July 1, 2025 • 36 mins
What if the secret to entrepreneurial success isn't working harder, but aligning your life differently? In this eye-opening conversation with Rebecca Elizabeth Whitman – award-winning coach, bestselling author, and host of the Balanced, Beautiful and Abundant podcast – we explore how high-achieving entrepreneurs can escape burnout without sacrificing their ambition.
Rebecca shares her remarkable journey from Princeton graduate to direct sales professional, actress, and multi-faceted entrepreneur. Her philosophy of maintaining 3-5 income streams proved invaluable during the pandemic, allowing her to thrive when her primary revenue source disappeared overnight. This practical approach to financial resilience resonates with anyone seeking greater stability in uncertain times.
The heart of our discussion centers on Rebecca's transformative "Seven Pillars of Abundance" framework. Rather than positioning financial success as the primary goal, she reveals how spirituality, physical health, emotional wellbeing, romantic relationships, and social connections create the foundation from which financial abundance naturally flows. This counterintuitive approach challenges conventional entrepreneurial wisdom that often prioritizes hustle above all else.
For those caught in negative thought patterns, Rebecca offers her powerful "Four A's of Transformation": awareness, acceptance, action, and affirmation. This methodology provides a practical roadmap for shifting from victim mode to victor mindset – illustrated through her own recent experience with a challenging real estate deal. Her refreshing take on time management likens productive work to HIIT training, with intense focus periods followed by intentional recovery.
Perhaps most compelling is Rebecca's client transformation story, where an executive assistant set boundaries with her billionaire boss and unexpectedly catapulted her career to new heights. This narrative powerfully demonstrates how creating balance actually enhances performance rather than diminishing it.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome everyone to the Firing the man podcast, a
show for anyone who wants to betheir own boss.
If you sit in a cubicle everyday and know you are capable of
more, then join us.
This show will help you build abusiness and grow your passive
income streams in just a fewshort hours per day.
And now your hosts, serialentrepreneurs David Shomer and
(00:22):
Ken Wilson entrepreneurs, davidShomer and Ken Wilson.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Welcome back to the Firing the man podcast, where we
talk to bold thinkers, risktakers and business builders who
are taking control of theirfuture and rewriting the rules
of success.
Today's guest is a powerhouseof purpose and transformation.
We're excited to welcomeRebecca Elizabeth Whitman, an
award-winning life coach,best-selling author,
entrepreneur and host of theBalanced, beautiful and Abundant
(00:52):
podcast.
Rebecca is on a mission to helphigh-achieving women and
entrepreneurs go from burnout tobalance, without sacrificing
ambition.
She blends mindset, mastery,spiritual principles and
practical business wisdom tohelp her clients create aligned,
fulfilled and wildly successfullives.
Named one of the top sevenentrepreneurs to watch in 2023
(01:16):
by LA Weekly, rebecca's work hasbeen featured across ABC, cbs
and in publications like YahooFinance and Authority Magazine,
but what makes her message sopowerful is her transparency.
She's been through the grind,the hustle and the heartache,
and she's here to share the realpath to sustainable success.
(01:37):
If you're building a businessbut tired of burning out or
wondering how to scale withoutlosing yourself, this
conversation is for you.
Let's dive in.
Rebecca.
Welcome to the show.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Thank you, David.
It's great to be here.
That was beautiful intro.
Thank you for those kind words.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Absolutely, absolutely.
So, to start things off, canyou share with our audience a
little bit about you and yourbackground and path in the
entrepreneurial world?
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Absolutely Well.
I graduated from PrincetonUniversity with honors.
I moved to New York City.
I thought I wanted to work inentertainment and they told me I
would be an unpaid intern.
So I said, if I'm not going toget paid, I might as well be an
actress, and I started takingacting classes and to support
myself.
I answered as well, be anactress.
And I started taking actingclasses and to support myself.
I answered an ad in ancienthistory when you actually
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answered out in the paper, andit was for a direct sales job.
That took me on a merry chaseof 20 different cities all over
the Midwest and Southeast.
From there I went to aninternet startup company and I
finally had enough money to moveto LA to pursue my acting dream
for real in 2001.
(02:50):
I had small parts on big showslike Friends, csi and 24.
And I supported myself in anall commission sales job.
I started to get bored withthat after 20 years and then I
started different side hustles.
So I started a podcast that youmentioned called the Balanced,
Beautiful and Abundant Show.
I started coaching.
(03:12):
I became a bestselling authorand now I just added promoting
wellness products and luxurywellness retreats to my
repertoire of different sidehustles.
So that is my philosophy.
I believe everyone should haveat least three to five streams
of income.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Very nice.
I'm looking forward to divinginto that.
And you know what, why don't weThree to five streams of income
?
Why do you pick that number?
And where have you seen nothaving that causing an issue in
somebody's life?
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Well, grant Cardone says seven to 10 streams of
income.
I think that's a lot to handlefor most people.
I like three to five because,remember, david, when we were in
high school and college we hadthose five subject notebooks
math, science, english history,social studies.
So I feel like our minds aretrained to handle three to five
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different subjects.
We had different homework,different exams to study for and
we could compartmentalize thosesubjects, compartmentalize
those subjects, and I feel likehaving different businesses in
that range of three to fivebusinesses is something that
people can actually enjoywithout getting overwhelmed.
It came in especially handy forme during the pandemic because
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I lost my job at the kids actingschool but I still had my
coaching business I own realestate in LA rental properties
had my coaching business I ownreal estate in LA rental
properties and with the coachingbusiness and the rental
properties and then I addedpromoting wellness products to
that, I was still able tosustain a good lifestyle even
though I lost my mainstream ofincome.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Absolutely.
I think that's something that alot of people went through in
the pandemic and losing thatprimary source of income.
I remember I was working at aCPA firm, which I believe to be
a very conservative choice for acareer Like there will always
be a job for a CPA and I hadmentors being laid off and I've
(05:22):
realized, oh, maybe I am not assafe as I thought, and so I
think that three to five is verymanageable and, yeah, I really
like that answer.
So, as I mentioned in the intro, I am a big fan of your podcast
and one of the things that I'velistened to you talk about is
the seven pillars of abundance,a framework for success, and so
(05:47):
my question is what are thoseseven pillars and how can
time-strapped entrepreneursstart applying that framework
without slowing their momentum?
Speaker 3 (05:56):
I love your two-part questions and thank you for
being a fan of the podcast.
That makes me so happy.
So the seven pillars ofabundance framework is a way to
live your life through alignmentand to overcome burnout, and
they are an order of importancein my opinion.
So the first area isspirituality.
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I'm a huge believer in having amorning practice, having a
relationship with the divine,whatever you call it God, Jesus,
Allah, universe, nature, dogs,whatever anything that's not you
, that you can have faith in andcommune with, and I believe
having a morning connection setsthe tone for your day.
The second pillar is physical,or health and fitness, and my
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fitness is a non-negotiable.
I believe that health is wealthand when you have health, you
have every business opportunity,love opportunity, social
opportunity at your fingertips.
