December 17, 2025 • 42 mins
Happy Birthday to Ashra Kwesi - one of the premiere scholars of African/Black History in the world, Kwesi is a lecturer, author and leader of educational tours with his wife Merira Kwesi. On this podcast he explains the hidden origins of the symbols and stories of Christianity.
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Talk fifteen to eighty. And this morning you're not just
waking up with me. It is my honor to welcome
to the studio one of our premier scholars on African
and Black history. He is a lecturer, an author and
actually leads tours to Kemit the Motherland every single year
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with his wife Mary rah ashra Quazy. Welcome to KBLA.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Great honor to be here, Monique.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Yeah, it's great to have you. And I know you
come in town to you know, KBLA we just need
to see in a k those are silent, but I
know you come here. You know, every six months or so,
you travel all around the world and one of the
times that you typically come is the holiday season.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Oh yeah, yeah, well this is a very important time.
You know a lot of people are out there in
the frolicking of the holiday. I call it the celebration
of the multinational corporation celebration. Everybody's making money in the
multinational corporations, but little people are out there struggling trying
to buy those gifts. But when we look at this
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holiday find it's very important. As you mentioned many years,
forty three years now returning back to kemmy as we
referred to as it's referred.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
To a three years three Wow, I've been.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
It's like a whole time and space went so fast.
I can't believe.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
And you guys go twice a year, so that's close
to one hundred trips.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Yes, yes, and two trips in the summer.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Honored brothers and sisters love to travel with us. So
because of the popularity of the tour, we have to
do two tours. My wife and I, it's.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Funny to me because I know that you know, you're
all about the business of teaching people and helping us
understand what we're seeing when we go to Egypt to Kemmit,
and you've told me that you're a little bit like
a drill sergeant. But people can't get enough of it.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Well, yeah, I mean there's so much to do and
when you have a large group you have to be
a little drill. You take over one hundred and some people.
So wow again. But the people love it, love it
when they see that we're on time and things are organized.
In fact, our trip is very is known for being
very organized. Yes, we have to keep it that way.
We can't let one or two people turn out the
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whole trip, no doubt.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
So one of the things that you come for every
every holiday season is to talk about the African origins
in what we see the Christmas myths, the symbols and
the stories, and you're doing just that Tomorrow, Saturday the thirteenth,
at thirty seven to twenty five, Don Felipe drive in
La five o'clock doors open. Lecture starts at six and
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this is put on by Afropedia, our friend to beat.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
And yeah those university, is Bobby right with college?
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Yes? So why why is it so important to you
to talk about the historical beginnings of Christianity and what
are some of the things that we don't know?
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Well, well, first of all, he's you mentioned traveling to
Kimmitt for forty three years, and the monuments, of course
will blow your mind. But it's the reliefs are very
powerful and so powerful that we can see that what
we see in this holiday was literally many concepts were
literally plagiarized from the temples and tombs. We know that
the Greeks were the early Europeans who first came into Egypt,
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and then after them they became the Romans, and in
that process they built in Alexandria Library. That was during
the potatomic period of three hundred years Romans, another four
hundred years Byzantine Romans, you know, another four hundred something
over a thousand years studying this knowledge, and even though
many of the temples were plundered from the papyruses. In fact,
that the name paper gets its name by the way,
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from papyrus. Even though those temples were plundered in the libraries,
but they built that Alexander Library and studied for over
a thousand years. That's a very long time. So when
we see this holiday and many things in this winter solstice,
as Chemic referred to it as at this particular time
the birth of the sun. In fact, it was called
the rames the birth of the son, and it was
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during this time it was also called the commes Haru okay,
comes means the spiritual birth. In fact, this is how
Christmas in fact gets its name out of commes.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Okay, Christmas Commes.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Means the spiritual birth, commeth spiritual birth. So at this
time it was the spiritual birth of Haru. Now, all
this is around is we know about the birth of Jesus,
but that whole concept was literally plagiarized from the commas
Haru that means Haru was born at December the twenty fifth.
And we actually showed this to our group at the
temples at one temple called the temple of Dandara. They're
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dedicated to head Heru and she was called Murray by
the way, Okay, that means the love and being the
surrogate mother for her Ruin. And I know many people
do not know many of these concepts and stories, but
this Without ancient Egypt, what we know is the Christmas
holiday would not exist in terms of how we know it. Now.
We know about the idea of the star and the
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East to get the indication that Jesus was going to
be born in the three Magi three wise men, and
many of our people are just blown away when they
go to the Temple of Isis now called it, it
was called the Temple of us Set. In fact, it
was the last temple that was closed by the Byzantine Romans.
Why was this temple shut down? It was Theodosious and
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just standing in a fourth and sixte and three AD.
Literally not only did they chisel out the Madonna and
child of Isis okay, lactating her holy child Haru, who
was born of a holy birth in Maket conception, but
by closing this temple down, they knew that the world
would not know. And these temples were in fact covered
in sand for a thousand years. They were only dug
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out to make tourist dollars, but not to tell the
truth with many of the concepts that we see, so
we think of ideas. When I showed people at them
and measi house means the birth house. And you see
what is known as the Netta rus and Netta Ruse
would be like, uh, we would say it's angels today
or divine divinities, and they are shocked, three of them coming. Okay,
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giving adoration to the Holy childhood rule carved in stone.
And seeing that this predates Western version of Christianity. Now
when we go back and look at the Matthews, and
we go back and look at Matthews, okay, and the
story of Matthews, he's writing the story of the Holy
birth okay, and the magi and the star in the
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east to give the indication that Jesus was born on
Semar twenty fifth. He's writing at Alexandria, Egypt. Now this
is important because that library is there of these ancient
scrolls and papyruses that were stolen from these temples to
build the Alexandra Library. So Matthews, it's writing this story
based off of an ancient story created by African people
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thousands of years ago. Is always say that African people,
we are stolen people from the African continent. So an
intelligent question would ask what else has been stolen? And
even though we're caught up in the frenzy some of
us in this holiday, uh, trying to buy so many
things and so forth. And even though you see many
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ideas around the holiday, and of course many of the
people who are buying pine trees and cutting down the
forest and so forth, it gives us oxygen okay, that
we need. And but one has to ask why, okay,
why do we have that? Well, it's culture is very important.
Now when we look at the Romans, okay, when they
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were trying to convert the Germanic tribes okay, over into
the Western version I say, the Western version of Christianity,
because Christianity started in Egypt before the Western version of it, okay,
if we know it. But when they when the Romans
were going into Germania, the Germans, yeah, this is German,
it was called Germanian Romans.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Are trying to convert, are trying to convert the Germanians,
the Germans over to Christianity.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
But they were, but they had customs and things that
they did not want to give up. And some of
these customs was the pine tree. Now, why the pine
tree in Germany. Now you think of Germany and think
of winter, everything becomes barren. But that pine tree, I say,
referred to as the evergreen tree, and they bow down
and worshiped that tree because it represented Thor. By the
way Thursday is name, that's where Thursday gets its name.
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Friday was free of the mother, Saturday was Satanilia. Okay,
that goes back to the Romans who also worshiped Satanilia
that Santa is derived from. But back to this tree.
So they bow down and worship that tree. So the
question is why do we put gifts up under that tree,
that pine tree. We put gifts up under that tree
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because you got to bow down to that tree to
get your gift. And that goes back to Thor okay,
in the evergreen tree. Now, the Germans brought that tree
to America, Okay, in eighteen forty in Germantown, right, that's
where the Germans set up in German in Germantown now,
even though many black people live there now, but one
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time it was Germans, and that's when the the tree,
the pine tree, the Christmas tree, that's when it came
to America in eighteen forty and from that time out
it's a German culture all right, of the pine tree
bobbing down to that tree.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
So it sounds like if it's based on German culture,
it's more of what people would call a pagan tradition
or a indigenous tradition.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Well, he will, yeah, I mean it goes back. We'll see. Well,
for instance, we go to people say they go buy
the Bible, let's go buy it. Instead of going buy it,
let's go in it a little bit. There's some things
in there instead of you know, just looking at these things. Okay,
we want to look at it and see where the
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customs came from. So I go to Jeremiah, and Jeremiah
it clearly says, okay, because there's some things in there
we need to know, and there's some things in the
Bible we don't need to know, but we need to know.
