week. So go check that out on YouTube if you want a glimpse into our dwellings. Enjoy the show! (And get well soon)
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Hello, film friends, friends of film and everyone in between.
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Welcome to the Film Folklore Podcast Mini-Sode.
I suppose it's a bit of an emergency Mini-Sode, which we'll get into in a second, but I am
with Justin Sound.
Hello.
And everyone else is sick.
And so...
They've all got Ebola.
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Yeah.
Chris lied and said that he was fine and then invited everyone for a party, which at the
time, unfortunately, Justin and I couldn't make it.
But now in hindsight, we're the only ones that don't have Ebola, so I suppose that's
egg on his face.
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But yeah.
So we a little peek behind the curtain.
We were not ahead on recording.
So we've kind of got caught with our pants down, but we want to put something out there
that you guys can enjoy.
And we're also testing our Zoom world.
I did not try to put a background so you can see what it's like to be in props with children,
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because you can see chaos behind me.
It's clean clutter.
We'll leave it at that.
So I guess for starters, Justin, how are you doing besides not being sick?
You and I are one of 50 people in the country.
Yeah.
I'm excellent.
I have to clear my throat there.
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I mean, knock on some wood.
Yeah, no, I'm great.
My wife isn't as good as I am.
I have an update on her.
She woke up a couple of weeks ago and couldn't hear out of her left ear.
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It sounds, well, no pun intended, but it sounds scary.
It sounds very scary.
Yeah.
And so, you know, doing all these tests, going to all these doctors, this and that, finally
get to an ENT and they start on around a steroids.
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First shot that they give her is a syringe right in the ear drum of steroids.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's a nail biter.
And then some pretty heavy steroid doses after it.
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But anyway, so the actual ENT doctor called her a few days later and he's like, yeah,
you know, need you to continue those steroids and just wanted to check in and he let her
know that there's actually a virus going around that's causing people to lose their
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hearing in their left ear.
Left ear specific.
Well, I'm sorry, losing hearing in one ear with her, it was specifically the left.
But yeah, no, it was particularly scary for me to hear that it was a virus going around
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that could potentially, you know, damage my money makers.
I mean, I don't know if it's if it silver lining is the right term, but if you woke
up and you didn't have hearing in one of your ears, at least you know the source, I mean,
or the high probability source.
Sure.
The downside is that that likely would mean you're about to have a shot in your ear,
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which would not be cool.
Not at all.
Oh my God.
Well, I hope she I hope she has a swift recovery.
That's that sounds awful.
She's starting.
She's starting to some some some sounds are starting to come back.
So we're we're that's good.
Yeah, we're out some mistakes.
Yeah, y'all send her some some positive vibes and good luck because she she's had a bad run
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through the holidays.
Well, kind of going with the theme of everyone being sick.
Justin I thought maybe it'd be some that's weird to say fun, but maybe we're going to
talk a little COVID because we've never really talked about it on the podcast.
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And for people who are in the film industry, I guess I'll apologize in advance for any
PTSD that this might cause.
But for people that don't know, we were one of the first industries to open back up coming
out of the pandemic.
It might shock some people, but the entertainment industry was considered.
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What's the term I just said a second ago, I forgot not a vital essential.
Yeah, yeah, we were considered essential.
And I do remember being as surprised as someone listening might be right now.
But I was also really to go back to work.
What was new to us was that at the time it was unprecedented.
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It was hailed as this big achievement.
It was the first time in the history of our entire industry that all the guilds unions,
all the producers and everyone had drafted up a single agreement that would be the outline
for how we're going to work and navigate through COVID.
And it had a fancy name.
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I don't remember it.
I didn't bother to look it up because it's not relevant.
But what it essentially meant was that we had to be in these groups.
And so they were calling it like Group A and Group B and Group A had set access.
Group B was not supposed to be around set.
There was a lot of rules about all the PPE goggles and face mask and everything that
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we had to have on, especially around the actors, because we should call a spade a spade.
This was all insurance liability.
It wasn't about our well-being, especially they needed the actors to be good to go so
that they could go forward with the shooting and everything.
So it was really all about the actors not getting sick.
We are replaceable.
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That's fine.
And it eventually turned into mostly like a color coded thing, right?
The red zone was the actors and the above the line people.
It's the beginning of airplane.
The white zone is for loading and unloading.
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It more or less worked out.
They brought in these COVID compliance officers, I believe was their name, the show I was on
at the time, that person's name was Ed.
So we called him COVID.
And you made the most of it.
I could maybe dig up a picture.
I found a mask of a face that I could put over my face.
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And to play a light prank on COVID, I took a normal accepted mask and I put that over
the fake mask of a face.
But I let it hang down on the chin as everyone remembers.
A lot of people are wearing face masks like chin diapers.
