February 14, 2025 • 36 mins
Happy Valentine's Day Film Folks. We've got a steamy episode for you today. Join us on this special day to play romance edition of "find the fake movie title." Then Zoe and Justin test their knowledge of real-life set romances. Did McAdams really fall for Gosling's abs on "Notebook"? Did Swayze put Grey in a corner while shooting "Dirty Dancing?" All this and more to get you in the loving mood today. Enjoy the show!
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Hello film friends, friends of film and everyone in between. Welcome to the Film Folklore Podcast.
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I am Jed Props and I am joined today by Zoe Props.
Hello.
And Justin Sound.
Hello.
Chris, he couldn't make it. Do y'all happen to know where Chris is?
I just saw him. He went upstairs and then he took a left and then a right and then I
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think his next turn was up your butt and around the corner.
Got him.
Where manure could be.
Where manure could be, you see? Nobody says up your butt and around the corner anymore.
It's a good thing.
It's a different manure every time I do it.
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Also going around the corner just seems extra painful, you know?
Yeah, that's the point. Yeah, up your butt.
It's not just up the butt, it's around the corner.
I forgot about that.
It's around the corner.
Yeah.
Well, there's a lot of corners. I mean, it's just.
There's a lot of corners.
Wow. All right. That broke my brain.
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So we're already back for another Tea Time at the Room and Mill and we're going to keep
this one a little light and a little short because it's Valentine's Day.
Happy Valentine's Day to anyone listening out there.
So we wanted to bring a little lighthearted fun and in the name of lighthearted fun to
kick off this fun-filled episode, we're going to be exploring the thin line between love
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and hate on set.
Let's do a find the fake movie title.
That's the spirit.
So these are all relationship themed, I suppose you could say.
Are you all ready to play?
Yeah, I'm ready.
That's good because this whole episode, you're all going to be pitted against each other.
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Great.
So I forgot to say there's a thunder dome that's being constructed outside.
Okay. Well, Justin has a gun. I don't.
No Valentine's Day.
No, I got rid of the gun.
Two men enter, one man leave. That's all I know.
All right. So the first title is The Hottie and the Naughty.
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Okay.
How you spell Naughty?
N-O-T-T-I-E.
Okay.
It's a fair question.
The second title is My Boyfriend Ate My Brains.
Okay.
And the third title is Mr. Wrong.
And that's a W-R-O-N-G.
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Thank you.
I felt the question coming.
We're guessing which one's real, which one's fake.
There's one fake, two real.
One fake, two real.
Okay.
Hottie or Naughty, Mr. Wrong and My Boyfriend Ate My Brains.
I'm going to go with Mr. Wrong and Boyfriend Ate My Brains as real.
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Okay.
So you're saying Hottie and the Naughty is the fake.
I don't.
Yeah.
Yes.
Yes.
All right.
And Justin?
I'm going to say the same thing.
Okay.
Because I think I've seen Mr. Wrong at some point or.
Or maybe you watch Mr. Right and you don't know.
Maybe it is Mr. Right.
I don't know.
I mean, I'm totally wrong.
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Mr. Wrong.
There are sister movies.
There's a sequel.
Anyway.
All right.
So the answer is my boyfriend ate my brains, fake movie title.
It just sounded so stupid that I was like, well, that's probably real.
Naughty?
If it was Naughty, like N-A-W or.
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Na-U-G-H-T-Y.
I don't know.
It could have come from like, remember Hot or Not?
Yes.
So you're also about to be.
Just call it Hot or Not.
It's not fun.
That's not cheeky enough.
Well, it's going to make sense here in a second.
All right.
Come on.
Because only a movie this terrible could get this title.
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I do not remember this existing, but it's from 2008 and it stars Paris Hilton.
That makes sense.
You don't need to know any other actor name because they, they, I don't know them.
But probably her boyfriend at the time.
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According to IMDB, the premise is that a woman agrees to go on a date with a man only if
he finds a suitor for her unattractive best friend.
This movie on IMDB has a two out of 10 rating and look at the movie poster that I provided
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for y'all.
That's Hot.
That's not.
Okay, totally got it.
Her friend's not even that bad either.
Just pluck her eyebrows.
She's thin.
Well, and fix the teeth and the, you know.
Yeah, she's fine.
They gave her billy teeth.
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It's hard to tell on this screen.
That sounds like a tech issue.
I want to try to see who produced this.
I can't zoom in that much.
Oh, you're you're like looking.
Okay.
Yeah, I just, God, I can't, I would rather watch some of the horror stuff we were talking
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about earlier.
Yeah.
I would rather watch that movie or is it like a clockwork orange where you just subject
them to torture where you force their eyes open.
They watch the hottie and the naughty.
God, two percent, man.
That's low.
Yeah, two out of 10 is not good.
Okay.
Oh, on IMDB.
Yeah.
What's the Rotten Tomatoes?
Oh, the Rotten Tomatoes, I'm sure is two percent.
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Yeah, I'm sure it's.
Yes, you're not going to be far off.
So in 1996, there was also the movie Mr. Wrong, which is Ellen DeGeneres and Bill Pullman.
What?
Yeah, no, I was thinking of Mr. Right.
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I found I found a description by a Reddit user who goes by the name of this girl named
Bree.
She described the movie as Mr. Wrong stars Ellen DeGeneres as a straight woman stalked
by Bill Pullman.
All right.
But but the official IMDB synopsis says a lonely single woman finds the seemingly perfect
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man to date, but soon regrets it when his deranged possessive other personality emerges
and she cannot convince anyone else of his Jekyll and Hyde true nature.
Three point eight out of 10.
Yeah, also doesn't seem like a movie about people not believing women.
I did.
Classic.
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Oh, that's you're right.
You're 100 percent correct.
And as a man, I did not see that at all.
No, that's a very, very astute and correct observation.
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Yeah.
Yeah.
Terrible movies.
So I like that you came up with my boyfriend ate my brains.
I don't know.
Actually, you know what credit to friend and industry professional, Sue's that actually
came from her.
Oh, I randomly.
Sue's are Sue's.
Yeah, yeah, Sue's.
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Not to be confused with Sue's has big hair.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Shout out to Sue's has big hair.
And yeah, the last time we worked together, I randomly would pit questions to her.
And so one of them at one point was I want some fake movie titles, which what I enjoyed
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that she she gave me a short list of some ideas.
But she also had like parenthetical explanations.
I didn't need the extra, but I thought just in case.
Yeah.
So it was like for this one, I think it said it said my boyfriend ate my brains parentheses,
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a zombie movie, obvi.
So yeah, see, it had a little chuckle.
What if it's not?
You know, just about some fucking Hannibal Lecter.
