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January 22, 2025 49 mins

Ever wondered what it's like to juggle fatherhood, podcasting, and the occasional stair tumble? We're not saying we've nailed it, but we sure have some stories to tell! Join us, Walliams and Mr. Hodgkiss, as we navigate through the delightful chaos of parenting, technical glitches, and holiday mishaps. From recounting our unrecorded yet unforgettable Episode 4 to sharing the joys of fatherhood with a dash of humour, this episode is packed with laughs and life lessons, all brought to you with our signature blend of humour...

Beer lovers, you're in for a treat! We're diving into the world of craft beers with a lively debate on IPAs, including the elusive 7% North Heptagon. Whether it's the psychology of branding or the surprising potency of a tropical brew, our beer journey is as unpredictable as it is enlightening... Plus, we'll ponder the tactile allure of high-end branding and imagine a future with a comprehensive beer rating system, all while reminiscing about the good old days of beer brewing.

We reflect on the magic of Christmas entertainment and the evolution of media. Remember those days of DVDs and pirated collections? We'll take you on a nostalgic trip with a nod to the Gavin and Stacey Christmas special. And for the parents out there, stick around for some unconventional tips on getting the kiddos to tidy up their mess—or at least attempt to! Whether you're a fan of retro media or seeking parenting hacks, our episode wraps up with insightful anecdotes and a hearty dose of humor.

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a first look at
- Stair tumbles in your 40s
- Wallace and Gromit,  Vengence most fowl 
- Gavin and Stacey Christmas Special 

Tips for Dads 
Thirsty First: https://untappd.com/b/north-heptagon/6014486

And the Dad joke of the week ...


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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to another episode of First Look Gnomes
with your professional, as ever,hosts Walliams and Mr Hotchkiss
.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
Ah, what's going on?
I'm going to go and set it low.

Speaker 3 (00:16):
you two Shut the hell up, everybody get up, sing it.
One, two, three, four, fivemake it down now.
Baby 2, 3, 4, 5 make it downnow.
Baby, bring it on, baby, bringit on baby, bring it on, baby,
bring it on.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
I'm not sure that's the official lyrics, but I like
them.
If they weren't, they shouldhave been oh dear baby, bring it
on.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
Welcome to episode yeah, baby, bring it on bring it
on.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
Yeah, you're right.
Yeah, thank you very much.

Speaker 3 (00:44):
Episode 5.
Yeah, yeah, you're right.
Yeah, thank you very much.
Episode five hopefully,listeners, you'll hear this
episode after episode fourfailed to record four was a
complete disaster from memory,though I think it was actually
possibly one of our bestepisodes.
I remember laughing quite a bit.
Um, that's because beforechrist At least for us, it was
quite a fun episode.
But yes, it didn't recordproperly, so apologies to our

(01:11):
avid listeners.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
You say you think it was good, but the fact that I
had to text you at the end andsay, did I talk about this in
the last podcast I recorded, Icouldn't remember what we
discussed in the failed episode.

Speaker 3 (01:24):
Anyways, Episode 5.
Welcome back listeners.
Welcome back listeners.
I don't remember how we do this.
How do we do this?
I'm not ready for my thirsty.
First, I've got a tribute,which is definitely not a first.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
A tribute, this could be my 5,000th and first
terrible planning we usuallystart these episodes with a
thirsty first and you've alreadygot half a pint of beer in your
hand apologies.

Speaker 3 (01:52):
So yeah, thirsty first will come later in the
episode.
We'll get stuck into our firstlook, into our first look for
our new listeners what we do.
Two dads, we drink beer.
We don't drink beer if we'renot feeling 100%.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
I'm on the 0% today.

Speaker 3 (02:10):
As per Mr Hodgkiss, and we talk about first looks,
it's something that we've notexperienced or witnessed or seen
, for the first time.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
Yeah, we've got some catch-up to do about all the
things that happened over theChristmas period and the New
Year period do.

Speaker 3 (02:24):
but we, um we had some technical difficulties, um
ourselves again, um on thisepisode, um and also also I um I
literally just messaged craigsaying right, ready to go, and
then, um, the wife of wifemessages saying baby is not down
.
So I had to go in sort of helphelp with that.

(02:45):
A little change over seemed toshake him out of uh, shake him
out of the I'm not going tosleep, and he did in the end.
So yeah, sometimes a kid justneeds a bad cuddle, and then we
came back, and then mr hodgkisslittle came back I can't hear
you which then led to half anhour of let's switch it off and

(03:09):
on again.
Let's switch that off and onagain.

Speaker 1 (03:11):
Let's switch that off and on again.

Speaker 3 (03:13):
Hey, I fixed it.
Wow, I switched off this andfixed it.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
Yeah, kick it, Kick it on off again.
Eventually we got it Once.
We turned everything on and offagain a few times, Hold the
button down, count to ten andhope for the best.
But here we are.

Speaker 3 (03:28):
First look.
Let's look at some first looks.
So, relating back to a fewepisodes ago, just before the
wedding celebration, I made themistake of as a 40-year-old, I
stepped to the left.
Mistake of as a 40 year old, Istepped to the left.

(03:56):
Um, and what a recent episodeis I had a first look of um.

Speaker 2 (03:59):
Due to turning around um, I fell down the stairs.
Oh, you're joking, yeah justjust for chris.

Speaker 3 (04:02):
So I was going half halfway, halfway up the steps
and I was like, oh, a bit chilly, I'm gonna put the heating on.
So I kind of swiveled, turnedaround on the steps.
I was on the edge of a step andthen before you know it bum up
in the air and then justbouncing down the stairs on my

(04:23):
back that's gotta hurt.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
Did it just knock?

Speaker 3 (04:30):
you for six.
And then yeah, so just yeah,not me for six.
I was like, oh, oh, and then,just, you know, you just kind of
realize I don't bounce backquite as I used to, um, and I
was kind of aching that and Iwas fine.
And then, yeah, just aching forit.
And then on christmas day, um,I was on the floor quite a bit

(04:52):
playing with toys and thingswith the nephew and niece and
logan, um, and, um, yeah, justgradually, the christmas dinner
I was sat there going oh, andthen just uh, grab a little, put
a little pillow behind my back,yeah, and just, oh, it's
starting to get worse actually.
Oh, no, it was like a couple ofdays later and yeah, just

(05:16):
gradually getting worse andworse.
And then sort of finishedChristmas at my folks' place and
yeah, got home I was like, oh,it was getting quite bad now.
And then I sat in um, um, oneof my chairs it's not really,
it's not really built for umkeeping your back straight.
It's got a recline, sort ofjust sink into it.

