December 17, 2025 • 41 mins
Dominique poses the question - has fascism got you scared? Is the MAGA agenda keeping you cowed? How are you handling fear, intimidation and loss of rights? We unbox the cycles of repressions from Reagan to now. ZWe are joined later in the hour by Sheila Hines the aunt of Wakiesha Wilson who was killed in [police custody at the LAPD Metro Detention Center in 2016. Ms. Hines shares the powerful win of the recent passage of Wakiesha's Law.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey b La Talk fifteen eighty Good morning, good morning,
and God bless I'm Dominique Taprima. The show is called
First Things First and my very first thing Today and
every day is given thanks to God, giving, thanksgiving, praises
and asking for blessings, asking for the blessings of the
ancestors and the elders. And let's go. We got a
lot to do and a lot to talk about. Okay, okay.
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help us understand and unbox all of the things on
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that will be a classic career conversation and I am
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So yeah, it's perfect time to call me, perfect time
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to hang out. There's a lot going on. Jaz Mechanic
was here and we were complaining or criticizing, critiquing, analyzing
when the mainstream media and how they just completely left
Black Lives Matter out of that press conference. And I
was thinking about it last night because I've had friends
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call me up and say, you know, you should you know,
distance yourself from those people. And the same thing with
our radio station. Wow, you guys have black Lives matter. Oh,
it was all good and danny when it was when
it was trendy in twenty twenty. But now that the
big orange ogre is scooping people up, kidnapping people off
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the streets, targeting people, it becomes more interesting to see interesting.
That's one of those words. Javisates that word, and so
it always makes me think about it when I say
what am I avoiding saying? When I say interesting? Everything
is interesting. It's revealing. Is the word that I want,
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the really specific word that I want. And I'm curious.
I know it's not a think tank Thursday, but we
think every day around here. I'm curious. Are you feeling scared?
Are you feeling like you need to zip your lip,
put your head under your pillow, leave the country, don't
speak out? Are you more careful about what you post
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on social media than you were before? Say, January twentieth,
twenty twenty five, I'm asking for a friend. No, I
just feel I see it with corporations, right, We've seen
them sort of cow towing and acquiescing to Oh no, no,
we don't do DEI, some of them renaming it, some
(05:04):
of them getting rid of it altogether, others actually going
a step further because clearly this is what they wanted
to do anyway, and this administration just gives them cover.
And then you see others standing up and fighting and saying, no,
we're not going to go along with your We're not
going to sign your pledge of fealty if it's a university,
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We're not going to fire everybody black and especially all
the black women, which is what DEI has become code for. Incredible. Actually,
I mean, if you look at the perfect example of
that is the extreme Court. I saw an objective analysis
which found that Katanji Brown Jackson is two to two
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and a half times more qualified than the other people
on the bench, but she'll always be targeted by people
like the Vice President JD. Vance as a DEI higher
even though she's more qualified certainly than a Cavanaugh right,
certainly than Amy Coney Barrett. And this analysis that I
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saw found that she was more qualified than any of
the other people on the bench. So DEI has become
the has become the code word for US, and folks
are offloading us. I had someone ask me the other day,
when are the government jobs coming back in DC? And
(06:36):
it you know, it's a combination of a really good
question and a really dumb question. Because theoretically, as the
courts go through and rule NOE that was illegal and
that was illegal, and that was illegal, those jobs should
come back. But if you've already dismantled the department, where
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are they coming back to? If you've already given people
payouts to sign away the rest of their rights to
a job, who's coming back? I'm sure there are plenty
that would but where will they go? And does this
administration even have the will, the desire, the plan, the
intention to make that happen. And my guess is no.
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My guess is those jobs probably aren't coming back in
the main. And so all of that I say to
say this, are you scared? Are you? I decided? And
I told you guys this that I'm going to be courageous.
And I was talking with another friend off the air.
(07:39):
They were talking about how one really popular New York
radio show went down in flames last week, was canceled,
I guess, so to speak, and how the particular host
of that show is now saying he's progressive, something we
hadn't heard, or at least I hadn't heard previously, and
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so it's a weird time. It's like the combination of, well,
I'll say this so I can look like I'm a
part of something, and on the other hand, I want
to hide under my couch or go live in Portugal
and wait three more years till this thing blows over.
But what I'm saying to you is that it's it
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will blow over. Trouble don't last always, but what's left
when you look up may not be what you think
is going to be there. Right. If he huffed and
he puffed and he blew the house down, guess what
the house is down. And so hiding under whatever rock
you're under, you're going to come out and you won't
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find what you thought you were protecting. So what are
we doing? Are we are we hiding and failing to
fight for the things that we think we're hiding to protect.
Are you scared? Eight hundred and nine two oh fifteen
eighty that's my question? Are you scared in this environment?
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And how are you handling it? I made the decision
and you guys heard me do it on the air
in real time. To be courageous, to choose courage every day,
even if I was feeling shaky about it, even when
I get threats, even when I get advice to be courageous,
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to be brave. And I know courage is contagious, So
I like to hang around other brave people, hoping it
will rub off on me, because I don't have the
desire to live in fear. That's just not the life
I want to live. I don't have the desire to
change my viewpoint or my moral compass because somebody, some
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masked man might snatch me off the streets, or some
immigration official might decide that, you know, my grandma came
great great great grandma came on a slave ship. They
might decide I have to be deported on a slave ship.
You know, we don't know, we don't know what's coming.
Or shut down, muzzled, fired, attacked. All of that is possible.
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But that's not how I want to live. And so
I've decided just to go on and do me and
go with this narrative. This is protected by the red,
the black, and the green, calling on the most high,
calling on my ancestors, calling on my community. And so
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I think the flood the zone. The arrest everybody is
meant to make us scared, is meant to make us hesitate,
more meek, perhaps meant to make us change the decisions
we would make in everyday life. Oh, I'm not going
to say that. I'm not going to go to that rally.
I won't stand with this person. Well, I just want
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to take your temperature. How are you dealing with this?
Let's go to Fahima calling us from Washington, d c
Ola Jambo, what's up?
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Pabaragani and ca Casa capasa Dominique.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
I had called in the other day when uh Jason
Chantic was because I wanted to talk about the issue
with the media. And there's a case everyone is hearing about,
you know, the stuff going on in Minnesota.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
We lost Fahima. I'm not sure what happened.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Bajamins, but no one has mentioned Amy Black who was charged, indicted,
convicted and it be waiting all sentencing. And this is
a white woman. All these content content creators, uh people
talking about the case, none of them mentioning this woman
(11:57):
who was the mastermind who recruited some of the people
who had restaurants to be part of the scheme. And
one of the things that that was the smoking gun
is that she had texted their company was like the mafia, you.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Know, And Okay, I'm Fahima, your your phone cut out
for a little bit, so we're not I'm not clear
what you're talking about. I'm sorry, Okay, I'm.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Sorry, I'm sorry. Can you hear me clearly?
