December 21, 2025 • 49 mins
One of the premiere scholars of African/Black History in the world, Kwesi is a lecturer, author and leader of educational tours with his wife Merira Kwesi. On this podcast he breaks down his knowledge of Egypt's ancient Black history and the coordinated effort by Arab and European scholars to whitewash the evidence and move Egypt out of Africa.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Top fifteen eighty.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
I'm excited as always speak with one of our premier
scholars in this country, really worldwide. He's a lecturer on
African history, civilization and religion. He conducts tours to Kimmit,
Egypt with his wife Ashra Quasi is joining us.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Good morning, Good morning Dominique here.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
It's great to talk with you.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
There's so much to talk about, and you really make
it a mission because I know that during Christmas season
and during Easter season are one you typically tour all
around and try to enlighten us about the connections between
ancient African culture and civilization and these holidays, the images,
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the traditions, the rituals.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Right well, as you mentioned, going back to Kimmit, which
means black by the way, that's the original name for Egypt.
And why this time of the year, seeing where these
things were literally plagiarized or copied from the temples and tombs.
We look at the birth of Jesus, and we look
at the resurrection of Jesus okay in Easter, and then
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the symbols and everything around it. Why should we practice
something and know nothing about it, especially the fact that
many of the spiritual ideas came from our ancestors thousands
of years ago. I mean, nothing like it on the
planet Earth. Right there in each the monuments are there.
You can't find this nowhere else but there. So when
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we think about and talk about and practice okay, and
have a belief system around something that's around a holy
birth or a resurrection, then let's go back to its origins.
Let's go back and see where it came from. And
that's why I find it very important this time of
the year. After all, I can validate it through the
visual documentation that I do with the lectures around the country.
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So as you mentioned, with the time of the winter solstice,
of which our ancestor is called the Kammese birth of
the Sun, the Holy Birth of Haru, the commes Haru.
In fact, Christmas was actually the name came out of Commez,
the spiritual birth. I show it on the reliefs and
the ancient language called the medu neture that the Greeks
referred to as the hieroglyphics.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
The reliefs are the carvings such why is this.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
So important to you? This is like a life mission.
You've been going forty three years to Egypt and telling
these stories and showing these photos and statues.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Why is it so important to you.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
That we as as Black Americans or black people globally
understand this spiritual cosmological history.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Because spiritual enslavement, that could be the worst form of enslavement,
when you're deifying something outside of yourself, okay, or the
colonization of the afterlife, Peace be upon him. As another
Grand Master Teacher, Doctor Clark would say that when you
look at the image of your representation, okay, or in
my neighborhood, when you have plastic babies and the plastic
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European families and so forth, and the brainwashing that this
is this is real, this is the Holy Family. As
I asked one man, I said, what's this plastic baby
doing in New York while? But that's the Son of God,
you see? Knowing that studying the temples and monuments where
this was plagiarized from is I you look at the
clip with I don't know if you remember the clip
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with Richard Pryor when he goes inside of the pyramid
and he starts reading some of the stuff and he said,
I'm going to tell everybody about this. Well, that's how
I feel going back to kid, everybody can use that
little scenario after going back and studying and giving recognition
to my teacher named doctor Josef and yakinin that. I
did not know this all right until I heard him
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at Long Beach State as a young man in school
at this time, and at that time, he's talking about
African history and spirituality. And I stopped him. I said,
can you prove what you're saying here today? All right?
Because I'm like everybody else, I'm thinking, this is what
it is. It's real, that's what it is is. I
can't have anything, I don't have anything else, Okay to
invalidate it, he said, young man, I can take you
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back to Africa and show you, all right, he said,
but above all, we need young people like you to
go back and do the field research. All right. Now,
keep in mind, you know, I'm twenty years old at
this time. He's telling me this. So that started a
dream that sparked the spirit in me. I said, I'm
going to go back and see if this is real.
I returned back with him in nineteen eighty one, and
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I was blown away, all right. The Miamis and temples
blew my mind, and all the writing everywhere I said,
this is this is real. I got to know about this,
never knowing that it would be forty three years of
my life, fourteen years under him, now forty three years
non stop returning back. So that's why I feel it
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so important that in my space and time where I'm here,
all right, I have a duty, okay, and also giving
respect to our ancestors, all right, to reveal this information
that I know it, okay, should I'm not say nothing
about it when it's all, you know. I can see
all the representations that they have at this holiday, and
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when I see things, I can reflect back to the
Miamis and temples. When I go back to an area
like the Temple of a set called the Temple of Vices,
the last temple that was shut down by Theodosius and
just standing in the fourth and sixth century AD. Why
did they shut these temples down? That one being the
last one, all right, that the tiny Hesians or Nubians
fought the hardest to keep open. There we see the
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Holy Child, even though they try to chisel her out,
She's still there holding her Holy child Haru in the lap.
It's all over the temple, thousands of years before Western
art was even in existence, or the images of representation
that we get of the European representation of marrying Jesus
and holding the child. So there I was able to
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see on the Mimesi house the magi okay, ideas of
the magi taken from the spiritual net of rules of
ancient chemist spiritual entities all right, showing what they referred
to as the dua with their hands up giving adoration
to this holy child. And there we see that to HOODI,
to Hood, he would be like an angel that we
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say today, the saying that the set's going to have
a holy child. Isn't that the same story that we
get a Gabriel that tells Mary he appears in the
back room, that you're going to have a holy child.
One account after the other. No one can deny this.
Then I understand why the temples were shut down, because
in order for the Western version of these ideas of
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Christianity and the celebration of Christmas, for it to survive
and for people to believe it, okay and have faith
in it, that this information could not be revealed. So
these temples were under the sand for a thousand years.
They were only dug out at the turn of the century.
No was it dug out to tell the stories that
I'm talking about. No, they were dug out to make
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tourist dollars. When Napoleon came in seventeen ninety eight. It
was a fascination with Egypt, all right, because when the
temples were shut down by the Byzantine Romans at this
time for the formulation of Western version of Christianity, they
didn't want the world to know. So the Western world
didn't know anything about Egypt, all right. The Greeks were
the first one that introduced Egypt to the Western world, okay,
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with the Greek philosophers like Bailey's Pythagorasts, playtold, Socrates and
so forth, and they admired Egypt. They loved the Egypt, okay.
They they even deified themselves on the Egypt. In fact,
they took some of the spiritual net of rules, okay,
and named themselves like the Neo Dionysus. They said they
are the new Osyrus, all right, that's the Greek name
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for Usar Okay. In the zep Tepe. I know a
lot of things that I'm talking about people may not
be familiar with. But translation zep Teppe. That would be Genesis,
where we see a creation story of the world. It
goes back to ancient Chemic with the first man and woman,
a sar and a set. But the zep Tepi or
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the kinetic story, they're created simultaneous sleep. There's not a
rib taken from a star to make a set because
they did not have misogyny or hatred towards a woman.
It was based off a balance, all right, and that
balance was called my at all right, not only the
balance of my art, but a spiritual dialectical laws of
opposites that they saw in the spiritual story, and that
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became their creation story at this particular time that the
Hebrews copied and made Genesis off of one account after
the other. Now, how in the making of bibles, Okay,
I'm saying plural, because there are many Bibles. Where was
the first Bible written at in Alexandri Egypt? Why in
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Alexandra Egypt? Because when the Romans came in the Greeks
before them, the Greeks loved Egypt, all right. A lot
of the stories about Egypt that we know is because
of the Greeks who had so much a love for Egypt.
Most conquerors will come into a country they destroy, all right,
they destroy, you know, and try to bring in their
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way of life and so forth. That didn't happen with
the Greeks. They fell in love with the Greek, not
with the Kemmittian people. But they love the spiritual stories.
So when the Romans came in, they adopted. After they
took the throne from the from the Greeks, they came in,
but their mission was to make Egypt a slave culture,
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okay to them, Okay, to to grow food for Rome,
all right. And that's after with the story. We know
about the story of Marc, Anthony and Cleopatra, okay, And
we know about the story of Octavian to change his
name to Augustus. Why Augustus, because in August, that's when
he defeated Kemmid through defeating Mark, Anthony and Cleopatra. In fact,
August is named after him. Okay. The names of the
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months are named after the Romans. Octavian got his name.
This is why we say October.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Right, So I mean, since you went there.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
I wasn't planning to go there, but since you went there,
Cleopatra is is a confusing in case, because she's later
in the dynastics.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
Well, it's not even part of that. She's at the
very end because see she's doing the Potoleomic period. And
see that Kim it was no more.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Okay period, how would you characterize that?
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Okay, the Ptolemic period. We're talking around three hundred years BC. Okay,
this is doing the Potoalomic period. This is during the
time that when Alexander comes in three thirty two BCE
and conquers Egypt. Keep in mind that the Greeks were
already there with the philosophers, okay, with they Ley's and Thagris. Okay,
so they studied. So this became a place of knowledge,
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all right, this became a fascination. Okay, It's like the
world looks at America today. Everybody wants to come to
America because this is supposed to be the place of
knowledge and wisdom. So people come here to go to universities,
and well that's the key thing right there, the multinational corporation.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
So, I mean, I think the reason I'm bringing that
up we've talked about this before. You know, the whole
controversy with the Egyptian government trying to shut down uh
Jada Pinkett Smith's interpretation of Cleopatra. We'll get some clarity
on that when we come forward and why it matters
that this is all happening during the period of.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Period period as.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Is my guest, and you're listening to KBLA Talk fifteen
with Ashra and Mary rock Quasi and actually go to
a traveling university and learn all of these things on site.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
I want to go. I'm one of these.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
We lecture every day. You know about everything before you
get to the site. So kim at New means black
people too. By the way, kemt New black people know thyself.
Black people know thyself was literally with Kimitt New.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
And so we can go to Kementtnew dot com. We
can go and find out about the tours you do
two per year in the summer because incredibly affordable.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Yes, yes, well we cosse we do it every year.
And because we own our own business, all right. We
don't have an intermediary travel agency speaking for us in Egypt.
When I talk to I talked to Egypt. Okay, I'm
the one fights for the prices for our people. They're
used to you, right, and we're coming every year and
we're in fact, this year, this is twenty twenty five,
going into twenty twenty sixth summer, we will have the
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same price, all right, And so we were able to
keep the same prices.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Last year, which is incredible.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
And it just blows my mind to see other tours
going to Egypt. I've seen one as much as ten
thousand dollars and they're not lecturing and just blowing me away,
you know, with these you know, crazy prices out there.