When Jeremiah says, I do not take it away of
the heathen, where heathen is a German term, Okay, that
means heath dweller. Heath dweller is one who's uncivilized, and
they say they'll cut the tree out of for us,
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they'll deck it with silver and gold and so forth.
Now that's in the Bible. They're telling you that this
is the way of the he then, okay, as you
were just referred to as the pagans, what they would
do with this particular tree at this particular time, all right. Now,
this other character this in this holiday is Santa Okay,
Santa Claus as referred to s and and when a
child could get confused, you got Jesus on one side
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and Santa Claus on the other side. And you think
I'm gonna go with That's another culture that came from
the Romans of Satanilia during this time. They were called
this time Caesar's Christians, all right, because they were able
to celebrate Christianity and so forth, right along with Satanilia
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at this particular time. Now, the difference with Satanilly he
did not bring gifts. He ate his babies, all right.
And Greece he was called Cronus. Anyone can look up Cronus,
all right, and Cronus ate his babies. And it's a
very famous art, okay, Western art of Cronus eating his
baby and the blood is running. Now, I know this
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is some glory stuff, and I know this people may
be dejected by listening to this kind of thing in
such a joyous chime of the year, Halloween. But at
least we should think about some of the things that
we're practicing that we're in. So he's eating his babies,
and this is where that Santa Claus is derived from.
And keep in mind the candy cane when the elf
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okay that we see generally attached to the candy cane
is symbolic. It's a symbol. It's a subliberal message of
an old, old culture that came out of the Roman culture,
came out of the Greek culture. And now we see
Santa Claus eating his baby and the candy cane with
the red going down that candy cane is the blood
running down the baby. Anyone can look that up Cronus
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and see him eating the baby. And I know this
is rough because people might have their candy canes under
tree and have the tree and bottle and down to
the tree of thor and so forth. But at least
we can understand why these things are here and where
they actually came from. But even though we practiced this
in America, we can see the vilifying and demonizing of
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African images. For instance, we were to go to the Netherlands, okay,
and even to this day, there are black people in
the Netherlands, okay, and who are protesting against what they
call zester Pete. Now zester Pete is referred to as
black Peter. And right now in the Netherlands, they are
running around with this character of Santa Claus, okay, and
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he is Santa Claus servants in the Netherlands. Or these
are Europeans who blackface themselves. They blackface themselves and they
are these are referred to as Santa's servants, all right.
So sometimes to understand what we're in sometimes you have
to go outside of America. And going outside of America,
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we can see this practice going on. And one man
went back to the Netherlands and he was shocked the
how so many of the Dutch and were running up
to him and wanted to touch him and so forth. Okay,
he was a very melanated brother, but he didn't understand
that they were looking at him as Zetsir Pete, right,
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and Zetsir Pete was Santa's servants, all right, So the
question is what are we practicing over here when we
see that it's part of the European culture and so forth.
And these are some things for us to understand. You
know that even though we see the spirituality that came
up out of Africa thousands of years ago and converted
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over into Western version of Christianity, as I talked about
the temples and tombs of ancient Chemic validates that the
reliefs and why these temples were covered up, because when
we see the whole idea of what we know as
the winter solstice we're in right now, and I go
out in my backyard Dominique and look up to the
sky and see that star. It was referred to as
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Sebasipta that most people know of this series, that's the
Roman term for it. Greeks call it Sothus, and the
rising of that star told them the birth of the
sun and an ancient kymt this is where Haru became
personification of the sun. Later on Western version of uh
when development of Christianity, Jesus becomes the personification of the sun.
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At this time, when we look at the old tide,
why do they always have the sun behind their head.
All right. When you look at the virgant virgo, Okay,
she's got the sun behind her head, because that's the
virgin during the time of the As we go into
the autumn, it's getting darker, isn't it getting darker? Now?
As getting darker, that's symbolic of that. We see the
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birth of the sun. And it was always personified as
an ancient kymt, the birth of Haru. And when the
Byzantine Romans who were in Egypt for four hundred years,
they plagiarized that idea and attached it to Christianity. That
came up out of ancient spiritual consciousness thousands of years ago.
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So when we look at the ul tide, you're looking
at a cosmological event in European images, all right. So
you look at the magi known as the Three Wise Men,
all right, those are the three stars in the constellation
of Orion. Anyone can see Orion's constellation, those three stars
point directly to that star during the time of the
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birth of the sun, cisely at December the twenty fifth.
So many people are shocked to hear these stories. And
when we go to another temple, was that said the
temple known as Headow, and she was known as love. Okay,
and her name was called Murray. All right, that was
a symbol for love. That's the ancient name in Kimmic,
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that was called Murray. And the most ancient language of
ancient Kemic called the meddu neture, the most hieroglyphics. Right,
I was about to say what you just said. The
Greek referred to this hieroglyphics. And here it's a symbol
like an a turned sideways in two feathers Murray. Now
the Conference of Ephesus, Okay, in four to thirty one
a d. This is where a set was the Africanized
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and at these various ecumenical conferences where they started to
formulate these different concepts into the making of the Western
version of Christianity. And fact, even in Webster's Dictionary it
would even tell you that the virgin birth was at
four thirty one. This is where they did this at
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this particular conference is the Conference of Ephesus. The first
conference was called the Conference of Nisine in three twenty
five AD, and that conference was the formulation of the
Western version of what you know as Western version of Christianity,
where many things were plagiarized and I even have a
picture of one of the people that they had to
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go along with this was named Sylvester the first I
called him to Clarence Thomas of his day.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
We're going about to go into news, traffic in sports
right here, and then we'll keep this conversation going on
the other side. But one of the questions that you know,
I like to look at and maybe I probably I've
asked you this before, we've talked over the years. But
if I'm a Christian, am I to make of this
that you know, Christianity itself has its origins in ancient
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chemic or is this a debunking of Christianity or is
it a new understanding of the origins? Or is it
a debunking of certain aspects? And it you know, great question,
you know, so we'll look at that AFTERNOWS Traffic and sports.
The iconic historian ashra Quasi is here today. Tomorrow is
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his lecture in La on Don Felippe Drive, and that's
why Afropedia we'll give you more on that. How to
go let me come forward on KBLA talk fifteen eighty
and today it's scholarly is Ashra quasi he is here
in la He's here in the studio with me and
you can go see him lecture. I just put it
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on my stories on Instagram, but it's also on your Facebook,
which is Kemit new right, kim yes, k e t
it means.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Black people, kimit news translation black people.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Okay, it means black people. In the medju the hieroglyphics,
Kwmela is complaining that they're serving the YouTube commercials are
serving him up a black Jesus, a white Jesus while
he's trying to listen to you. So the question I
opposed to you, like, as a Christian, what are what
are people to make of this? What do we make
of this? Is it? Does it mean that Christianity, the
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real Christianity has its roots in ancient Egypt? Does it
mean that you know some of these symbols shouldn't be
connected with Christianity? Or how how do you see it?
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Well, as you heard me talk, I said, the Western
version of Christianity, Uh, the African people, we are very
spiritual people. The foundation, as I refer to the now
as the Philopian Tube, that four thousand, protety two hundred miles.
Why the Philopian Tube not only to give birth to humanity,
it gave birth to spirituality. It became religion today. And
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so when we look at Christianity, if we're going to
be a Christian, then research Christianity. It started in Egypt,
all right, the ideas, the spiritual ideas. Now, let's look
at the early Christians known as the Gnostics. They were
known as the knowers of the spiritual truth. Why did
the Romans who not only persecute and exterminate all of them?
In fact, those of us who are know the history
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of Christianity about Cyprian. Cyprian was a African Gnostic, why
did they cut off his head to start the persecution
of North African Christians. When we look at the early
Christian fathers of Totillian Saint Augustine, they're from North Africa.
So they understood the spiritual concert of the cop that
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I said talked about earlier. Okay, that the Gnostics called
the Caress all right, and the Romans converted to Christ
all right, that means spiritual as we're going through this
right now, Okay, this is referred to as Christmas. It
came out of cob mess spiritual birth. So when the
Romans were exterminating these early African gnostics okay, the earliest
spiritual idea of Christianity. They were like the conduit, so
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to say, of ancient spiritual ideas that came out of
Chemic that was developed thousands of years. But when the
Romans were coming in, there was a new world order
through Constantine. And through Constantine he wanted the whole Western
version of all of this, okay, to be put in
a European world. And that came through their ecumenical conferences
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that I referred to as the Conference of Nicsene and
three twenty five AD, as I referred to as religious gangsters.
