May 19, 2025 • 60 mins
In this compelling sermon, Pastor Karl dives into 1 Timothy Chapter 2, continuing his verse-by-verse journey through the Bible. He emphasizes the importance of sound doctrine in guiding the church and individual Christians. Pastor Karl unpacks the big idea that God's ordering is not about oppression but orchestration, designed for our protection and flourishing. He explores Paul’s instructions to the church, highlighting the roles of grace, prayer, and devotion in the life of a Christ-follower. Addressing the contested passages on gender roles, Pastor Karl grounds his teaching in Genesis, explaining God’s design for maleness and femaleness within the family and church. With clarity and conviction, he calls the church to rest under Scripture, embrace biblical doctrine, and live out God’s complementary design as a testimony to the world. This episode challenges listeners to align with God’s order, fostering unity and purpose in the church.
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I appreciate you being here this morning.
We're going
book by book, chapter
by chapter, verse by verse,through God's word.
And I want to,
communicate the big idea for this morning.
I just want you to maybe write this downor remember it.
That,
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that God's ordering is not oppression.
It's orchestration.
I want to remember that God's
ordering is not oppression.
It's orchestration.
It's important for us to remember thatas we go through, especially chapter two,
the point of Paul's writing
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in first and second Timothy and Titus
is to guard
doctrine and guide people into it.
And so this morning,as we do every morning,
my aim and goal is to teach doctrine,to guard it
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and to guide our church into it.
Teaching doctrine is very important.
Because if one
adds to the Bible, that's legalism.
If one subtracts from the Bible,that's liberalism.
And if one ignores portions of the Biblethat leads to heresy,
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because you just fill in the blanksof what's been ignored.
And so chapter one was through Paul.
God's word to the church.
And two of the important things that Paul
says, that the church's role is,
is grace
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and doctrine.
He says, I'mthe chief, first of all, sinners.
And God'sgrace overflowed, overwhelmed me.
Grace is supposed to be partof the church and doctrine.
He says, guard doctrine.
Don't let bad doctrine be taught.
Teach good doctrine.
And in chapter two,he changes a little bit and starts
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talking to the Christian ratherthan the church and to the Christian.
He says there's a couple things that aresuper important for the Christ follower,
and it's prayer
and what living
a life of devotion looks like.
And that's what we're going to look at inchapter two.
The reason Paul wrote what he wrote.
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He tells uswhy in first Timothy chapter three, verses
15, 14 and 15he says, I hope to come to you soon.
Timothy was in Ephesus.
Paul started a church there.
Left Timothy in charge to lead it.
Young man Paul, in his early 30s.
And he said, I hope to come to you soon,but I'm writing these things to you
so that here's the reason.
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If I delay,you may know how one ought to behave
in the household of God,which is the church of the living God.
A pillar, a buttress of truth.
He says,I want to be there with you, Timothy, but
in case I can't, I want you to understand
how the people in the churchare to live according to sound doctrine.
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So? So
this is the letter written to peoplein the church about how they live,
what they do, how they orchestrate lifewithin the church.
And so it's important
to look at this, at that, this through,through those eyes.
Chapter one doctrine is important because
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if we're not solid on doctrine,
we'll settle for whattickles our ears or satisfies our peers.
Like, if we're not solid onbiblical doctrine, we'll end up being
what sounds good to me.
I don't know, everyone else thinks so too.
So why not go with it?
That's a really dangerous place to live.
And because doctrine is important.
I've written a little book calledThe Essentials of Christian Doctrine.
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It's in the Welcome center.You're welcome to pick one up.
It's free for you.
I want you to to be aware of some realbasics of Christian theology and doctrine.
So we're clear on it.
Because what I know,and you know this, too.
What did Jesus come to believe directlyshapes how that Jesus community will live?
What you and I believe will shapehow we live,
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what the church believes to shapeshow the church lives functions.
And so we have to be clear on doctrine.
Chapter two is one of the
most contested passages in Scripturein the New Testament, at least.
And so my goal in going through thisthis morning is to rightly divide
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the Word of Godso that we understand God's
standard of it and invite us
to live according to the doctrine
that is taught in God's Word.
Remember last week I said
that we rest under Scripture.
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We don't stand over it.
And so my goal and my jobevery Sunday is to teach doctrine
and invite us to rest under it
and not assume we have the authority
to stand over it.
And that'swhat we're going to do this morning.
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In order to do this.
You follow along,Tom, in order to do this.
I need to set it up with Genesisback at the very beginning.
The way things started has a
determining factor in how we understandthe way things should be.
And so before we get into firstTimothy two,
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I want to set up back in Genesis
and God's design.
God designed maleness and femaleness.
And those things are to take primary shape
in the context of a marriage and a family.
Now our culture is very differentfrom God's design,
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and that's why doctrine is important,
because we need to be clear on doctrine,
because the cultureis going to get this very confused.
And we know that confusion in the culture
should not cause confusion in the church.
Right?
And the only way the confused culturedoesn't
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cause confusion in the churchis to be solid on doctrine.
So role of the church,because our standard is not the culture.
Our standard is God's word.
Now to set this up going way back
when a boy grows up in a home.
God's design.
No culture screwed this up, no doubt,
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but God's design is that boy
lives under the submit to the leadershipinto the authority of his father.
That's God's design.
When that boy grows up and marries,he leaves his father and mother.
In Scripture and establish his own family
and becomes the leader of that family.
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When a little girl grows up in the home,
she's to submit to the leadershipand authority of her father,
and when she gets married, she transfers
that to her husband.
May be clear
this is not about women
simply obeying someonebecause they're a male.
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This has nothing to dowith a woman's role, and the culture
has nothing to do with the women's roleoutside of the home or outside the church.
This has to do with the role of the homeand family, marriage and the church.
It's not about the woman saying, becauseyou are male, I will gladly bow to you.
It's not about that at all.
It's about God's designfor the leadership of the family,
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not about a strict obedience.
Because someone's a maleand someone's a female.
You understand that? It's about design.
Original designfor leadership of the family.
Submission has been gravely misunderstood
because we've not understoodthe context of it,
stemming from the Genesis account.
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In the Genesis account, when Adam and Evewere in the garden pre sin.
The devil shows up on the sceneof the human scene
and tempts Eve with bad doctrine.
That was the temptation.
The bad doctrine that the devil temptedEve with was to question God's provision,
his standard, his love, and his design,
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and beginning with Eve, forces
that choice on all humans to doubt
good doctrine and believe bad doctrineabout God's love.
His standard, his design, his provision
from Genesis three on due to sin.
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God'sdesign has been continually distorted,
and it's led to consequences for menand for women
due to sinand the distortion of God's design.
The consequencesfor men have been twofold.
Either one
passive leadership,
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both in the familyand in the spiritual realm.
We've we've just become passive
as far as family leadership
and child rearing and discipline
and passive spiritual leadership.
Looks like women do everything or.
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In the in the
in this this this role of mennot passivity but rather
domineering, demanding and abusive.
And so that's the consequences
that men have to be very careful ofbecause of sin.
Now the consequences for womenare a little different.
Bothered by this idea
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of submission to the authority over them.
The tendency is to tend toward
complete self-sufficiency and autonomy.
Now, let me just clarify.
I got to do a lot of clarifying today.
There is nothing wrongand nothing bad with a strong,
independent,intelligent leader as a woman.
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I married one.
Now nothing wrong with that.
Ladies, please understand.
The danger iswhen the seeking of independence
means submitting to no one.
That's the danger.
And so.
The gospel comes in and sets things right.
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Everything in Scripture points to Jesus.
When we go through the Old Testamentright now.
We went through the book of Genesis,going through the book
Access on Wednesday night.
We see Jesus all over the Old Testament
because the Old Testament points towardsJesus.
The Gospels are about Jesus.
The rest of the New Testament pointsback to Jesus.
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So it's all about Jesus.
And so
this submission thingcenters and originates in Jesus.
Jesus, though equal with the father,submitted to the father
not because there was an issueof lesser value,
but just simply because of honoringGod's order.
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You understand Jesus fully.
God submitted to the father not becausethere was a difference in value,
but because therewas an honoring of order.
And so
when we submit because
we don't stand over Scripture,we rest under it.
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When we submit, what we're doingis presenting
a picture of Jesus to the world.
You understand?
So obediencesubmission is not about obedience.
It's about order and presenting the order
of God to the world that's watching.
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So that when Paul says in Ephesians two,families,
wives, submit to your husbandsas to Christ.
I know the pushback that some women have.
Well, I would, if I had a husbandwere submitting to this
right now.
Remember, we won't say thatin this company, but that right.
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And that's why Paul says, submit notto your husband because he's worthy of it.
Submit as to Christ,because Christ is worthy of it.
Because you become a
picture of Christ to the world.
This is why doctrine is important.
Chapter one
directionsto the church Biblical doctrine and Grace.
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Chapter twothe devotion of the Christian Prayer
and ordering.
Let me just read verses one through six
will unpack some stuff.
Chapter two, verse one.
First of all,then I urge that supplications, prayers,
intercessions, and thanksgiving be made,
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for all people, for kingsand all who are on high positions
that we may lead a peaceful and quietlife, godly and dignified in every way.
This is good, and it is pleasingin the sight of God our Savior,
who desires all people to be savedand to come to the knowledge of the truth.
For there is one God, and there is onemediator between God and men,
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the manChrist Jesus, who gave himself as a ransom
for all, which is the testimonygiven at the proper time.
Paul says, for the devoted Christianin the context of the church,
the first thing of first importanceis that I urge you
to pray supplications and prayers,
to pray, intercessions and thanksgiving.
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He says, I want you to be a churchand a devoted
people of Jesus that prayswhen he says the word.
Intercessions, that means a communicationwith intimate language,
as if you're talking to your closestfriend.
It's familiar.
So I want you to pray as thoughyou're talking to your closest friend.
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This intimate setting.
It's not some high holy, reserved,
you know, mantra.
