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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome everyone.
Welcome back to another episodeat the Pagan Preacher.
I hope everybody's had a goodweek.
I know it's been a busy week.
Spirit today wants to talkabout some of the things that
are going on in our world andhow we can apply these things to
our daily lives.
We've got a lot of things goingon around the world that some

(00:24):
people agree with, some peopledisagree with.
Without going into realpolitics or anything of that
nature, who said she saidanything else of that nature?
What we want to talk abouttoday is who we are as humanity,
who we are as a people andwhere we have come.

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In all the years that we haveknown that we've existed.
Religion is still the biggesttool of division in our world.
But is it really religion or isit the extremists within the

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religions?
You know, religion in itselfcan be a good thing.
It can help us.
It can help us to live our life.
It can help us to understand.
It can help us.
It can help us to live our life.
It can help us to understand.
It can help us to understandspiritual things and even
physical things as it applies toour life.

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But if we're not careful, we canuse it a tool to exclude people
, to eliminate people from theequation, you know, to kind of
separate them, to put them intheir own little space and

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others in their little space,causing divisions within the
body of humanity.
That are the reason that wedon't have world peace today.
You know world peace is verysimple and it is despite what so
many theologians, theologiansand philophicers will say.

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I'm kind of getting tongue-tied, but you know it is simple and
even right now I feel spirittrying to move into this
conversation even deeper.
So remember to go back throughInto this conversation even
deeper.
So Remember to go back through,maybe listen to what Spirit

(02:50):
says and try to get the deepermeanings Behind what is said in
this podcast, because there's alot to be said, a lot of people
disagreeing and re-agreeing andwhatever else.
But we have confusion, don't we?
We have confusion all over theworld, people backbiting and

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hurting each other, online,offline and everywhere.
Just absolute chaos.
And it's caused by falseinformation, propaganda and evil
forces that want to keep usseparated.
And those evil forces workwithin religion to the highest,

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because they tell us withincertain religions that other
religions are bad.
And those people, people, thosereligions, you know we can't
work together.
In fact, some of the somereligions even tell us to

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eliminate those people if needed.
You know, we have to understandthat religions are the basis of
spiritual encounters of otherpeople, where people have
written down their experiencesand through those experiences
collected, people createreligion and then they try to
take those experiences of otherpeople and try to apply those

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experiences of what's happeningto their particular life.
And that doesn't always work,because we all have different
paths, we all have differentgifts within us and we all have
different purposes.
That's part of the problem withsociety anymore is we're not
fulfilling our purposes.
We're merely going to work,working a job solely to pay the

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bills, solely to live withoutliving.
You know, we have completelyforgot who we are and forgot who
or forgot what we are capableof, because so many religions

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want to tell us that we arenothing, that we are beneath,
that we are lower than the low,that a savior, we are worthless,
basically, and that isabsolutely untrue.
Our creator didn't createworthlessness and we do not

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suffer the sins of those in thepast.
You are a separate creation.
You are an entity within itselfand you have divinity within
yourself and you are capable ofeverything that you would ever
care to achieve if you onlybelieved in what is within you

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and what you are indeed capableof.
Most of the confusions we havearound the world are because of
the experiences of others in thepast.
They've written down certainthings.
Most of the time those thingshave been very biased Because of
their particular circumstanceor situation.

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They wrote things in a biasedmanner, so that biasness is put
into modern religion, eventhough that may not truly exist.
But we create these thingswithin the world because we
believe these things, just asindoctrination of certain

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religious parties happens.
We feed them so muchinformation about a particular
information or a religion orwhatever else, and despite all
the evidence and facts aroundthem, they will believe that
indoctrination and will fight toprotect that indoctrination

(07:13):
with their life.
Even if it's not real, even ifit's not true, it's a proven
fact that people will do this,that once a person puts within
their heart that this is fact,this is truth and this is what I
will live by.
No matter how much truth youpresent to them without

(07:35):
spiritual intervention, they arelost to the truth.
That's why indoctrination is sodangerous.
That's why religion in itselfcan be so dangerous.
That's why indoctrination is sodangerous.
That's why religion in itselfcan be so dangerous.
That's why spirituality is free.
Spirituality allows you tosearch.
It allows you to search spiritwithout those religious labels,

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and it also creates far lessconfusion in this world.
Someone asked me the other dayhow do we, how do we judge
between right and wrong, how dowe judge between good and evil?
You know, my response waswisdom and understanding.
Wisdom comes from spirit as itcomes from experience, but

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understanding is something muchdeeper.
Understanding is feeling whatothers feel in their
circumstance, without emotion,that we can unbiasedly pull
ourselves out of where we areand can feel for other people.