They got together to formulate the Western version. And through
that Western version, this is where we got caught into
the images and representation of Christianity. Is peace to be
upon him that doctor Clark would say, the colonization of
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the afterlife, because the images and representation that we got
in the angelical realm is all these Europeans. All right,
when you go into the church, you see a white Jesus. Okay,
you see white angels and so forth, and people will say, well,
what about this Jesus? Well, first of all, the whole
the Romans are the ones who, as I said, persecuted
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and exterminated the Gnostics who were talking about the ca
And this may be very deep too many people that
the idea of the Christ that came from the origins
of the call that means spirit, that means we all
are a Christ, provided that you rise up your spirit, okay,
to fight against tyranny and oppression, as the early Gnostics did.
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So when we see that this Jesus, which is Greek,
that the Romans formulated from syrapis all right, and the
making of this character all right. So now, yes, there
were those who were fighting against the tyranny of the Romans,
just like we would have a Martin Luther King or
a Malcolm X who rose up their call, their spirit.
They were a Christ to fight against tyranny and oppression,
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all right. That they were fighting against against the America,
all right that time, the American.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
Government, so the America with no car.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
And this can become and this can become confusing to
people who when we're turning back the pages of time
here all right, but again without the Nile Valley, without Egypt,
there would not be as we know Christianity as we
know it. As I started with Matthew's where the Gospels
were they writing these things that they're writing it in Egypt.
So the origin of Christianity starts in Egypt.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
No matter how you slice it. When when when you said,
you know, the rebirth of the sun, you know you're
talking about the sun.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
And the sky issue in called raw, an ancient called raw.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
That almost sounds like you're saying, we shoul shouldn't be
taking these stories literally.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
Well, spiritual mythologies, that's what they That's what they were
in ancient Chemic and these early astrophysicists who understood the
birth of the Sunday understood the hilochorizing of the star
called Sabl Sipta. And I'm going to be showing this.
I know that some of this may sound confusing talking
about it, but I'm going to show a comparative analysis.
I'm going to show the reliefs from the temples.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
In the beliefs are the carvings on the.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Wall into the netrihads, the buying houses we call temples
today heads n hits.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
I learned a couple of you know, men who net
your words every time Ashak and I talked. So these
reliefs are things that aren't carried away. They're not they're
carved into the water to this temple.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
And they were built with the temple. And even though
they robbed the library, okay, of those papyacies I talked about,
in the building of the Alexander Library. Most of us
know about the Alexandra Library, but they don't tell us
where they got the scrolls to put in that library, okay.
And that's what the that's what the Romans studied, the
Romans and the Byzantine Romans studied for you know, a
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thousand years. And that's also includes the Greeks.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Morris Phillips sixty five eighteen says, guess what Egypt is
in Africa, y'all? And that's south of Africa, right, super basic,
but something you've been fighting and that classic Egyptologists suppose
that Egyptologists do not acknowledge.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Well, they don't want to acknowledge, because when Napoleon came
in seventeen ninety eight, this became their interest in the
awakening of Egypt. Again, as I said, Theodosis and Justinian
are the ones who shut the temples down. They were
under the sand for a thousand years and no one
knew about Egypt. No one knew about the stories. In fact,
Egypt was demonized and vilified for people to stay away
from it. Because if we once we go back and study,
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as I said, the reliefs, see the comparisons, we can
see how they copied these ideas from so you know
this this so the Western version of Christianity. Like Hegel Okay,
a German philosopher, and around the seventeen hundred, this is
what started the academic racism of taking Egypt out of Africa,
because he said Egypt was part of the European world,
(29:07):
all right, and then from that time out you say
you're going to Africa orhere you're going to Africa. I'm
going to Egypt. Weell, Egypt is not in Africa. And
that was set out by Hego to start the academic racism.
And from that point out we had not have a
geographical view that Egypt was part of Africa. The now
does not start in France, the now does not start
in Europe. The now starts in the Great Lakes region.
(29:27):
The now starts in the area of Tanzania, Uganda and
Kenya and the Great Lake Nianza. Without that interior of Africa.
The spiritual ideas. It took thousands of years to develop.
They reached the Zenith and Kimmit on those miuments and temples.
The zoop types okay, not animal worship okay, just like
we have Matthew, Mark, Luke and John who represented as animals.
(29:50):
It's not animal worship. Okay. Well you referred to Kimmitt
and relationship to animals is referred to as animal worship. Okay.
But the zoop types so that they had on those
temples are all related to Africa. They're not in Asia,
they're not in Europe. They're all in Africa. The spiritual
system is right there in the Nile Valley and the
civilization as well as the spirituality and concepts. Okay, we
(30:12):
can see what this has always been to fear because
the Western world has taught the world. The world was
in savagery until Europeans came on the scene.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
I mean, and when you do your lectures where you
have one tomorrow Saturday, December thirteenth, it's at thirty seven
to twenty five down Fellipe, Big Drive. I just put
it in my stories. It's on kement New on Facebook.
You can find out about getting tickets.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
And this is all visual documentation.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
By the way, Yeah, that's what I'm gonna say. You
show pictures that match what you're saying.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
We're talking about something like this. You know, the cerebral
organ called the brain, it'll do what it's supposed to do.
Think this was about, okay, thinking and seeing the knowledge.
And now keep in mind, this did not come overnight.
It took you know, years to see this on the
monuments and temples. And why, as I said before I set,
why did Theodosius? Why did they You can see where
(31:02):
she was chiseled out, you know, I mean even though
they carved into the temple, you still see even though
chiseled this holy child Haru. You see a set. Here
we see off virgin birth. We have an amacic conception,
the world's first holy city apt to here we see
she's impregnated. Okay, biasar Okay, that's the spiritual father of
(31:23):
a Haru. So again, one story, it can't be a coincidence,
one story after the other. After all, Kim, it was
thousands of years before the Western world was even in existence,
and when we come into the Greek and Roman time period,
that was thousands of years later.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Well, Mel was asking you should black people be concerned
about modern Egypt's opposition to teaching ancient kimm It was
black ruled and populated, and they've been vehement about that.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
Well, well, keep in mind, this is coming from the West.
This is coming from the Western world. This is keep
in mind the attack on the whole African centered movement
started with the with the Europeans over here, I mean
white people over here, who are attacking the whole African
centered movement. So when you look at Egyptology, even over there,
the Egyptology is a European study, all right. They are
(32:13):
the ones who they're the ones who started it. I
call it a white supremacy Egyptology because that's what it is,
all right. Let's see. So they just literally brought it
over there. The Arabs came in six point forty one AD. Okay,
they came in as invaders as well, just like the
Romans did, just like the Greeks did, and so forth.
When you go and look at the indigenous population, especially
go into Upper Chemmic here, we see this is the
(32:35):
indigenous population. These are very they look just like African
people in America, melanated people. All right. Yeah, when you
go and when you in the Cairo area, the north
or what is known as Lower Egypt. This is where
the invasions came in at Okay, just like in America,
you can't expect see an indigenous person coming into New
(32:56):
York City, Okay, as they referred to as Native American.
You're not going to see them. You have to go
way out west where they were pushed. So same thing
with Keemi, all right. When we look at the indigenous population,
they are in the south, especially when we look at
the tiny Hesi and are known as d Nubians, all right,
which is cush is the mother of Egypt. And see
that's a whole nother history in story within itself.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
But I mean you just cited that the Arabs invaded
or came in, right And the Greeks.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Yeah, the Greeks again the first the Greeks came in
as philosophers. Okay. When we look at Theyle's okay, and
Pythagoras okay, and our children even though they get the
Pythagorian theorem, but they don't tell them where Pethagoras got
his steering from. In fact, about a year ago, sisters
were in sixty minutes. These were young high school students,
young African American hash high school students who had broke
a code, a mathematical code over two thousand years, that
(33:47):
they called the Pathagorian theorem. But they didn't tell the
young African American students two sisters, okay, who broke this code.
