First Up - The Podcast, Wednesday 4 June

On today's First Up pod: Finance Minister Nicola Willis goes in to bat for her colleague Chris Bishop as the government takes a bat to road cones; Pam Corkery has all the news from across the ditch, including the latest from the mushroom murder trial and we hear from the whanau of Makareti Papakura and find out how she ended up being the first indigenous woman to study at Oxford University. First Up - Voice of the Nathan!