But you know, when you don't have your own agency,
then you got some intermediary person or or or travel
agency just not working on your behalf. They're only working
for the money part of it.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Kemmitnew dot com. Kemmittnew dot com. If you want to
find out more about the tours or you know, you
can get some of your books and.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Our DVDs that we produce, right this all one that's
on the site. Yeah. I always tell people keep those
DVD players because that's one way we can still communicate
without having some artificial intelligence or whatever else in between.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Right true.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
And the thing about it is I I gave well,
you actually gave one of your books to my son,
and it was really interesting to see, uh I didn't
see him reading it in front of me, but I
noticed it was always in the bathroom and it looked
like it had been red and red and red.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
And then you know, one.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
Day, can we try to keep it down to earth?
And these are real personalities, These are not mythological, you know,
personalities of the ancient nisus or referred to as kings
okay uh and queens, and in this in our book,
you know that these are real and going back thousands
of years.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Well, clearly was influential because you know, a year or
so later, I started hearing that my child is looking
into comedic alchemy and all these studies.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
I've been and I've been on that journey. I mean,
you know, traveling to chemic that takes you onto so
many areas like a tree, you're going in different branches
and so forth, but it still all comes together. So
it was great to hear here.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Yeah, definitely you're meeting with my child. How to huge
impact in in the book. So you can get all
that stuff at kemmitt New dot com. Kemmittnew dot com.
So we you kind of in passing mentioned Cleopatra. I
know there's a lot of confusion. Jada Pinkett Smith portrays
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her as black. The Egyptian government of today, which is
an Arab based group, got all angry and upset. They
I think are producing their own version of Cleopatra. But
you've said it's confusing because this happened during the Potolemic period.
So is why does that change maybe her ethnicity or
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you know, her origin story.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
Well, first of all, this deal with this was not
dealing with Jada Pickett. This was not the first time.
We can go all the way back to nineteen ninety
when Newsweek had Cleopatra on the cover of Newsweek and
they said the title was was Cleopatra Black? Okay? Afro
Centrist debate over cleip Now, see this is this is
where the problem comes in at why are you concentrating
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on Cleopatra? That's at the end. So this has been
my argument even in the eighties at the universities with
some professors. Why are we concentrating on her because the
Greeks are there at this particular time, But this at
the end. In fact, why don't we deal with most
Nefertari the first fifteen hundred years before Cleopatra, a very
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well melanated sister. You can't argue with her. But talking
about Cleopatra, you're still trying to make Egypt a European world.
And we don't know the history, right.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
So Cleopatra could have been Greek, she could have been well,
she was mixed.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
She'sracial, biracial if you want to, if that's what. Yeah,
biracial they say, because first of all, when the army
comes in, they don't come with their wives riding on
the horse too. Okay, they come in, they evade, and
that's the part of the raping, the missgenation, all this
takes place. Okay, even with us here in America, it's
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the same thing. Okay. It took place when we were
kidnapped from the African cot the same process it took place. Okay,
the raping and the sage nation, the same thing. So Cleopatra, okay,
we don't. We don't see her mother. We see her
father's Potolemy to twelfth, that's her father. He is Greek. Okay.
Now being that she is from she's in Kimmit when okay,
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and the line is when the Greeks come there. Her
mother grandmother definitely were Cometians, all right. It was we
referred to Egyptians today. Egyptian, by the way, is Greek,
so we don't say Egyptian, we say Cometians, all right.
When we speak of the Arabs, they come hundreds of
years later. They come in as invaders in six forty
one a d. At this particular time, so she.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Could show she could have been comedic, i e. Black
African mixed with.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
Her father's potolemy father's Potolmya. So if she was in
America today, she would clearly be looked at as a sister.
It can be clear on that, all right, But why
are we concentrating on that time.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Period, argue with because there was already colonization that was
taking place.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
The colonization is taking place. But okay, why are we
just concentrating on her because at that particular time, this
is when the Greeks were here. And the argument is
not only around Cleopatra, but the argument is trying to
make Egypt a European world. When we go back about headship, shoot,
there was no Greek civilization yet, there was no Greek
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during the time of the most Okay, the first okay.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
My role model.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Okay, yeah, okay, this is actually a king, right.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
Right, Well, she ruled is a king Okay, ruled is
a king a woman? Yeah, because there was no man
to take the thrown at that time. In fact, my wife,
she does an excellent presentation on the African committed goddesses,
the foundation of ancient chemic powerful lecture that she deals
with that. But it's the old kingdom of Nittigriss Okay.
These are these are the comedians of thousands of years
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before the Greeks. That's why that by now Jada Pickett Okay, yeah,
she was trying to bring the history there when she
came to Egypt. I mean, but she went over there
with Zadi Hawas. Zadie Awas is a known okay, uh,
you know, racist when it comes to African comedic history,
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all right, because he gets his money, okay from the
European Egyptology world when you see him on the documentaries,
all right, and that's how he gets his TV shows
and everything else, all right, But that they came on
a African centered program. I think she may have started
off with the ancient comedic queens long before Cleopatra and
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maybe came down to her now when we look at Cleopatra,
you know, that is the end of ancient Kimmot after
Augustus Caesar, who previous name was Otavian, with that war,
with that he fought against Marc Anthony and Cleopatra. After
defeat of them, that was the end of ancient Kimmt
at that time. This is when they started to take
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ideas from ancient Kimmot and the making of the Western
verge and the Christianity came into Constantine with ecumenical conferences. Okay,
a new world order. This new world order at that
time was a religious world order, and that was based
off of the Chemetic knowledge that was taken up out
of Chemid. Many of the spiritual concepts of chemists was
de Africanized, and that's why the fear that it could
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not be related to Africa, all right, it had to
be related to Europe. Because now why does all the
emphasis around Cleopatra? All right, and just lock you into
that era, because once we open up the door, now
we see Western civilization and how Greek philosophers and everyone
else and how civilization of the Western world and ideas
were taken from ancient Chemid.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
So by them focusing on Cleopatra or them and by
them I mean you know, Newsweek or time.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
Whoever put that on the cover in the European Egyptologists
and this a.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Wise person and other people like that. They set up
Afrocentric Chemetic scholars because they have a credible argument that
Europeans were present in Chemic during that period.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
You know, you know, it's mind blowing, Dominique. It's the
term afrocentric ideas. You know where it came, you know,
you know who was fighting that battle first. Nope, in Egypt,
the indigenous people in Egypt. I mean even myself. In Egypt.
I see a sister and okay, she would be referred
to as Egyptian. Okay, she's wearing African ear rings. Okay,
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this was last summer when that whole or summer before last,
when this whole thing came up, and I asked her,
I said, are you from Egypt? She said yes, I
said you were in Africa ear rings? She said, yes,
I'm an African living in Egypt. That's who I am.
And I said, oh, because they have all this thing
about Cleopatrina, you know, well that that's Zadi Hallwahs and
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that's all this stuff. But we know who who we are.
We are on the African continent. We are Africans. This
is at the grassroot level of Egypt. This is what
we don't hear the people, just like many of us
at the grassroots level, talking about the history of Africa.
You don't get that on CNN. So they're throwing this
out to the world. Okay, as though all of Egypt
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is in this whole European Egyptology, a timeline and history
of this is the European world. No, that's not the case.
Many brothers and sisters over here in this particular brother
named he was in the early Bear with me. He
was in the early nineteen hundreds who was fighting for
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the African kinetic history of Egypt. Okay too for people
to talk about. All right, So the term now many
people associate Afro centrism with the asanti, but he was
already talking about that way back then when he was
talking about how this knowledge came out of up out
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of Africa. And I know we got this technology here.
So I just bear with me for one second, but
I don't want to take up all of my time
just looking for this one term.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Is my guest.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
He is at Kemianu dot com, Kementnew dot com. If
you want to travel with him and his wife and
a bunch of other conscious, scholarly minded folks to Africa
to Egypt, which is in Africa you can do so
they go twice every summer.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
It's incredibly affordable.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
I'll give it to you after the show, but you
know that way, you'll have it as well. But my
point is is that the argument of the whole African
centered knowledge was first argued in Egypt, not with us
here in America. And that's what people don't know, all right.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
About to learn a lot of things you don't know
because we're talking with astra quoas one of our premier
scholars here in the United States and around the world,
and an historian who focuses on kem it.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
Go ahead, Okay, here she is right here, Okay, where
did afrocentrin come from? And this is a sister from
Egypt talking about how that in Egypt, that this is
where this whole knowledge came up out of uh Where
did afrocentrism come from? This idea that ancient Egypt and
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the ancient Soudan civilizations were African with black identity?
Speaker 2 (23:26):
All right, more on this one. We come forward on
KBLA talk fifteen eighty continue the conversation with lecturer, scholar
and tour leader Astra Quazi of Kemtnu kementnew dot com.
You were talking about the origins of Afrocentricity and how
this man, do say Mohammed, who wrote book The Land
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of the Pharaohs, really starts to call out the blackness
right if you will, of Egypt.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
Right of ancient Egypt. So again we were talking about
how when Jada Pickup went over and then all of
a sudden, you know, it was an uproar about the
fact that she was making Cleopatra black, okay, and the
fact that this was afrocentrism trying to take away the
history from from Egypt, when in fact, the whole African
centered movement okay. As you said, don't say Mohammad who
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wrote his book and was saying that Egypt was black,
that Egypt is an African civilization and was fighting against
the racism okay of the European Egyptologists and Arabs okay
at that time, and he was suppressed and even came
to the United States to even meet Marcus Garvey. So
this is the information showing the whole African diaspora, uh
and the whole movement of consciousness that the fact that
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this is an African civilization. But the point is that
one can go to where did Afro afrocentrism come from?
On YouTube and see our sister here from Egypt giving
the account of the fact that this is a whole
African movement. Okay, that was part of Egypt as well
as I talked to the sister who I saw in
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Egypt wearing African ear rings.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
Right, And it's back to this idea about the colonization,
academic colonization, the colonization that you know, we think of
racism in the context of the United States, but when
you look at it in the context of the of
the continent of Africa, it's also about colonizing, taking and
plagiarizing our ideas, taking.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
Our land, cultural genocide.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
Cultural genocide.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
And you know, in the environment that we're in right
now where the president can say that white South Africans
are being killed and exploited and all of this stuff.