Speaker 1 (12:21):
I hear you clearly. It sounded like someone was on
your call waiting, trying to click over or something.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
So I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
I just talking about Amy Block.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Amy, well, the mastermind behind the corruption in Minnesota. They're
blaming and saying, oh, well, the Somalis all a bunch
of scamming and there are people who don't even live
in Minnesota who are saying that the Somali community are
threatening us and they're they're taking things so that they're
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two percent of the population in Minnesota.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Are they eating the dogs and eating the.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
No, No, those were Haitian.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
I'm hitting Bahima.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
I know, I know, I know, I'm joking right along
with you. We are two percent of the population who
came in the nineteen eighties. So many of the folks
that are there are American citizens. And I remember during
the George Floyd protests. Many of them were right out
there with the other black people protesting and outrage. And
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then you all saw him ilhan Omar, who was a
co sponsor of the George Floyd policing bill, who was
a co sponsor of HR forty, every time they came up.
But there are people who are spreading misinformation online and
then they are idiots on TikTok who are listening to
this and making videos saying all kinds of outrageous things.
(13:49):
And I just am just appalled because none of these
people are mentioning Amy Block, who was the mastermind behind this,
and people just they're not You're just repeating whatever they're
being put out there.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Yeah, I don't you know what I think. I know
you spend time on Twitter x and I know that's
a really big topic over there, and the racism and
the white supremacists straight up like rhetoric right out of
Hitler's playbook is so common over there that I think,
(14:25):
you know, we get we get submerged in it. And
I don't know if that's the narrative. Do you think
that's a narrative nationally famous or is that like very online?
Speaker 2 (14:36):
But most of our people are trying to survive, taking
care of their families, are living their lives. But what
I'm saying is is that I'm concerned about content creators
who are deliberately spreading misinformation and disinformation. And to be
quite frank, if you think Twitter is dead, you don't
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want to see what I'm seeing on Tip.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
I mean, it's it is. It is a total cesspool.
But I will just say that there have been some
Somalis have been trolling online and saying that, you know,
Minnesota is the promised land God prophesies before. It's kind
of like making the analogy like Israel, right and so so, Man,
(15:23):
these people don't some of the folks aren't even intelligent
enough to realize that they're trolling. I mean, look at
some of the the posts, the videos that some younger
Somalians have made. They're trolling. I mean the first time
I saw this, I knew that it was a troll.
They were saying that Minnesota was promised to the Somalis
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and the scriptures and they're just making it, you know,
like the Israel and Jews in Israel.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
All Right, We're going to continue this conversation when we
come forward. It's Yeah, worldwide mess and misinformation, disinformation. That's
why we're here talking point Tuesday, KBLA Talk fifteen eighty,
Back to me, back to you at eight hundred and
nine to oh, fifteen eighty. Okay, Fahima is worried about
the Somali's all the distant misinformation, the trolling from that side,
the trolling from this side. Yes, it's worrisome.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
You know.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
I started off talking about are you afraid? Are you scared?
I was thinking this morning of how things went after
nine to eleven, when suddenly people were vilifying seeks, you know,
and anyone with brown skin that didn't look Latino. I
was thinking, yeah, I won't let you land. Don't worry.
Trust me, girl, I run my show every day. I
(16:39):
know what I'm doing. Okay. I know you're a radio host.
When you get radio hosts on the air, they try
to take over your show that they can't help it.
We can't help it. It's like an instinct. We see
a mic and we start guiding the ship. But yeah, no,
I'm definitely gonna let you land. But what I was
saying train of thought was that, yeah, we've seen these
(16:59):
these are cycles, right, their contraction and expansion and contraction
and expansion. Right now, we're in contraction, the taking away
of our rights, the vilifying right now of Somalians and
Latinos and Haitians, and it's it's stressful, it's very stressful.
But it's not going to last forever. That's that was
(17:22):
the point I was trying to make. Can we outlast it?
And yeah, so what do you make of that trolling Fahima?
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Well, well, I've wanted to also reference a case that's
a little closer to home in La County right now.
Mayor Beas is the mayor of Los Angeles, not La County.
There was a case where a woman over homelessness services
had a conflict of interest. She was clear and wrongdoing,
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and she resigned. When they put in an ethics committee,
someone put up a posed claim they had caring Bass
the mayor of Los Angeles and this woman claiming the
distance ongoing thing. And I'm just saying that I remember
hearing about the story, but I know La County is
not Los Angeles. So why on God's greet Earth, which
you put up their bath picture next to someone who
(18:13):
is on a homelessness service in La County unless you
are trying to spread misinformation and disinformation. And what I'm
finding is that people, sadly, whatever they hear, they're taking it,
believing it, reiterating it, and running with it. And it's
just really infuriating to see our people in this situation.
(18:37):
And I'm really more upset with those people that are deliberately,
deliberately misleading our people with propaganda. I don't really blame
the average person, because you know, people are living their
lives and they'll see something, they'll hear something, and they'll
give a response based upon what have they been presented with.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Yeah, that's right, but that's why we have to read
got to read papers, and especially when we see something
online or hear it online, we've got a double check it,
you know, triple check it. Consider the source Quamell from Guardina.
You have the mic Hi, good morning, Hello.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
Then hello dad, Hello dah. Yes, I'm seeing the circular
firing squad suddenly get reloaded and start busting. And it's
on our girl and and and and it is very serious.
(19:37):
It's on our girl, Jasmine Crocket out of nowhere, on
uh on the book face yesterday. I see posts h
you know, like oh like Jazmin Crockets a show for Israel.
Oh she did this, she did that. She you know,
supports genocide. She's genocide Jasmine. And I'm like, okay, where
(19:58):
this this came out of nowhere? Uh So I started
looking on Twitter and I see like a few things
about you know, certain bills she might have voted for
regarding uh funding them. And I'm sitting there thinking to myself,
you had all this time to get her out the
pay and and and it's short as she never ran
(20:20):
for sending in the first place. And this is the
you know, kind of like where we're better leftists than
you crowd, you know, the Brehonna Joy Gray coming off
kind of folks don't know. I'm sorry to be Andrey Gray,
but she kind of disgusted me with the whole act
with with with Harris back during the presidential campaign. And
(20:42):
you know, as I've been listening to all of all
of all of you on on this station and others
and doing my different reading, how is this never How
has this never been like the front and center thing
about Crockett And suddenly here we are, now, Oh, we're
he's just going hard. I mean not everybody, but we
were where we see some of these folks going far
(21:04):
into paint with it. Yeah when Israel? When when this
with Israel? And guys have even been the top story
most times this year. Yeah, this is yeah, this is
this one's brouting me out.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Well, I mean, and it's a familiar playbook. Look, there's
just about any lawmaker right now in Congress. You can
have a critique of their votes when it comes to
the the arming of Israel right or the defense budget.
But this is a familiar playbook that folks saw that
it worked really well with Kamala Harris, and I know
people were sincere in their you know, rejection of her
(21:39):
around that. But it's now, you know, a playbook take
down black popular black woman, And to be honest with you,
I know the origins of that. Well, we'll continue after News,
Traffic and Sports on KBLA Talk fifteen to eighty.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
So, I mean, I think there's Cuomela. I think there's
a wellest published now playbook for taking down black women.
