December 13, 2024 • 42 mins
Lions and tigers and bears, oh my!! It’s season 2, and we’re back ready to bring you another season of entertainment and knowledge as we continue our journey behind the camera. Please enjoy as Zoe, Justin, and Jed make fun of Chris and Joe, recap the summer, and tease at some gems coming down the pipeline. Don’t forget to hit that subscribe button and thanks for joining us for season 2 of the Film Folk Lore Podcast!
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Hello film friends, friends of film and everyone in between.
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Welcome to our season two kickoff episode.
Welcome back Zoe Props.
Hello.
Welcome back Justin Sound.
Hi.
Welcome back the chair where Joe would sit.
Hello.
And Chris right out of the gate, last second, texted that he couldn't make it.
Zoe, what did that text say?
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Ebola.
It's pretty tragic.
Yeah, I feel really bad.
It's his fourth bout of Ebola too I think.
That dude cannot get away from Ebola.
Well, it mutates and stuff and we've got to figure out vaccines and he's having a hard time.
He needs to stop hanging out with those monkeys.
Is that where Ebola comes from?
(00:54):
Sure, why not?
I think he's like spinning around.
It's like a poop thing.
Oh, is it?
I think so.
He's got some kind of pooping problem.
You're listening to medical chat with three people with no experience whatsoever.
I think it's a poop thing.
All right, fair.
Like a pink eye, but for everything.
For everything.
It's usually a poop thing.
(01:18):
Yeah, I was trying to get a handle on where Joe is currently.
The only thing I was able to figure out is that he had come home the entire time that we were not recording.
The moment I say, hey, we're about to record again, boom, he's gone.
He joins some kind of like a lost ship of souls called like the SS Noir.
And he just, I mean, honestly, I'm a little jealous to be honest.
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But hopefully he'll be the prodigal son returns.
We'll see.
Yeah, maybe the soul has come back.
There's a lot of fog in that story.
He's not in a bowl of ship.
Oh, it's all making sense now.
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So let's see.
How is your summers?
Did you all have a good vacation time?
I worked a summer.
Yay.
And then did it.
Yeah.
What Zoe's referring to is sort of how things are right now in the industry.
We'll get into a little bit here in a bit, but we're going to stay positive.
How was your summer, Chad?
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I'm just going to say I still have managed to not pull from my retirement.
So I call it a win.
I tried to and then I couldn't figure it out.
It's a very, very easy summer.
It's a very, very easy 24 step process.
Let's see.
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So I thought something that maybe fun we could do to sort of kick off the rust.
But don't worry.
We'll get to that subject later.
I want to do a little game of sorts as we like to do sometimes in our openers.
So I gave you a little bit of a preface for this, but for people listening,
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there's a movie from, let's see, 1986 called FX.
It's a pretty absurd movie.
It's somehow still watchable because it's just bizarre.
But essentially it's like a popular special effects man,
which is part of the comical part.
He's like the most popular guy on set.
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And it's like, when is that?
Anyway.
Yeah, those freaks.
The actors are coming up to him and being like, great job today.
I thought you meant like well known, like in the media.
Oh, no, no, no.
Just on set.
Can we do this?
Can we watch the trailer?
Oh, yeah.
I love that idea.
Raleigh Tyler is an FX man, the movie's master of make believe.
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He can show you a thousand ways to die.
Cut.
Cut.
Great special effects.
But now somebody wants Raleigh Tyler to do it for real.
We want to stage a fake assassination, Raleigh, and we want you to supervise it.
Who's the we?
Justice Department.
I'm a special effects man.
I deal in make believe.
I'd like to keep it like that.
We just thought that we might be able to utilize your particular genius to help us out.
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And what if someone takes a shot at me?
You are 100% protected.
I give you my word.
That job that guy wanted me to do?
I think I'll do it.
But someone else is writing the script and casting him as the killer.
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We haven't done anything.
What if he put in real bullets?
Is he the weapon or the victim?
Is it murder or is it FX?
Hell yeah.
They shoot the script.
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It reminded me of the Simpsons bark.
Ruff.
Ruff.
Ruff.
Oh, I'm just a special effects guy.
Yeah, he's also an Aussie, which is like, what are these things you're going?
Yeah, I mean, nothing.
Sure, anybody can be an effects guy.
I just wasn't ready for that the first time.
You just kind of shake your head like, yeah, OK.
Sure, yeah.
Yeah, good special effects.
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Have you ever heard a director say that after cut?
I was going to say, have you ever heard any director applaud your department publicly in front of everyone?
I mean, actually, yeah, a couple of times when they see you and feel bad.
Oh, yeah, like a really rough food scene or something.
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Yes, literally, exactly.
OK, let's give it up for props, they really came through today, you know, like after you yelled us for five hours.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But yeah, this movie, that's one of the comical things about it is that the guy is weirdly popular inside of that universe.
And like, I just think of any crew member.
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I can't think of any crew member situation where the cast, the director, the producers, everyone's just coming by, patting them on the back like, hey, man, like great job again, as usual.
You know, I know what to expect from this guy.
If you're the best in the industry, you're not getting applauded on set.
It doesn't it doesn't matter how good you are.
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It's just that's not how it works.
Yeah, I know you came to do the job.
Of course.
Yeah, do good.
Like in handing out trophies, handing out movies to special effects guys.
So I wanted I wanted us to kind of put our heads together and and think up just not we don't have to go into great detail.
But if if there was a Hollywood movie about our departments, what would that movie be or what would the story be essentially?
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I'd like to get framed in the story that.
Just like that guy.
Just like that guy. I want his exact story.
Or maybe we can be spies.
I feel like we would be very gadgety, you know, like like data from Goonies kind of situation.
Yeah, like we would just have a lot of trinkets and stuff.
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Yeah.
Sorry, what was that?
I'm gonna get high.
I think our departments would kind of go hand in hand in that in that sense as far as, you know, like a little wireless microphone.
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Oh, definitely some surveillance from sound.
Yeah, surveillance stuff.
You definitely need that.
You need a van.
You definitely would.
You would be at that the operating table in the van.
I mean, well, I want that in real life.
Yeah.
It needs to it also let's see, would you prefer a fake company van like a plumber's van kind of situation or would you rather like a 70s van that also looks conspicuous at this point?
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I vote plumbers.
But yeah, definitely, definitely some kind of plumbers.
I don't know if I would choose plumbers specifically.
Or if I did, it would have a funny name.
Yeah, you're explaining all technical stuff and we're like, speaking English.
You know what I mean?
What do you mean, egghead?
There's a Simpsons reference.
Grab me a paperclip.
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Well, the definitions of this.
The van outside of their house says Flowers by Irene.
And then it's replaced by an ice cream truck, but the ice cream dish is clearly a satellite.
Yeah.
And Chris and Joe obviously aren't here.
I was also trying to think like what would be a story that involve ADs.
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And I was really struggling with that one.
Something that corrals people in an organized manner.
I don't know.
If I could get these people to line up and I can tell them where to go to safety, maybe.
Yeah.
You need your skills.
Lots of paperwork.
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These fire exits might be blocked or the fire lane might be blocked.
Maybe it would be more of like a taken kind of story.
This particular set of skills and particular connections to certain people.
Yeah, I like that one the best.
It definitely needs to be a taken situation.
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I also just imagine.
Wait, for ADs or for?
For ADs.
For ADs, yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Because we have a particular set of skills.
Yeah.
Yeah.
If Lee of Neeson found his daughter in an Excel spreadsheet.
I can't figure out the formula.
She didn't clock out.
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Why did I not get an out time for my own daughter?
I don't know how that applies in a story, but sure.
I knew that'd be worth some laughs.
All right.
So let's see.
What's been going on since we last recorded?
I mean, most importantly, if you haven't listened to it yet, we did a summer mini series for fun called Yo Adrian.
(10:29):
Where Justin, myself and friends of the podcast, Heather, Ray and Tony did a deep dive through the entire Rocky and Creed franchises.
Go check that out if you haven't yet.
And let's see what else.