When you go you travel to South Africa and you
see they own everything, They control everything except the government,
and arguably they control that attack the.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
Whole Africans and diaspora and Africans all over the world.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
That's what this is, right, And the only reason I
bring it up is part of a pattern, right, It's
part of a pattern of momonizing everything that's considered us
an accomplishment and blackening everything that they consider as a
problem upon him.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
As Malcolm told us, Okay, making the victim the perpetrator. Okay,
so this is what you know, bringing up Trump, this
is what he is doing. That's their classic move. All right,
here we are the victim and now trying to make
that the whites are are the victim and we are
the perpetrators. So but again, but to keep our keep
our mind out of ancient Africa.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
So when scholars are like yourself and you know, and
doctor Ben you know, are when you're coming with this
more black version of history, which is a more you know,
it's provable. As you say, You've got the receipts. They're
on the temple receipts.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
Here is humanities here without black people, there would be
no people on the planet Earth. That's the receipt You.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
Can start there, right, But why is it so important
for these so called Egyptologists, the Egyptian ones, the European ones.
You always tell us it's start with the German. But
now you know this like this Zi was Hawaski. I
mean he's an Egyptians, an Arabies Egyptian, an Arab Egyptian
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who is Minister of Tourism and antiquity. So that you've
got the tourism side on one side, and then you've
got the academics, so called Egyptologists. Why is it so
important to them to make Egyptian culture chemetic culture, history accomplishment,
not black? Why is it so important to them to
europeanize it? And I would also argue to marginalize scholars
(27:35):
like yourself and doctor Ben, you know, and and shake
on too Deep and others.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
Well, again it's the it's the again, the cultural genocide
of African history, to take it away. In fact, doctor
Ben wrote a book on the cultural genocide in African
Black studies. So again it is to keep our mind
away from ancient Africa, because keep in mind, Europe has
no ancient history. When we look at Greece, we're talking
about at best eight hundred years of BC, and I'm
(28:02):
giving a little bit, all right, So when you're dealing
with these minuments and chemic they go back thousands of years.
The whole mindset of the Western world. The world was
in savagery until the Western World came into being, and
now trying to claim the ancient miaments and temples. Even
though the greatest colossal on the planet Earth ra Haru.
I'm acted all invading armies came in, just like Count
(28:23):
Vony had to look up at that colossal as we do,
as many millions do to come to Egypt, and as
he gave the description, this is an African colossal. No
European man can walk up to that colossal and say
this is a European as Count Voney, who wrote his
book Ruins of the environre, we're talking about the largest
colossal on the planet Earth and the oldest colossal on
(28:43):
the planet Earth. Two hundred and forty feet is a
representation of a recumbent lion with the Nisus king of
the head of Haru that we see here massive structure here,
as well as the minaments and the reliefs. And furthermore,
if it was supposed to be the Arabs and the Europeans,
why did they come in and plunder and destroy? In fact,
they dug up cots or they refer to his mummies
(29:05):
and carry them off to Europe and ground them up
as the documentary that I just showed you, and to
sprinkle on their food to get the power of the
mummy or the power of the King of Egypt. This
was done all right. Also, King to the Garmon, he
cannot rest in peace if it's supposed to be an
Arab culture or European culture to this very day. You
(29:26):
can go to the Proteta or meaning tombs of Eternity
and see King to the Common, see his cot or
his mummy laid out there such disrespect. How you're not
gonna come to American see George Washington or a Lincoln,
or go to Britain and see King James laid out
there like that. So, if it was supposed to be
a respectful culture that belonged to the Arabs and the Europeans,
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why would you disrespect this cot? Why would you take
and rip his head off? Okay, and do all these
things to the Cots and ripping them apart if it
was supposed to be a culture that belonged to them,
all right, No one's going to desecrate their own culture
like that and put it on display. Only in Egypt
to come in and dig up the mummies, dig them up,
(30:08):
put them on display, and all these kinds of game
because they have no respect for it. And if people
became conscious of that this is ancient African chemedic culture
of the now valley kusheik committic culture, okay, of the
now Valley, then there would be a consciousness and an
upraising for the desecration of what they're doing to these
moments and temples as well as mummies.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
I'm going back to the beginning of our conversation for
a second, because I was so smitten by your description
of your interaction with doctor Ben and then you go
to the Motherland with him, and then you know, you
study under him for what fourteen years you see ten
years and now forty three years for you bringing others there.
(30:51):
How did that change your life? I mean other than
the obvious thing. It changes your career, But how does
it change your soul, your mindset, your outlook.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
It's a spiritual awakening, something that I never had before,
something that you know, I mean it was to be
in contact with spiritual ideas that you were taught to
believe in something else, all right, And a belief system
is somebody telling you something over and over again, or
if you use the entomology or the roots of words
(31:21):
and say, get to the root of this word belief,
and you go to the dictionary and they say you can
always tell the root of a word if you look
above and below. So above belief is a word called
be lie b e l i e to distort and misrepresent.
So in that belief, it is a distortion and a misrepresentation.
So it became a whole spiritual awakening. Not only was
(31:42):
the spiritual awakening, but it was a spiritual transformation. It
was an ancient kimrity. It was called a keparah. I
was called keperab. I'm going through a transformation. Now your
spirit is now flying into the future. You're not in
the present time now you were. You were going back
in to the sin kofa. You're going back to retrieve
(32:02):
that we have lost. You're bringing it to the present.
You're shooting it into the future. You're making sure you're
planning sees a whole transformation. I did not have that before,
all right, So that is what it did for me.
I mean to even talk about it, all right. And
the fact that there's so much of it, it's not
like you know, a little bit, all right, It's a
(32:24):
whole nother world once we open up to this whole
spiritual awakening. So if the Europeans were empowered by this not,
if they were empowered by this and they created a
whole world view of the ancient chemeetic knowledge, look what
it did for them. So if we take it, what
will it do for us?
Speaker 1 (32:46):
Great point?
Speaker 3 (32:47):
Because after all, it belongs to us.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
And then and then the universe or God sent to you. Right,
Mary and you guys have been married for thirty years.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
Thirty years. Now we met an Egypt, that's what we.
We met in Egypt, right, we met in Egypt, Right,
we met, Well, we maybe we need to talk about
it more, but we met in Egypt. She her family
came on doctor Ben's tour, all right, and uh, you
know I was going through a depression, all right. So
I was a few couple of years out of a divorce,
(33:17):
all right, thinking this was going to be a lonely
journey that you know, who's gonna who's who's going to
be on this journey? You know, with me, you know,
on this dealing with this. She came on. So we
met on the tour, and uh so we started dating.
I lived in la at the time, she lived in Dallas,
going back and forth, and uh, we decided to live
(33:39):
in in Dallas, Okay. When the earthquake came in ninety four,
it rocked her world. She never experienced anything like that.
So I moved to Dallas. Never experienced tornadoes, but uh
shaped down, blown away. But still we were together there
in uh in in Dallas. So we Uh so it's been,
it's been great, Doctor Ben. In fact did our married ceremony,
in fact, in the in fact to that story, even
(34:01):
add on to that story a year before and this
is the honest truth. The year before she came on
the tour, I walked through the greatest temple on the
planet Earth, called the Temple of Almond Nip of the
sut called Karnak today. This is a temple where eighty
thousand students particulated through this temple. This was a great
knowledge in university, still mind blowing to this very day,
(34:23):
hyper style hall, seventy nine feet high columns. I walked
through those one hundred and thirty four columns, and the
spiritual deity, Okay, that that temples dedicated is Almond that
we still see at the end of our prayers. The
Greeks are the ones that took Amin up out of
Africa and called him Zeus Almon, and the Greek and
the Romans call him Jupiter Almen. And the Byzantine Romans
dropped Zeus and Jupiter and just said amend. So we
(34:44):
end our prayers with amen. That's what it goes back
to that temple Ominnip of the sut But anyway, I'm
walking through one hundred and thirty four columns. I said, Amen,
I've given praise to THEE, I've given homies to THEE.
And now my enemies all around me. I need a
netter hemp, that's the Committic word for divine wife to
be on my side. Mary Row comes in next year,
and the following year, doctor Ben did our married ceremony,
(35:06):
and the very temple that I asked for her. Okay,
And many people said, well, I've been praying and praying,
my prayers haven't been answered. I said, well you might
be calling on the wrong god.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
Look, okay, So going there desire that I mean, so,
how how do you how would you consider your how
would you label your spirituality?
Speaker 3 (35:24):
I labor our spirituality as our ancestors saw it as
neta unk divine life. That's how they saw it, divine life.
And in my netshit in mother nature, divine forces all
around us. That's the divine forces, not man made things,
all right. Our ancestors took what they saw from their
(35:44):
empirical observation of life itself and they incorporated that into
their spirituality, all right. And so they did not see anything, okay,
like animal worship, but they saw the the innate intelligence
in animal life that we don't. Like I have a
German shepherd. He knows things that I don't know. He
can sense things and let me know, all right, that's
(36:06):
the divine intelligence that he has. They also saw that
nate intelligence in nature all right itself, all right, So
they combined that together. In fact, when you look at
the Shenus, the Shenu is the name, the royal name.
In fact, the fact that we got a first and
last name that even came from Kimmid. Right, So when
we see, yes, like the king's name Ursuma, aut Rossip
(36:28):
Tepp and ra Messel Marie Amen, all right, beautiful name.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
That sounds like about four or five b.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
Yeah, the first and last name, and it was always
represented as a b Okay, and it's sedge plant all right.
And his name okay, before his name okay, Nessu Betti
all right, that's the king, the Nissu of Upper and
Lower Egypt. Why the b the innate intelligence of animal life?