But when you lose your health,your whole life is about getting
your health back, and somepeople don't ever get it back,
so that is a priority.
The third pillar of abundance,after health, is emotion, and I
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believe that all emotions comefrom scarcity or abundance.
So in our own conversation,either externally with other
people or in our own innerdialogue, we can be saying
there's not enough time, there'snot enough money, there's not
enough clients there's.
You know it's a recession, youknow the stock market crash, or
we can be like there's plenty oftime, there's plenty of money.
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Stocks always go back up,there's plenty of clients.
So it's about switching fromscarcity to abundance, because
if you're in a scarcity mindset,you have no hope of attracting
more money or more clients.
The next pillar, after emotion,is romance, and romance does
affect your finance.
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I don't believe in neutralenergy.
You either have a partner whois lifting you up and supporting
your business goals or they'redragging you down and draining
your energy and detracting fromyour goals.
So if you have someone who'sneutral, to me that is the same
thing as negative.
You want to have a partner thatbelieves in you, cheers you on
and lifts you up.
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After romantic is social, andhaving a group of people that
have what you want and that arewilling to teach you what they
did is crucial.
So whether you have amastermind that you're in is
crucial.
So whether you have amastermind that you're in a
coach you're part of anynetworking groups or clubs.
Having that network is soimportant in the business world
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Because when you're a loneentrepreneur trying to figure
out by yourself, everything byyourself, it can be really
lonely and really difficult.
After social is financial, andfinancial is just one way of
having abundance.
People think I'm an abundancecoach.
I teach financial Finance isthe last piece of the puzzle.
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When you have a spiritualpractice, when you have friends,
when your emotions are high,vibe and of abundance.
When you have a great romance,you are going to attract people,
places.
When you have a great romance,you are going to attract people,
places, opportunities,businesses.
Case point I attracted you tome.
I didn't go after you and say,can I be on your podcast?
You came to me and asked me canyou be on my podcast?
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And that is when you becomemagnetic and that's why I call
myself the magnetic abundancementor, because I teach people
how to align their life in theseseven areas and, instead of
hustle and grind, you canmagnetize financial
opportunities.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
I really like that perspective and one of the
things that some people may havethought of the seven pillars of
abundance may have beenstandard operating procedures.
It may have been looking atyour P&L or balancing cash flow
statements, but it was reallyall of the things that surround
business, like surround you asthe entrepreneur, and I like how
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you put those in order.
And so, looking at thatframework, where do you think a
lot of entrepreneurs go sideways?
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Uh, the three big ones are money, health and
romance.
So I think entrepreneurs eitherget so hyper-focused on their
business that they don't havetime to date, or they neglect
their family and their lovedones, or they get sidetracked,
like they get in a negativerelationship and they put all
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their energy in the relationshipand saving it and their
business falls by the wayside,or they put all their energy
into their business and they lettheir health go and then they
don't have the energy or thevitality to get to the next
level of their business, becauseenergy is the number one thing
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other than money that fuels abusiness.
If you are exhausted and tiredall the time, you're not going
to have enough energy to getyour business to the next level.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Yeah, I really like that.
And what would you say?
Are some like early warningsigns that my life is out of
balance and I need to coursecorrect my life?
Speaker 3 (11:10):
is out of balance and I need to course correct.
Those would be just exhaustionnot wanting to get out of bed in
the morning.
Addiction avoidance like notwanting to open your bills when
they come in the mail or notwanting to answer the phone
because you think it might be acreditor Just a feeling of
(11:32):
overwhelm, like I can't geteverything done that I need to
get done.
Feeling of hopelessness, like Idon't know what to do.
I'm just going to end up likebeing homeless or working at
Starbucks because I can't figurethis thing out.
I mean, those are all signsthat you're either in burnout or
on the road to burnout.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
I mean those are all signs that you're either in
burnout or on the road toburnout.
Yeah, absolutely, and I wouldsay there's a lot of people
listening that have, and myselfincluded, have definitely went
through one of those.
I personally let my bills stackup.
I hate checking my mail and I'msitting at my desk looking at a
(12:10):
pile of mail right now, and soit's funny that you mentioned
that one.
But no, those are good warningsigns.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
You can write thank you on your bills, because when
you thank money for being there,that you have enough money to
pay your bills, Even if youdon't write thank you on the
bills.
Because money is just energyand when you have a dreadful
relationship with it, you'repushing it away instead of
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welcoming it and think of moneyas like if money was a lover and
you'd be like oh, my lover'shere today, oh God, I do not
want to see them.
They're just like so annoying,Then they're not going to keep
coming around.
So we get to change ourrelationship with money.
Take the negative emotion outand it's just energy.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Yeah, absolutely, absolutely One of the things.
As you were going through theseven pillars, I thought you had
a very cool take onspirituality.
It's just believe in something.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Anything, anything, that's not you.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Right, right, and it seems to me like spirituality
oftentimes comes from yourparents.
It's something that you kind ofbrought up either in a religion
or whatever it may be.
And so, for those listeners whodon't have a spiritual practice
but know that it's importantand want to develop one, what
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would be a good way to take thatfirst step?
Speaker 3 (13:44):
I would say, to set aside time in the morning to
just practice any kind of ritual.
It could be a ritual aroundyour coffee or tea, just holding
it, feeling the warmth, justbeing still, even if it's just
for a few seconds, taking deepbreaths.
I'm a huge believer injournaling.
(14:04):
A lot of high performancestudies have shown that people
who journal and write down andprocess their reality they do a
lot better in life because theyare actually like speeding up
the process and what you writedown goes into your subconscious
.
So I actually have a gift foryour audience.
I have a free abundance journalthat has really helped me take
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my negative thinking and turn itinto positive.
So it's been my number one tool.
I have journaled every day for30 years and it has turned me
into a very positive thinker.
But my default can go back tonegative.
Like I just completed a very,in my opinion, toxic real estate
deal.
Like they just kept asking mefor more and more and more and
(14:51):
it's, it's went from a seller'smarket in LA, where I just moved
from, to a buyer's market and Iwas just like I just wanted to
sell my condo and be done andstart my new life in Cincinnati.
It's like can you do the floors?
Can you do the paint?
I don't like the color paint.
Can you paint again?
Oh, by the way, at the end,when everything signed and
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sealed, nobody told me that Iwas paying $10,000 for the
seller's, for the buyer's,closing costs.
I got very toxic and negative.
But resilience is not aboutnever getting down, it's how
fast you can bounce back up.
So, through this journalpractice and through having a
spiritual practice, even thoughI did go completely negative, I
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was able to be positive the nextday and show up and, you know,
be my best self.
So that's the difference.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
I really like that, and it seems like, as business
owners, you are often met withthose types of challenges almost
on a weekly basis.
I can tell you, as a businessowner, it seems like all the
problems come to me, all theproblems that can't be solved,
funnel up to me and that can betaxing at times.