Sue's get in here.
Right.
So today we're going to discuss five iconic movie romances that either had real chemistry
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and fireworks flying or were quite the opposite behind the scenes.
I know I said at some point long time ago that I wouldn't do episodes on set romances,
but here we are.
So I'm going to introduce the movie.
All will guess if it was real slash good acting or just good acting and then we'll we'll reveal.
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So if we're going with the intro, your score is currently still zero zero.
Good.
Justin's plan to piggyback on your guess did not work out.
Justin's going to guess first.
Just whatever I'd get.
You can't even when you when you agree with her.
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Mr. Black.
So the first movie that we have is The Notebook from 2004, a Nicholas Sparks classic starring
Ryan Gosling and Rachel McAdams.
Have you all seen this?
Yeah.
I have not.
But I know Nicholas Sparks.
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We got one.
We did.
We have it.
Leave.
Go.
Hey, one point each.
One point each.
So if you were to guess if that was just good acting or if there was a real fling chemistry
going on there, what would you guess?
I think it was just good acting.
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I don't know if they were together.
I'm going to say good acting.
Good acting.
Yeah.
Well, it's just, you know, did they hate hate's a strong word, but did they not get along
good acting or was it really good acting?
Sorry, I should specify the better.
Wait.
Let me.
Because either way it's good acting, I think, because you're selling that the relationship
is working.
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So the question is, did they not get along in reality and they just did their jobs very
well or that that was not really acting as much as it was they're actually having an
onscreen romance?
I'm going to say they didn't get along.
Okay.
Because they either didn't get along or they were like in a relationship is what you're
saying.
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Only two options.
Or is there a third option of they did get along and they weren't in a relationship and
they're also good actors or.
Or all of those things and bad acting.
Wow.
Wow.
All right.
Well, it's okay.
So let's, let's, let's back up a second.
Okay.
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So these are all movies where the romance is famous with the movies.
Okay.
So I think they're, you know, this isn't exactly my cup of tea, which is why I haven't seen
it.
But I would say if I was to watch it, I would go, okay, I get it.
Ryan Gosling, Rach McAdams, hot on camera together, whatever.
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So the question that I'm pitting to y'all is where they having legit romance on on screen
or did they in fact not really get along and they just were professional in their jobs.
So what that's saying in either or is the, the latter is basically, it could be anything
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from they absolutely hated each other to they just really didn't get along.
And when the camera cut, they went to their trailers and avoided each other.
So in, in option a it's that that's not that kissing's not acting, you know, that's option
a and then option B is, oh, uh, when they say cut, these two people get as far away
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from each other as possible for one reason or another.
Okay.
But option A doesn't, yeah.
Could maybe just even mean that they're just attracted to each other and not in a relationship.
Is this a relationship question?
Don't ever play a board game with me.
I want to leave.
We're leaving all of this in.
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So, so the five movies I chose are in either or.
Okay.
We'll say it that way.
What you're asking could exist in another movie, but these five all, all fall one way
or the other.
Okay.
Oh, okay.
Okay.
I, I get it.
Okay.
I think I'm going to let Justin answer though first.
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So Justin, Justin already did answer.
And yours was they don't get along.
I said they're, they're good actors and they're just, they're just don't get along.
They don't get along.
Yeah.
Cause I think, I think Rachel probably wouldn't put up with Ryan stuff.
Ryan Gosling's hot as shit.
I'm going to go with whatever the opposite of Justin is saying.
So Justin's saying that they didn't get along and you were saying that they, uh, had an
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actual romance and did get along.
So I don't know.
I don't know.
I'm just, yeah, yeah, I'm going to say, I'm going to stick with my answer.
They hated each other dot, dot, dot in the beginning.
But things changed.
According to a 2014 VH1 interview, director Nick Cassavetes, uh, referred to a particular
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day of shooting early on where Gosling pulled him aside, stated he can't work with McAdams
and asked if another actress could be brought in to read her lines off camera.
That didn't sound very good, right?
Oh, it's kind of jerky, my dude.
But leaving the actors to settle their differences between themselves.
Apparently it worked out because the two became a hot item and actually did have a dating
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of a period, I don't know, a couple of years after this.
Um, and, uh, this is so cheesy.
Hopefully it worked out because, uh, when they became a hot item, they had a very public
kiss reenactment at the MTV movie awards after accepting the award for best kiss.
Of course.
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Sure.
It was all staged.
So after all of that relationship, Zoe gets a point.
Up your butt.
Up your butt.
Around the corner.
Thank you.
Okay, so next on the list is the 1982 popular flick, An Officer and a Gentleman starring
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Richard Gere and Deborah Winger.
Uh, I'm going to assume Zoe has not seen this.
That's the one movie I have seen.
No, I haven't seen it.
Justin, have you seen Officer and Gentleman?
No.
Okay.
Um, but what I will say is that The Simpsons reference it.
Um, if you remember, uh, an early Simpsons, uh, maybe season two-ish, um, where, uh, Marge
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comes into the power plant and there's the tune of love lifts us up where we belong.
Yeah, when Homer leaves with her or whatever.
And then Homer picks her up and then he goes outside.
That's mimicking an officer in a gentleman's finale.
So, um, in the end of the actual movie, Gere is in his military whites, he's going into
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the factory where Winger works.
Oh, he's the officer and the gentleman?
Never mind, tell me.
I'm sorry.
Spoilers.
You know, anyway, he surprises her.
They, uh, they make out and you hear love lifts us up where we belong plays and he
carries her out of the factory in his arms with other people cheering and everything.
So the only other thing I want to say about The Simpsons one, cause I, I went to look
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it up, uh, uh, to rewatch it to, I just watched the YouTube clip, uh, and then I'd forgotten
that there's a dialogue exchange that's in officer and gentlemen, there's no dialogue
exchange.
It's just like, yeah, go get them.
You know, but in The Simpsons one, a random employee says, what do I tell the boss?
And then Homer says, tell him I'm going out to my car with the woman I love and I won't
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be back for 10 minutes.
Oh, it's so good.
Officer wait.
So he's the officer and the gentlemen.
Sure.
So a gay story.
So no, it's not interesting.
So back to the movie, Richard gear and Deborah winger.
Did they get along?
Not get along.
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They did not.
Justin.
What y'all can't see is Justin, just starting.
That was my line.
All right.
I'm going to say, I'm going to say they, they, they, they liked each other from the jump
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and got into a relationship.
They did not get along at all.
Deborah winger was a difficult actress back then, uh, by some accounts, but, uh, even
by her own, uh, who is Deborah?
Yeah, I don't know.
Oh, she was a big time actress in the eighties.