Why the sedge the innate intelligence of nature? And it's
(36:54):
very interesting about the b because they're saying, even now
that they know that there's an unbalance in the world
because the bees are dying, what did Kimid know about
the bee? All right? That they that was their keen
observation of life itself. When you look at the scare
beetle symbolizing kepera, the scarab, it rolls up, you know,
(37:20):
the dung into a ball like the sun. Okay, So
it was like at high noon the scab flies that
was called kepera. Okay, transformation is taking place. Why did
they mummify the body because this is what the Romans
didn't understand. They took it literally that the physical body
would get up and go to heaven. No no, no,
it was the saw who that they called the spiritual
(37:43):
body would rise up. A metamorphosis would take place, Okay
in that process, So think of a caterpillar. Doesn't it
crawl on the ground. Doesn't it form into a cocoon?
Isn't it called a chrysalis? A metamorphosis take place. Wants
something that wants crawled on the ground now flies. So
they observed this, so they wrapped the body up to
(38:04):
go through this chrysalis process, this metamorphosis. The physical body
stayed on earth, but the spiritual body, called the Sahoo,
goes on. I show a relief here at the tip
of heru and it's called the dancing car. Now the
Romans took it literally, okay, that it was not the
physical body but the spiritual body. But why has he
(38:25):
got two arms up, one leg down and one leg up,
because he's called the dancing ca Okay, because he's not
in the bandages no more. He's in the spiritual realm.
As always say. And our ancestor Jennic memory rank opens up.
Because in the church we get the African holy ghost.
We run around with our arms up. That's the co okay.
So this is what the Romans didn't understand. Now think
(38:46):
of the European image of this Jesus image. Why is
he wrapped up like a mummy? All right, that's taken
from ancient chemd. Where's this christ concept? Is that coming
from a concept of nature of chrysalis through that cocoon
where that metamorphosis takes place. At the other temple, we
go to the tup of Headero in the ceiling. It's
(39:08):
like your light's here, all right. The sun comes down
through the light and there you see Asar is lying
down for his call the spirit to go to the light.
I do a comparison to show Western art took the
same idea and show Jesus going to the light that
was taken from those temples during the Greek and Roman
period when that took place.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
So does that mean you would?
Speaker 2 (39:30):
Okay, I'll hold the question. I'll continue this question when
we come forward. I'm talking with ashra Quasi. He's a lecturer,
scholar and African historian. Kemitnu dot com K E M
E T and you dot com is where you can
find out more. You're listening to KBLA talk fifteen eighty.
Ashra Quasy is my guest, What an amazing conversation. So
(39:52):
you talk about uh, you know, mother nature.
Speaker 3 (39:57):
My nature in fact, mother nature.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
It's his name for Muttntschet's wilds and all of these
concepts that you're laying out, which are you know, origin stories,
linguistic ties, the thaie Christianity and what you call the
European version of Christianity back to ancient Chemis.
Speaker 1 (40:17):
So when I'm asking you.
Speaker 2 (40:18):
About your spiritual and you say, Mother Nature, the universal,
the spirit they observed it, does that mean you're an
og Christian OG?
Speaker 3 (40:29):
Well, no, no, I can't say I'm an og Christian.
I have to go back to an og African spirituality
because without African spirituality, there would not be any Christianity.
So why would I deal with the secondary?
Speaker 2 (40:41):
Well, I mean, I guess that's kind of my question.
Is it the secondary or is that?
Speaker 3 (40:46):
Well, it's the secondary because it's a corruption. It's a corruption.
It's a corruption.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
So you see it as a correct I see it's.
Speaker 3 (40:50):
A corruption because it's a corruption because, uh, they do
not they're not talking about it where they. I mean,
for instance, if I borrow something from you, okay, and
I use it, I give you credit for it, that's
one thing. But if I steal something from you and
try to claim it for myself, then right and then
I distort what you gave to me. Is that a corruption?
That's a corruption, all right. So that's what Western version
(41:13):
of Christianity did. It corrupted the spiritual ideas okay, and
then demonized and bilified ancient Egypt. So the Western Church,
the biggest fear of the Western Church was Egypt. Okay.
Why was the Egypt the feared by the Western Church? Okay?
Why was the temples? I had been saying shut down?
Because you have the proof, You have the documentation for
anyone who did a critical analytical analysis to see that,
(41:36):
they can see easy that this was plagiarized from ancient Egypt.
So when I look at it, I look at it
from how our ancestors and how they saw it, all right,
and life itself all right. So when the Romans put
a picture up in front of you and say that's
your Christ, all right, that's what they did, all right.
When ancient chemists said the cod the spirit you are,
(41:57):
that is part of your spirit from the time of
your of your birth, and if someone's trying to harm you,
you rise up your car okay, to fight against tyranny
and oppression. So that's the difference. And from that time out,
we're going outside of ourselves instead of taking the longest journey,
and what is the longest journey inside yourself?
Speaker 2 (42:19):
So for Black Christians, is there a way to, you know,
to sort of realign their spirituality with its original intent
without having to reject core beliefs.
Speaker 3 (42:33):
Well, I think the first thing is you got to
get into black divinity, all right. We can't demonize our
own image and representation and Western art. The devil was
looked at as black, okay, and all these negative things.
So would happened? It killed our own black divinity, Our
own spirituality could not could not surface, all right. And
worst of all, we got caught into worshiping, okay, and
(42:56):
deifying other European images all right, as that was real
and the angelic realm and representation of that. That is
called spiritual enslavement. Spiritual enslavement is when the enemy becomes
the deity and the spiritual subconscious of our mind. That
is the worst form of enslavement. It's worse than the
change on your body. It's the change on your spirituality.
(43:17):
So if one is getting into a spiritual place, all right,
then you're going to go on that journey to know,
all right. But if you're into just a belief, all right,
if you're just then of course you're locked into the
oppressor's point of view of religion. For the most part,
for us, as Africans in America started on the plantation,
(43:40):
how to deify these images and so forth, And it's
hard for a lot of us. All Right, when I
look at brother Klaig who started the shrine of the
Black Madonna. In fact, I have to lecture there next week.
All right, peace be upon him as an ancestor. Now,
all right, he's coming from a Christian perspective. But what
did he do? He brought the Black Madonna? All right?
(44:00):
That black Madonna is a set. When the Romans carried
a set throughout their empire at the time that they
were worshiping her. That's still in Rome to this day.
They got temples dedicated to her. Okay, the Herculean worship
of the Goddess Asset. When they went to Gaul, that
is France, all right, they worshiped her. The Notre Dame
(44:21):
still has that Black Madonna in there. So the conversion
of Christianity, she just became black. But that represented a set.
There are over five hundred viisis there over five hundred
black Madonnas in Europe? And people travel throughout Europe. They say,
why do you have all these black madonnas there? All right?
Because the Romans carried a set there. She was known
as a chemic asset, okay, or the black asset. When
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you go to London, you know, London was called Latonia,
all right. That's where he gets his name, Latonia. The
Romans built a temple to honor a set when they
came in and conquered and to Britannia that became Britain.
So London gets its name from a set. France, okay,
pera set. Doctor chikon Dial points out that France Paris,
(45:07):
France gets its name from per Isis okay, or the
house of Isis or per Set. That's her original comedic name.
That temple that was closed down, the last one that's
on the border of Egyp and Sudanda this very day,
all right. So and it's on an island. The architectural
structure of the Western Church, the oblong shape, even the
Western Church gets its design from the temple of a set.
(45:28):
So the Notre Dame is built exactly to the temple
of a set, all right. So when the Roman Byzantine Romans, Okay,
we're converting now the German, Germania and Britannia and Gaul
into Western version of Christianity. A set literally becomes the
black Madonna. And that's how we have the black Madonna.
(45:52):
So when we go back to brother Clegg, the shrine
of the Black Madonna, he's a Christian, came up out
of Catholicism. Okay, Western version of Christianity starts with Catholicism. Okay,
three eight a d. That's when they started the whole
religion and all the other denominations. It's under that umbrella. Okay.
So he is now bringing that back, but he's starting
(46:16):
with that black divinity with us said, all right, we're
coming from that micro womb our mother, all right, and
our ancestors understood the macro womb was newt all right.
Now the brainwashing is that deep that you're born from
your own black mother's womb. The day is my birthday,
Earth days. We refer to it as my mother gave
(46:37):
birth to me from her micro micro universe.
Speaker 2 (46:40):
Happy birthday, Happy solar return, Happy Earth Day.
Speaker 3 (46:46):
So I come from my mother's micro womb. And now
and I'm brainwashed now to say that the European marry
and Jesus is the Mother of God when she gave
birth to me and breast fed me, and supposed to
be that brainwashed to say that. Now this is the
Mother of God right here.
Speaker 2 (47:05):
We're close to the end of the hour, but I
feel like we're starting a whole new show. If you
want to learn more about this stuff, go to Kemitnew
dot com k E M e t nu dot com
and there you will find DVDs. There you will find
all the information to travel to Kemmit.
Speaker 3 (47:23):
Many years putting it information together and compor your home,
and a lot of the the newer DVDs I actually
are on our educational programs in Egypt live right there.
So I'm right there. I have one on Christianity which
I'm lecturing, and I go back and forth. I'm showing
the temples, just like we're talking right now. Well, I
go right to the temple and bring it right back
so you can see it for yourself. So don't take
(47:44):
my word for it.
Speaker 2 (47:45):
Is there Kemittnew dot com, Kemmittnew dot com. That's where
you can get all the information and with the visuals
as well.
Speaker 3 (47:53):
Your documentation. Let me just shape our reality. Unfortunately, most
of our reality is told by the Tell Live Vision
one hundred inch TV in a twelve by twelve living room.
Speaker 2 (48:02):
In some cases, well, we I appreciate the work that
you're doing, you know, spreading the knowledge that you have all.
Speaker 1 (48:10):
Around the world.
Speaker 2 (48:11):
And I appreciate the work that you're doing bringing folks
back to keemit to see.
Speaker 3 (48:16):
Not to believe in what I'm saying, just to think
about it. I'm not here for people to believe what
I'm saying, just to think about.
Speaker 2 (48:22):
It, just to activate your know thyself, man, woman, know thyself.
There you go, indeed, Ashra Cuazy, thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (48:30):
Domini Asanti Solimni. Thanks for you for this radio com University.
I say I.
Speaker 2 (48:35):
Shay Ustra Quasy always making us think and go a
little deeper. Happy holidays, whatever you're celebrating. From all of
us at KBLA Talk fifteen eighty, I'm so so very
grateful to you rolling with us, supporting us and being
part of our delegation three hundred and sixty five days
a year. Like my mama, the late Great Diane de Prima,
(48:58):
used to say, history is now, Like I always say,
we're making it together. Until next time.