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We understand their situation.
We understand the things thatare happening are not always the
cause of one people or oneproblem, but many problems and
several people.
We know that we have evil uponthis earth that seeks to divide

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us and seeks to remove us all ofthe power that we have and to
utilize that power forthemselves.
That's why we have what we havein this world now.
That's why each and every oneof us have to give up every day
and go to work just to put foodon your table, to put clothes on

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your children's back.
We are forced to do thisbecause if we don't, we go
without everything, because ifwe don't we go without
everything, we have putourselves into another slave
state.
And it all comes down to thecore that we forgot who we are

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as a people.
We forgot who we are within us.
We forgot that the kingdom ofGod is within us.
We forgot even the teacherswithin Hindu and Buddhist of
looking in within ourselves.
Even the Egyptians believedthat if we knew who we are, if

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we could look within ourselvesand truly know who we are, the
things that we would be capableof were astonishing.
If we could look withinourselves and truly know who we
are, the things that we would becapable of were astonishing.
But they want to keep you fromunderstanding, they want to keep
you from looking within, andthey want to keep you looking,

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without Telling you, to look tothe heavens and look to other
places to find divinity.
And don't get me wrong thereare those within this guy that
call themselves gods, but theyare not gods.
They are something entirelydifferent.

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And we're not even going to gointo that category, because what
we're talking about is thisdivinity within ourselves and
the real creator, the real Godof creation, because there's a
difference and to enlighten thepeople, to awaken the people to
who they are and how to fix allthese problems around us.

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We have to understand the truthfor what it is.
Many people aren't ready forthe truth.
Many people the truth scaresthem.
Sometimes it's just the factthat we don't want to know the
truth because we might behumiliated or ashamed that you

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know we call certain thingsridiculous and just flat out
crazy.
But they weren't crazy at all,they were real.
You know the book of Enoch outof the Bible was removed and
I've said this many times before.
The book of Enoch talked aboutfallen angels.

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It talked about encounters withother beings, things of that
nature, and the Bible also saysEnoch was a man that walked with
God.
There are many things withEnoch.
That point.
How do I want to say this?
That they removed it from theBible because they didn't want

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you to understand the facts, thetruth.
They want, they don't want youto understand certain things
that might help you get out ofthe religious box.
And I hope I'm saying thisclear enough and I understand
and remember that if you everhave any questions, that you can
message me at any time, callany time and we can talk on the

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telephone, if that's what youchoose.
But this division, this chaosthat is around us, you know, we
look upon the Palestinian peopleright now and the things that
are going on in Gaza and Arafatand all these different things.
We've got people that are onIsrael's side.
We've got people that are onPalestinian people's side.

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We've got just all kinds ofpropaganda coming from all
different kinds of directions.
But why?
Why can we not all cometogether?
Why is it that we fight overland?
Why is it that we fight overproperty and resources, when, if

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we all shared this world andshared its resources together,
there would be no more wars,there would be no more famines,
there would be no moreunnecessary death?
You know, all of us, all wewant in this life is to live,

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isn't it?
And we want to live accordingto what we believe within
ourself.
I'm not talking about justreligion.
I'm talking about how each ofus believe.
We want to be able to live thatfreely, without that
persecution.
Israel feels that it owns thisland because of a book many,

(14:25):
many years ago, written by asupposed author of their own
face, that it was theirs.
But we also know that biblicalreference is in no way can be a
legal document or validation forproof, because it was written
by men and though, yes, it couldhave been inspired by spirit

