July 31, 2025 • 10 mins
Kidney stones can be tiny—but the pain is unforgettable. In this special Gnome Vault throwback, we revisit one of our earliest episodes to break down everything you need to know about kidney stones, including:
- Common kidney stone symptoms
- What causes them to form
- How to manage the pain
- When to seek medical help
- Tips for prevention and hydration
Whether you're dealing with your first kidney stone or just want to understand what those sharp pains might mean, this episode offers clear, helpful advice—with a touch of gnome wisdom.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hi there, first Look fans.
We're pressing pause on ourunusual episodes this week, not
because we've run out of dadjokes never but because one of
our trusty gnome hosts is kneedeep in a massive DIY home
renovation think sawdust, paintcans and a very confused Fear.
Not, we've opened up the gnomevault where we'll keep all our
(00:24):
favourite past episodes andtimeless conversations while one
of us buttles the chaos ofhomebrewing.
Sit back and enjoy this specialtrip into the archives.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Squatting in a one bedroom, I don't know what.
Would you call it A bed, not abed?
Sit now, um, shithole.
It was a one bedroom shitholeand we decided we were going to
um to take over the world.
(01:00):
So we were gonna we're gonnacall it first look homes, um,
but then, I don't know, life gotin the way and it never
happened.
It was going to be first lookhomes, homes, not gnomes, not
gnomes.
No, first look homes, firstlook gnomes, first look gnomes.
Came from, uh, my good friendcornish dan, here this, this, in
(01:22):
the last couple of weeks, wegot our first look at a thing
called a kidney stone.
Now, for any of you lovelylisteners out there who have
ever been unlucky enough to havea kidney stone, they're quite
painful.
So these are, these are littlestones that build up in your
kidneys.
They're made made up, usually,of oxalating calcium from what
(01:42):
you showed me?
no, that was just the fact I'dzoomed into it and had the
camera right by it.
It was actually tiny, but um,what size was it?
Would you say it was aboutthree millimeters.
Okay, so they, um, yes, theyform in your kidneys if you
basically half a pea half agarden pea no, not even as big
as that, it's um, but they comefrom not being hydrated enough.
(02:06):
So, kids, when your mom says todrink your water, drink your
water, because if you don't youmight end up with kidney stones.
Good advice, so, yes, and salt.
So the the gp said to me rightthen, so kidney stones, you need
to lay off red meat, don't addsalt to anything, and drink lots
and lots of water, and thenthey should flush out.
But yeah, it was, it was sore.
(02:26):
I was like flip me, what'sgoing on here?
So, yeah, don't eat too muchcow.
And if you are going to eat cow, certainly don't eat, don't add
salt to it.
You know we're doing thatvolumes.
You end up with you end up witha kidney stone or two.
So, um, so you ended up withtwo kidney stones.
Well, no one of them has passed, and they gave me a CT scan to
(02:47):
have a look at what was going on, was it?
passed, yes, passed through,yeah.
So it comes out in your wee-wee.
So it goes from your kidneydown your uterus I think it's
called a uterus.
I'm sure if any biologists havelistened to this it's not
pronounced that.
But then it goes from yourkidney to uterus and into your
(03:10):
bladder and then from yourbladder down your, down your
water pipe and out into thebottom of the toilet.
So I had this pain, painful andum yeah, yeah, it was the when
it started to move.
So it must have got a bit stuckwhen it was coming from the
kidney down to the bladder andthe pain in my side of my back
was just excruciating.
So I was like, right, I bettergo and get this checked out.
(03:32):
So I went up to the, went up tothe a&e, because I was like I
don't know what this pain is.
It's just come out of nowhereand explained where it was and
the nurse pretty much saidstraight away you may have a
kidney stone miscarriage case.
Can you do it?
Can you, can you pee in thisvial for us?
So I did a, did a pee in a vial, and then, um, she took it away
and came back 20 minutes lateryeah, we think you've got kidney
stones.
She's going to send you for ascan.