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Um, uh, when I was younger, I used to get her and Sean young mixed up, but, uh, they
kind of had similar careers.
Um, they were just leading ladies in their times.
Um, uh, Deborah winger, legal Eagles, uh, I used to love with Robert Redford as a fun
movie, uh, officer and a gentleman.
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Uh, she's been in a ton of stuff, I'm just blanking on more.
Um, sorry if I'm insulting Deborah winger, cause she was, she was a good actress in her
day, but, uh, but she even admitted by her own account.
Um, she said she's always been open about the onset tension.
Richard gear and his part has never really publicly acknowledged it, but in a 2021 interview
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with the telegraph winger addressed her, uh, infamous comment that gear was a quote brick
wall costar stating quote, I probably could have come up with something nicer in quote.
However, she claims gear has never let her forget the insult.
And she said, quote, when I run into him, he says, are you still saying those things
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about me?
She admitted.
So, uh, what's that two points now for Zoe.
All right.
Sorry.
The third movie up today is the beloved 1987 movie dirty dancing starring Jennifer gray
and Patrick Swayze.
Have y'all seen this movie?
Yeah.
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Yes.
All right.
Guess what?
I've never seen dirty dancing.
Have you seen any of these or you've just seen the gentlemen scholar?
I've seen officer and a gentleman.
I've seen the gentlemanly officer guys.
Scholar factory show.
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Uh, uh, yeah, it's like dirty.
It's kind of like when, when you, you've said before, like, you know, a lot of things through
the, let's say Simpson's reference where dirty dancing is one of those movies.
I feel like I have seen it even though I haven't seen it.
Cause I've just seen so much of it in clip form in parody form.
And you know, so, um, I mean, I know more or less what it is.
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I know baby and Johnny are the main two.
Right?
I don't remember.
I remember baby.
I'm bad at it.
So, um, the on-stream chemistry between baby and Johnny was quite real, but what about
the actors in real life?
Any guesses?
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I'm going to say no.
Going for real.
It was all real.
It was all real.
All right.
The answer is they in fact did not get along at all.
Both Swayze and Grey would go on record years later commenting on the experience.
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The contention between the two began on the set of Red Dawn where they met, uh, and picked
up where they left off on dirty dancing.
In his 2010 memoir titled The Time of My Life, Swayze revealed that he thought Grey was immature
during filming, quote, she'd slip into silly moods, forcing us to do scenes over and over.
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She seemed particularly emotional, sometimes bursting into tears if someone criticized
her end quote.
Grey told her side of the story 12 years later in her memoir, Out of the Corner, writing
that, I don't know why that's as funny as it is.
Writing that her reaction to Swayze's casting in Dirty Dancing was quote, please, no, not
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him.
No, not else, please.
Grey admitted that Swayze ultimately convinced her to change her mind about his casting during
a screen test.
She said he pulled me down the hall and said to me, I love you.
I love you.
And I'm so sorry.
I know you don't want me to do the movie.
Despite his apology, the pair's rift wasn't fully mended while filming the 1987 classic.
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Grey wrote, quote, the sexual chemistry between baby and Johnny was everything and I was not
feeling it.
How is I supposed to trust this guy?
I couldn't help but sense Patrick's impatience with me in rehearsals.
It freaked me out to feel I'd finally gotten it with Kenny Ortega, the film's choreographer,
and was ready to go only to find out that with Patrick, I didn't have it at all.
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She added the tension between us fed a certain real life struggle and energy into the movie,
end quote.
So it's safe to say they did not have the time of their life.
They didn't.
Oh, I feel bad for her.
All right.
Was that 13 to zero?
Something like that.
Okay.
Yeah.
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So the next two are worth two points each.
The only way I'll come back.
All right.
So next up is the 2011 Marvel installment, The Amazing Spider-Man, starring Andrew Garfield
and Emma Stone.
Have you all seen this Spider-Man?
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Yes.
Justin?
Unfortunately, yes.
It was kind of a confusing period for Spider-Man movies, because there was the weird Fox still
owned Spider-Man, even though Marvel got bought by Disney.
And then this installment didn't do too hot.
So then they rebooted with Tom Holland.
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So this one just sort of was its own little microcosmic Spider-Man.
So as far as Andrew Garfield and Emma Stone go, any guesses?
Justin, I'll let you answer first.
I'm going to say it was, you know what?
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I'm going full romantic.
Yeah, it was real.
Okay.
All right.
And they also, they did the same thing as the first group and they reenacted it at the
MTV Movie Awards.
If you're right, you get another four points, sure.
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I don't know that they reenacted it.
I'm pretty sure Toby, but yeah, they were together.
That's right.
That was Toby McGuire's kiss.
Yeah, that was Toby McGuire's kiss.
Yeah, that actually happened.
In June, they were together, Emma and Andrew and homeboy, right?
In June 2012, Garfield confessed to MTV News that he instantly connected to Stone, quote,
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we got on really well as people in between takes.
That was the fun stuff in between.
We just mess around and I felt, ah, this is different.
I wasn't really aware of what was happening in the screen test.
She keeps you on your toes and that wakes you up.
That was the beginning, end quote.
He went on to describe how overjoyed he was when Stone accepted the role, quote, obviously
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I was so happy that she got the role and decided to do it.
There are those days I'd look forward to, you know, for my character, Peter as well,
because Peter goes through some horrible stuff in the movie.
There's some joy to be had when experiencing his first love, end quote.
And although they split in 2015, they still remain close friends to this day.
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Love.
Love.
Love.
There you go.
True love.
So this last one is worth eight points.
So unlike the other ones, this is an arguably forgettable movie from 1993 called Sliver,
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starring Sharon Stone and William Baldwin.
Have y'all seen this movie?
No.
I think every guy over a certain age has seen this movie.
They were kind of capital, well, not kind of, they were totally capitalizing on the basic
instinct sexiness that Sharon Stone had just gotten from.
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I never saw that either.
Basic instinct?
Yeah.
I mean, you know what it is, right?
Yes.
It's a movie about not wearing panties.
That's the, no, it's actually a murder movie.
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It's a movie that gets distracted by a lot of Sharon Stone's sexiness.
It's a sexual thriller.
Yeah.
Right, right, right.
Cause that was this era too.
That was the erotic thrill.
Oh sure.
Does Simpsons make fun of that with Willie?
Yes.
Yeah.
There you go.
See?
See?
I don't need to watch any movie.
Okay.
That one I'll give you, but I feel very confident that the Simpsons did not parody Sliver.
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Sure.
But yes, you are correct with the Willie.
So in fact, now that I'm thinking about it, they've also done Willie's kilt with the Marilyn
Monroe subway vent.
They've done that with Willie's kilt as well.