(05:37):
Yeah, um, that that cream onein the in the corner and, um, is
that right bedtime nowchristmas sober, let's go to bed
.
And I was like, oh, I can'tmove, oh, no, I can't move.
So I had to do that reallyembarrassing thing where you
kind of like slide off, justlike you slowly slide off the

(06:01):
chair, bum lands on the floor.
And then you like kind of try toturn and then push off, and
push off the chair to get upright, and I spread a bit of
deep heated heating stuff on myback, went to bed and then much
better the next day Okay.
But yeah, my yeah, and then myfirst look at four falling down

(06:25):
some steps falling down steps isa 40 year old man.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
It's a very different 40 year old man who's sober.

Speaker 3 (06:31):
It's very different to a 20 year old and, on that
note, both my mum, um and uh,georgie's step-mom.
They both straight away went.
Were you drunk?
No, it was at lunch time,during work yeah, lunch time at

(06:51):
work.

Speaker 2 (06:51):
That's a perfectly sound expectation that you may
be a little bit tipsy wow, yeah,this is true, this is true, but
yeah so I you're lucky, though,because those kind of things
you could have broke yourtailbone or anything, lessening
out your mom she did somethingvery similar uh, a couple of

(07:12):
years ago and she literallybroke her back um.
So she, she was in, shecouldn't move for like five
weeks um same thing.
She felt like her foot wentunderneath it and she just
landed right on the kind ofstair joint.
Boom, just the impact.
Just cracked something in herback.

(07:33):
It was awful.

Speaker 3 (07:34):
Yeah, the initial boom.
And then more.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
Yeah, gravity's a mother clipper that hurts.

Speaker 3 (07:45):
Yeah, I'm glad you're okay.
That could have been quitenasty and then um, also at
christmas.
Well, at the end of christmasdidn't quite get time, but um, I
was looking forward to as Ithink I might have mentioned in
a previous episode um to got.
I've managed to get logan intowatching.
Uh, wallatson grommett oh yeah,my favorites and, um, my pops is

(08:11):
one of my granddad's umfavorites, um, and vengeance
most foul.
So I got a first look atvengeance most foul, um.
But, uh, I was looking forwardto it.
Looking forward to it, didn'thave time to watch it and then,
like the last day of well, theweekend of the last weekend of
the celebration, you know whenyou're taking the decorations
down and all that sort of stuffI was like, right, I'm going to
watch Wallace and GromitChristmas special Vengeance Most
Foul With.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
As we spoke about Norbot the smart gnome, Yep,
he's stolen all of our bestideas and yeah if you've not
seen the movie.

Speaker 3 (08:42):
There's lots of gnomes and robot names and, yeah
, either.
It got to a point wherefeathers, feathers, mcgraw
managed to bit for sportactually, that's not spoiled
much to hack into the gnome andturned him evil and uh, logan

(09:04):
didn't like it.
Logan got really scared, um, sowe had to well, sorry, the
wifey wife took the the parentaldecision to uh stop the movie.
I don't think I would have madeit so uh, yeah, so we didn't
end up watching it together, um,as I hoped, but um, but yeah, I

(09:28):
managed to watch it myself atsome point, but, um, it was.
I enjoyed it, but it wasn'tquite the.
Uh, quite the old was.
I preferred the old worse thangromit.
20 minute, 30 minute, sort ofold school yeah, sort of, I
don't know, probably thatnostalgia from my younger days,
maybe, but this was like afull-on animated movie, which

(09:51):
too glamorous yeah, because Iwear rabbit.
I didn't really enjoy that asmuch as the the 30 minute ones
yeah, um so um but yeah, thatwas good.

Speaker 2 (10:01):
It's good.
There's a bit more charm aboutthe old ones in there.

Speaker 3 (10:03):
There's like it's yeah, that's the right word,
that's the.
That's the good.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
Yeah, good, use the word, but the charm about it
yeah, whereas anyone that's kindof you can tell anything,
that's obviously the originalones.
Nobody knew they were going tobe a massive hit or anything,
did they?
so it was just, it was just donewith love and creativity.
Now I know that they're goingto be absolute money spinners,
so they have to kind of yeah,they're always trying to go

(10:27):
bigger and better, aren't they?
You try to keep.
You try to keep the the charmof the original, yeah, but also
try and be bigger and serve awider audience it went down the
increase, the peril and theaction and the you know um, your
typical trying to beblockbuster.

(10:47):
Yeah, it wasn't the first one.

Speaker 3 (10:49):
There really isn't much peril or anything, it's
just a, it's just a little storyabout going to the moon, just
uh, around a man from Yorkshire,wherever he's from, and, uh, I
want to build a rocket in my, inmy basement and go to the moon,
because obviously the moon's abit of cheese and we're bringing
out cheese.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
Yeah, so why not?
Yeah, I mean to be fair to them.
There wasn't Deliveroo back intheir days.
You couldn't just get cheesedelivered to your house within
half an hour.

Speaker 3 (11:15):
No, not exactly.
Not a Tesco whoosh or whateverit's called, that's a great name
Tesco Woosh.

Speaker 2 (11:21):
Other food delivery services are available.

Speaker 3 (11:24):
Is it Because I don't quite, I don't use Tesco Woosh
because it's not like a delivery, or is it like a delivery so
there's like and you can't dolike?

Speaker 2 (11:34):
your big shop, no, but say you just say like, oh
crap, look, we need somethingfor Logan's dinner.
And it's lashing it downoutside.
You're like right, we need somebeans, we need some milk and we
need some orange juice.
You'll pay a premium, from whatI understand, but they'll get
it to you within like half anhour or something.
Oh really, I think so.
Yeah, I think that's why it'scalled whoosh, it's like it's
fast Whoosh Williams.

Speaker 3 (12:04):
We are a privileged nation.
We are a privileged nation.

Speaker 2 (12:08):
Well, I'm glad you're back.
So, karen, I'm glad you got tosee Wallace and Gromit.

