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June 27, 2025 52 mins
In this episode of 'Finding Hope in the Climate Crisis,' host Michelle Lewis interviews Margaret Rubega, a professor and expert in ornithology. They discuss Margaret's unique research on birds, including monk parakeets, chimney swifts, and hummingbirds. The conversation covers Margaret's experience of being unexpectedly involved in a significant conservation battle in Eastern California, where she studied the impact of water export on bird populations. They explore the complex relationship between biomechanics, foraging, and feeding in birds and their ability to adapt to environmental changes. Michelle and Margaret share personal anecdotes about bird watching and the challenges of conservation work. They highlight the importance of understanding and honoring the intrinsic value of birds and the interconnectedness of ecosystems. The episode concludes with Margaret emphasizing that hope is a choice and discussing the importance of addressing short-term costs to enable long-term climate solutions.

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