(14:50):
inspired by God, just like thispodcast is that does not mean
that God, the Creator, god, didjust what they said, but it was
man's emotion of what washappening at that particular
time, for the people in thisland was being taken from them,

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they were being persecuted andthey were being conquered, and
it was written this way to givecomfort to the people that were
around them.
But some of us can put forth aself-fulfilled prophecy.
You know and I also believethat nothing that is done hasn't

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already been done that some ofus have been through this
routine over and over and over,whether you believe
reincarnation or if you believein just this cycle that
continuously turns like a wheel,and we continue to do this
until we finally do it right,until humanity finally evolves

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enough to the point to where itunderstands, and has enough
wisdom to understand that wedon't have to be different.
You know, at one time we wereall one people.
Supposedly, we were all unifiedin a way that we could do

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anything together.
Right and external forces sawthat and was afraid of that and
sought to divide us and separateus, not only in land but in
language, and tries to stop usfrom coming together once again

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to achieve the things that wecan achieve.
That is not the Creator Godthat did that, but the Creator
God is still alive and well andtrying to speak to the people,
because all that is needed isfor us to wake up.
All that is needed is for youto look within yourself and know

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who you are and to know theauthority that's within you,
know the things that you canchange simply by thinking it,
knowing it, believing it andwalking it.
The palestinian people deserveto be free.
They deserve to live the waythey choose and they deserve the

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land that they are on.
Nobody's ever going to tell methat they don't deserve that
land because it was somebodyelse's 3,000 years ago.
If you were born there and yourparents were born there and
their parents were born thereand their parents were born
there, you are a citizen of thatland period.
But these wars have been goingback and forth Russia and the

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Ukraine and just all over theworld and if we look, if we
truly look at the truth, it hasnothing to do with people just
hating each other, but it has.
It's all about power andresources and dominance that the
people that are in higherpositions within this world seek

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to remain in those positions,and they know, in order to do
that, they have to accomplishcertain things, and they use
humanity as pawns on achessboard certain things, and
they use humanity as pawns on achessboard.
They use religion to controlthe masses, to give them reason
for war, to give them reason tohate and to give them excuse for

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division.
Why can't we as a people simplycome together and understand
that, just like your Bible saysthat you need no man to teach
you, for Spirit will teach youall things, can you hear that

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within your heart that Spiritwill teach you all things?
But you have to be open tospirit.
Now I'm not talking aboutgiving your life over to Jesus
or or whatever else, or whateverticket, religion or faith or
practice you are, but I'mtalking about the spirit within

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you.
When you begin to listen toyour inner self, listen to your
conscious, listen to the thingsthat are happening around you,
when you feel certain things andyou see certain things and
begin to relate certain things,understand that that is spirit
talking to you, moving withinyou trying to show you the truth

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that you already know.
You just don't realize.
You know, but the information,the power, everything is already
within you.
Most of us in this world, wewalk around like empty
containers because we don't evenknow who we are.
You don't even know the powerthat's within you Empty

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containers, walking around likerobots, completely unaware of
who they are and what they areand the divinity within
themselves.
Religion is the key, the keyelement in all of this suffering
and all of this pain andanguish throughout this world,

(20:32):
when we can lay down our dogmaand our doctrine and simply lift
up humanity and love people.
You know, even your Bible saysGod is love, god is love.
So why do we see so much lovedevastating an entire people?

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Why do we see genocide?
Why do we see people starvingto death?
Why churches grow and grow andgrow and grow?
Billion dollar churches andbillion dollar temples
throughout this world, evenbillion dollar muslim temples,
christian churches and all theseother different religions?

(21:20):
We spend so much money onreligion, religion, religion,
and we've all lost religion,religion, religion, and we've
all lost the heart of what it'sall about in the first place
Loving creation, taking care ofMother Earth and working
together for a greater causethan just our own particular

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wants and desires and that ofour individual countries.
What if we all just cametogether and worked as one?
Think of the things that wewould accomplish.
We would have free, cleanenergy, there would be no
starvation, there would be nohomelessness.
Everyone in this world wouldhave purpose.