They've gotten a few Willie underless, underwearless jokes.
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I mean, not a joke.
Don't they like not wear underwear into those things?
Yeah.
Well, real, real Scottish men.
Yeah.
They keep it flopping.
Right.
I saved the best for last because this one's interesting.
So any guesses before I reveal?
What you got?
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Going all in.
I'm saying they were in love.
They were in love.
You're going for love?
I'm going for no love.
No love.
Because I don't know and I have no context.
So I'm just going to say no.
Yes.
And mostly just to disagree.
Yeah.
Oh, I know.
Zoe, kind of like when someone plays a sport or a game for the first time and they have
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that beginner's luck, you have a perfect score today.
So in her 2021 autobiography called The Beauty of Living Twice, Sharon Stone recalled that
she was told to sleep with Sliver co-star Billy Baldwin to improve his performance in
the film.
Gross.
That's me talking.
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Back up.
Sorry.
Yeah.
She stated that one day when she, quote, should have been on set, end quote, she was told
to meet producer Robert Evans in his office to discuss her chemistry with Baldwin.
She said, Evans running around his office in his sunglasses, explaining to me that he
slept with Ava Gardner and I should sleep with Billy Baldwin, end quote.
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Because if I slept, sorry, not end quote, because if I slept with Billy Baldwin, Billy
Baldwin's performance would get better.
And we needed Billy to get better in the movie because that was the problem, end quote.
She continued, if I could sleep with Billy, then we would have chemistry on screen.
And if I would just have sex with him, then that would save the movie, end quote.
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So Stone refused and was shamed for it.
And the real problem in the movie was me because I was so uptight and so not like a real actress
who could just fuck him and get things back on track.
And the real problem is that I was such a tight ass, end quote.
I think there's some sarcasm there.
Oy vey, that's sad and shitty.
Yeah, 1993 different world.
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And I mean, this is her claim and her book.
Also, dog, why don't you just be a better actor, the guy.
It sounds very earnest and real though.
Oh, I mean, we know because of Harvey Weinstein, if no other example, we know this kind of
stuff happened.
Oh yeah.
I mean, the casting couch didn't get its name for anyway.
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I feel pretty stupid about that answer now, huh, Jess?
Oh yeah.
Yeah, well, you know, it's Valentine's Day, so I thought I'd be romantic.
Oh, don't worry.
Believing in love.
Don't worry.
There's more coming.
Baldwin fired back to these claims in a tweet.
Quote, not sure why Sharon Stone keeps talking about me all these years later.
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Does she still have a crush on me or is she still hurt after all these years because I
shunned her advances?
Oh yeah.
And then in a new quote, he says, I have so much dirt on her, it would make her head spin,
but I've kept quiet.
He continued while claiming that he had asked Evans to quote, allow me to choreograph the
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final sex scene so I wouldn't have to kiss Sharon, end quote.
He ended the, oh, I guess that wasn't the same tweet.
I was wrong.
He ended the tweet.
That's a long ass tweet.
Yeah.
He ended the tweet with a threat.
Quote, wonder if I should write a book and tell the many, many disturbing, kinky and
unprofessional tales about Sharon.
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That might be fun.
End quote.
Oh man, dude.
That's a sad insecure.
When was the, when did he tweet that?
He's tweeting this.
Like Twitter was the thing.
Well, and also this is her, she wrote her book and then he's responding to her book,
2021.
Oh, another one.
So also it's a weird thing for him to have no career anymore.
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His career for years.
That's a weird thing to get defensive about, especially when like her higher up was telling
her that she should sleep with him.
She wasn't accusing him of, of asking that.
Like honestly, it's just like, I don't know.
She threw in there was that he might've been a bad actor.
She called him a bad actor, but she was really putting the onus on the producer, Evans as
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the one prod her to go get prodded.
Which also tells me that like, yeah, that homeboy was in on that and feels stupid and
now needs to.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Some, some interesting finishing notes on that.
The writer of the movie would later claim that Stone bit Baldwin's tongue intentionally
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during a kissing scene.
Then he made the allegation, she responded to the allegation as a, and I'm paraphrasing
this.
I didn't realize Joe, the writer was a comedy writer, but allegedly Billy couldn't talk
for a week.
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Oh, whatever, dude.
Those Baldwin's gotta get together.
Not surprising, but the two would never work together again.
So I wanted to ask a one little question for this one particular, and you'll have kind
of started to answer it, but who do you think is right here?
Or do you think it's a little column A, column B?
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What Sharon Stone?
Well, the, the accusations between Stone and Baldwin.
Who do I think is right?
Yeah.
Sharon Stone.
Stone.
Yeah.
I mean, she did, I mean, again, it's, she wrote a book that doesn't necessarily make
it gospel, but it does give her some credence that she's like, I took the time to put all
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this stuff down instead of like a tweet or something like that.
Now if Billy was to get petty and start dishing some dirt, who knows what he claims or whatever.
But I think I agree that it feels more that Billy's a little butt hurt.
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Evans was a gross old school producer and Sharon was unfortunately a product of her
time where that kind of shit was still going around, even though obviously they knew it
wasn't right.
Yeah.
But they were clearly a lot more candid about it than them.
But also dude, like you're that tweet sounded like really gross and accusatory and I don't
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know, kind of not cool.
That's not, that's not the way to handle that.
Like don't even just like, it's not even your conversation.
It's just, it's just like you get what Richard Gere did.
Yeah.
Say anything at all.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Shut up.
Shut up.
Idiot.
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Now in that Twitter, but he might not have a PR juggling, then yeah, you probably got
to address it at some point.
Oh sure.
Yeah.
Call back.
Yeah.
Yeah.
There's a whole Wikipedia on the people.
So let's see.
Final score is 96 to zero.
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Cause it multiplied each time.
I don't math too good either.
So final thoughts.
We just wanted to have a little lighthearted Valentine's treat for y'all so we can get to
our own Valentine's relationships, whatever those are.
And if you didn't like this, I do want to say, don't worry.
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We're not going to be covering sappy gossip.
No, it's nothing but a love show now.
Yeah, exactly.
What we need is another show about, yeah.
But any, any other final thoughts as far as onset romances or these, these movies in particular?
I love when actors secretly hate each other and openly though.
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I like the open beef.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I like hearing about it and nobody knows.
And you talk to your film friend and they're like, Oh man, they said this and they hit
on them like, Oh, this is, you know what I mean?
We know some saucy stuff.
Oh, we know some saucy stuff and not love sauce.
Bad sauce.
Yeah, it's bad sauce.
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Definitely was a poop pie was baked for that.
It was a, yeah.
Anywho's so, did you have any final thoughts?