Speaker 1 (49:05):
One love
Top fifteen eighty.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
I'm excited as always speak with one of our premier
scholars in this country, really worldwide. He's a lecturer on
African history, civilization and religion. He conducts tours to Kimmit,
Egypt with his wife Ashra Quasi is joining us.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Good morning, Good morning Dominique here.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
It's great to talk with you.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
There's so much to talk about, and you really make
it a mission because I know that during Christmas season
and during Easter season are one you typically tour all
around and try to enlighten us about the connections between
ancient African culture and civilization and these holidays, the images,
(00:46):
the traditions, the rituals.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Right well, as you mentioned, going back to Kimmit, which
means black by the way, that's the original name for Egypt.
And why this time of the year, seeing where these
things were literally plagiarized or copied from the temples and tombs.
We look at the birth of Jesus, and we look
at the resurrection of Jesus okay in Easter, and then
(01:10):
the symbols and everything around it. Why should we practice
something and know nothing about it, especially the fact that
many of the spiritual ideas came from our ancestors thousands
of years ago. I mean, nothing like it on the
planet Earth. Right there in each the monuments are there.
You can't find this nowhere else but there. So when
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we think about and talk about and practice okay, and
have a belief system around something that's around a holy
birth or a resurrection, then let's go back to its origins.
Let's go back and see where it came from. And
that's why I find it very important this time of
the year. After all, I can validate it through the
visual documentation that I do with the lectures around the country.
(01:53):
So as you mentioned, with the time of the winter solstice,
of which our ancestor is called the Kammese birth of
the Sun, the Holy Birth of Haru, the commes Haru.
In fact, Christmas was actually the name came out of Commez,
the spiritual birth. I show it on the reliefs and
the ancient language called the medu neture that the Greeks
referred to as the hieroglyphics.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
The reliefs are the carvings such why is this.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
So important to you? This is like a life mission.
You've been going forty three years to Egypt and telling
these stories and showing these photos and statues.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Why is it so important to you.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
That we as as Black Americans or black people globally
understand this spiritual cosmological history.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Because spiritual enslavement, that could be the worst form of enslavement,
when you're deifying something outside of yourself, okay, or the
colonization of the afterlife, Peace be upon him. As another
Grand Master Teacher, Doctor Clark would say that when you
look at the image of your representation, okay, or in
my neighborhood, when you have plastic babies and the plastic
(03:04):
European families and so forth, and the brainwashing that this
is this is real, this is the Holy Family. As
I asked one man, I said, what's this plastic baby
doing in New York while? But that's the Son of God,
you see? Knowing that studying the temples and monuments where
this was plagiarized from is I you look at the
clip with I don't know if you remember the clip
(03:24):
with Richard Pryor when he goes inside of the pyramid
and he starts reading some of the stuff and he said,
I'm going to tell everybody about this. Well, that's how
I feel going back to kid, everybody can use that
little scenario after going back and studying and giving recognition
to my teacher named doctor Josef and yakinin that. I
did not know this all right until I heard him
(03:45):
at Long Beach State as a young man in school
at this time, and at that time, he's talking about
African history and spirituality. And I stopped him. I said,
can you prove what you're saying here today? All right?
Because I'm like everybody else, I'm thinking, this is what
it is. It's real, that's what it is is. I
can't have anything, I don't have anything else, Okay to
invalidate it, he said, young man, I can take you
(04:08):
back to Africa and show you, all right, he said,
but above all, we need young people like you to
go back and do the field research. All right. Now,
keep in mind, you know, I'm twenty years old at
this time. He's telling me this. So that started a
dream that sparked the spirit in me. I said, I'm
going to go back and see if this is real.
I returned back with him in nineteen eighty one, and
(04:28):
I was blown away, all right. The Miamis and temples
blew my mind, and all the writing everywhere I said,
this is this is real. I got to know about this,
never knowing that it would be forty three years of
my life, fourteen years under him, now forty three years
non stop returning back. So that's why I feel it
(04:48):
so important that in my space and time where I'm here,
all right, I have a duty, okay, and also giving
respect to our ancestors, all right, to reveal this information
that I know it, okay, should I'm not say nothing
about it when it's all, you know. I can see
all the representations that they have at this holiday, and
(05:09):
when I see things, I can reflect back to the
Miamis and temples. When I go back to an area
like the Temple of a set called the Temple of Vices,
the last temple that was shut down by Theodosius and
just standing in the fourth and sixth century AD. Why
did they shut these temples down? That one being the
last one, all right, that the tiny Hesians or Nubians
fought the hardest to keep open. There we see the
(05:31):
Holy Child, even though they try to chisel her out,
She's still there holding her Holy child Haru in the lap.
It's all over the temple, thousands of years before Western
art was even in existence, or the images of representation
that we get of the European representation of marrying Jesus
and holding the child. So there I was able to
(05:52):
see on the Mimesi house the magi okay, ideas of
the magi taken from the spiritual net of rules of
ancient chemist spiritual entities all right, showing what they referred
to as the dua with their hands up giving adoration
to this holy child. And there we see that to HOODI,
to Hood, he would be like an angel that we
(06:14):
say today, the saying that the set's going to have
a holy child. Isn't that the same story that we
get a Gabriel that tells Mary he appears in the
back room, that you're going to have a holy child.
One account after the other. No one can deny this.
Then I understand why the temples were shut down, because
in order for the Western version of these ideas of
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Christianity and the celebration of Christmas, for it to survive
and for people to believe it, okay and have faith
in it, that this information could not be revealed. So
these temples were under the sand for a thousand years.
They were only dug out at the turn of the century.
No was it dug out to tell the stories that
I'm talking about. No, they were dug out to make
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tourist dollars. When Napoleon came in seventeen ninety eight. It
was a fascination with Egypt, all right, because when the
temples were shut down by the Byzantine Romans at this
time for the formulation of Western version of Christianity, they
didn't want the world to know. So the Western world
didn't know anything about Egypt, all right. The Greeks were
the first one that introduced Egypt to the Western world, okay,
(07:17):
with the Greek philosophers like Bailey's Pythagorasts, playtold, Socrates and
so forth, and they admired Egypt. They loved the Egypt, okay.
They they even deified themselves on the Egypt. In fact,
they took some of the spiritual net of rules, okay,
and named themselves like the Neo Dionysus. They said they
are the new Osyrus, all right, that's the Greek name
(07:37):
for Usar Okay. In the zep Tepe. I know a
lot of things that I'm talking about people may not
be familiar with. But translation zep Teppe. That would be Genesis,
where we see a creation story of the world. It
goes back to ancient Chemic with the first man and woman,
a sar and a set. But the zep Tepi or
(07:58):
the kinetic story, they're created simultaneous sleep. There's not a
rib taken from a star to make a set because
they did not have misogyny or hatred towards a woman.
It was based off a balance, all right, and that
balance was called my at all right, not only the
balance of my art, but a spiritual dialectical laws of
opposites that they saw in the spiritual story, and that
(08:19):
became their creation story at this particular time that the
Hebrews copied and made Genesis off of one account after
the other. Now, how in the making of bibles, Okay,
I'm saying plural, because there are many Bibles. Where was
the first Bible written at in Alexandri Egypt? Why in
(08:39):
Alexandra Egypt? Because when the Romans came in the Greeks
before them, the Greeks loved Egypt, all right. A lot
of the stories about Egypt that we know is because
of the Greeks who had so much a love for Egypt.
Most conquerors will come into a country they destroy, all right,
they destroy, you know, and try to bring in their
(08:59):
way of life and so forth. That didn't happen with
the Greeks. They fell in love with the Greek, not
with the Kemmittian people. But they love the spiritual stories.
So when the Romans came in, they adopted. After they
took the throne from the from the Greeks, they came in,
but their mission was to make Egypt a slave culture,
(09:21):
okay to them, Okay, to to grow food for Rome,
all right. And that's after with the story. We know
about the story of Marc, Anthony and Cleopatra, okay, And
we know about the story of Octavian to change his
name to Augustus. Why Augustus, because in August, that's when
he defeated Kemmid through defeating Mark, Anthony and Cleopatra. In fact,
August is named after him. Okay. The names of the
(09:44):
months are named after the Romans. Octavian got his name.
This is why we say October.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Right, So I mean, since you went there.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
I wasn't planning to go there, but since you went there,
Cleopatra is is a confusing in case, because she's later
in the dynastics.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
Well, it's not even part of that. She's at the
very end because see she's doing the Potoleomic period. And
see that Kim it was no more.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Okay period, how would you characterize that?
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Okay, the Ptolemic period. We're talking around three hundred years BC. Okay,
this is doing the Potoalomic period. This is during the
time that when Alexander comes in three thirty two BCE
and conquers Egypt. Keep in mind that the Greeks were
already there with the philosophers, okay, with they Ley's and Thagris. Okay,
so they studied. So this became a place of knowledge,
(10:37):
all right, this became a fascination. Okay, It's like the
world looks at America today. Everybody wants to come to
America because this is supposed to be the place of
knowledge and wisdom. So people come here to go to universities,
and well that's the key thing right there, the multinational corporation.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
So, I mean, I think the reason I'm bringing that
up we've talked about this before. You know, the whole
controversy with the Egyptian government trying to shut down uh
Jada Pinkett Smith's interpretation of Cleopatra. We'll get some clarity
on that when we come forward and why it matters
that this is all happening during the period of.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Period period as.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Is my guest, and you're listening to KBLA Talk fifteen
with Ashra and Mary rock Quasi and actually go to
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Speaker 1 (11:25):
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Speaker 3 (11:48):
Yes, yes, well we cosse we do it every year.
And because we own our own business, all right. We
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When I talk to I talked to Egypt. Okay, I'm
the one fights for the prices for our people. They're
used to you, right, and we're coming every year and
we're in fact, this year, this is twenty twenty five,
going into twenty twenty sixth summer, we will have the
(12:10):
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keep the same prices.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
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Speaker 3 (12:16):
And it just blows my mind to see other tours
going to Egypt. I've seen one as much as ten
thousand dollars and they're not lecturing and just blowing me away,
you know, with these you know, crazy prices out there.
