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June 3, 2025 58 mins

What do centuries of isolation with only a monkey as company do to a martial arts master? Is the blue catfish man really a martial arts master? What's with all the dad jokes? Join Jelli and Bekinney as they continue breaking down Akira Toriyama's worldwide manga and anime phenomenon Dragon Ball Z by looking at episodes 16 through 20: "Plight of the Children," "Pendulum Room Peril," "The End of Snake Way," "Defying Gravity" (and to think, we barely make any Wicked references), and "Goku's Ancestors." We continue discussing the Saiyan Saga and talk about Goku's newest teacher, King Kai.

In this episode:

  • Jelli and Bekinney are in a rather desperate situation
  • Is Pigero like the Artful Dodger from Oliver Twist? Or is he more like Rufio from Peter Pan/Hook?
  • Good vs bad filler
  • Do King Kai's jokes translate between languages? (We're actually asking)
  • What episodes are cut out of the Ocean Group dub?
  • Why HFIL happened and how and why things got altered wit a brief overview censorship
  • An all-too-brief discussion of Funimation's history releasing Dragon Ball, DBZ, and their partnerships with the Ocean Group and Saban Entertainment
  • Translating Kaio-sama to King Kai and/or The Lord of Worlds
  • King Kai's design including his clothing from the Qing Dynasty, and his teashade sunglasses from John Lennon, or is it Mahatma Gandhi? And what is a Mahatma anyway? And who was Mahatma Hirandanda, and what of his Mewad Remayana manuscript?
  • The deity Prince Rama and how he might tie-in to King Kai
  • Catfish? No. What about fireflies? 
  • Genji's Firefly
  • Hitodama and a Return of Ultraman reference to hitodama kaiju Femigon
  • The Tale of Genji or the Genji Clan aka the Minamoto
  • Lamenting to loss of a great pun, but a promise to revisit when we discuss Dragon Ball Daima in the future and delve into Warp Sama
  • and more, including some general pop culture, trivia, and editorializing, as usual 

Join us as we continue to uncover the cultural meanings, publication facts, inspirations and more behind the wildly popular Dragon Ball franchise.

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