Our industry continues to be in a production turmoil, I guess I'm going to call it.
We are experiencing projects outsourcing overseas.
(10:52):
That was a little from left field.
No one's expecting that.
Let's see.
I got the Russ trial took a surprising conclusion and somehow it still won't die.
I mean, it'll be in litigation forever.
And I got text messages from a certain someone connected to all of that.
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But I'll have to figure out what I can and cannot say in regards to all that.
Alec Baldwin texts you too?
Yeah.
He was telling me he got a teardrop tattoo.
I thought that was in poor taste.
And that joke was in poor taste.
Anyway.
So all the final dots on the I's and crosses on the T's were done with the last of the union contract negotiations.
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So all that got done.
There was an orange man got reelected.
We saw that.
He's putting together a cabinet that is sort of reminding me of Nero's war council.
Yeah, speaking of clown shoes.
I'm waiting for a horse to get appointed.
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We're officially in that direction now.
Yeah, we're going to have a Hamburglar.
You know what?
Don't blame me.
I voted for the Hamburglar.
They'll get bigger boards with bigger nails.
Yeah.
And then here in Louisiana, our governor was able to ensure that the Ten Commandments could be mandatory in all state classrooms.
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And that, as we now know, is more important and pressing than budget, poverty, industry, jobs, welfare, retirement, tax reform, education, infrastructure, public health,
and everything else we normally expect from our leadership.
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So that was great.
I love the Ten Commandments.
Oh, and let's not forget, fuck the homeless.
That was more than ten, Jed.
Oh, yeah.
Sorry.
That was a what was it?
Thou shalt not talk about the governor.
So of all of that, did I miss anything?
Is there anything else over the summer break?
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Taylor Swift came in town.
Oh, yeah.
They did clean up all the homeless.
They moved the homeless to get them out of the, get that eyesore out of the way so that the Swifties won't be offended, I guess, or Taylor won't be sad before her show.
I don't know how that works.
Did you go to the show?
No.
No.
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I didn't get tickets.
I heard.
I went.
You tried.
I did.
Well, I was at a bar.
They were doing like a trivia thing and I'm with Ross and I was like, let's try to win tickets.
We we fucking lost.
I turns out I know nothing about Taylor Swift.
I fucking cheated.
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I cheated.
I'm on record.
Ross not helpful.
I'm like, can you at least name like an ex boyfriend?
Nothing.
So I lost miserably.
And I so I did not get.
I would definitely lose that.
Yeah.
So yeah, I didn't even place.
That was the worst category I've ever had that I got a zero out of 10, including bonus or zero out of 12 or whatever.
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And it was a fashion category.
And with those flip flops.
I know.
Yeah.
These are Javi Anas, baby.
But it's like every single question, the guys I was with, none of us are fashion people, of course.
And then we're every question we're going, I don't know, Chanel.
What's the what's the leathery bag one of Louis Louis Vuitton?
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That one. Let's do that one.
And then we're wrong.
Every time we're wrong, we're just able to just able to name random words from fashion.
And every time it like it might be right on another question.
So we're like, oh, yeah.
See, it was a thing.
That was a very miserable day.
I'm assuming you got what?
At least two.
Right.
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I got a few again.
Four. I cheated, dog.
Like I cheated my ass off, but I didn't want to cheat too much because I felt like it would look obvious.
That you're a Swifty.
No, no, that I don't know.
They were like really specific questions.
I think other people were cheating.
I lost. I had no help.
I know someone that was able to get tickets and take their daughter to a daughter and her friend to the show.
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They spent something like five hundred dollars, which is actually kind of cheap considering.
Yeah, but that's not bad.
But when they got to their spot, they were on the back side.
So the stage was partially obstructing their view because they were, of course, plenty of people paid for behind the stage tickets.
Yeah.
And a friend of mine got tickets for fifty bucks, like one something.
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Other people were playing a thousand like I get like I if I was rich, I'd go for the spectacle.
It's fun.
Girlie Pops having fun.
But no, I'm not going to pay a fucking grand.
I would hawk that ticket in a heartbeat.
For you, five grand because I like you.
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Let's see.
What else? What else?
Oh, I should also throw out there because I've heard this from some people who have texted me from out of state.
Yes, our incentive program is still alive and intact despite some rumors.
They did lower the cap from, I believe, one hundred eighty million to one hundred twenty five million, which might be a bummer if there was work.
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But plenty of cap room.
Yeah, not a problem right now.
And yeah, it's coast to coast, Canada, U.S.
It's been rough.
We're going to have a guest on our first guest of the season who's going to kind of deep dive that with us.
And I just kind of want to tease it out for the moment.
(16:58):
But let's push us along.
I want to reflect on season one like the memories.
It's almost like it's it's the live Academy Awards and they're taking us back, you know, giving us those nostalgic.
Are you going to edit in some kind of montage thing?
I could. So some more music, something awards music like when they reintroduce everybody at the end of like Survivor or something.
(17:26):
Yeah. I want a black and white slow motion thing.
Even though we've never recorded.
We're going to get there one day.
You just gave me the idea that old cheesy intros that some shows used to do where people maybe have their back to camera and then they're turning as if they didn't know the cameras there and they're like,
(17:48):
anywhere you go. Yeah, exactly.
Exactly. Hey, you.
Mine was Saturday. I was thinking more of a black and white Sarah McLaughlin thing.
In the eyes of an angel.
Do you remember?
That's my kids, big Toy Story fans.
And I think it's what Toy Story 2 where Jesse gets introduced and there's a Sarah McLaughlin song that plays and it's like giving you this flashback about how she used to be a popular toy.
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Then the girl grew up and now she's like under a bed.
And it's every time when that when that comes on, I'm like, oh, no, not the Sarah McLaughlin.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, maybe we'll do that for Joe.
Yeah.
Do you remember me? I think the only way we can get away with that one is if we sing it.
That's probably true.
Although no one's come after us yet. Yeah, that's true.
(18:41):
We definitely got away with some stuff on the budget.
We're just we're trying to push it at this point.
I dare you to pay attention to it.
So what were some things that we did in season one that that you all liked, whether it was maybe there was a guest that you particularly liked or maybe a segment or one of our formats of episodes?
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What would you say? Bob Marley.
Still laughing about Bob Marley.
I am and anything that Val Kilmer. What was that? Fuck that movie.
Island of Dr. Morose. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
I don't know any of that.
Still haven't watched it.
(19:29):
Neither have I. But I think about it.
I'm like, what the fuck?
If you ever do see it, you're going to go, is this where he burned the cigarette on the hair of the of the second AC?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oddly enough, I was at a party last night and Val Kilmer kept up in conversation because we were saying like, I think we haven't said it in the episode, but just how that guy came out fired out of a cannon like Top Secret, Real Genius.
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I think Top Gun was like his fourth movie ever.
And, you know, by the time you're hitting like Willow and then you're getting to 1993, just his ego was just at max.
The guy had just been, you know, as it should have been Willow ruled.
Willow, Mad Martigan. Mad Martigan.
And he ended up, Sorsha was his real wife.
(20:16):
Yeah.
Set love, those always last.
Yeah, if you don't have a crush on Mad Martigan or Sorsha, then yeah.
Yeah.
Was it Esmeralda, the old witch lady?
I don't remember.
I had a crush on her.
Justin, what about you?
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Yeah, I really enjoyed the legendary lore episodes as well.
Got one coming out.
I have a story about one.
It was for the one we did.
It was, hmm, I'm blanking on the title.
I also didn't watch it.
It's the one about the lions.
Oh, Ghost in the Darkness.
(21:05):
I never would have remembered that name.
Lion.
The one about the lions.
Still don't know which one's ghost, which one's dark.
The Lion King.
So we recorded that episode and I saved it to edit later.
(21:26):
And somehow the media card that I recorded it onto ended up back in a recorder that I was using for a job that I was working.
And so I worked that job.
I did a couple days and sent my media card off to the editors.
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And so the editor called me a few days later and said he really enjoyed the episode.
Wait, that's hilarious, man.
That's how we get the show out.