And so can you talk a littlebit about that mindset shift and
(16:06):
maybe talk about that realestate deal.
And maybe talk about that realestate deal, what was it that
you were saying to yourself thenext morning, or what were some
things that you were thinkingthat helped take that toxic
situation and turn it into apositive?
Speaker 3 (16:20):
Well, I was in the victim mode, like you know.
Oh, why couldn't I have sold it?
You know, two years ago, whenLA was a seller's market and you
know I'm so upset that theeconomy has tanked and I was
just, oh my God, this buyer is,like you know, taking advantage
of me because she knows I needto sell it.
(16:41):
So I was in a victimconversation and I had to switch
it from victim to victor.
Like, hey, I walked away withalmost $200,000.
That's amazing.
Like that's almost like twoyears of work and I got to live
in this beautiful condo threemiles from the ocean and I had
so many happy memories and Iused every inch of the condo for
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having like the best lifestyleI could in LA and I had three
beautiful dogs and I had twomarriages in the condo and it
was great.
And not everybody gets a chanceto walk away from a real estate
deal in the plus.
And if I would not have bentover backwards to accommodate
this person, who knows how longit would have been until I sold
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it again.
And my mortgage was, with allthe HOA dues and the taxes, was
over $4,000 a month the moneythat I extra money that I had to
spend on fixing it up for herand paying her closing costs.
I mean, in three months of justhaving the condo empty, I would
have been paying more than thatanyway.
So that's an example of how Itook my negative thinking and
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reframed it to positive.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Is there a practice because you say victim mode and
I think everybody I was invictim mode last night as I was
complaining to my spouse aboutsomething going on at work Is
there a particular practice orsomething that you do to kind of
call that out or bring it tothe surface when you feel that
coming on, because I think it'sa natural response?
Speaker 3 (18:15):
Sure, well, I would like to challenge everybody
listening, including you, David,to do a 24-hour no complaining.
Challenge, from the second thatyou listen to me, say this to
24 hours later.
Challenge yourself to notcomplain for 24 hours and every
time you hear yourselfcomplaining, reframe it and
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switch it into positivity, andto affirming whatever it is that
you want to achieve.
Because I think complaining itis natural, it is part of being
an entrepreneur, because it's aharder path, but it does create
neural pathways in our mind andwe get used to complaining and
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we can really, through a lot ofmental discipline, change these
neural pathways.
So I have a framework calledthe four A's of transformation
and let's use, for example, whatwere you complaining about last
night, david?
Speaker 2 (19:13):
A particular employee and them not understanding
instructions that I've providedseveral times.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
Okay.
So the four A's oftransformation are as follows.
The first A is awareness.
I am being negative andcomplaining about this employee.
That's the first A awareness.
I am being negative andcomplaining about this employee.
That's the first A awareness.
The second A is acceptance.
Don't beat yourself up, don'tsay you know what.
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I've been listening toRebecca's Balanced, beautiful
and Abundant show and I knowbetter than to complain to my
wife because I'm just going toattract more negative employees
and I can't believe I'mcomplaining about this person
again and giving them free rentin my mind.
So don't judge yourself, justaccept it that you're in a
negative conversation about thisemployee.
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The third A is action.
What can I do?
Can I, you know, send thisperson an email and say I'd like
to take you to coffee tomorrow?
Can you set up a Zoom and sayI'd like to do a performance
review?
Can I, you know, talk to theirsupervisor and set up a meeting
with the three of us Like whatcan I do?
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What action can I take?
And then the fourth A isaffirmation.
Every time I want to complainabout this employee, first of
all, if you want to keep them,you still can fire them because
you're the boss.
But if you do want to keep them, you can say an affirmation
like so-and-so is doing the bestthat he or she can with the
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knowledge, strength andawareness that he has, or
something like.
If you want to attract adifferent type of employee, you
can say I love my lowmaintenance, intelligent
employees.
Something like that.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
I like it.
I like it, and that veryexercise would have put me in a
totally different headspace lastnight than I was, and so I
really like that, the four A's.
So, continuing the conversationabout just mindset and
entrepreneurs, I have found andI fall into this category for
sure is getting stuck intohustle mode, where you have a
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list of things as long as yourarm that you'll never get done
on time or as quickly as you'dlike.
It seems that a lot of problemscome back to you and I have met
, and I personally have hadperiods of time through my
entrepreneurial journey whereI've been in a dark spot, and so
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for you know, speaking to ourentrepreneurial audience, what
are some ways to get out of thatgrind mindset and more into an
abundance type mindset, withoutsacrificing growth, because I
think a lot of the sources ofpain are I want to grow, I want
to succeed, I'd like to makemore money, I'd like to provide
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more opportunities for myemployees, and and or maybe
that's just the mentalgymnastics that you go through
to justify pulling all-nightersbut what would be your thoughts
on that transformation?
Speaker 3 (22:20):
I mean, even though my podcast is called Balance,
beautiful and Abundant, I don'tbelieve that you can have all
seven areas of life perfectlybalanced.
I teach time management kind oflike a HIIT training class high
intensity, interval trainingout.
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When you're doing your intervalyou're either like lifting
weights or doing cardio and it'sreally, really intense, and
then you take like a 30 or 45second break and then you go
back and you do another set ofexercise.
So I tell my business coachingclients to structure their week
that way when you are in a focusmode, you are focused, you are
pedal to the metal, you are nottaking anything but business
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calls, you are completely likegoing for it and applying all
your energy, but then you wantto take a break and then come
back to it.
So I really like the Pomodoromethod 25 minutes of
concentrated effort and a fiveminute break.
That helps prevent burnout.
And then, as far as just how toset up your whole week so you
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don't burn out, you want to haveyour focus days where you are
pedal to the metal, like youcould have one day or two days a
week where you are working, youknow eight or 10 hours in a row
, but then you have at least oneother day, or if you don't even
have the one day, have a halfday where you just have your own
schedule and you kind of justbreak up your week that way so
you don't burn out.
I like to schedule the hardermeetings first thing in the
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morning, when you have moreenergy and you know the things
that take a lot of energy.
Get those out of the way in thefirst half of the day and then
you can do some of the otherthings and later on in the day
that don't take as much energy.
And then I believe in the threeD's do it, delegate it or ditch
it.
So when somebody texts you andit's an important text or email
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I don't know about you, david,but I get thousands of like
emails in a day and if I don'trespond to it it gets completely
buried.
So I say, if it's reallyimportant, like a paying client,
like a money call return thetext or the email in the moment.
It'll take you 30 seconds andit'll be done Delegate it if you
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have enough money to delegateand it sounds like you have a
big team.
So delegate to somebody on yourteam.
Quickly send them an email,forward the email.
Can you handle this or ditch itLike if it's just something
that is mundane and you thinkyou should be doing it, but it's
not really moving your ballforward in the court?
Just get rid of it.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
I really like that.
I really like that.
What would you say are somethings that you should not
outsource, Things that you knowas you're running your business,
that you should remain hands-on.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
That is a great question.