Nope.
Can't top a poop pie.
Fair.
Okay.
So, I guess the only thing left to do is to listen to Zoe now.
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Hello film friends, friends of film and everyone in between. Welcome to the Film Folklore Podcast.
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I am Jed Props and I am joined today by Zoe Props.
Hello.
And Justin Sound.
Hello.
Chris, he couldn't make it. Do y'all happen to know where Chris is?
I just saw him. He went upstairs and then he took a left and then a right and then I
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think his next turn was up your butt and around the corner.
Got him.
Where manure could be.
Where manure could be, you see? Nobody says up your butt and around the corner anymore.
It's a good thing.
It's a different manure every time I do it.
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Also going around the corner just seems extra painful, you know?
Yeah, that's the point. Yeah, up your butt.
It's not just up the butt, it's around the corner.
I forgot about that.
It's around the corner.
Yeah.
Well, there's a lot of corners. I mean, it's just.
There's a lot of corners.
Wow. All right. That broke my brain.
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So we're already back for another Tea Time at the Room and Mill and we're going to keep
this one a little light and a little short because it's Valentine's Day.
Happy Valentine's Day to anyone listening out there.
So we wanted to bring a little lighthearted fun and in the name of lighthearted fun to
kick off this fun-filled episode, we're going to be exploring the thin line between love
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and hate on set.
Let's do a find the fake movie title.
That's the spirit.
So these are all relationship themed, I suppose you could say.
Are you all ready to play?
Yeah, I'm ready.
That's good because this whole episode, you're all going to be pitted against each other.
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Great.
So I forgot to say there's a thunder dome that's being constructed outside.
Okay. Well, Justin has a gun. I don't.
No Valentine's Day.
No, I got rid of the gun.
Two men enter, one man leave. That's all I know.
All right. So the first title is The Hottie and the Naughty.
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Okay.
How you spell Naughty?
N-O-T-T-I-E.
Okay.
It's a fair question.
The second title is My Boyfriend Ate My Brains.
Okay.
And the third title is Mr. Wrong.
And that's a W-R-O-N-G.
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Thank you.
I felt the question coming.
We're guessing which one's real, which one's fake.
There's one fake, two real.
One fake, two real.
Okay.
Hottie or Naughty, Mr. Wrong and My Boyfriend Ate My Brains.
I'm going to go with Mr. Wrong and Boyfriend Ate My Brains as real.
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Okay.
So you're saying Hottie and the Naughty is the fake.
I don't.
Yeah.
Yes.
Yes.
All right.
And Justin?
I'm going to say the same thing.
Okay.
Because I think I've seen Mr. Wrong at some point or.
Or maybe you watch Mr. Right and you don't know.
Maybe it is Mr. Right.
I don't know.
I mean, I'm totally wrong.
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Mr. Wrong.
There are sister movies.
There's a sequel.
Anyway.
All right.
So the answer is my boyfriend ate my brains, fake movie title.
It just sounded so stupid that I was like, well, that's probably real.
Naughty?
If it was Naughty, like N-A-W or.
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Na-U-G-H-T-Y.
I don't know.
It could have come from like, remember Hot or Not?
Yes.
So you're also about to be.
Just call it Hot or Not.
It's not fun.
That's not cheeky enough.
Well, it's going to make sense here in a second.
All right.
Come on.
Because only a movie this terrible could get this title.
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I do not remember this existing, but it's from 2008 and it stars Paris Hilton.
That makes sense.
You don't need to know any other actor name because they, they, I don't know them.
But probably her boyfriend at the time.
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According to IMDB, the premise is that a woman agrees to go on a date with a man only if
he finds a suitor for her unattractive best friend.
This movie on IMDB has a two out of 10 rating and look at the movie poster that I provided
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for y'all.
That's Hot.
That's not.
Okay, totally got it.
Her friend's not even that bad either.
Just pluck her eyebrows.
She's thin.
Well, and fix the teeth and the, you know.
Yeah, she's fine.
They gave her billy teeth.
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It's hard to tell on this screen.
That sounds like a tech issue.
I want to try to see who produced this.
I can't zoom in that much.
Oh, you're you're like looking.
Okay.
Yeah, I just, God, I can't, I would rather watch some of the horror stuff we were talking
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about earlier.
Yeah.
I would rather watch that movie or is it like a clockwork orange where you just subject
them to torture where you force their eyes open.
They watch the hottie and the naughty.
God, two percent, man.
That's low.
Yeah, two out of 10 is not good.
Okay.
Oh, on IMDB.
Yeah.
What's the Rotten Tomatoes?
Oh, the Rotten Tomatoes, I'm sure is two percent.
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Yeah, I'm sure it's.
Yes, you're not going to be far off.
So in 1996, there was also the movie Mr. Wrong, which is Ellen DeGeneres and Bill Pullman.
What?
Yeah, no, I was thinking of Mr. Right.
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I found I found a description by a Reddit user who goes by the name of this girl named
Bree.
She described the movie as Mr. Wrong stars Ellen DeGeneres as a straight woman stalked
by Bill Pullman.
All right.
But but the official IMDB synopsis says a lonely single woman finds the seemingly perfect
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man to date, but soon regrets it when his deranged possessive other personality emerges
and she cannot convince anyone else of his Jekyll and Hyde true nature.
Three point eight out of 10.
Yeah, also doesn't seem like a movie about people not believing women.
I did.
Classic.
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Oh, that's you're right.
You're 100 percent correct.
And as a man, I did not see that at all.
No, that's a very, very astute and correct observation.
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Yeah.
Yeah.
Terrible movies.
So I like that you came up with my boyfriend ate my brains.
I don't know.
Actually, you know what credit to friend and industry professional, Sue's that actually
came from her.
Oh, I randomly.
Sue's are Sue's.
Yeah, yeah, Sue's.
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Not to be confused with Sue's has big hair.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Shout out to Sue's has big hair.
And yeah, the last time we worked together, I randomly would pit questions to her.
And so one of them at one point was I want some fake movie titles, which what I enjoyed
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that she she gave me a short list of some ideas.
But she also had like parenthetical explanations.
I didn't need the extra, but I thought just in case.
Yeah.
So it was like for this one, I think it said it said my boyfriend ate my brains parentheses,
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a zombie movie, obvi.
So yeah, see, it had a little chuckle.
What if it's not?
You know, just about some fucking Hannibal Lecter.
Sue's get in here.
Right.
So today we're going to discuss five iconic movie romances that either had real chemistry
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and fireworks flying or were quite the opposite behind the scenes.
I know I said at some point long time ago that I wouldn't do episodes on set romances,
but here we are.
So I'm going to introduce the movie.