And so I was basically set up like that.
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But the face looking mask, which looked eerily good, skin tone matching for me.
But I would just kind of make crosses by him until he would notice.
And then eventually, you know, you'd be like, hey, you need it.
What looks off there?
That kind of thing.
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We made the most of it.
It was a little stressful getting the swabs all the time.
I remember my buddy Sam, we were always making jokes when we were in line.
If he went first, maybe he would come out and be like, you want to go with the lady
on the right because the lady on the left just tickled my brain.
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That kind of talk.
Because some people were much harsher than others.
Oh yeah.
Came to the swabs.
Some deep rail up there.
Yeah.
Do you have any kind of specific memories or anything from that time period?
Some of those rules or situations that you had to go through?
No, I also remember the same thing.
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Just kind of pushing the limits of the COVID compliance officers a lot.
At least, you know, not so much whenever we first started working again.
But you know, once we got into the groove of things and everybody kind of got used to
it and other industries started to get to work and this and that, then it kind of became
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more clear that it was more so for the liability and less so for our safety.
And then so that's when you have more of an attitude towards it, I suppose.
Starting to keep the mask on for virtually 10 to 12 hours, I mean, even in good spirits,
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that gets taxing after a while.
And I think for a lot of people, it wasn't like, it wasn't like, fuck COVID and fuck
these rules.
I think it was just like, Jesus Christ, get this mask off of me.
Especially when it got into the hot months, you know, then it's even worse.
And you had all these COVID compliance officers that not knocking their job or anything, but
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like, I don't know what background they come from, most of them.
Certainly not a COVID compliance background.
No, I mean, it's a brand new physician and I'm pretty sure most of them were just PAs
before the position existed.
But yeah, I mean, so there was a little bit of bias as far as, you know, enforcement goes
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as well.
Yeah, from projects to projects, you would notice a difference sometimes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, some people would just be less inclined to tell the higher ups, you know, hey, put
your mask on versus coming to tell a crew member, hey, put your mask on.
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Yeah.
There's a weird irony that I wish I could give credit to the first person I remember mentioning
it, but this is way after the fact.
I mean, this is like two years ago, but I had just totally forgotten that pre COVID,
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all the studios and everyone were slowly going green as they were kind of calling it.
And so it was all these efforts for them to quote, unquote, limit their carbon footprint
and all these things.
But the reality would be, they would say, oh, we're only doing digital distribution,
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but you're more than welcome to print your own stuff and kill your own trees.
We're just not doing it.
You know, is that kind of stuff.
And then COVID happening and the volume of PPE material that was used is about as opposite
of going green as you could possibly get.
And when somebody said that, it was just kind of like this light bulb of going, oh my God,
you're right.
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Talk about a swinging pendulum.
And I had never thought of that.
It's a little wild when you think about it.
I remember I want to say was Daddy's Home was the first movie I worked on that was green
at all.
And I had to grab a package from the office and I was like, oh, I'll grab some coffee from
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the office kitchen.
And when I went to look, I couldn't find a paper cup, like a go cup coffee cup.
And I came back out and I said, hey, where are the where the go cups at?
And someone said, oh, we're a green show.
So we only have mugs.
But I mean, if you have your own mug, you can fill that up.
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And I was like, okay.
Y'all are using Keurig's.
I mean, you do.
Are they the refillable Keurig cup?
No, those didn't exist yet.
They refilled each time.
No, this is good old plastic Keurig pods or whatever they're called.
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But yeah, I just remember that being like a strange thing, you know, being told like
we're green and you're like, okay, I mean, that's fine.
It's just why are you using the pod things then?
But whatever.
And the random memories from that, but yeah, COVID was weird.
And then, you know, in the summer months, we had lightning delays sometimes, which is
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a normal thing that can happen in places like Louisiana.
And essentially, it's getting out of harm's way when lightning is too close to us.
And then they shut down generators and things like that.
It's all safety related.
But with COVID in mind, we got to take shelter yet spread out.
And so she gets into these kind of conundrums.
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So some shows would just have buses and you could go get on the bus, but you got to stay
a certain number of seats from the nearest person.
And then a PA is going, all right, we have 12 person on this, like, you know, whatever,
40 seat bus were full.
So odd stuff like that was happening.
But I mean, in hindsight, I guess I can't talk too much trash because I'm appreciative
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that we were back to work.
I think for a lot of people is regaining sanity because the shutdown when it was at the peak
of shutdown, I think, I mean, I definitely was going stir crazy, but it was very cabin
fever feeling.
But I also have children and everything.
So I have friends that are single and gamers and they were in paradise.
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So right.
That was great.
Speaking of the lighting, there was a show I worked on a couple of years ago.
It actually just got released on Netflix.
So there's COVID all over the place.