(03:53):
Just have a look.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
How do they know from just?
Speaker 3 (03:59):
uh blood in your penis.
So that's the telltale sign andjust where the pain was well,
just just the description of thepain.
Those, those doctors, they seemto know what they're doing.
So, um, they, yeah, took mysample, then sent me for a scan.
Um, the scanner had to wait twodays for because the hospitals
are busy.
(04:19):
So they sent me back home and Iwas like, okay.
So they said, listen out for itso they might pass it naturally
.
So when you wee, listen becauseyou might clink the side of the
toilet bowl.
And that's exactly whathappened.
So it just came out boof, clinkthe side of the toilet bowl.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
That's quite big.
Yeah, it does.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
And I was like I, I shouted, the wife was like
leslie come and look at this.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
And she went and got the marigolds and, uh, went,
went fishing, pulled it out andshe was like, yep, that's a
kidney stone there you go that'sit, that's it.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
That's why we call it .
Another reason why we call fishand kidney stones out of a
toilet bowl, because we fish forkidney stones.
So I'll give it a wash.
And uh, when I went from a scan, I took it up and they gave me
a scan and said, yes, uh, you'vegot another one on the other
side, uh, which is bigger.
It's a six millimeter one andsaid they're six millimeters.
(05:12):
They said that's right on theverge of being able to pass.
Naturally, I was like, okay, um.
So they said, right, we'regonna give you this stuff which
should relax your insides, and,um, let's see what happens over
the next four weeks.
So I've got to go back foranother ct scan to see if it's
moved.
And if it does start to move, Ithink the neighbors will hear
(05:32):
about it because I'll bescreaming like a girl.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
But um, well, if it's so, if it says it's on the
verge, that means it's a tightyes, so your uterus, your uterus
tube is can stretch it betweensix, six to eight millimeters.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
So it's um, yeah, it's just on the edge, usually
anything over six they have totake it out.
So they said if it does startto pass and get stuck they have
to go in to get it.
And you can imagine what I meanby go in so it comes out of it,
comes out of your, of your umyour little fella, so I've got
to go into your little fella.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
This is good content for the first episode, if you're
squeamish.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Just think about having to have a kidney stone
taken out with a, with a soundlike a little camera up there,
and then with a little laser onit with a little camera up there
and then with a little laser onit when you say stick camera up
there that's not like the oldUniversity of Multimedia.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
No, I imagine it's a lot smaller.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
They've got to go up the tube and then they've got a
little Iron man at the end of itwho lasers, it goes.
Pew, pew, pew, pew, it goes andbreaks it.
Tony Stark at the end of itbecause they say they break up
the stone and then apparently itshould flow out naturally.
So that'll be just.
That'll be just wonderful tohave that done.
So I don't know what I want moreto pass it naturally, or to go
(06:56):
and have someone put tony starkup my manhood, but uh, either
way, radical changes to the dietneed to happen now so what?
changes um, there's a lot ofstuff you can't eat.
So there's a thing calledoxalate, which is found in a lot
of foods.
(07:16):
So you're meant to try anddepending on what type of stone
is.
So 80% of kidney stones arecalcium oxalate stones, which
means they are made up ofcalcium and oxalate.
Funny that, but you think right.
Does that mean I need to stophaving calcium?
But the?
No, no, the opposite.
You have to start havingcalcium in your diet.
But the oxalate comes from alot of things you would like to
(07:39):
eat, so animal protein, so,again, steaks and cows and red
meat, and certain vegetables,certain fruits, certain nuts, um
, so I've got a kind of theygave me a a list of kind of good
food, bad food, and there'scertain things you need to avoid
.
Now there's one food inparticular which is I just don't
eat this.
If you have kidney stones,avoid it completely.
Kfc you would imagine kfc, butno, I'll give you another two
(08:04):
guesses.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
So food is avoid.
It's a food they said numberone.
You should avoid eating thisnumber one food avoid now that
is pretty high up there.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Try and avoid eating too much red meat.