Speaker 3 (12:12):
Yeah, a little.
First look at Wallace andGromit, benjamin Smith's Foul
and a first look at me failingto use stairs.

Speaker 2 (12:22):
You're not the first and you won't be the last.
Are we ready for a thirstythirst?
Oh yes, actually.
Why not?
Why not Before we go into thenext first look we'll have a
thirsty thirst.

Speaker 3 (12:34):
Let me just finish my tribute.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
He's finishing his tribute now, the gentleman.
I am as Dan alluded to on theCarlsberg Zero, because I'm
feeling very sorry for myself.
I'm entering the first lookfridge.
Oh, he's entering the fridge.
I've still not moved themicrophone.
You still can't get to thefridge because there's too much
stuff in the way.
And what do we have?
Let's close the fridge.
You must have got a niceselection of beers over

(12:57):
Christmas.

Speaker 3 (12:58):
Fridges work best with the door closed.

Speaker 2 (13:05):
Can you not get it open?

Speaker 3 (13:08):
Here we go.
We've got North Heptagon.
It's called 7%, which I thinkis quite reasonable.
I see 7%.
I'm lacking alcohol knowledgehere, mr Archicus.
So it's an IPA, but it's adouble D H IPA.

Speaker 2 (13:27):
Oh yeah, double D H IPA.
What's a double D H?
Double D H, double D.
H yeah, yeah, yeah, dang damnhoppy IPA.

Speaker 3 (13:39):
Double D.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
That's a double D beer.

Speaker 3 (13:43):
It's a double D beer.
It's here we go.
Nectaron hops deliver juicytropical flavours in this hazy
and hop forward, hop forward.
Ipa Meh.

Speaker 2 (13:56):
I hate.
See, I'm not a fan of thesetropical beers.
It's vegan.
There we go.
All beers are bloody vegan.

Speaker 3 (14:04):
No, they're not actually.
No, they're not actually.
Oh, they're not.
No, I've told you this beforeabout You've been on brewery
tours and things, haven't you?
Yeah, yeah, so many of your oldschool ways of brewing in the
kegs, to keep them to lastlonger, they use fish guts.
So at the bottom of a kegthere's fish guts, okay, um,

(14:27):
there's more.
There's a better name for itthan fish guts, but fish guts,
and that's why, if, um, ifthey're I can't remember the
term I'll probably insertsomething on the on the edit
specifically a substance calledisinglass, which is derived from
the swim bladders of fish,usually sturgeon, is sometimes

(14:48):
used as a fining agent.

Speaker 1 (14:50):
This means it helps to clarify the beer by removing
yeast and other particulates,making it look clearer and more
appealing.

Speaker 3 (14:59):
But with your old school beers, when you're
drinking the bottles alwaysleave the last little bit
because all the stuff that sinkson the bottom yeah, so that's
the usually the fish cat.
So I recommend not drinkingthat.
That end of the bottle okay, andalso and also when you got,
when you got kegs of the oldschool um beers, it's underneath

(15:21):
the tap, so you don't get itbecause it's all to the bottom.
So don't think, oh, I've stillgot some more in the keg.
Tip the keg and I try tosqueeze all the rest out of the
tap yeah, that might be fishcuts.
I did not know that I've got ait's less so now because they
use, I imagine, just chemicalsto keep it lasting longer.

Speaker 2 (15:43):
Well, I'm reading here.
So, ladies and gentlemen, Ihave an empty can of John Smith
Fish guts.
No water, malted barley,glucose syrup, barley hops, hop
extract, nitrogen Nitrogen inJohn Smith's head of business.

Speaker 3 (15:58):
Yeah, a bit of gas A bit of gas.

Speaker 2 (16:02):
It's got a nice, nice sort of sandpapery finish to
the can they do that with a lotof the labels these days to make
them tactile, don't they?
Is that so?

Speaker 3 (16:11):
you, just, it doesn't slip out your hand, it's just
tactile, tactile paper.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
It feels more, it feels a high quality.
It does feels like high quality.
It's a branding thing, wells,because you are, you know like,
feels like high quality.

Speaker 1 (16:22):
It's a branding thing .

Speaker 2 (16:22):
Wells, because you are, you know, like if something
, it's an idea, isn't it?
If something's expensive andyou take, your time by reading
it, because you spent a lot onit.
You enjoy it more because like,oh, it tastes expensive, even
if it tastes like crap, andthere's different psychology
tests.
You can do around givingsomebody something that costs
10p versus something that costs£1,000, which one tastes better?

(16:42):
And even people will say it'sthe thing that costs £1,000,
even though the thing that costs£1,000 is actually the 10p
thing.

Speaker 3 (16:50):
So it's all that all the perfume adverts and
aftershave and all that beforeChristmas.
It's all about the.
They can't advertise the smellbecause we haven't got
smell-o-vision yet, thankgoodness.
Some shows you just don't evenwant it, would you know?
But but, and you know who wouldlisten about beers?

(17:13):
You know you're not gonnaactually taste the beer.
You just, who would listen to apodcast that talks about beer?
Well, that's true anyways.
Um, yeah, lovely can.
Lovely can.
Lovely can.
What would you call that?
Art deco, would you say?
no, it's, it's, it's geometricvarious rectangles on a blue

(17:35):
background.
Lovely feel, as I said, lovelyfeel, lovely smell how's it
taste?

Speaker 2 (17:42):
I'm not a fan of these tropical beers.
Lovely feel, lovely smell.
How does it taste?
I'm not a fan of these tropicalbeers.
And a lovely taste?
Oh okay, well, that's good.

Speaker 3 (17:51):
And a lovely taste.
I'm a bit like you.

Speaker 2 (17:55):
I'm not a fan of the tropical sort of stuff.
Troubled taste, lovely smell.

Speaker 3 (17:59):
Sake and lilt Lovely can.
Doesn't taste like a 7%.
No dangerous.

Speaker 2 (18:05):
You know.
You say this about all beers,though I think you've just got a
bit of a like.
Oh, you never told that was 9%,apart from the fact that I just
fell down the stairs afterdrinking it.
Yeah, I wasn't drunk.

Speaker 3 (18:19):
So you say that's a nice one for the ratings, for
when the website's live and welook back at these and yeah,
yeah, have a nice.
You know, in 10 years time wemight have a list of gosh.
How many first year firstscould we have, so average of,
say, 12 episodes per season.
Imagine the beer new beers I'vedrunk.