I'm not saying we don't have accountability for our votes
or that we do not have to meet the same
standards of qualification that other people do. But I know
the origins of this takedown of Jasmine Crockett because I
saw this clip that came out I wanna say, about
(22:19):
a week and a half ago, maybe two weeks, right
after she announced her Senate bid where the man is
interviewing her. It's a clip from maybe ten years ago,
I don't know, seven years ago, something like that, or no,
about seven I don't know, a while ago, where he's
interviewing or asking her about her votes, you know, on
the defense spending. And she says, yes, she voted yes
(22:42):
to all the amendments, and then she says that it
was clipped. I didn't see the long clip. I saw
her responding to it, and she said it was taken
out of context, that she did vote for all the amendments,
and she goes on to say that she did so
because they contained aid for Gaza. You know, remember that
compromise where you know, they did throw in some some
(23:05):
humanitarian aid for Gaza, and they claimed it was only
defensive weapons for Israel, so they you know, that was
the origin of it that started going viral. I started
seeing all these different versions of it with the same
little clip and different folks speaking and saying she's a Zionist,
(23:25):
she's she you know, she's a shill for Israel. Da
da da da da. I believe that Jasmine Crockett is
a liberal. I don't. I wouldn't call her a progressive.
She's not a member of the squad. But if we
hold all of the congress, all of the congressional members
and all of the Senators, if that's our litmus test,
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then most of them would be gone. I mean, they'll
only be a handful that have one hundred percent clean
votes on defense spending, maybe not even a handful, right.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
And I'm I'm concerned that basically it's the Democrat hurt crew,
and and everybody should know I'm no Democrat, but the
Democrat hurt crew is kind of coming out. I Mean,
there's some there's some true that he's in it, but
generally it's the it's the folks that, uh just just
(24:22):
want to see Democrats feeling, not even like GOP reasons,
just oh, I'm just that mad at the Democrats, and
Democrats just just just just go just go away and
and never and never darkened door doorstep again because you
just break all the promises and all these things. We
don't trust you no more. And and I get to hurt,
but to the point where you're willing to, you know,
(24:43):
just just burn burn everything down because you want to
put democrat hurt first with no other alternative plan. That's
silly to me. And I see a guy I wanted
the group say, but dude, she says some stupid is
should go go this the Palestine. I'm like, Okay, what
does she say. I have to get to see a
(25:04):
post about it. I see another thing, uh, and and
I'll land. I land trust me on this one. I'll
see another thing regarding uh, some some remarks I guess
she was making about bringing in undocumented folks or just
bringing in folks to you know, work work, work, work,
the farms and things like that, and uh saying things like,
(25:26):
you know, like yeah, we meaning black folks, we done
kicking cotton. And I'm like, yah, yashavnillill me and her
about all this all along. If she if she was,
if she was that bad, get her out the paint
way before a city r.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
And to be honest with you, they they knew, they knew,
you know what they're talking about. I mean, they knew this,
They knew what her voting record was. And I think
I think you're right. I think it's more about people
trying to gate keep. I know that a lot of
the Dems did not want her to run for Senate.
(26:04):
Some of them were really mad about it. And you know,
I was reading this article in Oxios. They said they
quoted anonymous members of the House of Representatives saying that
she might win the primary, but she can't win the
general and it's a bad decision, and so that could
(26:25):
be part of it, the sour grapes. What I don't
get is that now that she's in, she's in. Alred
has already dropped out. And to your point about the
circular firing squad, she is. You know, she's running, she's in,
and she's already being targeted by Republicans in Texas in
a big way. They hate her. She's a symbol to them.
(26:49):
So it's much bigger than one race. She's like a
symbol of everything they hate about us. And so we
don't need this is the last time, you know, The
last thing she needs is a circular fire firing squad
a moment, but we are definitely having one.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
Yeah, And on my closing, no, Texas is Texas is
one of those places that basically vates for vote vote vates,
vote Republican out of identity, not because not because of
actual policies or anything that's going to uh you know,
promote promote growth and make things better for everybody. You know,
(27:26):
I said, a lot of these red states tend to
vote where you can you tell you know, it's clearly
out of just that's their identity. And like, oh, we
you know, if we vote, if we vote Democrats, that
goes against our our very being as huge as uh
as citizens of the state. So that that's one thing
(27:46):
I think folks need to keep in mind versus just
thinking like, oh, they're just all powerful over there. That's
not true. If if folks quit, you know, sitting on
the couch when we got it, when we got a
crocket and all shut up on this note, who has
who has that that name recognition? Who has that who
has that? Charge with folks who would sit on the couch?
(28:09):
Uh Yeah, I think I think it's worth giving a shot.
And we're really gonna have to start getting getting these
getting some of these uh one one one issue and
Democrat hurt people together.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
And I think, yeah, well, there there was also a
whole and I'm sure you've seen this. There's a rumor
that Republicans were pushing her into the race. They were
trying to give her a false sense that she could win,
and then waiting for her as soon as she declared.
And you saw that when Speaker Mike Johnson was literally
(28:42):
licking his chops at the prospects of her getting in
the race. I hope she mess around and win just
for that, if they think they're that slick. They said
that there was a behind the scenes move by Republicans
in this Senate to try to get her to get
into the race, and you know they have. They've got
(29:07):
a couple of state wide races there in Texas there
where they think they can flip Democratics. So they're worried
that Jasmine Crockett will mess up their momentum. And so
I guess she's taken a being from both sides. But
my thing is she could still win. I know it's
(29:28):
a long shot. It is the Senate, it is Texas,
but why are we piling on? Shouldn't we be coming
to help given that that would be a huge win
for Dems. I'm not saying put all your resources into it,
but certainly don't try to break her down. To Cuamell's point,
Quamell called me at eight hundred and nine to fifteen eighty,
(29:51):
you can do the same. I'm Dominique di Prima for
KBLA Talk fifteen eighty and I do have a special
guest here. She had to come through the fog and
the mountains and the scary outside weather that we're having
right now, but she made it to our studio.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
She is the.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Auntie of Wakisha Wilson. Wakisha Wilson, of course, died was
killed in LAPD custody at the Metropolitan Detention Center in
downtown LA. And we were just talking about the case
on Monday, me and jas Mechanic and Miss Sheila Hines,
who's the auntie of Jakisha Wilson, who has been fighting
(30:30):
steadily for a whole decade to try to get some
semblance of some kind of justice for her niece, called
and said, well, I want to set the record straight.
And here she is, Miss Sheila Hines.
Speaker 4 (30:43):
Good morning, good morning, good morning.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
Well, welcome in and congratulations to you. I know it
doesn't bring back your niece, but the passage of Wakeisha's Law,
which was carried by assembly Member Isaac Bryan in which
you and your sister who is Wakeisha's mom. I'm gonna
work tirelessly on along with Black Lives Matter grass roots.
I mean, it passed. It's the law of the land.
How do you feel. I feel.
Speaker 5 (31:11):
I feel good about it because it can't help Wakesha,
but it can help others. But you know, it's an
effect now.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
But you know, just.
Speaker 5 (31:31):
I don't want to see another person go through this.