You don't have to give it up,but just don't have it all the
time.
Food, it's a food.
It's a healthy food.
That you think what a healthyfood gives you?
Big strong muscles.
If you're a sailor, spinach,spinach really yeah like Popeye
yeah so Popeye had kidney stones.
I would imagine he probably did.
(08:35):
Yeah, olive, olive stones andkidney stones.
Oh because is it?
Oh, because too much iron.
No, no, no, it's just thisthing called oxalate.
Don't go on a chocolate spinachbinge where you just gorge
yourself silly on steak coveredin Nutella with a massive side
of spinach, because you will berolling on the floor in pain.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Yeah, I'll never look at spinach again spinach is
still healthy.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
It's just too much.
Of it can release too muchoxalate into your body and yeah,
but the absolute biggest thingis just hydration.
You've got to drink, drink,drink.
So at the minute they've toldme to try and drink four liters
a day, I tell you, on the plus,I've never been so hydrated in
my life.
I feel great like I've neverhad so much energy just because
I'm drinking so much.
And you always think, oh yeah,I'm hydrated enough.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
But yeah, when you actually try and drink four
liters a day, you never are, youknow jitni stones are hard
mineral deposits that forminside your kidneys when certain
substances like calcium oxalateand uric acid become too
concentrated in your urine.
These stones can range in sizefrom a grain of sand to a small
(09:46):
pebble and while tiny, they cancause intense pain when passing
through your urinary tract.
Symptoms to watch for includesudden severe pain in your back
or side pain during urination,pink or reddish urine, nausea or
even a constant urge to gowithout much output.
If you're experiencing thesesigns, especially if there's
(10:07):
blood in your urine, seekmedical help.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
Thanks for taking a trip into the gnome vault with
us.
We hope you enjoyed this look.
We'll be back with freshepisodes soon, once the DIY dust
settles.
In the meantime, if you lovedthis throwback core any episode,
help us out by sharing thepodcast with a friend, leaving a
review or shouting us out onsocial media, and we'd love to
(10:35):
hear from you.
Got thoughts, feedback or justwant to say hi?
Drop us an email atfirstlooknomes at outlookcom.
We read every message.
Until next time, stay curiousand stay weird.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
It comes out in your wee-wee.
Hi there, first Look fans.
We're pressing pause on ourunusual episodes this week, not
because we've run out of dadjokes never but because one of
our trusty gnome hosts is kneedeep in a massive DIY home
renovation think sawdust, paintcans and a very confused Fear.
Not, we've opened up the gnomevault where we'll keep all our
(00:24):
favourite past episodes andtimeless conversations while one
of us buttles the chaos ofhomebrewing.
Sit back and enjoy this specialtrip into the archives.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Squatting in a one bedroom, I don't know what.
Would you call it A bed, not abed?
Sit now, um, shithole.
It was a one bedroom shitholeand we decided we were going to
um to take over the world.
(01:00):
So we were gonna we're gonnacall it first look homes, um,
but then, I don't know, life gotin the way and it never
happened.
It was going to be first lookhomes, homes, not gnomes, not
gnomes.
No, first look homes, firstlook gnomes, first look gnomes.
Came from, uh, my good friendcornish dan, here this, this, in
(01:22):
the last couple of weeks, wegot our first look at a thing
called a kidney stone.
Now, for any of you lovelylisteners out there who have
ever been unlucky enough to havea kidney stone, they're quite
painful.
So these are, these are littlestones that build up in your
kidneys.
They're made made up, usually,of oxalating calcium from what
(01:42):
you showed me?
no, that was just the fact I'dzoomed into it and had the
camera right by it.
It was actually tiny, but um,what size was it?
Would you say it was aboutthree millimeters.
Okay, so they, um, yes, theyform in your kidneys if you
basically half a pea half agarden pea no, not even as big
as that, it's um, but they comefrom not being hydrated enough.
(02:06):
So, kids, when your mom says todrink your water, drink your
water, because if you don't youmight end up with kidney stones.
