August 26, 2025 • 41 mins
James Farr is a journalist whose work appears in the LA Progressive. He Hosts KBLA 1580's "Conversation Live: Altadena Rising." On this podcast, James and Dominique talk about Altadena recovery and Kenya Barris and Mike Epps' new sitcom detouring out of Altadena following pushback. James struggles with sympathizing with Trump violating people's 4th Amendment rights, saying "Black men's rights have never stopped being violated."
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Okay, b La Talk fifteen eighty. Good morning, Happy Monday,
God bless I'm Dominique de Prima. The show. It's called
First Things First and my very first thing. Every single
day given thanksgiving, praises and asking for blessings from God,
asking for the blessings of the ancestors and the elders.
And let's go. This is Monday Strong. That's what we
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Our two we start off with Mindful Monday to get
ourselves in alignment with purpose and intention. Then we open
up the phone lines. We do national, international, and beyond,
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and in the third hour we do a deep dive
with the hot topic. Well, it's the last Monday of
the month, so it's Black Marriage Monday, and we'll be
learning a thing or two about relationships from an expert
in the space. Those of us who are not married
and perhaps aspire to a future relationship, and those who are.
I want to keep it strong. Whether you got some
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black love going or you are the Rainbow coalition, It's
all good. The principals apply. We still call it black
Marriage Monday. That's what we going on today as usual.
You're invited in every hour at eight hundred and nine
to oh fifteen eighty. Love your input, your feedback, even
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So eight hundred nine two oh fifteen eighty. You can
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rather robust, and you can watch because we're streaming live
each and every day. It is the last Monday of
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the month. The other thing that happens the last Monday
of the month is this guy named James Farr joins me.
He is a contributor to the LA Progressive, got his
own show on KBLA Now Conversation Live Altadena Rising. He's
a dad and the producer of film festivals and other
such things. James Far good.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Morning, Good morning, dominic. How you doing.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
I'm blessed, highly favored.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
How art thou you know what I'm here? I'm excited.
I'm also in that an unfamiliar space. My daughter left
to go to college last week, and.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
So yeah, that's a big thing.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Yeah, and it's really hidden.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Yeah, how's your wife holding up? Oh?
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Wife, he's great.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
So you're the one crying, is what you're saying.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Well, you know, my eyes sweat occasionally, especially for things
that I love dearly and am passionate about. But you know,
letting go, and you're first born, it's an adjustment.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
You have two, so you guys are not quite empty nesters.
In fact, it's going to be a minute because you
got a space between your.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
It's like refinancing your house. Right. So I got one
in college and one in elementary school, so we still
got to do middle school all over again and high
school in this whole other cycle.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
But well, congratulations, though, I mean, I feel like getting
them now, if they graduate college, that's even a bigger bonus.
But I feel like if we get them to college
into college, we have done a big part of our job.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Yeah, and I'm so excited. I mean, I'm a proud
We're proud HBCU parents. Now that Okay, she chose to
chose to be in a space and in proximity with community,
with folks that are like her and find her tribe
and I'm just I'm excited for her future, but that's
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still my baby.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Girl, no doubt. Well, congrats to you and the family.
It is definitely back to school time. A lot of
my friends are, you know, paying tuition and taking their
kids somewhere that part, And I mean, look, you can
always go to community college, but for some reason, we
don't always look at that.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Well, I mean it was on the table. But she
had a very good education through the public school system
that prepared her for this next step. So we essentially
haven't paid tuition since she was in like pre K
and stuff like that, so you know, you put a
couple of dollars aside.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
And yeah, I mean that's smart. And the thing about
it is that's why a lot of people will move
out to the Pasadena Altadena area where you live, because
they are supposed to have great schools.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Yeah, Elementary, she went through a dual immersion program, so
she's literate and fluid and Mandarin. She went to Losa
Performing Arts High School over on cass LA's campus, which
has a very rigorous academic component to it. But this
next step takes her to the East.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Well, DMV, she'll be very well rounded and she's already
very employable, which is good. So a lot going on
as usual, and it's hot. LA Times had an article,
I guess the heat wave is supposedly ended yesterday, but
I'll believe it when I see it. Yeah, Oh is
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it a heat wave out?
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Oh it's hot.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Yeah. I mean I know Inland Empire, but I just
don't think about I guess Pasadena, Altadena.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
The difference is because very dry heat, no wind.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Yeah. Well apparently, and a shout out to Andy. Andy
is holding it down for miles this week. We are
in good hands. But apparently the doctors in especially in
emergency rooms, are saying, and this is from the LA Times,
that we need to pay more attention to heat and
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doctors need to be more educated about it, because not
only can you have heat stroke, heat exhaustion, or there's
another one. I don't know, there's three different heat diseases
that you get, but and heat stroke is the most
serious and people die from it. Not only that, but
people that already have existing conditions are more likely to
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kick the bucket from in extreme heat. So that means
what they're saying is a lot of times doctors don't
even attribute it to the high temperatures. They just think, oh,
they died from diabetes, asthma, whatever it might be, when
in fact it's the heat putting pressure on the body
which activates that disease.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
I mean, that's why it's important. You know you're gonna
do activities, try to do them early in the day.
You know that hours between two three is when the
sun is at its highest peak. And so I even
felt the last couple of days and my dog went
crazy because I wasn't walking him as much, because it's
like your body heats up and you can't cool down right.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Well, Plus, you know, the doggies can burn their paws,
that's what I heard. So you can either have to
get them doggy shoes or don't walk them.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Or you get up at six, Get up the crack
of Don and do that.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Six is not the crack of Don James, the crack
for most people except for you, because I think three
is the crack of dog. Yeah. Well, shoot, at least
I'm not doing front page anymore when I have to
be at work at four fifteen.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Yeah, I mean, you're up, you're early riser.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
I'm living that good life now. I don't have to
be here till five point fifty nine and thirty seconds. Look,
you're invited in every hour eight hundred and nine two
oh fifteen eighty, eight hundred nine to fifteen eighty, but
it is true, like we got to check on our neighbors,
especially those that are older adults. If you know, if
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power goes out and you have a generator, think about it.
If you can't get your insulin in the fridge or right,
you can't cool down because it's been hot at night.
So if you're like me and you don't have air
conditioning in your house, well, one.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Of the things we've learned just coming through this latest
disaster and everything is like I have a power source now,
right back up, backup, power source. It's charged, ready to go.
You know, it can get us through a few hours.
It's not a long term solution or our generator, but
at least in the immediacy if we lose power, I
have something that we can plug into, get our phones
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plugged up. Maybe a fan or yeah, you know, space heater.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
That's smart. It is. It's kind of feel extra scary.
I mean, I know it's not windy this time, but
all these fire advisories and heat warnings. Living out there
in Pasadena's got to feel extra scary.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
You know, it's different. It's different because there's a certain awareness,
you know, seven and a half months out, but you know,
this is Southern California. Fires is nothing new. It's you know,
as Mayor Bass told me, there is no fire season anymore, right, It's.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Just it's always fire.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
It's always fire season.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Yeah, so it shows you don't feel traumatized by it.
You just look at it as a condition of living
around here.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
No, I don't feel traumatized because my proximity to when
the fire hit and what I had to deal with
is far different than those who had flames one hundred
yards from their door, right, So I could see that
being a little bit different. I'm traumatized by seeing southern
California Edison power lines, which are the causation of the fire,
which is in my neighborhood, which is in my backyard.
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That's triggering every day, Yeah, I can imagine.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Well. And of course, the La Times, amazingly considering the
direction they've taken, points out that a lot of the
areas that are hottest and hardest hit are lower income
areas where they don't let us have the tree canopy
for some reason. Places like skid row where if you're
stuck outside, you're going to be hot all day and
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if it doesn't cool down, you're gonna be hot all night.
So it's a health equity issue, a racial justice issue
in hopefully the doctors are starting to look and see,
you know what, this climate emergency has health impacts. So
when it gets crazy hot like this, we need to
take that into account when folks show up in the er,
because it's a real thing. People die from heat every
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single day, and you're right, Andy, we gotta hydrate even
more than usual. James Farres here, I'm Dominique Diaprima. Andy's here.