And I hope you know it's there to be used,
but I hope no one has to use it.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Yeah, I know you're right about that, and you're right.
It won't help Wakeisha. It's not going to bring her back.
But at least you guys, you know, made something powerful
out of something tragic.
Speaker 5 (31:54):
Yes, yes, yes we did, and it's we did it
for the people. Yeah, we did it for the people.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
And uh I am uh honored. That is named after
you know, my niece, Jakisha Wilson.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
Wakisha's Law is the first law in the state of
California be named after a black woman. Yes, it is,
which you have to feel proud of that. I mean, yes, Wakeisha.
We say her name Wakisha Wilson, but now her name
is part of the law of the state.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
Of California, right, Yes it is, Yes, it is.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Well, that's no small thing. We were talking about that
on Monday. You don't just make state laws, it's not.
It has to go through the you know, the Assembly, Senate,
and then the governor has to sign it.
Speaker 5 (32:48):
Yes, yes, and do the Isaac Bryant, you know, he
made that happen. And Uh, Malina Abdullah, the arganize and
such a profound woman, the head of Black Lives Matter Grassroots. Uh,
(33:14):
she got the ball rolled me. She went to Isaac
and then Uh, Melina and Black Lives Matter Grassroots, the community,
everybody you know helped. You know, it's not one person
(33:37):
could do all this work, you know, taking troops to UH,
being with me and Lisa flying to Sacramento, Lena, his sister,
Sheila Bates and.
Speaker 4 (33:53):
The rest of the Black Lives Matter.
Speaker 5 (33:57):
UH members held it down while we were gone and
they continue to uplift Wakeisha name. And if it was
not for Black Lives Matter, if it was not for
Malina Abdullah, me and Lisa, this would not be possible. Yeah,
(34:21):
it's only due to Melina Abdullah. It's only due to
her hard work it's only due to her going to
is Ryan. Me and Lisa didn't go to him.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
Well, but you went and testified. And I know that
if doctor Abdullah was here, she would say, well that
the family never gave up. I know she would give
you guys the credit. But I'm glad that you acknowledge
Black lives matter grassroots because this is an important victory
for everyone. And I think, yes, I've seen the testimony
you know of you guys speaking before the lawmakers in Sacramento. Now,
(35:00):
they would have to be completely heartless to not be
moved by the things that you and your sister had
to say.
Speaker 5 (35:07):
Yes, yes, it was very emotional, it was very touching.
And Lisa she was amazing. I mean she, I mean
she did what she only know, she.
Speaker 4 (35:21):
Did what she said, what happened, and was she you know,
was she always.
Speaker 5 (35:33):
Say is that she hopes nobody ever had to go
through the loan four days of her life, you know, the.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
Four days between the time Wakisha Wilson was meant to
be in court and the time. Those four days were
the time she was looking before she got answers. Yes,
and of course Wakisha's law makes it to where they
have to notify the law enforcement has to notify the
families within twenty four hour hours if someone is killed
or if they go to the hospital, right.
Speaker 5 (36:04):
If they injured, if they moved to the hospital. Well,
unlike Watisha, she was moved to Uh, I said love
it uh sail an authorise right.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
So and by the time your sister called her, as
you shared with us before, they gave her the number
to the coroner's office and didn't tell her it was
the number to the Corners.
Speaker 4 (36:36):
No, they did not. And she was completely shot. Yeah,
she was completely shot.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
Who wouldn't be. So I know you guys are not
recovered because we've talked about your niece and how much
you miss her.
Speaker 5 (36:54):
Oh, I miss her so much. I think about her
every single day.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
I with this and remember the bracelet with the black
and white and lavender, and we're wearing our lavender justice
for really that's my favorite color too. I love lavender.
That's why you see me sporting. Aside from the fact
that I want to support your quest and I know
(37:19):
the next phase is to see, well, there's two things right.
One is to seek can we make this a national
federal law? Because I know congress Woman Sydney Komlager is
carry me.
Speaker 4 (37:32):
Right, I don't I don't know that if that would
be next or the what's the go ahead?
Speaker 1 (37:40):
And tell us the big.
Speaker 4 (37:42):
Thing, the name changing, the I don't want to say it.
I don't want to say the name.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
A sign somewhere for Wakesha Wilson. I know you guys
wanted a street or a square or a park or something.
And I saw you talking with a council member. Yes,
the yes, I was during the signing slash presser. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (38:04):
I was so dumbfounded. I didn't know that was her.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
Yeah, well, she's very young. She doesn't look like the
stereotype of accouncil when we're talking about eastthing else.
Speaker 4 (38:15):
Even when she got looked just speaking, I still didn't
know that was her.
Speaker 5 (38:19):
After and she came to me, she came up to
me and says, I think she said that was powerful
when I was speaking, and uh, I didn't.
Speaker 4 (38:31):
Think nothing of it.
Speaker 5 (38:31):
I said said thank you. Then she came back to
me and said, uh, she said, so, I can't remember.
She said, we're working.
Speaker 4 (38:45):
I think she said.
Speaker 5 (38:47):
I don't quote me, but I don't know if these
not these Zach words. But she said somewhere in the
line of uh, we're working on the name changing. We're
working on it. And I looked at her and I said,
(39:08):
I said it's a BI. I said it's I said
it's a bill, and I hugged her and I just
we looked at each other, and she said, it's gonna happen.
It's going to happen. And she said, uh, we're working
(39:29):
on it. We're working on it, but it's definitely gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
I know. And I happened to be right there witnessing
that conversation. It was a beautiful thing. But I love
that she she is on it. And this, of course
is the district that she represents as the district where
your niece was killed. Yes, she's the one that would
be able to make that happen.
Speaker 5 (39:50):
Right, because we know Kevin Delian wasn't gonna do it.
I got him out of the office, so.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
Well, I know. So I know you wanted to set
the record straight because the press decided to, well, at
least ABC seven decided to erase Black Lives Matter Grassroots
from the press conference altogether.
Speaker 4 (40:12):
Yes, and if they don't say it right, I'm a
boycott them.
Speaker 1 (40:17):
But what else, we just have a couple really half
a minute here. What else do you want people to
know or do I want.
Speaker 5 (40:28):
Everybody to know that. I want everybody to come out
next year in Watch twenty seventh and celebrate with us. Oh,
at the Metropolitan Detention Center.
Speaker 1 (40:43):
That doesn't sound very festive. March twenty seventh, Metro Detention Center. Yeah,
I'm sure you'll give us the details of what time. Yes,
So it sounds like you're gonna make sure that detention
center never forgets about one.
Speaker 4 (40:57):
March's right, that's right.
Speaker 5 (40:59):
When they come out, they have to face.
Speaker 4 (41:03):
Her, they have to face her.
Speaker 1 (41:06):
Well, thank you so much for sharing with us, and
if you get any inspirations, you can run back in uh,
Mischiella Hines. It's a pleasure, okay.
Speaker 4 (41:14):
And I just want to say again that.
Speaker 5 (41:20):
Channel seven undermined it black Lives Matter, you know, grassroots
and Molina a doulah. Of course you can see her
in the background, So why would he say Molina Abdullah
and black Lives matter grassroots?