It's this intercession, this intimacy,
this closeness and thanksgiving.
One should never praywithout giving thanks.
To pray without givingthanks teeters on this idea
that the one you're talking tois a resource, not a relationship.
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Thanksgiving makes it a relationship.
And so he says, I want youto pray this way for all people.
And then he specifies for kings and allwho are in high positions, presidents,
senators aswhat are you talking about, Congressman?
Governors,
people in high positions.
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He said, I want you to pray for them.
Intercede for them.
Give thanks for them,
It's so interesting to me
that the one who wrote thisis saying to pray for all these people.
And the ruler at the time was Caesar Nero,
the one who was one of the most violent,
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abusive, repulsive emperors
in all of Rome against the church,the one who would behead Paul.
Paul is saying,Plead to God on his behalf.
Not that God removes him,but that he is blessed with wisdom,
that that he makes wise decisions,that he comes to faith
and pray that their decisionsallow us, as Paul says, to lead peaceful,
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quiet lives, godlylives, dignified in every way.
Listen, I want our leaders.
I want the best things for them
because as things go well for them,they usually go well for us.
It's so interesting to me how
the church navigatedthe past few presidencies,
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because the church has not done a good job
on seeking intercession for Joe Biden.
When he was at office,
we saw intercession,most of us, for him to leave.
But but not
not for wisdom, not for discernment.
Not because we cared about him.
Same thing with Trump. It'sso interesting.
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These last couple election cycles,
the church has justbecome more divided than ever
because we focused
on the man in the officerather than the kingdom of God.
He says,I want you to be praying for these people
and honestly be praying for them.
One Because God desiresall people to be saved
and to come to a knowledge of the truth,because there's one God and one mediator,
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the manJesus Christ. This is the point of it all
for their salvation,
because their salvation is for your good.
I could spend a lot more time talking.
I'm not going tobecause there's a lot in here.
We got to get through them.Let me go to verse.
Where am I verse seven.
Now look what he says.
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Verse seven,
for thisI was appointed a preacher and an apostle.
I'm telling the truth. I'm not lying.
A teacher of the Gentilesin faith and truth.
These are important wordsto pay attention to,
because some of these words are goingto come up later in his instructions
to the churchand to the disciples of the church.
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He said, God has appointed meto be a preacher and a teacher.
Here's what we have to understand.
Those two words are different.
Most of the time in our context.
Those are synonymous.
We just think every preacher is a teacher,every teacher in the church, a preacher.
And are you a preacher, teacheror whatever? Doesn't matter.
Paul uses two very different wordsto talk about what it is to be a preacher,
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what is to be a teacher.
And when he says, Godhas appointed me as a teacher.
The Greek word is crux,and it literally means ambassador.
It means a herald of God's truth,of salvation
to proclaim salvation to the unsaved.
And it's what we do in Matthew 28.
Proclaim to all the world.
That's what it is to preach.
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Preaching is the the workthat's done to the unsaved
of the proclamation of salvationthrough Christ alone.
That's what preaching is.
And then he says, I am also a teacher.
Teach us a completely different word.
The word Paul uses a dinosaur. Go.
And it literally means doctrine.
And so a teacher teaches
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the saved the doctrine of God.
Biblical doctrine to the saved,not to the unsaved.
Preaching to the unsavedabout the proclamation of salvation.
The good news teachingis doctrine to the saved.
So they'll be firm on good doctrine,because what they believe about
doctrine will determine how they live.
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In acts 242.
The Bible says of the first churchthat the the disciples gave themselves,
it says, literally gave themselvesto the apostles doctrine.
It's the same word if teach us teaching.
So teaching and doctrineare the exact same word.
And so the church's role, the pastor'srole is to teach doctrine to the church.
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Every Christ followers
role is to preach the gospel to the world.
And Paul says,I have been charged with both
some people have been gifted in preachingand not teaching.
Some have been gifted in teachingand not preaching.
Some few are gifted in both
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preaching the gospel of good newsto salvation to the unsaved
and preaching deep, profoundbiblical doctrine
to the saved.
And that was Paul.
And so Paul starts
to instruct men, instruct the church.
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And let's just look at what he says.
I desire this is verse eight.
I desire that in every placethe men should pray,
lifting holy handswithout anger or quarreling.
And so after he says, this is who I am.
These are my roles.
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Then he starts to direct the disciples,
man disciples and women disciples.
And because of God's ordering,
that goes back to Genesis one
when he asked to direct men and women.
Guess who he starts with?
Men. So I'm going to start with you.
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And this way says to men.
That in every place men should pray,
lifting holy handswithout anger or quarreling.
Let me just untie this a little bit.
There's three things here.
He says I want men to lift up holy hands,
to lift up holy hands and pray
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to lift up holy hands.
I know what most people are thinking.
Well, this is he'snot really talking about doing this,
although that's what he said.
He's really just talkingabout the attitude of the heart.
And the reason we say that is because mostmen are so uncomfortable with this.
And so we explain it away.
And there's part of usthat love to stand over Scripture
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rather than rest under it.
Now, doesit mean the attitude of your heart 100%?
It means I'm going to lift upHoly in absolute.
My heart is lifted up before got 100%,
but the outward
expression is always a reflectionof the inward heart.
You know it is
all through Scripture.
The Scripture gives us examplesof how people prayed
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people.
They stood and they looked up to heaven,and they lifted their hand
because their expectationwas coming from there.
This was this was a position of prayer
all through Scripture,as was this, the position of prayer.
I'm going to kneel before God.
And and this is mythis is my way of surrender.
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If you take a knee, I'm going to restbefore you.
As was lame prostrate.
I don't know if the cameraand get me from here.
But I'm gonna lay prostrate,face down. Why?
Because what happens when it slows down?
What do you do? I surrender, I'm not
right.
And it's.
This is the way, God,I am laid out before you.
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I'm completely certainthe only thing that isn't taught in
Scripture how to pray is this.
Nowhere in Scriptureis anyone seen sitting
and praying, closing their eyesand folding their hands.
Now I understand why we teach thisto our children.
Because they're squirrels.
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But hopefully at this point in our lives,
we're not children anymore.
And that this is how we pray.
And so, Paul, through the inspiration
of the Holy Spirit from God, says, man,
you have to take the leadership
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in worship and the expressions of worship
because your familieswill follow your lead.
You have to take the leadin expressive worship,
and he doesn't mandatewhat it has to look like, but it has to.
You gotta see, it's got to be apparent.
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And so he says, lift up
the understand.
Like, get out of yourself.
Quit being so self-conscious and insecureand make it about him and not about you.
But Paul saying, lift up holy hands.
And by holy hands he's saying,listen, men, your lies have got to be lies
that are godly and humble
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and sacrificial and servant like,
not domineering and demanding
and dominating.
Most of the time when women push back
against the authority of their husbandor someone in their life, it's
because they haven't seen menwith holy hands.
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I've seen plenty of mentry to be domineering,
but not men with holy hands.
And again,when he doesn't have holy hands,
where to submit as to
Christ,
because he does have holy hands.
And then he says, lift up holy hands.
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Pray men,
men must take the lead spiritually.
That is our job as a husband.
We are the priest of our family.
There's too many men
that have relegatedtheir lives to passivity, both in child
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rearing and childdisciplining and child correcting,
and in spirituality.
There's too many women that relegatedthat.
I would love for a month
for the womento stop leading in this church.
Just stop teaching Sunday school.
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Stop the refreshment thing.
Stop the worship leading.
You know, I, I would love to see
what would happen.
When you'd like to see what would happen.
Yeah.All the women's heads are doing this.
The guy's like, no, like,why would you suggest that?
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That's heresy.
Maybe men
don't lead because women do it all.
And so, ladies,you have my permission to stop.
Let's see how the church does.
Men lead
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with a holy life and lead in worship.
I said last week that abdication
is never part of God's plan.
Man, you hear me?
Yeah.
Who said yes? That was good.
Thank thank you.
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Billy.
So let's get to the tough stuff.
Verse nine.
Likewisealso that women should adorn themselves
in respectable apparelwith modesty and self-control,
not with braided hair and gold or pearlsor costly attire,
but with what is proper for womenwho profess godliness with good works.
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Do you know many pastorsthat preach on the Sunday morning
about first Timothy two?
Yeah.
Cowards is what they are.
Here, here, here, here.
Here's here's what, here's what, here'swhat Paul saying ladies, this is
the point is make it your clothes shouldcommunicate your conversion.
That's what he's saying.
Just make sure you're close.
Communicate your conversion.
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Parents,please teach this to your children.
So, junior high, high school,college kids.
You know exactly what I'm talking about.
The problem in this culture,and it's the same in our culture,
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is that saved people outwardlylooked exactly
like unsaved people.
Dressed just as provocatively.
Just as scantily.
And Paul saying, make sure that that
what everybody seescommunicate your conversion.
When he says womendressed with respectable apparel
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what is that's we get our word cosmeticsfrom that Greek word.
So he's not saying don't makeup,don't do your hair.
No jewelry.
Wear a bonnet skirt down to your knees.
Like, just become Amish and you're okay.
That's not what he's saying.
He's just saying, do what you gotta do.
But just make sure that what you do
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communicates that you've been convertedfrom the culture.
Make sure that your outward
appearance shows your inward conversion.
In other words,spend more time on your soul than you do
in the mirror.
And I'm
so thankful for the women of Flip Side,
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because some of you might hear me thoughI'm saying this with John.
I got him.
This is such a dangerous messagefor me to preach.
Some of you women have been walkingwith Jesus for generations,
and you look like women who have walkingwith Jesus for generations.
You present yourself
with modestyand appropriateness and dignity
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and strength and honor.
And it's not all about me.
Look at me. Look at me.
And it's not because you're old.
It's because you're faithful.
And many women don't get this right.
So thank you.
You're a great example for those coming up
after you.
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This is so difficult in our culturethat celebrates, idolize
and venerates the externaland that curses and a voice
and denying the aging.
Ladies, thank you for doing it so well.