You're invited in eight hundred and nine to fifteen eighty.
We're unapologetically progressive. KBLA Talk fifteen eighty. Right now we're
back to me, Dominique Diaprima, but also James Farr, he's
in the studio with me. And I want my credit
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dog on it.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Credit.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
I want my dog on credit. First things first is
the farm team of KBLA he Talk, fifteen eighty. It
is the absolute farm team. How's it going on Saturdays?
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Saturdays? Is going? We're about twenty four episodes and coming.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Up on t and how did that? How did that
show come to be? That's what I'm talking about. I
want my credit. Twenty episodes in is good, James, you're
a radio vetter in then twenty.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Three you know what? Almost I'm on my way. No.
First of all, of course, you know you plant the
seeds by and water at the seed here. The event
created the need for the show. And you know, I
believe you and Tavis kind of huddled up and next
thing I know it was that.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Is exactly right, me and Tavis huddled up here.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Here's a microphone like sixteen days later.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Yeah, well, God is good. But I mean, obviously it's
Tavis's show. He decides who gets a show and who
doesn't get a show. He has this is his baby.
But we are the freaking farm team, and I want
my credit. You got it. Some of the best shows
on KBLA, some of the best hosts come out of
this room, and James is one of them. So if
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you haven't heard his show, I'll to do you and Rise,
I mean Conversation Live Altadena Rising. It's Saturdays at ten.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
You know, because if you can do time with Dominique.
You can prove your.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Crib mea river if you want to do a if
you want to be on a super Bowl team, you
got to do a Super Bowl workout. And that's what
it is.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
I'm with you, I'm right there with you know. But
the show is going great through response is great. I'm
hearing from listeners across the world. You know, people across
the country. You know, I providing the space for people
locally to you know, talk about what's going on. You know,
there's a bit of a story arc that we're trying
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to follow, but it's you know, I think it's important
for people to to know externally you think people are
just rebuilding, right, Yeah, well it's it's not what people
think about. One hundred and fifty permits have been issue.
I only know two black families who have actually put
a shovel in the ground, and so there are a
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lot of financial gains black families. Wow, that's true.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Sad, but not surprised.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
And you can hear the Emerson family this Saturday, who
is one of those families that have broken ground. I
had to rebuild them to rebuild. I had the privilege
of being at their groundbreaking ceremony last week. Nice, but
it's it's it's a difficult thing for a lot of people.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Yeah, well, I'm glad you're there tracking it because you've
got that big virgo energy, which means you're thorough, you know,
and we'll we'll know, like we'll know we're getting in
accurate tracking of what's happening. So thank you for that.
Molly Bell says, Dominique brought James Farr to us prior
to the fires. Now he has his own show and
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we know him even more intimately. Love to y'all. Nice
Molly Bell, Thank.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
You, Miss Molly Bell always hugs and and love and support.
And you know my Bell is a real one. No,
for sure, I'm a fan.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Terry Terror, well you should be, Terry. Terry says, you
look conservative. You don't look progressive.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
What does conservative look like?
Speaker 1 (14:14):
It could be that little you know, paper boy cap
and the glasses.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
I mean, you know, doctor West had a whole different
take on that. So Terry, you have to listen to this.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
He said, you don't look conservative.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
He said something much more flattering and complimentary of my aesthetic.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Right, That's that's how he's always.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
So it's just gratuitous.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
I'm not saying it's gratuitous. I'm just saying that's doctor West.
He always has something kind to say about everybody. Okay,
unless your name is dj T.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
I'm gonna sit right now. I'm a sit in the
space that I had with him. But now, brother Terry,
I think I self identify as a husband, a father,
and a black man, because a black man is what
you see.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
First, you self identify. I mean, yeah, okay, you're confusing
me right now. How not self identify as a father
when you go home and the kids are going down?
Because because some fathers like I don't identify as a father,
leave me alone.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Because some fathers are part time, some fathers are no time,
and and some you know, and those things. So that
label of you know, I look like a conservative and
not a or not a progressive. I don't even know
what that means.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Right well, he's got his Dina Love, Dina l a Love.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
I don't think you can get any more progressive.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Maybe you need some locks or something.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Some locks. I don't think you need to change my
name or something called James Love.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
You know, yes, now that's too throwback you need anyway.
But Jacqueline Anderson says love Alta, Dina rising, I'm on
Saturday Mornings, and Courtney says month of the Virgo man,
brother far you win always.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
That's right. It is Virgo season. That's how you were
supposed to start the show off.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Was it your dog on birthday?
Speaker 2 (16:08):
It's coming up?
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Is it your birthday today?
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Though no, I said acknowledged Virgo season. I didn't say
acknowledge my birthday.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
I'm saying that it's Michael Jackson's birthday this week, so
we know it's Virgo season. Friday is MJ's birthday.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
You know, I think the greatest Mind? When is your
picular September seventh, the greatest Mind?
Speaker 1 (16:30):
No way? Did I know that already?
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Probably, but you know it's a small, small detail.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Yeah, I have it on my calendar. I know that.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
That's fine. I mean, you haven't forgotten that the greatest.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Mind that's birthday it is.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
That's doctor west Father's birthday. I mean, there are a
lot of great virgos, and I.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Think the great birthday.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Around here are all virgos.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
Okay, well, I'm not taking up that fight. I know
you're trying to pick a fight with me. God bless y'all.
Y'all do things the way you do things, and we're
grateful for it, yes, and we want to leave that
right there with care. Care is one way to describe it.
So a lot of Altadena Pasadena people got mad because
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Kenya Barris, who's a big TV guy he created Blackish
and other hits, has teamed up with Mike Epps to
do a sitcom, a comedy show that was meant to
be based in Altadena Pasadena, and a lot of people
were angry, saying, you can't laugh at our pain. It's
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not fair, it's not right. I you know, maybe I
had a little more latitude toward them because I'm I'm
a Screen Actors Guild member. I've been on television shows,
and I know if they're talking about it now, it
won't be actually on TV for another six months to
a year. But you were one of those people that
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wasn't feeling it right, James, No.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
I mean initially, Jill Monroe, host of an RSVP here
on the station, reached out to.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Me our entertainment show, entertainment show. Another great host who
didn't start here, by the way, in this room.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
How'd you miss that? Anyway? She reached out to me
for kind of my thoughts and whatnot, and you know,
my initial reaction was, it's not there's nothing funny happening
right now. I love both Mike Epps and Kenya Burrs Bars.
I love their brand of comedy, but I think in
this moment, people are still trying to put their lives together.
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And while I get the laughter can be healing, there's
nothing funny Domini.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
But it's first of all, it wouldn't be out until
another year from now probably.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
And people still won't be home.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
Yeah, and that's true. And second of all, the premise
is where the comedy comes from. They're not going ha
ha people lost their home. It's because these two brothers
are forced to move in with each other because one
is displaced by the fires and their interaction. I mean,
sitcoms are situational, right, so it's the situation, not Altadena. Well,
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apparently they've changed the location they're keeping the show, but
it will no longer be based in Altadena.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
You know, I think the people spoke. I think they listened.
I want to believe that they didn't intend to announce
that or that was a very low budget focus group.
They really took the temperature of how the audience would respond.
The backlash was immediate. What I didn't know prior to
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had never heard that Kenya was from Altadena. I've never
heard that prior to the announcement.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
That change how you feel about it?
Speaker 2 (19:47):
It absolutely changes how I feel about it. I mean,
because who has the right to tell a story? Right?
People could argue, why are you talking about it? Why
am I talking about it? Why is everybody else talking
about it? Yeah? I mean, but still it.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
It's and I talk about it because it's my job.
But you're right, it does. I think it makes a difference.
But I also think that it could have been a
missed opportunity because it continues to bring the conversation to Altadena.