There's like, we're in the middle of an outbreak.
Everywhere you look, it's taken like two or three people out a day.
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Everybody's calling for everybody replacements.
Like we're just we're calling just in case somebody gets taken out like, hey, one of
us might get taken out tomorrow.
Are you ready to go kind of thing?
Just be ready in case we call you.
And it was and so, you know, so COVID was hitting real bad.
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And then it was dead summer.
We were shooting outside in the middle of nowhere.
There was nothing around, no buildings or anything like that.
And we got caught in one of these crazy, you know, like hour long storms that are just
one of those Louisiana storms.
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Sometimes it feels kind of like a hurricane almost, but it's, you know, it's just a it's
just a regular storm.
And so everybody definitely needs to take shelter in buses.
And so we cram in these things and everybody's, you know, everybody's so.
Soaking wet like cramming in these buses.
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And yeah, we're stuck in there for about an hour or so.
And yeah, I just remembered, you know, that next day, I think, you know, we probably had
half the crew show up.
And on that same show, there's a there's a follow van for video village, right?
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So for our listeners, typically, our video village area is where our directors are scripty
or, you know, our various higher ups will hang out, watch video monitors make decisions
or director photography as well.
And so the video village is set up in a follow van because we're doing these moving shots
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with cars and things like that, right?
So it's it's a very tight space.
And I'm I'm set up in the very back of the van.
And I've got a tarp blocking me like almost like a tent that I set up in the back of the
van blocking all all contact from everybody.
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But with this COVID approved tarps, I don't know.
But but I but I had it fully enclosed back there.
I had a little I had a little in Kent, man, it was it was it was pretty nice.
But but not nice enough.
So what happened was it took out one by one from the front all the way to the back.
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It just moved one by one and took everybody out.
And I was the last person to get COVID on that show.
And that's the second time I've had COVID in my life.
That's your only time?
Second time.
Second time.
Yeah, I got it at the beginning.
Okay.
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Well, I actually got it so many times.
I lost count and my my peers colleagues in my department were making fun of me because
for a good year and a half with starting with with the outbreak or the return to work, I
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guess, the return to work agreement, that was the fancy name for the contract.
Anyway, I, I was getting COVID on every show we were doing.
But I was getting it the first week of shooting every time.
So they they started joking, like, are you intentionally getting COVID?
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Yeah, you did it on purpose.
So you get it's like sick leave.
Yeah, then it's, you know, I'm like, you know, oh, who has COVID?
Let me go make out with them.
Oh, you're putting those positive tests in your pocket to take photos of later.
Well, and sometimes that like that I tested positive, I was asymptomatic, which was kind
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of unnerving.
And I had had it probably five or six times before I experienced the loss of smell that
some people have gotten.
I had that once or sense of taste and smell.
That's yeah.
Yeah.
It was just weird.
But then I finally broke the cycle.
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I believe beginning of last year, I think was the first project that I didn't get COVID
in the first week of shooting.
But it was a good like year and a half of just steady every project I did.
And my friends and coworkers, it did get to the point that they thought that I was somehow
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cheating the system.
And I was like, I wish I could say I was because most of the time I was legitimately sick and
miserable.
So, you know, COVID doesn't get better with more times of having it.
Just kind of generally sucks.
Yeah.
You just don't know, you know, to what degree am I going to have it this time?
And am I going to lose a sense or am I going to, you know, or a wild virus where you lose
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hearing in one year?
Exactly.
Yeah.
No, that's what we thought as well.
Like, you know, did she have COVID and like we just didn't know.
She actually tested a few weeks ago because my mom had it.
And she didn't test positive for it or anything.
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But you never know.
Could have been.
I mean, we don't even know for sure it was a virus or it is a virus that's causing that
ear thing.
But, you know, hopefully it's...
I've never heard of something like that.
But then again, like something like COVID was never fathomable.
Yeah.
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So, a couple of other things that I wanted to bring up in our little mini-soad here.
And because we weren't planning on having a sick episode, but here we are.
I had an experience today that is not sick related, but I just wanted your opinion on
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it because it's a pet peeve of mine that I still don't know how to deal with.
But the long short is that I had to go into Walmart to get something.
It was time sensitive.
So I'm in a hurry.
And I'm also in a hurry in Walmart, which is already miserable.
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And I go all the way back to the electronics area where a man abruptly kind of like cuts
me off and gets in front of me.
But he starts going like, whoa, sweet shoes.
And I was like, what?
And he goes, I love your shoes.
And I'm going, okay, thanks.
And he goes, oh my God, whoa.
Dude, your eyes, are they blue?
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They're almost like purple.
And I'm like, what?
What the fuck is up with this guy?
And he goes, hey, let me ask you a question.
Who's your service provider?