Men, we have great responsibility
in this with the women in our lives,
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and we will either help them do thisor hinder them from this.
By how we look at women,by how we respond to women,
and how we respond to our own wivesas they age.
It's very important.
And if that's not touch enough subject,let me get on to the rest of this.
And just remember thatbefore we get to this,
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we don't stand over it, right?
We rest under it.
We have to understand that
about Scriptureand that when we talk about following
Christ, it means we follow his ordering,not just his saving.
Most people want to be saved by Jesus.
They don't want to follow his ordering.
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And so we talk about followingJesus involves both.
Doctrine determines direction.
And so we're going to look at hisdirecting verses 11 through 15.
Let a woman learn quietlywith all submissiveness.
I do not fear. Why am I preaching on this?
I do not permit a womanto teach or exercise authority over man.
Rather, she is to remain quiet.
For Adam was formed first, then Eve.
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And Adam was not deceived, but the womanwas deceived and became a transgressor.
Yet she will be saved through childbearingif they continue in faith
and love and holiness and self-control.
Okay. You're ready? Yes.
We miss.
We miss what?
The first thing that Paul sayinghere, Paul is saying here.
Let her learn
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in that in the Roman culture,
most women were uneducatedand they had no hope of being educated.
One of the things Paul is sayingis let them learn.
Now remember the context is the church.
Let them learn.
The context is the church setting.
He said, let them learn at church,but let them process
and talk about it at homewith a man with holy hands.
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Do you see how these tie together?
The issue is the same issuewith the church in Corinth,
and the way the synagogues,
the synagogue is the closest thingwe have in the Bible to a local church.
And Imma talk about that later.
But just understand this for now.
The synagogue was designedso that men sat on one side
and women on the other,and sometimes women
were even behind a veillike they weren't even seen at church.
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And what would happen
when the teacher of the synagoguewas teaching doctrine to the people?
Women would have a questionbecause they didn't grow up
with the background of educationat the minute,
and they would start talkingduring the sermon.
Hey, what is he right about?
What about this?
And Paul's saying, look,just knock that off.
Doctrines got to be taughtand I want you to learn.
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But all these questions go to the dinerafterwards.
Your husband, who has holy hands, talkthat through with him.
Talk about it in your huddles. Process it.
Process it outside of here because it getstoo chaotic in here to do it.
He says, let them learn.
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It appears from verses11 and 12 that the teaching function.
I'm not talking about the preaching,
the communication of the gospelto the unsaved for salvation.
The teaching function in the churchis to be done.
Is a is a man's responsibility.
Hear me not do to worthnot doing a difference in worth.
Not because of difference in dignity,not because of a difference in value.
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We know from Scripture that men and women,
male and female, are made inGod's very image.
So this issue is not an issueof importance.
It's not an issue of intelligence.
It's not an issue of gifting.
It's not an issue of skill.
It's not an issue of godliness.
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It's simplyan issue of the expression of God's role
of the
it's God's expression
of how he's ordered it.
We are equal.
Would you agree?
Equal in value, men and women?
Would you agree?
Yes, we're equal, but we're not the same
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according to God's ordering.
When you look at this, it says,
I don't permit a woman to teach.
Remember the differencein those two words.
Preach and teach.
Paul knows what he's talking about.
He uses those words specifically in verseseven.
He uses this one specifically in 11 here.
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I don't permit a woman to teachor in verse 12.
He uses the same word like,I don't permit a woman
to doctrine.
Teaching in the context of the church
or to exercise authority.
When Paul uses that word,exercise authority.
Again, we have to know doctrine.
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It goes back to Genesis
because of sin.
The curse God said to the woman,you will now desire your.
You're a pain in childbirth,that your desire will be for your husband.
That's what he says after the fall.
That word desire doesn'tmean, oh, I want you.
It doesn't mean that.
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It means you will now,
because of sin, desire to have dominionand rule over your husband.
How do we know that?
Because you look at Genesis four seven
when God is talking to Cainbefore he kills his brother Abel.
God says to Cain,sin is crouching at your door
and desires you.
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Is sin desires to have dominion over you.
Sin desires to rule over you.
It's the exact same wordthat God uses of the woman
after before you will desire dominionto rule over him. Now,
a rejection of submission
that Jesus Himself gave us
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in submitting to the father.
You understand all this has to do
with a prefiguring of Christ
and the order of God.
Let me address just a couple.
I'm at the same point.
I was in the first service.
I got five minutes.
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Just buckle up.
And let me addressa couple common pushbacks
against this idea of womennot teaching in this setting.
Doctrine.
I've heard it said, well,when Paul used that word, shall not teach.
It's a present tense verb.
And so it meant something for themin the present tense.
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It's not meant to be applied after that.
Great idea. Wrong.
And here's the problem.
There's over 100 presenttense of verbs in first Timothy.
And if that were the casefor the teaching part,
it has to be the casefor every other present tense of verbs,
which would mean, therefore, that Goddoesn't desire people to be saved anymore.
That we should not pray anymore.
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That we shouldn't manage our householdswell anymore, and that we shouldn't desire
a good reputationbecause those are all present verb
that present tense verbs as well.
So if you're going to apply to one
that got applied to all, and certainlyGod still cares about people being saved,
about praying,
about marriage,our household, that good rotation, right?
So so that one doesn't count.
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I've heard people say,
well, the problem was auniquely Ephesian problem,
and it wasn't meant to be appliedto all churches everywhere.
Here's the problem with that.
Paul says the exact same thingto the church in Corinth,
which was on acompletely different continent.
And so it wasn't just an Ephesian problem.
This was a church issue.
It was an ordering issue.
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I've heard people say, well, it'sbecause there was a hyper feminized
culture in Ephesuswith the Temple of Diana or Artemus.
And the process,it was super hyper feminized.
And it's pushing back.
Paul is pushing backagainst the feminization of the culture.
I'm like, well,welcome to American current day.
But the problem with that idea, though,
is that there was a riot in Ephesus,
and it was the men who rioted,not the women.
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And the controlof the civility of the city
was under man's control,not woman's control.
And so everything about Ephesus, thoughthere was the temple of Diana,
everything revolved around.
It was the men who were in control,not women.
So it's not just a feminized issue.
I've heard
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people say, well, Paul prohibitedthe women teaching false doctrine,
but if they were educated and taught,good doctrine was okay.
Here's the problem.
Paul never details the teachingof good doctrine and bad doctrine
for the prohibition about womenteaching doctrine of the church.
He doesn't make that distinction.
And that's the dangerwhen we choose to stand over it,
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because it just fliesin the face of the current culture.
We start putting stuff in therethat isn't there.
I've heard people say
that when Paul uses this idea
of exercising authority over her husband.
She was teaching
without the husband giving her authority,but the husband gave her his authority.
Teach. Then it was okay. Here'sthe problem.
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Paul doesn't say anything about a husbandgiving his wife authority to do this.
It's reading something into itbecause we've chosen to stand over it.
You got to be very careful.
I've heardpeople say this about this issue.
Well, God's nonbinary, so it doesn'tmatter anymore about male female stuff.
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And I think, well, no,I understand what you're saying.
God isn't male nor female.
I would say you're right.
He's fully male. He's fully female.
We're created in his image,in the image of God.
He created them male and female.
What I know about God is Godwrote the genetic code
and God knows the words he's using.
And he chose to weren't.
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Use these words of maleand female on purpose.
I've heard people say, well, in Christthere's no male nor female.
You're right.
The problem with that argumentis that reference Naughton or June or
Gentile, male or female, that's inreference to salvation, not to order
as far as salvation makes no difference.
Male, female, Gentile,
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Jew slavery don't make a difference.
Salvation.But that's not what this is about.
This is about ordering.
I've heard people say this,this whole idea
about when female submissionis due to the sin of Adam and Eve.
Because in Romans it says,now there is therefore no condemnation.
Are you just pretty sureabout that, pastor? Well that's true.
The problem is this ordering of malefemale us goes
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back to pre-fall creation.
Not after fall creation.
This whole idea
that that presses in on God's ordering
is part of a feministscholarly agenda towards
what we call the egalitarian view
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of men and women,
of of leadership in the home.
And the egalitarian viewsays this we're equal and we're the same.
That's the egalitarian view.
That's different from what's calledthe complementary in view.
The complementary view saysthis we're equal, but we're different.
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We're equal in value, but we're different.
Egalitarian says no, we're equal in value.
And we're the exact same.
The problem is
that there's a continual movement in this.
That's the problem with progressivesis progressivism has no end.
There's no borders.
And so in this progressive movement,from the complementary
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in view of equal but different, moving to
egalitarian, equal and same.
The progressionnow is to same and indistinct.
And that's where we are in this culture.
Men and women,we're not only the same, we're indistinct.
And here's how it fleshes out.
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Now boys can play girls sports
because after all, we're indistinct.
Now there's no gender bathrooms.
You can go in whatever one you want.
Same thing with locker rooms,because we're in distinct.
Now we get to choose our gender
because we're
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in distinct.
Now, biological sex does not determinegender.
Now someone can be non-binary.
Someone can be gender fluid.
Someone gets to choose their pronouns
because the pendulum has gone from.
We're the same value, but we're different.
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To two, we're equal in the same.
Now we're the same and the distinct.
And the problem is, many people in churchhave gotten into this
because it's taught in schoolsas if it is truth to kids.
It's taught on the university campusesthat if you don't believe it,
you're just an ignoramus.
And it's bought by people in the churchbecause they've not
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been taught good doctrine.
And it's no wonder why this generation
is the most confused generationour world has ever seen.
And it'sno wonder that there is such a vast
mental health crisis.
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The Bible says we are equal men and women,
but we're not the same.
Not in the home, nor the church.
And this is what we have to understand.
Complementarity is not competition.
It's completion.
When Eve was made, God said of her,
I will make for Adam a completer.
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So complementary in ism or equal,we're not the same.
It's not competition, it's completion.
And this is how God has completedhis image in maleness and femaleness.