(18:40):
Imagine the ratings system thatwe'd have you could end up being
just like one of those thingsyou know, the Kelvin system, or
like a money saving market whereit was that was built on blogs,
and then you sell the site formillions of pounds well,
hopefully again.

Speaker 2 (18:58):
If anybody wants to be featured as a thirsty thirst,
yeah, send, give us a buzz,send us some samples and we'll
gladly try them and hopefullyagain.
If anybody wants to be featuredas a thirsty thirst, yeah, Send
, give us a, give us a buzz,send us some samples and we'll
try them at rape.

Speaker 3 (19:06):
Yes, and if we've sampled your beer already, I'm
sure we'll sort something out.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (19:12):
We can go back and send the lovely people.
So I think I mentioned thiscompany every third episode.
So the white water brewingcompany.
If they want to send usanything, uh get in touch.
I will let me just tell theworld how lovely I think I need
to title one of the episodes.
White water brewing companyjust say someone finds on a
search well, when, when you comeover here, we'll go and, uh,

(19:34):
I'll take you there.

Speaker 3 (19:34):
Well, so we'll drink all the beer sponsored by
sponsored all the beerpersonally no, it was sponsored
by?
What water brew?
Yeah, that wasroom.
That was my firsty, first, ohvery good, alright.

Speaker 2 (19:44):
Well, I'll go into my first look then.
So mine's related Very similarto yours.
When you started talking, Ithought, oh, we've got to have
the same first look here, butI've gone Slightly different,
yeah.
Yeah, because I was.

Speaker 3 (19:57):
The white comic bit or the falling down the stairs.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
Thankfully not falling down the stairs, but the
kind of thinking what do we doover Christmas?
The white-scarred bit or thefalling down the stairs
Thankfully not falling down thestairs, but the kind of thinking
over well, what do we do overChristmas?
No, our Christmas holiday wasspent mostly just relaxing, nice
and playing and doing all thatkind of stuff.
We had a big pre-Christmas.
We had a big busy time where wedid lots of socialising and
then post-Christmas it was a bitof relaxing.
I say that I was working onboxing day because I went oh,

(20:24):
because I went for american andamerica, america, um, and I
didn't book the time off andthey're like well, no, we work,
I had christmas day off andthat's it.
So I had to work um over thechristmas holiday this year,
which was a something I've notreally done very often.
Yeah, um, so it was interesting.
Um didn't hate it, to be fair,it was.

(20:46):
It was like oh, it's okaybecause we got, we have the
least amount of holidays.
They don't have much.
They have about 10 paid days ayear and then they have the
federal holidays and stuff solike I did get two days off for
thanksgiving, have a thursdayand friday for thanksgiving, but
we are going away.
I could have taken some time off, but we saved the holiday

(21:07):
because we're going away laterin the year.
So we did and obviously, withthe time difference and
Lesley-Anne was off, we wereable to kind of manage it
between us and still have lotsof nice family time.
So it was good.
So what did we do at Christmas?
What stood out for me, what wasmemorable, and the thing I've
gone for, is the gavin and stacychristmas special.
I don't know if you're a gavinand stacy fan.

(21:30):
Williams, I've never watchedthem, you've never watched them
oh that's interesting.
You may be one of the onlypeople who hasn't so I'm not
really going to clear whatyou're talking about, you're not
gonna.

Speaker 3 (21:41):
I will, I will well, it was such a big well in
britain anyway, they're quite,quite a big thing yeah, I mean
the show's been going for, so itwas a bit of better history, I
think I heard the highestratings at christmas like 60 for
the last 16 years.

Speaker 2 (21:57):
Wow, I was surprised it was.
There was definitely.
It was definitely the one thingon the calendar.
Yeah, I'll watch that.
I will actually go and watch it.
We didn't watch that much everbefore.
So Leslie Adam and Brian alsowatched Wallace and Gromit, but
I wanted to make an effort towatch the Gavin and Stacey
special.
So when Leslie Adam and mestarted going out together back
in 2009, we took a holiday toMarmaris and I remember we were

(22:23):
like, oh, we're gonna watch,we're gonna, um, we want to
watch family and safety.
But it was a full like iplayerand stuff.
So we had to buy dvds.
So we had like series one andseries two on dvd and I had this
kind of old apple back like awhite mac computer, um, with a
dvd drive and we took that withus and went on holiday, marmorus
, yeah.
And then every evening we'd kindof just chill out.

(22:44):
We'd been to WattsEntertainment, had dinner and
stuff and we'd watch Gavin andStacey and we both enjoyed it.
So it was very much like we'vebeen on the.
We are the Gavin and Staceykind of like.
You know, i'm't want to givetoo many spoilers in case people
haven't seen it, but it was itwas probably a silly question,
but Braden being nine, yes, doeshe know what a DVD is?

Speaker 3 (23:08):
are we still?
Are we?
Have we reached that point?

Speaker 2 (23:09):
yet he does know what a dvd is, but that's only
because I'm not quite there yetso we have, we have made in our
house, we have made a cinemaroom like a movie room where all
the video games live and musicand I had a rather big you
remember this one ims, a ratherbig dvd collect, dvd collection.
Yeah, I've got some properclassics and stuff that you

(23:31):
still can't stream now.
We transferred all of our DVDsinto these massive wallets of
like 200k CD wallets, dvdwallets and what we do now.
So, like on New Year's Eve, forexample, we're going to watch a
movie.
Who picks the movie?
What do we do?
We try and get an agreement ona movie, so we're going to
spread out the DVDs.

(23:51):
We're like we'll go DVD styleand you go through and like what
any on any on this page youwant Hmm, maybe that one and you
pull them out and then you putthem, you line them all up and,
like you, you whittle them downuntil you've got something.
Now we were trying to.
We we want to get him intoAvatar because we took him to
see some Avatar stuff that he'snot seen in the film.

(24:12):
Yeah, but we ended up watchingChippendale, not the
Chippendales.

Speaker 3 (24:16):
I was going to say Chippendale movie?