I'm like, no, no, no, God, God, come on.
So...
Got him.
Especially...
I mean, I'm already in a hurry and I already hate this.
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The feeling it gives me is I want to be like Robert Stack in airplane.
This is my second airplane reference in one episode.
When he's beating the shit out of all of the hand-me-out people at the airport, that's
what I want.
I want to just somehow know martial arts and start beating up all of these solicitors
that are in my way and just get to the item and get out of this damn Walmart.
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And I'm at the Chapatulis Walmart, which for anyone in New Orleans knows it's the worst
Walmart.
So, hey, so I locked up because the guy just hit stun me with a left hook, basically, with
the weirdness and asking me about my eyes.
Like what the...
That's how I got ya.
I don't know.
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I didn't even know how to handle that properly.
So I was just going like, look, man, I'm really in a hurry.
I was like, well, good, because this doesn't take long.
I'm like, stop having an answer for everything.
Like I'm trying to not be mean and you're really making fun.
So my question is how do you try to handle yourself when you get blindsided by this kind
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of solicitation and you're in a hurry?
Because I'm just kind of at a loss and I end up being rude because I don't know what else
to do.
And then I'm mad for the next hour because I'm like, this is not on you.
You made me do this.
So how do you handle those things?
Yeah, that's a tough one.
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If I'm holding my phone, it's easier, right?
Because if you're holding your phone, you can be like, oh, I'm on the phone.
And then just pretend like you have somebody on speakerphone, right?
And then just continue your conversation.
Just bring the phone back up here.
I've pulled that off a couple of times before.
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Just kind of like, oh, hey, yeah, yeah.
So what is it that you need now?
You need a cell phone battery?
Okay.
Yeah.
Do you hold up the finger?
Sorry.
I have held up the finger.
That makes me happy.
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Or what I've done more often is just kind of like point at it.
Just been like, oh, sorry, I'm on the phone.
So I think we're going to attempt to post this to YouTube.
And in the comments, that's the question that I'd like people to give an answer to is, how
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do you handle unwanted solicitation when you're blindsided by it?
I think that would be fun to see what people say.
Curse all you want.
I don't care.
And also we can segue with that to say we're on the hunt for a help with content creation
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for anyone listening that might be savvy with that or know someone that might be savvy with
that to be interested.
And if you like our podcast, we would like to be more accessible for all of you and the
masses.
And so where we need help is getting our content out to our social medias and stuff because
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it is a little overwhelming when you're not used to it and haven't done it.
And that's why we are embarrassingly behind on that kind of stuff.
So if anyone listening, you can email us film full core podcast at gmail.com.
You can go to one of our socials and send a message.
We will get the message eventually.
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Maybe not as fast as the email, but we'll get it eventually.
And that's something that would be really cool and helpful, even if it was maybe tutorials
because as Zoe has said, we're all very old except for her.
So we need a young to teach us all this new digital age.
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But yeah, that would be great.
And we're going to put this out as a little experiment.
You can look at our ugly mugs.
Well, Justin's handsome, I'm not.
But I think to that, this is our little test run of a mini episode.
Justin, any final thoughts to our mini-sode?
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No final thoughts.
I do have a shout out really quick.
We got our second review on Apple podcast.
Yeah.
I'd like to shout out, Suze has big hair.
What kind of big hair are we talking about?
Beehive or?
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I love it.
I'm curious.
Yeah, anyone.
Is this 80s Dolly or what are we talking about here?
Pompadour.
Yeah.
What does Suze have to say?
Suze has big hair, says, so happy my forever friend, Libra for Justice.
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Shout out Libra for Justice there.
Told me about y'all, I'm her sidekick.
Keep entertaining us, nothing but love.
Thanks so much, Suze has big hair.
Thank you, Suze has big hair.
Can we somehow tether all of our reviews?
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Can someone that is associated with Suze has big hair make a review?
And then chains in that manner, that would be the most pointless delight you could offer
us.
And even if you don't know Suze has big hair, the next person that reviews this has to shout
out Suze has big hair.
Yeah, I like that system.
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It's passing a torch, so to speak.
Well, thank you everyone for listening and watching, I guess, for those who are watching.
And apologies for my background.
And we'll be back next week theoretically with less sick people unless everyone else
is healthy and then Justin and I are sick.
And we'll be in a new boat.
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So fingers crossed.
Thanks everybody.
Alright, thanks.
Bye.
Hello, film friends, friends of film and everyone in between.
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Welcome to the Film Folklore Podcast Mini-Sode.
I suppose it's a bit of an emergency Mini-Sode, which we'll get into in a second, but I am
with Justin Sound.
Hello.
And everyone else is sick.
And so...
They've all got Ebola.
(00:29):
Yeah.