Oh, did I send that?
Well, he just sat in there and was like, well, I got to listen to all of this.
Just in case something, I don't really know how it works.
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He saw Ghost in the Darkness when he was a lot younger and he enjoyed the movie.
And so he started listening to the episode and just kind of didn't know what it was at first.
And then started, as we get into it, I guess figured it out and just ended up listening to the whole thing.
That's hilarious.
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That's cool.
Yeah, thank you for listening.
I think that movie was on the other day like in Pals.
It was some like lion movie and some kind of drama was bumming me out.
It was The Lion King.
So shout out BJ, editor.
Shout out BJ, thank you.
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Yeah, they clearly put some kind of fake blood on the lion.
He's like sedated, you know what I mean?
Supposed to be dead, but looks like, you know what I mean?
The sound wasn't up.
It's just like, huh.
That's sometimes I think it was that because I mean how many fucking live lion movies are I don't know actually.
It's a fair question.
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I mean, a dozen.
I can't imagine there's a lot.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's something.
Also at Pals, which is a neighborhood bar that is very popular.
They don't really like play sports on the TV.
I see it very rarely there.
It's always like some old movie.
And sometimes it'll be funny because it kind of like what you were saying.
(23:43):
You'll see something where you're like, do I know what that is?
But because the sounds off, you're also not getting great context.
And so like each time maybe you look up and you're like, what the fuck is going on in this movie?
Like it just if you don't know and you're not paying full attention and they like to put some weird stuff on there.
They don't always have the subtitles on.
Oh, yeah.
You're just watching like, I wonder what they're saying.
(24:05):
I think the first time I ever saw that Japanese movie was Ichi the Killer, I think is the name of it.
It's a cult film now, but it's you just have to see it.
It's definitely a movie.
It's definitely a movie and it's definitely bizarre.
It's very bizarre.
And to go with what I'm saying, it's one of those things that if you just kind of look at it on occasion, each time you're just getting more confused.
(24:30):
Like I have no idea what's happening here.
What's it called? Ichi the Killer?
Ichi the Killer is the English title.
Cool.
Yeah, it's good.
If you like weird, it's sort of campy.
It's violent.
It involves gang kind of activity.
What about it?
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Why are we talking about this?
I don't know.
We're the same way here.
Yeah, I didn't need to go into that kind of detail.
What about this movie?
I was just trying to say, hey, it's weird if you see it on a TV at Palace.
Okay, got it, got it, got it.
And then you're like, what's it about?
I'm like, okay.
Movies are weird.
(25:13):
Let me try to recap.
That was quite a while ago.
Anyway, yeah, I think for me, I love doing the Find the Fake Movie titles with you all.
I just get joy watching you all try to ponder what of these absurd options is actually a real one, which is not.
(25:35):
And it's also fun to go look up those titles and things because how else would I find Killer Manatee, for example, which was a fun one from last season,
and a movie we should really find and watch talking about things to watch.
But yeah, and Chris, Joe, what do you all think? No, never mind.
(25:56):
So keeping us moving along and kind of highlighting teasers for the season.
Did you all pay any attention to the Baldwin trial when it happened?
Or you all just kind of like, eh, whatever, I'm over it.
I watched the SNL episode he was on.
Which is like Cliff Notes.
Yeah.
(26:17):
And it was happening. It was. And I don't know. I think my memory is bad now.
I'm bad at thinking.
So I think I did then forgot everything.
I just remember the day that it was like he was. Yeah. Yeah.
Where is it exonerated? Yeah.
Very abruptly ended. I don't think anybody saw that coming.
(26:39):
And now, of course, there's we'll get into it later, but there's all this like new filing, refiling.
DA just keeps looking worse and worse.
I love those files. Yeah. A lot of paperwork.
And then that's what our movie would be about. Paper. Props. Yeah.
It would just be clipboards. Yeah.
(27:01):
Oh, yeah. Clipboard might be the number one prop.
When we were on NCIS, we used to joke that the C stands for clipboard.
The directors clapping. Wow. Good job. Props. That's a great clipboard.
Actually, you bring up something that's kind of funny for people listening.
If you start paying attention to little things like that in modern shows,
(27:24):
we are very much in the world of tablets, iPads and all that.
But in TV, you will still find old school paperwork on a clipboard with a dude with a pen or pencil.
And we're not really in that universe anymore, but we still do it.
Someone's got to be walking by with a clipboard or files.
That's just. Oftentimes, our news cameras are more dated than actual news cameras now.
(27:49):
There's little things like that that people usually just you're not paying attention to something like that.
Or as we usually say, if you are paying attention, then you're not watching the movie.
Yeah. But I mean, there's a thought that it might be a little bit easier to go analog. Right.
Yeah. From a camera standpoint. Yes. You know, those guys can deal with it.
(28:11):
Yeah, that's the thing. I mean, you look in the background of your life, people are just walking around.
They're not carrying shit. Right. Yeah. It's either in their ear or on their face.
Yeah. I go for walks with my hands in my pocket and I'm not not fucking care. Oh, yeah. But sure. Yeah.
There's a TV part in the park now.
We did a TV pilot that was supposed to be in, I guess, like Virginia Beach, Virginia.
(28:34):
And and it's a bar. And they kept saying, like, more drinks, more drinks.
And we got background people there entering and leaving the bar.
And I'm like, you know, we're supposed to be in Virginia. Like, people can't walk around with drinks.
You know, it's not New Orleans. And and the first day I hear him in my ear going, hey, props, more drinks, more drinks.
(28:55):
And and finally, I'm like calling back. I'm going, are you sure?
And then I guess I don't know if I was on an open radio or what, but I hear that this director who's such an ass.
But I hear him just in the distance going, I said more drinks.
And you're like, she's crying drinks in everyone's hands. Here we go.
And so we put 100 percent drinks in every single hand of every person in there in the most illogical of ways.
(29:19):
And it's that thing like this is what you want. All right, fine. Here you go.
I'm you're the only one ever that's asked for this. But sure, here you go. Yeah.
Every single person. Yeah. But you know better than everyone else.
So everyone's got two drinks. Yeah. Oh, my God.
If if I had the comedy in my head playing in real life, they're like, there's somebody just cradling drinks.
(29:45):
Somebody's pouring multiple drinks into one bigger glass.
These people are alcoholics. They've got like the around telling everybody be drunk.
Drunker. I got like the beer can with the little head thing. What the hell was called?
Beer ears. Yes. Beers. Foam dome. They have a bunch of nicknames.
(30:09):
I've always wanted one of those. Everybody's always wanted one of those.
Or or a a nacho hat. Yeah, not.
Yeah, I mean, it could get messy. I don't want to wear that fucking thing, but I would eat a nacho hat on a table.
You're not eating cheese and chips off of someone's fucking hand.
I have to remember if I ever have a catered party, my own head, especially my own head, because I can't even see what I'm having.
(30:35):
You break something off. You got cheese oozing down your eyeball.
Come on. No, I'll have caterers walk around the party and then you as guests are picking up.
I if I'm eating a nacho hat off of someone's head, they better be just hairless.
You know what I mean? Shave, eyebrows, everything. Polished bald.
(30:56):
Yeah. Yeah, dude. You never know. So those are my no eyelashes either.
And that's all we have to say about rust. So.
I mean, that that thing will be in litigation for years. So we're going to I'll tease out.
We're going to do one more episode, tie a bow on it and move on.
I was surprised that this coming episode is only going to be our third time covering it.
(31:21):
It feels like it's our sixth time doing it. But we're talking about it now.
This is basically a rust episode. There you go. All right.
And now I got to go back and change that before. All right. Oh, well.
So talking a little bit about what's happening with the industry, as I mentioned,
our kickoff guest for the season is going to we're going to go into more depth with them about it.
(31:45):
But I just want to kind of highlight a little bit of what we know and don't know of what's going on right now.
And inside of our industry, we had what was being referred to as contraction.
So after the strikes, there were all these layoffs above the line, all these producer exec people at all the studios and streamers.