They didn't tell them that that was the m Hotep
code going back five thousand years, that the Thagoras plagiarized
when he came in and studied for twenty two years
in Egypt. These are the things that are not told.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
That he plagiarized from m ho Tep.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
Well, he plagiarized the concept Motep goes back five thousand, yes,
so he was. But the papyruses of the mathematical like
the what they call the most mathematical papyrus. Okay, even
though they call they put Europeans names on it, right
who those who who's so called discovered the papyruses, they
generally put their names on it, like the Ebers medical
(34:31):
papyrus and so forth, okay, and other papyrusies so and
But when we get to Pythagoras, the Western world puts
his name on this theorem. You got the greatest monuments
on the planet are the great mirrors known as the
Greeks referred to as pyramids, all right, like Kufu, the
largest structure on the planet, are the tallest until the
(34:52):
Empire state building. Still can't figure out the mathematical skill
that's how it built that structure. And now it's all
about the Thagorian theore. But those two sisters broke that code.
Anybody can look that up on the sixty minute story
they were on sixty minutes right, Yeah, absolutely, but I
hope to somebody will tell them the motel and that
goes back to their ancestors where the Pathagoras got that from.
(35:14):
Even though we're deviating from some of the things that
we're talking about.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
Yeah, folks got questions, Well, look you can go to
the lecture tomorrow and get questions answered and see the photos.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
In that mass lecture itself.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
Yes, yeah, and the lecture itself and forty three years
of travel and seeing this with you take.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
A break from frolicking out here and just gave us frolicking.
It's hilarious. Yeah, because because even Black Friday, you know me,
Black Friday was a time that came out of the
time when when the auction block Okay. That's when a
lot of our ancestors were sold on the auction block.
That's why it's called Black Friday. Okay, that's when the
seale of Christmas is you're.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
A black person.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
That's what it was. That's what it was. Okay.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Thirty seven twenty five Don Felipe drive Doors Open and
five lectures starts at sick. You can call three two
three eight four nine five oh eight seven three two
three a four nine five oh eight seven. You can
go to kement New on Facebook, or you can go
look at my stories because I just posted the flyer
for it on my Stories. I'm gonna put it up
on my Twitter as well. We're talking with astra Quazi
(36:18):
live in studio with unapologetically progressive kV l A. I
was gonna say, unapologetically comedic kV LA TAR fifteen eighty. Okay,
I gotta I'm gonna have to get some I'm gonna
have to get some extra time off some kind of
way because I need to go on your tour. You
(36:40):
you take a tour where people can see all of.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
These really things and every day and I lecture every
day even before you get to the site. You're gonna
be familiar with the site and know the knowledge of
the miaments and temples even before we get there. It
looks so two days. We call it a trip of
a lifetime and that's what it is. That's where we Okay,
you're going in July to Nubia four days.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
July thirteenth to twenty seventh, July thirtieth to August thirteenth
and a cruise.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
S Nubia for DA cruise Danubia.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
Is that before or after we cram our head full
of knowledge?
Speaker 2 (37:11):
Oh that well, that's going to be the beginning of it.
But even on the cruise, will have lectures on the cruise.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
This is a this is a traveling university. It's a
beautiful tour. They can go to Kementnew dot com k
E M E T N you is that at Kementnew
dot com to sign up? Man, Yeah, okay, I want
to go. I absolutely want to go. I need to
go on that trip. I know several people that have
(37:38):
traveled with us to Africa, have gone with you, and
they were they loved it great. They love love love
the tours with you and your wife Mary were a
quazy shout out to her. She's brilliant.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
That's the boance. She's the business manager. You know, it'd
be a lot of rough edges if I was doing.
But I always say, brothers, we see the picture, but
we miss a lot of detail. So she knows the details.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
Everyone play your position.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
Right, Yeah, that's what it's all about. It's called it
the spiritual dialectical laws of opposites.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
That's is my aunt. Do you think that the principles
of mott are Are they related to Christianity? Is that
part of it?
Speaker 2 (38:20):
Yes? Well, well you know right now we're talking about Christianity,
but when we look at the Hebrew religion it equally.
It took ideas and we speak of my art and
the moral ethical codes. It was originally one hundred and
forty seven of these more ethical codes broken down into
forty two. You see it on the Protetos or meaning
the tombs or the Valley of the Kings. And because
to go into the spiritual realm okay, you had to
(38:40):
have these moral ethical codes that you had to live
by while you're on earth, Like what, okay, I have
not robbed, I have not killed, I have not stolen.
And what does that sound like to you?
Speaker 1 (38:49):
Sounds like some commandments, right, but it says I have not.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
And even if you go and read Sigmund Freud and
Moses Monotheism, and Sigmund Freud is talking about how the
whole idea of the Ten Commandments was taken from the
laws of my aunt, and then that end that he
says Kimmitt had it right because you proclaimed your own
I have not done this. But in the Hebrew version Thal,
someone's telling you.
Speaker 1 (39:12):
I'm telling you what to do instead of warring about themselves.
Speaker 2 (39:15):
Exactly crazy.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
I know, we just got a couple of minutes here,
but how does the winter solstice, which is coming up
the twenty first, how does that tie into all of this.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
Well, this is what it's all about. It's the winter solstice.
That's what our ancestors observed for thousands of years. It's
the birth of the sun, and they saw that in
the Cometz and the Komez is the spiritual birth of
the sun. That's what it is, a spiritual beginning. It's
a spiritual birth an ancient Kmmit that personified in the
early spiritual story of the Holy Birth of Haru that
I've been talking about, that was based off of that
Heilic rising of that star this Romans called Series that
(39:47):
most of us know it by that name, and Kimmity
has called Selosipta and the three stars in Orion's belt
the points anyone can see it some of the twenty
fifth and uh, everybody, there's no clouds you can see.
Look to the right you'll see the constellation of Ryan
three stars and Ryan belts points to that star. Okay,
that becomes the three Magi that they refer to the
three wise men right. So here, all this is about cosmology.
(40:11):
As now Europeans have put themselves into your tide and
we look at it as though this is a story
that is real when it was based off of cosmology.
Birth of the Sun and spiritual ideas that were plagiarized
from ancient chemed that goes back thousands of years ago.
Sorrah is the birth of the son of God, Sorrah
(40:31):
that was taken from the temples of chemib Cadu. I
mean this was most mind blowing to me. Okay, once
I started to study the meddw neture and seeing concepts
like neb Kdou lord king of Kings, I mean, what
are you hearing here? You're hearing the ideas and things
that are in the Bible. All right. That's why I
refer to these or books in stone, because it's from
(40:55):
those temples that we can see that without them, what
we know in the religions, not only Christianity, Judaism, Islam, Buddhism, Krishna,
all that knowledge came up out of that fallopian too.
So not only was it the birth of humanity, it
was the birth of spirituality that became Western religions today.
Speaker 1 (41:17):
Yeah, we have thirty seconds, so much.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
To talk about it, but this lecture will be definitely
we're going to get into this and from the reliefs,
one can see where and I specifically am talking about
it at this time because of this particular time of
the year, and we can see that this came from
our ancestors thousands of years ago. We have a doctor, goodfriend,
(41:39):
piece be upon him, Richard King. Doctor Richard King was saying,
we have an African ancestral genetic memory bank, but it's
been locked up, and it's been locked up through the
deification of someone else's culture, okay, and images and representation.
But once we open up that spiritual ancestral genetic memory bank, okay,
(42:00):
it's like like the ancestors are knocking at the door.
All right, and all we open up, and this will
all open up to you. I did not know this myself,
but I wanted to know. And as they say, seeking
you shr vine, Okay, absolutely know that truth, and that
truth will set you free. Well I feel I've been
set free all right, and understanding the world around me
and not just living in a bubble and just out
(42:22):
there frolicking and carrying on it spending all your money.
Maybe you can save some money and understand what this
is all about.
Speaker 1 (42:28):
Okay, we're gonna have to leave it there. I's for crazy.
Thank you so much for coming in. It's been an
absolute pleasure. The best of Tavis Smiley is up next.