All will guess if it was real slash good acting or just good acting and then we'll we'll reveal.
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So if we're going with the intro, your score is currently still zero zero.
Good.
Justin's plan to piggyback on your guess did not work out.
Justin's going to guess first.
Just whatever I'd get.
You can't even when you when you agree with her.
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Mr. Black.
So the first movie that we have is The Notebook from 2004, a Nicholas Sparks classic starring
Ryan Gosling and Rachel McAdams.
Have you all seen this?
Yeah.
I have not.
But I know Nicholas Sparks.
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We got one.
We did.
We have it.
Leave.
Go.
Hey, one point each.
One point each.
So if you were to guess if that was just good acting or if there was a real fling chemistry
going on there, what would you guess?
I think it was just good acting.
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I don't know if they were together.
I'm going to say good acting.
Good acting.
Yeah.
Well, it's just, you know, did they hate hate's a strong word, but did they not get along
good acting or was it really good acting?
Sorry, I should specify the better.
Wait.
Let me.
Because either way it's good acting, I think, because you're selling that the relationship
is working.
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So the question is, did they not get along in reality and they just did their jobs very
well or that that was not really acting as much as it was they're actually having an
onscreen romance?
I'm going to say they didn't get along.
Okay.
Because they either didn't get along or they were like in a relationship is what you're
saying.
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Only two options.
Or is there a third option of they did get along and they weren't in a relationship and
they're also good actors or.
Or all of those things and bad acting.
Wow.
Wow.
All right.
Well, it's okay.
So let's, let's, let's back up a second.
Okay.
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So these are all movies where the romance is famous with the movies.
Okay.
So I think they're, you know, this isn't exactly my cup of tea, which is why I haven't seen
it.
But I would say if I was to watch it, I would go, okay, I get it.
Ryan Gosling, Rach McAdams, hot on camera together, whatever.
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So the question that I'm pitting to y'all is where they having legit romance on on screen
or did they in fact not really get along and they just were professional in their jobs.
So what that's saying in either or is the, the latter is basically, it could be anything
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from they absolutely hated each other to they just really didn't get along.
And when the camera cut, they went to their trailers and avoided each other.
So in, in option a it's that that's not that kissing's not acting, you know, that's option
a and then option B is, oh, uh, when they say cut, these two people get as far away
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from each other as possible for one reason or another.
Okay.
But option A doesn't, yeah.
Could maybe just even mean that they're just attracted to each other and not in a relationship.
Is this a relationship question?
Don't ever play a board game with me.
I want to leave.
We're leaving all of this in.
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So, so the five movies I chose are in either or.
Okay.
We'll say it that way.
What you're asking could exist in another movie, but these five all, all fall one way
or the other.
Okay.
Oh, okay.
Okay.
I, I get it.
Okay.
I think I'm going to let Justin answer though first.
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So Justin, Justin already did answer.
And yours was they don't get along.
I said they're, they're good actors and they're just, they're just don't get along.
They don't get along.
Yeah.
Cause I think, I think Rachel probably wouldn't put up with Ryan stuff.
Ryan Gosling's hot as shit.
I'm going to go with whatever the opposite of Justin is saying.
So Justin's saying that they didn't get along and you were saying that they, uh, had an
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actual romance and did get along.
So I don't know.
I don't know.
I'm just, yeah, yeah, I'm going to say, I'm going to stick with my answer.
They hated each other dot, dot, dot in the beginning.
But things changed.
According to a 2014 VH1 interview, director Nick Cassavetes, uh, referred to a particular
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day of shooting early on where Gosling pulled him aside, stated he can't work with McAdams
and asked if another actress could be brought in to read her lines off camera.
That didn't sound very good, right?
Oh, it's kind of jerky, my dude.
But leaving the actors to settle their differences between themselves.
Apparently it worked out because the two became a hot item and actually did have a dating
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of a period, I don't know, a couple of years after this.
Um, and, uh, this is so cheesy.
Hopefully it worked out because, uh, when they became a hot item, they had a very public
kiss reenactment at the MTV movie awards after accepting the award for best kiss.
Of course.
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Sure.
It was all staged.
So after all of that relationship, Zoe gets a point.
Up your butt.
Up your butt.
Around the corner.
Thank you.
Okay, so next on the list is the 1982 popular flick, An Officer and a Gentleman starring
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Richard Gere and Deborah Winger.
Uh, I'm going to assume Zoe has not seen this.
That's the one movie I have seen.
No, I haven't seen it.
Justin, have you seen Officer and Gentleman?
No.
Okay.
Um, but what I will say is that The Simpsons reference it.
Um, if you remember, uh, an early Simpsons, uh, maybe season two-ish, um, where, uh, Marge
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comes into the power plant and there's the tune of love lifts us up where we belong.
Yeah, when Homer leaves with her or whatever.
And then Homer picks her up and then he goes outside.
That's mimicking an officer in a gentleman's finale.
So, um, in the end of the actual movie, Gere is in his military whites, he's going into
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the factory where Winger works.
Oh, he's the officer and the gentleman?
Never mind, tell me.
I'm sorry.
Spoilers.
You know, anyway, he surprises her.
They, uh, they make out and you hear love lifts us up where we belong plays and he
carries her out of the factory in his arms with other people cheering and everything.
So the only other thing I want to say about The Simpsons one, cause I, I went to look
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it up, uh, uh, to rewatch it to, I just watched the YouTube clip, uh, and then I'd forgotten
that there's a dialogue exchange that's in officer and gentlemen, there's no dialogue
exchange.
It's just like, yeah, go get them.
You know, but in The Simpsons one, a random employee says, what do I tell the boss?
And then Homer says, tell him I'm going out to my car with the woman I love and I won't
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be back for 10 minutes.
Oh, it's so good.
Officer wait.
So he's the officer and the gentlemen.
Sure.
So a gay story.
So no, it's not interesting.
So back to the movie, Richard gear and Deborah winger.
Did they get along?
Not get along.
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They did not.
Justin.
What y'all can't see is Justin, just starting.
That was my line.
All right.
I'm going to say, I'm going to say they, they, they, they liked each other from the jump
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and got into a relationship.
They did not get along at all.
Deborah winger was a difficult actress back then, uh, by some accounts, but, uh, even
by her own, uh, who is Deborah?
Yeah, I don't know.
Oh, she was a big time actress in the eighties.
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Um, uh, when I was younger, I used to get her and Sean young mixed up, but, uh, they
kind of had similar careers.
Um, they were just leading ladies in their times.
Um, uh, Deborah winger, legal Eagles, uh, I used to love with Robert Redford as a fun
movie, uh, officer and a gentleman.
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Uh, she's been in a ton of stuff, I'm just blanking on more.