Good advice, so, yes, and salt.
So the the gp said to me rightthen, so kidney stones, you need
to lay off red meat, don't addsalt to anything, and drink lots
and lots of water, and thenthey should flush out.
But yeah, it was, it was sore.
(02:26):
I was like flip me, what'sgoing on here?
So, yeah, don't eat too muchcow.
And if you are going to eat cow, certainly don't eat, don't add
salt to it.
You know we're doing thatvolumes.
You end up with you end up witha kidney stone or two.
So, um, so you ended up withtwo kidney stones.
Well, no one of them has passed, and they gave me a CT scan to
(02:47):
have a look at what was going on, was it?
passed, yes, passed through,yeah.
So it comes out in your wee-wee.
So it goes from your kidneydown your uterus I think it's
called a uterus.
I'm sure if any biologists havelistened to this it's not
pronounced that.
But then it goes from yourkidney to uterus and into your
(03:10):
bladder and then from yourbladder down your, down your
water pipe and out into thebottom of the toilet.
So I had this pain, painful andum yeah, yeah, it was the when
it started to move.
So it must have got a bit stuckwhen it was coming from the
kidney down to the bladder andthe pain in my side of my back
was just excruciating.
So I was like, right, I bettergo and get this checked out.
(03:32):
So I went up to the, went up tothe a&e, because I was like I
don't know what this pain is.
It's just come out of nowhereand explained where it was and
the nurse pretty much saidstraight away you may have a
kidney stone miscarriage case.
Can you do it?
Can you, can you pee in thisvial for us?
So I did a, did a pee in a vial, and then, um, she took it away
and came back 20 minutes lateryeah, we think you've got kidney
stones.
She's going to send you for ascan.
(03:53):
Just have a look.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
How do they know from just?
Speaker 3 (03:59):
uh blood in your penis.
So that's the telltale sign andjust where the pain was well,
just just the description of thepain.
Those, those doctors, they seemto know what they're doing.
So, um, they, yeah, took mysample, then sent me for a scan.
Um, the scanner had to wait twodays for because the hospitals
are busy.
(04:19):
So they sent me back home and Iwas like, okay.
So they said, listen out for itso they might pass it naturally
.
So when you wee, listen becauseyou might clink the side of the
toilet bowl.
And that's exactly whathappened.
So it just came out boof, clinkthe side of the toilet bowl.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
That's quite big.
Yeah, it does.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
And I was like I, I shouted, the wife was like
leslie come and look at this.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
And she went and got the marigolds and, uh, went,
went fishing, pulled it out andshe was like, yep, that's a
kidney stone there you go that'sit, that's it.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
That's why we call it .
Another reason why we call fishand kidney stones out of a
toilet bowl, because we fish forkidney stones.
So I'll give it a wash.
And uh, when I went from a scan, I took it up and they gave me
a scan and said, yes, uh, you'vegot another one on the other
side, uh, which is bigger.
It's a six millimeter one andsaid they're six millimeters.
(05:12):
They said that's right on theverge of being able to pass.
Naturally, I was like, okay, um.
So they said, right, we'regonna give you this stuff which
should relax your insides, and,um, let's see what happens over
the next four weeks.
So I've got to go back foranother ct scan to see if it's
moved.
And if it does start to move, Ithink the neighbors will hear
(05:32):
about it because I'll bescreaming like a girl.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
But um, well, if it's so, if it says it's on the
verge, that means it's a tightyes, so your uterus, your uterus
tube is can stretch it betweensix, six to eight millimeters.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
So it's um, yeah, it's just on the edge, usually
anything over six they have totake it out.
So they said if it does startto pass and get stuck they have
to go in to get it.
And you can imagine what I meanby go in so it comes out of it,
comes out of your, of your umyour little fella, so I've got
to go into your little fella.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
This is good content for the first episode, if you're
squeamish.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Just think about having to have a kidney stone
taken out with a, with a soundlike a little camera up there,
and then with a little laser onit with a little camera up there
and then with a little laser onit when you say stick camera up
there that's not like the oldUniversity of Multimedia.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
No, I imagine it's a lot smaller.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
They've got to go up the tube and then they've got a
little Iron man at the end of itwho lasers, it goes.
