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September 23, 2025 69 mins

What if the deepest medicine you’re seeking has been alive within you all along?


In this week’s Fire and Soul, I sit down with my dear sister Dr. Cass Naumann—doctor of Chinese medicine, ordained Daoist priestess, musician, and ceremonialist—for a profoundly moving conversation on the sacred alchemy of healing.


Cass shares her remarkable journey from musician to healer, and how the initiations of grief, devotion, and spiritual cultivation shaped her path. We explore why ceremony matters so deeply in these times, how our bodies carry the keys to transformation, and what it means to activate our “inner pharmacy” of joy, presence, and connection.


This is one of those deeply rich, heart-opening dialogues that feels like a ceremony in itself, and I'm so excited for you to experience it.


🌿 In this episode, you’ll hear us dive into:


  • The moment grief became Cass’s greatest teacher and reoriented her life’s work
  • How she bridges Chinese medicine, Daoist priesthood, and ceremonial wisdom
  • The questions she asks every patient: What brings you joy? and Do you have a spiritual practice?—and why the answers matter
  • Rituals and emotional alchemy practices for transmuting grief, anger, and frustration into virtue
  • Why invisibility, Wu Wei (effortless action), and embodied presence are essential medicine right now
  • The power of ceremony to bring reverence, belonging, and healing into everyday life
  • Cass closes our time with a blessing that will leave you rooted in peace and love


📍 Connect with Dr. Cass

Website: http://doctorcass.com

Instagram: @doctor.cass


📚 Additional Resource

If you feel called to explore the trainings at Trauma and Somatics—the organization Cass and I are currently students of and highly recommend—you can learn more at traumaandsomatics.com


If you decide to move forward with a training, you’re welcome to use the code MICHELLESORRO for a significant savings.


If this conversation nourishes you, share it with a friend and let me know your favorite moment—I love hearing how these dialogues land in your heart.


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