Um, sorry if I'm insulting Deborah winger, cause she was, she was a good actress in her
day, but, uh, but she even admitted by her own account.
Um, she said she's always been open about the onset tension.
Richard gear and his part has never really publicly acknowledged it, but in a 2021 interview
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with the telegraph winger addressed her, uh, infamous comment that gear was a quote brick
wall costar stating quote, I probably could have come up with something nicer in quote.
However, she claims gear has never let her forget the insult.
And she said, quote, when I run into him, he says, are you still saying those things
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about me?
She admitted.
So, uh, what's that two points now for Zoe.
All right.
Sorry.
The third movie up today is the beloved 1987 movie dirty dancing starring Jennifer gray
and Patrick Swayze.
Have y'all seen this movie?
Yeah.
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Yes.
All right.
Guess what?
I've never seen dirty dancing.
Have you seen any of these or you've just seen the gentlemen scholar?
I've seen officer and a gentleman.
I've seen the gentlemanly officer guys.
Scholar factory show.
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Uh, uh, yeah, it's like dirty.
It's kind of like when, when you, you've said before, like, you know, a lot of things through
the, let's say Simpson's reference where dirty dancing is one of those movies.
I feel like I have seen it even though I haven't seen it.
Cause I've just seen so much of it in clip form in parody form.
And you know, so, um, I mean, I know more or less what it is.
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I know baby and Johnny are the main two.
Right?
I don't remember.
I remember baby.
I'm bad at it.
So, um, the on-stream chemistry between baby and Johnny was quite real, but what about
the actors in real life?
Any guesses?
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I'm going to say no.
Going for real.
It was all real.
It was all real.
All right.
The answer is they in fact did not get along at all.
Both Swayze and Grey would go on record years later commenting on the experience.
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The contention between the two began on the set of Red Dawn where they met, uh, and picked
up where they left off on dirty dancing.
In his 2010 memoir titled The Time of My Life, Swayze revealed that he thought Grey was immature
during filming, quote, she'd slip into silly moods, forcing us to do scenes over and over.
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She seemed particularly emotional, sometimes bursting into tears if someone criticized
her end quote.
Grey told her side of the story 12 years later in her memoir, Out of the Corner, writing
that, I don't know why that's as funny as it is.
Writing that her reaction to Swayze's casting in Dirty Dancing was quote, please, no, not
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him.
No, not else, please.
Grey admitted that Swayze ultimately convinced her to change her mind about his casting during
a screen test.
She said he pulled me down the hall and said to me, I love you.
I love you.
And I'm so sorry.
I know you don't want me to do the movie.
Despite his apology, the pair's rift wasn't fully mended while filming the 1987 classic.
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Grey wrote, quote, the sexual chemistry between baby and Johnny was everything and I was not
feeling it.
How is I supposed to trust this guy?
I couldn't help but sense Patrick's impatience with me in rehearsals.
It freaked me out to feel I'd finally gotten it with Kenny Ortega, the film's choreographer,
and was ready to go only to find out that with Patrick, I didn't have it at all.
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She added the tension between us fed a certain real life struggle and energy into the movie,
end quote.
So it's safe to say they did not have the time of their life.
They didn't.
Oh, I feel bad for her.
All right.
Was that 13 to zero?
Something like that.
Okay.
Yeah.
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So the next two are worth two points each.
The only way I'll come back.
All right.
So next up is the 2011 Marvel installment, The Amazing Spider-Man, starring Andrew Garfield
and Emma Stone.
Have you all seen this Spider-Man?
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Yes.
Justin?
Unfortunately, yes.
It was kind of a confusing period for Spider-Man movies, because there was the weird Fox still
owned Spider-Man, even though Marvel got bought by Disney.
And then this installment didn't do too hot.
So then they rebooted with Tom Holland.
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So this one just sort of was its own little microcosmic Spider-Man.
So as far as Andrew Garfield and Emma Stone go, any guesses?
Justin, I'll let you answer first.
I'm going to say it was, you know what?
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I'm going full romantic.
Yeah, it was real.
Okay.
All right.
And they also, they did the same thing as the first group and they reenacted it at the
MTV Movie Awards.
If you're right, you get another four points, sure.
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I don't know that they reenacted it.
I'm pretty sure Toby, but yeah, they were together.
That's right.
That was Toby McGuire's kiss.
Yeah, that was Toby McGuire's kiss.
Yeah, that actually happened.
In June, they were together, Emma and Andrew and homeboy, right?
In June 2012, Garfield confessed to MTV News that he instantly connected to Stone, quote,
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we got on really well as people in between takes.
That was the fun stuff in between.
We just mess around and I felt, ah, this is different.
I wasn't really aware of what was happening in the screen test.
She keeps you on your toes and that wakes you up.
That was the beginning, end quote.
He went on to describe how overjoyed he was when Stone accepted the role, quote, obviously
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I was so happy that she got the role and decided to do it.
There are those days I'd look forward to, you know, for my character, Peter as well,
because Peter goes through some horrible stuff in the movie.
There's some joy to be had when experiencing his first love, end quote.
And although they split in 2015, they still remain close friends to this day.
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Love.
Love.
Love.
There you go.
True love.
So this last one is worth eight points.
So unlike the other ones, this is an arguably forgettable movie from 1993 called Sliver,
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starring Sharon Stone and William Baldwin.
Have y'all seen this movie?
No.
I think every guy over a certain age has seen this movie.
They were kind of capital, well, not kind of, they were totally capitalizing on the basic
instinct sexiness that Sharon Stone had just gotten from.
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I never saw that either.
Basic instinct?
Yeah.
I mean, you know what it is, right?
Yes.
It's a movie about not wearing panties.
That's the, no, it's actually a murder movie.
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It's a movie that gets distracted by a lot of Sharon Stone's sexiness.
It's a sexual thriller.
Yeah.
Right, right, right.
Cause that was this era too.
That was the erotic thrill.
Oh sure.
Does Simpsons make fun of that with Willie?
Yes.
Yeah.
There you go.
See?
See?
I don't need to watch any movie.
Okay.
That one I'll give you, but I feel very confident that the Simpsons did not parody Sliver.
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Sure.
But yes, you are correct with the Willie.
So in fact, now that I'm thinking about it, they've also done Willie's kilt with the Marilyn
Monroe subway vent.
They've done that with Willie's kilt as well.
They've gotten a few Willie underless, underwearless jokes.
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I mean, not a joke.
Don't they like not wear underwear into those things?
Yeah.
Well, real, real Scottish men.
Yeah.
They keep it flopping.
Right.
I saved the best for last because this one's interesting.
So any guesses before I reveal?