Speaker 3 (41:42):
You know?
Speaker 1 (41:43):
Yeah, Well, I think we can speculate on that, but yeah,
I think we've got news, traffic, and sports, and we're
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So yeah, it's perfect time to call me, perfect time
(03:13):
to hang out. There's a lot going on. Jaz Mechanic
was here and we were complaining or criticizing, critiquing, analyzing
when the mainstream media and how they just completely left
Black Lives Matter out of that press conference. And I
was thinking about it last night because I've had friends
(03:36):
call me up and say, you know, you should you know,
distance yourself from those people. And the same thing with
our radio station. Wow, you guys have black Lives matter. Oh,
it was all good and danny when it was when
it was trendy in twenty twenty. But now that the
big orange ogre is scooping people up, kidnapping people off
(04:00):
the streets, targeting people, it becomes more interesting to see interesting.
That's one of those words. Javisates that word, and so
it always makes me think about it when I say
what am I avoiding saying? When I say interesting? Everything
is interesting. It's revealing. Is the word that I want,
(04:21):
the really specific word that I want. And I'm curious.
I know it's not a think tank Thursday, but we
think every day around here. I'm curious. Are you feeling scared?
Are you feeling like you need to zip your lip,
put your head under your pillow, leave the country, don't
speak out? Are you more careful about what you post
(04:42):
on social media than you were before? Say, January twentieth,
twenty twenty five, I'm asking for a friend. No, I
just feel I see it with corporations, right, We've seen
them sort of cow towing and acquiescing to Oh no, no,
we don't do DEI, some of them renaming it, some
(05:04):
of them getting rid of it altogether, others actually going
a step further because clearly this is what they wanted
to do anyway, and this administration just gives them cover.
And then you see others standing up and fighting and saying, no,
we're not going to go along with your We're not
going to sign your pledge of fealty if it's a university,
(05:26):
We're not going to fire everybody black and especially all
the black women, which is what DEI has become code for. Incredible. Actually,
I mean, if you look at the perfect example of
that is the extreme Court. I saw an objective analysis
which found that Katanji Brown Jackson is two to two
(05:47):
and a half times more qualified than the other people
on the bench, but she'll always be targeted by people
like the Vice President JD. Vance as a DEI higher
even though she's more qualified certainly than a Cavanaugh right,
certainly than Amy Coney Barrett. And this analysis that I
(06:12):
saw found that she was more qualified than any of
the other people on the bench. So DEI has become
the has become the code word for US, and folks
are offloading us. I had someone ask me the other day,
when are the government jobs coming back in DC? And
(06:36):
it you know, it's a combination of a really good
question and a really dumb question. Because theoretically, as the
courts go through and rule NOE that was illegal and
that was illegal, and that was illegal, those jobs should
come back. But if you've already dismantled the department, where
(06:57):
are they coming back to? If you've already given people
payouts to sign away the rest of their rights to
a job, who's coming back? I'm sure there are plenty
that would but where will they go? And does this
administration even have the will, the desire, the plan, the
intention to make that happen. And my guess is no.
(07:18):
My guess is those jobs probably aren't coming back in
the main. And so all of that I say to
say this, are you scared? Are you? I decided? And
I told you guys this that I'm going to be courageous.
And I was talking with another friend off the air.
(07:39):
They were talking about how one really popular New York
radio show went down in flames last week, was canceled,
I guess, so to speak, and how the particular host
of that show is now saying he's progressive, something we
hadn't heard, or at least I hadn't heard previously, and
(08:01):
so it's a weird time. It's like the combination of, well,
I'll say this so I can look like I'm a
part of something, and on the other hand, I want
to hide under my couch or go live in Portugal
and wait three more years till this thing blows over.
But what I'm saying to you is that it's it
(08:24):
will blow over. Trouble don't last always, but what's left
when you look up may not be what you think
is going to be there. Right. If he huffed and
he puffed and he blew the house down, guess what
the house is down. And so hiding under whatever rock
you're under, you're going to come out and you won't
(08:44):
find what you thought you were protecting. So what are
we doing? Are we are we hiding and failing to
fight for the things that we think we're hiding to protect.
Are you scared? Eight hundred and nine two oh fifteen
eighty that's my question? Are you scared in this environment?
(09:06):
And how are you handling it? I made the decision
and you guys heard me do it on the air
in real time. To be courageous, to choose courage every day,
even if I was feeling shaky about it, even when
I get threats, even when I get advice to be courageous,
(09:27):
to be brave. And I know courage is contagious, So
I like to hang around other brave people, hoping it
will rub off on me, because I don't have the
desire to live in fear. That's just not the life
I want to live. I don't have the desire to
change my viewpoint or my moral compass because somebody, some
(09:49):
masked man might snatch me off the streets, or some
immigration official might decide that, you know, my grandma came
great great great grandma came on a slave ship. They
might decide I have to be deported on a slave ship.
You know, we don't know, we don't know what's coming.
Or shut down, muzzled, fired, attacked. All of that is possible.
(10:18):
But that's not how I want to live. And so
I've decided just to go on and do me and
go with this narrative. This is protected by the red,
the black, and the green, calling on the most high,
calling on my ancestors, calling on my community. And so
(10:38):
I think the flood the zone. The arrest everybody is
meant to make us scared, is meant to make us hesitate,
more meek, perhaps meant to make us change the decisions
we would make in everyday life. Oh, I'm not going
to say that. I'm not going to go to that rally.
I won't stand with this person. Well, I just want
(11:04):
to take your temperature. How are you dealing with this?
Let's go to Fahima calling us from Washington, d c
Ola Jambo, what's up?
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Pabaragani and ca Casa capasa Dominique.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
I had called in the other day when uh Jason
Chantic was because I wanted to talk about the issue
with the media. And there's a case everyone is hearing about,
you know, the stuff going on in Minnesota.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
We lost Fahima. I'm not sure what happened.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Bajamins, but no one has mentioned Amy Black who was charged, indicted,
convicted and it be waiting all sentencing. And this is
a white woman. All these content content creators, uh people
talking about the case, none of them mentioning this woman
(11:57):
who was the mastermind who recruited some of the people
who had restaurants to be part of the scheme. And
one of the things that that was the smoking gun
is that she had texted their company was like the mafia, you.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Know, And Okay, I'm Fahima, your your phone cut out
for a little bit, so we're not I'm not clear
what you're talking about. I'm sorry, Okay, I'm.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Sorry, I'm sorry. Can you hear me clearly?
Speaker 1 (12:21):
I hear you clearly. It sounded like someone was on
your call waiting, trying to click over or something.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
So I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
I just talking about Amy Block.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Amy, well, the mastermind behind the corruption in Minnesota. They're
blaming and saying, oh, well, the Somalis all a bunch
of scamming and there are people who don't even live
in Minnesota who are saying that the Somali community are
threatening us and they're they're taking things so that they're
(12:53):
two percent of the population in Minnesota.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Are they eating the dogs and eating the.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
No, No, those were Haitian.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
I'm hitting Bahima.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
I know, I know, I know, I'm joking right along
with you. We are two percent of the population who
came in the nineteen eighties. So many of the folks
that are there are American citizens. And I remember during
the George Floyd protests. Many of them were right out
there with the other black people protesting and outrage. And
(13:27):
then you all saw him ilhan Omar, who was a
co sponsor of the George Floyd policing bill, who was
a co sponsor of HR forty, every time they came up.