And so what about women'srole in the church?
What about what they did in the Bible?
Great question. Let's talk about this.
We don'thave in this country a gender problem.
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We have a doctrine problem.
God's not made a mistake.
He didn't misgender anybody.
He got the basics right.
We stand under Scripture.
We don't. We rest under Scripture.Don't stand over it.
Just because the culture is confused doesnot mean the church should be confused.
So to those who strugglewith this whole thing,
our role is to love
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and disciple them to Jesus really well.
Our role is not to debate, is not to
post, is not to shame, is not to boycott,
is not to demean, is not to roll eyes.
Our role is to speak the truth in love
and disciple people.
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Back to biblical malenessand biblical femaleness,
and the biblical role of marriagebetween a man and a woman.
And so, ladies,
what your role in the church,what's the Bible have to say?
Listen, in the Old Testamentand New Testament, both women
have had promiseand at roles as leaders, as prophets,
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as, as disciples, as evangelists,
as worship leaders, as deacons, deaconess,
as as prayer warriors outside the church.
There's no difference what presidents.
We had our first female presidentslast year with Joe Biden.
There.
Like, there's no there's I gotta lightenthe mood every once in a while.
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I gotta throw something out there.Whether you agree or not.
You just got gotta chuckle a little bit.
Like, there's CEOs.
Like, there's no difference in the church.
All this stuff.
Prophets, women, prophets, leaders,
military, civilly, disciples, evangelists.
Virtually everything.
The only prohibition,the only parameter I think back to this
if you understand scripture,but think back to the synagogue system.
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The synagogue system was after the
the captivity where the nation of Israelwas taking the captive to Babylon.
They didn't have the templeto worship at anymore.
And so they establishedall these synagogues all over Babylon.
And there were basically neighborhood
little churcheswhere they would gather together.
And a teacher, the synagogue teacherwould teach a doctrine in a foreign land.
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So they continue walkingaccording to the order of God.
When they came back from captive City,
that synagogue systemspread all over the Promised Land.
And though biblically Old Testamentand new children,
you have women as prophets and leadersand worship leaders
and deaconsand serving in all these leadership roles.
The one place in all of Scripture,Old Testament and New Testament
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where you never see biblicallya woman leading is in the synagogue
because that's where doctrine was taught.
So we got to be careful about makingbroad scope while they did this.
So they can do this.
We got to be careful.
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But here's here's what I want to say here.
Ladies, please understand
don't miss the abundance
of God for your role as leaders
due to God's one restriction.
That was Eve's sin.
She missed the abundance of God.
Eat from any tree
because she got caught upwith one restriction.
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Just not this one.
Don't follow in those footsteps.
Now, let me say this
though.
That was Eve's issue.
The Bible holdsAdam accountable for the sin of the world.
The sin of the rule is not becauseof Eve's deception.
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The sin of the worldis because man's transgression.
E Adam was at fault,
not because he believed bad doctrine,but because he was passive.
Eve knew God's rule.
Eve knew God's law.
Either God told her or Adam told her.
She knew this is what God has said.
But Adam neglected his wifeand let her face
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the devil without protectionand without his covering.
And he's held responsible.
We have to understand
this, that ignoringGod design does not liberate the church.
It fractures. It.
This is the same in marriage.
It's the same in our families.
Ignoring God's design for marriageisn't liberate people.
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It fractures them.
Ignoring God's design for for for familydoesn't liberate people.
It fractures them.
This is what send us.
So the flip side.
Would a women get a do
a lot
because you're gifted
and you're created to do so
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and you're skilled at itand they're called.
I know one church that doesn't allow womento teach anybody above fifth grade.
It's a big church.
I won't name namesbecause you probably know it
well.
I will say this.
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I think we're pretty biblical
in the opportunitywomen have in in ministry.
Don't miss the abundance
for one restriction.
In our staff meetings
every Tuesday morning, we get together.
And right now there's three men who,me and three women who meet all together.
And we take turns.
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And the ladies in our meetings lead us
in the devotions of God's Word and whatthey're learning and what the word says.
We sat under something Heather broughta couple weeks ago from Ephesians,
and it was beautiful and it was from God.
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This last week, Ali just joined us.
She just graduated from Fresno State.
Good job Ali.
Ali led us and said, here'swhat I'm learning from God's Word.
Here's what it means to me.
Here's what it means for us.
And guess what? We did?
We listen to paid attention to our word.
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We're drawn into God's presence
and instruction for how we live.
I think we do a pretty good job.
Women, you want to lead, please.
One of you become the prayer warriorfor this church.
Take over the first Tuesdayprayer ministry.
Guess who leads that?
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You want to lead?
Step up and lead, ladies,
please. You want to lead?
We have a we have awe have a woman worship leader.
Her name is Ali.
That's what she does.She leads in worship.
She's taking over the planning of it.
The orchestration of it.
She's our worship leader.
You want to lead? Lead?
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You want to lead lead, please.
Someone would want to. You lead.
Please be the baptismal coordinator.
We'll let you lead
to take over meeting with the people.
Accept Jesuswalking them through the steps of faith.
Make sure they're got a relationshipwith Jesus.
You show up at my house on a Saturdayafternoon and set everything up.
Get ready to go.
You know who does that?
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Please, ladies, lead.
Be a minister of the church.
That way.
You want to lead?
Ladies, take over the tech ministry.
Take over the over the audiovisual stuff.
Be the leader of that ministry.
Pastor, the people in that ministry.
You know, we're welcome to it.
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Anybody?
You want to lead?
Lead your huddles.
Teacher. Huddles.
Proclaim God's word.
Teacherhuddles. Go to those people you know.
Lead.
You want to lead.
Take over the visitation ministry.
There's the pastoral care.
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Be in charge of the pastoralcare of this church, ladies.
Go ahead.
Like, don't miss the abundance
for one restriction.
Listen.
God's designed is not up for provision.
It's up for joyful submission.
And so, even in this area,we rest under God's Word.
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We don't get to stand over it.
Let me just wrap this with.
I'm almost.
You know why God is determined.
The role of teaching doctrine in thechurch setting like this is for the man.
Let me tell you why.Let me tell you one reason.
Second Timothy 316 All Scripture is
breathed outby God and profitable for teaching.
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Okay, that's doctrine for reproof.
That word is rebuking,correcting, training, righteousness.
The Word of
God is profitable for teaching doctrinein the church, to rebuke
and to correct.
That's the purpose of teaching.
On Sunday morning.
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To rebuke and correct.
Have any of you ever been
in the lead position of a church
to lead from the lead position,those in your church
and your close friends in rebuking themand correcting them doctrinally?
If you have to do that?
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Do you know what it's liketo have to teach
and lead your very friends
in rebuking and correcting?
That's not fun.
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Have any of you has the lead?
Has it?
Have any of you had to out counselsomeone from your church?
Have you had to sit downwith someone face to face and say, look,
these are the lines that have been drawn,and I need to ask you
to worship somewhere else
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because all you'redoing here is creating division, distance.
Have you had to do that?
It's not fun.
Especially in a committee
like this where you still see himat the market and the diner
and on the ball fields,
when you share similar friends and kids,
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you don't share kids with them yet.
You're different, you know.
I know.
Think about your home.
Who should be the primary disciplinarian?
Not that moms don't. Please.
I got a lot of, like Asterix,not the moms. Don't.
Moms discipline a correct to the I.
My mama disciplined us,but I knew that daddy was coming home.
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So in the home,the primary disciplinarian is
that moms more naturally nurturers
and planning the fun gendersfor the family.
Dads have the role of rebuking andcorrecting and training and righteousness.
And it's that way in the church
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preaching for the context of nonbelievers.
Evangelism. Good news.
Beauty. Grace. Redemption.
Inviting to be part of the family.
Loving love of God for the way we're kids.
The great Commission preaching.Everybody do it.
How about it? Please?
But teaching doctrinethat rebukes and corrects
God's order.
It's been designed
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for a man.
I'm not even going to talk about verse 15.
The women childbirth thing saving.
I'm going to save that for next week.I've covered enough.
I'll save that one for next week.
But but here's, here'slet me trap up with this.
Please understand.
Order isn't oppression.
It's orchestration.
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Okay?
God's order is not oppressionfor anybody, it's orchestration.
And as we understand the order and submit
to the order, it'san orchestra of beautiful music.
Men and women, equal worth.
Ordered to work.
You understand?
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Equal worth.
Just ordered work.
And please, over all things.
God's design is not a prison.
It's an ordered platformfor our protection.
God's
design for your marriage is not a prison.
It's an ordered platformfor your protection.
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God'sdesign for the family is not a prison.
It's an ordered platformfor your protection.
God's design for your finances.
This is not a prison.
It's an ordered platformfor your protection.
God's designed for the church.
And the leadership of the churchis not a prison.
It's an order platform for protection.
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Can stand.
Listen, I love you.
And I'm so thankfulthat God has allowed me
to get to teach in this venue for us.
Doctrine of the Scripture.
And it's good.
And it's for our protection.
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I appreciate you and I love you.
And God's Word is good.
Let's pray.
Father, thank you.
Thank youthat you've given us the opportunity
to submit to you.
Thank you that you have called us.
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Into a divine order.
That is a beautiful orchestration
of your image to the world.
Forgive us for the timeswhen we focused on
the oneand missed the abundance of it all.
Forgive us for the times where
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we thought we had the authorityto stand over your word,
rather than just arrest under it.
And, father,
there are people here who for whomthis issue really isn't an issue for them.
Like whatever. We're talking about itbecause it's in the Bible.
But there's other stuffthat they're pushing against your design.
And father, I
pray over all of us, whateverthat issue is, that we would submit
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to your design, understandingthat it's for our protection.
It's not a prison
that you haven't given us these commands
in these parameters to hand tie us in hardtimes.
You've given it to us for our protectionand in submission to your word.
And ordering is great Liberationand freedom.
Father, I pray that us men and women, male
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and female, would both understand that
you are so good.