(32:09):
And they were basically consolidating their world to kind of streamline and get back to a better profit world,
because apparently they were not profiting very much with all that work coming out of the pandemic.
So we were being told you could hear people talking about like expect things to kind of get back to 2019 level of production is what you would hear.
(32:31):
And what we're experiencing now is there's a lot of outsourcing happening and a lot of projects are suddenly going overseas.
The last thing I just did was probably like 60 percent shot overseas and 40 percent shot here.
And it was very problematic. Customs, especially, was a big issue.
(32:53):
And I'll tease that out because I have a funny story, but I'll save it for the interview.
It involves s'mores. But it's there's just a lot of difficult stuff going on.
And it doesn't matter what production city you're in. Everyone is feeling it right now. And that's unfortunate.
(33:14):
We're all wanting to get past that. And we're all going to try and stay positive because we don't want to bring in the room down.
So that's enough about that. But we're hoping things are going to take a turn.
We're looking forward to our guests. Maybe they can give us a little hope moving forward.
And let's see other teasers before we get out of here. Let's see.
(33:39):
We're going to, of course, have more legendary lures. We got one coming up right away.
That's I this is something we sort of tipped out around it.
I don't know why I wasn't telling you all ahead of time what these movies were to give you a chance to watch the movie.
That's why. Yeah, dude. This was the first one that I was like, I should let him know that this is what we're going to do.
(34:00):
And then and then sure enough, you all went and actually tried to watch it. Novel.
Right. Hey, you know what?
I appreciate the effort that I didn't even know was there.
We're going to have more of our we were calling it tea time at the rumor mill.
We'll get into more of those. Of course, we're going to have more interviews.
(34:23):
We have a couple of new segments that we're dishing around.
We're going to do some roundtable discussions.
I actually was thinking because we haven't really had too much talk about our own departments.
We did get to sound a little bit when we had Donovan on, which I really like that episode.
But I was thinking, oh, maybe we could just do an episode where like we bring like two random prop people in and we'll actually have like a prop conversation, a proper conversation.
(34:53):
Whoa. Never heard that before. But and then and and the last thing I have on here, I must have been tired.
So when I was typing this, I'm just like an asshole.
Listen, because you're about to laugh at what I what I wrote.
And the last thing I have on here, I just say and more.
(35:15):
We're like lack wax lips. The candy of a thousand pieces.
Brilliant. Such as well, one, it's a hilarious replacement for your own lips.
Keep going. What? Oh, that's my lunch break.
So just kind of I'm going to close this out and then I'll turn it back to you all for a second.
(35:40):
We're going to be here doing this with our industry friends and colleagues as long as we can until either we get a cease and desist letter from some thing we didn't have rights to play.
We're definitely dancing on some music things, teasing out, you know, Adrian.
And Zoe is going to talk to you all here in a second.
(36:01):
But I just wanted to throw out that we want to continue to educate the public where we can.
We want to answer your questions. We want to read your thoughts on a future recording, not read your minds.
We want to voice your complaints if you got them.
Hear your crew stories. We want all of it.
Even if your question is, how can I be in your movie?
Or if your question is, what's a movie you've worked on that I would know?
(36:25):
That's my personal favorite question. Or even what's a movie?
Yeah, what's a movie? You guys have been talking for a long time and I still don't know.
You have yet to say what a movie is. And you know what?
And that's on us. That special effects guy though.
Why can't I be more like that guy? He sure is popular.
(36:47):
Great crew. This is going to be a great movie.
At the end of the day, I think we all still just want our t-shirt and the cash bar at the wrap party.
It occurred to me one day that it's kind of crazy we don't even get a copy of what we work on.
(37:12):
In my mind, that's actually probably the most fair gift.
Of course, it would have to be months and months down the line and everything.
But that'd be cool if in your mail one day you're like, oh look, it's that piece of shit I worked on.
Yeah, it would not be nice.
One day, my goal is to actually have everything I worked on on a shelf.
(37:33):
So I can actually see the 10% of good that I did.
The large amount of everything else.
I can't remember if I said it on Jimmy's Jimmy locations.
He's the one that said it to me. I can't remember if I said it on air or not.
But when I first met him, he said, I was just a PA, and he said, you'll be lucky if one out of 10 things you work on is any good.
(38:02):
And all these years later, it's actually kind of true. It works out to about one out of 10.
If you're lucky, you might be able to get to one out of eight.
You're doing really well if that's happening.
Because even like, I'll just use props, but even like big time prop masters,
yeah, they might be working on gigantic movies, but maybe the movies like Jupiter Rising or something like that,
(38:24):
that ends up being a flop. Just because it's large doesn't mean it's guaranteed to be good.
A lot of times, there's tax write-offs.
And also, it doesn't matter if it's a flop for us.
You know what I mean? We're not the actors or whatever.
We get paid either way.
I don't give a shit.
Yeah. And regardless, it's fun for us to see most of the time.
Yeah.
It definitely triggers a lot of random memories of when you're working on something.
(38:48):
That's actually, you bring up actually a good thing.
That's a sign that something you worked on was good, is if you can watch it and you find yourself enjoying the story
and not noticing the background or that day.
Or they told me to do this, this looks like shit on camera.
I hate that milk carton. Why do they make me use that milk carton?
I look like a hack now because somebody asked for this dumb ass shit.
(39:12):
I'm anticipating a stressful day. Like anticipating having to see that on screen.
Yeah.
It ends up being fine.
Yeah. There's just been one thing that I'm like, ah, halfway through. I was like, I can't fucking watch this.
I can't, I can't do it. It's like, I'm like stressed out, like horrible flashbacks.
Like I don't want to do this. I feel bad about myself now.
(39:36):
I'd have to actually like go look to put a number on it, but there's probably-
That's what a movie is.
Yeah. I feel bad about myself now.
Maybe if I had to guess, I don't know, maybe like somewhere between five and 10 things that I haven't seen by choice
because I'm sort of afraid to watch it because it was maybe a rough experience or something.
There is a handful of those kinds of shows that I'm like, oh, I don't need to relive that.
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Yeah. It just doesn't look good because somebody asked for some shit and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And you're like, oh, that looks bad on camera.
Oh, that's the worst is when you were forced to put something on camera and it's your name attached to it.
Yeah.
Yeah. That's the worst.
You're not proud of, you argued something different. Like, hey, all right. Yeah, sure.
So when we talked about the background guy that was sweeping air, there's somewhere that AD is really cringing for missing that one.
(40:30):
It's like, fuck, they mentioned it again. God damn it.
I miss the days of VHS when they couldn't really zoom in or not.
Yeah. Yeah.
Guys, that's actually another thing that's fun.
Older movies have all kinds of errors in them because it was just before we had to be hyper aware like we have to be now.
(40:52):
Because you'll often hear people on sets referring to the Internet nerds as, oh, we don't want to do that because Internet nerds will find it, you know, kind of thing.
Yeah. Yeah.
But there's like Linklater, he doesn't, I mean, he cares about continuity to a certain extent,
but he and I think Scorsese is another one that they're like, it's fine. The story is what's important.
(41:14):
Like, I don't care if it doesn't match, you know, kind of thing.
Yeah. I think at one point, like what point can you stop fighting the Internet nerds?
Oh, it's a losing battle.
Because they're overwhelming at this point.
Oh, yeah. And they're trolls, you know, so they're also looking to find something negative.
Yeah, most of us all make believe, dude, whatever.
Online Karens.
Yeah.
(41:37):
All right. Well, winding us down, I want to say thank you guys for being back.
Chris, I hope you get over your fourth bout of Ebola.
Joe, I hope your soul gets found and you're back with us soon.
And yeah, we're looking forward to having you guys around for season two.
And Zoe, why don't you tell these people what's up?
(41:59):
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Hello film friends, friends of film and everyone in between.
(00:12):
Welcome to our season two kickoff episode.
Welcome back Zoe Props.
Hello.
Welcome back Justin Sound.
Hi.
Welcome back the chair where Joe would sit.
Hello.
And Chris right out of the gate, last second, texted that he couldn't make it.
Zoe, what did that text say?