You know what I mean, when it's out of the headlines,
when it's no longer a hot topic, having.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Well, it's hot every Saturday at ten am, it's in
the Conversation Live.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
You have a very popular show. But you know, Mike
Epps is a huge starr. Bearis is a huge star.
I just I don't agree, but I would obviously defer
to those who are suffering through this. Sure, if y'all
don't want it, then yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
You know, I'm not qualified to talk about TV in
that kind. But it's not a tremaine. It wasn't going
to be a wire. I imagine it's going to be
as it would have been a sound stage.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
We've got news, traffick and sports. You know, the clock
will be continuing this conversation when we come forward on
Hey Bla Talk fifteen eighty. Indeed, thank you, I thank
you for waking up with me. James Farr is also here,
and you're invited in eight hundred and nine two oh
fifteen eighty. Eight hundred nine two oh fifteen eighty. That's
the number if you've got a thing to say about
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anything we're talking about or something else. Bottom line is
that sitcom is no longer going to be set in
Altadena Pasadena. I don't know where they're going to put it.
I don't know if that fixes the problem for residents
because the premise is still a fire and then they're displaced.
And does it fix the problem for you?
Speaker 2 (21:38):
I mean yes and no. Right again, with understanding that
Kenyan Barrus is from Altadena, it changes how I look
at it, and I think people the initial reaction, you know,
was kind of around the economy that's created, you know,
is money going back? Are they supporting in any way?
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We just got to keep it a buck, right, dominique.
If the contractors you're hiring, the people hauling the dirt,
everything else, there's a disaster economy happening period. There's also
disaster entertainment that comes out of this. You'll see documentaries,
you'll see movies. We've seen it. I mean right now,
Katrina twenty years. It's on every station and network. So
(22:23):
I don't think it's fair that people wanted to assign
that to them when others are doing other things. Now.
I think what Tiffany Hattish did a few weeks ago
with the gubernatorial candidate Mike Stephen Klubec was a political stunt.
Was casting people in a political video.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Okay, so for those who weren't following, because it's very
alta Dina.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Yes, a couple of weeks ago she did a grocery giveaway.
Gave away one hundred and fifty dollars worth of groceries
to people. Announced it, you know, next day type.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Thing, is it? Anybody who showed up could get the groceries.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
That's what it turned out to be. In fairness, to her.
She said, you know, she was addressing a food shortage
and being hungry, and I believe her heart was in
the right way. But when you pull do this event
on the exact seven month anniversary right in the community
where just around the corner folks lost their homes and everything,
the impact is going to land there. First they announced it,
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thousand so people lined up on the hottest day of
the year since the fire, right elders in line. Some
people didn't get it, weren't it.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
Some people didn't get food to.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Some people weren't able to get food, and then to
act as a surrogant. And that was the question I
raised on Conversation Live Altaden rioting, and is this charity
or surrogancy When you're walking around a gubernatorial candidate who
tells black folks don't steal, I'm paying for it. It
just landed real. He said that on her lives.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Oh my gosh. Well, actually that was good because he
exposed himself. But I mean, here's the thing. Are you
saying that that Tiffany Hatten shouldn't have done that, or
just that she shouldn't have brought that candidate.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
No, I think she should have done whatever her heart
told her to do right. I'm not telling her what
her heart or should be. It's just that we're seven
months after this fire. There's a different way to get
aid and relief to people that doesn't require them to
be cast in a campaign video as extras and they
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don't even know that they're in on it. That was
kind of the low part of it. Her heart was there,
She could have contacted other local organizations. People could have
picked up give cards in a much more decent way.
We're past having paper towels thrown at us.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Yeah, well, I mean I can see the critique. I
know from the charitable work that we do in Africa
when we go with people, is that there's an art
to giving stuff away too, you know what I mean.
And sometimes if you go in without having that expertise,
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particularly culturally competent to the specific area where you're doing
that work, you can cause more problems than you solve, right,
And I've seen that firsthand, you know, especially when people
just are enthusiastic and they want to help, and then
they they don't take into consideration all the all of
the conditions on the ground.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
I mean, I would invite anyone who wants to do
something on that level. And again, one hundred and fifty
dollars on thousand people. It's one hundred and fifty thousand dollars.
So we're not talking about a whole lot of money,
but it's a lot of money.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
That's a lot of money.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
I mean what I'm saying to a billionaire, that's not
a lot of money dominating.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Tiffany Hattison is not a billion.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Michael Klubec is a billionaire.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Oh, I got you.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Yeah, that's not a lot of money change for him,
less than a day's interest. Right, I would invite and
challenge anyone meet me at the local hardware store. Folks
need hammers, they need nails and he wood, they need drywall,
there are other needs. Right, Yes, there's a food shortage.
I'm with that, but it just didn't land well.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
I mean, and we know that Tiffany Hattish is doing
work in the food space. I mean, she's got a
grocery store that she's working on. This is a particular
issue of hers and from what I can tell, she's
trying to break the food desert here in South LA.
She was on the show talking about it. She's working
with black farmers and other Farmers. You know, I think
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it's great work that she's doing. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
That.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
You know, maybe she needs a political director to work
with her.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
I don't know if it is, because I remember.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
The trip to Israel, for example. She took a lot
of critique because she went there and she only got
the Israeli government side of the story. She didn't go
to Gaza, she didn't have Palestinian contacts, and again, her
heart was probably in the right place. But if she
had a political director, someone would say, hey, you know,
tiff maybe we should have more than one side of
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the story here. Hey, maybe we should have you know,
if we're getting this guy to underwrite this, maybe we
should do it a different way, not make a video
or give the stuff out in an air conditioned warehouse
so people don't have to stand outside who are eighty
years old or whatever.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Well, I think, and I don't know Tiffany, So this.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Isn't a judge.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
I don't know her.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
I mean, she's a kind person. I believe.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
I believe that her heart was in the very right place,
but I think she just wasn't politically astoope that particular era.
Altadena has an eighty percent voter turnout. That's black folks
voting right. And so when you look at Stephen Klubec,
billionaire who announced his campaign on election night, the night
of the results, who is really running this as a
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marketing campaign? It just landed with someone that may have
been naive about what the other.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
Implications marketing campaign meaning? What meaning that current all candidacies
marketing campaigns are marketing yourself.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
But disasters aren't supposed to be political theater.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
No, they're not.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
If you want to come help, help, be their help.
But the introduction the surrogency, I hope you show up
for us as governor. That's where the line got crossed.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Yeah, well I'm not going to argue with that. You
know to if I'm available. If you need a political director,
so is James. He might be better at it because anyway,
Jerry Anderson says in the Chat situation, comedies deal with
touchy subjects all the time. Ken you Barris did it
very well and Blackish and Grownish, Yes, delicate issue, but
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drives a good narrative. The rawness of the issue today
won't be the same a year from now. Some art
requires a long lead to be right on time.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Well, a whole neighborhood. Now, Tadina got mad at me
because to Jill, I said, I mean I believe they
would deliver intellectually humorous comedy right with some message through
and through.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
And keep the topic a lot. Well, okay, I like
talk radio.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
I like it.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
If you don't make some people mad on any given day,
you're not doing your job.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
I liked. I like their art, I like their brand.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Jerry says she doesn't need a political director, she just
needs a real friend.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Now, she just wasn't ready for this as.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
Long as her real friend is politically sophisticated. Yeah, she
probably has real friends, but they're like, oh it's real,
let's go woo.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Like.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
You need someone that reads the paper and has an analysis,
or take some classes so you could learn how to
do that yourself. Start with doctor Malina Abdullah's class. Okay,
we got I want to get your thought when we
come forward on these US citizens. There's at least one
in the Southland Suing that's been detained by ice, and
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you know how how it's impacting you guys out there
in Pasadena, Altadena. It's the protests aren't in the streets,
but the issues, boy, they rage on. I'm Dominic Dprema.
That's James Farr. You're listening to KBLA Talk fifteen eighty.
Yes you are. James Farr is here. I'm Dominic due Prima.