Enable us to rest under your word.
We love you, Jesus.
Thank you that though the culture'sconfused, this church doesn't have to be.
Thank you for your mercythat you've given us.
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Thank you for your grace.
Father, I thank you for your mercyand grace over me.
Above all.
You're so merciful to me, father.
Thank you.
Thank you for your gracethat you bestowed over me.
We love you, Jesus.
Help us love you more.
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In your name I pray. Amen.
I appreciate you being here this morning.
We're going
book by book, chapter
by chapter, verse by verse,through God's word.
And I want to,
communicate the big idea for this morning.
I just want you to maybe write this downor remember it.
That,
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that God's ordering is not oppression.
It's orchestration.
I want to remember that God's
ordering is not oppression.
It's orchestration.
It's important for us to remember thatas we go through, especially chapter two,
the point of Paul's writing
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in first and second Timothy and Titus
is to guard
doctrine and guide people into it.
And so this morning,as we do every morning,
my aim and goal is to teach doctrine,to guard it
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and to guide our church into it.
Teaching doctrine is very important.
Because if one
adds to the Bible, that's legalism.
If one subtracts from the Bible,that's liberalism.
And if one ignores portions of the Biblethat leads to heresy,
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because you just fill in the blanksof what's been ignored.
And so chapter one was through Paul.
God's word to the church.
And two of the important things that Paul
says, that the church's role is,
is grace
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and doctrine.
He says, I'mthe chief, first of all, sinners.
And God'sgrace overflowed, overwhelmed me.
Grace is supposed to be partof the church and doctrine.
He says, guard doctrine.
Don't let bad doctrine be taught.
Teach good doctrine.
And in chapter two,he changes a little bit and starts
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talking to the Christian ratherthan the church and to the Christian.
He says there's a couple things that aresuper important for the Christ follower,
and it's prayer
and what living
a life of devotion looks like.
And that's what we're going to look at inchapter two.
The reason Paul wrote what he wrote.
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He tells uswhy in first Timothy chapter three, verses
15, 14 and 15he says, I hope to come to you soon.
Timothy was in Ephesus.
Paul started a church there.
Left Timothy in charge to lead it.
Young man Paul, in his early 30s.
And he said, I hope to come to you soon,but I'm writing these things to you
so that here's the reason.
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If I delay,you may know how one ought to behave
in the household of God,which is the church of the living God.
A pillar, a buttress of truth.
He says,I want to be there with you, Timothy, but
in case I can't, I want you to understand
how the people in the churchare to live according to sound doctrine.
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So? So
this is the letter written to peoplein the church about how they live,
what they do, how they orchestrate lifewithin the church.
And so it's important
to look at this, at that, this through,through those eyes.
Chapter one doctrine is important because
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if we're not solid on doctrine,
we'll settle for whattickles our ears or satisfies our peers.
Like, if we're not solid onbiblical doctrine, we'll end up being
what sounds good to me.
I don't know, everyone else thinks so too.
So why not go with it?
That's a really dangerous place to live.
And because doctrine is important.
I've written a little book calledThe Essentials of Christian Doctrine.
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It's in the Welcome center.You're welcome to pick one up.
It's free for you.
I want you to to be aware of some realbasics of Christian theology and doctrine.
So we're clear on it.
Because what I know,and you know this, too.
What did Jesus come to believe directlyshapes how that Jesus community will live?
What you and I believe will shapehow we live,
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what the church believes to shapeshow the church lives functions.
And so we have to be clear on doctrine.
Chapter two is one of the
most contested passages in Scripturein the New Testament, at least.
And so my goal in going through thisthis morning is to rightly divide
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the Word of Godso that we understand God's
standard of it and invite us
to live according to the doctrine
that is taught in God's Word.
Remember last week I said
that we rest under Scripture.
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We don't stand over it.
And so my goal and my jobevery Sunday is to teach doctrine
and invite us to rest under it
and not assume we have the authority
to stand over it.
And that'swhat we're going to do this morning.
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In order to do this.
You follow along,Tom, in order to do this.
I need to set it up with Genesisback at the very beginning.
The way things started has a
determining factor in how we understandthe way things should be.
And so before we get into firstTimothy two,
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I want to set up back in Genesis
and God's design.
God designed maleness and femaleness.
And those things are to take primary shape
in the context of a marriage and a family.
Now our culture is very differentfrom God's design,
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and that's why doctrine is important,
because we need to be clear on doctrine,
because the cultureis going to get this very confused.
And we know that confusion in the culture
should not cause confusion in the church.
Right?
And the only way the confused culturedoesn't
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cause confusion in the churchis to be solid on doctrine.
So role of the church,because our standard is not the culture.
Our standard is God's word.
Now to set this up going way back
when a boy grows up in a home.
God's design.
No culture screwed this up, no doubt,
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but God's design is that boy
lives under the submit to the leadershipinto the authority of his father.
That's God's design.
When that boy grows up and marries,he leaves his father and mother.
In Scripture and establish his own family
and becomes the leader of that family.
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When a little girl grows up in the home,
she's to submit to the leadershipand authority of her father,
and when she gets married, she transfers
that to her husband.
May be clear
this is not about women
simply obeying someonebecause they're a male.
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This has nothing to dowith a woman's role, and the culture
has nothing to do with the women's roleoutside of the home or outside the church.
This has to do with the role of the homeand family, marriage and the church.
It's not about the woman saying, becauseyou are male, I will gladly bow to you.
It's not about that at all.
It's about God's designfor the leadership of the family,
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not about a strict obedience.
Because someone's a maleand someone's a female.
You understand that? It's about design.
Original designfor leadership of the family.
Submission has been gravely misunderstood
because we've not understoodthe context of it,
stemming from the Genesis account.
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In the Genesis account, when Adam and Evewere in the garden pre sin.
The devil shows up on the sceneof the human scene
and tempts Eve with bad doctrine.
That was the temptation.
The bad doctrine that the devil temptedEve with was to question God's provision,
his standard, his love, and his design,
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and beginning with Eve, forces
that choice on all humans to doubt
good doctrine and believe bad doctrineabout God's love.
His standard, his design, his provision
from Genesis three on due to sin.
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God'sdesign has been continually distorted,
and it's led to consequences for menand for women
due to sinand the distortion of God's design.
The consequencesfor men have been twofold.
Either one
passive leadership,
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both in the familyand in the spiritual realm.
We've we've just become passive
as far as family leadership
and child rearing and discipline
and passive spiritual leadership.
Looks like women do everything or.
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In the in the
in this this this role of mennot passivity but rather
domineering, demanding and abusive.
And so that's the consequences
that men have to be very careful ofbecause of sin.
Now the consequences for womenare a little different.
Bothered by this idea
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of submission to the authority over them.
The tendency is to tend toward
complete self-sufficiency and autonomy.
Now, let me just clarify.
I got to do a lot of clarifying today.
There is nothing wrongand nothing bad with a strong,
independent,intelligent leader as a woman.
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I married one.
Now nothing wrong with that.
Ladies, please understand.
The danger iswhen the seeking of independence
means submitting to no one.
That's the danger.
And so.
The gospel comes in and sets things right.
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Everything in Scripture points to Jesus.
When we go through the Old Testamentright now.
We went through the book of Genesis,going through the book
Access on Wednesday night.
We see Jesus all over the Old Testament
because the Old Testament points towardsJesus.
The Gospels are about Jesus.
The rest of the New Testament pointsback to Jesus.
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So it's all about Jesus.
And so
this submission thingcenters and originates in Jesus.
Jesus, though equal with the father,submitted to the father
not because there was an issueof lesser value,
but just simply because of honoringGod's order.
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You understand Jesus fully.
God submitted to the father not becausethere was a difference in value,
but because therewas an honoring of order.
And so
when we submit because
we don't stand over Scripture,we rest under it.
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When we submit, what we're doingis presenting
a picture of Jesus to the world.
You understand?
So obediencesubmission is not about obedience.
It's about order and presenting the order
of God to the world that's watching.
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So that when Paul says in Ephesians two,families,
wives, submit to your husbandsas to Christ.
I know the pushback that some women have.
Well, I would, if I had a husbandwere submitting to this
right now.
Remember, we won't say thatin this company, but that right.
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And that's why Paul says, submit notto your husband because he's worthy of it.
Submit as to Christ,because Christ is worthy of it.
Because you become a
picture of Christ to the world.
This is why doctrine is important.
Chapter one
directionsto the church Biblical doctrine and Grace.
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Chapter twothe devotion of the Christian Prayer
and ordering.
Let me just read verses one through six
will unpack some stuff.
Chapter two, verse one.
First of all,then I urge that supplications, prayers,
intercessions, and thanksgiving be made,
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for all people, for kingsand all who are on high positions
that we may lead a peaceful and quietlife, godly and dignified in every way.
This is good, and it is pleasingin the sight of God our Savior,
who desires all people to be savedand to come to the knowledge of the truth.
For there is one God, and there is onemediator between God and men,
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the manChrist Jesus, who gave himself as a ransom
for all, which is the testimonygiven at the proper time.
Paul says, for the devoted Christianin the context of the church,
the first thing of first importanceis that I urge you
to pray supplications and prayers,
to pray, intercessions and thanksgiving.
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He says, I want you to be a churchand a devoted
people of Jesus that prayswhen he says the word.
Intercessions, that means a communicationwith intimate language,
as if you're talking to your closestfriend.
It's familiar.
So I want you to pray as thoughyou're talking to your closest friend.
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This intimate setting.
It's not some high holy, reserved,
you know, mantra.
It's this intercession, this intimacy,
this closeness and thanksgiving.
One should never praywithout giving thanks.
To pray without givingthanks teeters on this idea
that the one you're talking tois a resource, not a relationship.
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Thanksgiving makes it a relationship.
And so he says, I want youto pray this way for all people.
And then he specifies for kings and allwho are in high positions, presidents,
senators aswhat are you talking about, Congressman?
Governors,
people in high positions.
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He said, I want you to pray for them.