Chris lied and said that he was fine and then invited everyone for a party, which at the
time, unfortunately, Justin and I couldn't make it.
But now in hindsight, we're the only ones that don't have Ebola, so I suppose that's
egg on his face.
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But yeah.
So we a little peek behind the curtain.
We were not ahead on recording.
So we've kind of got caught with our pants down, but we want to put something out there
that you guys can enjoy.
And we're also testing our Zoom world.
I did not try to put a background so you can see what it's like to be in props with children,
(01:15):
because you can see chaos behind me.
It's clean clutter.
We'll leave it at that.
So I guess for starters, Justin, how are you doing besides not being sick?
You and I are one of 50 people in the country.
Yeah.
I'm excellent.
I have to clear my throat there.
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I mean, knock on some wood.
Yeah, no, I'm great.
My wife isn't as good as I am.
I have an update on her.
She woke up a couple of weeks ago and couldn't hear out of her left ear.
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It sounds, well, no pun intended, but it sounds scary.
It sounds very scary.
Yeah.
And so, you know, doing all these tests, going to all these doctors, this and that, finally
get to an ENT and they start on around a steroids.
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First shot that they give her is a syringe right in the ear drum of steroids.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's a nail biter.
And then some pretty heavy steroid doses after it.
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But anyway, so the actual ENT doctor called her a few days later and he's like, yeah,
you know, need you to continue those steroids and just wanted to check in and he let her
know that there's actually a virus going around that's causing people to lose their
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hearing in their left ear.
Left ear specific.
Well, I'm sorry, losing hearing in one ear with her, it was specifically the left.
But yeah, no, it was particularly scary for me to hear that it was a virus going around
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that could potentially, you know, damage my money makers.
I mean, I don't know if it's if it silver lining is the right term, but if you woke
up and you didn't have hearing in one of your ears, at least you know the source, I mean,
or the high probability source.
Sure.
The downside is that that likely would mean you're about to have a shot in your ear,
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which would not be cool.
Not at all.
Oh my God.
Well, I hope she I hope she has a swift recovery.
That's that sounds awful.
She's starting.
She's starting to some some some sounds are starting to come back.
So we're we're that's good.
Yeah, we're out some mistakes.
Yeah, y'all send her some some positive vibes and good luck because she she's had a bad run
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through the holidays.
Well, kind of going with the theme of everyone being sick.
Justin I thought maybe it'd be some that's weird to say fun, but maybe we're going to
talk a little COVID because we've never really talked about it on the podcast.
(04:43):
And for people who are in the film industry, I guess I'll apologize in advance for any
PTSD that this might cause.
But for people that don't know, we were one of the first industries to open back up coming
out of the pandemic.
It might shock some people, but the entertainment industry was considered.
(05:07):
What's the term I just said a second ago, I forgot not a vital essential.
Yeah, yeah, we were considered essential.
And I do remember being as surprised as someone listening might be right now.
But I was also really to go back to work.
What was new to us was that at the time it was unprecedented.
(05:32):
It was hailed as this big achievement.
It was the first time in the history of our entire industry that all the guilds unions,
all the producers and everyone had drafted up a single agreement that would be the outline
for how we're going to work and navigate through COVID.
And it had a fancy name.
(05:52):
I don't remember it.
I didn't bother to look it up because it's not relevant.
But what it essentially meant was that we had to be in these groups.
And so they were calling it like Group A and Group B and Group A had set access.
Group B was not supposed to be around set.
There was a lot of rules about all the PPE goggles and face mask and everything that
(06:20):
we had to have on, especially around the actors, because we should call a spade a spade.
This was all insurance liability.
It wasn't about our well-being, especially they needed the actors to be good to go so
that they could go forward with the shooting and everything.
So it was really all about the actors not getting sick.
We are replaceable.
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That's fine.
And it eventually turned into mostly like a color coded thing, right?
The red zone was the actors and the above the line people.
It's the beginning of airplane.
The white zone is for loading and unloading.
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It more or less worked out.
They brought in these COVID compliance officers, I believe was their name, the show I was on
at the time, that person's name was Ed.
So we called him COVID.
And you made the most of it.
I could maybe dig up a picture.
I found a mask of a face that I could put over my face.
(07:32):
And to play a light prank on COVID, I took a normal accepted mask and I put that over
the fake mask of a face.
But I let it hang down on the chin as everyone remembers.
A lot of people are wearing face masks like chin diapers.
And so I was basically set up like that.
(07:54):
But the face looking mask, which looked eerily good, skin tone matching for me.
But I would just kind of make crosses by him until he would notice.
And then eventually, you know, you'd be like, hey, you need it.
What looks off there?
That kind of thing.
(08:14):
We made the most of it.
It was a little stressful getting the swabs all the time.