What you got?
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Going all in.
I'm saying they were in love.
They were in love.
You're going for love?
I'm going for no love.
No love.
Because I don't know and I have no context.
So I'm just going to say no.
Yes.
And mostly just to disagree.
Yeah.
Oh, I know.
Zoe, kind of like when someone plays a sport or a game for the first time and they have
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that beginner's luck, you have a perfect score today.
So in her 2021 autobiography called The Beauty of Living Twice, Sharon Stone recalled that
she was told to sleep with Sliver co-star Billy Baldwin to improve his performance in
the film.
Gross.
That's me talking.
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Back up.
Sorry.
Yeah.
She stated that one day when she, quote, should have been on set, end quote, she was told
to meet producer Robert Evans in his office to discuss her chemistry with Baldwin.
She said, Evans running around his office in his sunglasses, explaining to me that he
slept with Ava Gardner and I should sleep with Billy Baldwin, end quote.
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Because if I slept, sorry, not end quote, because if I slept with Billy Baldwin, Billy
Baldwin's performance would get better.
And we needed Billy to get better in the movie because that was the problem, end quote.
She continued, if I could sleep with Billy, then we would have chemistry on screen.
And if I would just have sex with him, then that would save the movie, end quote.
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So Stone refused and was shamed for it.
And the real problem in the movie was me because I was so uptight and so not like a real actress
who could just fuck him and get things back on track.
And the real problem is that I was such a tight ass, end quote.
I think there's some sarcasm there.
Oy vey, that's sad and shitty.
Yeah, 1993 different world.
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And I mean, this is her claim and her book.
Also, dog, why don't you just be a better actor, the guy.
It sounds very earnest and real though.
Oh, I mean, we know because of Harvey Weinstein, if no other example, we know this kind of
stuff happened.
Oh yeah.
I mean, the casting couch didn't get its name for anyway.
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I feel pretty stupid about that answer now, huh, Jess?
Oh yeah.
Yeah, well, you know, it's Valentine's Day, so I thought I'd be romantic.
Oh, don't worry.
Believing in love.
Don't worry.
There's more coming.
Baldwin fired back to these claims in a tweet.
Quote, not sure why Sharon Stone keeps talking about me all these years later.
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Does she still have a crush on me or is she still hurt after all these years because I
shunned her advances?
Oh yeah.
And then in a new quote, he says, I have so much dirt on her, it would make her head spin,
but I've kept quiet.
He continued while claiming that he had asked Evans to quote, allow me to choreograph the
(30:28):
final sex scene so I wouldn't have to kiss Sharon, end quote.
He ended the, oh, I guess that wasn't the same tweet.
I was wrong.
He ended the tweet.
That's a long ass tweet.
Yeah.
He ended the tweet with a threat.
Quote, wonder if I should write a book and tell the many, many disturbing, kinky and
unprofessional tales about Sharon.
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That might be fun.
End quote.
Oh man, dude.
That's a sad insecure.
When was the, when did he tweet that?
He's tweeting this.
Like Twitter was the thing.
Well, and also this is her, she wrote her book and then he's responding to her book,
2021.
Oh, another one.
So also it's a weird thing for him to have no career anymore.
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His career for years.
That's a weird thing to get defensive about, especially when like her higher up was telling
her that she should sleep with him.
She wasn't accusing him of, of asking that.
Like honestly, it's just like, I don't know.
She threw in there was that he might've been a bad actor.
She called him a bad actor, but she was really putting the onus on the producer, Evans as
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the one prod her to go get prodded.
Which also tells me that like, yeah, that homeboy was in on that and feels stupid and
now needs to.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Some, some interesting finishing notes on that.
The writer of the movie would later claim that Stone bit Baldwin's tongue intentionally
(31:59):
during a kissing scene.
Then he made the allegation, she responded to the allegation as a, and I'm paraphrasing
this.
I didn't realize Joe, the writer was a comedy writer, but allegedly Billy couldn't talk
for a week.
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Oh, whatever, dude.
Those Baldwin's gotta get together.
Not surprising, but the two would never work together again.
So I wanted to ask a one little question for this one particular, and you'll have kind
of started to answer it, but who do you think is right here?
Or do you think it's a little column A, column B?
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What Sharon Stone?
Well, the, the accusations between Stone and Baldwin.
Who do I think is right?
Yeah.
Sharon Stone.
Stone.
Yeah.
I mean, she did, I mean, again, it's, she wrote a book that doesn't necessarily make
it gospel, but it does give her some credence that she's like, I took the time to put all
(33:04):
this stuff down instead of like a tweet or something like that.
Now if Billy was to get petty and start dishing some dirt, who knows what he claims or whatever.
But I think I agree that it feels more that Billy's a little butt hurt.
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Evans was a gross old school producer and Sharon was unfortunately a product of her
time where that kind of shit was still going around, even though obviously they knew it
wasn't right.
Yeah.
But they were clearly a lot more candid about it than them.
But also dude, like you're that tweet sounded like really gross and accusatory and I don't
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know, kind of not cool.
That's not, that's not the way to handle that.
Like don't even just like, it's not even your conversation.
It's just, it's just like you get what Richard Gere did.
Yeah.
Say anything at all.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Shut up.
Shut up.
Idiot.
(34:09):
Now in that Twitter, but he might not have a PR juggling, then yeah, you probably got
to address it at some point.
Oh sure.
Yeah.
Call back.
Yeah.
Yeah.
There's a whole Wikipedia on the people.
So let's see.
Final score is 96 to zero.
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Cause it multiplied each time.
I don't math too good either.
So final thoughts.
We just wanted to have a little lighthearted Valentine's treat for y'all so we can get to
our own Valentine's relationships, whatever those are.
And if you didn't like this, I do want to say, don't worry.
(34:55):
We're not going to be covering sappy gossip.
No, it's nothing but a love show now.
Yeah, exactly.
What we need is another show about, yeah.
But any, any other final thoughts as far as onset romances or these, these movies in particular?
I love when actors secretly hate each other and openly though.
(35:18):
I like the open beef.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I like hearing about it and nobody knows.
And you talk to your film friend and they're like, Oh man, they said this and they hit
on them like, Oh, this is, you know what I mean?
We know some saucy stuff.
Oh, we know some saucy stuff and not love sauce.
Bad sauce.
Yeah, it's bad sauce.
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Definitely was a poop pie was baked for that.
It was a, yeah.
Anywho's so, did you have any final thoughts?
Nope.
Can't top a poop pie.
Fair.
Okay.
So, I guess the only thing left to do is to listen to Zoe now.
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Do you like what we're doing here?
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All right.
Thanks everybody.
Thanks.
Bye.
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