Intercede for them.
Give thanks for them,
It's so interesting to me
that the one who wrote thisis saying to pray for all these people.
And the ruler at the time was Caesar Nero,
the one who was one of the most violent,
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abusive, repulsive emperors
in all of Rome against the church,the one who would behead Paul.
Paul is saying,Plead to God on his behalf.
Not that God removes him,but that he is blessed with wisdom,
that that he makes wise decisions,that he comes to faith
and pray that their decisionsallow us, as Paul says, to lead peaceful,
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quiet lives, godlylives, dignified in every way.
Listen, I want our leaders.
I want the best things for them
because as things go well for them,they usually go well for us.
It's so interesting to me how
the church navigatedthe past few presidencies,
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because the church has not done a good job
on seeking intercession for Joe Biden.
When he was at office,
we saw intercession,most of us, for him to leave.
But but not
not for wisdom, not for discernment.
Not because we cared about him.
Same thing with Trump. It'sso interesting.
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These last couple election cycles,
the church has justbecome more divided than ever
because we focused
on the man in the officerather than the kingdom of God.
He says,I want you to be praying for these people
and honestly be praying for them.
One Because God desiresall people to be saved
and to come to a knowledge of the truth,because there's one God and one mediator,
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the manJesus Christ. This is the point of it all
for their salvation,
because their salvation is for your good.
I could spend a lot more time talking.
I'm not going tobecause there's a lot in here.
We got to get through them.Let me go to verse.
Where am I verse seven.
Now look what he says.
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Verse seven,
for thisI was appointed a preacher and an apostle.
I'm telling the truth. I'm not lying.
A teacher of the Gentilesin faith and truth.
These are important wordsto pay attention to,
because some of these words are goingto come up later in his instructions
to the churchand to the disciples of the church.
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He said, God has appointed meto be a preacher and a teacher.
Here's what we have to understand.
Those two words are different.
Most of the time in our context.
Those are synonymous.
We just think every preacher is a teacher,every teacher in the church, a preacher.
And are you a preacher, teacheror whatever? Doesn't matter.
Paul uses two very different wordsto talk about what it is to be a preacher,
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what is to be a teacher.
And when he says, Godhas appointed me as a teacher.
The Greek word is crux,and it literally means ambassador.
It means a herald of God's truth,of salvation
to proclaim salvation to the unsaved.
And it's what we do in Matthew 28.
Proclaim to all the world.
That's what it is to preach.
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Preaching is the the workthat's done to the unsaved
of the proclamation of salvationthrough Christ alone.
That's what preaching is.
And then he says, I am also a teacher.
Teach us a completely different word.
The word Paul uses a dinosaur. Go.
And it literally means doctrine.
And so a teacher teaches
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the saved the doctrine of God.
Biblical doctrine to the saved,not to the unsaved.
Preaching to the unsavedabout the proclamation of salvation.
The good news teachingis doctrine to the saved.
So they'll be firm on good doctrine,because what they believe about
doctrine will determine how they live.
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In acts 242.
The Bible says of the first churchthat the the disciples gave themselves,
it says, literally gave themselvesto the apostles doctrine.
It's the same word if teach us teaching.
So teaching and doctrineare the exact same word.
And so the church's role, the pastor'srole is to teach doctrine to the church.
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Every Christ followers
role is to preach the gospel to the world.
And Paul says,I have been charged with both
some people have been gifted in preachingand not teaching.
Some have been gifted in teachingand not preaching.
Some few are gifted in both
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preaching the gospel of good newsto salvation to the unsaved
and preaching deep, profoundbiblical doctrine
to the saved.
And that was Paul.
And so Paul starts
to instruct men, instruct the church.
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And let's just look at what he says.
I desire this is verse eight.
I desire that in every placethe men should pray,
lifting holy handswithout anger or quarreling.
And so after he says, this is who I am.
These are my roles.
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Then he starts to direct the disciples,
man disciples and women disciples.
And because of God's ordering,
that goes back to Genesis one
when he asked to direct men and women.
Guess who he starts with?
Men. So I'm going to start with you.
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And this way says to men.
That in every place men should pray,
lifting holy handswithout anger or quarreling.
Let me just untie this a little bit.
There's three things here.
He says I want men to lift up holy hands,
to lift up holy hands and pray
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to lift up holy hands.
I know what most people are thinking.
Well, this is he'snot really talking about doing this,
although that's what he said.
He's really just talkingabout the attitude of the heart.
And the reason we say that is because mostmen are so uncomfortable with this.
And so we explain it away.
And there's part of usthat love to stand over Scripture
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rather than rest under it.
Now, doesit mean the attitude of your heart 100%?
It means I'm going to lift upHoly in absolute.
My heart is lifted up before got 100%,
but the outward
expression is always a reflectionof the inward heart.
You know it is
all through Scripture.
The Scripture gives us examplesof how people prayed
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people.
They stood and they looked up to heaven,and they lifted their hand
because their expectationwas coming from there.
This was this was a position of prayer
all through Scripture,as was this, the position of prayer.
I'm going to kneel before God.
And and this is mythis is my way of surrender.
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If you take a knee, I'm going to restbefore you.
As was lame prostrate.
I don't know if the cameraand get me from here.
But I'm gonna lay prostrate,face down. Why?
Because what happens when it slows down?
What do you do? I surrender, I'm not
right.
And it's.
This is the way, God,I am laid out before you.
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I'm completely certainthe only thing that isn't taught in
Scripture how to pray is this.
Nowhere in Scriptureis anyone seen sitting
and praying, closing their eyesand folding their hands.
Now I understand why we teach thisto our children.
Because they're squirrels.
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But hopefully at this point in our lives,
we're not children anymore.
And that this is how we pray.
And so, Paul, through the inspiration
of the Holy Spirit from God, says, man,
you have to take the leadership
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in worship and the expressions of worship
because your familieswill follow your lead.
You have to take the leadin expressive worship,
and he doesn't mandatewhat it has to look like, but it has to.
You gotta see, it's got to be apparent.
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And so he says, lift up
the understand.
Like, get out of yourself.
Quit being so self-conscious and insecureand make it about him and not about you.
But Paul saying, lift up holy hands.
And by holy hands he's saying,listen, men, your lies have got to be lies
that are godly and humble
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and sacrificial and servant like,
not domineering and demanding
and dominating.
Most of the time when women push back
against the authority of their husbandor someone in their life, it's
because they haven't seen menwith holy hands.
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I've seen plenty of mentry to be domineering,
but not men with holy hands.
And again,when he doesn't have holy hands,
where to submit as to
Christ,
because he does have holy hands.
And then he says, lift up holy hands.
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Pray men,
men must take the lead spiritually.
That is our job as a husband.
We are the priest of our family.
There's too many men
that have relegatedtheir lives to passivity, both in child
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rearing and childdisciplining and child correcting,
and in spirituality.
There's too many women that relegatedthat.
I would love for a month
for the womento stop leading in this church.
Just stop teaching Sunday school.
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Stop the refreshment thing.
Stop the worship leading.
You know, I, I would love to see
what would happen.
When you'd like to see what would happen.
Yeah.All the women's heads are doing this.
The guy's like, no, like,why would you suggest that?
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That's heresy.
Maybe men
don't lead because women do it all.
And so, ladies,you have my permission to stop.
Let's see how the church does.
Men lead
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with a holy life and lead in worship.
I said last week that abdication
is never part of God's plan.
Man, you hear me?
Yeah.
Who said yes? That was good.
Thank thank you.
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Billy.
So let's get to the tough stuff.
Verse nine.
Likewisealso that women should adorn themselves
in respectable apparelwith modesty and self-control,
not with braided hair and gold or pearlsor costly attire,
but with what is proper for womenwho profess godliness with good works.
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Do you know many pastorsthat preach on the Sunday morning
about first Timothy two?
Yeah.
Cowards is what they are.
Here, here, here, here.
Here's here's what, here's what, here'swhat Paul saying ladies, this is
the point is make it your clothes shouldcommunicate your conversion.
That's what he's saying.
Just make sure you're close.
Communicate your conversion.
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Parents,please teach this to your children.
So, junior high, high school,college kids.
You know exactly what I'm talking about.
The problem in this culture,and it's the same in our culture,
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is that saved people outwardlylooked exactly
like unsaved people.
Dressed just as provocatively.
Just as scantily.
And Paul saying, make sure that that
what everybody seescommunicate your conversion.
When he says womendressed with respectable apparel
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what is that's we get our word cosmeticsfrom that Greek word.
So he's not saying don't makeup,don't do your hair.
No jewelry.
Wear a bonnet skirt down to your knees.
Like, just become Amish and you're okay.
That's not what he's saying.
He's just saying, do what you gotta do.
But just make sure that what you do
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communicates that you've been convertedfrom the culture.
Make sure that your outward
appearance shows your inward conversion.
In other words,spend more time on your soul than you do
in the mirror.
And I'm
so thankful for the women of Flip Side,
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because some of you might hear me thoughI'm saying this with John.
I got him.
This is such a dangerous messagefor me to preach.
Some of you women have been walkingwith Jesus for generations,
and you look like women who have walkingwith Jesus for generations.
You present yourself
with modestyand appropriateness and dignity
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and strength and honor.
And it's not all about me.
Look at me. Look at me.
And it's not because you're old.
It's because you're faithful.
And many women don't get this right.
So thank you.
You're a great example for those coming up
after you.
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This is so difficult in our culturethat celebrates, idolize
and venerates the externaland that curses and a voice
and denying the aging.
Ladies, thank you for doing it so well.
Men, we have great responsibility
in this with the women in our lives,
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and we will either help them do thisor hinder them from this.
By how we look at women,by how we respond to women,
and how we respond to our own wivesas they age.
It's very important.
And if that's not touch enough subject,let me get on to the rest of this.
And just remember thatbefore we get to this,
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we don't stand over it, right?
We rest under it.
We have to understand that
about Scriptureand that when we talk about following
Christ, it means we follow his ordering,not just his saving.