I remember my buddy Sam, we were always making jokes when we were in line.
If he went first, maybe he would come out and be like, you want to go with the lady
on the right because the lady on the left just tickled my brain.
(08:36):
That kind of talk.
Because some people were much harsher than others.
Oh yeah.
Came to the swabs.
Some deep rail up there.
Yeah.
Do you have any kind of specific memories or anything from that time period?
Some of those rules or situations that you had to go through?
No, I also remember the same thing.
(08:57):
Just kind of pushing the limits of the COVID compliance officers a lot.
At least, you know, not so much whenever we first started working again.
But you know, once we got into the groove of things and everybody kind of got used to
it and other industries started to get to work and this and that, then it kind of became
(09:25):
more clear that it was more so for the liability and less so for our safety.
And then so that's when you have more of an attitude towards it, I suppose.
Starting to keep the mask on for virtually 10 to 12 hours, I mean, even in good spirits,
(09:45):
that gets taxing after a while.
And I think for a lot of people, it wasn't like, it wasn't like, fuck COVID and fuck
these rules.
I think it was just like, Jesus Christ, get this mask off of me.
Especially when it got into the hot months, you know, then it's even worse.
And you had all these COVID compliance officers that not knocking their job or anything, but
(10:07):
like, I don't know what background they come from, most of them.
Certainly not a COVID compliance background.
No, I mean, it's a brand new physician and I'm pretty sure most of them were just PAs
before the position existed.
But yeah, I mean, so there was a little bit of bias as far as, you know, enforcement goes
(10:36):
as well.
Yeah, from projects to projects, you would notice a difference sometimes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, some people would just be less inclined to tell the higher ups, you know, hey, put
your mask on versus coming to tell a crew member, hey, put your mask on.
(10:59):
Yeah.
There's a weird irony that I wish I could give credit to the first person I remember mentioning
it, but this is way after the fact.
I mean, this is like two years ago, but I had just totally forgotten that pre COVID,
(11:19):
all the studios and everyone were slowly going green as they were kind of calling it.
And so it was all these efforts for them to quote, unquote, limit their carbon footprint
and all these things.
But the reality would be, they would say, oh, we're only doing digital distribution,
(11:40):
but you're more than welcome to print your own stuff and kill your own trees.
We're just not doing it.
You know, is that kind of stuff.
And then COVID happening and the volume of PPE material that was used is about as opposite
of going green as you could possibly get.
And when somebody said that, it was just kind of like this light bulb of going, oh my God,
you're right.
(12:01):
Talk about a swinging pendulum.
And I had never thought of that.
It's a little wild when you think about it.
I remember I want to say was Daddy's Home was the first movie I worked on that was green
at all.
And I had to grab a package from the office and I was like, oh, I'll grab some coffee from
(12:23):
the office kitchen.
And when I went to look, I couldn't find a paper cup, like a go cup coffee cup.
And I came back out and I said, hey, where are the where the go cups at?
And someone said, oh, we're a green show.
So we only have mugs.
But I mean, if you have your own mug, you can fill that up.
(12:43):
And I was like, okay.
Y'all are using Keurig's.
I mean, you do.
Are they the refillable Keurig cup?
No, those didn't exist yet.
They refilled each time.
No, this is good old plastic Keurig pods or whatever they're called.
(13:05):
But yeah, I just remember that being like a strange thing, you know, being told like
we're green and you're like, okay, I mean, that's fine.
It's just why are you using the pod things then?
But whatever.
And the random memories from that, but yeah, COVID was weird.
And then, you know, in the summer months, we had lightning delays sometimes, which is
(13:27):
a normal thing that can happen in places like Louisiana.
And essentially, it's getting out of harm's way when lightning is too close to us.
And then they shut down generators and things like that.
It's all safety related.
But with COVID in mind, we got to take shelter yet spread out.
And so she gets into these kind of conundrums.
(13:51):
So some shows would just have buses and you could go get on the bus, but you got to stay
a certain number of seats from the nearest person.
And then a PA is going, all right, we have 12 person on this, like, you know, whatever,
40 seat bus were full.
So odd stuff like that was happening.
But I mean, in hindsight, I guess I can't talk too much trash because I'm appreciative
(14:16):
that we were back to work.
I think for a lot of people is regaining sanity because the shutdown when it was at the peak
of shutdown, I think, I mean, I definitely was going stir crazy, but it was very cabin
fever feeling.
But I also have children and everything.
So I have friends that are single and gamers and they were in paradise.
(14:39):
So right.
That was great.
Speaking of the lighting, there was a show I worked on a couple of years ago.
It actually just got released on Netflix.
So there's COVID all over the place.
There's like, we're in the middle of an outbreak.
Everywhere you look, it's taken like two or three people out a day.