I think anything that showcasesyour story and your brand,
because people will buy from youif they understand your story
and if they understand yourbrand.
So I wouldn't delegate yoursocial media so much that you're
never like talking on it andit's just like graphics of other
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people.
It should definitely take sometime to create your own content
and your own voice.
Do some stories, do somestories.
As far as emails, I do delegatea lot of emails.
Chatgbt is my friend.
I don't love emails but I'vealso trained ChatGBT to totally
understand my voice.
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So, like my ChatGBT, I call herwing woman and she totally gets
me and she gets my tone of myvoice.
So she, like, has meimpersonated in a great way.
So, yeah, I have chat GPT, domy emails.
But I think any content talking, podcasts, stages, stories, all
that stuff it should not bedelegated.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
I think that's I really like that.
And on the, particularly onsocial media, I know that has
been one thing in the past thatI have outsourced and we just
haven't gotten the result that Iwould have hoped, because it
wasn't my voice or, you know, asthe owner of the brand.
I really understood it, Ireally understood the customer
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and it seems like things do getlost in translation and so on.
The email management I haven'tmet an entrepreneur that isn't a
little bit overwhelmed withtheir email.
Any pro tips on using AI ortools that make that delegation
easier?
Speaker 3 (27:00):
My email is so unmanageable.
I probably have at least 65,000unread emails and it's
unmanageable.
I probably have at least 65,000unread emails and it's
unmanageable.
I mean literally, you buy a cupof coffee somewhere and you end
up on their email list, so Iwouldn't be the right person to
ask.
I mean my email's unmanageable.
If you want to get me, text me.
Don't email me or send me a DMon social.
(27:21):
I manage my own DMs, I do.
I just left MailChimp and Iswitched to GoHighLevel and I
really like GoHighLevel becausethere's so many different things
it can do.
It can text, you can have amembership landing page.
I just feel like that is gonnabe next level for me and my team
to learn all the facets ofGoHighLevel.
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So that's what I'm doing withmy email.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Very nice.
Yeah, I also.
I'm in the tens of thousands ofemails and um.
Yeah, Listeners, if you haveanything posted in the comments,
we'd love, love those pro tips.
So, um, can you share a clienttransformation story that really
illustrates how balancing lifeoutside of business actually
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helped the business scale faster?
Speaker 3 (28:10):
I had a client and she reached out to me because
she was not able to setboundaries with her boss.
Her boss ran a billion dollarprivate equity firm and she was
the right hand woman to her bossand she was living in his full
house and basically on call 24seven because he was paying her
(28:34):
more money than she had evermade.
So, through my coaching, sheset boundaries.
She actually had a workschedule.
These are the hours that I'mavailable.
She actually had a workschedule.
These are the hours that I'mavailable.
She moved off his property, shegot her own beautiful house and
you would think she'd be able todo less work for the boss.
But she just planned thisamazing party for the company
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for their 30 years anniversaryof being in business and she had
a huge budget.
So she booked a big bandAerosmith.
Aerosmith asked if she coulduse this, if they could use this
, to promote their charityJanie's Fund, and she said yes.
Then they invited someone fromCheap Trick, someone from the
Black Crows, someone from GunsN' Roses, and this party that
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was supposed to be just the 30thanniversary party turned into
this huge multi-million dollarcharity event.
It's in Rolling Stone.
So all of that came from thisincredibly high performance from
this executive assistant.
All came from her ability tosay no to her boss at the
beginning and move away from him.
So you'd think that theopposite would happen, but she
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excelled and now she's likeshe's a rock star in the event
planning world now Outstanding.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
That is a really, really good story.
Who are the types of clientsthat you typically work with?
Speaker 3 (30:10):
I love to work with high achieving women and a few
good men who are burned out,overwhelmed, feel like they are
hustling and grinding and notgetting the results.
They feel stuck at a plateauand they don't know what they're
doing wrong.
And I am committed to givingthese type of people the tools
to have all seven areas of theirlife in alignment so they can
achieve success while actuallybeing happy, and achieve it
through aligning in these sevenkey areas of life and not
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through the hustle and the grind.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
Outstanding, outstanding.
Well, before we wrap up theshow, we have something called
the fire round.
It's four questions that we askevery guest at the end of the
show.
Are you ready?
Speaker 3 (30:46):
I love this stuff.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Yeah, bring it, fire round, it's four questions that
we ask every guest at the end ofthe show.
Are you ready?
Speaker 3 (30:51):
I love this stuff.
Yeah, bring it All right.
What's your favorite book?
The Four Agreements by DonMiguel Ruiz.
And the agreement that I workon every day is not to take
things personally, because, asan entrepreneur, you hear a lot
of no and a lot of rejection,and it's a lifelong mission for
me to not take things personally.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Very nice.
What are your hobbies?
Speaker 3 (31:12):
My hobbies are tennis , my obsession with labs I'm on
my third lab, I've had a yellow,a chocolate and now I have my
black lab and working out withmy husband, we love to lift
weights together.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
Very nice.
What is one thing that you donot miss about working for the
man?
Speaker 3 (31:33):
I have not worked for the man my entire life.
I have been an entrepreneur oran all commission, 100%
commission salesperson my wholelife and I have avoided working
for the man because I have avery rebellious nature and the
number one most important thingto me is my freedom and I have
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created my life to maximize myfreedom.
Sometimes it's been a littlescary, you know, like we talked
about, there's a roller coasterof sometimes there's too much
month left over at the end ofthe money, but in general I have
had more than enough abundanceand I've had a lot of fun on
this wild roller coaster.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
I have to say, out of 282 episodes, I will call you a
unicorn.
I think there's only been twoor three other people who have
never worked for the man.
So applause to you, and it'sgood for people to know that
that's a path that you don'tneed to fire the man if you
never go to work for them.
(32:35):
So outstanding, thank you.
Final question what do youthink sets apart successful
entrepreneurs from those whogive up, fail or never get
started?
Speaker 3 (32:48):
Successful entrepreneurs have a no matter
what attitude.
They will figure it out, nomatter what.
They won't quit, no matter what, they will find the right
mentors, whether they'rewatching YouTube videos,
listening to awesome podcastslike Firing the man or doing a
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coaching program, they just havea no matter what attitude and
it's like they're going tofigure it out or die trying, and
they won't give up.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
Very nice, very nice.
Now, if people are interestedin getting in touch with you or
working with you through yourcoaching program, what's the
best way?
Speaker 3 (33:28):
Yeah, I would love to offer you guys that abundance
journal.
It's been my number one toolfor transformation.
That is going to be in a linkthat I will be sending you David
called pillario forward slash,rebecca E Whitman.
It's also in my Instagram bioforward slash, rebecca E Whitman
.
It's also in my Instagram bio.
Everything that I have going onis in my pillar link.
I have a really fun challengecalled the 777 Challenge seven
(33:53):
pillars of abundance in sevendays and I've give you a quick
five to 10 minute assignment toalign that life and take it from
where you're at to a level 10,and it'll definitely transform
your life in seven days.