Pew, pew, pew, pew, it goes andbreaks it.
Tony Stark at the end of itbecause they say they break up
the stone and then apparently itshould flow out naturally.
So that'll be just.
That'll be just wonderful tohave that done.
So I don't know what I want moreto pass it naturally, or to go
(06:56):
and have someone put tony starkup my manhood, but uh, either
way, radical changes to the dietneed to happen now so what?
changes um, there's a lot ofstuff you can't eat.
So there's a thing calledoxalate, which is found in a lot
of foods.
(07:16):
So you're meant to try anddepending on what type of stone
is.
So 80% of kidney stones arecalcium oxalate stones, which
means they are made up ofcalcium and oxalate.
Funny that, but you think right.
Does that mean I need to stophaving calcium?
But the?
No, no, the opposite.
You have to start havingcalcium in your diet.
But the oxalate comes from alot of things you would like to
(07:39):
eat, so animal protein, so,again, steaks and cows and red
meat, and certain vegetables,certain fruits, certain nuts, um
, so I've got a kind of theygave me a a list of kind of good
food, bad food, and there'scertain things you need to avoid
.
Now there's one food inparticular which is I just don't
eat this.
If you have kidney stones,avoid it completely.
Kfc you would imagine kfc, butno, I'll give you another two
(08:04):
guesses.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
So food is avoid.
It's a food they said numberone.
You should avoid eating thisnumber one food avoid now that
is pretty high up there.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Try and avoid eating too much red meat.
You don't have to give it up,but just don't have it all the
time.
Food, it's a food.
It's a healthy food.
That you think what a healthyfood gives you?
Big strong muscles.
If you're a sailor, spinach,spinach really yeah like Popeye
yeah so Popeye had kidney stones.
I would imagine he probably did.
(08:35):
Yeah, olive, olive stones andkidney stones.
Oh because is it?
Oh, because too much iron.
No, no, no, it's just thisthing called oxalate.
Don't go on a chocolate spinachbinge where you just gorge
yourself silly on steak coveredin Nutella with a massive side
of spinach, because you will berolling on the floor in pain.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Yeah, I'll never look at spinach again spinach is
still healthy.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
It's just too much.
Of it can release too muchoxalate into your body and yeah,
but the absolute biggest thingis just hydration.
You've got to drink, drink,drink.
So at the minute they've toldme to try and drink four liters
a day, I tell you, on the plus,I've never been so hydrated in
my life.
I feel great like I've neverhad so much energy just because
I'm drinking so much.
And you always think, oh yeah,I'm hydrated enough.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
But yeah, when you actually try and drink four
liters a day, you never are, youknow jitni stones are hard
mineral deposits that forminside your kidneys when certain
substances like calcium oxalateand uric acid become too
concentrated in your urine.
These stones can range in sizefrom a grain of sand to a small
(09:46):
pebble and while tiny, they cancause intense pain when passing
through your urinary tract.
Symptoms to watch for includesudden severe pain in your back
or side pain during urination,pink or reddish urine, nausea or
even a constant urge to gowithout much output.
If you're experiencing thesesigns, especially if there's
(10:07):
blood in your urine, seekmedical help.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
Thanks for taking a trip into the gnome vault with
us.
We hope you enjoyed this look.
We'll be back with freshepisodes soon, once the DIY dust
settles.
In the meantime, if you lovedthis throwback core any episode,
help us out by sharing thepodcast with a friend, leaving a
review or shouting us out onsocial media, and we'd love to
(10:35):
hear from you.
Got thoughts, feedback or justwant to say hi?
Drop us an email atfirstlooknomes at outlookcom.
We read every message.
Until next time, stay curiousand stay weird.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
It comes out in your wee-wee.
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