(15:02):
Everybody's calling for everybody replacements.
Like we're just we're calling just in case somebody gets taken out like, hey, one of
us might get taken out tomorrow.
Are you ready to go kind of thing?
Just be ready in case we call you.
And it was and so, you know, so COVID was hitting real bad.
(15:25):
And then it was dead summer.
We were shooting outside in the middle of nowhere.
There was nothing around, no buildings or anything like that.
And we got caught in one of these crazy, you know, like hour long storms that are just
one of those Louisiana storms.
(15:46):
Sometimes it feels kind of like a hurricane almost, but it's, you know, it's just a it's
just a regular storm.
And so everybody definitely needs to take shelter in buses.
And so we cram in these things and everybody's, you know, everybody's so.
Soaking wet like cramming in these buses.
(16:11):
And yeah, we're stuck in there for about an hour or so.
And yeah, I just remembered, you know, that next day, I think, you know, we probably had
half the crew show up.
And on that same show, there's a there's a follow van for video village, right?
(16:34):
So for our listeners, typically, our video village area is where our directors are scripty
or, you know, our various higher ups will hang out, watch video monitors make decisions
or director photography as well.
And so the video village is set up in a follow van because we're doing these moving shots
(17:01):
with cars and things like that, right?
So it's it's a very tight space.
And I'm I'm set up in the very back of the van.
And I've got a tarp blocking me like almost like a tent that I set up in the back of the
van blocking all all contact from everybody.
(17:28):
But with this COVID approved tarps, I don't know.
But but I but I had it fully enclosed back there.
I had a little I had a little in Kent, man, it was it was it was pretty nice.
But but not nice enough.
So what happened was it took out one by one from the front all the way to the back.
(17:53):
It just moved one by one and took everybody out.
And I was the last person to get COVID on that show.
And that's the second time I've had COVID in my life.
That's your only time?
Second time.
Second time.
Yeah, I got it at the beginning.
Okay.
(18:13):
Well, I actually got it so many times.
I lost count and my my peers colleagues in my department were making fun of me because
for a good year and a half with starting with with the outbreak or the return to work, I
(18:35):
guess, the return to work agreement, that was the fancy name for the contract.
Anyway, I, I was getting COVID on every show we were doing.
But I was getting it the first week of shooting every time.
So they they started joking, like, are you intentionally getting COVID?
(18:55):
Yeah, you did it on purpose.
So you get it's like sick leave.
Yeah, then it's, you know, I'm like, you know, oh, who has COVID?
Let me go make out with them.
Oh, you're putting those positive tests in your pocket to take photos of later.
Well, and sometimes that like that I tested positive, I was asymptomatic, which was kind
(19:20):
of unnerving.
And I had had it probably five or six times before I experienced the loss of smell that
some people have gotten.
I had that once or sense of taste and smell.
That's yeah.
Yeah.
It was just weird.
But then I finally broke the cycle.
(19:42):
I believe beginning of last year, I think was the first project that I didn't get COVID
in the first week of shooting.
But it was a good like year and a half of just steady every project I did.
And my friends and coworkers, it did get to the point that they thought that I was somehow
(20:05):
cheating the system.
And I was like, I wish I could say I was because most of the time I was legitimately sick and
miserable.
So, you know, COVID doesn't get better with more times of having it.
Just kind of generally sucks.
Yeah.
You just don't know, you know, to what degree am I going to have it this time?
And am I going to lose a sense or am I going to, you know, or a wild virus where you lose
(20:29):
hearing in one year?
Exactly.
Yeah.
No, that's what we thought as well.
Like, you know, did she have COVID and like we just didn't know.
She actually tested a few weeks ago because my mom had it.
And she didn't test positive for it or anything.
(20:51):
But you never know.
Could have been.
I mean, we don't even know for sure it was a virus or it is a virus that's causing that
ear thing.
But, you know, hopefully it's...
I've never heard of something like that.
But then again, like something like COVID was never fathomable.
Yeah.
(21:11):
So, a couple of other things that I wanted to bring up in our little mini-soad here.
And because we weren't planning on having a sick episode, but here we are.
I had an experience today that is not sick related, but I just wanted your opinion on
(21:34):
it because it's a pet peeve of mine that I still don't know how to deal with.
But the long short is that I had to go into Walmart to get something.
It was time sensitive.
So I'm in a hurry.
And I'm also in a hurry in Walmart, which is already miserable.
(21:55):
And I go all the way back to the electronics area where a man abruptly kind of like cuts
me off and gets in front of me.
But he starts going like, whoa, sweet shoes.
And I was like, what?
And he goes, I love your shoes.
And I'm going, okay, thanks.
And he goes, oh my God, whoa.
Dude, your eyes, are they blue?
(22:17):
They're almost like purple.