(30:35):
You're invited in at eight hundred and nine two fifteen eighty.
Do not forget. You can tap in on all the
socials at KBLA fifteen eighty. I'm at Dupremia Radio d
I P R I M A and then Radio James
is at James far Live on Everywhere. James's show, his
own show is every Saturday right after Black Lives Matter.
(30:56):
This is not a drill at ten am on Saturdays,
and it's really doing an excellent job of tracking what's
going on in Altadena, Pasadena. So you want to definitely
tap in if you can. So there's, uh, there's a
problem right now with these ice raates. There's many problems,
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but one of them is that they're scooping up some
US citizens and there's a group of US citizens and
one legal resident who are now suing the federal government
because they were arrested and detained. Five citizens one permanent
resident say they were detained because of racial profiling. They're
(31:39):
Latino surprise, surprise, their civil rights were violated. Now we
understand the Supreme Court. I understand the Supreme Court is
pondering whether or not to go ahead and grant ice
agents this broad authority to detain people just based on
they're playing with.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
The fourth Look. Yeah, yeah, no, I mean it's suing
as they should, right, I mean, that's where you have
to get the redress and take it to the court.
Not that we can trust the court, you know, with
what the president is doing in this administration is scaring people,
shocking people, you know, challenging the constitution. They don't care, right,
(32:23):
They're acting with impunity. This is the fascism that you
spoke about. Doctor Abdullah has spoken about, and many of
us spoken about this authoritarian type government. Yeah, but you know,
I mean it's an interesting space to be in because
and I'm just gonna sat speak straight as a black man. Right,
(32:45):
I'll be fifty two in two weeks.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
I just want to keep bringing up your birthday.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
You know what, I'm grateful. I am so grateful. I
am so but this lands into why that gratitude shows up.
But for the better part, you know, let's just say
since I was ten, you know, the talk, right when
you have to become aware of that. I've existed in
(33:12):
a space where I'm always concerned about the police. Yeah,
I always see the police, you know what I mean.
And so I've existed all of my life with that
level of awareness looking in the rear view mirror being
one time, you know, just all the different things that
come about. And so when I see this this concern,
(33:34):
which is right for people to be concerned, right, But
I mean, like, where was that energy when it comes
to anti blackness? Where's that energy when it comes to
seeing brothers curbed? You know?
Speaker 1 (33:49):
I mean, but to be fair, millions of people around
the world have marched about brothers being curbed, and exactly
what you're talking about.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
I don't want to conflate the pandemic and the murders
that we saw into driving that those incidents of state
violence and police being violence workers. Again, that's back in
my fifty two year existence, my father's existence, his father's existence.
So it's nothing new.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
So are you saying that you don't you don't feel
sympathetic for what folks are going through being racially profiled
and detained by ice because you don't think Latino community
has stood enough with black folks.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying I've lived my
entire life under that kind of condition, under that type
of environment, under that type of politics. So I feel
bad for anyone that has to experience that.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
Right, it is okay, I mean I heard that part.
I just I didn't get the butt. Where is the
butt going?
Speaker 2 (34:54):
The butt is? It ain't new? This is nothing new,
right that it's it's.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
New for these folks. I mean it's new. Actually it's
new in the sense of having masked men scooping people
up off the streets without even saying what agency they're from.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
Well, to me, it's new that white folks care and
have shown up in quite mass the way that they have, right,
in a way that our.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
Brothers so are you is your perception that we don't
have allies as black folks.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
We do have allies, right, We have sympathizers, We have
folks that show up conveniently. We have folks that you know,
when I see folks with saltwater sandals going down to
the No King's protests, like I mean, I think about
sisters like you and doctor Abdullah's sister Sheila and Baba like,
when I think of people who put their bodies on
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the line every day, this stuff is theater to me.
I don't like it.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
Okay, well, let's look at this guy, Javier Ramirez arrested
at his own business. Huh and then he said, look,
I have my passport. I was born in San Bernardino,
and they did not care. They still detained him for
four days. He's diabetic, he had no medicine. He was
very sick. He was telling them they wouldn't check his
(36:14):
blood sugar. I mean, I get that you've been living
under that, but this is a person who is a
US citizen. I am too, as are you, allegedly, and
all of I say that because my dad says, you know,
as black folks were not citizens, we might find it
until we get the rights of citizens, until we have
reparations and the rights of citizens. But anyway, yeah, so
(36:37):
you're saying that's that's not.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
New, so stopping frisk it's not. It's not. It's not
that I don't feel for how they are experiencing this,
But when I have white folks walking up to me
telling me how much worse things are going to be
under Trump, I'm like, when have they ever been better
like this reality that you just realize has been all
(37:03):
of my life.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
But to be fair, they've gotten their worse for black
folks too. It's but I mean worse than they were
under prior presidents Republican and Democrat. I mean because honestly,
this idea that when he said in DC the police
can do whatever they want and signed an order called police.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
People believe that they can do. Even the most liberal ones.
They they believe the police are there to keep you safe.
They signed on that.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
I understand what you're saying. Their their experience of police
other communities, particularly why T people, is that they see
them as protectors and helpers.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
Right most of their violence workers.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
It's definitely escalated when you have a president who says
the cops can do whatever they want. Who is going around?
Speaker 2 (37:55):
I disagree, and I'm speaking simply from the perspective of
a black.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
Man argue about I'm not going to argue with you
because I'm not a black man, so I can't speak
from that perspective, but I will argue from this perspective.
Before we y'all elected this guy, y'all, yeah, before y'all, y'all,
y'all present company, excluded, y'all, y'all our delegation, whoever did.
(38:25):
We had Trevor Kirk going to jail, Deputy Trevor Kirk
on his way to jail for up to ten years,
but the Trump administration swooped in and gave him a
post conviction plead agreement, and so he his stuff reduced
(38:45):
to misdemeanors. He can go back to being a cop.
That is a worse outcome that would not have happened
if we did not have this administration.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
That is one example, but there are many examples. At
least he is going to jail. There are many.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
Maybe we don't know that he's going to jail. We'll
see he's going.
Speaker 2 (39:06):
He's going. He's gonna do that to you.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
And the only reason that he will if he does,
is because a judge refused the Trump administration's next move,
which was to dismiss the conviction the judge. A judge
refused to do that, and so a judge held.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
The line, police been getting off of killing black people.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
Yeah, most of the time they do centries, but that
cop wouldn't have if it wasn't for this president. And
that cop is was the subject.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
Of a news so do we blame.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
That they're planning to use for every cop?
Speaker 2 (39:39):
Do we blame the other previous presidents were not for
police not being prosecuted?
Speaker 1 (39:47):
Yeah, convicted. I'm just telling you it's it's it is.
It is worse. The white folks are right about that.
It's worse just because they are just now noticing it.
I feel your pain on that, but it's definitely. Yeah,
we have fewer rights now than we did six months ago.
There's no question about that.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
Oh, Kang, there was another thing I wanted to talk
to you about, but we are not going to have time.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
I don't have time.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
Oh well, okay. It was that five journalists were killed
in an attack on a medical hospital.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
Now, why do you want to talk about that?
Speaker 1 (40:24):
We're journalists.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
I don't want to. I don't give nobody knows.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
Okay, good, I'm thought. I didn't bring it up, but
we got thirty seconds. Tell you want to use it?
Speaker 2 (40:38):
Chains you know what, Dominique. I invite people to check
out Conversation Live Altadena Rising every Saturday, ten am. We're
the show of record and we're chronicling for the nation.
I want to hear from people. I want to hear
what they want to know more about what's happening in
Altadena and around this recovery. And I want to say
(40:59):
on record at this program, on this station, is the
impetus for why I am on? Is that a nicer
way of saying farm? I don't like that farm thing?
It has plantation? Why I just say, I.
Speaker 1 (41:13):
Guess you're not a baseball fan.
Speaker 2 (41:15):
I'm a huge baseball fan, but I still don't like it.
Speaker 1 (41:18):
As a baseball farm team of plantation.