(00:33):
Ebola.
It's pretty tragic.
Yeah, I feel really bad.
It's his fourth bout of Ebola too I think.
That dude cannot get away from Ebola.
Well, it mutates and stuff and we've got to figure out vaccines and he's having a hard time.
He needs to stop hanging out with those monkeys.
Is that where Ebola comes from?
(00:54):
Sure, why not?
I think he's like spinning around.
It's like a poop thing.
Oh, is it?
I think so.
He's got some kind of pooping problem.
You're listening to medical chat with three people with no experience whatsoever.
I think it's a poop thing.
All right, fair.
Like a pink eye, but for everything.
For everything.
It's usually a poop thing.
(01:18):
Yeah, I was trying to get a handle on where Joe is currently.
The only thing I was able to figure out is that he had come home the entire time that we were not recording.
The moment I say, hey, we're about to record again, boom, he's gone.
He joins some kind of like a lost ship of souls called like the SS Noir.
And he just, I mean, honestly, I'm a little jealous to be honest.
(01:43):
But hopefully he'll be the prodigal son returns.
We'll see.
Yeah, maybe the soul has come back.
There's a lot of fog in that story.
He's not in a bowl of ship.
Oh, it's all making sense now.
(02:05):
So let's see.
How is your summers?
Did you all have a good vacation time?
I worked a summer.
Yay.
And then did it.
Yeah.
What Zoe's referring to is sort of how things are right now in the industry.
We'll get into a little bit here in a bit, but we're going to stay positive.
How was your summer, Chad?
(02:27):
I'm just going to say I still have managed to not pull from my retirement.
So I call it a win.
I tried to and then I couldn't figure it out.
It's a very, very easy summer.
It's a very, very easy 24 step process.
Let's see.
(02:51):
So I thought something that maybe fun we could do to sort of kick off the rust.
But don't worry.
We'll get to that subject later.
I want to do a little game of sorts as we like to do sometimes in our openers.
So I gave you a little bit of a preface for this, but for people listening,
(03:12):
there's a movie from, let's see, 1986 called FX.
It's a pretty absurd movie.
It's somehow still watchable because it's just bizarre.
But essentially it's like a popular special effects man,
which is part of the comical part.
He's like the most popular guy on set.
(03:33):
And it's like, when is that?
Anyway.
Yeah, those freaks.
The actors are coming up to him and being like, great job today.
I thought you meant like well known, like in the media.
Oh, no, no, no.
Just on set.
Can we do this?
Can we watch the trailer?
Oh, yeah.
I love that idea.
Raleigh Tyler is an FX man, the movie's master of make believe.
(04:00):
He can show you a thousand ways to die.
Cut.
Cut.
Great special effects.
But now somebody wants Raleigh Tyler to do it for real.
We want to stage a fake assassination, Raleigh, and we want you to supervise it.
Who's the we?
Justice Department.
I'm a special effects man.
I deal in make believe.
I'd like to keep it like that.
We just thought that we might be able to utilize your particular genius to help us out.
(04:24):
And what if someone takes a shot at me?
You are 100% protected.
I give you my word.
That job that guy wanted me to do?
I think I'll do it.
But someone else is writing the script and casting him as the killer.
(04:46):
We haven't done anything.
What if he put in real bullets?
Is he the weapon or the victim?
Is it murder or is it FX?
Hell yeah.
They shoot the script.
(05:08):
It reminded me of the Simpsons bark.
Ruff.
Ruff.
Ruff.
Oh, I'm just a special effects guy.
Yeah, he's also an Aussie, which is like, what are these things you're going?
Yeah, I mean, nothing.
Sure, anybody can be an effects guy.
I just wasn't ready for that the first time.
You just kind of shake your head like, yeah, OK.
Sure, yeah.
Yeah, good special effects.
(05:29):
Have you ever heard a director say that after cut?
I was going to say, have you ever heard any director applaud your department publicly in front of everyone?
I mean, actually, yeah, a couple of times when they see you and feel bad.
Oh, yeah, like a really rough food scene or something.
(05:53):
Yes, literally, exactly.
OK, let's give it up for props, they really came through today, you know, like after you yelled us for five hours.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But yeah, this movie, that's one of the comical things about it is that the guy is weirdly popular inside of that universe.
And like, I just think of any crew member.
(06:17):
I can't think of any crew member situation where the cast, the director, the producers, everyone's just coming by, patting them on the back like, hey, man, like great job again, as usual.
You know, I know what to expect from this guy.
If you're the best in the industry, you're not getting applauded on set.
It doesn't it doesn't matter how good you are.
(06:39):
It's just that's not how it works.
Yeah, I know you came to do the job.
Of course.
Yeah, do good.
Like in handing out trophies, handing out movies to special effects guys.
So I wanted I wanted us to kind of put our heads together and and think up just not we don't have to go into great detail.
But if if there was a Hollywood movie about our departments, what would that movie be or what would the story be essentially?
(07:05):
I'd like to get framed in the story that.
Just like that guy.
Just like that guy. I want his exact story.
Or maybe we can be spies.
I feel like we would be very gadgety, you know, like like data from Goonies kind of situation.
Yeah, like we would just have a lot of trinkets and stuff.
(07:26):
Yeah.
Sorry, what was that?
I'm gonna get high.
I think our departments would kind of go hand in hand in that in that sense as far as, you know, like a little wireless microphone.
(07:47):
Oh, definitely some surveillance from sound.
Yeah, surveillance stuff.
You definitely need that.
You need a van.
You definitely would.
You would be at that the operating table in the van.
I mean, well, I want that in real life.
Yeah.
It needs to it also let's see, would you prefer a fake company van like a plumber's van kind of situation or would you rather like a 70s van that also looks conspicuous at this point?
(08:18):
I vote plumbers.
But yeah, definitely, definitely some kind of plumbers.
I don't know if I would choose plumbers specifically.
Or if I did, it would have a funny name.
Yeah, you're explaining all technical stuff and we're like, speaking English.
You know what I mean?
What do you mean, egghead?
There's a Simpsons reference.
Grab me a paperclip.
(08:41):
Well, the definitions of this.
The van outside of their house says Flowers by Irene.
And then it's replaced by an ice cream truck, but the ice cream dish is clearly a satellite.
Yeah.
And Chris and Joe obviously aren't here.
I was also trying to think like what would be a story that involve ADs.
(09:03):
And I was really struggling with that one.
Something that corrals people in an organized manner.
I don't know.
If I could get these people to line up and I can tell them where to go to safety, maybe.
Yeah.
You need your skills.
Lots of paperwork.
(09:25):
These fire exits might be blocked or the fire lane might be blocked.
Maybe it would be more of like a taken kind of story.
This particular set of skills and particular connections to certain people.
Yeah, I like that one the best.
It definitely needs to be a taken situation.
(09:46):
I also just imagine.
Wait, for ADs or for?
For ADs.
For ADs, yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Because we have a particular set of skills.
Yeah.
Yeah.
If Lee of Neeson found his daughter in an Excel spreadsheet.
I can't figure out the formula.
She didn't clock out.
(10:08):
Why did I not get an out time for my own daughter?
I don't know how that applies in a story, but sure.
I knew that'd be worth some laughs.
All right.
So let's see.
What's been going on since we last recorded?
I mean, most importantly, if you haven't listened to it yet, we did a summer mini series for fun called Yo Adrian.
(10:29):
Where Justin, myself and friends of the podcast, Heather, Ray and Tony did a deep dive through the entire Rocky and Creed franchises.
Go check that out if you haven't yet.
And let's see what else.
Our industry continues to be in a production turmoil, I guess I'm going to call it.
We are experiencing projects outsourcing overseas.
(10:52):
That was a little from left field.
No one's expecting that.
Let's see.
I got the Russ trial took a surprising conclusion and somehow it still won't die.
I mean, it'll be in litigation forever.
And I got text messages from a certain someone connected to all of that.
(11:13):
But I'll have to figure out what I can and cannot say in regards to all that.
Alec Baldwin texts you too?
Yeah.