Speaker 2 (24:18):
Did I hear that correctly?
We ended up watching theChippendale movie on Disney+
yeah, which, for a first look,was actually excellent.
It had a lot of.
It was so much better than Iexpected it to be.
Yeah, so the general premiseI'm going off cabin and stays
here and doing chippendale, butthe the general premise of the

(24:38):
movie.
The chippendale were famous inthe 90s.
Now one of them is kind ofdoing comic con stuff and he's
he's kind of he's a boat, he'strying to still live in the past
and he's kind of become 3dgenerated and stuff, whereas the
other one, um, yeah, he's justworking in like a solicitor's
firm and then's kind of become3d generated and stuff, whereas
the other one, um, yeah, he'sjust working in like a
solicitor's firm and then theykind of fallen out and then they
get back together and a lot ofthe kind of um, the, uh, what

(25:03):
would you call them?
additional characters fromdisney movies past, um, have all
been effective.
Peter pan has got pissed offbecause he's grown old and was
put on the rubbish heap so he'sstealing a lot of the old
characters, changing them justenough so they don't plagiarise,
and forcing them to makerip-off movies and this is the.

(25:24):
Chip and Dale movie.
Chip and Dale movie yeah soundsgreat it's got loads and loads
of references to kind of you.
I love retro.
I always get a kick from goingback and forth Retro and a bit
of nostalgia.
Yeah, a bit of retro, a bit ofnostalgia Can't beat it.
So it's got so many retro andnostalgic moments.
They go to the Comic Con andit's full of ugly.
Sonic Do you remember the Sonicmovies that came out?

Speaker 3 (25:46):
Or Sonic the Hedgehog 3?
The new ones, yeah.

Speaker 2 (25:56):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So before the first one came,I've not seen them yet I think.
Well, I think I saw part of thefirst one, but they're quite
good, so that's another one.
We took brain c sonic 3.
That was very good as well, butthere was um?
Ugly sonic.
So when the trailer releasedfor the first sonic movie there
was a massive fan out backlashyeah, because like oh, why's he
got human teeth and what's allthis going on and yeah, um, is
that real?

Speaker 3 (26:10):
is that a marketing ploy?
I?

Speaker 2 (26:12):
don't know, but like ugly sonic creatures.
In this film and this there's alot of oh right, p-man and
skeletor and just you know,loads of kind of good stuff from
our childhood yeah, lots ofjokes from the adults um.
So that was really good.
So chip and dale, well worth awatch.
Gavin and stacy um dvds arestill cool, don't, let're never

(26:33):
tell you otherwise.
I still like.
I still like physical media,while in um, I'm sure there's a
lot of dads when you say dvds,is that blu-ray or is that?
A mix.
I have some blu-rays, have somedvds, have some old old school
burnt ones that like just copiedyou know, like you probably
could well at university.

Speaker 3 (26:53):
It was the um, um, yes, in um, especially in my
final year.
Well, I think it was post postuni, actually final year slash
post post uni, trying to workout what I was doing.
I lived in a house, um, with um, a chap named ray, and Little
Ray, as we called him.

(27:13):
Shit and Mario Kart.
He what?
Would have been.
I think it might have even beenNetflix.
I don't know.
It was Netflix or evenBlockbuster.
I think Blockbuster might havebeen gone by that point Love.
Film, maybe Love Film, I thinkit was Love Film, and you could
get three or four DVDs sent toyou max per week, maybe even per

(27:34):
day.
Love film, I think it was lovefilm, and you could get a three
or four DVDs sent to you as maxper week, maybe even per day, I
don't know and you would getthem, whack him in his computer,
burn off a few copies, sendthem back, order some more.
And yeah, I've got.
Quite obviously kids don't knowPirating the DVDs is bad, but
um, yeah, there was just thatthat era there was such a just

(27:58):
burn copies oh so easy to dostuff cds, minidiscs, dvds it
was.

Speaker 2 (28:03):
I mean, you can see why they're kind of the big
company when you think about it.
You can see why the company mystreaming has come about yeah,
because you can't.
I mean it's a lot harder tokind of.
You can rip off streams andstuff, but there's a lot less
trust involved.
If you put a DVD into a DVDplayer, you're not worried about
a virus or anything.
If you want a kind of a legallystreaming movie, I'd be
terrified.

Speaker 3 (28:24):
I'd take that a go and we'd in, and also the
generation before us, so themillennials and the I'm not very
good at my generations, but wewould remember the DVDs.
Put a DVD in, you're watchingit, and then the shadow of
someone holding popcorn justwalks by.

(28:44):
Well, do you remember that?

Speaker 2 (28:49):
I used to have VCDs.
I used to get a car boot saleand you'd buy 10 VCDs for a
tenant, like a pound each, andthey were pirated movies.
So there weren't DVDs, therewere VCDs.
So you put them in your WindowsMedia computer and I remember I
had like Catch Me If you can,and all these other ones, and
they were literally filmed inthe cinema.
Of course, of course you're notgreat, quality's not great, but

(29:11):
it was apparent.
So what's the film?
Um, yeah, I actually rememberas well, like at school.
I remember like I probablyshouldn't say this on a podcast,
but it was a long time ago.
I was a naughty boy.
We're gonna get shut downbecause the last episode people.
Well, we had two VHS players inour house so you could plug them
into each other and put a VHSin and record it.
If you put a bit of cellotape,so videos, you just have this

(29:33):
little plastic bit on the frontright yeah and it was.
If there was no plastic bitthere, it was just it was a
stunning machine.
No, no, this is.
You can't copy it all you haveto do is put a bit of electric
tape and then you couldeffectively copy the video so if
you go to the video shop, get acopy of predator.
Put it in one video player,connect it with a scart lead.

(29:54):
Let's go another one, which isone of the reasons morgz
probably calls me scart lead boyyeah because you connect one of
them to another one with avideo and then there you go.
So I, I remember, but again I'mgoing to give too much away here
, but we went to when we were 16or 17, we had a land holiday
Safe space.
This is a safe space and it's afunny story.

(30:17):
We went to Loretta.
Was it Loretta, no, salou.
We went to Salou, we were 16.
So 11 lads went to salute, butit was weird 11 16 year old lads
, 11 16 year old lads on a coach, from wolverhampton to salute
28 hours on a coach.
Um, we went there, but one ofwe went with one of our mates

(30:41):
family.
So, like, his mom and dad werethere, his auntie was there.
So there's actually about 20 ofus, but there's 11 of the
friends the parents had agreedyeah, yeah, bring all the lads,
it's fine.
What could possibly go wrong?
So in spain, in saloon, circa2000, you were 16.
You could buy anything youwanted cigarettes, booze and,

(31:02):
little did we know, hardcorepornography.
So we were where our hotel wasin Saloon.