And I'm like, what?
What the fuck is up with this guy?
And he goes, hey, let me ask you a question.
Who's your service provider?
I'm like, no, no, no, God, God, come on.
So...
Got him.
Especially...
I mean, I'm already in a hurry and I already hate this.
(22:38):
The feeling it gives me is I want to be like Robert Stack in airplane.
This is my second airplane reference in one episode.
When he's beating the shit out of all of the hand-me-out people at the airport, that's
what I want.
I want to just somehow know martial arts and start beating up all of these solicitors
that are in my way and just get to the item and get out of this damn Walmart.
(23:03):
And I'm at the Chapatulis Walmart, which for anyone in New Orleans knows it's the worst
Walmart.
So, hey, so I locked up because the guy just hit stun me with a left hook, basically, with
the weirdness and asking me about my eyes.
Like what the...
That's how I got ya.
I don't know.
(23:23):
I didn't even know how to handle that properly.
So I was just going like, look, man, I'm really in a hurry.
I was like, well, good, because this doesn't take long.
I'm like, stop having an answer for everything.
Like I'm trying to not be mean and you're really making fun.
So my question is how do you try to handle yourself when you get blindsided by this kind
(23:45):
of solicitation and you're in a hurry?
Because I'm just kind of at a loss and I end up being rude because I don't know what else
to do.
And then I'm mad for the next hour because I'm like, this is not on you.
You made me do this.
So how do you handle those things?
Yeah, that's a tough one.
(24:08):
If I'm holding my phone, it's easier, right?
Because if you're holding your phone, you can be like, oh, I'm on the phone.
And then just pretend like you have somebody on speakerphone, right?
And then just continue your conversation.
Just bring the phone back up here.
I've pulled that off a couple of times before.
(24:31):
Just kind of like, oh, hey, yeah, yeah.
So what is it that you need now?
You need a cell phone battery?
Okay.
Yeah.
Do you hold up the finger?
Sorry.
I have held up the finger.
That makes me happy.
(24:55):
Or what I've done more often is just kind of like point at it.
Just been like, oh, sorry, I'm on the phone.
So I think we're going to attempt to post this to YouTube.
And in the comments, that's the question that I'd like people to give an answer to is, how
(25:19):
do you handle unwanted solicitation when you're blindsided by it?
I think that would be fun to see what people say.
Curse all you want.
I don't care.
And also we can segue with that to say we're on the hunt for a help with content creation
(25:39):
for anyone listening that might be savvy with that or know someone that might be savvy with
that to be interested.
And if you like our podcast, we would like to be more accessible for all of you and the
masses.
And so where we need help is getting our content out to our social medias and stuff because
(26:02):
it is a little overwhelming when you're not used to it and haven't done it.
And that's why we are embarrassingly behind on that kind of stuff.
So if anyone listening, you can email us film full core podcast at gmail.com.
You can go to one of our socials and send a message.
We will get the message eventually.
(26:25):
Maybe not as fast as the email, but we'll get it eventually.
And that's something that would be really cool and helpful, even if it was maybe tutorials
because as Zoe has said, we're all very old except for her.
So we need a young to teach us all this new digital age.
(26:48):
But yeah, that would be great.
And we're going to put this out as a little experiment.
You can look at our ugly mugs.
Well, Justin's handsome, I'm not.
But I think to that, this is our little test run of a mini episode.
Justin, any final thoughts to our mini-sode?
(27:12):
No final thoughts.
I do have a shout out really quick.
We got our second review on Apple podcast.
Yeah.
I'd like to shout out, Suze has big hair.
What kind of big hair are we talking about?
Beehive or?
(27:33):
I love it.
I'm curious.
Yeah, anyone.
Is this 80s Dolly or what are we talking about here?
Pompadour.
Yeah.
What does Suze have to say?
Suze has big hair, says, so happy my forever friend, Libra for Justice.
(27:57):
Shout out Libra for Justice there.
Told me about y'all, I'm her sidekick.
Keep entertaining us, nothing but love.
Thanks so much, Suze has big hair.
Thank you, Suze has big hair.
Can we somehow tether all of our reviews?
(28:19):
Can someone that is associated with Suze has big hair make a review?
And then chains in that manner, that would be the most pointless delight you could offer
us.
And even if you don't know Suze has big hair, the next person that reviews this has to shout
out Suze has big hair.
Yeah, I like that system.
(28:41):
It's passing a torch, so to speak.
Well, thank you everyone for listening and watching, I guess, for those who are watching.
And apologies for my background.
And we'll be back next week theoretically with less sick people unless everyone else
is healthy and then Justin and I are sick.
And we'll be in a new boat.
(29:02):
So fingers crossed.
Thanks everybody.
Alright, thanks.
Bye.
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