He was telling me he got a teardrop tattoo.
I thought that was in poor taste.
And that joke was in poor taste.
Anyway.
So all the final dots on the I's and crosses on the T's were done with the last of the union contract negotiations.
(11:40):
So all that got done.
There was an orange man got reelected.
We saw that.
He's putting together a cabinet that is sort of reminding me of Nero's war council.
Yeah, speaking of clown shoes.
I'm waiting for a horse to get appointed.
(12:01):
We're officially in that direction now.
Yeah, we're going to have a Hamburglar.
You know what?
Don't blame me.
I voted for the Hamburglar.
They'll get bigger boards with bigger nails.
Yeah.
And then here in Louisiana, our governor was able to ensure that the Ten Commandments could be mandatory in all state classrooms.
(12:28):
And that, as we now know, is more important and pressing than budget, poverty, industry, jobs, welfare, retirement, tax reform, education, infrastructure, public health,
and everything else we normally expect from our leadership.
(12:49):
So that was great.
I love the Ten Commandments.
Oh, and let's not forget, fuck the homeless.
That was more than ten, Jed.
Oh, yeah.
Sorry.
That was a what was it?
Thou shalt not talk about the governor.
So of all of that, did I miss anything?
Is there anything else over the summer break?
(13:10):
Taylor Swift came in town.
Oh, yeah.
They did clean up all the homeless.
They moved the homeless to get them out of the, get that eyesore out of the way so that the Swifties won't be offended, I guess, or Taylor won't be sad before her show.
I don't know how that works.
Did you go to the show?
No.
No.
(13:31):
I didn't get tickets.
I heard.
I went.
You tried.
I did.
Well, I was at a bar.
They were doing like a trivia thing and I'm with Ross and I was like, let's try to win tickets.
We we fucking lost.
I turns out I know nothing about Taylor Swift.
I fucking cheated.
(13:52):
I cheated.
I'm on record.
Ross not helpful.
I'm like, can you at least name like an ex boyfriend?
Nothing.
So I lost miserably.
And I so I did not get.
I would definitely lose that.
Yeah.
So yeah, I didn't even place.
That was the worst category I've ever had that I got a zero out of 10, including bonus or zero out of 12 or whatever.
(14:20):
And it was a fashion category.
And with those flip flops.
I know.
Yeah.
These are Javi Anas, baby.
But it's like every single question, the guys I was with, none of us are fashion people, of course.
And then we're every question we're going, I don't know, Chanel.
What's the what's the leathery bag one of Louis Louis Vuitton?
(14:42):
That one. Let's do that one.
And then we're wrong.
Every time we're wrong, we're just able to just able to name random words from fashion.
And every time it like it might be right on another question.
So we're like, oh, yeah.
See, it was a thing.
That was a very miserable day.
I'm assuming you got what?
At least two.
Right.
(15:03):
I got a few again.
Four. I cheated, dog.
Like I cheated my ass off, but I didn't want to cheat too much because I felt like it would look obvious.
That you're a Swifty.
No, no, that I don't know.
They were like really specific questions.
I think other people were cheating.
I lost. I had no help.
I know someone that was able to get tickets and take their daughter to a daughter and her friend to the show.
(15:28):
They spent something like five hundred dollars, which is actually kind of cheap considering.
Yeah, but that's not bad.
But when they got to their spot, they were on the back side.
So the stage was partially obstructing their view because they were, of course, plenty of people paid for behind the stage tickets.
Yeah.
And a friend of mine got tickets for fifty bucks, like one something.
(15:50):
Other people were playing a thousand like I get like I if I was rich, I'd go for the spectacle.
It's fun.
Girlie Pops having fun.
But no, I'm not going to pay a fucking grand.
I would hawk that ticket in a heartbeat.
For you, five grand because I like you.
(16:11):
Let's see.
What else? What else?
Oh, I should also throw out there because I've heard this from some people who have texted me from out of state.
Yes, our incentive program is still alive and intact despite some rumors.
They did lower the cap from, I believe, one hundred eighty million to one hundred twenty five million, which might be a bummer if there was work.
(16:36):
But plenty of cap room.
Yeah, not a problem right now.
And yeah, it's coast to coast, Canada, U.S.
It's been rough.
We're going to have a guest on our first guest of the season who's going to kind of deep dive that with us.
And I just kind of want to tease it out for the moment.
(16:58):
But let's push us along.
I want to reflect on season one like the memories.
It's almost like it's it's the live Academy Awards and they're taking us back, you know, giving us those nostalgic.
Are you going to edit in some kind of montage thing?
I could. So some more music, something awards music like when they reintroduce everybody at the end of like Survivor or something.
(17:26):
Yeah. I want a black and white slow motion thing.
Even though we've never recorded.
We're going to get there one day.
You just gave me the idea that old cheesy intros that some shows used to do where people maybe have their back to camera and then they're turning as if they didn't know the cameras there and they're like,
(17:48):
anywhere you go. Yeah, exactly.
Exactly. Hey, you.
Mine was Saturday. I was thinking more of a black and white Sarah McLaughlin thing.
In the eyes of an angel.
Do you remember?
That's my kids, big Toy Story fans.
And I think it's what Toy Story 2 where Jesse gets introduced and there's a Sarah McLaughlin song that plays and it's like giving you this flashback about how she used to be a popular toy.
(18:19):
Then the girl grew up and now she's like under a bed.
And it's every time when that when that comes on, I'm like, oh, no, not the Sarah McLaughlin.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, maybe we'll do that for Joe.
Yeah.
Do you remember me? I think the only way we can get away with that one is if we sing it.
That's probably true.
Although no one's come after us yet. Yeah, that's true.
(18:41):
We definitely got away with some stuff on the budget.
We're just we're trying to push it at this point.
I dare you to pay attention to it.
So what were some things that we did in season one that that you all liked, whether it was maybe there was a guest that you particularly liked or maybe a segment or one of our formats of episodes?
(19:08):
What would you say? Bob Marley.
Still laughing about Bob Marley.
I am and anything that Val Kilmer. What was that? Fuck that movie.
Island of Dr. Morose. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
I don't know any of that.
Still haven't watched it.
(19:29):
Neither have I. But I think about it.
I'm like, what the fuck?
If you ever do see it, you're going to go, is this where he burned the cigarette on the hair of the of the second AC?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oddly enough, I was at a party last night and Val Kilmer kept up in conversation because we were saying like, I think we haven't said it in the episode, but just how that guy came out fired out of a cannon like Top Secret, Real Genius.
(19:55):
I think Top Gun was like his fourth movie ever.
And, you know, by the time you're hitting like Willow and then you're getting to 1993, just his ego was just at max.
The guy had just been, you know, as it should have been Willow ruled.
Willow, Mad Martigan. Mad Martigan.
And he ended up, Sorsha was his real wife.
(20:16):
Yeah.
Set love, those always last.
Yeah, if you don't have a crush on Mad Martigan or Sorsha, then yeah.
Yeah.
Was it Esmeralda, the old witch lady?
I don't remember.
I had a crush on her.
Justin, what about you?
(20:43):
Yeah, I really enjoyed the legendary lore episodes as well.
Got one coming out.
I have a story about one.
It was for the one we did.
It was, hmm, I'm blanking on the title.
I also didn't watch it.
It's the one about the lions.
Oh, Ghost in the Darkness.
(21:05):
I never would have remembered that name.
Lion.
The one about the lions.
Still don't know which one's ghost, which one's dark.
The Lion King.
So we recorded that episode and I saved it to edit later.
(21:26):
And somehow the media card that I recorded it onto ended up back in a recorder that I was using for a job that I was working.
And so I worked that job.
I did a couple days and sent my media card off to the editors.
(21:50):
And so the editor called me a few days later and said he really enjoyed the episode.
Wait, that's hilarious, man.
That's how we get the show out.
Oh, did I send that?
Well, he just sat in there and was like, well, I got to listen to all of this.
Just in case something, I don't really know how it works.
(22:14):
He saw Ghost in the Darkness when he was a lot younger and he enjoyed the movie.