Speaker 3 (31:09):
Cigarettes, booze and boobs.

Speaker 2 (31:11):
Yeah, it was so like we were in the hotel and the
shop at the bottom of the hotelhad like a spinny rack of videos
and these videos were all pornads, not like oh just you know,
like what you could get in the.
UK, which was a post with some,you know well, maybe a sitting
apple.
This was full on.
Like the man is.
The man is having some fun withwith that lady and you can see

(31:33):
every inch in great graphic.
So as a group of 16 year oldlads, in those days high
definition well, yeah, grainyvideo.
but it was like, wow, okay, whatis this?
So we bought some of the videosbecause we were lads and all
the videos were in Spanish,obviously.
So I was like, oh me, lloromucho.
So we bought this one becauseit's Spanish, isn't it?

(31:56):
Oh la la.

Speaker 3 (31:58):
Oh la la.

Speaker 2 (31:59):
Oh, la la, oh la, la, oh, la la.
Si El nido, Si senor, Sisenorita Nido le pluma, Si senor
, oh le tori, oh piano, oh, comeon.
Oh panty dropio, oh mi galio,Renci, renci.
And we told him this group ofsix-year-old lads buy these
videos.
We're like, well, what are wegoing?

(32:27):
It can make copies foreverybody.
So we set up this dodgy videocopy in the factory in my mum
and dad's front room so thateverybody can have a copy of the
ozone.
So yeah.
Fernando does my bae, yeah soyeah, I mean it was a lot of

(32:48):
effort, like you couldn't put itone fast, like the DVD burned.
You could burn a disc in like 5minutes.
If you're going to copy a 90minute video, it takes 90
minutes to copy the video.

Speaker 1 (32:58):
You have to press, play and record and let it play
and finish.

Speaker 2 (33:03):
So I remember one of the lads who remained nameless.

Speaker 3 (33:05):
He was desperate, I remember one of the lads who
will remain remain nameless yes,he was desperate for his copy
of the video it is.
It is a public podcast.

Speaker 2 (33:11):
I think I already know who it is actually
desperate, like literally, hejust passed his driving test.
So he must have been 17 anddrove to my house like when we
go home, where's my coffee,where's my coffee?
Where's my coffee?

Speaker 3 (33:24):
I was like I haven't done it yet.

Speaker 2 (33:28):
Can I take the original?
Yeah, you have it you just takethe original and just go back,
because all the other lads aregoing to want their coffees too.

Speaker 1 (33:34):
Different world, different world because we've
never seen anything like that,never seen anything like it.

Speaker 2 (33:43):
Anyway, gavin and Stacey the Gavin, anything like
it Different times, yeah.
So, anyway, gavin and Stacey,yes, gavin and Stacey, the Gavin
and Stacey Christmas specialwas very, very good.
It wasn't one of those thingsthat you just oh, it's
unbelievable.
There was a lot of stuff withlike, ah, the big bath, and
there's one scene when I won'teven give it away, a couple of
head-scratching moments, but itwas nice.

(34:04):
It was nice and they got it allwrapped up and gave it
something to watch on ChristmasDay Gambling Stasis.
As a whole, I think it's aseries worth watching, but I
think it ran its course.
It was a good show.
Good show.
Tips for Dads oh, Tips for DadsOkay.

Speaker 3 (34:20):
Tips for Dads Tips for.

Speaker 1 (34:22):
Dads Tips for Dads.

Speaker 3 (34:24):
Tips for for dads.
Tips for dads.
Tips for dads.

Speaker 1 (34:25):
Tips for dads get your tips out get your tips out.

Speaker 2 (34:28):
I've got one.
I had one that I was going todo and then, because of just a
rage induced moment, I changedmy mind.
So obviously people are coming,people with young children
coming after Christmas we'vealready given a tip of how to.
Well, if you still use VHS ifyou still use VHS, if you still
use VHS, if you still use VHSand you need some.

(34:49):
Spanish pornography duplicating.
Let me know, I'm sure I canprobably.

Speaker 3 (34:55):
There'll be someone out there that will find that
useful.

Speaker 2 (34:58):
Nobody owns VHS these days.
Do they VHS players?
Oh, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (35:02):
Will.
Are they VHS players?
Oh, I don't know.
Will VHS be the?

Speaker 2 (35:05):
next vinyl?
No, I don't think so.
Cassettes are threatening tomake fun back, but they're so
impractical.

Speaker 3 (35:11):
Yeah, they are Vinyl's still.

Speaker 1 (35:13):
Take a lot of room as well.

Speaker 2 (35:14):
Yeah, vinyl's got an actual quality to it.
If you put a vinyl on, it cansound incredible.

Speaker 3 (35:19):
And it doesn't take too much space.
Does it no space, is it no?

Speaker 2 (35:23):
and you get nice artwork to look at whereas your
VHS tape?

Speaker 3 (35:26):
yeah, it makes it a bit hollow as well when you
think about it.

Speaker 2 (35:30):
Yeah, probably not very environmentally friendly
either, like you know 72 milesof plastic but yeah, tips for
dads.
So tips for dads that areactually not related to
technology from 1997.
So I don't know about anybodyelse, but we've Post-Christmas.
My son was bought so much crap,all the crap, all the plastic

(35:55):
crap, all the cards, all thebits and bits Aside from his
Cornish godparents?
Obviously no, he Good qualitystuff, Yours, your present was
actually the first thing he used, Like straight away.
He Good quality stuff.
Yours.
Your present was actually thefirst thing you used like
straight away, oh nice.
We got another game and my wifewas like, what are we going to
do with this box?
And Brian was like, can I haveit?
I want to draw on it.
So we started painting a boxstraight away, oh nice.

(36:16):
But we have.
That box is which still haspiles of brain stuff from
Christmas which you know, it'slike where are we going to put
all this?
And you kind of you don't wantto put it away because then
you'll forget he has it.
But he is just.