And then I also offer a freebreakthrough call to help you
get your personalizedaffirmation.
So whichever area you feelstuck kind of like I walked
(34:15):
David through you will get thatpersonalized affirmation to get
you unstuck.
So all of that is in my pillarlink.
You can find me on Instagram atRebecca E Whitman, linkedin and
Facebook under Rebecca Whitman.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
Outstanding and to our audience.
I will post links to all ofthat in the show notes.
Rebecca, it's been an absolutepleasure getting to know you and
thank you for your time todayand we're looking forward to
staying in touch.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
Thank you so much for having me on your show, David.
It's been a great conversation.
Welcome everyone to the Firing the man podcast, a
show for anyone who wants to betheir own boss.
If you sit in a cubicle everyday and know you are capable of
more, then join us.
This show will help you build abusiness and grow your passive
income streams in just a fewshort hours per day.
And now your hosts, serialentrepreneurs David Shomer and
(00:22):
Ken Wilson entrepreneurs, davidShomer and Ken Wilson.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Welcome back to the Firing the man podcast, where we
talk to bold thinkers, risktakers and business builders who
are taking control of theirfuture and rewriting the rules
of success.
Today's guest is a powerhouseof purpose and transformation.
We're excited to welcomeRebecca Elizabeth Whitman, an
award-winning life coach,best-selling author,
entrepreneur and host of theBalanced, beautiful and Abundant
(00:52):
podcast.
Rebecca is on a mission to helphigh-achieving women and
entrepreneurs go from burnout tobalance, without sacrificing
ambition.
She blends mindset, mastery,spiritual principles and
practical business wisdom tohelp her clients create aligned,
fulfilled and wildly successfullives.
Named one of the top sevenentrepreneurs to watch in 2023
(01:16):
by LA Weekly, rebecca's work hasbeen featured across ABC, cbs
and in publications like YahooFinance and Authority Magazine,
but what makes her message sopowerful is her transparency.
She's been through the grind,the hustle and the heartache,
and she's here to share the realpath to sustainable success.
(01:37):
If you're building a businessbut tired of burning out or
wondering how to scale withoutlosing yourself, this
conversation is for you.
Let's dive in.
Rebecca.
Welcome to the show.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Thank you, David.
It's great to be here.
That was beautiful intro.
Thank you for those kind words.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Absolutely, absolutely.
So, to start things off, canyou share with our audience a
little bit about you and yourbackground and path in the
entrepreneurial world?
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Absolutely Well.
I graduated from PrincetonUniversity with honors.
I moved to New York City.
I thought I wanted to work inentertainment and they told me I
would be an unpaid intern.
So I said, if I'm not going toget paid, I might as well be an
actress, and I started takingacting classes and to support
myself.
I answered as well, be anactress.
And I started taking actingclasses and to support myself.
I answered an ad in ancienthistory when you actually
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answered out in the paper, andit was for a direct sales job.
That took me on a merry chaseof 20 different cities all over
the Midwest and Southeast.
From there I went to aninternet startup company and I
finally had enough money to moveto LA to pursue my acting dream
for real in 2001.
(02:50):
I had small parts on big showslike Friends, csi and 24.
And I supported myself in anall commission sales job.
I started to get bored withthat after 20 years and then I
started different side hustles.
So I started a podcast that youmentioned called the Balanced,
Beautiful and Abundant Show.
I started coaching.
(03:12):
I became a bestselling authorand now I just added promoting
wellness products and luxurywellness retreats to my
repertoire of different sidehustles.
So that is my philosophy.
I believe everyone should haveat least three to five streams
of income.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Very nice.
I'm looking forward to divinginto that.
And you know what, why don't weThree to five streams of income
?
Why do you pick that number?
And where have you seen nothaving that causing an issue in
somebody's life?
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Well, grant Cardone says seven to 10 streams of
income.
I think that's a lot to handlefor most people.
I like three to five because,remember, david, when we were in
high school and college we hadthose five subject notebooks
math, science, english history,social studies.
So I feel like our minds aretrained to handle three to five
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different subjects.
We had different homework,different exams to study for and
we could compartmentalize thosesubjects, compartmentalize
those subjects, and I feel likehaving different businesses in
that range of three to fivebusinesses is something that
people can actually enjoywithout getting overwhelmed.
It came in especially handy forme during the pandemic because
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I lost my job at the kids actingschool but I still had my
coaching business I own realestate in LA rental properties
had my coaching business I ownreal estate in LA rental
properties and with the coachingbusiness and the rental
properties and then I addedpromoting wellness products to
that, I was still able tosustain a good lifestyle even
though I lost my mainstream ofincome.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Absolutely.
I think that's something that alot of people went through in
the pandemic and losing thatprimary source of income.
I remember I was working at aCPA firm, which I believe to be
a very conservative choice for acareer Like there will always
be a job for a CPA and I hadmentors being laid off and I've
(05:22):
realized, oh, maybe I am not assafe as I thought, and so I
think that three to five is verymanageable and, yeah, I really
like that answer.
So, as I mentioned in the intro, I am a big fan of your podcast
and one of the things that I'velistened to you talk about is
the seven pillars of abundance,a framework for success, and so
(05:47):
my question is what are thoseseven pillars and how can
time-strapped entrepreneursstart applying that framework
without slowing their momentum?
Speaker 3 (05:56):
I love your two-part questions and thank you for
being a fan of the podcast.
That makes me so happy.
So the seven pillars ofabundance framework is a way to
live your life through alignmentand to overcome burnout, and
they are an order of importancein my opinion.
So the first area isspirituality.
(06:18):
I'm a huge believer in having amorning practice, having a
relationship with the divine,whatever you call it God, Jesus,
Allah, universe, nature, dogs,whatever anything that's not you
, that you can have faith in andcommune with, and I believe
having a morning connection setsthe tone for your day.
The second pillar is physical,or health and fitness, and my
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fitness is a non-negotiable.
I believe that health is wealthand when you have health, you
have every business opportunity,love opportunity, social
opportunity at your fingertips.
But when you lose your health,your whole life is about getting
your health back, and somepeople don't ever get it back,
so that is a priority.
The third pillar of abundance,after health, is emotion, and I
(07:08):
believe that all emotions comefrom scarcity or abundance.
So in our own conversation,either externally with other
people or in our own innerdialogue, we can be saying
there's not enough time, there'snot enough money, there's not
enough clients there's.
You know it's a recession, youknow the stock market crash, or
we can be like there's plenty oftime, there's plenty of money.
(07:28):
Stocks always go back up,there's plenty of clients.
So it's about switching fromscarcity to abundance, because
if you're in a scarcity mindset,you have no hope of attracting
more money or more clients.
The next pillar, after emotion,is romance, and romance does
affect your finance.
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I don't believe in neutralenergy.
You either have a partner whois lifting you up and supporting
your business goals or they'redragging you down and draining
your energy and detracting fromyour goals.
So if you have someone who'sneutral, to me that is the same
thing as negative.