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Everyone in this world wouldhave a smile on their face
because I beginning tounderstand the things, the way
things were meant to be in thefirst place, before we handed
over our lives to evil forcesfor certain luxuries within this

(22:31):
world.
Sometimes it's maybe it's backto go back to the old ways, you
know, back to the old ways whereeven communities helped each
other.
They didn't have to go to thelocal church Because everybody
would just help each other.
Period didn't have to go to thelocal church because everybody
would just help each other.
Period Neighbor helped neighbor.

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If they seen somebody in theircommunity that was going hungry,
then they gathered together andthey fed them.
If somebody in the communityhad a bad roof on their home and
couldn't afford it, they wouldcome together and fix that
person's roof and they wouldn'task for anything in return other
than the fact that if somebodyelse had a need that they would

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help in that need too.
We as a world can come togetherin a way that this financial
system that we have today.
It's totally unnecessary andcompletely, completely the wrong

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way to go in our society.
But it takes courage, it takesa brave soul not only to say
that you want change, but tohelp make that change.
I'm saying that we can live ina world without money.
We can live in a world that isunified in the common interest.

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We can live in a world thatlives on mutual respect of
differences, that we can respecteach other and we can respect
each other's right to choose.
And we can respect each otherand we can respect each other's
right to choose.
And we can live together andempower society to be all that
it truly, truly can be Religion.

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Even here in the United States,we have a church system that all
calls themselves Christians,but there are dozens of
different denominations.
How, I ask you, does spiritdivide themselves into many

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pieces?
Spirit doesn't divide the truth.
The truth is one.
The fact that there are manydifferent denominations within
the Christian church in thiscountry shows that there is
inconsistencies, mistranslationsand confusion, because you have

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people that are trying to taketheir own, each individual
personal lives and apply it tothat religion and apply it to
religion.
You can only apply it toyourself.
Your path is your path and yourneighbor's path is your

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neighbor's path.
Whether you both classifyyourself under the same
religious label or not, yourpath will be different.
Your thoughts and concerns andwants will be different, because
your purpose is different.
We want to bring about worldpeace.
We need to do simply like yourBible says Don't worry about the

(25:53):
stick or whatever else in yourbrother's eye.
Focus on the one that's withinyours.
Now, I know that's not exact,but you understand what I mean.
We need to look within themirror.
Look at yourself rather thanlook at your neighbor.
Focus on your own path and wecan find peace With our neighbor

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.
We merely work together forcommunity.
If someone asks you youropinion on certain things, you
offer it, but you offer it inlove, not judgment.
If we don't judge, we don'tcondemn, we don't ridicule.
We allow each person to be thatperson as long as it's not
hurting people unwillingly.

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Allow people to be people.
Peace is possible, but we haveto get rid of the confusion, the
easiest way to get rid of thatconfusion and the easiest way to
get rid of that confusion is tolay the religion down and
simply walk in spirituality.
Spirituality, god is spirit.

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The kingdom of God is withinyou.
Spirit, all these religions.
Buddha it's all about lookingwithin you.
Hindu and the mantraseverything is about looking
within us.
Yoga, the chakras, everythingwithin us.

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Look within yourself, withinyourself.
Listen to that voice that'swithin you.
Don't be afraid to walk with it, to judge it within yourself.
You're not judging others.
You're judging what you'refeeling, judging what you're
listening to within yourself,whether it be good or bad, right

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or wrong, because you will knowif you truly take the time to
listen and to focus on it.
You'll know whether it's rightor wrong, good or bad, and the
next step is to act on it.
If you feel that it's bad,don't do it.
If you feel that it needs to bedone and it's good, but you're

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scared, still do it.
World peace is possible, but itstarts with you and it starts
with me, and it starts withlaying down the things that have
divided us this confusion, thischaos, this anger, this wrath,
all caused by things that werecompletely unnecessary and flat

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out stupid.
We can come together, bringpeace to Palestine, bring peace
to the world.
Sit down, compromise in waysthat you can Lay down the
weapons of war and you mightfind.

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Peace is only beyond that door.
Be blessed everybody andblessed be.

Speaker 2 (29:09):
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