(36:36):
Anyone with kids will probablyshare this, but they're just so
messy Like he just spreads allof this stuff over the whole
house.
It's in this room, it's in thefront room, it's up the stairs
house.
It's in this room, it's in thefront room, it's up the stairs,
it's in the dining room, it's inthe kitchen.
So my tips for that today tokind of like say okay, how do
you get kids to tidy up theircrap after themselves?

Speaker 1 (36:56):
and I wasn't going to do this one.

Speaker 2 (36:57):
Well I kind of I was like well, how do you do it?
And we have found that, we havefound a solution.
Um, you can't necessarily findthe solution online either.
It's probably not very.
It won't be very well receivedwith more woke parents and more
like oh my little angel's, adarling, oh my little angel.

(37:20):
Our tip is if your child dumpsshit everywhere, get a black bag
and throw their shit away.
Grab it and say we've told you.
If you don't tell your child topatch yourself, we've thrown it
in the bin.
And throw the stuff in the bin.
There's all these things onlineabout oh, why don't you try a
toy jail?
Why don't you make a clean upsong Toy jail?

(37:41):
It's a load of crap.
It's.
It's too, joe, it's a load ofcrap, it's just nonsense.
It's like can I be nice?
You know what?
Sometimes?
Kids just need to be, need torealise that no, we're not
playing around now.
You can't just leave crapeverywhere.
I don't want to tread on anymore lego figures and then you
shout at me for the broken it,because I'm not.
I thought you were going to saystick the child in a black bin

(38:06):
bag, chuck her out.
Yeah, just there you go.
You live on the streets now youhad your chance.
But there's I'm a firm believerhere that a bit of trauma.
I'm a firm believer here that abit of trauma and a bit of
genuine threat is not actuallythat bad a thing.
Every little line says no,you've got to be peaceful and
say come on now, darling daddywants you to tidy up.

(38:27):
Come on, let's do it.
With a smile.
No, it doesn't work.
You say pick that up now.
It's going in the bin.
And if they don't pick it up,get the bin, put it in the bin,
and then you soon see they tidyup.
Then, okay, okay, I'll geteverything, I'll tidy it now.
And it amazing because, likebreak, our kid has tried so many
things.
I don't know where to start.

(38:48):
I need help, I can't do it onmy own.
As soon as you put his switchinto a black bag, it's amazing
he just suddenly learns oh, Ican't, I can't.
Oh, I do know how to tidy up.
I did, but then you got theother one.
So take your shit upstairs andput it in your bedroom.
Okay, sometimes that's tooliteral, because they will
literally take everythingupstairs and just put it in your
bedroom.
You're like, okay, sometimesthat's too literal, because they
will literally take it upstairsand just dump it in the bedroom

(39:09):
.
So then you go upstairs in thebedroom and it's like Geoffrey
the giraffe from Toys R Us hascome in and just taken a massive
toy shit on the floor andyou're like girl, so you're just
chucking it on the floor.
How are you going to get intobed now?
Your bed is full of pens andpaper and tulle.

Speaker 3 (39:28):
How are you going to get into bed?
It's nice he's into pens, butis that the pen's creative state
?
Is that braiding?
Or is that that age group atthe moment?
Oh, I don't know I rememberwhen we were kids mean, you were
in Spain copying VHS, but forpeople like me, there was the

(39:50):
Tamagotchi era.
There was the yo-yo era, therewas the finger skateboard era.
Yeah, is Penz like him or isthat like a?

Speaker 2 (40:02):
No, penz has been a thing with him forever.
He's always loved to just drawand create.
He makes books and stuff.
He likes to write and he likesto.
He's very creative.
He's like you know.
I don't think you may listenback to this in the future, ask
him to write some podcastcontent.
Well, he always likes to be onthe podcast.

(40:23):
He's listened to his ownepisode, easter special from
years ago.
He's listened to it at leastfour times and he's like he
critiques himself.
It's like, oh sounding so young?

Speaker 3 (40:32):
is it a top listener?
It's a top listener's episode.
That episode's probably thesecond most popular one.

Speaker 2 (40:37):
But no, he does love to draw, but he just doesn't
turn it back to himself and andit's just everywhere.
So tips for dads is dads, don'ttake any BS.
Don't let them emotionallyblackmail.
You Kids sometimes need a bitof fear and they're like are you
going to follow through andactually throw the toys in the
bin?
Don't, I mean, put them in ablack bag and then if they say
I'm going to throw them away, ifthey push you, take the black

(40:59):
bag and put it outside orsomething.
But don't really a little bit,but try and let your main
business.
That's my tip for that.

Speaker 3 (41:08):
It's funny because, um, because so from our, from
our, because we had planningmeetings.
So we had a planning meetingbefore this season and we
decided mr hodgkiss is uh, is incharge of picking the topic for
uh.
Tips for dads and um so he kindof gave me a clue as to where he
was going.

(41:28):
And it's funny because so withLogan, the tip we have, so with
dinner time, lunch time andstuff, we actually get him to
clean his little table himselfVery good.
So, quite the opposite, we'reone of those parents, I suppose,
that, um, so we get him to do alittle song of cleaner, cleaner

(41:51):
, cleaner, cleaner, cleaner,cleaner, and he just cleans,
cleans himself.
So he's just, you know, just alittle uh wipe and he cleans the
, the table very good and andhimself, sometimes his face not
very well with some wet wipes.

Speaker 2 (42:09):
No black bin bags.
Well yeah, because you've gotto think, though Logan's two.

Speaker 3 (42:15):
There's a big difference.
He's not even two and Braden'snine, so there's quite a
difference.

Speaker 2 (42:21):
Yeah, if Logan was putting crap everywhere.

Speaker 3 (42:24):
So my tip to you wouldn't be Brayden?
Start singing Cleaner, cleaner,cleaner Well well for the
nine-year-old?

Speaker 2 (42:30):
I don't think Not quite as well.

Speaker 3 (42:33):
But give it a go, see what?

Speaker 2 (42:33):
happens.
Report on the next episode.

Speaker 3 (42:36):
How that goes.

Speaker 2 (42:37):
He's getting embarrassed by me now, Like he
never used to.
He's like oh, Danny, I loveDanny, daddy I love dad.

Speaker 3 (42:42):
What's the question about cleaning?