He's got highlights from the week that was, and boy
does he have some great highlights. Well, like my mama
used to say, history is now, Like I always say,
we're living it together. Until next time. One love, Love,
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when you think about ancient Egypt, we have to look
(03:17):
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world renowned scholar and takes people to Egypt on tours
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an author. We will talk with him next on KBLA
(03:57):
Talk fifteen to eighty. And this morning you're not just
waking up with me. It is my honor to welcome
to the studio one of our premier scholars on African
and Black history. He is a lecturer, an author and
actually leads tours to Kemit the Motherland every single year
(04:19):
with his wife Mary rah ashra Quazy. Welcome to KBLA.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Great honor to be here, Monique.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Yeah, it's great to have you. And I know you
come in town to you know, KBLA we just need
to see in a k those are silent, but I
know you come here. You know, every six months or so,
you travel all around the world and one of the
times that you typically come is the holiday season.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Oh yeah, yeah, well this is a very important time.
You know a lot of people are out there in
the frolicking of the holiday. I call it the celebration
of the multinational corporation celebration. Everybody's making money in the
multinational corporations, but little people are out there struggling trying
to buy those gifts. But when we look at this
(05:09):
holiday find it's very important. As you mentioned many years,
forty three years now returning back to kemmy as we
referred to as it's referred.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
To a three years three Wow, I've been.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
It's like a whole time and space went so fast.
I can't believe.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
And you guys go twice a year, so that's close
to one hundred trips.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Yes, yes, and two trips in the summer.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Honored brothers and sisters love to travel with us. So
because of the popularity of the tour, we have to
do two tours. My wife and I, it's.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Funny to me because I know that you know, you're
all about the business of teaching people and helping us
understand what we're seeing when we go to Egypt to Kemmit,
and you've told me that you're a little bit like
a drill sergeant. But people can't get enough of it.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Well, yeah, I mean there's so much to do and
when you have a large group you have to be
a little drill. You take over one hundred and some people.
So wow again. But the people love it, love it
when they see that we're on time and things are organized.
In fact, our trip is very is known for being
very organized. Yes, we have to keep it that way.
We can't let one or two people turn out the
(06:15):
whole trip, no doubt.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
So one of the things that you come for every
every holiday season is to talk about the African origins
in what we see the Christmas myths, the symbols and
the stories, and you're doing just that Tomorrow, Saturday the thirteenth,
at thirty seven to twenty five, Don Felipe drive in
La five o'clock doors open. Lecture starts at six and
(06:41):
this is put on by Afropedia, our friend to beat.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
And yeah those university, is Bobby right with college?
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Yes? So why why is it so important to you
to talk about the historical beginnings of Christianity and what
are some of the things that we don't know?
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Well, well, first of all, he's you mentioned traveling to
Kimmitt for forty three years, and the monuments, of course
will blow your mind. But it's the reliefs are very
powerful and so powerful that we can see that what
we see in this holiday was literally many concepts were
literally plagiarized from the temples and tombs. We know that
the Greeks were the early Europeans who first came into Egypt,
(07:21):
and then after them they became the Romans, and in
that process they built in Alexandria Library. That was during
the potatomic period of three hundred years Romans, another four
hundred years Byzantine Romans, you know, another four hundred something
over a thousand years studying this knowledge, and even though
many of the temples were plundered from the papyruses. In fact,
that the name paper gets its name by the way,
(07:42):
from papyrus. Even though those temples were plundered in the libraries,
but they built that Alexander Library and studied for over
a thousand years. That's a very long time. So when
we see this holiday and many things in this winter solstice,
as Chemic referred to it as at this particular time
the birth of the sun. In fact, it was called
the rames the birth of the son, and it was
(08:03):
during this time it was also called the commes Haru okay,
comes means the spiritual birth. In fact, this is how
Christmas in fact gets its name out of commes.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Okay, Christmas Commes.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Means the spiritual birth, commeth spiritual birth. So at this
time it was the spiritual birth of Haru. Now, all
this is around is we know about the birth of Jesus,
but that whole concept was literally plagiarized from the commas
Haru that means Haru was born at December the twenty fifth.
And we actually showed this to our group at the
temples at one temple called the temple of Dandara. They're
(08:37):
dedicated to head Heru and she was called Murray by
the way, Okay, that means the love and being the
surrogate mother for her Ruin. And I know many people
do not know many of these concepts and stories, but
this Without ancient Egypt, what we know is the Christmas
holiday would not exist in terms of how we know it. Now.
We know about the idea of the star and the
(08:59):
East to get the indication that Jesus was going to
be born in the three Magi three wise men, and
many of our people are just blown away when they
go to the Temple of Isis now called it, it
was called the Temple of us Set. In fact, it
was the last temple that was closed by the Byzantine Romans.
Why was this temple shut down? It was Theodosious and
(09:21):
just standing in a fourth and sixte and three AD.
Literally not only did they chisel out the Madonna and
child of Isis okay, lactating her holy child Haru, who
was born of a holy birth in Maket conception, but
by closing this temple down, they knew that the world
would not know. And these temples were in fact covered
in sand for a thousand years. They were only dug
(09:41):
out to make tourist dollars, but not to tell the
truth with many of the concepts that we see, so
we think of ideas. When I showed people at them
and measi house means the birth house. And you see
what is known as the Netta rus and Netta Ruse
would be like, uh, we would say it's angels today
or divine divinities, and they are shocked, three of them coming. Okay,
(10:02):
giving adoration to the Holy childhood rule carved in stone.
And seeing that this predates Western version of Christianity. Now
when we go back and look at the Matthews, and
we go back and look at Matthews, okay, and the
story of Matthews, he's writing the story of the Holy
birth okay, and the magi and the star in the
(10:23):
east to give the indication that Jesus was born on
Semar twenty fifth. He's writing at Alexandria, Egypt. Now this
is important because that library is there of these ancient
scrolls and papyruses that were stolen from these temples to
build the Alexandra Library. So Matthews, it's writing this story
based off of an ancient story created by African people
(10:45):
thousands of years ago. Is always say that African people,
we are stolen people from the African continent. So an
intelligent question would ask what else has been stolen? And
even though we're caught up in the frenzy some of
us in this holiday, uh, trying to buy so many
things and so forth. And even though you see many
(11:05):
ideas around the holiday, and of course many of the
people who are buying pine trees and cutting down the
forest and so forth, it gives us oxygen okay, that
we need. And but one has to ask why, okay,
why do we have that? Well, it's culture is very important.
Now when we look at the Romans, okay, when they
(11:28):
were trying to convert the Germanic tribes okay, over into
the Western version I say, the Western version of Christianity,
because Christianity started in Egypt before the Western version of it, okay,
if we know it. But when they when the Romans
were going into Germania, the Germans, yeah, this is German,
it was called Germanian Romans.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Are trying to convert, are trying to convert the Germanians,
the Germans over to Christianity.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
But they were, but they had customs and things that
they did not want to give up. And some of
these customs was the pine tree. Now, why the pine
tree in Germany. Now you think of Germany and think
of winter, everything becomes barren. But that pine tree, I say,
referred to as the evergreen tree, and they bow down
and worshiped that tree because it represented Thor. By the
way Thursday is name, that's where Thursday gets its name.
(12:17):
Friday was free of the mother, Saturday was Satanilia. Okay,
that goes back to the Romans who also worshiped Satanilia
that Santa is derived from. But back to this tree.
So they bow down and worship that tree. So the
question is why do we put gifts up under that tree,
that pine tree. We put gifts up under that tree
(12:37):
because you got to bow down to that tree to
get your gift. And that goes back to Thor okay,
in the evergreen tree. Now, the Germans brought that tree
to America, Okay, in eighteen forty in Germantown, right, that's
where the Germans set up in German in Germantown now,
even though many black people live there now, but one
(12:57):
time it was Germans, and that's when the the tree,
the pine tree, the Christmas tree, that's when it came
to America in eighteen forty and from that time out
it's a German culture all right, of the pine tree
bobbing down to that tree.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
So it sounds like if it's based on German culture,
it's more of what people would call a pagan tradition
or a indigenous tradition.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Well, he will, yeah, I mean it goes back. We'll see. Well,
for instance, we go to people say they go buy
the Bible, let's go buy it. Instead of going buy it,
let's go in it a little bit. There's some things
in there instead of you know, just looking at these things. Okay,
we want to look at it and see where the
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customs came from. So I go to Jeremiah, and Jeremiah
it clearly says, okay, because there's some things in there
we need to know, and there's some things in the
Bible we don't need to know, but we need to know.