But there are people who are spreading misinformation online and
then they are idiots on TikTok who are listening to
this and making videos saying all kinds of outrageous things.
(13:49):
And I just am just appalled because none of these
people are mentioning Amy Block, who was the mastermind behind this,
and people just they're not You're just repeating whatever they're
being put out there.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Yeah, I don't you know what I think. I know
you spend time on Twitter x and I know that's
a really big topic over there, and the racism and
the white supremacists straight up like rhetoric right out of
Hitler's playbook is so common over there that I think,
(14:25):
you know, we get we get submerged in it. And
I don't know if that's the narrative. Do you think
that's a narrative nationally famous or is that like very online?
Speaker 2 (14:36):
But most of our people are trying to survive, taking
care of their families, are living their lives. But what
I'm saying is is that I'm concerned about content creators
who are deliberately spreading misinformation and disinformation. And to be
quite frank, if you think Twitter is dead, you don't
(14:57):
want to see what I'm seeing on Tip.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
I mean, it's it is. It is a total cesspool.
But I will just say that there have been some
Somalis have been trolling online and saying that, you know,
Minnesota is the promised land God prophesies before. It's kind
of like making the analogy like Israel, right and so so, Man,
(15:23):
these people don't some of the folks aren't even intelligent
enough to realize that they're trolling. I mean, look at
some of the the posts, the videos that some younger
Somalians have made. They're trolling. I mean the first time
I saw this, I knew that it was a troll.
They were saying that Minnesota was promised to the Somalis
(15:47):
and the scriptures and they're just making it, you know,
like the Israel and Jews in Israel.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
All Right, We're going to continue this conversation when we
come forward. It's Yeah, worldwide mess and misinformation, disinformation. That's
why we're here talking point Tuesday, KBLA Talk fifteen eighty,
Back to me, back to you at eight hundred and
nine to oh, fifteen eighty. Okay, Fahima is worried about
the Somali's all the distant misinformation, the trolling from that side,
the trolling from this side. Yes, it's worrisome.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
You know.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
I started off talking about are you afraid? Are you scared?
I was thinking this morning of how things went after
nine to eleven, when suddenly people were vilifying seeks, you know,
and anyone with brown skin that didn't look Latino. I
was thinking, yeah, I won't let you land. Don't worry.
Trust me, girl, I run my show every day. I
(16:39):
know what I'm doing. Okay. I know you're a radio host.
When you get radio hosts on the air, they try
to take over your show that they can't help it.
We can't help it. It's like an instinct. We see
a mic and we start guiding the ship. But yeah, no,
I'm definitely gonna let you land. But what I was
saying train of thought was that, yeah, we've seen these
(16:59):
these are cycles, right, their contraction and expansion and contraction
and expansion. Right now, we're in contraction, the taking away
of our rights, the vilifying right now of Somalians and
Latinos and Haitians, and it's it's stressful, it's very stressful.
But it's not going to last forever. That's that was
(17:22):
the point I was trying to make. Can we outlast it?
And yeah, so what do you make of that trolling Fahima?
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Well, well, I've wanted to also reference a case that's
a little closer to home in La County right now.
Mayor Beas is the mayor of Los Angeles, not La County.
There was a case where a woman over homelessness services
had a conflict of interest. She was clear and wrongdoing,
(17:50):
and she resigned. When they put in an ethics committee,
someone put up a posed claim they had caring Bass
the mayor of Los Angeles and this woman claiming the
distance ongoing thing. And I'm just saying that I remember
hearing about the story, but I know La County is
not Los Angeles. So why on God's greet Earth, which
you put up their bath picture next to someone who
(18:13):
is on a homelessness service in La County unless you
are trying to spread misinformation and disinformation. And what I'm
finding is that people, sadly, whatever they hear, they're taking it,
believing it, reiterating it, and running with it. And it's
just really infuriating to see our people in this situation.
(18:37):
And I'm really more upset with those people that are deliberately,
deliberately misleading our people with propaganda. I don't really blame
the average person, because you know, people are living their
lives and they'll see something, they'll hear something, and they'll
give a response based upon what have they been presented with.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Yeah, that's right, but that's why we have to read
got to read papers, and especially when we see something
online or hear it online, we've got a double check it,
you know, triple check it. Consider the source Quamell from Guardina.
You have the mic Hi, good morning, Hello.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
Then hello dad, Hello dah. Yes, I'm seeing the circular
firing squad suddenly get reloaded and start busting. And it's
on our girl and and and and it is very serious.
(19:37):
It's on our girl, Jasmine Crocket out of nowhere, on
uh on the book face yesterday. I see posts h
you know, like oh like Jazmin Crockets a show for Israel.
Oh she did this, she did that. She you know,
supports genocide. She's genocide Jasmine. And I'm like, okay, where
(19:58):
this this came out of nowhere? Uh So I started
looking on Twitter and I see like a few things
about you know, certain bills she might have voted for
regarding uh funding them. And I'm sitting there thinking to myself,
you had all this time to get her out the
pay and and and it's short as she never ran
(20:20):
for sending in the first place. And this is the
you know, kind of like where we're better leftists than
you crowd, you know, the Brehonna Joy Gray coming off
kind of folks don't know. I'm sorry to be Andrey Gray,
but she kind of disgusted me with the whole act
with with with Harris back during the presidential campaign. And
(20:42):
you know, as I've been listening to all of all
of all of you on on this station and others
and doing my different reading, how is this never How
has this never been like the front and center thing
about Crockett And suddenly here we are, now, Oh, we're
he's just going hard. I mean not everybody, but we
were where we see some of these folks going far
(21:04):
into paint with it. Yeah when Israel? When when this
with Israel? And guys have even been the top story
most times this year. Yeah, this is yeah, this is
this one's brouting me out.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Well, I mean, and it's a familiar playbook. Look, there's
just about any lawmaker right now in Congress. You can
have a critique of their votes when it comes to
the the arming of Israel right or the defense budget.
But this is a familiar playbook that folks saw that
it worked really well with Kamala Harris, and I know
people were sincere in their you know, rejection of her
(21:39):
around that. But it's now, you know, a playbook take
down black popular black woman, And to be honest with you,
I know the origins of that. Well, we'll continue after News,
Traffic and Sports on KBLA Talk fifteen to eighty.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
So, I mean, I think there's Cuomela. I think there's
a wellest published now playbook for taking down black women.