Most people want to be saved by Jesus.
They don't want to follow his ordering.
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And so we talk about followingJesus involves both.
Doctrine determines direction.
And so we're going to look at hisdirecting verses 11 through 15.
Let a woman learn quietlywith all submissiveness.
I do not fear. Why am I preaching on this?
I do not permit a womanto teach or exercise authority over man.
Rather, she is to remain quiet.
For Adam was formed first, then Eve.
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And Adam was not deceived, but the womanwas deceived and became a transgressor.
Yet she will be saved through childbearingif they continue in faith
and love and holiness and self-control.
Okay. You're ready? Yes.
We miss.
We miss what?
The first thing that Paul sayinghere, Paul is saying here.
Let her learn
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in that in the Roman culture,
most women were uneducatedand they had no hope of being educated.
One of the things Paul is sayingis let them learn.
Now remember the context is the church.
Let them learn.
The context is the church setting.
He said, let them learn at church,but let them process
and talk about it at homewith a man with holy hands.
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Do you see how these tie together?
The issue is the same issuewith the church in Corinth,
and the way the synagogues,
the synagogue is the closest thingwe have in the Bible to a local church.
And Imma talk about that later.
But just understand this for now.
The synagogue was designedso that men sat on one side
and women on the other,and sometimes women
were even behind a veillike they weren't even seen at church.
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And what would happen
when the teacher of the synagoguewas teaching doctrine to the people?
Women would have a questionbecause they didn't grow up
with the background of educationat the minute,
and they would start talkingduring the sermon.
Hey, what is he right about?
What about this?
And Paul's saying, look,just knock that off.
Doctrines got to be taughtand I want you to learn.
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But all these questions go to the dinerafterwards.
Your husband, who has holy hands, talkthat through with him.
Talk about it in your huddles. Process it.
Process it outside of here because it getstoo chaotic in here to do it.
He says, let them learn.
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It appears from verses11 and 12 that the teaching function.
I'm not talking about the preaching,
the communication of the gospelto the unsaved for salvation.
The teaching function in the churchis to be done.
Is a is a man's responsibility.
Hear me not do to worthnot doing a difference in worth.
Not because of difference in dignity,not because of a difference in value.
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We know from Scripture that men and women,
male and female, are made inGod's very image.
So this issue is not an issueof importance.
It's not an issue of intelligence.
It's not an issue of gifting.
It's not an issue of skill.
It's not an issue of godliness.
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It's simplyan issue of the expression of God's role
of the
it's God's expression
of how he's ordered it.
We are equal.
Would you agree?
Equal in value, men and women?
Would you agree?
Yes, we're equal, but we're not the same
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according to God's ordering.
When you look at this, it says,
I don't permit a woman to teach.
Remember the differencein those two words.
Preach and teach.
Paul knows what he's talking about.
He uses those words specifically in verseseven.
He uses this one specifically in 11 here.
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I don't permit a woman to teachor in verse 12.
He uses the same word like,I don't permit a woman
to doctrine.
Teaching in the context of the church
or to exercise authority.
When Paul uses that word,exercise authority.
Again, we have to know doctrine.
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It goes back to Genesis
because of sin.
The curse God said to the woman,you will now desire your.
You're a pain in childbirth,that your desire will be for your husband.
That's what he says after the fall.
That word desire doesn'tmean, oh, I want you.
It doesn't mean that.
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It means you will now,
because of sin, desire to have dominionand rule over your husband.
How do we know that?
Because you look at Genesis four seven
when God is talking to Cainbefore he kills his brother Abel.
God says to Cain,sin is crouching at your door
and desires you.
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Is sin desires to have dominion over you.
Sin desires to rule over you.
It's the exact same wordthat God uses of the woman
after before you will desire dominionto rule over him. Now,
a rejection of submission
that Jesus Himself gave us
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in submitting to the father.
You understand all this has to do
with a prefiguring of Christ
and the order of God.
Let me address just a couple.
I'm at the same point.
I was in the first service.
I got five minutes.
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Just buckle up.
And let me addressa couple common pushbacks
against this idea of womennot teaching in this setting.
Doctrine.
I've heard it said, well,when Paul used that word, shall not teach.
It's a present tense verb.
And so it meant something for themin the present tense.
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It's not meant to be applied after that.
Great idea. Wrong.
And here's the problem.
There's over 100 presenttense of verbs in first Timothy.
And if that were the casefor the teaching part,
it has to be the casefor every other present tense of verbs,
which would mean, therefore, that Goddoesn't desire people to be saved anymore.
That we should not pray anymore.
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That we shouldn't manage our householdswell anymore, and that we shouldn't desire
a good reputationbecause those are all present verb
that present tense verbs as well.
So if you're going to apply to one
that got applied to all, and certainlyGod still cares about people being saved,
about praying,
about marriage,our household, that good rotation, right?
So so that one doesn't count.
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I've heard people say,
well, the problem was auniquely Ephesian problem,
and it wasn't meant to be appliedto all churches everywhere.
Here's the problem with that.
Paul says the exact same thingto the church in Corinth,
which was on acompletely different continent.
And so it wasn't just an Ephesian problem.
This was a church issue.
It was an ordering issue.
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I've heard people say, well, it'sbecause there was a hyper feminized
culture in Ephesuswith the Temple of Diana or Artemus.
And the process,it was super hyper feminized.
And it's pushing back.
Paul is pushing backagainst the feminization of the culture.
I'm like, well,welcome to American current day.
But the problem with that idea, though,
is that there was a riot in Ephesus,
and it was the men who rioted,not the women.
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And the controlof the civility of the city
was under man's control,not woman's control.
And so everything about Ephesus, thoughthere was the temple of Diana,
everything revolved around.
It was the men who were in control,not women.
So it's not just a feminized issue.
I've heard
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people say, well, Paul prohibitedthe women teaching false doctrine,
but if they were educated and taught,good doctrine was okay.
Here's the problem.
Paul never details the teachingof good doctrine and bad doctrine
for the prohibition about womenteaching doctrine of the church.
He doesn't make that distinction.
And that's the dangerwhen we choose to stand over it,
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because it just fliesin the face of the current culture.
We start putting stuff in therethat isn't there.
I've heard people say
that when Paul uses this idea
of exercising authority over her husband.
She was teaching
without the husband giving her authority,but the husband gave her his authority.
Teach. Then it was okay. Here'sthe problem.
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Paul doesn't say anything about a husbandgiving his wife authority to do this.
It's reading something into itbecause we've chosen to stand over it.
You got to be very careful.
I've heardpeople say this about this issue.
Well, God's nonbinary, so it doesn'tmatter anymore about male female stuff.
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And I think, well, no,I understand what you're saying.
God isn't male nor female.
I would say you're right.
He's fully male. He's fully female.
We're created in his image,in the image of God.
He created them male and female.
What I know about God is Godwrote the genetic code
and God knows the words he's using.
And he chose to weren't.
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Use these words of maleand female on purpose.
I've heard people say, well, in Christthere's no male nor female.
You're right.
The problem with that argumentis that reference Naughton or June or
Gentile, male or female, that's inreference to salvation, not to order
as far as salvation makes no difference.
Male, female, Gentile,
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Jew slavery don't make a difference.
Salvation.But that's not what this is about.
This is about ordering.
I've heard people say this,this whole idea
about when female submissionis due to the sin of Adam and Eve.
Because in Romans it says,now there is therefore no condemnation.
Are you just pretty sureabout that, pastor? Well that's true.
The problem is this ordering of malefemale us goes
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back to pre-fall creation.
Not after fall creation.
This whole idea
that that presses in on God's ordering
is part of a feministscholarly agenda towards
what we call the egalitarian view
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of men and women,
of of leadership in the home.
And the egalitarian viewsays this we're equal and we're the same.
That's the egalitarian view.
That's different from what's calledthe complementary in view.
The complementary view saysthis we're equal, but we're different.
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We're equal in value, but we're different.
Egalitarian says no, we're equal in value.
And we're the exact same.
The problem is
that there's a continual movement in this.
That's the problem with progressivesis progressivism has no end.
There's no borders.
And so in this progressive movement,from the complementary
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in view of equal but different, moving to
egalitarian, equal and same.
The progressionnow is to same and indistinct.
And that's where we are in this culture.
Men and women,we're not only the same, we're indistinct.
And here's how it fleshes out.
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Now boys can play girls sports
because after all, we're indistinct.
Now there's no gender bathrooms.
You can go in whatever one you want.
Same thing with locker rooms,because we're in distinct.
Now we get to choose our gender
because we're
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in distinct.
Now, biological sex does not determinegender.
Now someone can be non-binary.
Someone can be gender fluid.
Someone gets to choose their pronouns
because the pendulum has gone from.
We're the same value, but we're different.
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To two, we're equal in the same.
Now we're the same and the distinct.
And the problem is, many people in churchhave gotten into this
because it's taught in schoolsas if it is truth to kids.
It's taught on the university campusesthat if you don't believe it,
you're just an ignoramus.
And it's bought by people in the churchbecause they've not
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been taught good doctrine.
And it's no wonder why this generation
is the most confused generationour world has ever seen.
And it'sno wonder that there is such a vast
mental health crisis.
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The Bible says we are equal men and women,
but we're not the same.
Not in the home, nor the church.
And this is what we have to understand.
Complementarity is not competition.
It's completion.
When Eve was made, God said of her,
I will make for Adam a completer.
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So complementary in ism or equal,we're not the same.
It's not competition, it's completion.
And this is how God has completedhis image in maleness and femaleness.
And so what about women'srole in the church?
What about what they did in the Bible?
Great question. Let's talk about this.
We don'thave in this country a gender problem.
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We have a doctrine problem.
God's not made a mistake.
He didn't misgender anybody.
He got the basics right.
We stand under Scripture.
We don't. We rest under Scripture.Don't stand over it.
Just because the culture is confused doesnot mean the church should be confused.