Speaker 2 (42:44):
try it.
I'll try it.
You know what I will.
I'm going for anything.
If it makes a difference, thenit means you don't think I'm
angry.
I'll try it.
So yeah, I'll try it.
I'll let you know next episodehow it goes.
I'll uh, I'll record it andsend you what happened.

Speaker 1 (42:56):
Yeah, please yeah, so you can see his face when he
just looks like what he waitingfor me.

Speaker 2 (43:01):
Daddy.

Speaker 3 (43:01):
Anymore he calls me dad, it's like oh no, we've got
a teenager who's nine we've had,uh well, we've had an awkward,
though I just said logan's um,not even two yet, um, but you
know, the words are starting tocome out a bit more now.
Um, and he's gone from dada toproper daddies to me, oh nice,
but he's calling georgie thewife of my mum.

Speaker 2 (43:24):
Oh and the shit, I'm just mum.

Speaker 3 (43:27):
No, it's too.
Not even too yet.
Mum, ma, and she's like mama ormommy, but, um, anyways, well,
yeah, tips for dad.
So that's my tip.
And then another tip I had, um,which is slightly different
topic, um, but to do with thebad back, because I started

(43:48):
noticing that a lot more Bendyour knees.
Bend your knees when you'relifting up your child or baby.
I used to be a baby.
I still was a baby.
But a little tip babies getheavier as they get older.
That's better.
It keeps getting heavier.

Speaker 2 (44:07):
So, yeah, bend your knees when you lift up I mean,
that's just general knowledge,william, everyone.
Better than to use your knees?
You're not meant to use yourback when you lift things.

Speaker 3 (44:15):
Well, yeah, I suppose so, but I presume Brayden's
heavier than he was at two yearsold.

Speaker 2 (44:20):
He is, yeah, slightly heavier, slightly heavier now,
yeah, not like you lift him asoften I suppose?
No, I remember when I had tostop having him on my shoulders
I was like you're too big now.

Speaker 3 (44:33):
You're too heavy.

Speaker 2 (44:35):
Like it hurts Because the brain would have come
everywhere on my shoulders.
Everywhere he went, he was onmy shoulders and like you'd walk
, you'd go for a walk, you know.
Even like like a few miles andstuff on my shoulders for a
while down he's light as afeather, not a problem.
When he got to about like five,six of them.
So I can't, I can't carry on myshoulder, I can carry you for
it.
No, actually I can't evenbother, you're gonna have to

(44:55):
walk it hurts.
So when that happens becauselogo, we're getting to the age
now where, like you can sit onyour shoulders I would imagine
um yeah, I'm not a strut yetit'll be coming, like if you
turn into, that'll be coming,and it's really sweet, it's like
such a nice dad thing to dohave your lad on your shoulder
it's really special and then,when you like, it's really like.

(45:17):
I'm never going to do thatagain, I'm never going to have
you on my shoulder, unlessyou're in a swim pool.

Speaker 3 (45:21):
In a swim pool, we Well, we do this part of our
bedtime routine just before bed.
So I usually end up sort ofbrushing his teeth and then down
the hallway from the bathroomto his bedroom.
We do a rocket launch Nice.

(45:43):
So literally like a rocket, Ilaunch him from that side to the
bedroom, he goes into thesleeping bag and then that's
like the handover as it were.
Yeah, but.

Speaker 2 (45:55):
Hold on to him, you don't actually throw him right.

Speaker 3 (45:58):
Yeah, just chuck him yeah just hold him five for each
one.
And then when he just flieslike a rocket across the, across
the hallway holding him, and,um, there's something happened
once, I think the wife wife saidyeah, you never know when your
last rocket is, is that?
Oh, because one day, it's true,because one day I won't be able

(46:21):
to do that, or he won't want it, or something but at the moment
they're still.

Speaker 2 (46:25):
They're still happening.
Enjoy what he can, enjoy whathe is uh, dad joke of the week.

Speaker 3 (46:32):
Oh, very good, dad joke of the week.
Dad joke of the week dad jokeof the week.
Why do the turkey cross theroad?

Speaker 2 (46:42):
I feel like I read to prove he wasn't chicken.

Speaker 3 (46:45):
Hey, I was trying to think of the answer.
I feel like I read this one Toprove he wasn't chicken.
Yay.

Speaker 2 (46:48):
I was trying to think of the answer.
I've heard this one.

Speaker 3 (46:52):
A little spoiler for the next episode, hopefully.
So over the Christmas period,like I said, various things are
happening.
I've had a couple of voicemails.
I've had a couple of voicemailsVery good From someone, so
let's have a little listen shallwe?

Speaker 1 (47:10):
Oh, I'd love to be on the podcast.

Speaker 2 (47:11):
I'll play the darts.
I'll come and play the dartsand I'm going to win the
championship, and then I'll comeon first.
Look norms Darts.

Speaker 3 (47:21):
That sounds like Michael Van Gerwen.
It was.
No way the Michael Van Gerwen,I don't know if anyone watched
the darts over Christmas andthen he sent me another final
one.

Speaker 2 (47:35):
Oh, don, this is Michael Van Gerwen.
I'm very sad, I lost the darts,the darts right there.
I lost the darts.
So I thought I would dosomething to cheer myself up
because I'm sad.
I would do some to cheer myselfup because I'm sad.
I would do some dance jokes.
I got one for you.
I got a joke for you.
Why did the dance player bringthe ladder to the dance match?
Because he wanted to aim higher.

(47:55):
Ha ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha,ha, ha, ha, ha ha.
Dance Ah, he, he, ah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (48:01):
So yeah lovely, yeah, yeah.
So yeah, lovely, yeah.
I don't know if listeners know,but yeah, I've got.
I've got Michael Van Gilman'snumber.
He sounded depressed.

Speaker 2 (48:12):
He sounded, he sounded down well but yeah, so
he's yeah, he might.

Speaker 3 (48:20):
He might join us on one of the future episodes, so
we look forward to that.
Did he join us?

Speaker 2 (48:23):
in season two.
I think you are done that.
Did he join us in season two?

Speaker 3 (48:26):
I think you are done.
Actually I don't know.

Speaker 2 (48:30):
Listen back I think, yeah, actually it did he's
coming back again.
He's coming back tune, in tunein to episode six maybe bye,
everybody, baby.

Speaker 1 (48:44):
Bye everybody, bye everybody, Bye everybody.
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