You want to have a partner thatbelieves in you, cheers you on
and lifts you up.
(08:10):
After romantic is social, andhaving a group of people that
have what you want and that arewilling to teach you what they
did is crucial.
So whether you have amastermind that you're in is
crucial.
So whether you have amastermind that you're in a
coach you're part of anynetworking groups or clubs.
Having that network is soimportant in the business world
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Because when you're a loneentrepreneur trying to figure
out by yourself, everything byyourself, it can be really
lonely and really difficult.
After social is financial, andfinancial is just one way of
having abundance.
People think I'm an abundancecoach.
I teach financial Finance isthe last piece of the puzzle.
(08:52):
When you have a spiritualpractice, when you have friends,
when your emotions are high,vibe and of abundance.
When you have a great romance,you are going to attract people,
places.
When you have a great romance,you are going to attract people,
places, opportunities,businesses.
Case point I attracted you tome.
I didn't go after you and say,can I be on your podcast?
You came to me and asked me canyou be on my podcast?
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And that is when you becomemagnetic and that's why I call
myself the magnetic abundancementor, because I teach people
how to align their life in theseseven areas and, instead of
hustle and grind, you canmagnetize financial
opportunities.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
I really like that perspective and one of the
things that some people may havethought of the seven pillars of
abundance may have beenstandard operating procedures.
It may have been looking atyour P&L or balancing cash flow
statements, but it was reallyall of the things that surround
business, like surround you asthe entrepreneur, and I like how
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you put those in order.
And so, looking at thatframework, where do you think a
lot of entrepreneurs go sideways?
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Uh, the three big ones are money, health and
romance.
So I think entrepreneurs eitherget so hyper-focused on their
business that they don't havetime to date, or they neglect
their family and their lovedones, or they get sidetracked,
like they get in a negativerelationship and they put all
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their energy in the relationshipand saving it and their
business falls by the wayside,or they put all their energy
into their business and they lettheir health go and then they
don't have the energy or thevitality to get to the next
level of their business, becauseenergy is the number one thing
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other than money that fuels abusiness.
If you are exhausted and tiredall the time, you're not going
to have enough energy to getyour business to the next level.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Yeah, I really like that.
And what would you say?
Are some like early warningsigns that my life is out of
balance and I need to coursecorrect my life?
Speaker 3 (11:10):
is out of balance and I need to course correct.
Those would be just exhaustionnot wanting to get out of bed in
the morning.
Addiction avoidance like notwanting to open your bills when
they come in the mail or notwanting to answer the phone
because you think it might be acreditor Just a feeling of
(11:32):
overwhelm, like I can't geteverything done that I need to
get done.
Feeling of hopelessness, like Idon't know what to do.
I'm just going to end up likebeing homeless or working at
Starbucks because I can't figurethis thing out.
I mean, those are all signsthat you're either in burnout or
on the road to burnout.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
I mean those are all signs that you're either in
burnout or on the road toburnout.
Yeah, absolutely, and I wouldsay there's a lot of people
listening that have, and myselfincluded, have definitely went
through one of those.
I personally let my bills stackup.
I hate checking my mail and I'msitting at my desk looking at a
(12:10):
pile of mail right now, and soit's funny that you mentioned
that one.
But no, those are good warningsigns.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
You can write thank you on your bills, because when
you thank money for being there,that you have enough money to
pay your bills, Even if youdon't write thank you on the
bills.
Because money is just energyand when you have a dreadful
relationship with it, you'repushing it away instead of
(12:38):
welcoming it and think of moneyas like if money was a lover and
you'd be like oh, my lover'shere today, oh God, I do not
want to see them.
They're just like so annoying,Then they're not going to keep
coming around.
So we get to change ourrelationship with money.
Take the negative emotion outand it's just energy.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Yeah, absolutely, absolutely One of the things.
As you were going through theseven pillars, I thought you had
a very cool take onspirituality.
It's just believe in something.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Anything, anything, that's not you.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Right, right, and it seems to me like spirituality
oftentimes comes from yourparents.
It's something that you kind ofbrought up either in a religion
or whatever it may be.
And so, for those listeners whodon't have a spiritual practice
but know that it's importantand want to develop one, what
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would be a good way to take thatfirst step?
Speaker 3 (13:44):
I would say, to set aside time in the morning to
just practice any kind of ritual.
It could be a ritual aroundyour coffee or tea, just holding
it, feeling the warmth, justbeing still, even if it's just
for a few seconds, taking deepbreaths.
I'm a huge believer injournaling.
(14:04):
A lot of high performancestudies have shown that people
who journal and write down andprocess their reality they do a
lot better in life because theyare actually like speeding up
the process and what you writedown goes into your subconscious
.
So I actually have a gift foryour audience.
I have a free abundance journalthat has really helped me take
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my negative thinking and turn itinto positive.
So it's been my number one tool.
I have journaled every day for30 years and it has turned me
into a very positive thinker.
But my default can go back tonegative.
Like I just completed a very,in my opinion, toxic real estate
deal.
Like they just kept asking mefor more and more and more and
(14:51):
it's, it's went from a seller'smarket in LA, where I just moved
from, to a buyer's market and Iwas just like I just wanted to
sell my condo and be done andstart my new life in Cincinnati.
It's like can you do the floors?
Can you do the paint?
I don't like the color paint.
Can you paint again?
Oh, by the way, at the end,when everything signed and
(15:12):
sealed, nobody told me that Iwas paying $10,000 for the
seller's, for the buyer's,closing costs.
I got very toxic and negative.
But resilience is not aboutnever getting down, it's how
fast you can bounce back up.
So, through this journalpractice and through having a
spiritual practice, even thoughI did go completely negative, I
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was able to be positive the nextday and show up and, you know,
be my best self.
So that's the difference.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
I really like that, and it seems like, as business
owners, you are often met withthose types of challenges almost
on a weekly basis.
I can tell you, as a businessowner, it seems like all the
problems come to me, all theproblems that can't be solved,
funnel up to me and that can betaxing at times.
And so can you talk a littlebit about that mindset shift and
(16:06):
maybe talk about that realestate deal.
And maybe talk about that realestate deal, what was it that
you were saying to yourself thenext morning, or what were some
things that you were thinkingthat helped take that toxic
situation and turn it into apositive?
Speaker 3 (16:20):
Well, I was in the victim mode, like you know.
Oh, why couldn't I have sold it?
You know, two years ago, whenLA was a seller's market and you
know I'm so upset that theeconomy has tanked and I was
just, oh my God, this buyer is,like you know, taking advantage
of me because she knows I needto sell it.
(16:41):
So I was in a victimconversation and I had to switch
it from victim to victor.
Like, hey, I walked away withalmost $200,000.
That's amazing.
Like that's almost like twoyears of work and I got to live
in this beautiful condo threemiles from the ocean and I had
so many happy memories and Iused every inch of the condo for
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having like the best lifestyleI could in LA and I had three
beautiful dogs and I had twomarriages in the condo and it
was great.