Speaker 2 (41:20):
Yes, make it make sense. It is all right, James Exploit.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
It's great to see you, absolutely and more on that
next show. Congrats on your new show. Looking forward to
the next episode. We've got Mindful Monday with Sahara Ali.
Let's get ourselves together people. That's next on KBLA Talk
fifteen to eighty
Okay, b La Talk fifteen eighty. Good morning, Happy Monday,
God bless I'm Dominique de Prima. The show. It's called
First Things First and my very first thing. Every single
day given thanksgiving, praises and asking for blessings from God,
asking for the blessings of the ancestors and the elders.
And let's go. This is Monday Strong. That's what we
(00:21):
got going on around here and the way we do
things the first day of your week. Hour one, we
look local, what's happening on the left coast side of town.
Our two we start off with Mindful Monday to get
ourselves in alignment with purpose and intention. Then we open
up the phone lines. We do national, international, and beyond,
(00:41):
and in the third hour we do a deep dive
with the hot topic. Well, it's the last Monday of
the month, so it's Black Marriage Monday, and we'll be
learning a thing or two about relationships from an expert
in the space. Those of us who are not married
and perhaps aspire to a future relationship, and those who are.
I want to keep it strong. Whether you got some
(01:02):
black love going or you are the Rainbow coalition, It's
all good. The principals apply. We still call it black
Marriage Monday. That's what we going on today as usual.
You're invited in every hour at eight hundred and nine
to oh fifteen eighty. Love your input, your feedback, even
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So eight hundred nine two oh fifteen eighty. You can
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rather robust, and you can watch because we're streaming live
each and every day. It is the last Monday of
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the month. The other thing that happens the last Monday
of the month is this guy named James Farr joins me.
He is a contributor to the LA Progressive, got his
own show on KBLA Now Conversation Live Altadena Rising. He's
a dad and the producer of film festivals and other
such things. James Far good.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Morning, Good morning, dominic. How you doing.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
I'm blessed, highly favored.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
How art thou you know what I'm here? I'm excited.
I'm also in that an unfamiliar space. My daughter left
to go to college last week, and.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
So yeah, that's a big thing.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Yeah, and it's really hidden.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Yeah, how's your wife holding up? Oh?
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Wife, he's great.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
So you're the one crying, is what you're saying.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Well, you know, my eyes sweat occasionally, especially for things
that I love dearly and am passionate about. But you know,
letting go, and you're first born, it's an adjustment.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
You have two, so you guys are not quite empty nesters.
In fact, it's going to be a minute because you
got a space between your.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
It's like refinancing your house. Right. So I got one
in college and one in elementary school, so we still
got to do middle school all over again and high
school in this whole other cycle.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
But well, congratulations, though, I mean, I feel like getting
them now, if they graduate college, that's even a bigger bonus.
But I feel like if we get them to college
into college, we have done a big part of our job.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Yeah, and I'm so excited. I mean, I'm a proud
We're proud HBCU parents. Now that Okay, she chose to
chose to be in a space and in proximity with community,
with folks that are like her and find her tribe
and I'm just I'm excited for her future, but that's
(03:38):
still my baby.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Girl, no doubt. Well, congrats to you and the family.
It is definitely back to school time. A lot of
my friends are, you know, paying tuition and taking their
kids somewhere that part, And I mean, look, you can
always go to community college, but for some reason, we
don't always look at that.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Well, I mean it was on the table. But she
had a very good education through the public school system
that prepared her for this next step. So we essentially
haven't paid tuition since she was in like pre K
and stuff like that, so you know, you put a
couple of dollars aside.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
And yeah, I mean that's smart. And the thing about
it is that's why a lot of people will move
out to the Pasadena Altadena area where you live, because
they are supposed to have great schools.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Yeah, Elementary, she went through a dual immersion program, so
she's literate and fluid and Mandarin. She went to Losa
Performing Arts High School over on cass LA's campus, which
has a very rigorous academic component to it. But this
next step takes her to the East.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Well, DMV, she'll be very well rounded and she's already
very employable, which is good. So a lot going on
as usual, and it's hot. LA Times had an article,
I guess the heat wave is supposedly ended yesterday, but
I'll believe it when I see it. Yeah, Oh is
(05:10):
it a heat wave out?
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Oh it's hot.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Yeah. I mean I know Inland Empire, but I just
don't think about I guess Pasadena, Altadena.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
The difference is because very dry heat, no wind.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Yeah. Well apparently, and a shout out to Andy. Andy
is holding it down for miles this week. We are
in good hands. But apparently the doctors in especially in
emergency rooms, are saying, and this is from the LA Times,
that we need to pay more attention to heat and
(05:45):
doctors need to be more educated about it, because not
only can you have heat stroke, heat exhaustion, or there's
another one. I don't know, there's three different heat diseases
that you get, but and heat stroke is the most
serious and people die from it. Not only that, but
people that already have existing conditions are more likely to
(06:05):
kick the bucket from in extreme heat. So that means
what they're saying is a lot of times doctors don't
even attribute it to the high temperatures. They just think, oh,
they died from diabetes, asthma, whatever it might be, when
in fact it's the heat putting pressure on the body
which activates that disease.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
I mean, that's why it's important. You know you're gonna
do activities, try to do them early in the day.
You know that hours between two three is when the
sun is at its highest peak. And so I even
felt the last couple of days and my dog went
crazy because I wasn't walking him as much, because it's
like your body heats up and you can't cool down right.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Well, Plus, you know, the doggies can burn their paws,
that's what I heard. So you can either have to
get them doggy shoes or don't walk them.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Or you get up at six, Get up the crack
of Don and do that.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Six is not the crack of Don James, the crack
for most people except for you, because I think three
is the crack of dog. Yeah. Well, shoot, at least
I'm not doing front page anymore when I have to
be at work at four fifteen.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Yeah, I mean, you're up, you're early riser.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
I'm living that good life now. I don't have to
be here till five point fifty nine and thirty seconds. Look,
you're invited in every hour eight hundred and nine two
oh fifteen eighty, eight hundred nine to fifteen eighty, but
it is true, like we got to check on our neighbors,
especially those that are older adults. If you know, if
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power goes out and you have a generator, think about it.
If you can't get your insulin in the fridge or right,
you can't cool down because it's been hot at night.
So if you're like me and you don't have air
conditioning in your house, well, one.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Of the things we've learned just coming through this latest
disaster and everything is like I have a power source now,
right back up, backup, power source. It's charged, ready to go.
You know, it can get us through a few hours.
It's not a long term solution or our generator, but
at least in the immediacy if we lose power, I
have something that we can plug into, get our phones
(08:18):
plugged up. Maybe a fan or yeah, you know, space heater.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
That's smart. It is. It's kind of feel extra scary.
I mean, I know it's not windy this time, but
all these fire advisories and heat warnings. Living out there
in Pasadena's got to feel extra scary.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
You know, it's different. It's different because there's a certain awareness,
you know, seven and a half months out, but you know,
this is Southern California. Fires is nothing new. It's you know,
as Mayor Bass told me, there is no fire season anymore, right, It's.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Just it's always fire.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
It's always fire season.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Yeah, so it shows you don't feel traumatized by it.
You just look at it as a condition of living
around here.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
No, I don't feel traumatized because my proximity to when
the fire hit and what I had to deal with
is far different than those who had flames one hundred
yards from their door, right, So I could see that
being a little bit different. I'm traumatized by seeing southern
California Edison power lines, which are the causation of the fire,
which is in my neighborhood, which is in my backyard.
(09:28):
That's triggering every day, Yeah, I can imagine.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Well. And of course, the La Times, amazingly considering the
direction they've taken, points out that a lot of the
areas that are hottest and hardest hit are lower income
areas where they don't let us have the tree canopy
for some reason. Places like skid row where if you're
stuck outside, you're going to be hot all day and
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if it doesn't cool down, you're gonna be hot all night.