And so he started listening to the episode and just kind of didn't know what it was at first.
And then started, as we get into it, I guess figured it out and just ended up listening to the whole thing.
That's hilarious.
(22:35):
That's cool.
Yeah, thank you for listening.
I think that movie was on the other day like in Pals.
It was some like lion movie and some kind of drama was bumming me out.
It was The Lion King.
So shout out BJ, editor.
Shout out BJ, thank you.
(22:57):
Yeah, they clearly put some kind of fake blood on the lion.
He's like sedated, you know what I mean?
Supposed to be dead, but looks like, you know what I mean?
The sound wasn't up.
It's just like, huh.
That's sometimes I think it was that because I mean how many fucking live lion movies are I don't know actually.
It's a fair question.
(23:19):
I mean, a dozen.
I can't imagine there's a lot.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's something.
Also at Pals, which is a neighborhood bar that is very popular.
They don't really like play sports on the TV.
I see it very rarely there.
It's always like some old movie.
And sometimes it'll be funny because it kind of like what you were saying.
(23:43):
You'll see something where you're like, do I know what that is?
But because the sounds off, you're also not getting great context.
And so like each time maybe you look up and you're like, what the fuck is going on in this movie?
Like it just if you don't know and you're not paying full attention and they like to put some weird stuff on there.
They don't always have the subtitles on.
Oh, yeah.
You're just watching like, I wonder what they're saying.
(24:05):
I think the first time I ever saw that Japanese movie was Ichi the Killer, I think is the name of it.
It's a cult film now, but it's you just have to see it.
It's definitely a movie.
It's definitely a movie and it's definitely bizarre.
It's very bizarre.
And to go with what I'm saying, it's one of those things that if you just kind of look at it on occasion, each time you're just getting more confused.
(24:30):
Like I have no idea what's happening here.
What's it called? Ichi the Killer?
Ichi the Killer is the English title.
Cool.
Yeah, it's good.
If you like weird, it's sort of campy.
It's violent.
It involves gang kind of activity.
What about it?
(24:51):
Why are we talking about this?
I don't know.
We're the same way here.
Yeah, I didn't need to go into that kind of detail.
What about this movie?
I was just trying to say, hey, it's weird if you see it on a TV at Palace.
Okay, got it, got it, got it.
And then you're like, what's it about?
I'm like, okay.
Movies are weird.
(25:13):
Let me try to recap.
That was quite a while ago.
Anyway, yeah, I think for me, I love doing the Find the Fake Movie titles with you all.
I just get joy watching you all try to ponder what of these absurd options is actually a real one, which is not.
(25:35):
And it's also fun to go look up those titles and things because how else would I find Killer Manatee, for example, which was a fun one from last season,
and a movie we should really find and watch talking about things to watch.
But yeah, and Chris, Joe, what do you all think? No, never mind.
(25:56):
So keeping us moving along and kind of highlighting teasers for the season.
Did you all pay any attention to the Baldwin trial when it happened?
Or you all just kind of like, eh, whatever, I'm over it.
I watched the SNL episode he was on.
Which is like Cliff Notes.
Yeah.
(26:17):
And it was happening. It was. And I don't know. I think my memory is bad now.
I'm bad at thinking.
So I think I did then forgot everything.
I just remember the day that it was like he was. Yeah. Yeah.
Where is it exonerated? Yeah.
Very abruptly ended. I don't think anybody saw that coming.
(26:39):
And now, of course, there's we'll get into it later, but there's all this like new filing, refiling.
DA just keeps looking worse and worse.
I love those files. Yeah. A lot of paperwork.
And then that's what our movie would be about. Paper. Props. Yeah.
It would just be clipboards. Yeah.
(27:01):
Oh, yeah. Clipboard might be the number one prop.
When we were on NCIS, we used to joke that the C stands for clipboard.
The directors clapping. Wow. Good job. Props. That's a great clipboard.
Actually, you bring up something that's kind of funny for people listening.
If you start paying attention to little things like that in modern shows,
(27:24):
we are very much in the world of tablets, iPads and all that.
But in TV, you will still find old school paperwork on a clipboard with a dude with a pen or pencil.
And we're not really in that universe anymore, but we still do it.
Someone's got to be walking by with a clipboard or files.
That's just. Oftentimes, our news cameras are more dated than actual news cameras now.
(27:49):
There's little things like that that people usually just you're not paying attention to something like that.
Or as we usually say, if you are paying attention, then you're not watching the movie.
Yeah. But I mean, there's a thought that it might be a little bit easier to go analog. Right.
Yeah. From a camera standpoint. Yes. You know, those guys can deal with it.
(28:11):
Yeah, that's the thing. I mean, you look in the background of your life, people are just walking around.
They're not carrying shit. Right. Yeah. It's either in their ear or on their face.
Yeah. I go for walks with my hands in my pocket and I'm not not fucking care. Oh, yeah. But sure. Yeah.
There's a TV part in the park now.
We did a TV pilot that was supposed to be in, I guess, like Virginia Beach, Virginia.
(28:34):
And and it's a bar. And they kept saying, like, more drinks, more drinks.
And we got background people there entering and leaving the bar.
And I'm like, you know, we're supposed to be in Virginia. Like, people can't walk around with drinks.
You know, it's not New Orleans. And and the first day I hear him in my ear going, hey, props, more drinks, more drinks.
(28:55):
And and finally, I'm like calling back. I'm going, are you sure?
And then I guess I don't know if I was on an open radio or what, but I hear that this director who's such an ass.
But I hear him just in the distance going, I said more drinks.
And you're like, she's crying drinks in everyone's hands. Here we go.
And so we put 100 percent drinks in every single hand of every person in there in the most illogical of ways.
(29:19):
And it's that thing like this is what you want. All right, fine. Here you go.
I'm you're the only one ever that's asked for this. But sure, here you go. Yeah.
Every single person. Yeah. But you know better than everyone else.
So everyone's got two drinks. Yeah. Oh, my God.
If if I had the comedy in my head playing in real life, they're like, there's somebody just cradling drinks.
(29:45):
Somebody's pouring multiple drinks into one bigger glass.
These people are alcoholics. They've got like the around telling everybody be drunk.
Drunker. I got like the beer can with the little head thing. What the hell was called?
Beer ears. Yes. Beers. Foam dome. They have a bunch of nicknames.
(30:09):
I've always wanted one of those. Everybody's always wanted one of those.
Or or a a nacho hat. Yeah, not.
Yeah, I mean, it could get messy. I don't want to wear that fucking thing, but I would eat a nacho hat on a table.
You're not eating cheese and chips off of someone's fucking hand.
I have to remember if I ever have a catered party, my own head, especially my own head, because I can't even see what I'm having.
(30:35):
You break something off. You got cheese oozing down your eyeball.
Come on. No, I'll have caterers walk around the party and then you as guests are picking up.
I if I'm eating a nacho hat off of someone's head, they better be just hairless.
You know what I mean? Shave, eyebrows, everything. Polished bald.
(30:56):
Yeah. Yeah, dude. You never know. So those are my no eyelashes either.
And that's all we have to say about rust. So.
I mean, that that thing will be in litigation for years. So we're going to I'll tease out.
We're going to do one more episode, tie a bow on it and move on.
I was surprised that this coming episode is only going to be our third time covering it.
(31:21):
It feels like it's our sixth time doing it. But we're talking about it now.
This is basically a rust episode. There you go. All right.
And now I got to go back and change that before. All right. Oh, well.
So talking a little bit about what's happening with the industry, as I mentioned,
our kickoff guest for the season is going to we're going to go into more depth with them about it.
(31:45):
But I just want to kind of highlight a little bit of what we know and don't know of what's going on right now.
And inside of our industry, we had what was being referred to as contraction.
So after the strikes, there were all these layoffs above the line, all these producer exec people at all the studios and streamers.
(32:09):
And they were basically consolidating their world to kind of streamline and get back to a better profit world,
because apparently they were not profiting very much with all that work coming out of the pandemic.