But you know, when you don't have your own agency,
then you got some intermediary person or or or travel
agency just not working on your behalf. They're only working
for the money part of it.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Kemmitnew dot com. Kemmittnew dot com. If you want to
find out more about the tours or you know, you
can get some of your books and.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Our DVDs that we produce, right this all one that's
on the site. Yeah. I always tell people keep those
DVD players because that's one way we can still communicate
without having some artificial intelligence or whatever else in between.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Right true.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
And the thing about it is I I gave well,
you actually gave one of your books to my son,
and it was really interesting to see, uh I didn't
see him reading it in front of me, but I
noticed it was always in the bathroom and it looked
like it had been red and red and red.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
And then you know, one.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
Day, can we try to keep it down to earth?
And these are real personalities, These are not mythological, you know,
personalities of the ancient nisus or referred to as kings
okay uh and queens, and in this in our book,
you know that these are real and going back thousands
of years.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Well, clearly was influential because you know, a year or
so later, I started hearing that my child is looking
into comedic alchemy and all these studies.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
I've been and I've been on that journey. I mean,
you know, traveling to chemic that takes you onto so
many areas like a tree, you're going in different branches
and so forth, but it still all comes together. So
it was great to hear here.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Yeah, definitely you're meeting with my child. How to huge
impact in in the book. So you can get all
that stuff at kemmitt New dot com. Kemmittnew dot com.
So we you kind of in passing mentioned Cleopatra. I
know there's a lot of confusion. Jada Pinkett Smith portrays
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her as black. The Egyptian government of today, which is
an Arab based group, got all angry and upset. They
I think are producing their own version of Cleopatra. But
you've said it's confusing because this happened during the Potolemic period.
So is why does that change maybe her ethnicity or
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you know, her origin story.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
Well, first of all, this deal with this was not
dealing with Jada Pickett. This was not the first time.
We can go all the way back to nineteen ninety
when Newsweek had Cleopatra on the cover of Newsweek and
they said the title was was Cleopatra Black? Okay? Afro
Centrist debate over cleip Now, see this is this is
where the problem comes in at why are you concentrating
(15:05):
on Cleopatra? That's at the end. So this has been
my argument even in the eighties at the universities with
some professors. Why are we concentrating on her because the
Greeks are there at this particular time, But this at
the end. In fact, why don't we deal with most
Nefertari the first fifteen hundred years before Cleopatra, a very
(15:26):
well melanated sister. You can't argue with her. But talking
about Cleopatra, you're still trying to make Egypt a European world.
And we don't know the history, right.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
So Cleopatra could have been Greek, she could have been well,
she was mixed.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
She'sracial, biracial if you want to, if that's what. Yeah,
biracial they say, because first of all, when the army
comes in, they don't come with their wives riding on
the horse too. Okay, they come in, they evade, and
that's the part of the raping, the missgenation, all this
takes place. Okay, even with us here in America, it's
(16:01):
the same thing. Okay. It took place when we were
kidnapped from the African cot the same process it took place. Okay,
the raping and the sage nation, the same thing. So Cleopatra, okay,
we don't. We don't see her mother. We see her
father's Potolemy to twelfth, that's her father. He is Greek. Okay.
Now being that she is from she's in Kimmit when okay,
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and the line is when the Greeks come there. Her
mother grandmother definitely were Cometians, all right. It was we
referred to Egyptians today. Egyptian, by the way, is Greek,
so we don't say Egyptian, we say Cometians, all right.
When we speak of the Arabs, they come hundreds of
years later. They come in as invaders in six forty
one a d. At this particular time, so she.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Could show she could have been comedic, i e. Black
African mixed with.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
Her father's potolemy father's Potolmya. So if she was in
America today, she would clearly be looked at as a sister.
It can be clear on that, all right, But why
are we concentrating on that time.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Period, argue with because there was already colonization that was
taking place.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
The colonization is taking place. But okay, why are we
just concentrating on her because at that particular time, this
is when the Greeks were here. And the argument is
not only around Cleopatra, but the argument is trying to
make Egypt a European world. When we go back about headship, shoot,
there was no Greek civilization yet, there was no Greek
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during the time of the most Okay, the first okay.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
My role model.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Okay, yeah, okay, this is actually a king, right.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
Right, Well, she ruled is a king Okay, ruled is
a king a woman? Yeah, because there was no man
to take the thrown at that time. In fact, my wife,
she does an excellent presentation on the African committed goddesses,
the foundation of ancient chemic powerful lecture that she deals
with that. But it's the old kingdom of Nittigriss Okay.
These are these are the comedians of thousands of years
(17:54):
before the Greeks. That's why that by now Jada Pickett Okay, yeah,
she was trying to bring the history there when she
came to Egypt. I mean, but she went over there
with Zadi Hawas. Zadie Awas is a known okay, uh,
you know, racist when it comes to African comedic history,
(18:14):
all right, because he gets his money, okay from the
European Egyptology world when you see him on the documentaries,
all right, and that's how he gets his TV shows
and everything else, all right, But that they came on
a African centered program. I think she may have started
off with the ancient comedic queens long before Cleopatra and
(18:35):
maybe came down to her now when we look at Cleopatra,
you know, that is the end of ancient Kimmot after
Augustus Caesar, who previous name was Otavian, with that war,
with that he fought against Marc Anthony and Cleopatra. After
defeat of them, that was the end of ancient Kimmt
at that time. This is when they started to take
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ideas from ancient Kimmot and the making of the Western
verge and the Christianity came into Constantine with ecumenical conferences. Okay,
a new world order. This new world order at that
time was a religious world order, and that was based
off of the Chemetic knowledge that was taken up out
of Chemid. Many of the spiritual concepts of chemists was
de Africanized, and that's why the fear that it could
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not be related to Africa, all right, it had to
be related to Europe. Because now why does all the
emphasis around Cleopatra? All right, and just lock you into
that era, because once we open up the door, now
we see Western civilization and how Greek philosophers and everyone
else and how civilization of the Western world and ideas
were taken from ancient Chemid.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
So by them focusing on Cleopatra or them and by
them I mean you know, Newsweek or time.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
Whoever put that on the cover in the European Egyptologists
and this a.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Wise person and other people like that. They set up
Afrocentric Chemetic scholars because they have a credible argument that
Europeans were present in Chemic during that period.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
You know, you know, it's mind blowing, Dominique. It's the
term afrocentric ideas. You know where it came, you know,
you know who was fighting that battle first. Nope, in Egypt,
the indigenous people in Egypt. I mean even myself. In Egypt.
I see a sister and okay, she would be referred
to as Egyptian. Okay, she's wearing African ear rings. Okay,
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this was last summer when that whole or summer before last,
when this whole thing came up, and I asked her,
I said, are you from Egypt? She said yes, I
said you were in Africa ear rings? She said, yes,
I'm an African living in Egypt. That's who I am.
And I said, oh, because they have all this thing
about Cleopatrina, you know, well that that's Zadi Hallwahs and
(20:49):
that's all this stuff. But we know who who we are.
We are on the African continent. We are Africans. This
is at the grassroot level of Egypt. This is what
we don't hear the people, just like many of us
at the grassroots level, talking about the history of Africa.
You don't get that on CNN. So they're throwing this
out to the world. Okay, as though all of Egypt
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is in this whole European Egyptology, a timeline and history
of this is the European world. No, that's not the case.
Many brothers and sisters over here in this particular brother
named he was in the early Bear with me. He
was in the early nineteen hundreds who was fighting for
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the African kinetic history of Egypt. Okay too for people
to talk about. All right, So the term now many
people associate Afro centrism with the asanti, but he was
already talking about that way back then when he was
talking about how this knowledge came out of up out
(21:58):
of Africa. And I know we got this technology here.
So I just bear with me for one second, but
I don't want to take up all of my time
just looking for this one term.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Is my guest.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
He is at Kemianu dot com, Kementnew dot com. If
you want to travel with him and his wife and
a bunch of other conscious, scholarly minded folks to Africa
to Egypt, which is in Africa you can do so
they go twice every summer.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
It's incredibly affordable.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
I'll give it to you after the show, but you
know that way, you'll have it as well. But my
point is is that the argument of the whole African
centered knowledge was first argued in Egypt, not with us
here in America. And that's what people don't know, all right.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
About to learn a lot of things you don't know
because we're talking with astra quoas one of our premier
scholars here in the United States and around the world,
and an historian who focuses on kem it.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
Go ahead, Okay, here she is right here, Okay, where
did afrocentrin come from? And this is a sister from
Egypt talking about how that in Egypt, that this is
where this whole knowledge came up out of uh Where
did afrocentrism come from? This idea that ancient Egypt and
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the ancient Soudan civilizations were African with black identity?
Speaker 2 (23:26):
All right, more on this one. We come forward on
KBLA talk fifteen eighty continue the conversation with lecturer, scholar
and tour leader Astra Quazi of Kemtnu kementnew dot com.
You were talking about the origins of Afrocentricity and how
this man, do say Mohammed, who wrote book The Land
(23:50):
of the Pharaohs, really starts to call out the blackness
right if you will, of Egypt.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
Right of ancient Egypt. So again we were talking about
how when Jada Pickup went over and then all of
a sudden, you know, it was an uproar about the
fact that she was making Cleopatra black, okay, and the
fact that this was afrocentrism trying to take away the
history from from Egypt, when in fact, the whole African
centered movement okay. As you said, don't say Mohammad who
(24:18):
wrote his book and was saying that Egypt was black,
that Egypt is an African civilization and was fighting against
the racism okay of the European Egyptologists and Arabs okay
at that time, and he was suppressed and even came
to the United States to even meet Marcus Garvey. So
this is the information showing the whole African diaspora, uh
and the whole movement of consciousness that the fact that
(24:39):
this is an African civilization. But the point is that
one can go to where did Afro afrocentrism come from?
On YouTube and see our sister here from Egypt giving
the account of the fact that this is a whole
African movement. Okay, that was part of Egypt as well
as I talked to the sister who I saw in
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Egypt wearing African ear rings.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
Right, And it's back to this idea about the colonization,
academic colonization, the colonization that you know, we think of
racism in the context of the United States, but when
you look at it in the context of the of
the continent of Africa, it's also about colonizing, taking and
plagiarizing our ideas, taking.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
Our land, cultural genocide.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
Cultural genocide.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
And you know, in the environment that we're in right
now where the president can say that white South Africans
are being killed and exploited and all of this stuff.