So to those who strugglewith this whole thing,
our role is to love
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and disciple them to Jesus really well.
Our role is not to debate, is not to
post, is not to shame, is not to boycott,
is not to demean, is not to roll eyes.
Our role is to speak the truth in love
and disciple people.
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Back to biblical malenessand biblical femaleness,
and the biblical role of marriagebetween a man and a woman.
And so, ladies,
what your role in the church,what's the Bible have to say?
Listen, in the Old Testamentand New Testament, both women
have had promiseand at roles as leaders, as prophets,
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as, as disciples, as evangelists,
as worship leaders, as deacons, deaconess,
as as prayer warriors outside the church.
There's no difference what presidents.
We had our first female presidentslast year with Joe Biden.
There.
Like, there's no there's I gotta lightenthe mood every once in a while.
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I gotta throw something out there.Whether you agree or not.
You just got gotta chuckle a little bit.
Like, there's CEOs.
Like, there's no difference in the church.
All this stuff.
Prophets, women, prophets, leaders,
military, civilly, disciples, evangelists.
Virtually everything.
The only prohibition,the only parameter I think back to this
if you understand scripture,but think back to the synagogue system.
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The synagogue system was after the
the captivity where the nation of Israelwas taking the captive to Babylon.
They didn't have the templeto worship at anymore.
And so they establishedall these synagogues all over Babylon.
And there were basically neighborhood
little churcheswhere they would gather together.
And a teacher, the synagogue teacherwould teach a doctrine in a foreign land.
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So they continue walkingaccording to the order of God.
When they came back from captive City,
that synagogue systemspread all over the Promised Land.
And though biblically Old Testamentand new children,
you have women as prophets and leadersand worship leaders
and deaconsand serving in all these leadership roles.
The one place in all of Scripture,Old Testament and New Testament
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where you never see biblicallya woman leading is in the synagogue
because that's where doctrine was taught.
So we got to be careful about makingbroad scope while they did this.
So they can do this.
We got to be careful.
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But here's here's what I want to say here.
Ladies, please understand
don't miss the abundance
of God for your role as leaders
due to God's one restriction.
That was Eve's sin.
She missed the abundance of God.
Eat from any tree
because she got caught upwith one restriction.
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Just not this one.
Don't follow in those footsteps.
Now, let me say this
though.
That was Eve's issue.
The Bible holdsAdam accountable for the sin of the world.
The sin of the rule is not becauseof Eve's deception.
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The sin of the worldis because man's transgression.
E Adam was at fault,
not because he believed bad doctrine,but because he was passive.
Eve knew God's rule.
Eve knew God's law.
Either God told her or Adam told her.
She knew this is what God has said.
But Adam neglected his wifeand let her face
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the devil without protectionand without his covering.
And he's held responsible.
We have to understand
this, that ignoringGod design does not liberate the church.
It fractures. It.
This is the same in marriage.
It's the same in our families.
Ignoring God's design for marriageisn't liberate people.
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It fractures them.
Ignoring God's design for for for familydoesn't liberate people.
It fractures them.
This is what send us.
So the flip side.
Would a women get a do
a lot
because you're gifted
and you're created to do so
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and you're skilled at itand they're called.
I know one church that doesn't allow womento teach anybody above fifth grade.
It's a big church.
I won't name namesbecause you probably know it
well.
I will say this.
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I think we're pretty biblical
in the opportunitywomen have in in ministry.
Don't miss the abundance
for one restriction.
In our staff meetings
every Tuesday morning, we get together.
And right now there's three men who,me and three women who meet all together.
And we take turns.
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And the ladies in our meetings lead us
in the devotions of God's Word and whatthey're learning and what the word says.
We sat under something Heather broughta couple weeks ago from Ephesians,
and it was beautiful and it was from God.
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This last week, Ali just joined us.
She just graduated from Fresno State.
Good job Ali.
Ali led us and said, here'swhat I'm learning from God's Word.
Here's what it means to me.
Here's what it means for us.
And guess what? We did?
We listen to paid attention to our word.
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We're drawn into God's presence
and instruction for how we live.
I think we do a pretty good job.
Women, you want to lead, please.
One of you become the prayer warriorfor this church.
Take over the first Tuesdayprayer ministry.
Guess who leads that?
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You want to lead?
Step up and lead, ladies,
please. You want to lead?
We have a we have awe have a woman worship leader.
Her name is Ali.
That's what she does.She leads in worship.
She's taking over the planning of it.
The orchestration of it.
She's our worship leader.
You want to lead? Lead?
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You want to lead lead, please.
Someone would want to. You lead.
Please be the baptismal coordinator.
We'll let you lead
to take over meeting with the people.
Accept Jesuswalking them through the steps of faith.
Make sure they're got a relationshipwith Jesus.
You show up at my house on a Saturdayafternoon and set everything up.
Get ready to go.
You know who does that?
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Please, ladies, lead.
Be a minister of the church.
That way.
You want to lead?
Ladies, take over the tech ministry.
Take over the over the audiovisual stuff.
Be the leader of that ministry.
Pastor, the people in that ministry.
You know, we're welcome to it.
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Anybody?
You want to lead?
Lead your huddles.
Teacher. Huddles.
Proclaim God's word.
Teacherhuddles. Go to those people you know.
Lead.
You want to lead.
Take over the visitation ministry.
There's the pastoral care.
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Be in charge of the pastoralcare of this church, ladies.
Go ahead.
Like, don't miss the abundance
for one restriction.
Listen.
God's designed is not up for provision.
It's up for joyful submission.
And so, even in this area,we rest under God's Word.
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We don't get to stand over it.
Let me just wrap this with.
I'm almost.
You know why God is determined.
The role of teaching doctrine in thechurch setting like this is for the man.
Let me tell you why.Let me tell you one reason.
Second Timothy 316 All Scripture is
breathed outby God and profitable for teaching.
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Okay, that's doctrine for reproof.
That word is rebuking,correcting, training, righteousness.
The Word of
God is profitable for teaching doctrinein the church, to rebuke
and to correct.
That's the purpose of teaching.
On Sunday morning.
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To rebuke and correct.
Have any of you ever been
in the lead position of a church
to lead from the lead position,those in your church
and your close friends in rebuking themand correcting them doctrinally?
If you have to do that?
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Do you know what it's liketo have to teach
and lead your very friends
in rebuking and correcting?
That's not fun.
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Have any of you has the lead?
Has it?
Have any of you had to out counselsomeone from your church?
Have you had to sit downwith someone face to face and say, look,
these are the lines that have been drawn,and I need to ask you
to worship somewhere else
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because all you'redoing here is creating division, distance.
Have you had to do that?
It's not fun.
Especially in a committee
like this where you still see himat the market and the diner
and on the ball fields,
when you share similar friends and kids,
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you don't share kids with them yet.
You're different, you know.
I know.
Think about your home.
Who should be the primary disciplinarian?
Not that moms don't. Please.
I got a lot of, like Asterix,not the moms. Don't.
Moms discipline a correct to the I.
My mama disciplined us,but I knew that daddy was coming home.
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So in the home,the primary disciplinarian is
that moms more naturally nurturers
and planning the fun gendersfor the family.
Dads have the role of rebuking andcorrecting and training and righteousness.
And it's that way in the church
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preaching for the context of nonbelievers.
Evangelism. Good news.
Beauty. Grace. Redemption.
Inviting to be part of the family.
Loving love of God for the way we're kids.
The great Commission preaching.Everybody do it.
How about it? Please?
But teaching doctrinethat rebukes and corrects
God's order.
It's been designed
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for a man.
I'm not even going to talk about verse 15.
The women childbirth thing saving.
I'm going to save that for next week.I've covered enough.
I'll save that one for next week.
But but here's, here'slet me trap up with this.
Please understand.
Order isn't oppression.
It's orchestration.
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Okay?
God's order is not oppressionfor anybody, it's orchestration.
And as we understand the order and submit
to the order, it'san orchestra of beautiful music.
Men and women, equal worth.
Ordered to work.
You understand?
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Equal worth.
Just ordered work.
And please, over all things.
God's design is not a prison.
It's an ordered platformfor our protection.
God's
design for your marriage is not a prison.
It's an ordered platformfor your protection.
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God'sdesign for the family is not a prison.
It's an ordered platformfor your protection.
God's design for your finances.
This is not a prison.
It's an ordered platformfor your protection.
God's designed for the church.
And the leadership of the churchis not a prison.
It's an order platform for protection.
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Can stand.
Listen, I love you.
And I'm so thankfulthat God has allowed me
to get to teach in this venue for us.
Doctrine of the Scripture.
And it's good.
And it's for our protection.
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I appreciate you and I love you.
And God's Word is good.
Let's pray.
Father, thank you.
Thank youthat you've given us the opportunity
to submit to you.
Thank you that you have called us.
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Into a divine order.
That is a beautiful orchestration
of your image to the world.
Forgive us for the timeswhen we focused on
the oneand missed the abundance of it all.
Forgive us for the times where
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we thought we had the authorityto stand over your word,
rather than just arrest under it.
And, father,
there are people here who for whomthis issue really isn't an issue for them.
Like whatever. We're talking about itbecause it's in the Bible.
But there's other stuffthat they're pushing against your design.
And father, I
pray over all of us, whateverthat issue is, that we would submit
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to your design, understandingthat it's for our protection.
It's not a prison
that you haven't given us these commands
in these parameters to hand tie us in hardtimes.
You've given it to us for our protectionand in submission to your word.
And ordering is great Liberationand freedom.
Father, I pray that us men and women, male
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and female, would both understand that
you are so good.
Enable us to rest under your word.
We love you, Jesus.
Thank you that though the culture'sconfused, this church doesn't have to be.
Thank you for your mercythat you've given us.
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Thank you for your grace.
Father, I thank you for your mercyand grace over me.
Above all.
You're so merciful to me, father.
Thank you.
Thank you for your gracethat you bestowed over me.
We love you, Jesus.
Help us love you more.
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In your name I pray. Amen.
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