So it's a health equity issue, a racial justice issue
in hopefully the doctors are starting to look and see,
you know what, this climate emergency has health impacts. So
when it gets crazy hot like this, we need to
take that into account when folks show up in the er,
because it's a real thing. People die from heat every
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single day, and you're right, Andy, we gotta hydrate even
more than usual. James Farres here, I'm Dominique Diaprima. Andy's here.
You're invited in eight hundred and nine to fifteen eighty.
We're unapologetically progressive. KBLA Talk fifteen eighty. Right now we're
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Speaker 2 (10:40):
Credit.
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Speaker 2 (10:51):
Saturdays? Is going? We're about twenty four episodes and coming.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Up on t and how did that? How did that
show come to be? That's what I'm talking about. I
want my credit. Twenty episodes in is good, James, you're
a radio vetter in then twenty.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Three you know what? Almost I'm on my way. No.
First of all, of course, you know you plant the
seeds by and water at the seed here. The event
created the need for the show. And you know, I
believe you and Tavis kind of huddled up and next
thing I know it was that.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Is exactly right, me and Tavis huddled up here.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Here's a microphone like sixteen days later.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Yeah, well, God is good. But I mean, obviously it's
Tavis's show. He decides who gets a show and who
doesn't get a show. He has this is his baby.
But we are the freaking farm team, and I want
my credit. You got it. Some of the best shows
on KBLA, some of the best hosts come out of
this room, and James is one of them. So if
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you haven't heard his show, I'll to do you and Rise,
I mean Conversation Live Altadena Rising. It's Saturdays at ten.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
You know, because if you can do time with Dominique.
You can prove your.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Crib mea river if you want to do a if
you want to be on a super Bowl team, you
got to do a Super Bowl workout. And that's what
it is.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
I'm with you, I'm right there with you know. But
the show is going great through response is great. I'm
hearing from listeners across the world. You know, people across
the country. You know, I providing the space for people
locally to you know, talk about what's going on. You know,
there's a bit of a story arc that we're trying
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to follow, but it's you know, I think it's important
for people to to know externally you think people are
just rebuilding, right, Yeah, well it's it's not what people
think about. One hundred and fifty permits have been issue.
I only know two black families who have actually put
a shovel in the ground, and so there are a
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lot of financial gains black families. Wow, that's true.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Sad, but not surprised.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
And you can hear the Emerson family this Saturday, who
is one of those families that have broken ground. I
had to rebuild them to rebuild. I had the privilege
of being at their groundbreaking ceremony last week. Nice, but
it's it's it's a difficult thing for a lot of people.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Yeah, well, I'm glad you're there tracking it because you've
got that big virgo energy, which means you're thorough, you know,
and we'll we'll know, like we'll know we're getting in
accurate tracking of what's happening. So thank you for that.
Molly Bell says, Dominique brought James Farr to us prior
to the fires. Now he has his own show and
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we know him even more intimately. Love to y'all. Nice
Molly Bell, Thank.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
You, Miss Molly Bell always hugs and and love and support.
And you know my Bell is a real one. No,
for sure, I'm a fan.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Terry Terror, well you should be, Terry. Terry says, you
look conservative. You don't look progressive.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
What does conservative look like?
Speaker 1 (14:14):
It could be that little you know, paper boy cap
and the glasses.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
I mean, you know, doctor West had a whole different
take on that. So Terry, you have to listen to this.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
He said, you don't look conservative.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
He said something much more flattering and complimentary of my aesthetic.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Right, That's that's how he's always.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
So it's just gratuitous.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
I'm not saying it's gratuitous. I'm just saying that's doctor West.
He always has something kind to say about everybody. Okay,
unless your name is dj T.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
I'm gonna sit right now. I'm a sit in the
space that I had with him. But now, brother Terry,
I think I self identify as a husband, a father,
and a black man, because a black man is what
you see.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
First, you self identify. I mean, yeah, okay, you're confusing
me right now. How not self identify as a father
when you go home and the kids are going down?
Because because some fathers like I don't identify as a father,
leave me alone.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Because some fathers are part time, some fathers are no time,
and and some you know, and those things. So that
label of you know, I look like a conservative and
not a or not a progressive. I don't even know
what that means.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Right well, he's got his Dina Love, Dina l a Love.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
I don't think you can get any more progressive.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Maybe you need some locks or something.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Some locks. I don't think you need to change my
name or something called James Love.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
You know, yes, now that's too throwback you need anyway.
But Jacqueline Anderson says love Alta, Dina rising, I'm on
Saturday Mornings, and Courtney says month of the Virgo man,
brother far you win always.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
That's right. It is Virgo season. That's how you were
supposed to start the show off.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Was it your dog on birthday?
Speaker 2 (16:08):
It's coming up?
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Is it your birthday today?
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Though no, I said acknowledged Virgo season. I didn't say
acknowledge my birthday.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
I'm saying that it's Michael Jackson's birthday this week, so
we know it's Virgo season. Friday is MJ's birthday.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
You know, I think the greatest Mind? When is your
picular September seventh, the greatest Mind?
Speaker 1 (16:30):
No way? Did I know that already?
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Probably, but you know it's a small, small detail.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Yeah, I have it on my calendar. I know that.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
That's fine. I mean, you haven't forgotten that the greatest.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Mind that's birthday it is.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
That's doctor west Father's birthday. I mean, there are a
lot of great virgos, and I.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Think the great birthday.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Around here are all virgos.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
Okay, well, I'm not taking up that fight. I know
you're trying to pick a fight with me. God bless y'all.
Y'all do things the way you do things, and we're
grateful for it, yes, and we want to leave that
right there with care. Care is one way to describe it.
So a lot of Altadena Pasadena people got mad because
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Kenya Barris, who's a big TV guy he created Blackish
and other hits, has teamed up with Mike Epps to
do a sitcom, a comedy show that was meant to
be based in Altadena Pasadena, and a lot of people
were angry, saying, you can't laugh at our pain. It's
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not fair, it's not right. I you know, maybe I
had a little more latitude toward them because I'm I'm
a Screen Actors Guild member. I've been on television shows,
and I know if they're talking about it now, it
won't be actually on TV for another six months to
a year. But you were one of those people that
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wasn't feeling it right, James, No.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
I mean initially, Jill Monroe, host of an RSVP here
on the station, reached out to.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Me our entertainment show, entertainment show. Another great host who
didn't start here, by the way, in this room.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
How'd you miss that? Anyway? She reached out to me
for kind of my thoughts and whatnot, and you know,
my initial reaction was, it's not there's nothing funny happening
right now. I love both Mike Epps and Kenya Burrs Bars.
I love their brand of comedy, but I think in
this moment, people are still trying to put their lives together.
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And while I get the laughter can be healing, there's
nothing funny Domini.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
But it's first of all, it wouldn't be out until
another year from now probably.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
And people still won't be home.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
Yeah, and that's true. And second of all, the premise
is where the comedy comes from. They're not going ha
ha people lost their home. It's because these two brothers
are forced to move in with each other because one
is displaced by the fires and their interaction. I mean,
sitcoms are situational, right, so it's the situation, not Altadena. Well,
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apparently they've changed the location they're keeping the show, but
it will no longer be based in Altadena.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
You know, I think the people spoke. I think they listened.
I want to believe that they didn't intend to announce
that or that was a very low budget focus group.
They really took the temperature of how the audience would respond.
The backlash was immediate. What I didn't know prior to
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had never heard that Kenya was from Altadena. I've never
heard that prior to the announcement.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
That change how you feel about it?
Speaker 2 (19:47):
It absolutely changes how I feel about it. I mean,
because who has the right to tell a story? Right?
People could argue, why are you talking about it? Why
am I talking about it? Why is everybody else talking
about it? Yeah? I mean, but still it.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
It's and I talk about it because it's my job.
But you're right, it does. I think it makes a difference.
But I also think that it could have been a
missed opportunity because it continues to bring the conversation to Altadena.
You know what I mean, when it's out of the headlines,
when it's no longer a hot topic, having.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Well, it's hot every Saturday at ten am, it's in
the Conversation Live.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
You have a very popular show. But you know, Mike
Epps is a huge starr. Bearis is a huge star.