When you go you travel to South Africa and you
see they own everything, They control everything except the government,
and arguably they control that attack the.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
Whole Africans and diaspora and Africans all over the world.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
That's what this is, right, And the only reason I
bring it up is part of a pattern, right, It's
part of a pattern of momonizing everything that's considered us
an accomplishment and blackening everything that they consider as a
problem upon him.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
As Malcolm told us, Okay, making the victim the perpetrator. Okay,
so this is what you know, bringing up Trump, this
is what he is doing. That's their classic move. All right,
here we are the victim and now trying to make
that the whites are are the victim and we are
the perpetrators. So but again, but to keep our keep
our mind out of ancient Africa.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
So when scholars are like yourself and you know, and
doctor Ben you know, are when you're coming with this
more black version of history, which is a more you know,
it's provable. As you say, You've got the receipts. They're
on the temple receipts.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
Here is humanities here without black people, there would be
no people on the planet Earth. That's the receipt You.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
Can start there, right, But why is it so important
for these so called Egyptologists, the Egyptian ones, the European ones.
You always tell us it's start with the German. But
now you know this like this Zi was Hawaski. I
mean he's an Egyptians, an Arabies Egyptian, an Arab Egyptian
(27:11):
who is Minister of Tourism and antiquity. So that you've
got the tourism side on one side, and then you've
got the academics, so called Egyptologists. Why is it so
important to them to make Egyptian culture chemetic culture, history accomplishment,
not black? Why is it so important to them to
europeanize it? And I would also argue to marginalize scholars
(27:35):
like yourself and doctor Ben, you know, and and shake
on too Deep and others.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
Well, again it's the it's the again, the cultural genocide
of African history, to take it away. In fact, doctor
Ben wrote a book on the cultural genocide in African
Black studies. So again it is to keep our mind
away from ancient Africa, because keep in mind, Europe has
no ancient history. When we look at Greece, we're talking
about at best eight hundred years of BC, and I'm
(28:02):
giving a little bit, all right, So when you're dealing
with these minuments and chemic they go back thousands of years.
The whole mindset of the Western world. The world was
in savagery until the Western World came into being, and
now trying to claim the ancient miaments and temples. Even
though the greatest colossal on the planet Earth ra Haru.
I'm acted all invading armies came in, just like Count
(28:23):
Vony had to look up at that colossal as we do,
as many millions do to come to Egypt, and as
he gave the description, this is an African colossal. No
European man can walk up to that colossal and say
this is a European as Count Voney, who wrote his
book Ruins of the environre, we're talking about the largest
colossal on the planet Earth and the oldest colossal on
(28:43):
the planet Earth. Two hundred and forty feet is a
representation of a recumbent lion with the Nisus king of
the head of Haru that we see here massive structure here,
as well as the minaments and the reliefs. And furthermore,
if it was supposed to be the Arabs and the Europeans,
why did they come in and plunder and destroy? In fact,
they dug up cots or they refer to his mummies
(29:05):
and carry them off to Europe and ground them up
as the documentary that I just showed you, and to
sprinkle on their food to get the power of the
mummy or the power of the King of Egypt. This
was done all right. Also, King to the Garmon, he
cannot rest in peace if it's supposed to be an
Arab culture or European culture to this very day. You
(29:26):
can go to the Proteta or meaning tombs of Eternity
and see King to the Common, see his cot or
his mummy laid out there such disrespect. How you're not
gonna come to American see George Washington or a Lincoln,
or go to Britain and see King James laid out
there like that. So, if it was supposed to be
a respectful culture that belonged to the Arabs and the Europeans,
(29:47):
why would you disrespect this cot? Why would you take
and rip his head off? Okay, and do all these
things to the Cots and ripping them apart if it
was supposed to be a culture that belonged to them,
all right, No one's going to desecrate their own culture
like that and put it on display. Only in Egypt
to come in and dig up the mummies, dig them up,
(30:08):
put them on display, and all these kinds of game
because they have no respect for it. And if people
became conscious of that this is ancient African chemedic culture
of the now valley kusheik committic culture, okay, of the
now Valley, then there would be a consciousness and an
upraising for the desecration of what they're doing to these
moments and temples as well as mummies.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
I'm going back to the beginning of our conversation for
a second, because I was so smitten by your description
of your interaction with doctor Ben and then you go
to the Motherland with him, and then you know, you
study under him for what fourteen years you see ten
years and now forty three years for you bringing others there.
(30:51):
How did that change your life? I mean other than
the obvious thing. It changes your career, But how does
it change your soul, your mindset, your outlook.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
It's a spiritual awakening, something that I never had before,
something that you know, I mean it was to be
in contact with spiritual ideas that you were taught to
believe in something else, all right, And a belief system
is somebody telling you something over and over again, or
if you use the entomology or the roots of words
(31:21):
and say, get to the root of this word belief,
and you go to the dictionary and they say you can
always tell the root of a word if you look
above and below. So above belief is a word called
be lie b e l i e to distort and misrepresent.
So in that belief, it is a distortion and a misrepresentation.
So it became a whole spiritual awakening. Not only was
(31:42):
the spiritual awakening, but it was a spiritual transformation. It
was an ancient kimrity. It was called a keparah. I
was called keperab. I'm going through a transformation. Now your
spirit is now flying into the future. You're not in
the present time now you were. You were going back
in to the sin kofa. You're going back to retrieve
(32:02):
that we have lost. You're bringing it to the present.
You're shooting it into the future. You're making sure you're
planning sees a whole transformation. I did not have that before,
all right, So that is what it did for me.
I mean to even talk about it, all right. And
the fact that there's so much of it, it's not
like you know, a little bit, all right, It's a
(32:24):
whole nother world once we open up to this whole
spiritual awakening. So if the Europeans were empowered by this not,
if they were empowered by this and they created a
whole world view of the ancient chemeetic knowledge, look what
it did for them. So if we take it, what
will it do for us?
Speaker 1 (32:46):
Great point?
Speaker 3 (32:47):
Because after all, it belongs to us.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
And then and then the universe or God sent to you. Right,
Mary and you guys have been married for thirty years.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
Thirty years. Now we met an Egypt, that's what we.
We met in Egypt, right, we met in Egypt, Right,
we met, Well, we maybe we need to talk about
it more, but we met in Egypt. She her family
came on doctor Ben's tour, all right, and uh, you
know I was going through a depression, all right. So
I was a few couple of years out of a divorce,
(33:17):
all right, thinking this was going to be a lonely
journey that you know, who's gonna who's who's going to
be on this journey? You know, with me, you know,
on this dealing with this. She came on. So we
met on the tour, and uh so we started dating.
I lived in la at the time, she lived in Dallas,
going back and forth, and uh, we decided to live
(33:39):
in in Dallas, Okay. When the earthquake came in ninety four,
it rocked her world. She never experienced anything like that.
So I moved to Dallas. Never experienced tornadoes, but uh
shaped down, blown away. But still we were together there
in uh in in Dallas. So we Uh so it's been,
it's been great, Doctor Ben. In fact did our married ceremony,
in fact, in the in fact to that story, even
(34:01):
add on to that story a year before and this
is the honest truth. The year before she came on
the tour, I walked through the greatest temple on the
planet Earth, called the Temple of Almond Nip of the
sut called Karnak today. This is a temple where eighty
thousand students particulated through this temple. This was a great
knowledge in university, still mind blowing to this very day,
(34:23):
hyper style hall, seventy nine feet high columns. I walked
through those one hundred and thirty four columns, and the
spiritual deity, Okay, that that temples dedicated is Almond that
we still see at the end of our prayers. The
Greeks are the ones that took Amin up out of
Africa and called him Zeus Almon, and the Greek and
the Romans call him Jupiter Almen. And the Byzantine Romans
dropped Zeus and Jupiter and just said amend. So we
(34:44):
end our prayers with amen. That's what it goes back
to that temple Ominnip of the sut But anyway, I'm
walking through one hundred and thirty four columns. I said, Amen,
I've given praise to THEE, I've given homies to THEE.
And now my enemies all around me. I need a
netter hemp, that's the Committic word for divine wife to
be on my side. Mary Row comes in next year,
and the following year, doctor Ben did our married ceremony,
(35:06):
and the very temple that I asked for her. Okay,
And many people said, well, I've been praying and praying,
my prayers haven't been answered. I said, well you might
be calling on the wrong god.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
Look, okay, So going there desire that I mean, so,
how how do you how would you consider your how
would you label your spirituality?
Speaker 3 (35:24):
I labor our spirituality as our ancestors saw it as
neta unk divine life. That's how they saw it, divine life.
And in my netshit in mother nature, divine forces all
around us. That's the divine forces, not man made things,
all right. Our ancestors took what they saw from their
(35:44):
empirical observation of life itself and they incorporated that into
their spirituality, all right. And so they did not see anything, okay,
like animal worship, but they saw the the innate intelligence
in animal life that we don't. Like I have a
German shepherd. He knows things that I don't know. He
can sense things and let me know, all right, that's
(36:06):
the divine intelligence that he has. They also saw that
nate intelligence in nature all right itself, all right, So
they combined that together. In fact, when you look at
the Shenus, the Shenu is the name, the royal name.
In fact, the fact that we got a first and
last name that even came from Kimmid. Right, So when
we see, yes, like the king's name Ursuma, aut Rossip
(36:28):
Tepp and ra Messel Marie Amen, all right, beautiful name.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
That sounds like about four or five b.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
Yeah, the first and last name, and it was always
represented as a b Okay, and it's sedge plant all right.
And his name okay, before his name okay, Nessu Betti
all right, that's the king, the Nissu of Upper and
Lower Egypt. Why the b the innate intelligence of animal life?
Why the sedge the innate intelligence of nature? And it's
(36:54):
very interesting about the b because they're saying, even now
that they know that there's an unbalance in the world
because the bees are dying, what did Kimid know about
the bee? All right? That they that was their keen
observation of life itself. When you look at the scare
beetle symbolizing kepera, the scarab, it rolls up, you know,
(37:20):
the dung into a ball like the sun. Okay, So
it was like at high noon the scab flies that
was called kepera. Okay, transformation is taking place. Why did
they mummify the body because this is what the Romans
didn't understand. They took it literally that the physical body
would get up and go to heaven. No no, no,
it was the saw who that they called the spiritual
(37:43):
body would rise up. A metamorphosis would take place, Okay
in that process, So think of a caterpillar. Doesn't it
crawl on the ground. Doesn't it form into a cocoon?