And not everybody gets a chanceto walk away from a real estate
deal in the plus.
And if I would not have bentover backwards to accommodate
this person, who knows how longit would have been until I sold
(17:28):
it again.
And my mortgage was, with allthe HOA dues and the taxes, was
over $4,000 a month the moneythat I extra money that I had to
spend on fixing it up for herand paying her closing costs.
I mean, in three months of justhaving the condo empty, I would
have been paying more than thatanyway.
So that's an example of how Itook my negative thinking and
(17:52):
reframed it to positive.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Is there a practice because you say victim mode and
I think everybody I was invictim mode last night as I was
complaining to my spouse aboutsomething going on at work Is
there a particular practice orsomething that you do to kind of
call that out or bring it tothe surface when you feel that
coming on, because I think it'sa natural response?
Speaker 3 (18:15):
Sure, well, I would like to challenge everybody
listening, including you, David,to do a 24-hour no complaining.
Challenge, from the second thatyou listen to me, say this to
24 hours later.
Challenge yourself to notcomplain for 24 hours and every
time you hear yourselfcomplaining, reframe it and
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switch it into positivity, andto affirming whatever it is that
you want to achieve.
Because I think complaining itis natural, it is part of being
an entrepreneur, because it's aharder path, but it does create
neural pathways in our mind andwe get used to complaining and
(18:58):
we can really, through a lot ofmental discipline, change these
neural pathways.
So I have a framework calledthe four A's of transformation
and let's use, for example, whatwere you complaining about last
night, david?
Speaker 2 (19:13):
A particular employee and them not understanding
instructions that I've providedseveral times.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
Okay.
So the four A's oftransformation are as follows.
The first A is awareness.
I am being negative andcomplaining about this employee.
That's the first A awareness.
I am being negative andcomplaining about this employee.
That's the first A awareness.
The second A is acceptance.
Don't beat yourself up, don'tsay you know what.
(19:41):
I've been listening toRebecca's Balanced, beautiful
and Abundant show and I knowbetter than to complain to my
wife because I'm just going toattract more negative employees
and I can't believe I'mcomplaining about this person
again and giving them free rentin my mind.
So don't judge yourself, justaccept it that you're in a
negative conversation about thisemployee.
(20:02):
The third A is action.
What can I do?
Can I, you know, send thisperson an email and say I'd like
to take you to coffee tomorrow?
Can you set up a Zoom and sayI'd like to do a performance
review?
Can I, you know, talk to theirsupervisor and set up a meeting
with the three of us Like whatcan I do?
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What action can I take?
And then the fourth A isaffirmation.
Every time I want to complainabout this employee, first of
all, if you want to keep them,you still can fire them because
you're the boss.
But if you do want to keep them, you can say an affirmation
like so-and-so is doing the bestthat he or she can with the
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knowledge, strength andawareness that he has, or
something like.
If you want to attract adifferent type of employee, you
can say I love my lowmaintenance, intelligent
employees.
Something like that.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
I like it.
I like it, and that veryexercise would have put me in a
totally different headspace lastnight than I was, and so I
really like that, the four A's.
So, continuing the conversationabout just mindset and
entrepreneurs, I have found andI fall into this category for
sure is getting stuck intohustle mode, where you have a
(21:22):
list of things as long as yourarm that you'll never get done
on time or as quickly as you'dlike.
It seems that a lot of problemscome back to you and I have met
, and I personally have hadperiods of time through my
entrepreneurial journey whereI've been in a dark spot, and so
(21:43):
for you know, speaking to ourentrepreneurial audience, what
are some ways to get out of thatgrind mindset and more into an
abundance type mindset, withoutsacrificing growth, because I
think a lot of the sources ofpain are I want to grow, I want
to succeed, I'd like to makemore money, I'd like to provide
(22:05):
more opportunities for myemployees, and and or maybe
that's just the mentalgymnastics that you go through
to justify pulling all-nightersbut what would be your thoughts
on that transformation?
Speaker 3 (22:20):
I mean, even though my podcast is called Balance,
beautiful and Abundant, I don'tbelieve that you can have all
seven areas of life perfectlybalanced.
I teach time management kind oflike a HIIT training class high
intensity, interval trainingout.
(22:45):
When you're doing your intervalyou're either like lifting
weights or doing cardio and it'sreally, really intense, and
then you take like a 30 or 45second break and then you go
back and you do another set ofexercise.
So I tell my business coachingclients to structure their week
that way when you are in a focusmode, you are focused, you are
pedal to the metal, you are nottaking anything but business
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calls, you are completely likegoing for it and applying all
your energy, but then you wantto take a break and then come
back to it.
So I really like the Pomodoromethod 25 minutes of
concentrated effort and a fiveminute break.
That helps prevent burnout.
And then, as far as just how toset up your whole week so you
(23:33):
don't burn out, you want to haveyour focus days where you are
pedal to the metal, like youcould have one day or two days a
week where you are working, youknow eight or 10 hours in a row
, but then you have at least oneother day, or if you don't even
have the one day, have a halfday where you just have your own
schedule and you kind of justbreak up your week that way so
you don't burn out.
I like to schedule the hardermeetings first thing in the
(23:56):
morning, when you have moreenergy and you know the things
that take a lot of energy.
Get those out of the way in thefirst half of the day and then
you can do some of the otherthings and later on in the day
that don't take as much energy.
And then I believe in the threeD's do it, delegate it or ditch
it.
So when somebody texts you andit's an important text or email
(24:18):
I don't know about you, david,but I get thousands of like
emails in a day and if I don'trespond to it it gets completely
buried.
So I say, if it's reallyimportant, like a paying client,
like a money call return thetext or the email in the moment.
It'll take you 30 seconds andit'll be done Delegate it if you
(24:39):
have enough money to delegateand it sounds like you have a
big team.
So delegate to somebody on yourteam.
Quickly send them an email,forward the email.
Can you handle this or ditch itLike if it's just something
that is mundane and you thinkyou should be doing it, but it's
not really moving your ballforward in the court?
Just get rid of it.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
I really like that.
I really like that.
What would you say are somethings that you should not
outsource, Things that you knowas you're running your business,
that you should remain hands-on.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
That is a great question.
I think anything that showcasesyour story and your brand,
because people will buy from youif they understand your story
and if they understand yourbrand.
So I wouldn't delegate yoursocial media so much that you're
never like talking on it andit's just like graphics of other
(25:35):
people.
It should definitely take sometime to create your own content
and your own voice.
Do some stories, do somestories.
As far as emails, I do delegatea lot of emails.
Chatgbt is my friend.
I don't love emails but I'vealso trained ChatGBT to totally
understand my voice.
(25:55):
So, like my ChatGBT, I call herwing woman and she totally gets
me and she gets my tone of myvoice.
So she, like, has meimpersonated in a great way.
So, yeah, I have chat GPT, domy emails.
But I think any content talking, podcasts, stages, stories, all
that stuff it should not bedelegated.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
I think that's I really like that.