So we were being told you could hear people talking about like expect things to kind of get back to 2019 level of production is what you would hear.
(32:31):
And what we're experiencing now is there's a lot of outsourcing happening and a lot of projects are suddenly going overseas.
The last thing I just did was probably like 60 percent shot overseas and 40 percent shot here.
And it was very problematic. Customs, especially, was a big issue.
(32:53):
And I'll tease that out because I have a funny story, but I'll save it for the interview.
It involves s'mores. But it's there's just a lot of difficult stuff going on.
And it doesn't matter what production city you're in. Everyone is feeling it right now. And that's unfortunate.
(33:14):
We're all wanting to get past that. And we're all going to try and stay positive because we don't want to bring in the room down.
So that's enough about that. But we're hoping things are going to take a turn.
We're looking forward to our guests. Maybe they can give us a little hope moving forward.
And let's see other teasers before we get out of here. Let's see.
(33:39):
We're going to, of course, have more legendary lures. We got one coming up right away.
That's I this is something we sort of tipped out around it.
I don't know why I wasn't telling you all ahead of time what these movies were to give you a chance to watch the movie.
That's why. Yeah, dude. This was the first one that I was like, I should let him know that this is what we're going to do.
(34:00):
And then and then sure enough, you all went and actually tried to watch it. Novel.
Right. Hey, you know what?
I appreciate the effort that I didn't even know was there.
We're going to have more of our we were calling it tea time at the rumor mill.
We'll get into more of those. Of course, we're going to have more interviews.
(34:23):
We have a couple of new segments that we're dishing around.
We're going to do some roundtable discussions.
I actually was thinking because we haven't really had too much talk about our own departments.
We did get to sound a little bit when we had Donovan on, which I really like that episode.
But I was thinking, oh, maybe we could just do an episode where like we bring like two random prop people in and we'll actually have like a prop conversation, a proper conversation.
(34:53):
Whoa. Never heard that before. But and then and and the last thing I have on here, I must have been tired.
So when I was typing this, I'm just like an asshole.
Listen, because you're about to laugh at what I what I wrote.
And the last thing I have on here, I just say and more.
(35:15):
We're like lack wax lips. The candy of a thousand pieces.
Brilliant. Such as well, one, it's a hilarious replacement for your own lips.
Keep going. What? Oh, that's my lunch break.
So just kind of I'm going to close this out and then I'll turn it back to you all for a second.
(35:40):
We're going to be here doing this with our industry friends and colleagues as long as we can until either we get a cease and desist letter from some thing we didn't have rights to play.
We're definitely dancing on some music things, teasing out, you know, Adrian.
And Zoe is going to talk to you all here in a second.
(36:01):
But I just wanted to throw out that we want to continue to educate the public where we can.
We want to answer your questions. We want to read your thoughts on a future recording, not read your minds.
We want to voice your complaints if you got them.
Hear your crew stories. We want all of it.
Even if your question is, how can I be in your movie?
Or if your question is, what's a movie you've worked on that I would know?
(36:25):
That's my personal favorite question. Or even what's a movie?
Yeah, what's a movie? You guys have been talking for a long time and I still don't know.
You have yet to say what a movie is. And you know what?
And that's on us. That special effects guy though.
Why can't I be more like that guy? He sure is popular.
(36:47):
Great crew. This is going to be a great movie.
At the end of the day, I think we all still just want our t-shirt and the cash bar at the wrap party.
It occurred to me one day that it's kind of crazy we don't even get a copy of what we work on.
(37:12):
In my mind, that's actually probably the most fair gift.
Of course, it would have to be months and months down the line and everything.
But that'd be cool if in your mail one day you're like, oh look, it's that piece of shit I worked on.
Yeah, it would not be nice.
One day, my goal is to actually have everything I worked on on a shelf.
(37:33):
So I can actually see the 10% of good that I did.
The large amount of everything else.
I can't remember if I said it on Jimmy's Jimmy locations.
He's the one that said it to me. I can't remember if I said it on air or not.
But when I first met him, he said, I was just a PA, and he said, you'll be lucky if one out of 10 things you work on is any good.
(38:02):
And all these years later, it's actually kind of true. It works out to about one out of 10.
If you're lucky, you might be able to get to one out of eight.
You're doing really well if that's happening.
Because even like, I'll just use props, but even like big time prop masters,
yeah, they might be working on gigantic movies, but maybe the movies like Jupiter Rising or something like that,
(38:24):
that ends up being a flop. Just because it's large doesn't mean it's guaranteed to be good.
A lot of times, there's tax write-offs.
And also, it doesn't matter if it's a flop for us.
You know what I mean? We're not the actors or whatever.
We get paid either way.
I don't give a shit.
Yeah. And regardless, it's fun for us to see most of the time.
Yeah.
It definitely triggers a lot of random memories of when you're working on something.
(38:48):
That's actually, you bring up actually a good thing.
That's a sign that something you worked on was good, is if you can watch it and you find yourself enjoying the story
and not noticing the background or that day.
Or they told me to do this, this looks like shit on camera.
I hate that milk carton. Why do they make me use that milk carton?
I look like a hack now because somebody asked for this dumb ass shit.
(39:12):
I'm anticipating a stressful day. Like anticipating having to see that on screen.
Yeah.
It ends up being fine.
Yeah. There's just been one thing that I'm like, ah, halfway through. I was like, I can't fucking watch this.
I can't, I can't do it. It's like, I'm like stressed out, like horrible flashbacks.
Like I don't want to do this. I feel bad about myself now.
(39:36):
I'd have to actually like go look to put a number on it, but there's probably-
That's what a movie is.
Yeah. I feel bad about myself now.
Maybe if I had to guess, I don't know, maybe like somewhere between five and 10 things that I haven't seen by choice
because I'm sort of afraid to watch it because it was maybe a rough experience or something.
There is a handful of those kinds of shows that I'm like, oh, I don't need to relive that.
(40:02):
Yeah. It just doesn't look good because somebody asked for some shit and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And you're like, oh, that looks bad on camera.
Oh, that's the worst is when you were forced to put something on camera and it's your name attached to it.
Yeah.
Yeah. That's the worst.
You're not proud of, you argued something different. Like, hey, all right. Yeah, sure.
So when we talked about the background guy that was sweeping air, there's somewhere that AD is really cringing for missing that one.
(40:30):
It's like, fuck, they mentioned it again. God damn it.
I miss the days of VHS when they couldn't really zoom in or not.
Yeah. Yeah.
Guys, that's actually another thing that's fun.
Older movies have all kinds of errors in them because it was just before we had to be hyper aware like we have to be now.
(40:52):
Because you'll often hear people on sets referring to the Internet nerds as, oh, we don't want to do that because Internet nerds will find it, you know, kind of thing.
Yeah. Yeah.
But there's like Linklater, he doesn't, I mean, he cares about continuity to a certain extent,
but he and I think Scorsese is another one that they're like, it's fine. The story is what's important.
(41:14):
Like, I don't care if it doesn't match, you know, kind of thing.
Yeah. I think at one point, like what point can you stop fighting the Internet nerds?
Oh, it's a losing battle.
Because they're overwhelming at this point.
Oh, yeah. And they're trolls, you know, so they're also looking to find something negative.
Yeah, most of us all make believe, dude, whatever.
Online Karens.
Yeah.
(41:37):
All right. Well, winding us down, I want to say thank you guys for being back.
Chris, I hope you get over your fourth bout of Ebola.
Joe, I hope your soul gets found and you're back with us soon.
And yeah, we're looking forward to having you guys around for season two.
And Zoe, why don't you tell these people what's up?
(41:59):
Yes. Do you like what we're doing here?
Do you have thoughts, comments, questions, maybe you have an idea or suggestion for topics you want to hear about?
Well, you can find us on the intrawebs.
You can email us at filmfolklorepodcast at gmail.com.
You can find us on the social medias, Instagram, the Film Folklore Podcast.
(42:22):
We have a Facebook group called Film Folklore, Twitter, X, whatever you want to call it, at the Film Folk.
And yeah, thanks for joining us today.
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