I just I don't agree, but I would obviously defer
to those who are suffering through this. Sure, if y'all
don't want it, then yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
You know, I'm not qualified to talk about TV in
that kind. But it's not a tremaine. It wasn't going
to be a wire. I imagine it's going to be
as it would have been a sound stage.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
We've got news, traffick and sports. You know, the clock
will be continuing this conversation when we come forward on
Hey Bla Talk fifteen eighty. Indeed, thank you, I thank
you for waking up with me. James Farr is also here,
and you're invited in eight hundred and nine two oh
fifteen eighty. Eight hundred nine two oh fifteen eighty. That's
the number if you've got a thing to say about
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anything we're talking about or something else. Bottom line is
that sitcom is no longer going to be set in
Altadena Pasadena. I don't know where they're going to put it.
I don't know if that fixes the problem for residents
because the premise is still a fire and then they're displaced.
And does it fix the problem for you?
Speaker 2 (21:38):
I mean yes and no. Right again, with understanding that
Kenyan Barrus is from Altadena, it changes how I look
at it, and I think people the initial reaction, you know,
was kind of around the economy that's created, you know,
is money going back? Are they supporting in any way?
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We just got to keep it a buck, right, dominique.
If the contractors you're hiring, the people hauling the dirt,
everything else, there's a disaster economy happening period. There's also
disaster entertainment that comes out of this. You'll see documentaries,
you'll see movies. We've seen it. I mean right now,
Katrina twenty years. It's on every station and network. So
(22:23):
I don't think it's fair that people wanted to assign
that to them when others are doing other things. Now.
I think what Tiffany Hattish did a few weeks ago
with the gubernatorial candidate Mike Stephen Klubec was a political stunt.
Was casting people in a political video.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Okay, so for those who weren't following, because it's very
alta Dina.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Yes, a couple of weeks ago she did a grocery giveaway.
Gave away one hundred and fifty dollars worth of groceries
to people. Announced it, you know, next day type.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Thing, is it? Anybody who showed up could get the groceries.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
That's what it turned out to be. In fairness, to her.
She said, you know, she was addressing a food shortage
and being hungry, and I believe her heart was in
the right way. But when you pull do this event
on the exact seven month anniversary right in the community
where just around the corner folks lost their homes and everything,
the impact is going to land there. First they announced it,
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thousand so people lined up on the hottest day of
the year since the fire, right elders in line. Some
people didn't get it, weren't it.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
Some people didn't get food to.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Some people weren't able to get food, and then to
act as a surrogant. And that was the question I
raised on Conversation Live Altaden rioting, and is this charity
or surrogancy When you're walking around a gubernatorial candidate who
tells black folks don't steal, I'm paying for it. It
just landed real. He said that on her lives.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Oh my gosh. Well, actually that was good because he
exposed himself. But I mean, here's the thing. Are you
saying that that Tiffany Hatten shouldn't have done that, or
just that she shouldn't have brought that candidate.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
No, I think she should have done whatever her heart
told her to do right. I'm not telling her what
her heart or should be. It's just that we're seven
months after this fire. There's a different way to get
aid and relief to people that doesn't require them to
be cast in a campaign video as extras and they
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don't even know that they're in on it. That was
kind of the low part of it. Her heart was there,
She could have contacted other local organizations. People could have
picked up give cards in a much more decent way.
We're past having paper towels thrown at us.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Yeah, well, I mean I can see the critique. I
know from the charitable work that we do in Africa
when we go with people, is that there's an art
to giving stuff away too, you know what I mean.
And sometimes if you go in without having that expertise,
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particularly culturally competent to the specific area where you're doing
that work, you can cause more problems than you solve, right,
And I've seen that firsthand, you know, especially when people
just are enthusiastic and they want to help, and then
they they don't take into consideration all the all of
the conditions on the ground.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
I mean, I would invite anyone who wants to do
something on that level. And again, one hundred and fifty
dollars on thousand people. It's one hundred and fifty thousand dollars.
So we're not talking about a whole lot of money,
but it's a lot of money.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
That's a lot of money.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
I mean what I'm saying to a billionaire, that's not
a lot of money dominating.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Tiffany Hattison is not a billion.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Michael Klubec is a billionaire.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Oh, I got you.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Yeah, that's not a lot of money change for him,
less than a day's interest. Right, I would invite and
challenge anyone meet me at the local hardware store. Folks
need hammers, they need nails and he wood, they need drywall,
there are other needs. Right, Yes, there's a food shortage.
I'm with that, but it just didn't land well.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
I mean, and we know that Tiffany Hattish is doing
work in the food space. I mean, she's got a
grocery store that she's working on. This is a particular
issue of hers and from what I can tell, she's
trying to break the food desert here in South LA.
She was on the show talking about it. She's working
with black farmers and other Farmers. You know, I think
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it's great work that she's doing. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
That.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
You know, maybe she needs a political director to work
with her.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
I don't know if it is, because I remember.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
The trip to Israel, for example. She took a lot
of critique because she went there and she only got
the Israeli government side of the story. She didn't go
to Gaza, she didn't have Palestinian contacts, and again, her
heart was probably in the right place. But if she
had a political director, someone would say, hey, you know,
tiff maybe we should have more than one side of
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the story here. Hey, maybe we should have you know,
if we're getting this guy to underwrite this, maybe we
should do it a different way, not make a video
or give the stuff out in an air conditioned warehouse
so people don't have to stand outside who are eighty
years old or whatever.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Well, I think, and I don't know Tiffany, So this.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Isn't a judge.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
I don't know her.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
I mean, she's a kind person. I believe.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
I believe that her heart was in the very right place,
but I think she just wasn't politically astoope that particular era.
Altadena has an eighty percent voter turnout. That's black folks
voting right. And so when you look at Stephen Klubec,
billionaire who announced his campaign on election night, the night
of the results, who is really running this as a
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marketing campaign? It just landed with someone that may have
been naive about what the other.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
Implications marketing campaign meaning? What meaning that current all candidacies
marketing campaigns are marketing yourself.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
But disasters aren't supposed to be political theater.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
No, they're not.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
If you want to come help, help, be their help.
But the introduction the surrogency, I hope you show up
for us as governor. That's where the line got crossed.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Yeah, well I'm not going to argue with that. You
know to if I'm available. If you need a political director,
so is James. He might be better at it because anyway,
Jerry Anderson says in the Chat situation, comedies deal with
touchy subjects all the time. Ken you Barris did it
very well and Blackish and Grownish, Yes, delicate issue, but
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drives a good narrative. The rawness of the issue today
won't be the same a year from now. Some art
requires a long lead to be right on time.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Well, a whole neighborhood. Now, Tadina got mad at me
because to Jill, I said, I mean I believe they
would deliver intellectually humorous comedy right with some message through
and through.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
And keep the topic a lot. Well, okay, I like
talk radio.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
I like it.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
If you don't make some people mad on any given day,
you're not doing your job.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
I liked. I like their art, I like their brand.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Jerry says she doesn't need a political director, she just
needs a real friend.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Now, she just wasn't ready for this as.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
Long as her real friend is politically sophisticated. Yeah, she
probably has real friends, but they're like, oh it's real,
let's go woo.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Like.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
You need someone that reads the paper and has an analysis,
or take some classes so you could learn how to
do that yourself. Start with doctor Malina Abdullah's class. Okay,
we got I want to get your thought when we
come forward on these US citizens. There's at least one
in the Southland Suing that's been detained by ice, and
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you know how how it's impacting you guys out there
in Pasadena, Altadena. It's the protests aren't in the streets,
but the issues, boy, they rage on. I'm Dominic Dprema.
That's James Farr. You're listening to KBLA Talk fifteen eighty.
Yes you are. James Farr is here. I'm Dominic due Prima.
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You're invited in at eight hundred and nine two fifteen eighty.