When Jeremiah says, I do not take it away of
the heathen, where heathen is a German term, Okay, that
means heath dweller. Heath dweller is one who's uncivilized, and
they say they'll cut the tree out of for us,
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they'll deck it with silver and gold and so forth.
Now that's in the Bible. They're telling you that this
is the way of the he then, okay, as you
were just referred to as the pagans, what they would
do with this particular tree at this particular time, all right. Now,
this other character this in this holiday is Santa Okay,
Santa Claus as referred to s and and when a
child could get confused, you got Jesus on one side
(14:29):
and Santa Claus on the other side. And you think
I'm gonna go with That's another culture that came from
the Romans of Satanilia during this time. They were called
this time Caesar's Christians, all right, because they were able
to celebrate Christianity and so forth, right along with Satanilia
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at this particular time. Now, the difference with Satanilly he
did not bring gifts. He ate his babies, all right.
And Greece he was called Cronus. Anyone can look up Cronus,
all right, and Cronus ate his babies. And it's a
very famous art, okay, Western art of Cronus eating his
baby and the blood is running. Now, I know this
(15:10):
is some glory stuff, and I know this people may
be dejected by listening to this kind of thing in
such a joyous chime of the year, Halloween. But at
least we should think about some of the things that
we're practicing that we're in. So he's eating his babies,
and this is where that Santa Claus is derived from.
And keep in mind the candy cane when the elf
(15:32):
okay that we see generally attached to the candy cane
is symbolic. It's a symbol. It's a subliberal message of
an old, old culture that came out of the Roman culture,
came out of the Greek culture. And now we see
Santa Claus eating his baby and the candy cane with
the red going down that candy cane is the blood
running down the baby. Anyone can look that up Cronus
(15:53):
and see him eating the baby. And I know this
is rough because people might have their candy canes under
tree and have the tree and bottle and down to
the tree of thor and so forth. But at least
we can understand why these things are here and where
they actually came from. But even though we practiced this
in America, we can see the vilifying and demonizing of
(16:15):
African images. For instance, we were to go to the Netherlands, okay,
and even to this day, there are black people in
the Netherlands, okay, and who are protesting against what they
call zester Pete. Now zester Pete is referred to as
black Peter. And right now in the Netherlands, they are
running around with this character of Santa Claus, okay, and
(16:38):
he is Santa Claus servants in the Netherlands. Or these
are Europeans who blackface themselves. They blackface themselves and they
are these are referred to as Santa's servants, all right.
So sometimes to understand what we're in sometimes you have
to go outside of America. And going outside of America,
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we can see this practice going on. And one man
went back to the Netherlands and he was shocked the
how so many of the Dutch and were running up
to him and wanted to touch him and so forth. Okay,
he was a very melanated brother, but he didn't understand
that they were looking at him as Zetsir Pete, right,
(17:19):
and Zetsir Pete was Santa's servants, all right, So the
question is what are we practicing over here when we
see that it's part of the European culture and so forth.
And these are some things for us to understand. You
know that even though we see the spirituality that came
up out of Africa thousands of years ago and converted
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over into Western version of Christianity, as I talked about
the temples and tombs of ancient Chemic validates that the
reliefs and why these temples were covered up, because when
we see the whole idea of what we know as
the winter solstice we're in right now, and I go
out in my backyard Dominique and look up to the
sky and see that star. It was referred to as
(18:04):
Sebasipta that most people know of this series, that's the
Roman term for it. Greeks call it Sothus, and the
rising of that star told them the birth of the
sun and an ancient kymt this is where Haru became
personification of the sun. Later on Western version of uh
when development of Christianity, Jesus becomes the personification of the sun.
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At this time, when we look at the old tide,
why do they always have the sun behind their head.
All right. When you look at the virgant virgo, Okay,
she's got the sun behind her head, because that's the
virgin during the time of the As we go into
the autumn, it's getting darker, isn't it getting darker? Now?
As getting darker, that's symbolic of that. We see the
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birth of the sun. And it was always personified as
an ancient kymt, the birth of Haru. And when the
Byzantine Romans who were in Egypt for four hundred years,
they plagiarized that idea and attached it to Christianity. That
came up out of ancient spiritual consciousness thousands of years ago.
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So when we look at the ul tide, you're looking
at a cosmological event in European images, all right. So
you look at the magi known as the Three Wise Men,
all right, those are the three stars in the constellation
of Orion. Anyone can see Orion's constellation, those three stars
point directly to that star during the time of the
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birth of the sun, cisely at December the twenty fifth.
So many people are shocked to hear these stories. And
when we go to another temple, was that said the
temple known as Headow, and she was known as love. Okay,
and her name was called Murray. All right, that was
a symbol for love. That's the ancient name in Kimmic,
(19:52):
that was called Murray. And the most ancient language of
ancient Kemic called the meddu neture, the most hieroglyphics. Right,
I was about to say what you just said. The
Greek referred to this hieroglyphics. And here it's a symbol
like an a turned sideways in two feathers Murray. Now
the Conference of Ephesus, Okay, in four to thirty one
a d. This is where a set was the Africanized
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and at these various ecumenical conferences where they started to
formulate these different concepts into the making of the Western
version of Christianity. And fact, even in Webster's Dictionary it
would even tell you that the virgin birth was at
four thirty one. This is where they did this at
(20:35):
this particular conference is the Conference of Ephesus. The first
conference was called the Conference of Nisine in three twenty
five AD, and that conference was the formulation of the
Western version of what you know as Western version of Christianity,
where many things were plagiarized and I even have a
picture of one of the people that they had to
(20:57):
go along with this was named Sylvester the first I
called him to Clarence Thomas of his day.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
We're going about to go into news, traffic in sports
right here, and then we'll keep this conversation going on
the other side. But one of the questions that you know,
I like to look at and maybe I probably I've
asked you this before, we've talked over the years. But
if I'm a Christian, am I to make of this
that you know, Christianity itself has its origins in ancient
(21:26):
chemic or is this a debunking of Christianity or is
it a new understanding of the origins? Or is it
a debunking of certain aspects? And it you know, great question,
you know, so we'll look at that AFTERNOWS Traffic and sports.
The iconic historian ashra Quasi is here today. Tomorrow is
(21:48):
his lecture in La on Don Felippe Drive, and that's
why Afropedia we'll give you more on that. How to
go let me come forward on KBLA talk fifteen eighty
and today it's scholarly is Ashra quasi he is here
in la He's here in the studio with me and
you can go see him lecture. I just put it
(22:09):
on my stories on Instagram, but it's also on your Facebook,
which is Kemit new right, kim yes, k e t
it means.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Black people, kimit news translation black people.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Okay, it means black people. In the medju the hieroglyphics,
Kwmela is complaining that they're serving the YouTube commercials are
serving him up a black Jesus, a white Jesus while
he's trying to listen to you. So the question I
opposed to you, like, as a Christian, what are what
are people to make of this? What do we make
of this? Is it? Does it mean that Christianity, the
(22:42):
real Christianity has its roots in ancient Egypt? Does it
mean that you know some of these symbols shouldn't be
connected with Christianity? Or how how do you see it?
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Well, as you heard me talk, I said, the Western
version of Christianity, Uh, the African people, we are very
spiritual people. The foundation, as I refer to the now
as the Philopian Tube, that four thousand, protety two hundred miles.
Why the Philopian Tube not only to give birth to humanity,
it gave birth to spirituality. It became religion today. And
(23:16):
so when we look at Christianity, if we're going to
be a Christian, then research Christianity. It started in Egypt,
all right, the ideas, the spiritual ideas. Now, let's look
at the early Christians known as the Gnostics. They were
known as the knowers of the spiritual truth. Why did
the Romans who not only persecute and exterminate all of them?
In fact, those of us who are know the history
(23:40):
of Christianity about Cyprian. Cyprian was a African Gnostic, why
did they cut off his head to start the persecution
of North African Christians. When we look at the early
Christian fathers of Totillian Saint Augustine, they're from North Africa.