I'm not saying we don't have accountability for our votes
or that we do not have to meet the same
standards of qualification that other people do. But I know
the origins of this takedown of Jasmine Crockett because I
saw this clip that came out I wanna say, about
(22:19):
a week and a half ago, maybe two weeks, right
after she announced her Senate bid where the man is
interviewing her. It's a clip from maybe ten years ago,
I don't know, seven years ago, something like that, or no,
about seven I don't know, a while ago, where he's
interviewing or asking her about her votes, you know, on
the defense spending. And she says, yes, she voted yes
(22:42):
to all the amendments, and then she says that it
was clipped. I didn't see the long clip. I saw
her responding to it, and she said it was taken
out of context, that she did vote for all the amendments,
and she goes on to say that she did so
because they contained aid for Gaza. You know, remember that
compromise where you know, they did throw in some some
(23:05):
humanitarian aid for Gaza, and they claimed it was only
defensive weapons for Israel, so they you know, that was
the origin of it that started going viral. I started
seeing all these different versions of it with the same
little clip and different folks speaking and saying she's a Zionist,
(23:25):
she's she you know, she's a shill for Israel. Da
da da da da. I believe that Jasmine Crockett is
a liberal. I don't. I wouldn't call her a progressive.
She's not a member of the squad. But if we
hold all of the congress, all of the congressional members
and all of the Senators, if that's our litmus test,
(23:49):
then most of them would be gone. I mean, they'll
only be a handful that have one hundred percent clean
votes on defense spending, maybe not even a handful, right.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
And I'm I'm concerned that basically it's the Democrat hurt crew,
and and everybody should know I'm no Democrat, but the
Democrat hurt crew is kind of coming out. I Mean,
there's some there's some true that he's in it, but
generally it's the it's the folks that, uh just just
(24:22):
want to see Democrats feeling, not even like GOP reasons,
just oh, I'm just that mad at the Democrats, and
Democrats just just just just go just go away and
and never and never darkened door doorstep again because you
just break all the promises and all these things. We
don't trust you no more. And and I get to hurt,
but to the point where you're willing to, you know,
(24:43):
just just burn burn everything down because you want to
put democrat hurt first with no other alternative plan. That's
silly to me. And I see a guy I wanted
the group say, but dude, she says some stupid is
should go go this the Palestine. I'm like, Okay, what
does she say. I have to get to see a
(25:04):
post about it. I see another thing, uh, and and
I'll land. I land trust me on this one. I'll
see another thing regarding uh, some some remarks I guess
she was making about bringing in undocumented folks or just
bringing in folks to you know, work work, work, work,
the farms and things like that, and uh saying things like,
(25:26):
you know, like yeah, we meaning black folks, we done
kicking cotton. And I'm like, yah, yashavnillill me and her
about all this all along. If she if she was,
if she was that bad, get her out the paint
way before a city r.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
And to be honest with you, they they knew, they knew,
you know what they're talking about. I mean, they knew this,
They knew what her voting record was. And I think
I think you're right. I think it's more about people
trying to gate keep. I know that a lot of
the Dems did not want her to run for Senate.
(26:04):
Some of them were really mad about it. And you know,
I was reading this article in Oxios. They said they
quoted anonymous members of the House of Representatives saying that
she might win the primary, but she can't win the
general and it's a bad decision, and so that could
(26:25):
be part of it, the sour grapes. What I don't
get is that now that she's in, she's in. Alred
has already dropped out. And to your point about the
circular firing squad, she is. You know, she's running, she's in,
and she's already being targeted by Republicans in Texas in
a big way. They hate her. She's a symbol to them.
(26:49):
So it's much bigger than one race. She's like a
symbol of everything they hate about us. And so we
don't need this is the last time, you know, The
last thing she needs is a circular fire firing squad
a moment, but we are definitely having one.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
Yeah, And on my closing, no, Texas is Texas is
one of those places that basically vates for vote vote vates,
vote Republican out of identity, not because not because of
actual policies or anything that's going to uh you know,
promote promote growth and make things better for everybody. You know,
(27:26):
I said, a lot of these red states tend to
vote where you can you tell you know, it's clearly
out of just that's their identity. And like, oh, we
you know, if we vote, if we vote Democrats, that
goes against our our very being as huge as uh
as citizens of the state. So that that's one thing
(27:46):
I think folks need to keep in mind versus just
thinking like, oh, they're just all powerful over there. That's
not true. If if folks quit, you know, sitting on
the couch when we got it, when we got a
crocket and all shut up on this note, who has
who has that that name recognition? Who has that who
has that? Charge with folks who would sit on the couch?
(28:09):
Uh Yeah, I think I think it's worth giving a shot.
And we're really gonna have to start getting getting these
getting some of these uh one one one issue and
Democrat hurt people together.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
And I think, yeah, well, there there was also a
whole and I'm sure you've seen this. There's a rumor
that Republicans were pushing her into the race. They were
trying to give her a false sense that she could win,
and then waiting for her as soon as she declared.
And you saw that when Speaker Mike Johnson was literally
(28:42):
licking his chops at the prospects of her getting in
the race. I hope she mess around and win just
for that, if they think they're that slick. They said
that there was a behind the scenes move by Republicans
in this Senate to try to get her to get
into the race, and you know they have. They've got
(29:07):
a couple of state wide races there in Texas there
where they think they can flip Democratics. So they're worried
that Jasmine Crockett will mess up their momentum. And so
I guess she's taken a being from both sides. But
my thing is she could still win. I know it's
(29:28):
a long shot. It is the Senate, it is Texas,
but why are we piling on? Shouldn't we be coming
to help given that that would be a huge win
for Dems. I'm not saying put all your resources into it,
but certainly don't try to break her down. To Cuamell's point,
Quamell called me at eight hundred and nine to fifteen eighty,
(29:51):
you can do the same. I'm Dominique di Prima for
KBLA Talk fifteen eighty and I do have a special
guest here. She had to come through the fog and
the mountains and the scary outside weather that we're having
right now, but she made it to our studio.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
She is the.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Auntie of Wakisha Wilson. Wakisha Wilson, of course, died was
killed in LAPD custody at the Metropolitan Detention Center in
downtown LA. And we were just talking about the case
on Monday, me and jas Mechanic and Miss Sheila Hines,
who's the auntie of Jakisha Wilson, who has been fighting
(30:30):
steadily for a whole decade to try to get some
semblance of some kind of justice for her niece, called
and said, well, I want to set the record straight.
And here she is, Miss Sheila Hines.
Speaker 4 (30:43):
Good morning, good morning, good morning.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
Well, welcome in and congratulations to you. I know it
doesn't bring back your niece, but the passage of Wakeisha's Law,
which was carried by assembly Member Isaac Bryan in which
you and your sister who is Wakeisha's mom. I'm gonna
work tirelessly on along with Black Lives Matter grass roots.
I mean, it passed. It's the law of the land.
How do you feel. I feel.
Speaker 5 (31:11):
I feel good about it because it can't help Wakesha,
but it can help others. But you know, it's an
effect now.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
But you know, just.
Speaker 5 (31:31):
I don't want to see another person go through this.
And I hope you know it's there to be used,
but I hope no one has to use it.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Yeah, I know you're right about that, and you're right.
It won't help Wakeisha. It's not going to bring her back.
But at least you guys, you know, made something powerful
out of something tragic.