And on the, particularly onsocial media, I know that has
been one thing in the past thatI have outsourced and we just
haven't gotten the result that Iwould have hoped, because it
wasn't my voice or, you know, asthe owner of the brand.
I really understood it, Ireally understood the customer
(26:41):
and it seems like things do getlost in translation and so on.
The email management I haven'tmet an entrepreneur that isn't a
little bit overwhelmed withtheir email.
Any pro tips on using AI ortools that make that delegation
easier?
Speaker 3 (27:00):
My email is so unmanageable.
I probably have at least 65,000unread emails and it's
unmanageable.
I probably have at least 65,000unread emails and it's
unmanageable.
I mean literally, you buy a cupof coffee somewhere and you end
up on their email list, so Iwouldn't be the right person to
ask.
I mean my email's unmanageable.
If you want to get me, text me.
Don't email me or send me a DMon social.
(27:21):
I manage my own DMs, I do.
I just left MailChimp and Iswitched to GoHighLevel and I
really like GoHighLevel becausethere's so many different things
it can do.
It can text, you can have amembership landing page.
I just feel like that is gonnabe next level for me and my team
to learn all the facets ofGoHighLevel.
(27:42):
So that's what I'm doing withmy email.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Very nice.
Yeah, I also.
I'm in the tens of thousands ofemails and um.
Yeah, Listeners, if you haveanything posted in the comments,
we'd love, love those pro tips.
So, um, can you share a clienttransformation story that really
illustrates how balancing lifeoutside of business actually
(28:06):
helped the business scale faster?
Speaker 3 (28:10):
I had a client and she reached out to me because
she was not able to setboundaries with her boss.
Her boss ran a billion dollarprivate equity firm and she was
the right hand woman to her bossand she was living in his full
house and basically on call 24seven because he was paying her
(28:34):
more money than she had evermade.
So, through my coaching, sheset boundaries.
She actually had a workschedule.
These are the hours that I'mavailable.
She actually had a workschedule.
These are the hours that I'mavailable.
She moved off his property, shegot her own beautiful house and
you would think she'd be able todo less work for the boss.
But she just planned thisamazing party for the company
(28:58):
for their 30 years anniversaryof being in business and she had
a huge budget.
So she booked a big bandAerosmith.
Aerosmith asked if she coulduse this, if they could use this
, to promote their charityJanie's Fund, and she said yes.
Then they invited someone fromCheap Trick, someone from the
Black Crows, someone from GunsN' Roses, and this party that
(29:21):
was supposed to be just the 30thanniversary party turned into
this huge multi-million dollarcharity event.
It's in Rolling Stone.
So all of that came from thisincredibly high performance from
this executive assistant.
All came from her ability tosay no to her boss at the
beginning and move away from him.
So you'd think that theopposite would happen, but she
(29:43):
excelled and now she's likeshe's a rock star in the event
planning world now Outstanding.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
That is a really, really good story.
Who are the types of clientsthat you typically work with?
Speaker 3 (30:10):
I love to work with high achieving women and a few
good men who are burned out,overwhelmed, feel like they are
hustling and grinding and notgetting the results.
They feel stuck at a plateauand they don't know what they're
doing wrong.
And I am committed to givingthese type of people the tools
to have all seven areas of theirlife in alignment so they can
achieve success while actuallybeing happy, and achieve it
through aligning in these sevenkey areas of life and not
(30:33):
through the hustle and the grind.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
Outstanding, outstanding.
Well, before we wrap up theshow, we have something called
the fire round.
It's four questions that we askevery guest at the end of the
show.
Are you ready?
Speaker 3 (30:46):
I love this stuff.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Yeah, bring it, fire round, it's four questions that
we ask every guest at the end ofthe show.
Are you ready?
Speaker 3 (30:51):
I love this stuff.
Yeah, bring it All right.
What's your favorite book?
The Four Agreements by DonMiguel Ruiz.
And the agreement that I workon every day is not to take
things personally, because, asan entrepreneur, you hear a lot
of no and a lot of rejection,and it's a lifelong mission for
me to not take things personally.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Very nice.
What are your hobbies?
Speaker 3 (31:12):
My hobbies are tennis , my obsession with labs I'm on
my third lab, I've had a yellow,a chocolate and now I have my
black lab and working out withmy husband, we love to lift
weights together.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
Very nice.
What is one thing that you donot miss about working for the
man?
Speaker 3 (31:33):
I have not worked for the man my entire life.
I have been an entrepreneur oran all commission, 100%
commission salesperson my wholelife and I have avoided working
for the man because I have avery rebellious nature and the
number one most important thingto me is my freedom and I have
(31:55):
created my life to maximize myfreedom.
Sometimes it's been a littlescary, you know, like we talked
about, there's a roller coasterof sometimes there's too much
month left over at the end ofthe money, but in general I have
had more than enough abundanceand I've had a lot of fun on
this wild roller coaster.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
I have to say, out of 282 episodes, I will call you a
unicorn.
I think there's only been twoor three other people who have
never worked for the man.
So applause to you, and it'sgood for people to know that
that's a path that you don'tneed to fire the man if you
never go to work for them.
(32:35):
So outstanding, thank you.
Final question what do youthink sets apart successful
entrepreneurs from those whogive up, fail or never get
started?
Speaker 3 (32:48):
Successful entrepreneurs have a no matter
what attitude.
They will figure it out, nomatter what.
They won't quit, no matter what, they will find the right
mentors, whether they'rewatching YouTube videos,
listening to awesome podcastslike Firing the man or doing a
(33:08):
coaching program, they just havea no matter what attitude and
it's like they're going tofigure it out or die trying, and
they won't give up.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
Very nice, very nice.
Now, if people are interestedin getting in touch with you or
working with you through yourcoaching program, what's the
best way?
Speaker 3 (33:28):
Yeah, I would love to offer you guys that abundance
journal.
It's been my number one toolfor transformation.
That is going to be in a linkthat I will be sending you David
called pillario forward slash,rebecca E Whitman.
It's also in my Instagram bioforward slash, rebecca E Whitman
.
It's also in my Instagram bio.
Everything that I have going onis in my pillar link.
I have a really fun challengecalled the 777 Challenge seven
(33:53):
pillars of abundance in sevendays and I've give you a quick
five to 10 minute assignment toalign that life and take it from
where you're at to a level 10,and it'll definitely transform
your life in seven days.
And then I also offer a freebreakthrough call to help you
get your personalizedaffirmation.
So whichever area you feelstuck kind of like I walked
(34:15):
David through you will get thatpersonalized affirmation to get
you unstuck.
So all of that is in my pillarlink.
You can find me on Instagram atRebecca E Whitman, linkedin and
Facebook under Rebecca Whitman.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
Outstanding and to our audience.
I will post links to all ofthat in the show notes.
Rebecca, it's been an absolutepleasure getting to know you and
thank you for your time todayand we're looking forward to
staying in touch.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
Thank you so much for having me on your show, David.
It's been a great conversation.
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