So they understood the spiritual concert of the cop that
(24:01):
I said talked about earlier. Okay, that the Gnostics called
the Caress all right, and the Romans converted to Christ
all right, that means spiritual as we're going through this
right now, Okay, this is referred to as Christmas. It
came out of cob mess spiritual birth. So when the
Romans were exterminating these early African gnostics okay, the earliest
spiritual idea of Christianity. They were like the conduit, so
(24:24):
to say, of ancient spiritual ideas that came out of
Chemic that was developed thousands of years. But when the
Romans were coming in, there was a new world order
through Constantine. And through Constantine he wanted the whole Western
version of all of this, okay, to be put in
a European world. And that came through their ecumenical conferences
(24:46):
that I referred to as the Conference of Nicsene and
three twenty five AD, as I referred to as religious gangsters.
They got together to formulate the Western version. And through
that Western version, this is where we got caught into
the images and representation of Christianity. Is peace to be
upon him that doctor Clark would say, the colonization of
(25:06):
the afterlife, because the images and representation that we got
in the angelical realm is all these Europeans. All right,
when you go into the church, you see a white Jesus. Okay,
you see white angels and so forth, and people will say, well,
what about this Jesus? Well, first of all, the whole
the Romans are the ones who, as I said, persecuted
(25:27):
and exterminated the Gnostics who were talking about the ca
And this may be very deep too many people that
the idea of the Christ that came from the origins
of the call that means spirit, that means we all
are a Christ, provided that you rise up your spirit, okay,
to fight against tyranny and oppression, as the early Gnostics did.
(25:49):
So when we see that this Jesus, which is Greek,
that the Romans formulated from syrapis all right, and the
making of this character all right. So now, yes, there
were those who were fighting against the tyranny of the Romans,
just like we would have a Martin Luther King or
a Malcolm X who rose up their call, their spirit.
They were a Christ to fight against tyranny and oppression,
(26:10):
all right. That they were fighting against against the America,
all right that time, the American.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
Government, so the America with no car.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
And this can become and this can become confusing to
people who when we're turning back the pages of time
here all right, but again without the Nile Valley, without Egypt,
there would not be as we know Christianity as we
know it. As I started with Matthew's where the Gospels
were they writing these things that they're writing it in Egypt.
So the origin of Christianity starts in Egypt.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
No matter how you slice it. When when when you said,
you know, the rebirth of the sun, you know you're
talking about the sun.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
And the sky issue in called raw, an ancient called raw.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
That almost sounds like you're saying, we shoul shouldn't be
taking these stories literally.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
Well, spiritual mythologies, that's what they That's what they were
in ancient Chemic and these early astrophysicists who understood the
birth of the Sunday understood the hilochorizing of the star
called Sabl Sipta. And I'm going to be showing this.
I know that some of this may sound confusing talking
about it, but I'm going to show a comparative analysis.
I'm going to show the reliefs from the temples.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
In the beliefs are the carvings on the.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Wall into the netrihads, the buying houses we call temples
today heads n hits.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
I learned a couple of you know, men who net
your words every time Ashak and I talked. So these
reliefs are things that aren't carried away. They're not they're
carved into the water to this temple.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
And they were built with the temple. And even though
they robbed the library, okay, of those papyacies I talked about,
in the building of the Alexander Library. Most of us
know about the Alexandra Library, but they don't tell us
where they got the scrolls to put in that library, okay.
And that's what the that's what the Romans studied, the
Romans and the Byzantine Romans studied for you know, a
(28:06):
thousand years. And that's also includes the Greeks.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Morris Phillips sixty five eighteen says, guess what Egypt is
in Africa, y'all? And that's south of Africa, right, super basic,
but something you've been fighting and that classic Egyptologists suppose
that Egyptologists do not acknowledge.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Well, they don't want to acknowledge, because when Napoleon came
in seventeen ninety eight, this became their interest in the
awakening of Egypt. Again, as I said, Theodosis and Justinian
are the ones who shut the temples down. They were
under the sand for a thousand years and no one
knew about Egypt. No one knew about the stories. In fact,
Egypt was demonized and vilified for people to stay away
from it. Because if we once we go back and study,
(28:46):
as I said, the reliefs, see the comparisons, we can
see how they copied these ideas from so you know
this this so the Western version of Christianity. Like Hegel Okay,
a German philosopher, and around the seventeen hundred, this is
what started the academic racism of taking Egypt out of Africa,
because he said Egypt was part of the European world,
(29:07):
all right, and then from that time out you say
you're going to Africa orhere you're going to Africa. I'm
going to Egypt. Weell, Egypt is not in Africa. And
that was set out by Hego to start the academic racism.
And from that point out we had not have a
geographical view that Egypt was part of Africa. The now
does not start in France, the now does not start
in Europe. The now starts in the Great Lakes region.
(29:27):
The now starts in the area of Tanzania, Uganda and
Kenya and the Great Lake Nianza. Without that interior of Africa.
The spiritual ideas. It took thousands of years to develop.
They reached the Zenith and Kimmit on those miuments and temples.
The zoop types okay, not animal worship okay, just like
we have Matthew, Mark, Luke and John who represented as animals.
(29:50):
It's not animal worship. Okay. Well you referred to Kimmitt
and relationship to animals is referred to as animal worship. Okay.
But the zoop types so that they had on those
temples are all related to Africa. They're not in Asia,
they're not in Europe. They're all in Africa. The spiritual
system is right there in the Nile Valley and the
civilization as well as the spirituality and concepts. Okay, we
(30:12):
can see what this has always been to fear because
the Western world has taught the world. The world was
in savagery until Europeans came on the scene.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
I mean, and when you do your lectures where you
have one tomorrow Saturday, December thirteenth, it's at thirty seven
to twenty five down Fellipe, Big Drive. I just put
it in my stories. It's on kement New on Facebook.
You can find out about getting tickets.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
And this is all visual documentation.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
By the way, Yeah, that's what I'm gonna say. You
show pictures that match what you're saying.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
We're talking about something like this. You know, the cerebral
organ called the brain, it'll do what it's supposed to do.
Think this was about, okay, thinking and seeing the knowledge.
And now keep in mind, this did not come overnight.
It took you know, years to see this on the
monuments and temples. And why, as I said before I set,
why did Theodosius? Why did they You can see where
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she was chiseled out, you know, I mean even though
they carved into the temple, you still see even though
chiseled this holy child Haru. You see a set. Here
we see off virgin birth. We have an amacic conception,
the world's first holy city apt to here we see
she's impregnated. Okay, biasar Okay, that's the spiritual father of
(31:23):
a Haru. So again, one story, it can't be a coincidence,
one story after the other. After all, Kim, it was
thousands of years before the Western world was even in existence,
and when we come into the Greek and Roman time period,
that was thousands of years later.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Well, Mel was asking you should black people be concerned
about modern Egypt's opposition to teaching ancient kimm It was
black ruled and populated, and they've been vehement about that.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
Well, well, keep in mind, this is coming from the West.
This is coming from the Western world. This is keep
in mind the attack on the whole African centered movement
started with the with the Europeans over here, I mean
white people over here, who are attacking the whole African
centered movement. So when you look at Egyptology, even over there,
the Egyptology is a European study, all right. They are
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the ones who they're the ones who started it. I
call it a white supremacy Egyptology because that's what it is,
all right. Let's see. So they just literally brought it
over there. The Arabs came in six point forty one AD. Okay,
they came in as invaders as well, just like the
Romans did, just like the Greeks did, and so forth.
When you go and look at the indigenous population, especially
go into Upper Chemmic here, we see this is the
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indigenous population. These are very they look just like African
people in America, melanated people. All right. Yeah, when you
go and when you in the Cairo area, the north
or what is known as Lower Egypt. This is where
the invasions came in at Okay, just like in America,
you can't expect see an indigenous person coming into New
(32:56):
York City, Okay, as they referred to as Native American.
You're not going to see them. You have to go
way out west where they were pushed. So same thing
with Keemi, all right. When we look at the indigenous population,
they are in the south, especially when we look at
the tiny Hesi and are known as d Nubians, all right,
which is cush is the mother of Egypt. And see
that's a whole nother history in story within itself.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
But I mean you just cited that the Arabs invaded
or came in, right And the Greeks.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Yeah, the Greeks again the first the Greeks came in
as philosophers. Okay. When we look at Theyle's okay, and
Pythagoras okay, and our children even though they get the
Pythagorian theorem, but they don't tell them where Pethagoras got
his steering from. In fact, about a year ago, sisters
were in sixty minutes. These were young high school students,
young African American hash high school students who had broke
a code, a mathematical code over two thousand years, that
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they called the Pathagorian theorem. But they didn't tell the
young African American students two sisters, okay, who broke this code.