Speaker 5 (31:54):
Yes, yes, yes we did, and it's we did it
for the people. Yeah, we did it for the people.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
And uh I am uh honored. That is named after
you know, my niece, Jakisha Wilson.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
Wakisha's Law is the first law in the state of
California be named after a black woman. Yes, it is,
which you have to feel proud of that. I mean, yes, Wakeisha.
We say her name Wakisha Wilson, but now her name
is part of the law of the state.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
Of California, right, Yes it is, Yes, it is.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Well, that's no small thing. We were talking about that
on Monday. You don't just make state laws, it's not.
It has to go through the you know, the Assembly, Senate,
and then the governor has to sign it.
Speaker 5 (32:48):
Yes, yes, and do the Isaac Bryant, you know, he
made that happen. And Uh, Malina Abdullah, the arganize and
such a profound woman, the head of Black Lives Matter Grassroots. Uh,
(33:14):
she got the ball rolled me. She went to Isaac
and then Uh, Melina and Black Lives Matter Grassroots, the community,
everybody you know helped. You know, it's not one person
(33:37):
could do all this work, you know, taking troops to UH,
being with me and Lisa flying to Sacramento, Lena, his sister,
Sheila Bates and.
Speaker 4 (33:53):
The rest of the Black Lives Matter.
Speaker 5 (33:57):
UH members held it down while we were gone and
they continue to uplift Wakeisha name. And if it was
not for Black Lives Matter, if it was not for
Malina Abdullah, me and Lisa, this would not be possible. Yeah,
(34:21):
it's only due to Melina Abdullah. It's only due to
her hard work it's only due to her going to
is Ryan. Me and Lisa didn't go to him.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
Well, but you went and testified. And I know that
if doctor Abdullah was here, she would say, well that
the family never gave up. I know she would give
you guys the credit. But I'm glad that you acknowledge
Black lives matter grassroots because this is an important victory
for everyone. And I think, yes, I've seen the testimony
you know of you guys speaking before the lawmakers in Sacramento. Now,
(35:00):
they would have to be completely heartless to not be
moved by the things that you and your sister had
to say.
Speaker 5 (35:07):
Yes, yes, it was very emotional, it was very touching.
And Lisa she was amazing. I mean she, I mean
she did what she only know, she.
Speaker 4 (35:21):
Did what she said, what happened, and was she you know,
was she always.
Speaker 5 (35:33):
Say is that she hopes nobody ever had to go
through the loan four days of her life, you know, the.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
Four days between the time Wakisha Wilson was meant to
be in court and the time. Those four days were
the time she was looking before she got answers. Yes,
and of course Wakisha's law makes it to where they
have to notify the law enforcement has to notify the
families within twenty four hour hours if someone is killed
or if they go to the hospital, right.
Speaker 5 (36:04):
If they injured, if they moved to the hospital. Well,
unlike Watisha, she was moved to Uh, I said love
it uh sail an authorise right.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
So and by the time your sister called her, as
you shared with us before, they gave her the number
to the coroner's office and didn't tell her it was
the number to the Corners.
Speaker 4 (36:36):
No, they did not. And she was completely shot. Yeah,
she was completely shot.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
Who wouldn't be. So I know you guys are not
recovered because we've talked about your niece and how much
you miss her.
Speaker 5 (36:54):
Oh, I miss her so much. I think about her
every single day.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
I with this and remember the bracelet with the black
and white and lavender, and we're wearing our lavender justice
for really that's my favorite color too. I love lavender.
That's why you see me sporting. Aside from the fact
that I want to support your quest and I know
(37:19):
the next phase is to see, well, there's two things right.
One is to seek can we make this a national
federal law? Because I know congress Woman Sydney Komlager is
carry me.
Speaker 4 (37:32):
Right, I don't I don't know that if that would
be next or the what's the go ahead?
Speaker 1 (37:40):
And tell us the big.
Speaker 4 (37:42):
Thing, the name changing, the I don't want to say it.
I don't want to say the name.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
A sign somewhere for Wakesha Wilson. I know you guys
wanted a street or a square or a park or something.
And I saw you talking with a council member. Yes,
the yes, I was during the signing slash presser. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (38:04):
I was so dumbfounded. I didn't know that was her.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
Yeah, well, she's very young. She doesn't look like the
stereotype of accouncil when we're talking about eastthing else.
Speaker 4 (38:15):
Even when she got looked just speaking, I still didn't
know that was her.
Speaker 5 (38:19):
After and she came to me, she came up to
me and says, I think she said that was powerful
when I was speaking, and uh, I didn't.
Speaker 4 (38:31):
Think nothing of it.
Speaker 5 (38:31):
I said said thank you. Then she came back to
me and said, uh, she said, so, I can't remember.
She said, we're working.
Speaker 4 (38:45):
I think she said.
Speaker 5 (38:47):
I don't quote me, but I don't know if these
not these Zach words. But she said somewhere in the
line of uh, we're working on the name changing. We're
working on it. And I looked at her and I said,
(39:08):
I said it's a BI. I said it's I said
it's a bill, and I hugged her and I just
we looked at each other, and she said, it's gonna happen.
It's going to happen. And she said, uh, we're working
(39:29):
on it. We're working on it, but it's definitely gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
I know. And I happened to be right there witnessing
that conversation. It was a beautiful thing. But I love
that she she is on it. And this, of course
is the district that she represents as the district where
your niece was killed. Yes, she's the one that would
be able to make that happen.
Speaker 5 (39:50):
Right, because we know Kevin Delian wasn't gonna do it.
I got him out of the office, so.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
Well, I know. So I know you wanted to set
the record straight because the press decided to, well, at
least ABC seven decided to erase Black Lives Matter Grassroots
from the press conference altogether.
Speaker 4 (40:12):
Yes, and if they don't say it right, I'm a
boycott them.
Speaker 1 (40:17):
But what else, we just have a couple really half
a minute here. What else do you want people to
know or do I want.
Speaker 5 (40:28):
Everybody to know that. I want everybody to come out
next year in Watch twenty seventh and celebrate with us. Oh,
at the Metropolitan Detention Center.
Speaker 1 (40:43):
That doesn't sound very festive. March twenty seventh, Metro Detention Center. Yeah,
I'm sure you'll give us the details of what time. Yes,
So it sounds like you're gonna make sure that detention
center never forgets about one.
Speaker 4 (40:57):
March's right, that's right.
Speaker 5 (40:59):
When they come out, they have to face.
Speaker 4 (41:03):
Her, they have to face her.
Speaker 1 (41:06):
Well, thank you so much for sharing with us, and
if you get any inspirations, you can run back in uh,
Mischiella Hines. It's a pleasure, okay.
Speaker 4 (41:14):
And I just want to say again that.
Speaker 5 (41:20):
Channel seven undermined it black Lives Matter, you know, grassroots
and Molina a doulah. Of course you can see her
in the background, So why would he say Molina Abdullah
and black Lives matter grassroots?
Speaker 3 (41:42):
You know?
Speaker 1 (41:43):
Yeah, Well, I think we can speculate on that, but yeah,
I think we've got news, traffic, and sports, and we're
going to be talking with doctor Gerald Horn. All that
is coming up on KBLA Talk fifteen eighty
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