Do not forget. You can tap in on all the
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is at James far Live on Everywhere. James's show, his
own show is every Saturday right after Black Lives Matter.
(30:56):
This is not a drill at ten am on Saturdays,
and it's really doing an excellent job of tracking what's
going on in Altadena, Pasadena. So you want to definitely
tap in if you can. So there's, uh, there's a
problem right now with these ice raates. There's many problems,
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but one of them is that they're scooping up some
US citizens and there's a group of US citizens and
one legal resident who are now suing the federal government
because they were arrested and detained. Five citizens one permanent
resident say they were detained because of racial profiling. They're
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Latino surprise, surprise, their civil rights were violated. Now we
understand the Supreme Court. I understand the Supreme Court is
pondering whether or not to go ahead and grant ice
agents this broad authority to detain people just based on
they're playing with.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
The fourth Look. Yeah, yeah, no, I mean it's suing
as they should, right, I mean, that's where you have
to get the redress and take it to the court.
Not that we can trust the court, you know, with
what the president is doing in this administration is scaring people,
shocking people, you know, challenging the constitution. They don't care, right,
(32:23):
They're acting with impunity. This is the fascism that you
spoke about. Doctor Abdullah has spoken about, and many of
us spoken about this authoritarian type government. Yeah, but you know,
I mean it's an interesting space to be in because
and I'm just gonna sat speak straight as a black man. Right,
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I'll be fifty two in two weeks.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
I just want to keep bringing up your birthday.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
You know what, I'm grateful. I am so grateful. I
am so but this lands into why that gratitude shows up.
But for the better part, you know, let's just say
since I was ten, you know, the talk, right when
you have to become aware of that. I've existed in
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a space where I'm always concerned about the police. Yeah,
I always see the police, you know what I mean.
And so I've existed all of my life with that
level of awareness looking in the rear view mirror being
one time, you know, just all the different things that
come about. And so when I see this this concern,
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which is right for people to be concerned, right, But
I mean, like, where was that energy when it comes
to anti blackness? Where's that energy when it comes to
seeing brothers curbed? You know?
Speaker 1 (33:49):
I mean, but to be fair, millions of people around
the world have marched about brothers being curbed, and exactly
what you're talking about.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
I don't want to conflate the pandemic and the murders
that we saw into driving that those incidents of state
violence and police being violence workers. Again, that's back in
my fifty two year existence, my father's existence, his father's existence.
So it's nothing new.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
So are you saying that you don't you don't feel
sympathetic for what folks are going through being racially profiled
and detained by ice because you don't think Latino community
has stood enough with black folks.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying I've lived my
entire life under that kind of condition, under that type
of environment, under that type of politics. So I feel
bad for anyone that has to experience that.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
Right, it is okay, I mean I heard that part.
I just I didn't get the butt. Where is the
butt going?
Speaker 2 (34:54):
The butt is? It ain't new? This is nothing new,
right that it's it's.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
New for these folks. I mean it's new. Actually it's
new in the sense of having masked men scooping people
up off the streets without even saying what agency they're from.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
Well, to me, it's new that white folks care and
have shown up in quite mass the way that they have, right,
in a way that our.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
Brothers so are you is your perception that we don't
have allies as black folks.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
We do have allies, right, We have sympathizers, We have
folks that show up conveniently. We have folks that you know,
when I see folks with saltwater sandals going down to
the No King's protests, like I mean, I think about
sisters like you and doctor Abdullah's sister Sheila and Baba like,
when I think of people who put their bodies on
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the line every day, this stuff is theater to me.
I don't like it.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
Okay, well, let's look at this guy, Javier Ramirez arrested
at his own business. Huh and then he said, look,
I have my passport. I was born in San Bernardino,
and they did not care. They still detained him for
four days. He's diabetic, he had no medicine. He was
very sick. He was telling them they wouldn't check his
(36:14):
blood sugar. I mean, I get that you've been living
under that, but this is a person who is a
US citizen. I am too, as are you, allegedly, and
all of I say that because my dad says, you know,
as black folks were not citizens, we might find it
until we get the rights of citizens, until we have
reparations and the rights of citizens. But anyway, yeah, so
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you're saying that's that's not.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
New, so stopping frisk it's not. It's not. It's not
that I don't feel for how they are experiencing this,
But when I have white folks walking up to me
telling me how much worse things are going to be
under Trump, I'm like, when have they ever been better
like this reality that you just realize has been all
(37:03):
of my life.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
But to be fair, they've gotten their worse for black
folks too. It's but I mean worse than they were
under prior presidents Republican and Democrat. I mean because honestly,
this idea that when he said in DC the police
can do whatever they want and signed an order called police.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
People believe that they can do. Even the most liberal ones.
They they believe the police are there to keep you safe.
They signed on that.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
I understand what you're saying. Their their experience of police
other communities, particularly why T people, is that they see
them as protectors and helpers.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
Right most of their violence workers.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
It's definitely escalated when you have a president who says
the cops can do whatever they want. Who is going around?
Speaker 2 (37:55):
I disagree, and I'm speaking simply from the perspective of
a black.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
Man argue about I'm not going to argue with you
because I'm not a black man, so I can't speak
from that perspective, but I will argue from this perspective.
Before we y'all elected this guy, y'all, yeah, before y'all, y'all,
y'all present company, excluded, y'all, y'all our delegation, whoever did.
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We had Trevor Kirk going to jail, Deputy Trevor Kirk
on his way to jail for up to ten years,
but the Trump administration swooped in and gave him a
post conviction plead agreement, and so he his stuff reduced
(38:45):
to misdemeanors. He can go back to being a cop.
That is a worse outcome that would not have happened
if we did not have this administration.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
That is one example, but there are many examples. At
least he is going to jail. There are many.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
Maybe we don't know that he's going to jail. We'll
see he's going.
Speaker 2 (39:06):
He's going. He's gonna do that to you.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
And the only reason that he will if he does,
is because a judge refused the Trump administration's next move,
which was to dismiss the conviction the judge. A judge
refused to do that, and so a judge held.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
The line, police been getting off of killing black people.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
Yeah, most of the time they do centries, but that
cop wouldn't have if it wasn't for this president. And
that cop is was the subject.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
Of a news so do we blame.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
That they're planning to use for every cop?
Speaker 2 (39:39):
Do we blame the other previous presidents were not for
police not being prosecuted?
Speaker 1 (39:47):
Yeah, convicted. I'm just telling you it's it's it is.
It is worse. The white folks are right about that.
It's worse just because they are just now noticing it.
I feel your pain on that, but it's definitely. Yeah,
we have fewer rights now than we did six months ago.
There's no question about that.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
Oh, Kang, there was another thing I wanted to talk
to you about, but we are not going to have time.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
I don't have time.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
Oh well, okay. It was that five journalists were killed
in an attack on a medical hospital.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
Now, why do you want to talk about that?
Speaker 1 (40:24):
We're journalists.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
I don't want to. I don't give nobody knows.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
Okay, good, I'm thought. I didn't bring it up, but
we got thirty seconds. Tell you want to use it?
Speaker 2 (40:38):
Chains you know what, Dominique. I invite people to check
out Conversation Live Altadena Rising every Saturday, ten am. We're
the show of record and we're chronicling for the nation.
I want to hear from people. I want to hear
what they want to know more about what's happening in
Altadena and around this recovery. And I want to say
(40:59):
on record at this program, on this station, is the
impetus for why I am on? Is that a nicer
way of saying farm? I don't like that farm thing?
It has plantation? Why I just say, I.
Speaker 1 (41:13):
Guess you're not a baseball fan.
Speaker 2 (41:15):
I'm a huge baseball fan, but I still don't like it.
Speaker 1 (41:18):
As a baseball farm team of plantation.
Speaker 2 (41:20):
Yes, make it make sense. It is all right, James Exploit.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
It's great to see you, absolutely and more on that
next show. Congrats on your new show. Looking forward to
the next episode. We've got Mindful Monday with Sahara Ali.
Let's get ourselves together people. That's next on KBLA Talk
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