They didn't tell them that that was the m Hotep
code going back five thousand years, that the Thagoras plagiarized
when he came in and studied for twenty two years
in Egypt. These are the things that are not told.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
That he plagiarized from m ho Tep.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
Well, he plagiarized the concept Motep goes back five thousand, yes,
so he was. But the papyruses of the mathematical like
the what they call the most mathematical papyrus. Okay, even
though they call they put Europeans names on it, right
who those who who's so called discovered the papyruses, they
generally put their names on it, like the Ebers medical
(34:31):
papyrus and so forth, okay, and other papyrusies so and
But when we get to Pythagoras, the Western world puts
his name on this theorem. You got the greatest monuments
on the planet are the great mirrors known as the
Greeks referred to as pyramids, all right, like Kufu, the
largest structure on the planet, are the tallest until the
(34:52):
Empire state building. Still can't figure out the mathematical skill
that's how it built that structure. And now it's all
about the Thagorian theore. But those two sisters broke that code.
Anybody can look that up on the sixty minute story
they were on sixty minutes right, Yeah, absolutely, but I
hope to somebody will tell them the motel and that
goes back to their ancestors where the Pathagoras got that from.
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Even though we're deviating from some of the things that
we're talking about.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
Yeah, folks got questions, Well, look you can go to
the lecture tomorrow and get questions answered and see the photos.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
In that mass lecture itself.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
Yes, yeah, and the lecture itself and forty three years
of travel and seeing this with you take.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
A break from frolicking out here and just gave us frolicking.
It's hilarious. Yeah, because because even Black Friday, you know me,
Black Friday was a time that came out of the
time when when the auction block Okay. That's when a
lot of our ancestors were sold on the auction block.
That's why it's called Black Friday. Okay, that's when the
seale of Christmas is you're.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
A black person.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
That's what it was. That's what it was. Okay.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Thirty seven twenty five Don Felipe drive Doors Open and
five lectures starts at sick. You can call three two
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on my Twitter as well. We're talking with astra Quazi
(36:18):
live in studio with unapologetically progressive kV l A. I
was gonna say, unapologetically comedic kV LA TAR fifteen eighty. Okay,
I gotta I'm gonna have to get some I'm gonna
have to get some extra time off some kind of
way because I need to go on your tour. You
(36:40):
you take a tour where people can see all of.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
These really things and every day and I lecture every
day even before you get to the site. You're gonna
be familiar with the site and know the knowledge of
the miaments and temples even before we get there. It
looks so two days. We call it a trip of
a lifetime and that's what it is. That's where we Okay,
you're going in July to Nubia four days.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
July thirteenth to twenty seventh, July thirtieth to August thirteenth
and a cruise.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
S Nubia for DA cruise Danubia.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
Is that before or after we cram our head full
of knowledge?
Speaker 2 (37:11):
Oh that well, that's going to be the beginning of it.
But even on the cruise, will have lectures on the cruise.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
This is a this is a traveling university. It's a
beautiful tour. They can go to Kementnew dot com k
E M E T N you is that at Kementnew
dot com to sign up? Man, Yeah, okay, I want
to go. I absolutely want to go. I need to
go on that trip. I know several people that have
(37:38):
traveled with us to Africa, have gone with you, and
they were they loved it great. They love love love
the tours with you and your wife Mary were a
quazy shout out to her. She's brilliant.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
That's the boance. She's the business manager. You know, it'd
be a lot of rough edges if I was doing.
But I always say, brothers, we see the picture, but
we miss a lot of detail. So she knows the details.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
Everyone play your position.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
Right, Yeah, that's what it's all about. It's called it
the spiritual dialectical laws of opposites.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
That's is my aunt. Do you think that the principles
of mott are Are they related to Christianity? Is that
part of it?
Speaker 2 (38:20):
Yes? Well, well you know right now we're talking about Christianity,
but when we look at the Hebrew religion it equally.
It took ideas and we speak of my art and
the moral ethical codes. It was originally one hundred and
forty seven of these more ethical codes broken down into
forty two. You see it on the Protetos or meaning
the tombs or the Valley of the Kings. And because
to go into the spiritual realm okay, you had to
(38:40):
have these moral ethical codes that you had to live
by while you're on earth, Like what, okay, I have
not robbed, I have not killed, I have not stolen.
And what does that sound like to you?
Speaker 1 (38:49):
Sounds like some commandments, right, but it says I have not.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
And even if you go and read Sigmund Freud and
Moses Monotheism, and Sigmund Freud is talking about how the
whole idea of the Ten Commandments was taken from the
laws of my aunt, and then that end that he
says Kimmitt had it right because you proclaimed your own
I have not done this. But in the Hebrew version Thal,
someone's telling you.
Speaker 1 (39:12):
I'm telling you what to do instead of warring about themselves.
Speaker 2 (39:15):
Exactly crazy.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
I know, we just got a couple of minutes here,
but how does the winter solstice, which is coming up
the twenty first, how does that tie into all of this.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
Well, this is what it's all about. It's the winter solstice.
That's what our ancestors observed for thousands of years. It's
the birth of the sun, and they saw that in
the Cometz and the Komez is the spiritual birth of
the sun. That's what it is, a spiritual beginning. It's
a spiritual birth an ancient Kmmit that personified in the
early spiritual story of the Holy Birth of Haru that
I've been talking about, that was based off of that
Heilic rising of that star this Romans called Series that
(39:47):
most of us know it by that name, and Kimmity
has called Selosipta and the three stars in Orion's belt
the points anyone can see it some of the twenty
fifth and uh, everybody, there's no clouds you can see.
Look to the right you'll see the constellation of Ryan
three stars and Ryan belts points to that star. Okay,
that becomes the three Magi that they refer to the
three wise men right. So here, all this is about cosmology.
(40:11):
As now Europeans have put themselves into your tide and
we look at it as though this is a story
that is real when it was based off of cosmology.
Birth of the Sun and spiritual ideas that were plagiarized
from ancient chemed that goes back thousands of years ago.
Sorrah is the birth of the son of God, Sorrah
(40:31):
that was taken from the temples of chemib Cadu. I
mean this was most mind blowing to me. Okay, once
I started to study the meddw neture and seeing concepts
like neb Kdou lord king of Kings, I mean, what
are you hearing here? You're hearing the ideas and things
that are in the Bible. All right. That's why I
refer to these or books in stone, because it's from
(40:55):
those temples that we can see that without them, what
we know in the religions, not only Christianity, Judaism, Islam, Buddhism, Krishna,
all that knowledge came up out of that fallopian too.
So not only was it the birth of humanity, it
was the birth of spirituality that became Western religions today.
Speaker 1 (41:17):
Yeah, we have thirty seconds, so much.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
To talk about it, but this lecture will be definitely
we're going to get into this and from the reliefs,
one can see where and I specifically am talking about
it at this time because of this particular time of
the year, and we can see that this came from
our ancestors thousands of years ago. We have a doctor, goodfriend,
(41:39):
piece be upon him, Richard King. Doctor Richard King was saying,
we have an African ancestral genetic memory bank, but it's
been locked up, and it's been locked up through the
deification of someone else's culture, okay, and images and representation.
But once we open up that spiritual ancestral genetic memory bank, okay,
(42:00):
it's like like the ancestors are knocking at the door.
All right, and all we open up, and this will
all open up to you. I did not know this myself,
but I wanted to know. And as they say, seeking
you shr vine, Okay, absolutely know that truth, and that
truth will set you free. Well I feel I've been
set free all right, and understanding the world around me
and not just living in a bubble and just out
(42:22):
there frolicking and carrying on it spending all your money.
Maybe you can save some money and understand what this
is all about.
Speaker 1 (42:28):
Okay, we're gonna have to leave it there. I's for crazy.
Thank you so much for coming in. It's been an
absolute pleasure. The best of Tavis Smiley is up next.
He's got highlights from the week that was, and boy
does he have some great highlights. Well, like my mama
used to say, history is now, Like I always say,
we're living it together. Until next time. One love, Love,
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