Isn't it called a chrysalis? A metamorphosis take place. Wants
something that wants crawled on the ground now flies. So
they observed this, so they wrapped the body up to
(38:04):
go through this chrysalis process, this metamorphosis. The physical body
stayed on earth, but the spiritual body, called the Sahoo,
goes on. I show a relief here at the tip
of heru and it's called the dancing car. Now the
Romans took it literally, okay, that it was not the
physical body but the spiritual body. But why has he
(38:25):
got two arms up, one leg down and one leg up,
because he's called the dancing ca Okay, because he's not
in the bandages no more. He's in the spiritual realm.
As always say. And our ancestor Jennic memory rank opens up.
Because in the church we get the African holy ghost.
We run around with our arms up. That's the co okay.
So this is what the Romans didn't understand. Now think
(38:46):
of the European image of this Jesus image. Why is
he wrapped up like a mummy? All right, that's taken
from ancient chemd. Where's this christ concept? Is that coming
from a concept of nature of chrysalis through that cocoon
where that metamorphosis takes place. At the other temple, we
go to the tup of Headero in the ceiling. It's
(39:08):
like your light's here, all right. The sun comes down
through the light and there you see Asar is lying
down for his call the spirit to go to the light.
I do a comparison to show Western art took the
same idea and show Jesus going to the light that
was taken from those temples during the Greek and Roman
period when that took place.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
So does that mean you would?
Speaker 2 (39:30):
Okay, I'll hold the question. I'll continue this question when
we come forward. I'm talking with ashra Quasi. He's a lecturer,
scholar and African historian. Kemitnu dot com K E M
E T and you dot com is where you can
find out more. You're listening to KBLA talk fifteen eighty.
Ashra Quasy is my guest, What an amazing conversation. So
(39:52):
you talk about uh, you know, mother nature.
Speaker 3 (39:57):
My nature in fact, mother nature.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
It's his name for Muttntschet's wilds and all of these
concepts that you're laying out, which are you know, origin stories,
linguistic ties, the thaie Christianity and what you call the
European version of Christianity back to ancient Chemis.
Speaker 1 (40:17):
So when I'm asking you.
Speaker 2 (40:18):
About your spiritual and you say, Mother Nature, the universal,
the spirit they observed it, does that mean you're an
og Christian OG?
Speaker 3 (40:29):
Well, no, no, I can't say I'm an og Christian.
I have to go back to an og African spirituality
because without African spirituality, there would not be any Christianity.
So why would I deal with the secondary?
Speaker 2 (40:41):
Well, I mean, I guess that's kind of my question.
Is it the secondary or is that?
Speaker 3 (40:46):
Well, it's the secondary because it's a corruption. It's a corruption.
It's a corruption.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
So you see it as a correct I see it's.
Speaker 3 (40:50):
A corruption because it's a corruption because, uh, they do
not they're not talking about it where they. I mean,
for instance, if I borrow something from you, okay, and
I use it, I give you credit for it, that's
one thing. But if I steal something from you and
try to claim it for myself, then right and then
I distort what you gave to me. Is that a corruption?
That's a corruption, all right. So that's what Western version
(41:13):
of Christianity did. It corrupted the spiritual ideas okay, and
then demonized and bilified ancient Egypt. So the Western Church,
the biggest fear of the Western Church was Egypt. Okay.
Why was the Egypt the feared by the Western Church? Okay?
Why was the temples? I had been saying shut down?
Because you have the proof, You have the documentation for
anyone who did a critical analytical analysis to see that,
(41:36):
they can see easy that this was plagiarized from ancient Egypt.
So when I look at it, I look at it
from how our ancestors and how they saw it, all right,
and life itself all right. So when the Romans put
a picture up in front of you and say that's
your Christ, all right, that's what they did, all right.
When ancient chemists said the cod the spirit you are,
(41:57):
that is part of your spirit from the time of
your of your birth, and if someone's trying to harm you,
you rise up your car okay, to fight against tyranny
and oppression. So that's the difference. And from that time out,
we're going outside of ourselves instead of taking the longest journey,
and what is the longest journey inside yourself?
Speaker 2 (42:19):
So for Black Christians, is there a way to, you know,
to sort of realign their spirituality with its original intent
without having to reject core beliefs.
Speaker 3 (42:33):
Well, I think the first thing is you got to
get into black divinity, all right. We can't demonize our
own image and representation and Western art. The devil was
looked at as black, okay, and all these negative things.
So would happened? It killed our own black divinity, Our
own spirituality could not could not surface, all right. And
worst of all, we got caught into worshiping, okay, and
(42:56):
deifying other European images all right, as that was real
and the angelic realm and representation of that. That is
called spiritual enslavement. Spiritual enslavement is when the enemy becomes
the deity and the spiritual subconscious of our mind. That
is the worst form of enslavement. It's worse than the
change on your body. It's the change on your spirituality.
(43:17):
So if one is getting into a spiritual place, all right,
then you're going to go on that journey to know,
all right. But if you're into just a belief, all right,
if you're just then of course you're locked into the
oppressor's point of view of religion. For the most part,
for us, as Africans in America started on the plantation,
(43:40):
how to deify these images and so forth, And it's
hard for a lot of us. All Right, when I
look at brother Klaig who started the shrine of the
Black Madonna. In fact, I have to lecture there next week.
All right, peace be upon him as an ancestor. Now,
all right, he's coming from a Christian perspective. But what
did he do? He brought the Black Madonna? All right?
(44:00):
That black Madonna is a set. When the Romans carried
a set throughout their empire at the time that they
were worshiping her. That's still in Rome to this day.
They got temples dedicated to her. Okay, the Herculean worship
of the Goddess Asset. When they went to Gaul, that
is France, all right, they worshiped her. The Notre Dame
(44:21):
still has that Black Madonna in there. So the conversion
of Christianity, she just became black. But that represented a set.
There are over five hundred viisis there over five hundred
black Madonnas in Europe? And people travel throughout Europe. They say,
why do you have all these black madonnas there? All right?
Because the Romans carried a set there. She was known
as a chemic asset, okay, or the black asset. When
(44:44):
you go to London, you know, London was called Latonia,
all right. That's where he gets his name, Latonia. The
Romans built a temple to honor a set when they
came in and conquered and to Britannia that became Britain.
So London gets its name from a set. France, okay,
pera set. Doctor chikon Dial points out that France Paris,
(45:07):
France gets its name from per Isis okay, or the
house of Isis or per Set. That's her original comedic name.
That temple that was closed down, the last one that's
on the border of Egyp and Sudanda this very day,
all right. So and it's on an island. The architectural
structure of the Western Church, the oblong shape, even the
Western Church gets its design from the temple of a set.
(45:28):
So the Notre Dame is built exactly to the temple
of a set, all right. So when the Roman Byzantine Romans, Okay,
we're converting now the German, Germania and Britannia and Gaul
into Western version of Christianity. A set literally becomes the
black Madonna. And that's how we have the black Madonna.
(45:52):
So when we go back to brother Clegg, the shrine
of the Black Madonna, he's a Christian, came up out
of Catholicism. Okay, Western version of Christianity starts with Catholicism. Okay,
three eight a d. That's when they started the whole
religion and all the other denominations. It's under that umbrella. Okay.
So he is now bringing that back, but he's starting
(46:16):
with that black divinity with us said, all right, we're
coming from that micro womb our mother, all right, and
our ancestors understood the macro womb was newt all right.
Now the brainwashing is that deep that you're born from
your own black mother's womb. The day is my birthday,
Earth days. We refer to it as my mother gave
(46:37):
birth to me from her micro micro universe.
Speaker 2 (46:40):
Happy birthday, Happy solar return, Happy Earth Day.
Speaker 3 (46:46):
So I come from my mother's micro womb. And now
and I'm brainwashed now to say that the European marry
and Jesus is the Mother of God when she gave
birth to me and breast fed me, and supposed to
be that brainwashed to say that. Now this is the
Mother of God right here.
Speaker 2 (47:05):
We're close to the end of the hour, but I
feel like we're starting a whole new show. If you
want to learn more about this stuff, go to Kemitnew
dot com k E M e t nu dot com
and there you will find DVDs. There you will find
all the information to travel to Kemmit.
Speaker 3 (47:23):
Many years putting it information together and compor your home,
and a lot of the the newer DVDs I actually
are on our educational programs in Egypt live right there.
So I'm right there. I have one on Christianity which
I'm lecturing, and I go back and forth. I'm showing
the temples, just like we're talking right now. Well, I
go right to the temple and bring it right back
so you can see it for yourself. So don't take
(47:44):
my word for it.
Speaker 2 (47:45):
Is there Kemittnew dot com, Kemmittnew dot com. That's where
you can get all the information and with the visuals
as well.
Speaker 3 (47:53):
Your documentation. Let me just shape our reality. Unfortunately, most
of our reality is told by the Tell Live Vision
one hundred inch TV in a twelve by twelve living room.
Speaker 2 (48:02):
In some cases, well, we I appreciate the work that
you're doing, you know, spreading the knowledge that you have all.
Speaker 1 (48:10):
Around the world.
Speaker 2 (48:11):
And I appreciate the work that you're doing bringing folks
back to keemit to see.
Speaker 3 (48:16):
Not to believe in what I'm saying, just to think
about it. I'm not here for people to believe what
I'm saying, just to think about.
Speaker 2 (48:22):
It, just to activate your know thyself, man, woman, know thyself.
There you go, indeed, Ashra Cuazy, thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (48:30):
Domini Asanti Solimni. Thanks for you for this radio com University.
I say I.
Speaker 2 (48:35):
Shay Ustra Quasy always making us think and go a
little deeper. Happy holidays, whatever you're celebrating. From all of
us at KBLA Talk fifteen eighty, I'm so so very
grateful to you rolling with us, supporting us and being
part of our delegation three hundred and sixty five days
a year. Like my mama, the late Great Diane de Prima,
(48:58):
used to say, history is now, Like I always say,
we're making it together. Until next time.
Speaker 1 (49:05):
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